AHLUSUNNAH VAL JAMAAH

Heresy and Rafidism of

Engineer Ali Mirza Jhelumi
A New Analysis
Finally some one called for his Bai’:t purporting
him a Imam.[Na’:udh:ubillah Va ‘Astagh:farullah]
Abu Muhib
01-Sep-19

Heresy of Engineer Ali Mirza Jhelumi A New Analysis. Finally some once called for his Bai’:t
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Heresy of Engineer Ali Mirza Jhelumi A New Analysis

Introduction

Engineer ‘:Ali: Mirza: is not doubt a Rafid:ite at present. But it is possible that like Mirza: Of Qa:dian ,
Mirza: of Jhelum is just using Rafid:ism for an other heresy which is greater then Ra:fid:ism and equals
to that of his predecessor Mirza: of Q:adian .

So it is necessary to study and analyze Mirza of Jhelums religious views from an other angle, which is left
aside by a number of Critics of Mirza of Jhelum.

History Of Mirza: of Jhelum:

According to the Mirza: of Jhelum he was a Barailavi for the largest period of his life. Then he became a

Deobandi for a small period, then became a ‘Ith:na: ;Ashri: for some small period.

But he did became am ‘Ahlul H:adi:th: .

Latter he became what he is as present. What he calls as a sectless ‘Isla:m and what we say that he
founded a new sect “Engineerism,Jhelumism or Alimirzaism”.

But from an other point of view he converted to Ahlul H:adi:th: Directly from Barailvism.

How ever for some short periods he might have met scolars of different sects including ‘Isra:r ‘Ah:mad.

Dispute with Zubair ‘:Ali: Zai originated when this person shewed him his Rafid:ite tendencies.

It is reported that ‘:Ali: Mirza: tricked simple minded Zubair ‘Ali: Zai who was a simple minded person.

But when Zubair ‘:Ali Zai realized that this person is actually a student of ‘Ish:aq Layallpuri: , he
separated from the Engineer of Jhelum.

After founding the new sect which he purports to be the original ;Isla:m , and did not give it a Proper
Noun , he kept on mutating .

It is said that he was sent to Shaikh: Zubair ‘:Ali: Zai by Ish:a:q Jha:lvi Ra:fid:i: to ask Zubair ‘:Ali: Zai some
problematic questions since ‘Ish:a:q Jha:livi: some how knew that Shaikh: Zuabir is a Simple minded
question who had no taste of the proper answers to his tricky questions. That is why these two are the
only persons whose videos were shewn by the Engineer of Jhelum uptil now . How ever even Shaikh:
Zubair of H:ad:ro: recognised this person and minimised his contacts with him. Finally he declared
Engineer ‘:Ali: Mirza: as useless person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSkFcdyvW2g [1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpc2UCt3JlE

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An analysis of mutations of the Engineer of Jhelum shews a new potential heresy of heresy of
Rafid:ism.

First Preliminary

Just after he founded his new sect , which we terms as Alimizaism , in this essay, Engineer of Jhelum

Began to purport that he is an ‘Ahlul H:adi:th: with some more secularity towards other sects. He
purported to follow Salafite [Salaphite] tendencies twowards in his early lectures and so called research
papers , but actually Fallacious Papers.

[From now on his papers shall be called Fallacious Papers , but the number shall be the same. For
example he paper which he calls Research Paper one shall be called Fallacious Paper one ].

He gained popularity from them.

In this period he wrote the lecture “Dua S:irf ‘All-h se” .

But very soon he began to preach that a Muslim can remain as a Muslim even if he believes in articles of
Shirk, as long as he does not call himself a Mushrik or as long as he calls himself as a Muslim, by making
false analogies from ‘Ahlul Kita:b [Kitabi ;Pl: Kitabiat].

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hirxy2aDtYw

Time :- 0:04 to 3:16

One may dispute whether a particular article of belief is Shirc/Shirk or it is not Shirl/Shirc.

But one thing is agreed upon, and this is that if a belief is Shirk then the believer who believes in the
Belief of Shirk/Shirc is a Musric/Mushrik and not a Muslim .

For example it is Shirk to believe that a person has the Essential Knowledge[‘Al ‘:Ilm ‘Adh: Dh:a:ati:] of a
single particle. So one who holds this belief is a Musric/Mushrik and a Ka:fir.Even if he does diffentiate
that Divine Knowledge is Infinite and the knowledge of the person separate from G-d [Gh:airullah] is not
only finite but of just a single particle; even then such a believer is a Mushrik and Ka:fir.

But according to the RULES of Engineer ‘:Ali: Mirza: this is a belief of Shirk but the believer in it
continues to be a Muslim. Since he is committing an interpretation that is wrong.

