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Complaint No. File Number
0s-0157-955
REPORTING
OFFICER: Cpl. Leslie Lemieux
REPORTING
PERSON: Karen M. Halbach
DOB ru07l56
W3559 CTH B
Hilbert, WI54129
Phone: 920-989-1098
SUSPECT:
CITIZEN
CONTACT: Thomas E. Pearce
DOB 10/05/48
1707 Woodberry Terrace
Green Bay, WI54313
Phone: 920-434-3004
Scott A. Bloedorn
DOB lll02l79
W3637 CTH B
Hilbert, WI54129
Phone: 920-989-2911
DATE/TIME OF OCCURRENCE:
LOCATION:
At approximately 1700 hours on 11/03i05, I (Cpl. LESLIE LEMIEUX of the CALUMET CO.
SHERIFF'S DEPT.) began the initial investigation of a possible missing person. The reporting
person, KAREN HALBACH, said that her daughter, TERESA MARIE HALBACH, had not
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been seen or heard from since Monday, 10i31/05. KAREN said that it was unusual for TERESA
to not have had personal or phone contact with her family or friends for this length of time.
KAREN said that she had been calling around to TERESA's employers and friends. KAREN
said that her daughter worked as a freelance photographer out of PEARCE PHOTOGRAPHY, a
photo studio in Green Bay. KAREN said that TERESA was also employed as a photographer
for AUTO TRADER magazine. KAREN said the last time TERESA was seen at the photo
studio was on Saturday. KAREN said the supervisors at the AUTO TRADER magazine said the
last contact with TERESA was a fax confirmation for her workdav. which was received on
r0l3U0s.
KAREN said TERESA lives with a roommate who is SCOTT BLOEDORN aIW3631 CTH B,
Township of Woodville. KAREN said the last time SCOTT had seen TERESA at home was on
Sunday afternoon. SCOTT had not seen or heard from TERESA since. SCOTT told KAREN
that TERESA's vehicle was not at the residence either.
I spoke with SCOTT by phone. SCOTT said that the last time he had seen or heard from
TERESA was on Sunday afternoon at the house. SCOTT said TERESA made no mention of any
plans to go out of town and although she worked out of Green Bay, did normally commute and
stay at the residence on CTH B. SCOTT said it was unusual for TERESA to be gone like this
without letting anyone know. SCOTT said that TERESA did have a lot of friends in the Green
Bay area.
I spoke with TERESA's supervisor ANGELA SCHUSTER at the AUTO TRADER magazine by
phone. SCHUSTER said that the last contact she had with TERESA was a fax received of her
workday on 10/31/05. SCHUSTER said the timestamp she could find on the fax indicated 0013
hours. ANGELA said that she knew from the fax that TERESA had rescheduled some of her
Saturday appointments for Monday. ANGELA said she was aware of several photo shoot
appointments that were scheduled for Monday. ANGELA said there was a photo shoot
scheduled with a CRAIG SIPPEL from New Holstein, a B. JANDA from Two Rivers and a
GEORGE ZIPPERER of Manitowoc. ANGELA said that she did not know whether TERESA
made all those scheduled appointments at this time as she had not received a fax confirmation
from TERESA as of yet. ANGELA said that TERESA was notified ofjobs by phone and most
of the communication was by phone or fax. ANGELA said she did not have contact with
TERESA on a daily basis, only as appointments were scheduled. ANGELA said that she was
waiting for a call back from the appointments to see if they had indeed been completed.
ANGELA said she would have become concerned by tomorrow if she had still not heard
any.thing from TERESA. ANGELA said TERESA did have scheduled appointments for photo
shoots for the AUTO TRADER magazine today. ANGELA said in checking those appointments
she was told that TERESA did not show up. ANGELA said they had not received any call or
notice from TERESA that she would not be making those appointments today.
I notified Inv. WEIGERT of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. of the situation. Inv.
WIEGERT and I responded to TERESA's residence and spoke with TERESA's roommate,
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SCOTT, and her parents. They said that TERESA did not have a current boyfriend or any recent
ex-boyfriend. They said they had been making contact with TERESA's friends by phone and no
one had had any contact with her.
SCOTT allowed us to enter the residence and showed us TERESA's room. SCOTT and several
of their mutual friends had located TERESA's most recent cell phone activity report on her
computer. They printed a copy for us, which showed the last cell phone activity at 2:27 p.m. on
Monday, 10131105. It appeared when looking at the minutes used history that TERESA had
made phone calls to each of her appointments prior to her arrival that day.
I called TERESA's cell phone number 920-727 -47 31. The phone went instantly to a voicemail
with a message indicating that her voicemail was full. TERESA's family said that TERESA had
only one cell phone that she used for personal and business use.
We located several credit card and banking statements, a current photograph and a personal
joumal for TERESA, which were turned over to us. SCOTT also allowed us to collect
TERESA's computer, which he said was hers, alone. SCOTT showed me her hairbrush, which I
then collected a small sample of hair from the brush for possible DNA if needed.
I had left a phone message with the phone number from the GEORGE ZIPPERER appointment
requesting that he contact me. I did call the ZIPPERER residence again and spoke with a male
subject who identified himself as GEORGE ZIPPERER. I explained the reason for my call, and
ZIPPERER immediately raised his voice saying that the AUTO TRADER had trespassed on his
property and he did not want any more calls from them. ZIPPERER said he was going to contact
an attomey if these calls continued.
I asked GEORGE if he had made an appointment for a photo shoot to sell a vehicle with AUTO
TRADER. GEORGE said no he did not. GEORGE said that would have been his son. I asked
GEORGE if it would be possible to speak with his son. GEORGE said he didn't know where he
was. I asked GEORGE if his son lived there and he said yes. GEORGE said he works 24 hours
a day and maybe talks to his son once a month. GEORGE said his son didn't have a cell phone
and he did not know how to contact him. GEORGE said he thought his son was headed to
Alaska to look for a job. GEORGE said he was going to head to Alaska next month to do the
same. GEORGE said his son works all the time too. GEORGE said the AUTO TRADER had
been calling them and he did not request their services. GEORGE said he thought that they must
be con arlists. I asked GEORGE if he knew whether or not the photographer had shown up on
Monday and was indeed on his property. GEORGE said he wasn't sure but he assumes so
because he saw an AUTO TRADER magazine on the kitchen table. GEORGE was unwilling to
give me his personal information or his son's. I asked GEORGE how to spell his last name and
he spelled itZIZOF*E I asked GEORGE for his date of birth and he said he forgot it. GEORGE
then said that I had caught him on a bad day. GEORGE said that I had now upset his dog, which
I could hear barking in the background. GEORGE told me that it was a mean dog and anybody
who came on his property better watch out cause it could eat them starling with the feet.
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GEORGE said he worked hard and did not have time for this. GEORGE said someone was
driving up his driveway now and he had to go. I asked GEORGE to contact me if he had any
further information.
An Attempt to Locate was issued for TERESA HALBACH and her vehicle, a 1999 Toyota
RAV4, dark green, Registration #SWH582, registered to TERESA. TERESA was also entered
as a missing person. The local news media was notified. They assisted in broadcasting the
Attempt to Locate for TERESA on the nightly news broadcast.
At approximately 0030 hours on 11104105, I received a phone call from TERESA's coworker at
PEARCE PHOTOGRAPHY. I spoke with the photo studio owner THOMAS PEARCE.
THOMAS said that the last time he saw TERESA was at the studio on Saturday. PEARCE said
that both he and TERESA did freelance photography. He said TERESA was not as much of an
employee but coworker, independent photographer. PEARCE said TERESA did not work at the
studio every day. PEARCE said TERESA had worked there for the last three to four years.
PEARCE said he became concerned today as he had not seen or heard from her since Saturday.
PEARCE said he had expected her to at least stop by Wednesday moming, as she was a member
of a ladies business group. PEARCE said it was unlike TERESA not to stop in or at least call
every few days. PEARCE said TERESA had always called if she was going to be out of town or
unavailable for work. PEARCE did say that TERESA had mentioned to him several odd
occulrences while working for the AUTO TRADER magazine. He said TERESA told him she
had some problems with male clients over the summer after the photo shoot; and while filling out
paperwork and taking payment, she often was invited into the homes. He said TERESA said
some males become verbally or physically flirtatious offering her drinks, etc. PEARCE said that
he had warned her to be careful, being alone and often times in rural areas. PEARCE did say
TERESA had mentioned she had been receiving multiple calls, from an unfamiliar number, to
her cell phone recently. The caller would never leave a message. PEARCE said as far as he
knew, TERESA had not answered any of those calls and did not know the caller. PEARCE said
he remembered one day her commenting when the phone rang, again the same number, they just
called five minutes ago. PEARCE said TERESA said she did not recognizethe number and did
not answer.
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Complaint No. File Number
05-01s7-955
Karen M. Halbach
DOB 11/07/56
W3559 CTH B
Hilbert, WI 54129
Telephone number: 920-989-1098
Thomas A. Halbach
DOB 0ut2t62
W3559 CTH B
Hilbert, WI 54129
Telephone number: 920-989-1098
Scott A. Bloedorn
DOB tu02t79
W3637 CTH B
Hilbert. Wl 54129
Telephone number: 920-989-2911
Craig J. Sippel
DOB 05/06/62
612 Fond du Lac Street
Mt. Calvary, WI 53057
Telephone number: 920-753-5676
Steven P. Schmitz
DOB lln3t6l
N253 CTH A
New Holstein, WI 53061
Telephone number: 920-894-3912
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When Cpl. LEMIEUX arrived, she informed me that TERESA HALBACH had been reported as
missing by her mother, KAREN. Cpl. LEMIEUX also informed me she had already spoken with
ANGELA SCHUSTER from the AUTO TRADER magazine who gave her three names of
appointments that TERESA was supposed to be at on Monday. Cpl. LEMIEUX gave me the
names of CRAIG SIPPEL, B. JANDA and GEORGE ZIPPERER as people that TERESA was to
meet with on Monday.
At approximately 1755 hours, I did make contact with CRAIG SIPPEL. CRAIG stated they, in
fact, had contacted AUTO TRADER magazine to take pictures of a car he and his friend,
STEVEN SCHMITZ, had for sale. CRAIG states the vehicle, which was for sale, was located at
STEVEN's residence in the Village of St. Anna. CRAIG said he did not talk with the
photographer or see the photographer that day and gave me the name of STEVEN SCHMITZ
and told me I should contact STEVEN. That was the end of my conversation with CRAIG.
At approximately 1800 hours, I did make phone contact with STEVEN P. SCHMITZ. STEVEN
states he and CRAIG have a car they own together and were selling through the AUTO
TRADER magazina According to STEVEN, he received a phone call from TERESA
HALBACH at approximately 1:10 p.m. on Monday,10131/05. STEVEN told me TERESA
arrived at his residence at N253 CTH A, New Holstein, between the hours of 1:30 p.m. and 1 :45
p.m. on Monday, I0l3Il05. STEVEN told me she was driving a blue SUV possibly something
like a Pathfinder. He told me the vehicle looked very new. I asked STEVEN what the
photographer, TERESA, would have been wearing. He stated she was wearing blue jeans, a
white button down shirt with a summer jacket, unknown color. STEVEN states TERESA took
pictures of the vehicle that he and CRAIG had for sale and he wrote her out a check. STEVEN
states TERESA got back in her vehicle and the last time he saw her she was headed nodh on
CTH A.
I asked STEVEN if there was anything unusual about TERESA when he spoke with her. He
stated there was not and she had just taken the pictures and had left. That was the end of my
contact with STEVEN.
Cpl. LEMIEUX and I then responded to TERESA's residence at the address of W3637 CTH B.
Upon arrival, we were let into the residence, which SCOTT and TERESA rent. SCOTT states he
had talked to TERESA last on Sunday afternoon, 10130105, at about 2:00 p.m. I asked him what
they had talked about to which SCOTT stated they talked about the Halloween parties they had
both attended over the weekend. I asked SCOTT if she had talked about what she was going to
be doing on Halloween, the 31", to which SCOTT stated she did not mention anything to him.
SCOTT states they are just roommates and they do not check in with each other and only talk if
they happen to meet each other in the house. He states they basically both live their own lives
out ofthat house.
I asked SCOTT if TERESA had a boyfriend to which SCOTT stated she did not. SCOTT has
lived with TERESA for approximately eight or nine months. He did state to me he does not
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remember TERESA ever being gone overright; and her not being there since Monday, is very
out of character for her. He also stated he noticed on Tuesday TERESA's truck was also not
anywhere to be found at the house.
I asked SCOTT what he thinks might have happened to which SCOTT states he really does not
know, he just knows that this is out of character. He was thinking that maybe she had met a guy
when she was out over the weekend; however, she did not mention that when he last spoke with
her.
SCOTT did tell me that he was aware that on Saturday night, TERESA had been at a Halloween
party in Green Bay. He also stated TERESA hangs out in Green Bay a lot and has a lot of
friends from Green Bay.
I asked SCOTT if TERESA was on any medications that he was aware of to which he stated he
did not believe so. He also stated TERESA was always in good spirits and this would be very
out of character for her to be gone this long and not notify somebody. He also told me TERESA
is very tight with her family.
I then briefly met with TERESA's parents, KAREN and THOMAS HALBACH. Both KAREN
and THOMAS also informed me this was very out of character for TERESA to be gone this long
without notifying somebody. KAREN stated TERESA is very family oriented and she also
coaches volleyball for SACRED HEART CATHOLIC SCHOOL. Both the parents, THOMAS
and KAREN, gave us permission to go in and search TERESA's bedroom for any clues as to
where she might have gone at that time.
