[17.03.2009 22:03:31] Mircea Blana: Hi Wietse ! How are you ? [17.03.2009 22:03:41] Wietse Braam: hi doing fine =) [17.03.

2009 22:03:44] Wietse Braam: just finished dinner [17.03.2009 22:03:58] Mircea Blana: :) [17.03.2009 22:04:01] Mircea Blana: me too [17.03.2009 22:04:12] Wietse Braam: good so how is it going? [17.03.2009 22:04:34] Mircea Blana: also vist the website of your band [17.03.2009 22:04:40] Wietse Braam: cool =) [17.03.2009 22:04:44] Mircea Blana: ;) [17.03.2009 22:04:55] Mircea Blana: very nice [17.03.2009 22:05:20] Wietse Braam: searching for a drummer though lol [17.03.2009 22:06:42] Mircea Blana: well, saw that you got one temporarilly maybe he fit after all [17.03.2009 22:07:01] Wietse Braam: haha no he doesnt ;p he is just temproray [17.03.2009 22:07:05] Wietse Braam: different opnion on music ;) [17.03.2009 22:07:09] Wietse Braam: but still a nice guy [17.03.2009 22:13:43] Mircea Blana: hope you'll find one inspired,soon [17.03.2009 22:14:27] Mircea Blana: otherwise all good, don't miss people from Swets ? [17.03.2009 22:17:55] Wietse Braam: yeah a bit but i am so busy at my new job ;) [17.03.2009 22:23:18 | Editat 22:23:36] Mircea Blana: i'll strive to get as fast as I can solve all problems on headerdata but it's a little bit hard because I am not there [17.03.2009 22:23:38] Wietse Braam: not at the office you mean? [17.03.2009 22:23:50] Wietse Braam: you got a pc at swets datacenter? [17.03.2009 22:24:04] Mircea Blana: I mean in Netherland [17.03.2009 22:24:08] Wietse Braam: ahh ok [17.03.2009 22:24:10] Mircea Blana: :D [17.03.2009 22:24:17] Wietse Braam: well just start asking questios ill try to answer ;'p

[17.03.2009 22:26:05] Mircea Blana: If I had a person whom I can talk maybe it will be better [17.03.2009 22:26:50] Mircea Blana: yesterday I convinced Patrick getting on skype [17.03.2009 22:27:05] Mircea Blana: and today we talk o lot [17.03.2009 22:27:19] Wietse Braam: hhehe yeah skype helps [17.03.2009 22:27:24] Wietse Braam: i saw you have gmail [17.03.2009 22:27:29] Wietse Braam: i have gmail chat on on my work [17.03.2009 22:27:36] Wietse Braam: keep that inb mind [17.03.2009 22:28:01] Mircea Blana: yeah but I don't bother you so much [17.03.2009 22:28:20] Wietse Braam: ahaha if its quick questions its ok lol. [17.03.2009 22:28:33] Mircea Blana: :) [17.03.2009 22:29:16] Mircea Blana: anyway for me it's hard because I don't have the hole picture [17.03.2009 22:29:38] Wietse Braam: can imagine [17.03.2009 22:30:16] Wietse Braam: had the same problem when i joined swets. i had 2 days to transfer the knowelgde [17.03.2009 22:30:31] Wietse Braam: and also did not know perl ;p [17.03.2009 22:30:45] Mircea Blana: perl it's not the problem [17.03.2009 22:32:09] Mircea Blana: when I understood what they ask me found very fast the problem and solving [17.03.2009 22:32:33] Wietse Braam: yeah then it will help to get patrick on skype indeed he knows the process [17.03.2009 22:32:42] Wietse Braam: also paul damen knows a lot [17.03.2009 22:32:43] Wietse Braam: and dirk jan [17.03.2009 22:33:36] Mircea Blana: yeah and nanda suggest me to talk also with Chris [17.03.2009 22:34:06] Wietse Braam: yes he knows the whole process indeed after headerdata [17.03.2009 22:34:29 | Editat 22:34:37] Mircea Blana: anyway i'm not affraid I have experience but never did in this way "blindly" [17.03.2009 22:35:02] Mircea Blana: so, there is an issue pretty old