Following this rule Engineer ‘:Ali: Mira: did not consider Nus:airis as Ka:fir due to the reason the believe
Saiyiduna: ‘:Ali: as G-d Incarnated and Incarnated G-d but due to the reason the declare others as Ka:fir,

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For reference see page four of this essay as written in the Text of the essay twice first on the top and
second at the bottom.

Second Preliminary

He began to shew his tendencies towards Ra:fid:ism.

First he began to declare Yazi:d as a Transgressor and a Sinner. As many ‘Ahlussunnah believe that Yazi:d
was a Transgressor and a Sinner , he began to condemn those who opine that Yazi:d was not involved in
the Murder [Qatl] of Saiyuduna: H:usain RD: . But then he began to disrespect Saiyiduna: Mu’:a:viah ,
and began to disrespect other S:ah:a:bah. Then he began to declare all Sunnis who respect Saiyiduna:
Mu’:a:vah and those S:ah:a:bah RD: as N:s:ibi: . This person did not stop there . He began to disrespect
Saiyiduna: ‘:Uth: ma:n RD: .

He used Ra:fid:ism to make disrespect of some S:h:abah.

He began to say that Some S:ah:a:bah were M-na:fiq [Na’:udh:ubillah Va ‘Astagh:farullah]

Third Preliminary

He began to say that he does not declar Kh:arjites as Ka:fir.

He purports to be more against Nas:ibites then against Kh:arijites . But he did not stop there. He began
to confuse the Ijtih:ad of S:ah:a:bah and the Trangressions of Kh:arjites and Ra:fid:ites.

According to this person of Jhlum ,Saiyiduna: Mu’:aviah abd Saiyidatuna: ‘:A:’ishah WERE equal in
‘Ijtiha:d with Kh:arjites.

Forth Preliminary

Finally he came to the conclusion that if a person does declare all the first four Caliphs of ‘Isla:m from
Saiyiduna: ‘Abu Bakr RD: to Saiyiduna: ‘:Ali: RD: RD:as Ka:fir, even then such a person continues to be a
Muslim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q72iQtK4w0

Time 0:06 to 0:38

[We have taken this from Ali Navaz on Line].

A large number of Ahlussunnah do opine that as he was exposed and his Ra:fid:ism was unearthed then
to cover himself once again he said that he considers a person as Muslim who declares Saiyiduna: ‘:Ali:
as Ka:fir [‘Astagh:farfullah Va Na’:u:dh:ubillah].

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But some others have opine that now he wants to merge Kh:arijism and Rafid:ism , and to declare that
this is a True sect .

When he seconded ‘Ahlul H:adi:th: on the issue of ‘:Adamut Taqli:d , he wanted to take their
sympathies , then he seconded Barailavis on the issue that ‘:Ilm ‘Al Gh:aib is not the Incommunicable
Attribute of G-d, he wanted to take their Sympathies, then he seconded ‘Ahlussunnah Deoband Majority
on the Issue of H:-ya:tun Nabi: , he wanted to gain their sympathies , Then he seconded Ra:fid:ites to
gain their sympathies. But once he got the desired sympathies he moves on . Now he wants to get the
sympathies of Kh:arjites so he declared that it is not Kufr to declare Saiyiduna: ‘:Ali: as Ka:fir
[Na’:udh:ubillah Va ‘Astagh:farullah] .

It is implied that according to him the same opinion is true for a person who says the same thing for any
one of the ‘Saiyidatuna: Fa:t:imah RD: , Saiyiduna: H:asan RD: and SaiyidunaL H:usain RD: , or some of
them or all of them. [Na’:udh:ubillah Va ‘Astagh:farullah].

Fifth Preliminary

He says that Kufr is only to deny Qur’a:n, G-d , Prophet, ‘A:kh:irah and Qur’a:n .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q72iQtK4w0

Time: 0:22 to 0:28

This means that if some deny Entire Bu:kh:ari Shari:f, Muslim Shari:f as Concoction [Na’:udh:ubillah Va
‘Astaghfarullah] then it is not kufr.

Even if some one deny Mutva:tir H:adi:th: even then the person is not a Ka:fir according to this ‘:Ali
Mirza: Of Jhelum , since this a Mutva:tir H:adith: is neither G-d nor Prophet nor Qur’a:n . So it is a forth
thing . According to the explicit sentences of the Engineer of Jhelum there are only four things whose
denial is Kufr. Cleverly he excludes ‘Ijma:’: as well.

This means that if some one who denies a Mutva:tir H:adi:th: is also a Muslim according to this person
since he has EXPLICITLY said that the Takfi:ir can ONLY [S:irf] done of of a Person Who Denies the four
believes. This means that if some one deny any fifth thing , he continues to be a Muslim.

