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CREATION SCIENCE EVANGELISM


Seminar Part 1b: La edad de la tierra
Session 2 of 14. A Creation Seminar by Dr. Kent Hovind c/o 29 Cummings Road Pensacola, FL[32503] 850-479-3466 www.drdino.com E-mail: dino@drdino.com

Toda escritura es dada por inspiracin de Dios, y es til para doctrina, para redargir, para corregir, para instruccin en justicia,
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Timothy 3:16

2 Timteo 3:16

Kent & Jo July 14, 1973

La Familia Hovind Junio 2004

En el principio cre Dios los cielos y la tierra


In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth Genesis 1:1

Gnesis 1:1

Y T, Seor, en el principio fundaste la tierra; y los cielos son obras de tus manos:
Hebreos 1:10
And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

Hebrews 1:10

Cuntos Aos?

When was the beginning?

Cundo fue el principio?

Porque por l [Jess] fueron creadas todas las cosas que hay in los cielos, y que hay en la tierra...todo fue creado por l, y para l.
Colosenses 1:16
For by him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earthall things were created by him, and for him:

Colossians 1:16

Y l respondiendo, les dijo: No habis ledo que el que los hizo al principio, macho y hembra los hizo...? Mateo 19:4
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, Matthew 19:4

Pero desde el principio de la creacin, macho y hembra los hizo Dios.


But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

Marcos 10:6

Por tanto, as como el pecado entr en el mundo por un hombre, y por el pecado la muerte y la muerte as pas a todos los hombres por cuanto todos pecaron.
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Romanos 5:12

Porque por cuanto la muerte vino por un hombre, tambin por un hombre vino la resurreccin de los muertos. Porque a la manera que en Adam todos mueren, as tambin todos en Cristo sern vivificados.
For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
El Pecado de Adan tambin afect los animales y las plantas. Vea: Gen. Gen. 3:17-19 (maldito es
Adams sin also affected plants and animals See: Gen. 3:17-19 (Cursed is the ground-thorns, etc.) Rom. 8:18-22

la tierra). Rom. 8:18-22

1 Corinthians 15:21 y 22

Y as est escrito: fue hecho el primer hombre Adam en alma viviente; el postrer Adam fue hecho en espritu vivificante.
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

1 Corintios 15:45

Y vivi Adam ciento y treinta aos (130), y engendr un hijo...y llam su nombre Seth.
And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:

Gnesis 5:3

Y vivi Seth ciento y cinco aos (105), y engendr a Ens


And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos:

Gnesis 5:6

Y vivi Ens noventa aos (90), y engendr Cainn.


And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan:

Gnesis 5:9

130+105+90+70+65+162+.=4000 B.C.

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Creationists Time Line


Tabla de la Creacin

4400 (4000 BC) years ago Creation Flood


6000 YA

Jesus Birth

2000

Evolutionists Time Line


Tabla de La Evolucin

20,000,000,000 Big Bang

4004 a.C.

Scofield Reference Bible 1909 La Biblia de Scofield de 1909


Atheists often ask me... Los Ateos muchas veces me preguntan...

Who did Adams sons marry?


Con quin se casaron los hijos de Adam?

Y sali Can de delante de Jehov, y habit en tierra de Nod, al oriente de Edn. Y conoci Can a su mujer, la cual concibi y pari a Henoch: y edific una ciudad, y llam el nombre de la ciudad del nombre de su hijo, Henoch.
And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
(it does not say he found her there) (no dice que la encontr all)

Gnesis 4:16 & 17

SETH

+ ?

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Those who believe in evolution have a very serious problem with this issue!
Los que creen en la evolucin tienen una problema muy grave con este asunto!

Prentice Hall 18 to 20 billion

Prentice Hall General Science, 1992, page 61

Glenco Biology 1995 p. 398

Holt Earth Science 1994 p. 281

Earth evolving (Atlas)

Holt Earth Science 1994 p. 282

Biology The Unity and Diversity of Life Wadsworth 1992 p. 301

Evolutionists Time Line


La Historia Segn La Evolucin

20,000,000,000 Big Bang

Abuelo?
Grandpa?

Dog breeds

Evolutionists Time Line

Tabla de La Evolucin
20,000,000,000 Big Bang

Who did Adams sons marry?


Con quin se casaron los hijos de Adam?

Y fueron los das de Adam, despus que engendr a Seth, ochocientos aos: y engendr hijos e hijas.
And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

Gnesis 5:4

Y fueron los das de Adam, despus que engendr a Seth, ochocientos aos: y engendr hijos e hijas.
And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

Gnesis 5:4

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My friend, Jim Bob Duggar, has 15 kids in 15 years. He was an Arkansas State Representative

Mi amigo, Jim Bob Duggar, tuvo 15 nios en 15 aos. El fue un senador del estado de Arkansas.

Adams sons married sisters.


1. There is no other choice. (No one would have thought it was wrong). 2. Who would you report them to? (They were the only People in the world). 3. There were no laws against it until 2500 years later. There was no need for the law till then. See: Lev. 18:6-18 4. Adam married his rib!

Los Hijos de Adam se casaron con sus hermanas.


1. No tenan otra opcin. (Nadie pensara que era mal). 2. A quin les reportar? (Fueron las nicas personas en el mundo)
3. No haba ley contra esto hasta 2500 aos despus. No se

necesitaba esta ley hasta aquello tiempo. Vea: Levi. 18:6-18 4. Adam se cas con su costilla.

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6) ...Y tom de su fruto, y comi; y dio tambin a su marido, el cual comi as como ella. 23) Y saclo Jehov del huerto de Edn
6) she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat 23) Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden,

Gnesis 3:6 y 23

Flood
El Diluvio
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Y dijo Faran a Jacob: Cuntos son los das de los aos de tu vida? Y respondi a Faran: Los das de los aos de mi peregrinacin son ciento y treinta aos; pocos y malos han sido los das de los aos de mi vida, y no han llegado a los das de los aos de la vida de mis padres en los das de su peregrinacin.
And Pharaoh said unto Jacob, How old art thou? And Jacob said unto Pharaoh, The days of the years of my pilgrimage are an hundred and thirty years: few and evil have the days of the years of my life been, and have not attained unto the days of the years of the life of my fathers in the days of their pilgrimage.

Gnesis 47:8 y 9

Flood
El Diluvio

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Textbooks say the earth is billions of years old.


Los libros cientficos dicen que la tierra tiene billiones de aos.

Y l respondiendo, les dijo: No habis ledo que el que los hizo *al principio, macho y hembra los hizo...?
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning* made them male and female,
*Was Jesus lying? Did he not understand modern science? Or was he right? * Minti Jess? No entendi ciencia moderna? o Fue correcto?