It should be noted SCOTT and several of TERESA's friends had also arrived at the scene at that
time. They did print us a copy of TERESA's cell phone activity from TERESA's computer. It
should be noted TERESA would use CINGULAR WIRELESS as her cellular phone provider.
TERESA's phone number for her cell phone would be 920-737-4731. The last phone call listed
on TERESA's account would have been on 10/31/05 at 2:27 p.m. It indicates it is an incoming
phone call from 414-425-8772. In doing a reverse directory on that phone number, it came back
to AUTO TRADER magazine. A second last phone call on 10131105 would have been at 2:13
p.rn. and was to voice mail at the number 414-534-0037. The third last phone call on 10131105
would have been to a Manitowoc number,92O-682-5719. In doing a reverse directory, it came
back to a GEORGE ZIPPERER. The fourth last phone call on 10/31/05 would have been at
12:51 p.m. to a Kiel phone number of 920-894-3972, which would come back to a STEVEN
SCHMITZ. The fifth last phone call at 12:44 p.m. would be an incoming from the phone
number 920-254-6635, unknown at that time whose phone number that would have been. The
sixth last phone number would have been aL 12:39 p.m. on l0l3ll05 to 414-534-0037, which
indicates it was to voice mail. The next previous phone call would have been on 10/31105 at
Il:43 a.m. to 920-755-8715. which lists to a STEVEN AVERY.
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We were allowed to take several items from TERESA's residence by her roommate, SCOTT,
and TERESA's parents. We did take a cunent photograph, several credit card and banking
statements and a personal journal belonging to TERESA. The final item, which we had taken,
was hair from a hairbrush, which SCOTT had stated to us was TERESA's hairbrush. The hair
would have been taken into custody and placed under Property Tag No. 7826. The personal
journal, which we had collected, was placed under Property Tag No. 7824. The financial records
were placed under Property Tag No. 1825.
At that time, I contacted the MANITOWOC COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT and spoke
with Sgt. ANDREW COLBORN. I informed Sgt. COLBORN we were investigating a missing
person's complaint. I also informed Sg1. COLBORN that we had two residences we would like
to have checked, one being the STEVEN AVERY property and the second one being the
GEORGE ZIPPERER property. Sg1. COLBORN indicated to me he would go over and attempt
contact with Mr. AVERY.
I also received a phone call from Manitowoc County Lt. JIM LENK. I informed him of the
situation. Lt. LENK informed me he would call some people in and assist us in the investigation.
At that time, I did contact lnv. DEDERING who went to MANITOWOC COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT and then eventually met with GEORGE ZIPPERER. For more infotmation on
that, please see Inv. DEDERING's report.
I did receive a phone call back from Sgt. COLBORN indicating he, in fact, had spoken with
STEVEN AVERY. Sgt. COLBORN informed me STEVEN had told him TERESA had shown
up on Monday afternoon and took some pictures of his van that was for sale. He also informed
me STEVEN was not sure on what day it was and did not know what time TERESA had shown
up at his residence. Sg1. COLBORN also informed me the B. JANDA information would be
STEVEN's sister, BARBARA JANDA, and she would live right next door to STEVEN. That
was the end of my conversation with Sgt. COLBORN.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
FoneFinder.com, an Internet service, indicated that the phone number was originally a
VERIZON WIRELESS number.
At 1750 hrs., I did contact VERIZON WIRELESS after determining through FoneFinder.com
that TERESA's cellular number was issued by VERIZON WIRELESS. I questioned VERIZON
as to whether they could "ping" in an attempt to determine the location of the phone. I was
advised that the phone number is no longer an active account, and they were unable to provide
me with who the telephone number is "ported" to. I was advised to contact 866-245-9007 as
they could possibly give me fuither information on this. I was also advised that
yellowpages.com could possibly provide me with the curent provider of service for the phone
number listed to TERESA HALBACH.
At 1800 hrs., I was advised by Cpl. LEMIEUX that she had determined that TERESA
HALBACH's cellular number may have been "porled" to CINGULAR WIRELESS. I did
contact CINGULAR at 866-246-4852. I was advised that they do curently provide cellular
service for TERESA HALBACH at the phone number listed. I questioned the representative I
spoke with as to whether we could get the phone number "pinged" and the representative advised
that this could possibly be done by contacting CINGULAR WIRELESS legal deparlment at 800-
635-6840. I contacted the phone number provided and was advised that CINGULAR does not
have the technology to "ping" a phone. I was told that the only way we could possibly determine
the location of Ms. HALBACH's cellular phone would be if she were placing an outgoing phone
all or receiving an incoming phone call and that would allow CINGULAR's technology to locate
the tower she was callins from.
I was advised that any other information regarding TERESA HALBAH's cellular phone records
would have to be obtained via Subpoena or court order. The individual I spoke with (DEANNA)
indicated that I should fax the court order or Subpoena to 888-938-4715 and to mark the
Subpoena "urgent." DEANNA also indicated that I should recontact the legal department to
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advise them that the Subpoena is en route. She did indicate that I could possibly facilitate this
matter by marking the Subpoena 'oexigent."
I did an Intemet search for the numbers and discovered that 920-405-1998 (the call placed at
l1:31 a.m.) came back to a DANIEL MORROW, 3030 Sonoran Ct., Green Bay, WI 54313. I
was unable to locate any information for the 920-360-2455 exchange.
The 920-7 55-871 5 listed to a THOMAS JANDA , 12930 Avery Rd., Two Rivers, WI 54241 .
The phone call placed to the Kiel exchange (920-894-3912) at 2:57 hrs., listed to a STEVEN and
LINDA SCHMITZ, N253 CTH A, New Holstein, WI.
The outgoing call (placed in the Manitowoc exchange 920-682-7 519) at 2:12 p.m.listed to
ZIPPERER HOME IMPROVEMENT, 4433 CT}f B, Manitowoc, WI.
I was unable to get any information from the lnternet on the last incoming call 414-425-8712.
Shortly after speaking with CINGULAR WIRELESS, Inv. WIEGERT requested that I proceed
to MANITOWOC SHERIFF's DEPT. in an attempt to contact the last two subscribers to the last
two phone numbers she had placed calls. Apparently, it had been determined that Ms.
HALBACH had contacted the SCHMITZ residence, had performed some photography work,
and had left the SCHMITZ residence.
Investigation continues.
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Inv. WIEGERT informed me TERESA HALBACH was a freelance photographer who worked
for AUTO TRADER magazine. Information obtained through AUTO TRADER was that
TERESA HALBACH had three photo shoots on Monday,10131/05. One of the photo shoots
was in the Kiel area and two were in the Mishicot area. Inv. WIEGERT was able to confirm the
photo shoot in the Kiel area and was still attempting to determine if she had made the photo
shoots in the Mishicot area. One of the photo shoots in the Mishicot area was at the GEORGE
ZIPPERER residence and the second photo shoot was to be at the AVERY's AUTO SALVAGE
yard.
Inv. WIEGERT was inquiring if information could be given to the Green Bay TV stations for
airing on their late news broadcast. I responded to the sheriffls department where I scanned a
photo of TERESA HALBACH into my computer. I then placed phone calls to the TV stations
and they agreed to broadcast the information pertaining to our missing person, TERESA
HALBACH. The TV stations were provided with TERESA's personal identification as well as
information pertaining to the vehicle she was last known to be driving. I also e-mailed a photo
of TERESA to the TV stations.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
I learned that Sgt. COLBORN had been to the address of THOMAS JANDA (12930 Avery Rd.,
Two Rivers) and had spoken with an individual known to him as STEVEN AVERY. Apparently
COLBORN leamed that AVERY's sister, BARBARA, is maried to Mr. JANDA. COLBORN
learned that AVERY was attempting to assist his sister, BARBARA JANDA, in selling a vehicle
of some soft, and that AVERY was going to adverlise this vehicle in the "AUTO TRADER"
magazine that Ms. HALBACH works for. AVERY had indicated to Sgt. COLBORN that the
individual who had been scheduled to take the photographs had done so, but AVERY could not
recall whether the photographer had gotten there in the late morning or the afternoon.
COLBORN leamed that, according to AVERY, the photographer had left the Avery Rd. address
and had gone on, possibly to another area.
It was determined that the voice mail box for TERESA HALBACH's cellular phone was
apparently fu1l, as the phone rang directly to voice mail.
I did request information on GEORGE ZIPPERER, who lives at 4433 CTH B, Manitowoc and is
one of the other last outgoing phone numbers called by TERESA HALBACH. I learned that Mr.
ZIPPERER's only real arrest incident of note was a domestic violence situation in2002.
At2025 hrs. (approximately), Det. REMIKER did contact a representative of the STATE OF
WISCONSIN CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION (DCD. Apparently, the representative attempted
to contact TERESA HALBACH's cell phone and Det. REMIKER advised me that the call went
directly to voice mail.
A call was then placed to Inv. WIEGERT. WIEGERT indicated that the AUTO TRADER
magazine received a fax from TERESA HALBACH in the early morning hours of 10/31/05.
The phone number listed on the printed portion of the facsimile showed that the facsimile was
sent from 920-435-1367. WIEGERT advised me that this is normally done at the end of the day
by TERESA.
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WIEGERT went on to indicate that TERESA had told a secretary frorn the AUTO TRADER
magazine that TERESA had been at the Two Rivers address on one previous occasion and that
the individual who had her come out to photograph vehicles had answered the door wearing only
a towel.
WIEGERT went on to indicate that TERESA has quite a large group of friends in Green Bay, but
has no steady boyfriend.
WIEGERT indicated that TERESA was supposed to work today, however, missed appointments,
which is very unlike her.
Prior to proceeding to the ZIPPERER residence, Det. JACOBS from the MANITOWOC
SHERIFF's DEPT. did make contact with AMERITECH SECTJRITY regarding the
920-435-1367 phone number. Det. JACOBS learned that the phone number was a Green Bay
based AMERITECH number, and he contacted AMERITECH ISECURITY regarding the
number. All he was able to learn was that the number was no l,rnger in service.
At 2111 hrs., I received another phone call from Inv. WIEGERT who indicated that he had tried
the 920-435-1361 number and learned that it had been disconnected.
At2115 hrs., while at the MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF's DE.PT., I received a telephone call
from Inv. WIEGERT indicating that he had spoken with a representative from AUTO TRADER
and that the AUTO TRADER had spoken with GEORGE ZIPPERER and it was determined
fuither that TERESA HALBACH had been at the ZIPPERER residence.
Investigation continues.
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Angela M. Schuster
DOB 09/06/64
5300 S. 108th Street
Hales Corners, WI 53130
Telephone number: 414-587-8675
Cell Phone z 414-587 -097 5
I informed ANGELA we were reviewing TERESA's phone records and there was an incoming
call at 2:27 p.m. on 10/31/05 from the phone number of 414-425-8772, the AUTO TRADER
magaztne. ANGELA stated it was possibly a voice mail message that was left for TERESA but
she is not sure. She states they commonly call their photographers and leave them messages on
their voice mail about appointments that are to be done.
ANGELA states she thought something was odd because on Monday she received a fax from
TERESA from the number of 920-435-1367. In checking that phone number, it comes back to a
Green Bay address. For more information on that, please see Inv. DEDERING's report.
ANGELA states she thought it was odd receiving that fax because she would assume it would
have come the day after TERESA's assignments were completed but there was nothing on the
fax indicating TERESA had done her Monday jobs. In checking the time on the fax, the fax
would have come in the early moming of Monday and TERESA would not have completed the
other photo shoots set for Monday at that time.
ANGELA did tellme TERESA had confided in some people at the AUTO TRADER magazine
when she (meaning TERESA) had been at STEVEN AVERY's residence on a prior occasion, he
had come out of the house trailer to meet her wearing nothing but a towel.
ANGELA did tellme there were two appointments set up for TERESA on 11/03/05 and
TERESA did not show up for either of those appointments. ANGELA also informed me she had
spoken with GEORGE ZIPPERER, one of TERESA's appointments for Monday, and GEORGE
had confirmed to her TERESA, in fact, had shown up and taken the picture, which she was
supposed to do. I informed ANGELA I would like to get a copy of TERESA's last fax to her
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and any other information she could provide me about TERESA's appointments in that
timeframe.
ANGELA also provided me with the name of DAWN PLISZKA who works for the AUTO
TRADER magazine and makes a lot of the phone calls. That was the end of my conversation
with ANGELA.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Thursday,71103105 at approximately 2140 hrs., Det. REMIKER, Sg1. COLBORN and myself
(Inv. DEDERING) did attempt to make contact at the residence of GEORGE ZIPPERER located
at 4433 CTH B, Manitowoc, WI.
We initially received no response to our repeated knocks at the door. MANITOWOC CO.
DISPATCH was advised to place calls to the phone number for the ZIPPERERS and they
indicated that they reached an answering machine. I also attempted to contact the ZIPPERER
residence via cellular ohone and obtained the same results.
GEORGE B. ZIPPERER
DOB jslt6l40
4433 CTH B
Manitowoc, WI
Phone 920-682-5719
GEORGE was extremely belligerent initially, and it was my impression that he was apparently
intoxicated. GEORGE indicated to me that the person from the AUTO TRADER had been at his
residence, and that he wanted her arrested. He indicated that she had no permission to be on his
property, and therefore, she was trespassing. GEORGE continued in a boisterous manner even
after I advised him that TERESA HALBACH had been reported as a missing person, and that his
telephone number was one of the last numbers she had placed outgoing telephone calls to from
her cellular phone.