[17.03.2009 22:35:26] Wietse Braam: ok explain maybe i know ;p [17.03.2009 22:37:04] Mircea Blana: form Patrick about a publisher who wants for a list of issns the full text url to be construct differently [17.03.2009 22:37:17] Wietse Braam: ok [17.03.2009 22:37:44] Wietse Braam: so different url algorithms for different issns? [17.03.2009 22:39:06] Mircea Blana: yeah if the issn is in the list url must begin with www.expert-reviews.... instead of www.atypon... [17.03.2009 22:39:34] Wietse Braam: ok there are 2 ways of doing that. first being hardcoding that list but you dont want that as the publisher will change that url a few times a year lol. and add issn etc [17.03.2009 22:40:01] Wietse Braam: You can check how its done for highwire. For that publisher there is a more complex url.txt where you can set the url structure + ftt per issn [17.03.2009 22:40:14] Wietse Braam: its pretty easy to implements as there are already functions made for it in the libraries [17.03.2009 22:40:26] Wietse Braam: pretty much copypaste from c_translate_highwire.pl I think [17.03.2009 22:40:36] Wietse Braam: then patrick can set exactly how he wants each url for each issn [17.03.2009 22:41:12] Mircea Blana: I suspected something but was not quite sure [17.03.2009 22:41:27] Wietse Braam: ;) its been done before so should not be hard when yo ufind the piece of code [17.03.2009 22:41:36] Mircea Blana: and I was affraid for hardcoding [17.03.2009 22:42:00] Mircea Blana: ok it's enough I think [17.03.2009 22:42:01] Wietse Braam: yeah dont try to hardcode if its just 1 title you can do it but if it become more and atypon is a big publisher its better do do it like this [17.03.2009 22:42:33] Mircea Blana: yes I have this yesterday [17.03.2009 22:43:06] Mircea Blana: for some publisher they complain that the url it's not correct [17.03.2009 22:43:43] Mircea Blana: patrick check the url.txt and found it correct [17.03.2009 22:44:21] Wietse Braam: ok thats weird... yo ucould check the code if its used correctly

[17.03.2009 22:44:43] Mircea Blana: but when I checked the script there was a line hardcoded for one ISSN to make url differently [17.03.2009 22:45:09] Wietse Braam: yeah there are a few that had 1 exeption i think. My predecesser hardcoded 1 or 2 and so did i [17.03.2009 22:46:26] Mircea Blana: it's going to be a little difficult until I learn publishers [17.03.2009 22:46:50] Mircea Blana: and can associate name with folder [17.03.2009 22:47:16] Wietse Braam: yes.. you can find that list though in the .headerdatarc i believe [17.03.2009 22:47:26] Wietse Braam: might be good to print that or put it in an excel sheet [17.03.2009 22:48:42] Mircea Blana: aha ok [17.03.2009 22:49:00] Wietse Braam: there is a list of publisher with the corresponding k:\ftp\ dir [17.03.2009 22:49:07] Mircea Blana: wanted also to ask Nico for taht [17.03.2009 22:49:11] Mircea Blana: great [17.03.2009 22:49:33] Wietse Braam: but that does not convert codes like 800ROOD to a publisher name [17.03.2009 22:49:38] Wietse Braam: that hsould be checked with SSS [17.03.2009 22:49:46] Mircea Blana: yeah [17.03.2009 22:49:52] Wietse Braam: Nico can also spit names out for those from the top of his head [17.03.2009 22:50:36] Mircea Blana: for that issue with images didn't find the publisher yet [17.03.2009 22:51:07 | Editat 22:51:21] Mircea Blana: either me and nico know 900BOOMJ [17.03.2009 22:51:19] Wietse Braam: Nico should be able to find the name in SSS [17.03.2009 22:51:39] Wietse Braam: but those images should when known just be injected into d:\images ;p [17.03.2009 22:51:56] Mircea Blana: yes I saw that [17.03.2009 22:52:13] Mircea Blana: but must be prefixed with folder name of publisher [17.03.2009 22:52:34] Mircea Blana: ok

[17.03.2009 22:52:48] Wietse Braam: yes indeed [17.03.2009 22:53:05] Mircea Blana: Dirk sent me an xml file and ask me to look at it if it's correct [17.03.2009 22:53:19] Mircea Blana: I asked him in what kind [17.03.2009 22:53:24] Mircea Blana: :D [17.03.2009 22:54:27] Mircea Blana: and then he told me that it's a new publisher and if I say it's correct then he can talk to publisher to send the data [17.03.2009 22:54:33] Mircea Blana: I thought OMG [17.03.2009 22:54:40] Wietse Braam: ;p [17.03.2009 22:54:46] Wietse Braam: Just check if the basic data is in there [17.03.2009 22:55:22] Wietse Braam: vol iss issn jtl first page, pages, year (or pub date) and the basics for the url [17.03.2009 22:56:04] Mircea Blana: I can imagine that when a new publisher has come I get a lot of information [17.03.2009 22:56:26] Wietse Braam: lol no just a small xml file as an example ;p [17.03.2009 22:56:29] Mircea Blana: not just an xml file [17.03.2009 22:56:51] Wietse Braam: haha I mostly asked for a few example files and if they could give me an xsd then i would jump for joy lol. [17.03.2009 22:56:56] Wietse Braam: that last one only happened once [17.03.2009 22:56:57] Wietse Braam: hahaha [17.03.2009 22:57:43] Mircea Blana: yeah, anyway I generate the new script and runs quite well [17.03.2009 22:58:08] Mircea Blana: exemple file was very good [17.03.2009 22:58:17] Wietse Braam: cool [17.03.2009 22:58:26] Mircea Blana: but there was some extra information 3 extra tags [17.03.2009 22:58:46 | Editat 22:58:58] Mircea Blana: and I ask Dirk what I can do [17.03.2009 22:59:33] Mircea Blana: with those but he never answear [17.03.2009 22:59:38] Mircea Blana: :( [17.03.2009 22:59:45] Mircea Blana: from few days