Mateo 19:4

Holt Earth Science, 1989, p. 502

Merrill 4th Grade Science, 1989, p. 116

4.6 billion years ago.


Glenco Biology 1995 p.398

Algunos que ensean que el mundo tiene millones de aos:


Hugh Ross, Don Stoner, Gerald Schroeder, Navigators, James Dobson, Dakes and Scofield study Bibles, Pat Robertson, John Ankerburg, Benny Hinn, John Hagee, Lee Stroble, Hank Hannegraff, Chuck Colson, Norman Geisler
Be sure to see our 5 hour video debate series with Dr. Ross.

This teaching clearly puts death before sin. The question is simple: did man bring death into the world or did death bring man into the world? Much more on that heresy on video #2 or CSE 101! Merrill 4th Grade Science 1989, p. 116

Esta enseanza claramente tiene la muerte antes del pecado. El pregunta simplemente es: Trajo el hombre la muerte en este mundo, o trajo la muerte al hombre a este mundo?

Mas rein la muerte desde Adam hasta Moiss,


Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, Romanos 5:14

Porque por cuanto la muerte vino por un hombre, tambin por un hombre vino la resurreccin de los muertos. Porque a la manera que en Adam todos mueren, as tambin todos en Cristo sern vivificados.
For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

1 Corintios 15:21 y 22

Who cares about the age of the earth?


1. The credibility of the book of Genesis is at stake. Can the average person read it and understand or do we need a Guru to lead us? 2. The credibility of Jesus is at stake. (Jesus cited Genesis 25 times see Defenders Bible p. 1556) 3. Nearly every other book in the Bible refers to Genesis. 200x in New Testament alone see Defenders Bible p. 1545-1556. 4. The evolutionists care. Their entire theory looks silly without billions of years to hide it in.

A quin le importa la edad de la tierra?


1. La credibilidad del libro de Gnesis esta en juego. Podemos leerlo y entenderlo, necesitamos un erudito para guiarnos? 2. La credibilidad de Jess esta en juego. (Jess cit Gnesis 25 veces) 3. Practicamente todos los libros de la Biblia hacen referencia a Gnesis. (200 veces solomente en el Nuevo Testamento) 4. A los evolucionistas les importa. Su teora parecera insensata sin billones de aos para esconder su falta de evidencia.

Porque si vosotros hubieseis credo a Moiss, me habrais credo a m: porque de m escribi l. Pero si a sus escritos no creis, Cmo creeris a mis palabras?
For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

John 5:46-47

There are numerous scientific ways to show the universe is not billions of years old.
Hay muchas maneras cientficas para mostrar que el universo no tiene billones de aos.

July 24, 1999 Star Tribune Minneapolis, Minn.

La semana pasada la poblacin del mundo pas a 6 billones de personas.

La Poblacin del Mundo

Billones de almas

Human Population Chart

Crecimiento Moderno de los Humanos

1 billion in 1810

Merrill Earth Science 1993 p. 503

Hay demasiada gente en el mundo?

Is the world overcrowded?


National Geographic Oct. 1999 Thomas Malthuss Essay on the Principle of Population had a great influence on Darwin.

Over 25 billion square feet


Ms que 25 billones de pies cuadrados

New Mexico, Sept. 2004

New Mexico, Sept. 2004

Si hay demasiada gente donde tu vives:

If its overcrowded where you are:

Si hay demasiada gente donde tu vives:

Debes Mudarte!

If its overcrowded where you are:

Move!

La Poblacin del Mundo

See also: Scientific Creationism P. 167,

Billones de almas

Human Population Chart

150,000 personas por pulgada. Esto sera demasiado!

Poblacin del Mundo

150,000 people per square inch! That would be crowded! h

Y los bendijo Dios; y djoles Dios: Fructificad y multiplicad, y henchid la tierra, [tener muchos nios]
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish (fill) the earth, [have lots of kids!]

Gnesis 1:28

Porque as dijo Jeohv, que cre los cielos; l es Dios, el que form la tierra, el que la hizo y la compuso; no la cre en vano, para que fuese habitada la cre: Yo Jehov, y ninguno ms que yo.
For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

Isaas 45:18

In order to stabilize world population we must eliminate 350,000 people per day.
Para estabilizar la poblacin del mundo, debemos eliminar 350,000 personas cada da.

- Jacques Cousteau
Demanding Accountability United Nations Development Fund for Women. 1994, p. 84-85

A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.
Una poblacin del mundo de 250 300 millones de personas, 95% menos de niveles presentes, sera ideal
- Ted Turner- CNN

Human Population in Billions


La Poblacin Humana en Billones

Goal of NWO
7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 1930 1940 1950 1960 1970 1980 1990 2000 ?

La meta del Nuevo Orden Secular

Poblacin del mundo en billones de personas

Y Jehov Dios dijo a la serpiente: Por cuanto esto hiciste, maldita sers entre todas las bestias y entre todos los animales del campo; sobre tu pecho andars, y polvo comers todos los das de tu vida:
And the LORD God said unto the serpent (Satan), Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Gnesis 3:14

Y enemistad pondr entre ti y la mujer, y entre tu simiente y la simiente suya; sta te herir en la cabeza, y t le herirs en el calcaar.
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Gnesis 3:15

Herodes entonces, como se vio burlado de los hombres sabios, se enoj mucho, y envi, y mat todos los nios que haba en Bethlehem y en todos sus trminos, de edad de dos aos abajo,
Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under,

Mateo 2:16

People are the cause of all the problems; we have too many of them; we need to get rid of some of them, and this (ban of DDT) is as good a way as any.
La Gente es la causa de todos los problemas; hay demasiada; debemos eliminar algunos, y esta (ley contra DDT) sera una buena manera como cualquier otra.

- Charles Wurster,
Environmental Defense Fund

Convention on Biological Diversity Signed by Bill Klinton, United States in New York June 4, 1993. Section 9.2,3,2 claims

that we must either reduce the earths human population to 1 billion or reduce the standard of living to an agrarian peasant status.
Debemos reducir la poblacin del mundo a 1 billn o reducir el estndar de vivienda a un estatus de probreza agraria.
Platform for United Nations urban-ecological summit held in Istanbul, Turkey, June 1996

Christianity is our foe. If animal rights is to succeed, we must destroy the Judeo-Christian religious tradition. El Cristianismo es nuestro enemigo. Si los derechos de los animales puede tener xito, debemos destruir la tradicin religiosa Judeo-Cristiana.
- Peter Singer, professor at Princeton, favors killing babies up to 28 days old. The father of animal rights. AP Nov. 22, 1999 See: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/2900/psai.html

The world has cancer, and the cancer is man.


El mundo tiene cncer, y este cancer es el hombre.
- Alan Gregg, Mankind at The Turning Point 1974. He was a longtime official for the Rockefeller Foundation.