I also spoke with GEORGE's son, JASON W. ZIPPERER,09114187, same address and phone.
He indicated that he had advertised a'77 Pontiac Firebird for sale, but to his knowledge, he had
not made any contact with the AUTO TRADER to have it advertised. JASON ZIPPERER
indicated that he attends LINCOLN HIGH SCHOOL, Manitowoc, WI, and that he was there the
entire day on Monday, 10/31 . He further indicates that he attends LTC in Cleveland on
Tuesdays.
During this time, he did walk me out to the'77 Firebird that he had for sale. He indicated that
this vehicle was located south of the ZIPPERER residence and it was somewhat concealed by
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trees. JASON indicated the vehicle could be seen from the road, and when I looked backwards
towards the road, I determined that this, in fact, was the case.
I asked JASON and GEORGE whether either of them had made contact with the AUTO
TRADER to schedule a photography shoot of the vehicle. JASON indicated he did not and
GEORGE further denied calling the AUTO TRADER magazine.
I did address statements made apparently by GEORGE to Cpl. LEMIEUX (see LEMIEUX's
detailed report for information conceming this). GEORGE indicated that he had, in fact, told
Cpl. LEMIEUX that his son, JASON, was on his way to Alaska to find work. ZIPPERER
indicated that he does this to "have a little fun" when people who he does not know call his
phone.
At 2153 hrs., I was allowed into the ZIPPERER residence. I did review voice mail messages left
on the answering machine and Caller IDs. I did locate a Caller ID entry on 10/3 1105 at 2:12 p.m.
from phone number 920-731-47 31 . I recognized this as being the cellular phone number of
TERESA HALBACH.
I did review the voice mail messages and did locate a voice mail message from TERESA
HALBACH indicating that she was calling on Monday about 2:15 p.m. She stated she was in
the neighborhood, and that she was trying to photograph a 1977 Pontiac Firebird. She stated that
she was having problems finding the residence and hoped to do so in the next few minutes.
I had been allowed access to the residence by both JO ELLEN ZIPPERER and GEORGE
ZIPPERER.
It should be noted that this voice mail message or answering machine message was subsequently
copied by Det, JACOBS on Sunday,11106105.
In speaking with JO ELLEN NMI ZIPPERER, DOB 07115/46, she stated she was in the
backyard and apparently missed the telephone call that Ms. HALBACH placed. She stated
sometime in the afternoon, a young lady did come to the residence and advised that she was from
the AUTO TRADER and was there to photograph a vehicle. She indicated she gave the young
lady directions to where the car described as a 1977 Firebird had been located, and the girl had
come back between five and ten minutes later indicating that she had gotten her pictures. JO
ELLEN ZIPPERER advised the girl was happy and smiling. Ms. ZIPPERER indicated that she
did not see what vehicle, if any, the young lady had arrived in, nor could she tell me whether the
young lady had arrived by herself or with someone else. JO ELLEN indicate she could not
determine which direction the young lady traveled on CTH B when she left as she had never
actually seen the vehicle the young lady arrived in.
JO ELLEN and GEORGE did provide me with a copy of an AUTO TRADER magazine, which
had been left by the photographer, along with some pricing information and a yellow sign
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indicating "For Sale as Advertised in AUTO TRADER." I thanked the ZIPPERERS for their
information and left the residence. These items were subsequently placed into evidence.
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Dawn N. Pliszka
DOB 06t05t71
14774 W. Hidden Creek Ct.
New Berlin, WI 53146
Telephone number: 262-244-6399
DAWN states she, in fact, had talked with TERESA on Monday morning, i0/31/05. DAWN
states they had received a phone call from somebody who identified himselfTherself as B.
JANDA. DAWN states she knows the JANDAS are basically the AVERY brothers. She states
they have done work for them before and she does not know why they give the name of B.
JANDA.
DAWN further stated she had called TERESA in the aftemoon. she believes. but she is not sure
if she actually talked to TERESA or if she left her a message on her voice mail. DAWN states
she makes a lot of phone calls during the day and does not remember. DAWN did tell me she
commonly leaves messages for her photographers on their voice mail for appointments they are
suppose to go out on. She did state when she had talked to TERESA, TERESA had told her she
was going to go out to the AVERY property to take the photo. DAWN states TERESA seemed
fine on the phone when she had spoken with her. DAWN states TERESA always seems to be a
pretty upbeat person when she speaks with her and does not know of any type of problems that
TERESA would have.
DAWN did tell me TERESA had confided in her about STEVEN AVERY on one prior
occasion. She states STEVEN had come out of the house wearing nothing but a towel one time
and TERESA was somewhat concerned by that.
I asked DAWN if TERESA had ever been to the GEORGE ZIPPERER residence before.
DAWN stated she did not believe so and TERESA had never mentioned anything about the
ZIPPERERS. That was the end of my phone conversation with DAWN.
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Daniel S. Morrow
DOB 05/05/84
3030 Sonoran Ct.
Green Bay, WI 54313
Telephone number: 920-405-1998
On 1 1/03/0 5 at 2230 hours, in reviewing TERE,SA's phone records, it indicates she made a
phone call on l0l3ll05 at 1 1 :31 a.m. to a Green Bay number of 920-405-t 998. In checking that
phone number in a reverse directory, I found that it belonged to a DANIEL S. MORROW in the
City of Green Bay.
I did make phone contact with DANIEL at approximately 2230 hours. DANIEL stated he did
receive a phone call from TERESA HALBACH. DANIEL states she indicated she would be
coming to take a picture of his vehicle for AUTO TRADER magazine. DANIEL stated she was
supposed to come on today's date, 11/03/05. He states he was not home and does not know if
she would have shown up to take that picture or not. DANIEL could not provide me with any
other perlinent information reference TERESA' s whereabouts.
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Onlll04l05 at7:30 a.m., I (Deputy GARY SCHULTZ of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF's
DEPT.) arrived at work. I spoke briefly with Sheriff JERRY PAGEL who requested that I assist
investigators on this complaint. Sheriff PAGEL asked that I make contact with the seniors at
HILBERT HIGH SCHOOL to see if any infomation could be gained as well as check the area
in the Town of Brillion due to my familiarity with that area to see if I could locate TERESA's
vehicle.
Sheriff PAGEL also asked that I look into a recently called phone number of 864-7 | l0 to see if I
could asceftain who that number came back to.
I left the sheriff s dept. at approximately 8:20 a.m. and arrived at HILBERT HIGH SCHOOL at
8:35 a.m. At approximately 8:55 a.m., I spoke with all the seniors at HILBERT HIGH SCHOOL
and advised them we were attempting to locate TERESA. None of the seniors at the high school
were able to provide any information.
While on my way to the area of CTH K and CTH PP, I pulled over to the side of the road and
dialed the 864-7110 number. I, at that time, received the voice mail of a BRADLEY C DJ. Ileft
a message for BRADLEY C, whomever that may be, to contact me as soon as he received this
message.
After receiving the voice mailbox for BRADLEY C, I did notify SheriffPAGEL of my findings
as to the user of that number.
I then searched the area of CTH K and the area of Jodar Rd., namely the sandpits located on the
north side owned by DAVE JANNETTE & COMPANY. I was unable to locate anything.
It should be noted prior to leaving the sheriff s dept., I had the 864-7110 number *",*o"urn o",
computer system. Dispatch advised it came back to MELISSA SCHULTZ, who resided at8253
CTH W in Brown County. After checking the area of CTH K, I drove to that residence to see if I
could locate MELISSA SCHULTZ.
I arrived at the CTH W address at approximately 9:40 a.m. I spoke with one resident of that
address, identified as RACHEL SCHINDLER. She indicates she and JOHN PROPSON (ph)
live together atthat address, along with a PETE FRANK who lives in the other apartment.
In speaking with RACHEL, she indicates she doesn't know a MELISSA SCHULTZ or a
TERESA HALBACH.
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RACHEL thought that JOHN PROPSON might know MELISSA SCHULTZ. I gave her my
name and phone number for him to contact me.
It should be noted, he did call back in the afternoon and that phone call was forwarded to Inv.
MARK WIEGERT.
After leaving the CTH W address, I retumed to the county by way of Man-Cal Rd. I searched
Man-Cal Rd. up to Brant-St. John Rd. in our county. Nothing of interest was found.
I then stopped at the HILBERT HIGH SCHOOL at approximately 11:00 a.m. By way of the
Internet, I searched the864-7110 number, along with BRADLEY C DJ. While doing so, I came
across a website devoted to Dr. MUSIC DJ's. While looking through that website, I did come
across the name BRADLEY C who gave several e-mail addresses. I subsequently went to
BRADLEY C's website. That website was u.r.vw.bradleyc.com.
While looking through the BRADLEY C website, I found a couple of photos showing an adult
male, later identified as BRADLEY CZECH, with TERESA HALBACH. After finding these
websites, I printed these pages and subsequently gave copies of that information to the
investigative staff.
I also notified Sheriff PAGEL of the photos. After returning to the sheriff s dept. and speaking
with him and Inv. DEDERING, I was advised that a BRADLEY CZECH lived at 6693 HWY 57,
Trailer 19, in Greenleaf. I was requested to go to that address to see if I could asceftain if that
subject lived there.
In speaking with an occupant of the trailer court, I was able to verify that BRADLEY CZECH
lived at that address and this information was also forwarded to Inv. WIEGERT.
At approximately 2:10 p.m., Inv. WIEGERT and Inv. DEDERING arrived and approached the
residence to conduct their interview.
On my way back to the sheriff s dept., I again checked the area of CTH K and CTH PP.
Traveling east on CTH K, there was a long field entrance that leads to the south approximately .2
of a mile east of CTH PP. I drove that field entrance as far as I could and did look through the
area in an attempt to locate TERESA HALBACH's vehicle, which I was unable to locate.
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On 11104105 at 8:45 a.m., I (Inv. MARK WIEGERT of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT.)
received a phone call from ANDREA L. VANDEWALLE. ANDREA stated she was wonderinq
if we needed any help with finding her friend, TERESA HALBACH.
ANDREA states she had been a friend with TERESA since college. She said the last time she
saw TERESA was on 10/18/05. ANDREA stated TERESA is a very stable person, very family
oriented and she does not believe that TERESA would have had a boyfriend. I asked ANDREA
where TERESA would hang out at, and she states TERESA does go to a lot of country bars
because of the area she lives in near Hilberl. ANDREA did indicate to me that TERESA had not
been going out as much as of late because she has been very busy. ANDREA states when they
go out in Green Bay, TERESA very rarely would stay at somebody's house because she would
make the comment that she likes to sleep in her own bed. That is all the information that
ANDREA could provide for me.
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TYPE OF ACTIVITY: Contact with Chase Bank Regarding Teresa Halbach Credit
Card Activitv
DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Friday, lll04l05 at 0845 hrs., I (DEDERING) did contact CHASE BANK regarding
TERESA HALBACH's Credit Card Number 4266 8410 2863 1230.
The purpose of my call was to determine whether there had been any activity on this credit card
since 10/31/05. I was informed by the representative of CHASE BANK that the last activity on
this card was Friday, 10128105. Charges were made to a PAPA MURPHY'S PIZZA in Appleton
and a WAL-MART in Appleton. The individual I spoke with was unable to provide me with any
information regarding addresses for either business place.
At 0900 hrs., I did contact BANK ONE (which had been bought out by CHASE) regarding a
second credit card, that being 4266 8121 3423 7139. The representative advised me that this
card does not appear to be activated.
The representative then advised me that they had a second card listed for TERESA HALBACH
that being 5369 9354 7002 3459. The representative advised me that this is a MASTERCARD,
which has a $ 1,000 line of credit and that there are 5246 avatlable on this account.
The representative advised me that the last activity on this particular MASTERCARD was on
Saturday, 10129105 and it was used at an EXXON fuel station in De Pere, WI. A $38.06 charge
was posted on this account.
The individual who I spoke with indicated that BANK ONE was going to be flagging both
accounts (the account ending on 1230 as well as the account ending in 3459) for activity.
They indicated in the event any transactions were made that they would contact us.
I had received the credit card information regarding card numbers from Inv. WIEGERT who had
obtained alarge file of records from the TERESA HALBACH residence on Thursday, 11103105.
Investigation continues.
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OnIll04l05 at approximately 9:15 a.m., I (lnv. MARK WIEGERT of the CALUMET CO.
SHERIFF'S DEPT.) did receive a phone call from a female identifying herself as KERRY M.
HOOPS from the City of De Pere. KERRY was calling to offer her assistance in the attempt to
locate her friend, TERESA HALBACH.
KERRY stated to me she has not talked to TERESA in approximately amonth because TERESA
had moved out of the apartment in the Green Bay area and back to her hometown. KERRY
could tell me that TERESA was a very stable, outgoing and friendly person. KERRY stated
TEITESA was coaching girls' volleyball. KERRY did not know of any boyfriends that TERESA
would have had. KERRY did state TERESA was a very "likable person" and this would be very
out of character for her not to have any contact with her family or friends.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Friday, lll04l05 at 0935 hrs., I did make contact with LINCOLN HIGH SCHOOL,
Manitowoc, WI , regarding JASON ZIPPERER's attendance on 10131105. I was transferred to
School Resource Officer BRUCE JACOBS and was transferred to a voice mailbox. I left a
message for Mr. JACOBS indicating my question about Mr. ZIPPERER's attendance. I
subsequently received a call from Officer JACOBS indicating JASON ZIPPERER had, in fact,
been at school all day, both morning and afternoon on 10/31/05.
