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12. IMA personnel reported main scavenge filter element sludging and
by-passing as indicated in Table II. Through follow-up investigation
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15. A lube oil sampling program on the J79-GE-10 engine (in the F-4
aircraft) was initiated, with Fighter Squadron One Hundred-One (VF-101),
in January 1972. This program started with five F-4 aircraft (ten
engines) being placed on a sampling interval of fifty hours without oil
drain. In all, 38 samples were received from VF-101 with time since
last oil change ranging from 22 to 406 hours and total operating time
ranging from 243 zo 1081 hours. These samples were analyzed for changes
in physical and chemical properties. The engi'es sarnled were nut all
low time engines. The reason for this situation is that it was decided,
at the initiation of the program, that engines with both high and low
operating times would be sampled in order to determine lubricant property
changes in the to:al operating range of service engines. As the program
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16. Viscosities and Total Acid Numbers (TAN's) were used as the measure
of the degree of change in the physical and chemical properties,
respectively, of the oil. Viscosities and TAN's were used because they
are the primary indicators of thq degree of lubricant degradation.
18. Although the physical and chemical properties of the used oil frou
the program engines indicated that the oil had not degraded significantly,
it was considered desirable to determine the margin of stability of the
used oil. This would indicate the remaining useful life of the oil.
Therefore, the oxidative stability and deposition characteristics of the
used oil samples from the program engines, were evaluated by means of
the 400'F Oxidation-Corrosion test and the High Temperature Deposition
(HTD) test, respectively. These are laboratory and bench type tests
that evaluate the lubricants resistance to oxidation and corrosive
affect on various metals at elevated temperatures and the deposit forming
tendencies of the lubricant at elevated temperatures.
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intermediate operating times (i.e. more than 98 hours, but less than
335 hours). Table III shows the results of this testing.
21. HTD tests were conducted on 406 hour and 335 hour program samples.
The results of these tests are compared to new oil results in Table IV.
The test on the 406 hour sample was conducted first because this was
the high time program sample. The results obtained on this test
indicated that the deposition characteristics of the 406 hour sample
significantly degraded from that of the new oil. It was therefore
decided that another HTD test would be conducted on a program sample were
with fewer operating hours. The results of the test conducted on
the 335 hour sample indicated that its deposition characteristics
did not vary significantly from the values obtained for the new oil.
Therefore, this sample would be considered to possess the deposition
characteristics of new oil, and was capable of at least another 335
hours of engine operation. In contrast, the 406-hour sample was not
capable of another 406 hours of engine operation. It can be noted
from the results (viscosity and TAN change) of Table IV that the
stabi'ity of the oil in both tests, after the HTD test, had not been
compromised. These data indicate that extending oil drain intervals
to 600 hours would not increase engine deposits.
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