If I could be reincarnated, I would wish to return to Earth as a killer virus* to lower human population levels.
- Prince Philip, (husband of Queen Elizabeth) President-World Wildlife Fund Major investor in ADM- Majority % of world food distribution.
Si yo podra ser reencarnado, me gustara regresar a la tierra como un virus asesino para disminuir los niveles de la poblacin humana.

Food is power, we use it to control behavior, we do not apologize.

La comida es poder, y la usamos para controlar el comportamiento, ... no nos disculpamos por esto.
- Catherine Bertino, Exec. Dir., UN Food distribution. From a UN speech Sept. 14, 1997

*See Emerging Viruses by Dr. Len Horowitz. Every person in the military or considering having their children vaccinated needs to read this info. Learn what really caused Gulf war syndrome etc. 1-800-336-9266 www.tetrahedron.org www.billsardi.com www.vaclib.org
Both available from CSE

More than 22,000 reports of hospitalizations and injuries, including 300 deaths, following hepatitis B vaccinations have been reported since 19 to the governments Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System.
The Eagle Forum, Spring 2000 p.1

I found that the whole vaccine business was indeed a gigantic hoax. Most doctors are convinced that they are useful, but if you look at the proper statistics and study the instances of these diseases you will realize that this is not so . . You cannot immunize sick children, malnourished children, and expect to get away with it. Youll kill far more children than would have died from natural infection.-Dr Kalokerinos MD ....There is growing suspicion that immunization against relatively harmless childhood diseases may be resposible for the dramatic increase in autoimmune diseases since mass inoculations were introduced. These are fearful diseases such as cancer, leukemia, rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis, Lou Gehrigs disease, lupus erthematosus, and the Guillain-Barre syndrome.--Dr. Mendelsohn, M.D.

Dr. Hovind, We have a son that has been damaged by the MMR vaccine. He lost his ability to walk, talk and feed himself. The government has a fund that compensates for injuries due to vaccines. Our 8 year old Joshua has won this. (National Vaccine Injury Program). This business of Shots for Tots is aimed at seeing to it that children under 2 are fully vaccinated by their doctors offices. You would not believe what is going on in this area. After studying this for the last 4 years, Satan is seeing to it that well meaning parents are destroying their babies immune system by putting over 22 viruses into their system before they are two. www.909shot.com/anna

7+ miles N. of Elberton GA on Hwy 77, 100 yards off the road on the right, are the Georgia Guidestones. erected March 22, 1980 by the Masonic Lodge.

The Cherokee Indians called this place ALYEHLI which means Center of the Universe

Los Indios Cherokis llamarn a ste lugar ALYEHLI, lo cual significa Centro del Universo

These stones have The Ten Commandments of the New Age

Una Tabla en Georgia, EEUU que contiene Los Diez Mandamientos de la Nueva Era

Seor Hovind mirando estas tablas

#1. Maintain Humanity Under 500,000,000 (1/2 billion) in Perpetual Balance with Nature.
#1. Tener la poblacin del mundo bajo de 500,000,000 (1/2 billn) en balanza perpetua con la naturaleza.
(These stones are full of Masonic symbols) see: www.radioliberty.com And cuttingedge.org

For lots more on the New World Order plans to reduce the world population see our college class CSE 101.
We cover the entire seminar in CSE 101-104

Call the office for details. 850-479-DINO (3466) www.drdino.com

Regardless of the future, the current population shows only 4400 years of growth.

Poblacin del Mundo

H M

Billions of souls

Pese al futuro, la poblacin actual demuestra un crecimiento en slo 4400 aos.

Based on DNA studies, scientists are now putting forth the theory that there was a catastrophe 70,000 years ago that reduced the human population to a few thousand creating a genetic bottle neck. They propose that a volcano caused this near extinction of mankind. Discover Channel, May 12, 2002

Galaxy find and scan make it spin

Eta Carinae

Super nova
Astronomers have observed that about every 30 years a star dies and explodes into a super nova.* If the universe is billions of years old, how come there are less than 300 super nova (dead stars)? There should be several hundred million of them. Are the stars wrong, or the evolution theory?
*ICR september, 1998

Some try to say they have proof of stars forming. They point to spots getting brighter. Obviously this could just be dust clearing and a star behind showing through.

Textbooks say Red Giant Stars evolve into white dwarf stars over billions of years.
Prentice Hall Earth Science 1995

Egyptian hieroglyphs from 2000 B.C. described Sirius as red. Cicero, in 50 B.C., stated Sirius was red. Seneca described Sirius as being redder than Mars. Ptolemy listed Sirius as one of the six red stars in 150 A.D. Today it is a white star-binary. Textbooks say it should take billions of years for this to happen.
Its a Young World Paul Ackerman

Jupiters moon Ganymede has a strong magnetic field. Magnetic fields are generated by the liquid motion of molten metal inside a body. Yet Ganymede should have cooled solid billions of years ago.
Denver Post Dec. 13, 1996 Jupiter Probe detects mysterious moon dust. By K.C. Cole

Holt Earth Science 1994 p. 579

Saturns rings Saturns rings

Los aros de Saturno

See Its a Young World After All by Paul Ackerman.

Also In the Beginning by Walt Brown p. 29 & 69 Saturns rings are unstable CSE- $24.50 and cannot be billions
of years old.

Available from ICR (619) 448-0900

Receding moon drawing from Impact

La Edad temprana para la luna y la tierra

Por Dr. Thomas G. Barnes

The Inverse Square Law:

The force of attraction between two objects is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.

The Inverse Square Law:

If the distance is 1/3, the force of attraction between two objects is 9 times greater. 1/3 inverted is 3/1. 32 = 9

This fact alone puts the age of the Earth/Moon system at less than 1.2 billion year max.
In the Beginning by Walt Brown, available from CSE

Esta evidencia en si misma nos ensea que la luna y la tierra tienen el mximo de 1.2 billones de aos.

That explains what happened to the tall dinosaurs. They got Mooned to death!
Esto nos explica lo que pas con los dinosaurios.

Fueron matados por la luna!

Short period comets are losing material and have a life expectancy of less than 10,000 years.
R.A. Littleton, Mysteries of the Solar System (Oxford, England: Clarendon Press, 1968), p. 110

If your outgo exceeds your income,

Your upkeep will be your downfall!


Si sus gastos exceden su salario, lo que necesita para mantenerse lo llevar a la bancarrota.

Short period comets are losing material and have a life expectancy of less than 10,000 years. Why are they still here?

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8 hours answering the Anti-Hovind web sites. DVD or VHS $45


Video de ocho horas contestando las paginas del red que son AntiHovind.