Investigation continues.
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On 11104105 at approximately 10:08 a.m., I (Inv. WIEGERT of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S
DEPT.) along with Sheriff PAGEL of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. went to TERESA
HALBACH's residence. Upon arrival, I met with RYAN HILLEGAS along with several other
friends who were at her residence. RYAN stated the last time he had seen TERESA HALBACH
was on Sunday, 10/30/05. RYAN stated TERESA seemed completely normal and they had
talked about Halloween parties. He also told me TERESA was in very good spirits. RYAN
described TERESA as being extremely independent. He told me he has known TERESA since
they were freshmen in high school and they had dated on and offfor approximately five years
during that time.
RYAN states TERESA previously lived at the address of 425 S. Monroe Ave., Apt. 2L, in Green
Bay. He stated she had moved back to the Hilbert area in November of 2004. That was the end
of rny conversation with RYAN.
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On1f l04l05 at approximately 10:35 a.m., I (Inv. WIEGERT of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S
DEPT.) and Sheriff PAGEL did meet with JOLENE M. BAIN at TERESA HALBACH's
residence. JOLENE requested she be able to speak with us alone. At that time several of
TERESA's other friends did exit the room and went outside.
JOLENE states she and TERESA had become very good friends recently. According to
JOLENE, TERESA had confided in her about a relationship she had with a guy by the name of
DJ BRADLEY. JOLENE did not know the subject's real name; however, she stated he does
have a DJ service called DJ BRADLEY. TERESA had confided in JOLENE that TERESA had
taken nude photographs of BRADLEY and his wife at the time. According to JOLENE, after
this BRADLEY and his wife had broken up and TERESA started dating BRADLEY. According
to JOLENE, TERESA stated to her that BRADLEY was weird and she ended up breakins off the
sexual relationship.
JOLENE did say that TERESA told her she (meaning TERESA) had gone to a couft case
between BRADLEY and his wife in reference to the photos and the negatives of the photos that
she had taken of the two naked. She said this would have occurred approximately five to seven
months ago.
According to JOLENE, TERESA and BRADLEY would only have sex and TERESA did not
have any feelings for him and it was only physical. She told me TERESA had told her that.
According to JOLENE, BRADLEY and his wife were having problems and he would confide in
TERESA about his problems. TERESA also had told JOLENE at one time she did not want to
continue the relationship; however, TERESA continued to receive phone calls from BRADLEY.
At that time, Sheriff PAGEL and I did go back into TERESA's bedroom. I did locate in a trunk
directly next to TERESA's bed several nude photos of a male and a female. Included with those
photos were several negatives. There was a portrait order from PEARCE PHOTOGRAPHY
which had the name BRADLEY and KAYCE CZECH, address of 6693 HWY 57, #I9,
Greenleaf, WI54126. It showed a phone number of 920-864-71I0. I believed this to be the
subject that JOLENE had been referring to.
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Investigation continues.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
Investigation continues.
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The first phone call I made was to 920-864-7110. This phone is listed to a BRADLEY C at DR.
MUSIC DJ SERVICE. No contact was made. All I got was a voice message machine.
The second phone call I made was to 920-737 -4731 . This would be TERESA's cell phone and
the phone still went directly to her voice mail indicating the voice box was full.
The next phone call was to 608-249-2111, which would be AMERICAN FAMILY
INSURANCE, Madison, WI. They indicated to me at this point they could not provide me any
immediate information but would do some checking in regards to her local agent.
The next call was to 608-320-0787. There I received a voice box and it indicated the owner of
the phone would be KATE. I did leave a message on her pager to dial my cell phone so I have
the opportunity to speak with her. As of i 1:05 a.m. on lIl04l05, I have not received anything
back from her.
I also called the following three numbers: 920-849-9596, 920-497 -2786 and 920-83I -2649.
These three numbers are also for fax machines.
I then contacted 920-362-2813. The phone was answered by a JENNIFER ROSIN. JENNIFER
lives in New London. The phone is that of a Green Bay phone based on her cell coverage. I
asked her if she was familiar with TERESA HALBACH and she indicated to me no. I asked if
there would have been a reason why she thought TERESA might have contacted her or called
her number and she indicated they were trying to rent out a duplex but she stated that would have
been after July. I then informed JENNIFER of the business that TERESA was in and she
indicated to me they did try and sell a truck back in July through AUTO TRADER and that is
when they possibly would have had phone contact with TERESA, but she does not remember the
name offhand. JENNIFER lives at 5862 HWY 54, New London, WI.
The next phone call I made was to 920-531-1234. I received a voice machine with a male's
voice and the name would have been FOERTSCH. I did leave a messaqe on the machine.
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My next call was to 920-406-2820. I received a voice mail with no information on the voice
message as to who the owner of the phone was.
I placed a call to Boca Raton, FL, at 561-988-5500. It should be noted there were three phone
calls to Boca Raton. All three appeared to be that of a fax machine at this number.
My next call was placed to 920-892-2390. This also was a fax machine.
I then placed a call to 920-822-8211. I received a female party by the name of KATHY (ph)
who identified herself as working for PULASKI VET CLINIC. I asked KATHY if she was
familiar with TERESA HALBACH and KATHY indicated she was a new employee at the vet
clinic and was not familiar with the name. She did transfer me to a different individual who
informed me they would check their records to see if they had dealt with TERESA and what for
and then would contact us back. It should be noted at approximately 1 I :10 a.m. on 77104105,
PULASKI VET CLINIC did contact us back indicating TERESA had a cat at their clinic at that
time and she was referred to the SHERWOOD VET CLINIC.
The next call was to 920-360- 1 506. I made contact with an individual by the name of BEN
MAYER, of 2423 Sycamore Drive, Apt. 3, Green Bay, WI. BEN identified himself as being a
friend of TERESA's since college. I asked BEN when he had last seen TERESA and he
indicated to me he had seen her last approximately two weeks ago on a Saturday night at the
COCKIN BULL BAR, Main Street, Green Bay. He indicated they do get together there fairly
often. He indicated to me he was currently at work and they would be getting together this
aftemoon with a bunch of friends to starl putting out flyers for TERESA. I informed him I
would give this information to one of our investigators and they may be contacting him shorlly.
My next call was to 920-360-4836. I made contact with a voice message box but there was no
name attached to the box.
My next call was to 920-499-4815 to HEYRMAN PRINTING in Green Bay, WI. I spoke with a
JOHN who indicated to me he was not familiar with TERESA but she may have done business
with them at some point in time. I informed him TERESA was a photographer and based on
their printing business, they may have done business. He indicated to me if he found anything
pertinent, he would contact us immediately.
My last phone call was to 920-246-8025. I received a voice machine with no information.
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The phone calls were started approximately 9:48 a.m. on 11104105 and I completed the phone
calls shortly before 11:00 a.m. on lll04l05.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Friday, Ill04l05 at 1100 hrs., Captain PAUL RUSCH brought me information regarding a
phone call he had taken from RACHEL HAGGS who was employed with AUTO TRADER. I
did call the phone number for AUTO TRADER (414-425-8675) and did speak with the
following individual:
RACHEL J. HAGGS
DOB 11t24t8s
190 W. Allerton Ave.
Milwaukee,WI 53207
Cell No. 262-391-2074
Ms. HAGGS advised me that someone named DAWN who works at AUTO TRADER stated she
had overheard that STEVEN AVERY had called on yesterday's date (11/03/05) between 4:30
and 5:00 p.m. approximately, because STEVEN needed to reschedule the appointment with the
photographer. STEVEN indicated that the photographer had not made the scheduled meeting on
Monday, 10131105.
According to RACHEL, STEVEN indicated that the photographer (TERESA HALBACH) had
called and indicated that she could not make the Monday appointment.
According to RACHEL, there is a record for an appointment with JANDA on the 31" of
October. RACHEL went on to indicate that STEVEN stated TERESA had contacted him on
Monday about this matter.
RACHEL indicated that a subject named SCOTT had called STEVEN regarding TERESA
HALBACH and, apparently, was under the impression STEVEN was not happy about "being
accused of stuff."
RACHEL went on to indicate that she had learned STEVEN AVERY had made inappropriate
comments to TERESA in the past and further had come out of the house on a previous occasion
wearing only a towel.
Investisation continues.
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On 11104105, I (Inv. BALDWIN of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT.) was requested to
report to the sheriff s department to assist with a missing person complaint. I was informed by
Inv. WIEGERT of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. that we were attempting to locate a
TERESA M. HALBACH, DOB 03122180. Inv. WIEGERT informed me that TERESA's mother,
KAREN, had reporled her missing the day before at approximately 1700 hours. TERESA was
last heard from on 10131105 in the early aftemoon hours.
I was requested by Inv. WIEGERT and Sheriff PAGEL to prepare Subpoenas for TERESA's
cellular history, financial records as well as her home phone company. I did receive the account
information for TERESA's financial records and prepared a Subpoena for M & I BANK to
receive those records. A Subpoena was also prepared for CINGULAR cell phone for the
information on TERESA's account as well as other information needed. There was also a
Subpoena prepared for TDS phone company to obtain the records for TERESA's home phone
line. These Subpoenas were prepared by the district attomey's office and the appropriate
signatures were obtained. I did retum the Subpoena to M & I BANK in Chilton and did receive
copies of TERESA's financial records. The other two Subpoenas were turned over to Inv.
DEDERING to have faxed to the appropriate departments.
Inv. WIEGERT had made contact with CURT DRUMM from LAKESHORE AVIATION. Inv.
WIEGERT did inquire with CURT if it would be possible to accompany him in an airplane in
order to do a flyover of the last known location of TERESA.
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We did a fly over of the entire Mishicot area and again met with negative results.
We also flew to Brown County from Mishicot in an attempt to possibly locate TERESA
HALBACH's vehicle, again meeting with negative results.
We finally flew from TERESA HALBACH's residence, located on CTH B west of St. John, to
the Mishicot area via USH 10 and again we were unable to locate the HALBACH vehicle.
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On Friday, 11104105,I had personal contact with SUE LISOWE and JOAN LECHLER at the
M&I BANK in Chilton. A Subpoena for records pertaining to the financial transactions for
TERESA HALBACH were provided to LISOWE and LECHLER.
I was informed that TERESA had a personal checking and savings account at the M&I BANK
and also a checking account for her business, which was known as PHOTOGRAPHY BY
TERESA. A check of the financial records revealed no recent activity specifically no activity
since Monday,10131/05. Records perlaining to TERESA HALBACH's financial accounts at the
M&I BANK can be found incorporated with this reporl.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Friday, 11104105 at 1 310 hrs., I (DEDERING) did have contact with a representative of
CINGULAR WIRELESS regarding a court order that was prepared by Inv. BALDWIN and
facsimile transmitted to CINGULAR WIRELESS. CINGULAR WIRELESS folks advised me
that they required an eavesdropping warrant similar to a Title 3 Wiretap Warrant in order to
access any voice mail records.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Friday, 11104105 at 1409 hrs., Inv. WIEGERT and I did interview the followins individual
conceming this matter:
BRADLEY C. CZECH
DOB 03119t72
6693 STH 5l Lot#19
Greenleaf, WI54126
Home Phone 920-864-7 110
Ce1l Phone 920-217 -l 454
Information had been developed that BRADLEY CZECH had been involved in a physical
relationship with TERESA HALBACH. Information developed that Mr. CZECH had possibly
been calling TERESA HALBACH after their relationship had terminated.
Prior to asking Mr. CZECH any questions, he was advised that he was free to leave, was not
under arrest and could stop answering questions at anytime he chose. He indicated he
understood this and agreed to speak with us. CZF,CH indicated he is currently employed as an
executive producer for CBS NEWS. He states he reports for work at 0130 hrs. daily.
He went on to indicate TERESA HALBACH is one of his best friends. He stated that their
friendship goes in spurts and she has worked on weddings as a photographer for the bride and
groom and that BRADLEY has provided DJ service for the wedding. He states that they have
been friends approximately two years.
BRADLEY indicated that he and his ex-wife, who is identified as KAYCE KROENING, had
posed for nude photographs and TERESA had taken these photographs at PEARCE STUDIOS
in Green Bay. He stated they had become comfortable with TERESA and that they both agreed
to pose for these photographs. The photographs appear to be very tastefully done.
He stated that he has been divorced since August of 2005, and that he had been separated for
sometime previous to that. I was able to determine that KAYCE M. CZECH and BRADLEY C.
CZECH frled for divorce in Brown County on 10126104. BRADLEY freely admitted to being
involved in a sexual relationship with TERESA, but says they are not romantically involved.
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He stated he had last seen TERESA at MAX & ERMA's at BAY PARK SQUARE
approximately two weeks ago and they had had lunch together. He stated that he had text
messaged TERESA at 1245 hrs. on 10131105 and he had gotten no response. He stated he called
her at 2Il7 hrs. on 1 1/03/05 and he found her voice mail to be fuIl. He stated that after a couple
rings, the phone transferred to an automated voice mail, not TERESA's personal greeting.
He stated that he, NICOLE SANGER and TERESA did lot of three-way calls. He stated that
NICOLE's phone number is 920-47 5-1351.