This is the only reason that he says that he declares Qa:dianis [Mah:mu:di Mirza:’i:] as Kafir only due to
the reason they declare ‘:A:li Mirza: as Ka:fir .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bFRkxlqGWU

[ 5:33 tp5:40]

Latter he generalized from singular to plural.

[6:60 to 6:12]

The same video mentioned immediately above.

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[It may be noted that on one hand he declares that one who declares the first four Caliphs of ‘Isla:m as
Muslim and on the other hand he opines that it is kufr to declare him and others to declare as Ka:fir]

Total discussion may be seen in the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bFRkxlqGWU

Time 5:35 to 7:09

[ Fallacious Lecture delivered on 25:12:2018 CE by Heretic ‘:Ali: Mirza: of Jhelum ].

He began to say that it is permitted to offer prayers behind Munkir of H:adi:th: .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hirxy2aDtYw

Time 5:43 to 6:27

In an other video he openly seconded Mirza:’is .

Latter this video was used by Mirzais.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICxNKMo5xZI

[Borrowed from Ali Navaz, who in turn borrowed from a Mirza Channel before criticism.

Time 0:53 to 8:31]

Fifth Preliminary

One of the Disciples of Engineer :’ Ali Mirza: asked to do Bai’:t of this Engineer:=

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edfVIjm82NA

[Time 19:32 to 21:12]

In this video uploaded by “Islamic Awareness” Sep :12: 2018 CE., Abdul Quddus Beg , Beg Mughal”.

This means that the uploader of this video claims the IMAMATE of Mirza: of Jhelum since he do not
recognise any Bai’:t except that of Imamate and Caliphate. So this is very dangerous.

The speaker of this video says that Mirza: is a believer in Kh:atm ‘An Nabu:vah, te question is whether
Mirza: is a Heretic or not? He is. He is .

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It was expected that sooner or latter either Mirza: of Jhelum himself or some one in lieu of him shall call
for his Bai”:t. Finally it is found.

So please be aware of Mirza: of Jhelum and Islamic Awareness on Youtube.

Conclusion

So this means that he is innovating a new heresy which take eighty present of its constituting material
from Ra:fid:iah and Ten present from Kh:ariah , the remaining ten present from different sects. Also
from Pervezih and Gh:a:midiah as well.

But this does not mean that he is not a Ra:fid:i: . He is still a Ra:fid:i: yet either he has made some
modification as Taqaiyah or he is following the Ra:fid:ism of ‘Ish:a:q Jha:lvi Layallpu:ri: .

Additionally it is alarming that some one probably in Lieu of him did call for his bai’:t .

It is the replica of Mirza: Gh:ula:m Qa:diani to some extent.

There are some reports in Tradition , about Sufiani: who shall go astray and shall become a Apsostate.

One may wonder how a person who shall be born as a Muslim shall become a Apostate , but a our
generation do have an example of that, and that is of Engineer Muh:ammad ‘:Ali: Mirza: of Jhelum.

From Barailvi to Deobandi, From ‘Ahlussunnah Deobandi to ‘Ith:na:’Ashri, from ‘Ith:na:’Ashri to ‘Ahlul
H:adi:th:, From ‘Ahlul H:adi:th: to the founder of his own unnamed cult .

Now his cult of which he is the Fuehrer , this cult changed into pure Rafid:ism and then he shewed his
inclinations towards different cults of Mirza:’ism, and finally some one asked for his Bai’:t, every thing
does shew that he MUST NOT BE FOLLOWED.

NB : Mirza: Jhelumi: did try to defend his views by Ta’li:q Bil Muh:a:l. This is incorrect defence and
misuse of the Principle. It shall be discussed separately Insha:’All-h.

[1] Some of the followers are now saying that this is a fake video. But it is the same voice of Zubair ‘:Ali
Zai. Also if this video is unreliablel then videos of the Engineer Kazza:b Jhelumi are more unreliable.

If videos of the Engineer in regard to Zubair ‘:Ali: Zai are reliable then this video is more reliable.

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As this video does not shew Shaikh: Zubair ‘:Ali: Zai in person , it does not imply that this is less reliable
or fake. Since know a days fake personal videos of persons are also possible. So this Engineer cannot be
defended as such.

Actually the blind followers of the Engineer believe only in the Engineer and reject all others .

Disclaimer

The basic point is to unearth the Heresy and Apostasy of Engineer ‘:Ali: Mirza: of Jhelum.

The author is not responsible for any distortion , any spelling error , any grammatical error, or any thing
else due to the errors of Typist and copyist,

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