In 1950, based on a study of the orbits of several longperiod comets, the Dutch astronomer Jan Oort proposed (hoped, wished, prayed) that a great spherical shell of (comets) existed at the remote frontiers of our solar system.
Matson

Better statistics in more recent years have supported the existence of the Oort cloud and put it at a distance of 50,000 AU (AU=astronomical units).
From Matsons web site answer to my young earth arguments.

Pluto is 39 AU from the sun and cannot be seen without a powerful telescope. Seeing a comet at 50,000 AU is impossible!
Prentice Hall Earth Science 1991 p. 73

No one has ever seen the Oort cloud. It is hard to see a comet 1 AU from earth. Oort never saw the Oort cloud! Oort proposed a cloud of comets surrounding the solar system based on mathematical errors.
See Raymond Littleton, The Non-existence of the Oort Cometary Shell. Astrophysics and Space Science, Vol. 31 December 1974, pp. 385-401

Many Scientific papers are written each year about the Oort Cloud, its properties, its origin, its evolution. Yet there is not yet a shred of direct observational evidence for its existence.
Comet 1997, p. 148 Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan, p. 210

Matson said, Sorry fellas, but if you want to use this comet argument it is up to you to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Oort cloud and other sources dont exist!
From Matsons answer to my young earth arguments.

Suppose I said, Watermelons are blue inside until you cut the skin. Prove Im wrong!
This is called shifting the burden of proof.
Imagnate si yo digo, Sandas son azules adentro hasta que las abres.
Prubeme incorrecto!

Matson said, Sorry fellas, but if you want to use this comet argument it is up to you to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Oort Cloud and other sources dont exist!
From Matsons answer to my young earth arguments.

Los cielos cuentan la gloria de Dios, y la expansin denuncia la obra de sus manos.
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Salmos 19:1

Evolutionary theory has the sun and stars evolving before the earth. God said He created earth before sun and stars.
La teria de Evolucin dice que el sol y las estrellas vinieron antes de la tierra. Pero Dios dijo que cre la tierra antes del sol y las estrellas.

Gnesis 1

Does the Bible match evolution?


Ensea la Biblia la evolcin?

Bible
1. Earth before sun 2. Oceans before land 3. Light before sun 4. Land plants first 5. Fruit trees before fish 6. Fish before insects

Evolution
1. Sun before earth 2. Land before oceans 3. Sun before light 4. Marine life first 5. Fish before fruit trees. 6. Insects before fish

La Biblia
1. La Tierra vino antes del sol 2. Oceanos antes de la tierra 3. Luz antes del sol 4. Plantas primero 5. Arboles frutales antes de peces 6. Peces antes de los insectos

Evolucin
1. El sol antes de la tierra 2. La tierra antes de los oceanos 3. El sol antes de la luz 4. Vida aqutica primero 5. Peces antes de los rboles frutales 6. Insctos antes de los peces

Does the Bible match evolution?


Ensea la Biblia la evolcin?`

Bible

Evolution
7. Sun before plants 8. Land mammals before marine mammals 9. Reptiles before birds 10. Atmosphere above water 11. Death brought man into the world 12. Man created God

7. Plants before sun 8. Marine mammals before land mammals 9. Birds before reptiles 10. Atmosphere between two layers of water 11. Man brought death into the world 12. God created man

La Biblia
7. Plantas antes del sol 8. Animales aqaticos antes de los de tierra 9. Aves antes de reptles 10. Atmsfera entre dos lugares de agua 11. Hombres trajeron la muerte al mundo 12. Dios cre a los hombres.

Evolucin
7. El sol antes de las plantas 8. Animales de tierra antes de los del oceano 9. Reptles antes de aves 10. Atmsfera arriba del agua 11. La muerte trajo el hombre al mundo 12. Los hombres cre a Dios.

Couldnt God have used evolution to create?

The god that would use evolution is cruel, wasteful and retarded.

He is not the God of the Bible!


Pudo Dios usar la evolucin para crear los hombres?
Un dios que usara la evolucin sera cruel, despilfarrador, y retardado.

Ese no es el Dios de la Biblia!

Cuando considero tus cielos, obra de tus dedos, La luna y las estrellas que t formaste,
When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;

Salmos 8:3

Enardecise mi corazn dentro de m; Encendise fuego en mi meditacin,


While I was musing the fire burned:

Salmos 39:3

Acordme de los das antiguos; Meditaba en todas tus obras, Reflexionaba en las obras de tus manos.
I remember the days of old; I meditate on all thy works; I muse on the work of thy hands.

Psalm 143:5

Cuando considero tus cielos, obra de tus dedos, La luna y las estrellas que t formaste:
When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;

Psalm 8:3

Qu es el hombre, para que tengas de l en memoria, Y el hijo del hombre, que lo visites?
What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?

Psalm 8:4

Its been estimated that there are enough stars for every individual on earth to own 11 trillion of them.

Se ha estimado que hay estrellas suficientes para que cada persona tenga 11 trillones de ellas.

Se pueden observar ms estrellas que las que se pueden contar en esta pequea rea.

More stars were seen in this small area than could be counted!

O habla a la tierra, que ella te ensear: Los peces de la mar te lo declararn tambin.
Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.

Job 12:8

Los magnetos pierden su magnetismo con el tiempo.

Magnets lose their strength with time.

The Earths magnetic field is getting weaker.


1. It cannot be billions of years old.- 25,000 max. 2. Carbon dating cannot work for more than a few thousand years. See video #7 and
Impact # 189 for more on C14

Earths magnetic strength has declined 10% in the last 150 years.
Astronomy and the Bible Donald DeYoung, p. 18
See ICRs Impact # 188 for more on this. Also Scientific Creationism by Henry Morris p. 157, (619)-448-0900

The lower leg of the Fairbanks Creek mammoth had a radiocarbon age of 15,380 RCY (radio carbon years), while its skin and flesh were 21,300 RCY.
Harold E. Anthony, Natures Deep Freeze, Natural History, Sept. 1949, p. 300, See also: In the Beginning Walt Brown p. 124

One part of the Vollosovitch mammoth carbon dated at 29,500 years and another part at 44,000.
Troy L. Pewe, Quaternary Stratigraphic Nomenclature in Unglaciated Central Alaska, Geological Survey Professional Paper 862 (U.S. Gov. printing office, 1975) p. 30

Textbooks Will say There are magnetic reversals In the rock.

There are no magnetic Reversals on the ocean floor. There are only areas of Weaker magnetism.

Merrill Earth Science 1993 p. 343

LA TEORIA DE PANGAEA

What they dont tell you:


1. Africa has been shrunk 35-40% to make them fit. 2. Mexico and Central America are gone.

Lo que no te dicen:
1. Africa ha sido disminuido 35-40% para que quepa. 2. Mexico y America Central no existen.