BRADLEY indicated that TERESA was not known to be depressed nor have any problems. He
stated that in his last conversation with TERESA, she had made no mention of any incidents
during AUTO TRADER shoots. He went on to indicate he and TERESA were involved in a
sexual relationship "a long time ago." He stated that TERESA advised him that she had
"nothing going on in that department" during her recent conversation with him. BRADLEY did
indicate that TERESA mentioned to him that she had slept with her roommate, SCOTT, several
times and that she had regretted it, but had gotten over the awkwardness of being involved with
him.
BRADLEY indicated that the relationship with TERESA starled at the beginning of 2005. He
has no answer as to why the relationship was not pursued other than they were both busy.
BRADLEY CZECH did indicate that he owns vacant property off STH 57, north of Greenleaf,
but indicated that this was iust a lot.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Friday, lll04l05 at 1450 hrs., Inv. WIEGERT and I (DEDERING) did attempt to make
contact at275 S. Quincy St., Green Bay, WI Apt. #3. SBC SECURITY had advised us that
while they could not provide a last name subscriber for 920-435-1367, they could, in fact,
provide us with a last address that the number listed to. Inv. WIEGERT and I initially found no
one at the residence.
Investigation continues.
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On Friday, 11104105 at 1505 hrs., I (DEDERING) did do a telephone interview with the
following individual:
NICOLE L. SANGER
DOB 05t15t82
110Y, S. Jackson
Green Bay, WI
Cell Phone 920-47 5-1351
NICOLE indicated she had last seen TERESA "two weeks ago last Sunday." She stated at this
time TERESA seemed to be in a really good mood and they were going to do lunch with
BRADLEY CZECH, however, NICOLE had other things to do and was unable to attend. She
stated, TERESA and BRADLEY and she had a three-way call at that time.
I asked NICOLE who TERESA was close to. She stated TERESA was very close to her family,
to BRADLEY CZECH and to her roommate. NICOLE indicated she has known TERESA for
between 72 and 18 months.
NICOLE indicated that, to her knowledge, TERESA was not involved with anyone as of a
couple of months ago. She described BRADLEY and TERESA as "good friends" and had no
knowledge of any other involvement.
I asked NICOLE for some of the other names of people that she knows are friends of TERESA.
She stated that she is very bad with names and was unable to provide me with any other
information conceming TERESA's friends. I terminated the conversation with Ms. SANGER at
approximately 1 520 hrs.
Investigation continues.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On 1 1/05/04 at 1525 hrs., Inv. WIEGERT and I (DEDERING) did make contact with the
following individual at his residence:
It should be noted that Inv. WIEGERT had contacted Mr. VANDENHEUVEL by phone and Mr.
VANDENHEUVEL did asree to meet us at his residence.
VANDENHEUVEL indicated that he had not had a home phone number since he was in a
homeless shelter in May of 2004. He indicated that at this time he could not recall his home
telephone number. He did not believe that he ever had a phone number that began with the
prefix of 415. (It should be noted that I subsequently received a phone call from Mr.
VANDENHEUVEL after we left his residence indicating that his last landline phone number
was 920-360-5551). VANDENHEUVEL indicated he did not know TERESA HALBACH at all.
He indicated that he had no fax at his residence. He states that he does not have Intemet service
but does have a home computer.
He indicated that to the best of his recollection, he was home alone on 10131105 all day.
VANDENHEUVEL allowed Inv. WIEGERT and I to do a cursory search of his apartment, and
nothing of any interest was observed at this time. We terminated our interview with Mr.
VANDENHEUVEL at approximately 1530 hrs.
Investigation continues.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Friday, lll04l05 at 1558 hrs., Inv. WIEGERT and I did interview the followins individual
regarding this matter:
THOMAS E. PEARCE
DOB 10/0s/48
1707 Woodberry
Green Bay, WI
54313
Home Phone 920-434-3004
Tlre interview took place at his place of business, PEARCE PHOTOGRAPHY, located at 1599
Westem Ave., Green Bay, WI, 920-592-9494.
PEARCE indicated that TERESA HALBACH and he have known one another four to five years
in total. He indicated TERESA interned at his studio during her last year of school at UW
GREEN BAY. He stated that once TERESA gtaduated, she stayed on first as a payroll
employee of his and then he and TERESA actually set up two separate businesses under one
roof. He stated this has gone on almost two years. He stated TERESA is a very helpful and
responsible individual, and stated that the business arrangement is that they will take care of each
other's appointments and bookings, etc. He stated that he has never discussed how well
TERESA is doing financially because he believes it is none of his concem.
He indicated that he was not aware of TERESA dating anyone. He stated TERESA would
perhaps go to movies with individuals but he is not sure with whom. He stated that she does
have three or four male friends who are motorcycle racers and she would on occasion
accompany them to ROAD AMERICA to watch motorcycle racing there. He stated that he
believed that if TERESA was only seeing one person in particular, THOMAS would know about
it.
PEARCE indicated that invariably TERESA would notify him if she would be gone for an
extended period. He did indicate that her employment with AUTO TRADER has been taking up
quite a bit of her time.
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He stated that the photo studio is closed on Mondays, and he did not believe that TERESA had
any bookings on Tuesday. TERESA did mention to him that she would see him on Tuesday,
11/01/05. He stated that TERESA had plans to attend a business marketing meeting on
Wednesday, 11102105, and indicated that she would be in between I 1:00 a.m. and 12:00 noon on
Wednesday. He stated that when she did not appear at the studio or go to the business marketing
meeting on Wednesday, he became concerned for her.
He stated when TERESA did not appear at the studio on Thursday,lll03l05, he became
extremely concemed and after lunch, he became really worried. He stated he called TERESA's
cellular phone and learned that her mailbox was full. He stated that this was extremely
concerning to him as she invariably will check her messages numerous times throughout the
course of the day.
THOMAS indicated that he then called TERESA's mom, KAREN, who indicated that she would
begin calling TERESA's friends in an attempt to locate her.
PEARCE indicated he does not have a fax machine on his premises. He indicated TERESA was
provided with a fax machine by AUTO TRADER. He stated TERESA would fax in the amount
of work or contacts she had in the course of a business day to AUTO TRADER; and she would
be paid according to the contacts from the faxes.
PEARCE went on to indicate that recently TERESA had been receiving a lot of telephone calls
that she would not answer. THOMAS indicated that these phone calls would have no message
and apparently were coming from a phone number she did not recognize. PEARCE indicated
that TERESA told him that someone keeps calling and not leaving a message. TERESA stated,
"I won't call them back." THOMAS indicated that it appeared as though TERESA did not know
who was calling. He stated that this began in early to mid summer, there was a break in this
routine and then approximately three weeks ago, this started again. THOMAS believed that the
phone calls were always originating from the same number.
THOMAS indicated if TERESA was upset by these calls, she didn't let on that it did upset her.
THOMAS indicated that she had told him that she had had a problem during the time she was
working for AUTO TRADER. He stated that she had told him she had gone to photograph a car
and the individual who owned the vehicle invited her in and made some verbal comments, which
she found made her uncomfortable, and at this point she left.
THOMAS indicated he did not know whether TERESA would give out cards to AUTO
TRADER clients with her cellular phone number listed on it. He stated that she would get calls
from the AUTO TRADER who weren't necessarily satisfied with the AUTO TRADERS
performance. THOMAS indicated that she would usually tell the clients not to call her but to
call the AUTO TRADER about this.
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pEARCE went on to indicate that TERE,SA began working with AUTO TRADER during the
summer of 2004.
TOM indicated that he was unsure as to whether TERESA possessed a gazetteer but stated that
she knew about a lot of short cuts and back roads. He states TERESA also keeps very
current
maps of the areainher vehicle because of the amount of travel she does for AUTo TRADER in
addition to the travel she does for photographing weddings'
I did notice that THoMAS PEARCE, from time to time, would speak about TERESA in the past
tense.
THOMAS PEARCE indicated that TERESA appeared to be doing "okay" with her photography
business, given the amount of experience she has in the photography business'
THOMAS was asked about places that TERESA mentioned that she would like to go. He stated
that he could not think of any other than perhaps going to Milwaukee or Chicago. He
did state,
however, that she would let THOMAS know before she went on any trips like this.
TOM pEARCE indicated that he doesn't know TERESA to cany large amounts of cash. The
interview with Mr. PEARCE terminated at approximately 1650 hrs.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Friday, 11104105.I did make contact with the GREEN BAY POLICE DEPT. and asked them
to check in-house records for the number 435-1367. They advised us that at one point a subject
named PATRICK HERMUS was shown in their in-house computer as having that particular
phone numbel.
The address listed for Mr. HERMUS was 535 1lth Ave. in Green Bay, WI'
At 174I hrs., [nv. WIEGERT and I did attempt to make contact with Mr. HERMUS at that
address. There was no answer to our repeated knocks and it did not appear as though anyone
was home at the residence. There was a building permit placed in one of the windows,
indicating that the owner of the building was someone named STACY STERLING.
Investigation continues.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: Copy of Facsimile Transmittal
Investigation continues.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Friday, lll04l05 at 1925 hrs., I (DEDERING) did make contact with SBC SECURITY
regarding the 920-435-1367 phone number. I was advised that once again there was no
subscriber information shown for this phone number and that, in fact, the phone number had
been disconnected for sometime. The representative I spoke with did indicate once again that the
last known address for the phone number was 215 S. Quincy #3, Green Bay, WI.
The representative indicated that this could possibly be a "por1ed" number, and further indicated
that anyone can reflect any phone number they choose to as the originating phone number for a
facsimile transmittal.
Investigation continues.
DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Saturday, 11/05/05 at 0800 hrs., I (DEDERING) did deliver a Compaq laptop computer,
serial number CN31253850, to Det. MICHAEL VELIE, GRAND CHUTE POLICE DEPT. The
purpose of the transfer of this computer was to have VELIE download the computer and make a
mirror image so that he could analyze forensically what was on the laptop computer. The
computer had been taken on Friday, 1ll04l05,by Inv. WIEGERT and Inv. WIEGERT had given
the laptop to me in the evening hours of Friday, 11104105, for me to transpotl to GRAND
CHUTE POLICE DEPT. The computer remained in my care and custody from the time it was
tumed over to me by Inv. WIEGERT until I turned it over to Det. VELIE'
Investigation continues.
DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: "Test" Facsimile Transmittal
On Saturday,Ill05l05 at 0830 hrs., Sheriff JERRY PAGEL and I (DEDERING) did arrive at
TERESA HALBACH's residence. We did send a facsimile from TERESA HALBACH's fax
machine to the CALUMET SHERIFF's DEPT. in order to attempt to determine whether
TERESA had programmed her fax machine to reflect the telephone number 435-1367 on her fax
machine. We did fax a test to the CALUMET SHERIFF's DEPT. and the telephone number
shown on the "from" portion of the fax reflected the phone number 920-435-1367. This is the
same number that was reflected on the facsimile sent to AUTO TRADER on 10/31/05 in the
early morning hours. This reflects that TERESA HALBACH's fax machine is in fact
progru*-"dJo reflect the 920-435-1367 number, and that she, in fact, did send the fax to AUTO
TRADER on 10/31/05, probably from her residence.
Investigation continues.
DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On 11i05/0 5 at 1025 hrs., I (DEDERING) did return a phone call to the following individual:
DAVID J. BEACH
DOB 03107118
203 W. Coventry Ct.
Glendale, WI
I had been left a message to contact Mr. BEACH at the earliest convenience on 1 1104105.
in
BEACH advised me that he is a cousin of TERESA HALBACH and he came up yesterday
he had was that she was going
order to attempt to locate her. He stated the only infotmation that
to be working in the Mishicot and Two Rivers area'
(and towing)
BEACH indicated that on l1l04l05,he stopped at AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE
an<l spoke with STEVEN in percon. He advised STEVEN that BEACH's
cousin was the missing
individual. STEVEN indicated to BEACH that he remembered seeing a RAV4; and when
DAVID asKed him what tiME thE RAV4 WAS At AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE, AVERY
indicated it was mid-aftemoon approximately 2:00 p.m. or so. According to DAVID,
STEVEN
that she took
AVERY indicated that he had shown the photographer a couple of vehicles and
know her next stop.
some photos. STEVEN AVERY indicated to BEACH that AVERY did
not
BEACH told me that he was advised by AVERY that when the RAV4 pulled out of the
driveway, it went to the left from the AVERY property'
DAVID BEACH indicated that he went to a second towing company in Maribel, WI, and the
proprietor at that towing company indicated that they had not seen TERESA'
he answered
BEACH described STEVEN AVERY as being calm and concerned. He stated that
all of BEACH,s questions and did not appear to be "holding anything back." BEACH described
AVERY as being verY forthright.
Investigation continues.
