You Disagree With The Pope, and Think You'Re A Catholic

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YOU DISAGREE WITH THE POPE AND THINK YOURE A ROMAN CATHOLIC; BETTER THINK AGAIN
By Ken Silva pastor-teacher on Jan 1, 2012 in AM Missives, Current Issues, Features, Roman Catholicism
See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ. (Colossians 2:8) CSM And The Rise Of Ecumenicism Based upon what Ive been receiving lately at Apprising Ministries my coverage of the alarming increase of Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism (CSM) and sinful ecumenicism in the SBC has hit a nerve. No worries here; the documentation Im presenting at this online apologetics and discernment labor in the Lord clearly show the spurious Spiritual Formation aka CSM of Living Spiritual Teacher and Quaker mystic Richard Foster and his spiritual twin SBC minister Dallas Willard has reached cult status. You think Im kidding; consider that squishy evanjellyfish in lust for the world has become quite superstitious and pietistic. As such, if Foster and Willard were to tell them that, to really experience God, the Lord now wanted people to practice rapidly hopping up and down on one foot during their time of
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Contemplative/Centering Prayer (CCP), thered be more of these neo-Gnostics than youd believe being treated for shin splints after doing so in their meditation in an altered state of consciousness. The absolute truth is, this Foster-Willardism is merely a reworked romanticized version of Roman Catholic mysticism. Well, heres something to contemplate while were in meditation: The spiritual disciplines in this evangelical fad of the CSM of Foster-Willardism led every one of those mystics to stay with the anti-gospel of Roman Catholic Church, which then anathematized Gods Gospel. What were now witnessing is the rise of pathetic Protholicsnot really Protestant, not really Roman Catholicsuch as SBCS Beth Moore Merely Pretending To Be Protestant or James Robison And Rick Warren Working To Reverse The Protestant Reformation. The sad thing is, theirs is fast becoming the prevailing view concerning apostate Roman Catholicism within mainstream evangelicalism. Do you think this is merely an intellectual decision on their part to now consider the Roman Catholic Church as a Christian denomination? Well, its not solely. This also happens to be one of the doctrines of demons advanced by demonic deceitful spirits. So is it really any wonder that we see those who dabble with, and endorse, these practices of CSM end up with a perverted view of the Church of Rome? The sinfully ecumenical neo-liberal cult of the Emergent Church aka the Emerging Church spent years bombarding evangelical Young Adult and Youth ministries with pro-Roman Catholic propaganda softening up the younger sectors of the mainstream. Its my contention that now the EC and the seeker driven attractional camps will all be pushing this ecumenicism within evangelicalism to make it an issue. In fact, it may explain things like Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism Invades Evangelicalism With Rick Warren And Kay Warren Leading The Charge and Southern Baptist Kay Warren Promoting Devout Roman Catholic Jean Vanier. Just the other day in Setting Kay Warren Straight About Roman Catholic Mystic Henri Nouwen I reminded you again that Kay Warrens especially fond of that deceased apostate. So Now Well Let The Roman Catholic Church Speak For Itself You may know that Roman Catholic mystic Henri Nouwen (1932-1996) was a leading guru of CSM, with its form of transcendental meditation commonly referred to by these spiritual adulters as Contemplative/Centering Prayer (CCP). We begin by looking at what the Church of Rome herself has to say about her infallible definitions of her dogma i.e. essential doctrines. First well examine the document Unam Sanctum a Bull of Pope Boniface VIII promulgated November 18, 1302. And this has never been changed, nor has the Roman Catholic Church ever denied it as writteneven to this day. Pope Boniface the VIII said: Urged by faith, we are obliged to believe and to maintain that the Church is one, holy, catholic, and also apostolic. We believe in her firmly and we confess with simplicity that outside of her there is neither salvation nor the remission of sins, she represents one sole mystical body whose Head is Christ and the head of Christ is God [1 Cor 11:3]. In her then is one Lord, one faith, one baptism [Eph 4:5].