Dnde sta:
Mexico? Panama? Costa Rica? Guatemala? Honduras? Belize? Nicaragua?
McGraw Hill Earth Science, 1973, p. 228

#4 If you take the water out of the oceans you will notice there is dirt underneath.

Si se quita todo el agua de los oceanos, se puede ver tierra abajo.

La Tierra tiene una superficie slida, no se hallan vacos debajo de los oceanos.

The earth has a solid crust. It is not hollow under the oceans!
Holt Earth Science 1994 p.18

More about pangaea on seminar part 6


Ms acerca de pangaea en leccin 6

La tierra esta girando a mas de 1000 millas por hora en el equador.

Pensacola News Journal, 12/6/1990

Time to Kill Earths Rotation is slowing down. To compensate for this lagging motion, June will be one second longer than normal. This Leap Second announced by the International Earth Rotation Service in February, will keep calendar time in close alignment with international time.
-Astronomy Magazine, June 1992, p. 24

Time to Kill Earths Rotation is slowing down. To compensate for this lagging motion, June will be one second longer than normal. This Leap Second announced by the International Earth Rotation Service in February, will keep calendar time in close alignment with international time.
-Astronomy Magazine, June 1992, p. 24

Time to Kill Earths Rotation is slowing down. To compensate for this lagging motion, June will be one second longer than normal. This Leap Second announced by the International Earth Rotation Service in February, will keep calendar time in close alignment with international time.
-Astronomy Magazine, June 1992, p. 24

Past leap seconds: Jan. 1973 Jan. 1974 Jan. 1975 Jan. 1976 Jan. 1977 Jan. 1978 Jan. 1979 Jan. 1980 July 1981 July 1982 July 1983 July 1985 Jan. 1988 Jan. 1990 Jan. 1991 July 1992 July 1993 July 1994 Jan. 1996 International Earth Rotation Service

Astronomy June, 1994

The spin of the earth causes the Coriolis effect.


Prentice Hall Earth Science 1995, p. 499

The Sahara Desert has a prevailing wind pattern.


This causes the desert to grow. This process is called desertification.

HBJ Earth Sci

1300 miles

About 4000 years old.


See: Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany. July 15, 1999 Geophysical Research Letters.

Tiene acerca de 4000 aos

HBJ Earth Science, 1989, p. 277

Oil wells can have up to 20,000 psi!

The rock can only hold that pressure for 10,000 years or less.

See: Creation Ex Nihilo Vol 12 No. 2, p. 30 for How fast can oil form?

Oil and gas are from organisms that once lived in the sea. changed by heat and pressure into oil.
Holt General Science, 1988, p. 294. See also Journal of Petroleum Geology Leigh Price 1983 p. 32 for oil in 1000-10,000 years! And How Fast
can Oil Form by Andrew Snelling 1990, Creation Ex Nihilo, 12(2):30; and Impact #155

Aceite y gas son hecho de organismos que una vez vivieron en el mar...cambiado al aceite por calor y presin.

See: Creation Ex Nihilo Vol 12 No. 2, p. 30 for How fast can oil form? Also Converting Organic Wastes to Oil, by Hadden R. Appell, US Dept. of Interior, Bureau of mines. 1971 for oil being made in 20 minutes.

In 1996 a $22.4 million proposal was approved in Western Australia that will build a plant to create oil from sewage sludge in 30 minutes.
See Creation/Evolution: Does it Matter what we Believe? By Mike Riddle, ICR, p. 28

Anything to Oil
Technological savvy could turn 600 million tons of turkey guts and other waste into 4 billion barrels of light Texas crude each year By Brad Lemley Discover Vol. 24 No 5 (May 2003)

Gasolinera Americana Famosa

Sinclair gas and oil company uses the dinosaur as their logo. They say dinosaurs turned into oil.

Hecho en 80 millones de aos

Ark floating over dead animals

Adios Abuelo!

Denver, Colorado E.E.U.U.

A giant freezer to store the ice cores in the Federal Center in Denver, Colorado

Ice core drillings in Greenland

See Impact #226 From ICR 619-448-0900 for more.


Prentice Hall Earth Science 1989, p. 297

Ancient Antarctic Ice studies in Denver lab


LAKEWOOD, Colo. (AP)---Ten ice core samples yanked from a remote Antarctic glacier are resting in a giant freezer here waiting to be tested
(National Ice Core Laboratory Denver, Colorado)

They told me the layers represented annual rings because in summer the top layer of snow melts and re-freezes as clear ice which shows up dark here. In winter the snow packs and shows up as a white layer.
Summer Winter Summer Winter Summer Winter

In Greenland and Antarctic, where the weather is consistently dry and very cold, the glaciers are miles thick but the annual rings are very thin.

The deepest cores can measure over 10,000 feet cores from Greenland drilled since 1990 show the northern climate was erratic 135,000 years ago.

Creation ex nihilo June-Aug. 1997 p. 10

The planes landed in 1942 in Greenland. Estos aviones aterrizaron en Groenlandia en 1942.

The lost squadron was covered by 263 feet of ice in 48 years!


Creation ex nihilo June - August 1997 p. 13 (800)-350-3232 The restoration of one P-38 was done in Middleboro, KY ph. 606-248-1149

Dismantling the P-38,


The Lost Squadron p. 178

Middlesboro, KY E.E.U.U.

Ice rings in Greenland The Lost Squadron p.188

1942 - 1990 = 48 years. The planes were 263 feet below the surface. Thats about 5.5 feet/year. 10,000 5.5 = 1,824 years . Deeper ice is pressed into finer layers so 4,400 years to accumulate the ice at the poles is no problem!
Note The planes do not sink in the ice due to pressure on the ice. Planes are nose heavy and would not be horizontal if they sank.

In April, 1999 I visited Bob Cardin at the museum in Middleboro, KY. (606)-248-1149. He helped dig out and restore the P-38.
At 62 feet down they hit a plywood cover left by the 1983 expedition eight years years earlier! 8ft/yr!

He told me there were many hundreds of layers of ice above the planes when they dug them out!
4-18-01 Bob told me that 30-40 rings accumulated in 9 years. www.thelostsquadron.com

This article still calls these ice core lines annual layers when they are from warm and cold spells.
Scientific American Feb. 1998 p. 82

Ignorance can be fixed. Stupid is forever!

La ignorancia se puede resolver. Pero, estupidez es para siempre!

Dr. Hovind, I got 15 layers of snow on my car in 8 hours! The Inuipt Indians (Alaska North Slope Eskimos) have 42 or 43 words for snow! Icy snow has its own word. So does powdery snow, and so on. Michael S. Pankion, michael@arctic.net

Cretaceous Jurassic Triassic Permian Carboniferous Devonian Silurian Ordovician Cambrian

A Test-Book of Geology by Charles Schuchert, John Wiley & Sons, Inc. London p. 784

Joggins, Nova Scotia, Canada. 1997

This 30 foot petrified tree is one of hundreds found in the Kettles coal mines near Cookville, TN. The top and bottom are in different coal seams dated thousands of years different in age. www.bible.ca/tracks

Scientists estimate there are 20,000 trees in the bottom of Spirit Lake. Many of them are buried upright and some are already 15 feet deep in sediments.
They seem to settle out by species giving the appearance of a complete forest.