On Saturday, 11/05/05, I (Sheriff PAGEL) met with Invs. WIEGERT and DEDERING at the
sheriff s department. I had received information that several of TERESA's family and friends
that
were planning a search of the Mishicot area. I informed Invs. WIEGERT and DEDERING
we should spEak with STEVEN AVERy to ascertain if he would allow us to search the salvage
yard and we could utllize the friends and families to expedite the search'
we were about to leave the sheriff s deparlment to travel to AVERY',S AUTO SALVAGE when
was on the
Dispatcher MARIE OOSTERHOUSE summoned me into the dispatch center. Marie
phone with a female, later identified as PAMELA STURM. MARIE handed me the
phone. I
spoke with pAMELA and she indicated she is a friend of TERESA HALBACH-
PAMELA
stated she and her daughter, NIKOLE STURM, were at AVERY'S AUTO
SALVAGE and had
found a RAV4 vehicle in the salvage yard, which PAMELA stated was covered with
branches
and stuff. I suggested to pAMELA that she attempt to locate the VIN for the vehicle and the
location for the VIN was given to PAMELA'
I then handed the phone to Inv. WIEGERT and he continued speaking with PAMELA
and she
was able to provide apartralVlN, which had similarities to the VIN for TERESA HALBACH's
vehicle. lnv. wlEGgitt informed pAMELA she should not touch the vehicle
and we would be
responded to
Invs. WIEGERT and DEDERING and I then left the sheriff s department and
AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE.
and Lt' TODD
We arrived at approximately 1 1 :10 a.m. and were met by Det. DAVE REMIKER
DCt' REMIKER
HERMANN Of ThE MANITOWOC COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT'
yard as
informed us he had confirmed the vIN on the vehicle in AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE
belonging to TERESA HALBACH.
individuals who
Also on scene was an individual identified as EARL AVERY as well as the two
notified our department of the discovery, they being PAMELA and NIKOLE
STURM'
PAMELA informed us she had obtained verbal permission from EARL AVERY to go onto the
salvage yard and it was at that time she located the RAV4 vehicle.
and obtain
Inv. DEDERING was requested to interview PAMELA and NIKOLE STURM
written statements from them.
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STATE OF
I then placed a cellular phone call to JIM WARREN, Administrator for the
WISCONSIN DIVISION OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION (DCI). I CXPIAiNCd
thc SitUAtiON tO
me he would
Mr. WARREN and I requested the assistance of DCI. Mr. wARREN informed
contact the WI STATE
have DCI agents r.rpond to our location. He also indicated he would
CRIME LAB and request that their mobile unit also respond to our location.
state agents from
DCI Special Agent JAMES FASSBENDER arrived on scene as well as other
I named
DCI. Because Inv. WIEGERT was the initial investigator assigned to this complaint,
investigation'
him and Special Agent FASSBENDER as the lead investigators for this
DISPATCH: DisPatch.
DISPATCH: Okay
DISPATCH: Okay
DISPATCH: Right
her
CALLER: Jor Teresa Halbach. I4re have found a RAV4. What color speciJically was
RAV4? And do You have a VIN number?
DISPATCH: UM,
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DISPATCH.,SOI
CALLER: ...VINnumber
DIS7ATCH: hold on. 801. Can you call dispatch right away'/ Do we have a VIN number?
CALLER: . . .VIN number. It's not on this side Nik, go on the other side.
CALLER: Oh, Sheri/f Pagel, hi, this is Pam Sturm. I'm on the search.for Teresa Halbach
and we found a RAV4
SHERIFF: Okav.
CALLER: Yes, um, I, where is the VIN number on something like this?
SHERIFF: The VIN number would probably be on the windsh or underneath by on the dash,
driver's side
SHERIFF: IJm, hum, Now I'lt give you Inv. I(iegert. He's got the pho, ah, VIIV number here'
CALLER: Okal'.
CALLER:Yeah,youknowwecan'tJindthatVlNnumber'
CALLER: It is bluish-green.
WIEGERT: Does it look like a newer one?
CALLER: Its more of a bluish-green though, that's why we don't want to put, you lorcu"
CALLER: No plates on it but it's a little covered up, it's weird, it's covered up.
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CALLER: some of it
CALLER: Yeah, I wilt. It's Lemieux Toyota sticker on it. Does that have it?
WIEGERT: I don't lorcw if they had a Lemieux Toyota sticker on it. I don't lmow about that.
CALLER: Yeah
ryIEGERT: Stay onthe outside of the car, go over to the.front on the driver's side
CALLER: I, I realize that, I'm in the business so I kinda htow but I can'tfind the VIN
Yeah,
number. I'm Picking uP the wiPer'
WIEGERT: OkaY.
CALLER: There is, I can't find the VIN number. Isn't that.funny. Oh here it is Nik. I don't
have mY glasses.
LVIEGERT: OkaY.
GALLER: okay, now hang on. The fir, the last.four digits 3044.
CALLER: Yes.
CALLER: I don't know. Nik, can you look at any other numbers'? Ah, there is some people
out here so we have to be careful and, you lorcw, um there is some a, I don't know
if they are emPloYees or
WIEGERT: Okay
CALLER: Yes, say it real slow Nik. Can't see the verlt beginning numbers but here goes
T1Z5XTaloraT,aIoraT
WIEGERT: Okay, where are You?
WIEGERT: Okay, stop. I can't tell you anything. Iyhere are you?
WIEGERT: Okay, stayright v,-here you are. Do not touch anything, do not go anvwhere
around that vehicle. stay right where, what's your phone number'?
CALLER: This is long distance. You need to dial the entire number.
WIEGERT: Okay. Stay where you are. Do not touch the vehicle, do not let anybody else
touch the vehicle.
WIEGERT: Okay. Just stay v,*here yoLt are. I'll Jind you.
CALLER; Well, we asked this guy real nice to come in here but
CALLER: Gottcha.
WIEGERT: We'll be on our way. IVe are going to have somebody over there as soon as
possible.
CALLER: Bye.
After hanging up with PAMELA STURM, Inv. DEDERING and I, along with Sheriff PAGEL,
did respond to the AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE yard off of STH i47 in the Town of Gibson in
Manitowoc County. While en route, I again contacted PAMELA on the cell phone. PAMELA,
at that time, asked me if TERESA's vehicle had a LEMIEUX TOYOTA sticker attached to it. I
told PAMELA that I was not sure and that I would find out and call her back.
I then made phone contact with Det. DAVID REMIKER of the MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF'S
DEPT. and requested they respond to the AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE yard because we
believed that we had found TERESA's vehicle. After hanging up with Det. REMIKER, I
contacted KAREN HALBACH. I asked KAREN if there were any stickers on the back of
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TERESA's vehicle to which she stated she was not sure, but she would find out and call me
back. Approximately three minutes later, I did receive a phone call back from KAREN
HALBACH indicating that there would, in fact, be a LEMIEUX TOYOTA sticker located on the
back of TERESA's vehicle.
I then re-contacted Det. REMIKER on my cell phone and informed him that the vehicle that was
at the salvage yard had a LEMIEUX TOYOTA sticker on the back of it and that I had verified
with the family that TERESA's vehicle also had LEMIEUX TOYOTA a sticker on the back.
Det. REMIKER informed me he was already en route to the salvage yard with several other
officers to secure the area and check the vehicle.
Inv. DEDERING, Sheriff PAGEL and I arrived at approximately 1t:10 a.m. on 11/05/05. Upon
arrival, we met several hundred yards away where the Manitowoc squad cars were parked. We
met with Det. REMIKER who informed us that he had, in fact, confirmed the VIN on the vehicle
that was located on the AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE property and that it was TERE,SA
HALBACH's vehicle.
Inv. DEDERING then spoke with NIKOLE and PAMELA STURM and took a written statement
from them.
investigation continues.
DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Saturday, 11/05/05 aI1029 hrs., the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF's DEPT. did receive
a
dispatch
telephone Jt fto- two female individuals. Inv. WIEGERT fielded the call from the
and was told that the two females had possible located TERESA HALBACH's
""niq
automobile on the AVERy'S AUTO SALVAGE property. The ladies indicated that
they had
gone onto the property with consent, and had quite possibly located TERESA HALBACH',s
vehicle. They were instructed not to touch anything and they were able to provide Inv.
WIEGERT with a partial VIN from the dash plate on the vehicle they had located-
Inv. WIEGERT, SHERIFF PAGEL and I did leave for the AVERY properly immediately
and Sheriff
arriving at approximately 11 10 hours. Inv. WIEGERT and I rode in one vehicle
PAGEL trailed in a second unit.
DEPT', Lt'
upon arrival, I obserryed Det. DAVE REMIKER, MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF's
CO.
TODD HERMANN, MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF's DEPT. ANd OthET MANITOWOC
SHERIFF's personnel that I am not familiar with'
Inv. WIEGERT recalled that the AVERY family owned property in Marinette county
and a
indicated
phone call was placed to the MARINETTE couNTY DISPATCHER. The dispatcher
N9404
that there was propefty listing to ALLAN AVERY, located at N9493 Highline
Lane and
Highline Lane.
It was in this area of time that Det. REMIKER did verify that the VIN plate on the
RAV 4
matched the VIN on the registration of TERESA HALBACH's vehicle'
CO'
At approximately 1135 hrs., I did make contact with Det. MIKE SIEVERT, MARINETTE
TERESA
SHERIFF,s DEPT. I advised him of the basic incident and that we had recovered
yard. SIEVERT advised me that he
HALBACH's vehicle in the AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE
was going to be going towards the area in Marinette County to check for
any vehicles'
Investigation continues.
On 11/05/05 at approximately 10:40 a.m., I (Inv. BALDWIN) began my shift and was requested
by Inv. WIEGERT to follow-up on some information that had come in about the possible
sighting of TERESA HALBACH. At approximately 1 1:13 a.m., I did make contact with
ANNA
p. KXUTSON, DOB )Ill)ll4,who informed me that on possibly Tuesday morning, she had
seen a female fitting the description of TERESA on the highway taking
photographs of cows.
Shortly after my arr-ival, Inv. WIEGERT had informed me that they located TERESA's vehicle
on the AVERY ProPertY.
Inv. WIEGERT requested that I inform TERESA's family that we had located TERESA's
vehicle.
At approximately ll:42 p.m.,I anived at w3559 CTH B. I did speak with ToM and KAREN
HALBACH and informed them of the information that I had received. I told them that I would
them that Sheriff
continue to be in contact with them to let them know any updates. I also told
PAGEL would be in contact with them later this aftemoon'
After speaking with the HALBACH family, I was requested to respond to the AVERY
residence
to assist with the scene as well as provide security'
We then retumed to the command post and were requested to also search
DOLORES and
at
ALLAN AVERY,S residence, thaibeing 12930 Avery Rd. We made entrance into the house
At
approximately 1610 hours and conducted the search of the inside of that residence.
approximately 1615 hours, we exited that residence'
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A short time later, GREAT LAKES SEARCH AND RESCUE arrived on scene with their search
dogs. I went with one of the handlers and the dog and assisted searching the pit area where all
the junk cars were located; however, that night nothing was found.
I signed as a receiver of those Search Warrants. Those Search Warrants were tumed over to
Special Agent AL HUNSADER to be given to the appropriate people.
DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: Two One-Page Written Statements
On Saturday, 11/05/05 at approximately 1140 hrs., I (DEDERING) did speak with the following
two individuals regarding them locating TERESA HALBACH's vehicle:
NIKOLE E. STURM
DOB 04l13l1l
336 Grandview Ave.
Menasha, WI54052
Phone 920-941-0211
PAMELA A. STURM
DOB 01i05/54
3002 Williams Grant Dr.
De Pere, WI
Phone 920-532-5033
NIKOLE and PAMELA were the individuals who had contacted the CALUMET SHERIFF's
DEpT. via cell phone to indicate that they had possibly located TERESA HALBACH's unit.
They stated thai they had been granted permission by a co-owner in the AVERY'S AUTO
just
SALVAGE business, that being EARL AVERY, to search for the vehicle. They stated that
prior to contacting our agency via cellular phone, they had located a dark blue or teal colored
ioyota RAV4 parked in an area in the southeast corner of the salvage yard. NIKoLE indicated
thai she had taken photos prior to calling our agency. The STURMS indicated that they had
used
tissues in an attempt to deiermine whether was vehicle was secure and found the doors
to be
locked.
At 1 l:50 a.m., I did obtain the following written statement from NIKOLE STURM:
permission
-myselfl to look around the property. He granted us permission and we (Pam &
began on.foot. Walking south of the main office we (Pam & myselfl separated
and began tookiig into salvaged vehicles. At approximately 10:20 am., Pam called me
over to look at a blue/green Toyota Rav 4 that was covered in brush and other salvaged
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vehicle parts. Pqm immediately called dispatch to help identifu the vehicle. I took
pictures with ct digital comera before the phone call. Wile Pam was on the phone with
dispatch, I tried all the vehicle doors (using a tissue to avoid contact) which were locked.
Dispatch indicated to check the driver's front windshield panel for the VIN. I was only
able to verify a"few of the VIN digits. Dispatch took our phone number and we moved
away.from the vehicle. Three Spanish speaking individuals were in the vicinity (approx
100 yards) from the Toyota. We awaited arrival of Manitowoc PD and remained about
t 000 .feet from the vehicle, but keeping it in constant visual contact. "
This statement was signed by PAMELA STURM in my presence at 12:00 noon on 11/05/05.
After the completion of the statements, I did give the STURMS a ride back to their vehicle,
which was parked, in the parking area of AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE.
The camera used by the STURMS to capture digital images of the RAV4 was turned over to
Sheriff PAGEL by me.
Investigation continues.
At approximately 1145 hours, I (WIEGERT) was advised by Sheriff Pagel the scene would be
tumed over to our depaftment under the mutual aid pact for Manitowoc County.
At approximately 1304 hours, I met with Calumet County District Attorney KENNETH R.
KRATZ and Manitowoc County District Attomey MARK ROHRER as well as Manitowoc
County Assistant District Attomey GRIESBACH. At that time, we decided we would need to
apply for a Search Warrant for the property.
At approximately 1404 hours, Det. REMIKER and District Attomeys ROHRER, KRATZ and
GRIESBACH responded the Honorable Judge JEROME FOX's residence in the City of Two
Rivers. At that time, District Attorney KRATZ was assigned as Special Prosecutor of the case.