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We venerate this Church [of Rome] as one, Therefore, of the one and only Church there is one body and one head, not two heads like a monster; that is, Christ and the Vicar of Christ, Peter and the successor of Peter, [the Pope] For since the Apostle said: There is no power except from God and the things that are, are ordained of God [Rom 13:1-2], Hence we must recognize the more clearly that spiritual power surpasses in dignity and in nobility any temporal power whatever, as spiritual things surpass the temporalThis authority, however, (though it has been given to man and is exercised by man), is not human but rather divine, granted to Peter by a divine word and reaffirmed to him (Peter) and his successors by the One Whom Peter confessed, the Lord saying to Peter himself, Whatsoever you shall bind on earth, shall be bound also in Heaven etc., [Mt 16:19]. Therefore whoever resists this power thus ordained by God, resists the ordinance of God [Rom 13:2],Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff. (Online source, emphasis added). This is certainly a Roman Catholic Pope speaking concerning faith and morals. The late Dr. Walter Martin who founded the Christian Research Institute was a recognized authority in the field of Comparative Religion. He informs us that this papal decree Unam Sanctam was declared by Cardinal Henry Edward Manninghimself an authority on papal bulls and decreesto be infallible and beyond all doubt an act ex cathedra.[1] Ex cathedra means that when the Roman Pontiffthe Popespeaks from the Chair of Peter, with his alleged supreme apostolic authority as the supposed Vicar of ChristHead of the universal Churchand makes a decree on faith and morals, this statement would then therefore be considered an infallible decree. And as such, Unam Sanctum has to be considered as irreformable. This is the inescapable problem for Rome. The fact is that this Bull from Pope Boniface the VIII has to be considered official dogma by the Church of Rome even to this day. Which, of course, would be understandable from the point of view of Roman Catholic theology. After-all, how could one ever change an infallible doctrine by the supreme representative of Jesus Christ on earth! So, the Church of Rome cannot change her doctrine without admitting her Popes erred. Now this would seem clear enough; but most people you are going to run into, whether they are active Roman Catholics or just cultural ones, will simply tell you that they personally dont believe all of that. And we would have no reason to doubt that this indeed may be so. However, what they dont know is that what youre looking at here is the official position of the Church of Rome; and the individual Roman Catholic does not have the freedom to deny this. Well, not if they wish to actually be Roman Catholics. First we need to make sure you understand that James Akin writing for Catholic Answers, which is actually a leading a pro-Roman Catholic apologetic organization, informs us: The anathemas do not apply today, since the 1983 Code of Canon Law (CIC) abolished the canonical penalty of anathema, which was a form of excommunication. This does not mean that the Church no longer rejects the beliefs that had been anathematized.
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The formula let him be anathema is a traditional expression that ecumenical councils used when making infallible definitions. Therefore, the dropping of the canonical penalty of anathema does not undo the infallible definitions expressed in Trents canons. An infallible definition, by its very nature, can never be undone. The Church still believes and teaches all the definitions Trent issued. (Online source, emphasis added) So the late Dr. Carl F.H. Henry a leading evangelical theologian, is actually proved right when he says, evangelicalCatholic dialogue must now begin with [the Council of] Trent. The aforementioned Council of Trent was held by the Roman Catholic Church in response to Luther and the Reformers and ran from 15451563; a span of some 18 years. This would appear to be more than enough time to make sure that you have fully formulated the doctrine of your church. In addition, it would also give one ample opportunity to be quite certain that you have then articulated it in such a way as to let people know exactly where your organization stands. Wouldnt you agree? Dr. Henry then goes on to say: The Reformers affirmed the full authority of the Bible. They were prepared to accept in Catholic tradition only what Scripture authorizes. The [Roman] Catholic church rejected the Reformation emphasis on both the Bible alone (sola scriptura) and on faith alone (sola fide). It excommunicated Luther, who sought to remain in its ranks in the interest of reform, while it accommodated critics who deplored the Roman churchs very existence. The church defended its institutional vices, many of which it later rectified or moderated. Yet the basic issue was not moral and institutional corruption alone, but the legitimacy of established and inherited church doctrine as well. In the doctrinal decrees of the Council of Trent (15451563) the Roman church officially approved and canonized the doctrine of justification by faith-and-works, and thus condemned what had earlier been one strand in its own message, justification by faith. The opportunity that the Reformers offered of a reformed church that would remain unified and universal was therefore rejected. A historic moment for theological dialogue and a major opportunity for doctrinal understanding were squandered. In consequence, evangelical-Catholic dialogue must now begin with Trent. Trent cannot be bypassed as merely the time-bound echo of one spectrum of influential Catholic dogmatics, since it expresses church doctrine that Rome identified as authoritative and irreformable. (Online source, emphasis added). The Fact Is The True Roman Catholic Must Obey The Church In closing this, for now, its important we return briefly to the subject of the individual Roman Catholic who would tell you that they do not agree with some of these so-called infallible teachings. We consider the following from the Second Vatican Council of the Church of Rome, which many are under the mistaken impression somehow changed the the RCCs views on the primacy of the Roman Pontiff and his supposed authority over all churches as well as individuals within who would be considered Christian.