Chopped Petrified wood in Arizonas Petrified Forest.


World Explorer
815-2536390 p. 65

A mother Ichthyosaur giving birth. Fossilization is not a slow process!


Creation Magazine 12-99, 1-800-350-3232

Petrified cowboy leg found in a dry creek bed near the West Texas town of Iraan, about 1980 by Mr. Jerry Stone, an employee of Corvette Oil company.
The bones of the partial leg and foot within the boot were revealed by an elaborate set of C.T. Scans performed at Harris Methodist Hospital in Bedford, Texas on July 24, 1997. The Radiologic Technician was Evelyn Americus, AART. A complete set of these scans remains with the boot at the Creation Evidence Museum in Glen Rose, Texas. 254-897-3200

Prentice Hall General Science, 1992 p. 145

See In the Beginning Walt Brown p. 24

30,000 years to accumulate the mud in the delta.

Tree ring dating is not an exact science. Trees often produce more than one ring each year. 4300 would be the max. for this tree. It is probably younger. Allyn and Bacon Biology, 1977, p. 180, Some trees with more rings
have now been counted but the actual age of 4300 is more reasonable. http://www.sonic.net/bristlecone/martyr.html

Tiene menos de 4200 aos!

Holt Earth Science, 1989, p. 279

Del lado Canadiense

Canadian Side

Heath Earth Science 1994, p. 178

Crest lines showing recession of Horseshoe Falls since 1764. 865 feet in 185 years is approximately 4.7 feet per year.
Source: Niagara Falls Museum Guide

Las cataratas estn aqu ahora! The falls are now here!

In 1841 Charles Lyell visited the falls. He said they were 10,000 years old.p. 179-182 *

A gorge about 7 miles long runs just below Niagara Falls. A simple calculation show that it has been 9900 years Holt Earth Science, 1984, p. 384
See also: In the Minds of Men, by Ian Taylor, p. 83, available from CSE. See also Creation Ex Nihilo Sept-Nov, 2000 p. 8

Niagara Map

7.5 miles =39,600 feet. Divided by 4.7 feet/year =8426 years.


(They used 4 feet/year not 4.7 for the public school textbook.)

Holt Earth Science, 1989, p. 279

30%

Oceans today are 3.6% salt.

They could have gone from fresh water to salt in less than 5000 years.

Holt Biology 1994, p. 225

Agua Dulce

Fresh Water Crocodile

Agua Salada

Salt Water Crocodile

Changing from a fresh water crocodile to a salt water crocodile is a minor change compared to the evolution myth.
Cambiar de un cocodrilo agua dulce a un cocodrilo de agua salada es una cosa menor comparado al mto de la evolucin.

Changing from a fresh water crocodile to a salt water crocodile is a minor change compared to the evolution myth. They teach that a rock changed to a crock!

According to self professed infidel Dave Matson, the Bulletin of the National Speleological Society (37: p.21, 1975) gave their observed growth rates as ranging from 0.1 to 10 centimeters [2.5 inches ] per thousand years. And Moore and Sullivan (1978, p. 47) give an upper average rate of only a little more than 0.1 mm/year

Lincoln Memorial built 1922 photo 1960s *

Bat covered in flow-stone

National Geographic Magazine October 1953 p. 442

2 inches, 2000 years?

Refrigeration shed built 1926-1927 inside Fort Pickens in Pensacola, Florida

40 years in Indiana!

Picture taken in 1987 of level 5 of the lead mine at Mt. Isa, QL, Australia. The mine was 55 years old at time of photo.
Creation Magazine March-May 1998 p. 27 Note sign for Switch and miners

13 in. stalactite growing under bld. 90747, the Oasis Caf at Hurlburt Field, FL. The building was opened in the fall of 1993.
Photo by David Fosse 850-244-8373.

On the floor under it this stalagmite was removed since it was a hazard to trip on.
Bld. 90747, the Oasis Caf at Hurlburt Field, FL. The building was opened in the fall of 1993.
Found by David Fosse 850-244-8373.

Mike Croft 6103 Wagon Bend Austin, TX 78744 Home 512-488-1639

2-17-03 Dear Dr. Hovind, These stalactites are growing in the garage of a private student condominium near UT campus at Austin Texas. The name of the condominium complex is Centennial Condos on the corner of 28th and Rio Grande. This structure was completed in October of 1997. They have had to put up tin attached to the beams of the garage in places so that stalagmites wouldnt grow on the kids cars!

Me-61

100 year old flowstone formation in Thermopolis, Wyoming Liberty Magazine, May/June 1993, page 24

Fountain started a few years later down the street.


Me-61

At the current rate of erosion the continents would erode flat in 14 million years. How can we have rocks 300 times older than that still above sea level?

See In the Beginning by Walt Brown

Erosion features all over the earth show there was much greater erosion in the past-probably from Noahs flood.

Erosion features all over the earth show there was much greater erosion in the past-probably from Noahs flood. Zagros mountains

the first developed systems of word writing appeared only about 5000 years ago. World Book Encyclopedia The oldest language that can reasonably be reconstructed is already modern, sophisticated, complete from an evolutionary point of view.
The Biological Nature of Man, G.G. Simpson Science, Vol. 152, April 22, 1966, p. 477.

...Los primeros sistemas de escritura al nivel mundial comenzaron hace 5000 aos atras.

The year 2000 was 4700 on the Chinese calendar. Maybe they started with the birth of Shem or Noah before the flood.
http://www.brokersys.com/~kcyong/cny.html For more on calendars see: Creation Ex Nihilo Feb. 2000, p. 46

El ao 2000 era 4700 en el calendario Chino.


Tal vez comenzaron su calendario con el nacimiento de Sem o No antes del diluvio.

Our year 2000 was the year 5760 on the Hebrew calendar.
Nuestro ao de 2000 fue el ao 5760 en el calendario Hebreo.

The Saxons in England had a genealogy going back to Adam, the Danes and Norwegian king lists go back to Noah.

Egyptian king lists are exaggerated as shown by Courvilles research (1956).


Evolution Cruncher p. 49

Why are the oldest reliable historical records less than 6000 years old?

Por qu es que los documentos histricos fehacientes mas antiguos son menos de 6000 aos?

Una tierra joven

El mundo viejo

Why arent students shown the evidence for the universe being young?
Por qu no se ensea a los alumnos la evidencia de un universo joven?