We then left the Honorable Judge FOX's residence and went to the FOX LAW OFFICE on
Washington Street in Two Rivers arriving there at approximately 14i5 hours. At 1510 hours, we
did receive the Search Warrant and the Search Warrant was signed by the Honorable Judge FOX.
We left the Honorable Judge FOX's office at l5l4 hours and returned to the AVERY propefty.
We arrived at the AVERY property at approximately 1525 hours at which time we began to
execute the Search Warrant. A copy of said Search Warant will be included with this report'
Investigation continues.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Saturday, l1105/05 at 1215 hrs., I (DEDERING) did make contact with Det. SIEVERT of the
MARINETTE CO. SHERIFF's DEPT. I had been instruCtEd tO AdViSC thE MARINETTE
SHERIFF's DEPT. to prevent anyone from entering or leaving the properlies owned by ALLAN
AVERY. SIEVERT indicated that he had squads on the way to take care of this matter.
At 1345 hrs., I had further contact with MARINETTE SHERIFF's DEPT. Det SIEVERT. I was
instructed to advise SIEVERT to interview everyone at the scene and if possible obtain Consent
to search the residence.
Investigation continues.
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Earl K. Avery
DOB 06110170
6904 CTH Y
Whitelaw. Wl 54247
I asked EARL who owns the salvage property to which EARL stated his mom, DOLORES,
actually would own the property and took it over from his grandparents. EARL states he works
there every weekday from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. and then evely other Saturday.
EARL said it was pretty much a normal week except for on Thursday, lll03l05, he and his
brother, STEVEN AVERY, went to an automobile insurance auction on, what he believes was,
Kolosso Drive by USH 41 in the City of Appleton. According to EARL, STEVEN picked him
up at his house at approximately 6:30 a.m. on Thursday, 11/03/05. He states they got back
aiound 3:00 p.m. I asked EARL if they had stopped anywhere else on that day to which EARL
stated they stopped at a couple of places on the way home. One of the places was a Firestone tire
business, which he described as being around USH 4l in the City of De Pere. He also stated
they stopped at SMITTY'S SALVAGE AND SUPPLY yard after leaving the Firestone place,
which is also located in the Green Bay area. EARL also told me after leaving SMITTY'S, they
went to a place called HARBOR FREIGHT and bought some tools, which is just down from
SMITTy,S SALVAGE AND SUPPLY. After leaving HARBOR FREIGHT, they stopped in the
Village of Denmark at a restaurant, which is just off of I-43, EARL told me they left the
restaurant at approximately 2:30 p.m. When they arrived in the Mishicot area, STEVEN
dropped EARL off at home. EARL then changed into his work pants and then came back to
*ork. He states he got back to work at approximately 3:15 p.m. until approximately 5:00 p.m.
At that time, I asked EARL to go back to the beginning of the week so he could tell me what he
had done. EARL stated that on Monday, 10/31/05, he was doing cars. I asked him what he
meant by that to which EARL states they would cut the motors and transmissions out of the cars.
EARL tiren stated either Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday, he was not sure of the day, he and a
friend of his by the name of ROBERT FABIAN, had taken his mother's golf cart and took a ride.
He stated they went down a lane at about 3:30 p.m. in the aftemoon. He states the lane is where
we would have found TERESA's vehicle. He states when they drove down the lane with the
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golf cart, the truck was not there. I asked him again if he could be more clear on what day this
occurred. EARL stated it might have been Tuesday, but he does not know for sure.
On Tuesday, EARL states he again was working on cars, removing the motors and transmissions
but would not have been anywhere near where the truck would have been parked.
I asked EARL when the last time he would have been anpvhere near the where TERESA's
vehicle was located to which EARL stated it was last night, which would have been lll04l05.
He and STEVEN were down near the pond, which is directly north of where the vehicle would
have been found, shooting and sighting in their rifle. He stated they were down there right
before dark and he did not notice the vehicle at all but never really looked up there. I asked
EARL if anybody would have walked up to where we had found TERESA's vehicle to which
EARL stated nobody had including him or STEVEN.
EARL states the first time he had heard about this his mom had called him when he was at home
and said the TV stations were here to talk with STEVEN about a missing woman. His mom also
tolcl EARL that STEVEN had made the comment he thought he was being treated like a suspect.
EARL also stated the rest of the week pretty much seemed notmal and this moming, which
would have been 11/05/05. STEVEN and his mom left to go up north where they have cabins up
in Marinette County. STEVEN would have taken his blue Grand Am up norlh. According to
EARL, STEVEN would be at his dad's cabin. I asked him where that was. He stated it was the
last cabin on High Line Rd. outside of Crivitz in Marinette County. He told me they have three
cabins there.
At that time, I asked EARL if he knew what would have happened to TERESA. EARL states he
has no idea what would have happened nor does he know how TERESA's vehicle would have
gotten there. EARL told me, 'oEven if my brother did something, I would tell."
I asked EARL if he is familiar with the AUTO TRADER magazine. EARL states he is because
his brother, STEVEN, sold approximately four to six vehicles through the AUTO TRADER
magazine. EARL did remember that on Monday, 70131/05, STEVEN had made the comment to
EARL that he had to go home because somebody was meeting him there. He believed it was
somebody from the AUTO TRADER magazinewho was supposed to meet STEVEN. EARL
also states he remembers last week that someone had called and asked for STEVEN and his
brother, CHARLES, had talked to her. I asked him if he knew who that was. EARL stated he
was not sure but he thinks it was someone from the AUTO TRADER magazine again.
Investigation continues.
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On Saturday, 11/05/05, at approximately 1320 hours, I (Sgt. BILL TYSON of the CALUMET
COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT) did receive a telephone call at my residence from
CALUMET COUNTY DISPATCH. CALUMET COUNTY DISPATCH iNfOTMCd ME MY
assistance was needed at the STEVEN AVERY property and TERESA HALBACH's vehicle
was located in the junkyard on the AVERY property.
Upon my arrival at the sheriff s department, I did wait for Deputy JENNIFER J. BASS to arrive.
Upon Deputy BASS's arrival, we proceeded to go to the AVERY property to assist in this
investigation.
Upon our arrival at approximately 1445 hours, I did make contact with lnv. WIEGERT and Inv.
STEIER. Inv. STEIER informed me I should go into the junkyard to relieve a Manitowoc
county deputy who was standing by at TERESA HALBACH's vehicle.
Deputy BASS and I proceeded into the junkyard and were met by several law enforcement
officers who were keeping a crime scene 1og. I did check in with the officer who was keeping
the log and he did log me in to that area at approximately 1455 hours. I was notified that I
should walk in the left tire lane to proceed towards TERESA HALBACH's vehicle. Upon
approaching TERESA HALBACH's vehicle, the Manitowoc County deputy exited the area.
While standing guard over a green Toyota RAV4, I could see the sky was getting very dark and
there was a mist in the air. There was talk amongst several of the officers to put atarp over the
green Toyota RAV4 to protect any possible evidence on the exterior of the vehicle. A tarp was
vehicles to help weigh down the
froduced and I did assist in getting objects from in back of other
iarp to prevent it from blowing away. Extreme care was used by the officers to prevent the tarp
from touching the green Toyota RAV4. Once the tarp was in place, Inv. STEIER notified me
that my assistance was needed back at the command post. Deputy BASS did relieve me in
proteciing the green Toyota RAV4. I exited the crime scene area of the green Toyota RAV4 at
approximately 1 5 1 0 hours.
Upon arriving with Inv. STEIER back at the command center, I was informed it would be my
responsibility to log the times of the search teams that were going to be entering the residences.
Once the Warrants were obtained, the search teams did execute the entry into the residences and
did report back to me with the times they entered and exited each of the residences and
outbuildings. Those times were given to the appropriate officers.
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At approximately 1700 hours, I did make contact with representatives of the GREAT LAKES
SEARCH AND RESCUE ASSOCIATION. I was informed there were four dogs that would be
assisting with the search of the junkyard. Those handling dogs were ELAINE MCCLEARN,
GRACE SALM, LEANN (ph) SCHARNOTT and ROBERT CRAMER. I was informed that
there should be a deputy with each of the dog handlers and I did assign Deputy KENNETH R.
MATUSZAK to go with GRACE SALM, Deputy DANIEL KUCHARSKI to go with ELAINE
MCCLEARN and Deputy GARY SCHULTZ to go with ROBERT CRAMER.
At1720 hours, the dogs and deputies began their search ofthejunkyard area.
At approximately 1855 hours, Inv. BALDWIN informed me that the dogs and deputies had
finished the search of the junkyard area and the dogs and their dog handlers were released from
the crime scene.
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REPORTING
OFFICER: Inv. Gary Steier
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: Consent to Search Form
On Saturday, 11/05/05 at 1405 hrs., Manitowoc County Det. DENNIS JACOBS and I
(DEDERING) did escort EARL AVERY, previously mentioned in this reporl, to his residence.
EARL AVERY had questioned me earlier as to whether he would be allowed to leave the area of
the junkyard. After some period of time passed, it was determined that EARL AVERY could
leave the junkyard area. EARL AVERY did allow me to review the outgoing calls made by him
on his cellular phone, and the only call that he had made was to a number he identified as
STEVEN AVERY's cellular phone number at approximately 7:00 a.m. on the morning of
Saturday, 11/05/05. I inquired of EARL AVERY if he would allow Det. JACOBS and I to
perform a cursory search of his residence. He advised me that was perfectly acceptable with
him. Det. JACOBS and I did follow EARL AVERY to his residence located at 6904 STH Y,
Whitelaw, WI54247. We did perform a very rudimentary search of EARL AVERY's residence
and outbuildings and did take a walk around the property line. Nothing of an evidentiary nature
was located.
I questioned EARL AVERY as to the remarks he made to Inv. WIEGERT about STEVEN and
EARL sighting in some fireatms in the pit the previous evening'
He stated when he arrived in the area where they were target practicing (immediately norlh of
where Ms. HALBACH's vehicle was located), he stated that it was starting to get dark and stated
that he did not notice the vehicle, but he was not really looking for it either.
EARL AVERY stated that he fired22 rounds of ammunition while at the pit. He stated that this
was "a box and two rounds." He was asked how many rounds STEVEN had fired and his
response was "none."
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Shortly after aniving at the AVERY property, I was teamed up with two MANITOWOC CO.
SHERIFF'S DEPT. investigators to check the outbuildings on the property for TERESA
HALBACH. At this point we believed there was a possibility that TERESA was still alive. We
began searching the outbuildings on the AVERY properly and we started with several garages
located in the northwest coffrer of the property.
The first garage we searched would have been a red garage and we found a snowmobile and a
Suzuki Samurai motor vehicle. We also found numerous .22 shell casings located on the floor of
the garage. We were unable to locate TERESA HALBACH in the building.
We then moved east towards a light blue home and a light blue garage. We entered the garage
and it was here that we found a carcass of a deer hanging. Again we were unable to find
TERESA HALBACH.
Behind the light blue house, we observed four garbage cans. Two of the garbage cans contained
clothing. One had, what appeared to be, a shovel sticking into it with a pair of men's underwear
hanging from the shovel. We also observed a reddish cloth material in the second garbage can.
At this same residence, there was a small tool shed or barn. We opened that building up and
again we were unable to locate TERESA HALBACH.
We continued east into the main compound area of the property where we searched a large, red
pole building. We entered the north end of the pole building on the east side and realized that the
interior of the pole building was split into three large rooms. We traveled through a door in the
northeast comer of the north room, out the west side and into the fenced in area of the
compound. There we observed two other buildings and multiple motor vehicles. The one
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building was an old metal barn located along the norlh side of the compound where we searched
and did not locate the missing person that being TERESA HALBACH.
We then moved to the southwest corner of the compound and searched a large pole building
which appeared to be fairly new. Again we did not locate TERESA HALBACH. We searched
the motor vehicles that were in the compound area and agarn we were unable to locate TERESA.
We then moved through a gate on the southeast side of the compound and into a lot area above
the actual salvage yard. There we moved along the south side of the red building and entered
another room in the red building through an east door on the south side of the building. Here we
located alarge Case W20; this is a large caterpillar type vehicle or bulldozer type vehicle with
forks on it, which appears to be used to move motor vehicles within the property.
We exited back out the east door we entered and moved north along the building and now
entered the third room within the red pole building. This room appeared to contain a large
quantity of metal parts and again we were unable to locate TERESA HALBACH within the red
pole building and its three compartmentalized rooms.
We then entered a shop, which appeared to be used as a building that stored transmissions and
engine parls in the back half. The building had an old office area on the north end along with a
workshop in the norlhwest comer and a wood bumer. This building was searched and we were
unable to locate TERESA.
We then moved out of that building and to the east where we entered a newer building with
AVERY AUTOS - CHUCK & EARL listed on the front. Prior to entering that building, we
came across a yellow Dodge Neon with a WI Plate 343JVF. In the backseat of this vehicle, we
located what appeared to be an unloaded 30.06 rifle. After verifying that the rifle was empty, we
then entered the main office area to search for TERESA. Upon entering the offrce area, we
observed a missing person poster with TERESA's name and information and her picture on it
posted in the office. We then searched the office area and moved into the main shop. We
cleared the shop and were unable to locate TERESA. We were unable to locate TERESA in any
of the buildings at this point.
We also checked a two car garage located behind a residence in the northeast corner where the
shops were located. In this garage we located a golf cart and a passenger vehicle. Once again
we were unable to locate TERESA HALBACH.
It should be noted that other teams alreadv on scene were searchins the residences on the
property for TERESA HALBACH.