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This is Pope Paul VI from November 21, 1964 in his Dogmatic Constitution Of The ChurchLumen Gentium: just as the office granted individually to Peter, the first among the apostles, is permanent and is to be transmitted to his successors, so also the apostles office of nurturing the Church is permanent, and is to be exercised without interruption by the sacred order of bishops. (14*) Therefore, the Sacred Council teaches that bishops by divine institution have succeeded to the place of the apostles, (15*) as shepherds of the Church, and he who hears them, hears Christ, and he who rejects them, rejects Christ and Him who sent Christ. (149) (16*) (Online source, emphasis added). Since the Pope is the head bishop, by this logic, if you reject his teachings then you reject Christ. No way around it; and this is from Vatican II. Further, in the current edition of New AdventThe Catholic Encyclopedia we are informed: The title pope, once used with far greater latitudeis at present employed solely to denote the Bishop of Rome, who, in virtue of his position as successor of St. Peter, is the chief pastor of the whole Church, the Vicar of Christ upon earth The primacy of St. Peter and the perpetuity of that primacy in the Roman See are dogmatically defined in the canons attached to the first two chapters of the Constitution Pastor Aeternus: [the Pope] is the supreme teacher of the [universal] Church, whose it is to prescribe what is to be believed by all the faithful, [and he] can legislate for the whole Church, with or without the assistance of a general council; (Online source, emphasis added). And then finally in the Code Of Canon Law from the official Vatican Website itself we read: Can. 212 1. Conscious of their own responsibility, the Christian faithful are bound to follow with Christian obedience those things which the sacred pastors [obviously this includes the Pope] inasmuch as they represent Christ, declare as teachers of the faith or establish as rulers of the Church (Online source, emphasis added). Can. 333 1. By virtue of his office, the Roman Pontiff not only possesses power offer (sic) the universal Church but also obtains the primacy of ordinary power offer (sic) all particular churches and groups of them. 3. No appeal or recourse is permitted against a sentence or decree of the Roman Pontiff. (Online source, emphasis added) Now these citations above are, beyond any reasonable doubt, the official declarations of the Roman Catholic Church herself. And as you can very plainly see, according to the above authoritative Church of Rome resources, no individual Roman Catholic can disagree with these dogmas and remain in good standing with this communionwell, at least on paper. So lets stop playing the word games shall we? The time has now arrived for evangelical Protestant leaders to make a firm public stand and to bring this issue to a head. Either the Church of Rome formally repents of these teachings; or, she should
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stand firmly by them. Dont you agree? And the question we should ask someone who tells us that they dont believe these teachings of the Roman Catholic Church is this: If you dont agree with these things, then why would you even want to be a Roman Catholic and waste your time and money trusting your soul to this godless organization? ___________________________________________________________________________ End notes: [1] Walter Martin, Roman Catholicism, CD Rom, available at Walter Martins Religious InfoNet. See also: THE DECEIVERS OF ROMAN CATHOLICISM BETH MOORE: GODS VISION FOR THE CHURCH INCLUDES THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH DENOMINATION RICK WARREN AND TEACHINGS OF DEMONS
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