Science Book? Many modern textbooks are books about evolution not books about science.
Publishers are using our schools to spread their religion at our expense.

Millones de aos pasados...

This is calling Jesus a liar!


Esto es como llamar mentiroso a Jess!

I Can Read About Prehistoric Animals

Y l respondiendo, les dijo: No habis ledo que el que los hizo al principio, macho y hembra los hizo...? Mateo 19:4
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, Matthew 19:4

Did they really live to be 900+?


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What about dinosaurs?


Y qu de los dinosaurios?

Mirad que nadie os saquee como despojo por filosofa y vano engao, segn la tradicin de los hombres, segn los elementos del mundo, y no segn Cristo:
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Colosenses 2:8

How will he view the world after 12 or 16 years in your school system?

Creacin? Evolucin?

En el principio cre Dios los cielos y la tierra.


In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gnesis 1:1
The Bible is right about the beginning. It is right about the end also. Are you ready? La Biblia es correcta sobre el principio. Es correcta acerca del fin tambin. Ests listo?

Repasemos:
1. 2. 3. 4. Dios hizo la tierra. El es el dueo de ella. El hace las leyes. Cada uno de nosotros somos culpables de romper las leyes de Dios.

Lets summarize
1. 2. 3. 4. God made the world. He owns it. He makes the rules. We are all guilty of breaking Gods rules.

10 Commandments Ex. 20
1. No other Gods before me. 2. No graven images. 3. Dont take Gods name in vain. 4. Remember the Sabbath.

Los Diez Mandamientos


1. No tendrs dioses ajenos delante de m. 2. No te hars imagen. 3. No tomars el nombre de Jehov tu Dios en vano. 4. Acordarte has del da del reposo. 5. Honra tu padre y tu madre.

5. Honor your father and mother


6. Thou shalt not kill.

6. No matars. 7. Thou shalt not commit adultery. 7. No cometers adulterio. 8. No hurtars. (No robars). 8. Thou shalt not steal.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness. 9. No hablars contra tu prjimo falso testimonio.

10. Thou shalt not covet.

10. No codiciars.

Summary:
1. God made the world. 2. He owns it. 3. He makes the rules. 4. 5. We will be punished or
(like the 10 commandments) We are guilty of breaking His rules. 1. 2.

Resumen:
Dios hizo la tierra. El es dueo de ella.

3.
4.

El hace las reglas y leyes


Estamos culpables de romper sus reglas

5.

Debemos estar castigados o

We must find a substitute to take our place. Jesus is willing and able.

Debemos encontrar un sustituto para tomar nuestro

Jess puede y quiere.

El fuego no tocar a aquellos en el agua. El juicio de Dios no les tocar a aquellos que estn en Cristo.

The fire will not touch the ones in the water. Gods judgment will not hurt those in Christ.

Poblacin del Mundo


Goal of NWO
6 5 4 3 2 1 0 1930 1940 1950 1960 1970 1980 1990 1999 ?

If you died today, where would you go?

Si mueres hoy, dnde ir su alma?

Estars muerto por muuuuuucho tiempo. You will be dead for a loooooong time!

Slo lo que tienes es esta linea. sala por el Seor

Ateo

Estoy bien ocupado, y no tengo tiempo para esto.

Some claim to be atheists. Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God.
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Algunos dicen que son ateos. Salmos 14:1 Dijo el necio en su corazn: no hay Dios.

Ateo

Available from CSE

El Seor no tarda su promesa como algunos la tienen por tardanza; empero es paciente para con nosotros, no queriendo que ninguno perezca, sino que todos vengan al arrepentimiento.
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

2 Pedro 3:9

What on earth are you doing for heavens sake?


Qu estas haciendo por la causa del cielo?

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Si la Creacin es la Verdad:

1. There is a Creator.
1. Hay un Creador.

If Creation is True: If Evolution is True: If Creation is Si la Evolucin es la Verdad: Si la Creacin es la Verdad: True: 1. There is ais Creator. 1. There is no Creator. 1. There a 1. No hay un Creador. 1. Creator. Hay un Creador.

If Creation is True: If Evolution is True: If Creation is Si la Evolucin es la Verdad: Si la Creacin es la Verdad: True: 1. There is ais Creator. 1. There is no Creator. 1. There a 1. No hay un Creador. 1. Creator. Hay un Creador.
2. There are rulesright and wrong.
2. Existen reglas y leyes.

If Creation is True: If Evolution is True: If Creation is Si la Evolucin es la Verdad Si la Creacin es la Verdad: True: 1. There is ais Creator. 1. There is no Creator. 1. There a 1. Creator. Hay un Creador. 1. No hay un Creador.
2. There are rulesright and wrong.
2. Existen reglas y leyes.

2. There are no rules-no


commandments-no law.
2. No hay leyes ni reglas ni mandamientos.

If Creation is True: If Evolution is True: If Creation is Si la Evolucin es la Verdad: Si la Creacin es la Verdad: True: 3. There is ais purpose 1. There a to Creator. life.
3. Hay un propsito para la vida.

If Creation is True: If Evolution is True: If Creation is Si la Evolucin es la Verdad: Si la Creacin es la Verdad: True: 3. There is ais purpose 3. There is no purpose 1. There a to life. to Creator. life.
3. Hay un propsito para la vida. 3. No hay propsito para la vida.

If Creation is True: If Evolution is True: If Creation is Si la Evolucin es la Verdad: Si la Creacin es la Verdad: True: 3. There is ais purpose 3. There is no purpose 1. There a to life. to Creator. life.
3. Hay un propsito para la vida. 3. No hay propsito para la vida.

4. Man is a fallen creature in need of a Savior.


4. El hombre es una criatura cada que tiene necesidad de un Salvador.

If Creation is True: If Evolution is True: If Creation is Si la Evolucin es la Verdad: Si la Creacin es la Verdad: True: 3. There is ais purpose 3. There is no purpose 1. There a to life. to Creator. life.
3. Hay un propsito para la vida. 3. No hay propsito para la vida.

4. Man is a fallen creature in need of a Savior.


4. El hombre es una criatura cada que tiene necesidad del Salvador.

4. Man is evolving with no need of a Savior.


4. El hombre esta evolucionando y no tiene ninguna necesidad del Salvador.

If Creation is True: If Evolution is True: If Creation is Si la Evolucin es la Verdad: Si la Creacin es la Verdad: True: 5. Man brought 1. There is adeath into the world. Creator.
5. El hombre traj la muerta a ste mundo.