[17.03.2009 23:00:28] Wietse Braam: if there is more info in the file then you can use just ignore it [17.03.2009 23:00:55] Mircea Blana: ok [17.03.2009 23:01:26] Mircea Blana: is that possible for me to have access to SWOC ? [17.03.2009 23:01:46] Mircea Blana: to see how data are loaded and looks ? [17.03.2009 23:01:48] Wietse Braam: yeah i had it lol [17.03.2009 23:02:13] Mircea Blana: maybe I fell it well [17.03.2009 23:02:16] Wietse Braam: Aks matthew he can give you access i think [17.03.2009 23:02:18] Wietse Braam: or chris [17.03.2009 23:02:31] Mircea Blana: ok great [17.03.2009 23:03:18] Mircea Blana: today I had an email about cover image process [17.03.2009 23:03:36] Mircea Blana: from a guy Robert Jacobs [17.03.2009 23:03:57] Mircea Blana: I think he sent it to you too [17.03.2009 23:04:35] Wietse Braam: no idea lemme check [17.03.2009 23:05:13] Wietse Braam: well no ;p prob to my swets address but thats disabled [17.03.2009 23:05:19] Mircea Blana: I undesrtood that there are o lot of complains about the fact that publishers don't see pictures [17.03.2009 23:05:43] Mircea Blana: few or not at all [17.03.2009 23:05:53] Wietse Braam: yeah well then they should sned us their pictures... [17.03.2009 23:05:54] Wietse Braam: lol [17.03.2009 23:06:06] Mircea Blana: I told Nanda and Nico [17.03.2009 23:06:10] Wietse Braam: The commercial department is not allowed to complain ;p [17.03.2009 23:06:19] Wietse Braam: they should have brouht in the images [17.03.2009 23:06:22] Wietse Braam: so far the score was [17.03.2009 23:06:23] Wietse Braam: 40 them [17.03.2009 23:06:29] Mircea Blana: I think they don't know procedures

[17.03.2009 23:06:30] Wietse Braam: 12.000 me [17.03.2009 23:06:30] Wietse Braam: lol [17.03.2009 23:07:07] Wietse Braam: I have been asking Daniel again and again during the project when PRM would come wiht images [17.03.2009 23:07:53] Mircea Blana: yeah and that misterios publisher that sent images directly to nico [17.03.2009 23:07:59] Mircea Blana: 900boomj [17.03.2009 23:08:09] Wietse Braam: grin yeah well that idea is ok though [17.03.2009 23:09:47] Mircea Blana: well very helpfull our chat [17.03.2009 23:10:07] Wietse Braam: hope so = ) [17.03.2009 23:10:30] Mircea Blana: for me indeed [17.03.2009 23:10:35] Mircea Blana: ;) [17.03.2009 23:12:08] Mircea Blana: it's some hardly weeks for me, 4 hours per day for swets, 4 hour for my last project [17.03.2009 23:12:28] Wietse Braam: arg 2 projects at the same time yeah that makes it also ahrder [17.03.2009 23:13:25] Mircea Blana: yeah and they want now in a hurry some functionality in Progress language [17.03.2009 23:14:10] Mircea Blana: and I also need to switch in the future on .Net technology [17.03.2009 23:14:17] Mircea Blana: ;) [17.03.2009 23:14:29] Wietse Braam: ;p [17.03.2009 23:14:30] Mircea Blana: for a project [17.03.2009 23:14:39] Wietse Braam: well at least your buys ;p [17.03.2009 23:14:40] Wietse Braam: busy [17.03.2009 23:14:47] Mircea Blana: :) [17.03.2009 23:15:02] Mircea Blana: but I like perl [17.03.2009 23:15:48] Wietse Braam: have the same here at ING... im in charge for installing mq 5.3 upgrade on all hpnsk machines (coordinating and testeing). Installing teh new ESB connection on Hpnsk. and at the same time i am writing the security guidlines for another product lol

[17.03.2009 23:17:42 | Editat 23:17:51] Mircea Blana: yeah and that with all new people [17.03.2009 23:19:11] Mircea Blana: don't have time to think at accomodation [17.03.2009 23:19:23] Wietse Braam: nah i have already worked at ing before i came to swets so i have a network still [17.03.2009 23:19:26] Wietse Braam: but its busy ;p [17.03.2009 23:19:40] Mircea Blana: aha [17.03.2009 23:20:35] Mircea Blana: ok wietse thanks a lot for helping me, I stop now [17.03.2009 23:21:03] Mircea Blana: I wish you luck with the band [17.03.2009 23:21:31] Wietse Braam: ok ;p just let me know when i need to swithc on skype again ;p [17.03.2009 23:22:28] Mircea Blana: okay hope that only for just talk [17.03.2009 23:22:57] Mircea Blana: have a good night [17.03.2009 23:23:03] Mircea Blana: bye [17.03.2009 23:23:10] Wietse Braam: haha we'll see ;p have a good night