If Creation is True: If Evolution is True: If Creation is Si la Evolucin es la Verdad: Si la Creacin es la Verdad: True: 5. Man brought 5. Death brought man 1. There is adeath into the world. into the world. Creator.
5. El hombre trajo la muerte a ste mundo. 5. La muerte trajo al hombre a ste mundo

thus from the war of nature, from famine and death, the most exalted object which we are capable of conceiving, namely, the production of higher animals, directly follows.
Charles Darwin The Origin of Species p. 243

If Creation is True: If Evolution is True: If Creation is Si la Evolucin es la Verdad: Si la Creacin es la Verdad: True: 6. There is life 6. There is no after-life. 1. There is after a death. Creator.
6. Hay vida despes de la muerte. 6. No hay vida despus de morir.

7. There is comfort in knowing the future.


7. Hay consuelo en saber el futuro.

7. There is no hope of knowing the future.


7. No hay esperanza de saber el futuro.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


The first 3 days are not literal days without the sun.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


The first 3 days are not Ex. 20:11 puts all 7 days literal days without the as being the same. sun. Scores of other scriptures indicate a 6 day creation.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


The first 3 days are not Ex. 20:11 puts all 7 days literal days without the as being the same. sun. Scores of other scriptures indicate a 6 day creation. There is no closure (evening and morning) to the 7th day so it could be billions of years.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


The first 3 days are not Ex. 20:11 puts all 7 days literal days without the as being the same. Scores of other sun. scriptures indicate a 6 day creation. Ibid. The Hebrew calls for There is no closure Day 7. It is very literally a (evening and normal 24 hr. day. Many th morning) to the 7 day scriptures refer to The 7th so it day. The seventh day is could be billions of symbolic of Gods rest but it was a literal day in Gen. 1. years.
Were the Jews to work 6 days and take the rest of their life off?

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


Science has proven the Earth is billions of years old.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


Science has proven All evidence that says the Earth is billions of the Earth is billions of years old. years old is based on flawed logic. See Sem. 1

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


Science has proven All evidence that says the Earth is billions of the Earth is billions of years old. years old is based on flawed logic. See Sem. 1 The death before sin only indicates human death. Adams sin did not effect creation.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


Science has proven All evidence that says the Earth is billions of the Earth is billions of years old. years old is based on flawed logic. See Sem. 1 The death before sin only indicates human death. Adams sin did not effect creation.
Because of mans sin, plants grew thorns and thistles. Gen. 3:18. Abram sacrificed an innocent ram. Gen. 22. Scores of scripture references tell of natures suffering because of mans sin. Rom. 8:18-22.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


Many intelligent, godly men teach that the earth is billions of years old.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


Many intelligent, godly men teach that the earth is billions of years old.
Gods word is the judge not majority opinion. History is replete with examples where the majority has been wrong.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


Many intelligent, godly men teach that the earth is billions of years old.
Gods word is the judge not majority opinion. History is replete with examples where the majority has been wrong.

This should not be a major divisive issue.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


Many intelligent, godly men teach that the earth is billions of years old.
Gods word is the judge not majority opinion. History is replete with examples where the majority has been wrong. Then agree with me and there will be no division. Jesus always divides. See: Luke 21:51, Jn. 6:66

This should not be a major divisive issue.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


II Peter 3:8 and Psalm 90:4 indicate a day may be a thousand years.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


II Peter 3:8 and Psalm 90:4 Neither of these passages are talking about the indicate a day may be a creation. Both say thousand years. thousand not billion. Plants (day 3) cannot survive billions of years with with the sun (day 4) or insects (day 5).

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


II Peter 3:8 and Psalm 90:4 Neither of these passages are talking about the indicate a day may be a creation. Both say thousand years. thousand not billion. Plants (day 3) cannot survive billions of years with with the sun (day 4) or insects (day 5).

God was using simple language to explain the creation for a simple people.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


II Peter 3:8 and Psalm 90:4 Neither of these passages are talking about the indicate a day may be a creation. Both say thousand years. thousand not billion. Plants (day 3) cannot survive billions of years with with the sun (day 4) or insects (day 5).

God was using simple language to explain the creation for a simple people.

This assumes ancient man was dumb and we need modern Gurus to tell us what Gods Word means. (Cults get started this

Scratches on a space capsule porthole from the dust in space.

Lyttleton felt that x-rays and UV light striking exposed moon rocks could during the age of the moon be sufficient to form a layer over it several miles deep.
Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society of London Vol. 115, 1955, pp. 585-604

Issac Asimov (1959)

I get a picture, therefore, of the first spaceship, picking out a nice level place for landing purposes,

Coming in slowly downward tailfirst and sinking majestically out of sight.


Issac Asimov, Science Digest, Jan., 1959 p. 36

Childrens book about going to the moon written in 1959.

There is just deep, gray dust. Dust, dust, dust.


You Will go to the Moon by Mae
and Ira Freeman Random House

Ranger and Surveyor space programs were sent to the moon to asses the dust problem. Evolution theory cost us billions of wasted dollars.

The landing pads were added and the legs lengthened because of concerns over the predicted layer of dust.

The ladder was 18 inches too short in anticipation of a thick dust layer.

The ladder was 18 inches too short in anticipation of a thick dust layer.

See Chicago Tribune, July 21, 1969 Sec. 1, p. 1; Its a Young World after All by Ackerman, p. 19. Also In The Beginning by Walt Brown p. 213. available from
CSE.

10-4 10-8 10-12 10-16 10-20 10-24 10-28

Cumulative Meteoritic Flux vs. Particle Mass

Published data

Inferred data
10-32 10-13 10-7 10-1 105 1011 1017

Particle Mass (gm)

Only of the moon dust is from space*. The actual measured amount of dust turned out to be 2.7 inches per million years or 1033 feet in 4.6 billion years.
In the Beginning by Walt Brown p. 214. CSE $17.50 *the rest is kicked up lunar soil.

th 1/67

In 1981, I had a conversation with Dr. Herbert A. Zook of the U.S. National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). He had been intimately involved in estimating the thickness of the dust layer on the moon before the first Apollo moon landing. He also helped analyze the lunar material brought back from the moon. Of the many interesting things he told me and sent me by mail, one is critical in answering the above question.

NASA did not realize until the moon dust and rocks were analyzed that only one part in 67 (or 1.5%) of the debris on the moon came from outer space. The rest was pulverized moon rock. In hindsight, this makes perfect sense. Meteorites that strike the moon travel about seven times faster than a bullet-averaging 20 km/sec. When they strike the moon, they are not slowed down by an atmosphere (as on earth), because the moon has no atmosphere.

Therefore, the projectile, regardless of size, instantaneously vaporizes and kicks up a cloud of pulverized moon rock. The vaporized meteorite then condenses on the pulverized moon rocks. This was determined by slicing moon rocks and finding them coated by meteoritic materialmaterial rich in nickel. Uncoated moon rocks have practically no nickel. In this way, NASA arrived at the factor of 67.2
Center for Scientific Creation, In the Beginning by Walt Brown p. 214. CSE $17.50

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