I (Lt. SIPPEL) returned to the command post where we began to make plans for searching the
property further. Our intent was to search for TERESA HALBACH in hopes that we would find
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her alive. I then began to work on scheduling officers to come onto the property to begin
searching on Sunday, ll l 06105.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Saturday,11105105, at 1457 hrs., sometime after arriving back from the EARL AVERY
residence, I (DEDERING) was contacted by Lt. JAMES LENK, MANITOWOC CO.
SHERIFF,S DEPT.
LENK indicated that a member of the MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF's DEPT. had contact with
STEVEN AVERY's fianc6e, identified as JODI STACFIOWSKI. JODI told the individual from
law enforcement she spoke with that in telephone conversations she had with STEVEN AVERY,
STEVEN told her that BOBBY DASSEY had had contact with TERESA HALBACH after
STEVEN did.
It should be noted that JODI STACHOWSKI is currently housed in the MANITOWOC CO.
COUNTY JAIL, that BARB JANDA is STEVEN AVERY's sister, and that BOBBY DASSEY
is BARB JANDA's son. LENK went on to indicate that" JODI had visited with STEVE at the jail
on Tuesday and, at that time, according to STACHOWS,KI, STEVEN told JODI that TERESA
HALBACH had come to photograph the car and that was al^.
According to LENK, JODI STACHOWSKI indicated that on Friday, contact was made between
JODI and STEVEN and at that time STEVEN indicated that BOBBY had seen TERESA after
STEVEN had.
Investigation continues.
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Det. REMIKER and I went to an area on the driveway in front of a residence marked 129304
Avery Rd. I photographed the two pieces of evidence that were marked, a broken pair of glasses
and a plastic part, and collected these two pieces. Det. REMIKER and I returned to the
command post for another assignment.
Upon arrival at the command post, Lt. SIPPEL ordered me to go with a dog handler and a
cadaver dog to search the junkyard porlion of the property. The rest of my time on duty was
spent in this search. The dog had interest in two spots in the junkyard, the intersection of the
conveyor system in the southwest corner and a tall weeded area in the northwest corner of the
lot. These areas I marked for further investigation.
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After a search for TERESA HALBACH in the residence, investigators left the residence at
approximately 3:58 p.m. Inv. STEIER, along with Det. REMIKER, did enter a locked, detached
garuge located on the property of 12932 Avery Rd. at 4:03 p.m. Inv. STEIER checked the door
to the detached garage and found it to be locked. Inv. STEIER then forced open the door with
his shoulder. Inv. STEIER struck the door once. The door opened and investigators then entered
the garage.
After checking the interior for TERESA HALBACH and not finding TERESA, investigators did
exit the garage at 4:06 p.m. Deputy SCHULTZ and Deputy MATUSZAK of the CALUMET
COIINTY SHERIFF's DEPT.. remained on scene outside the residence.
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TYPE OF ACTIVITY: Contact with Marinette Co. Sheriffs Dept., Det. Sievert
DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
Investigation continues.
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TYPE OF ACTIVITY: Sweep of Area by Great Lakes Search & Rescue Canine Inc.
Representatives
DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
ROBERT W. CRAMER
DOB 09t23t52
N2211 Frontage Rd.
Oostburg, WI
Phone 920-564-3939
His Dog - "TRACE"
and
JULIE A. CRAMER
DOB 03120161
N2211 Frontage Rd.
Oostburg, WI
Phone 920-565-3939
Her Dog - "BRUTUS"
It had been leamed through an interview with EARL AVERY that STEVEN AVERY was the
individual responsible for crushing the last vehicle, which was still in place in the crusher. It was
my understanding that the vehicle in the crusher was probably crushed on Friday, lIl03l05.
JULIE CRAMER and BRUTUS did check the vicinity around the crusher as well as the inside of
the crusher. BRUTUS did not react in any way to any material on the crusher.
It should be noted that I was advised by JULIE CRAMER that BRUTUS is a cadaver dog, and
will only react to human remains and human blood.
CRAMER and BRUTUS, Special Agent FASSBENDER, Special Agent HUNSADER from
STATE OF WISCONSIN DEPT. OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION (DCI), Det. JACOBS and
I did take a route south from the crusher and then went along a fence/tree line that EARL
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AVERY had identified as being the properly between the AVERY property and the RADANDT
QUARRY. The last row of cars on the AVERY properly did contain the RAV4 that belonged to
TERESA HALBACH. JULIE CRAMER and BRUTUS went ahead of the rest of us, and as
BRUTUS passed by the north side of the RAV4, which had been covered by a blue tarp in order
to preserve possible fingerprint evidence (as it appeared to be getting ready to rain), BRUTUS
made an abrupt left tum movement and stuffed his head under the tarp. He then came back to his
handler, JULIE CRAMER, and began to bark. JULIE CRAMER advised us that this was, in
fact, an alert indicating that BRUTUS had detected either human remains or human blood.
At 1620 hrs., I did observe representatives of the WI STATE CRIME LABORATORY field unit
approach the RAV4 parked on the south property line of the AVERY properly.
At 1633 hrs.,HUNSADER, JACOBS and I along with JULIE CRAMER and BRUTUS, did
leave the AVERY property and proceed onto the property immediately south of the AVERY'S
AUTO SALVAGE yard. It should be noted that Sgt. BRIAN NACK of the MANITOWOC
COUNTY SHERIFF's DEPT. had obtained permission from the owner of the property, Mr.
RADANDT, to search any and all areas that were deemed pertinent. While BRUTUS did show
interest in several areas in the quarry or gravel pit area immediately south of the AVERY'S
AUTO SALVAGE yard properly, BRUTUS did not factually alert on any'thing in the area.
At 1713 hrs., JULIE CRAMER and BRUTUS did revisit the crusher area and once again
BRUTUS did not alert.
BRUTUS was secured in the van, which ROBERT and JULIE CRAMER had arrived rn at l7I4
hrs.
At JULIE CRAMER and her canine, BRUTUS, Lt. SIPPEL of the CALUMET CO.
1726 hrs.,
SHERIFF'S DEPT., Det. REMIKER from the MANITOWOC SHERIFF's DEPT., Special
Agent HUNSADER from DCI, and I did proceed to a bum barrel area near the STEVEN
AVERY residence.
It was decided that JULIE and BRUTUS would go through the STEVEN AVERY residence in
an attempt to determine whether BRUTUS would alert to any'thing within the dwelling.
Ar.1135 hrs., Det. REMIKER, JULIE CRAMER, BRUTUS and I did enter the STEVEN
AVERY residence. We did exit the residence at 1740 hrs. I personally did not observe any
alerts from the canine.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: One Page Written Statement
On Saturday, 11105105 at 1753 hrs., I (DEDERING) in the company of Manitowoc Co. Det.
DENNIS JACOBS did interview the following individual at a roadblock situated at the
intersection of STH 747 and Jambo Creek Rd. in the Town of Gibson. Manitowoc Countv:
BOBBY A. DASSEY
DOB r0/18/86
N12930 Avery Rd.
Two Rivers, WI
Phone 920-755-8715
Prior to asking BOBBY A. DASSEY any questions, he was advised that he was free to leave,
was not under anest and did not have to answer any questions at anytime. I did have BOBBY
DASSEY open his door to prove to him that the door was not locked and that he was, in fact,
free to go.
BOBBY advised me that his father is PETER DASSEY and that his mother is BARB JANDA.
He stated he does live with his mother at the Avery Rd. address. He stated that he lived on
Avery Rd. since 2001 and prior to that he lived on Preston Rd. in Whitelaw for approximately
eight years.
BOBBY states he works third shift at HAMILTON MANUFACTURING in Two Rivers and is
normally home by 6:30 a.m. in the moming.
BOBBY indicated that on Monday, l0l3ll05, he woke up between 1400 and 1430 hrs. He stated
that he looked out his family's mobile home window and observed a "little SUV" which he
described as being either teal or blue in color. He stated he obserued the vehicle stop and a
female exit the unit and photograph a maroon van, which his mother is attempting to sell. He
stated that after the photographer had finished photographing the van, he observed her walking
towards the residence of STEVEN AVERY. This residence is located immediately west of
DASSEY's home. He stated that she was seen walking "towards the porch." He stated the
photographer spent approximately five minutes photographing the vehicle.
BOBBY stated that he left for deer bow hunting at approximately 1445 to 1500 hrs. He stated
that the teal vehicle was still there when he left. He stated that he arrived home at dark or shortlv
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tlrereafter. He did estimate the time at 1645 hrs. He stated that when he arrived home, the blue
or teal colored SUV was eone.
BOBBY was asked to describe the female who he saw walking towards STEVE's porch. He
described her as being skinny with "brownish hair," and wearing a dark colored, waist length
coat. He indicated he did not know if she was wearing glasses and did not know what kind of
trousers she was wearing.
BOBBY indicated when he came out of his residence to go to his truck, he did not see the lady.
BOBBY stated it was his understanding that the lady had been to the AVERY property four to
five different times in the past twelve months to photograph units that STEVE wished to sell in
the AUTO TRADER magazine.
BOBBY indicated he was never in the teal or blue colored SUV and had never touched the
vehicle. BOBBY stated that his vantage point of the vehicle and the young lady was from his
mother's mobile home, which he estimated to be approximately 60 yards away from where the
van is parked. BOBBY indicates that Monday,10131/05, was the first time he had seen the
female photographer.
BOBBY indicated that as he was traveling on STH 147 towards the property he hunts deer on, he
did observe an individual known to him as SCOTT TADYCH. BOBBY indicated that SCOTT
would be able to verify precisely what time he had seen BOBBY.
BOBBY was asked once again, whether his prints would be in or on the RAV4 and he indicated,
"No, no way at a11."
BOBBY DASSEY indicated that he believed STEVE AVERY was at home alone during the
time the photographer was in the vicinity. BOBBY indicated he was unsure who might have
been at the AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE shop.
I advised him that we had learned that STEVEN indicated BOBBY had seen this young lady
after STEVEN had. He indicated that there was "No way, I was hunting."
I asked BOBBY if he would be interested in pursuing some sort of truth verification to show me
that he was, in fact, being truthful and his response was "Yes."
I asked him what he thought the results of this examination would show, and he indicated, "I'm
tellins the truth."
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I asked Mr. DASSEY why STEVEN AVERY would say that BOBBY was the last one to see the
photographer. BOBBY responded, "Did he say that?" I then asked BOBBY if it was true and
his response was, 'No." I asked BOBBY why STEVEN would say something like this and
BOBBY's response was "He'd stab ya in the back." BOBBY indicated that STEVEN has done
this to him before over "little stuff."
BOBBY DASSEY did indicate that he was concerned for an eight-week-old Labrador puppy,
which he stated, was in his mother's residence. He, very respectfully, asked Det. JACOBS and
me if there was anyway possible he could retrieve the Labrador. I advised Mr. DASSEY that I
would think about this and we ultimately made the decision to go into the BARB JANDA
residence with BOBBY's petmission to retrieve the dog. He indicated that we would find the
doors to the residence unlocked.
At 1831 hrs., Det. JACOBS and I did retrieve a black Laborador puppy from the far west
bedroom and we left the residence at 1834 hrs. At 1844 hrs., the Labrador puppy was tumed
over to BOBBY DASSEY and BOBBY DASSEY did provide us with a written staternent at that
time.
BOBBY DASSEY did dictate the following one page written statement to me:
shower. I got dressed for bow hunting & noticed someone coming down the driveway.
She stopped in .front of my mom's maroon van that Steve is trying to sell for my mom. I
v,atched her take pictures oJ the van. She got done with that & started to v,alk toward
Steven's house. I grabbed my bow, got into my Blazer, and left. I didn't see the lady who
took the pictures w'hen I left. The S.LI.V, a teal colored, possibly a Honda, w'as there
when I left to go hunting. She had shoulder length brown hair, it looked darker to me.
She w'as wearing a dark waist length jacket. She ,,-as skinny. About 3 or 4 minutes went
by between the time I got my jacket and the time I got into my truck. I dictated this
statement to Investigator Dedering. I have read this statement and initialed all
corrections. This statement is true and accurate. No promises or threats have been
made to get this statement."
This statement was signed by BOBBY DASSEY in my presence as well as in the presence of
Det. JACOBS at 7:01 p.m.
Investigation continues.
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on Saturday, 11/05/05, at approximately 6:30 p.m., I (Inv. STEIER) along with Sgt. Bill
TYSON of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF's DEPT. were informed by Lt. LENK of the
MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF's DEPT. to check outbuildings and a trailer located on the east
side of the AVERY'S SALVAGE YARD.
At 6:41p.m., Inv. GARY STEIER, along with Sgt. BILL TYSON, did forcibly enter the locked
residence of 12928 Avery Rd. attempting to locate and check the welfare of TERESA
HALBACH. The deputies searched the residence for TERESA HALBACH and exited the
residence at 6:51 p.m. There was no house number located outside of the trailer and the trailer
appeared to be uninhabited.
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Upon arriving at the residence, I did note that the residence did have a house number of 12932.
We made unforced entry to STEVEN AVERY's residence through the front door at 1930 hours.
Upon making entry, Sg1. COLBORN and Det. REMIKER began photographing the inside of
STEVEN AVERY's residence.
After the photography was completed, Det. REMIKER, Set. COLBORN and Lt. LENK stated
they would begin the search at the south bedroom of the residence. Upon entering the south
bedroom, at 1944 hours, Det. REMIKER stated he would search the closet and bedroom dresser
and Lt. LENK stated he would assist Det. REMIKER. Sgt. COLBORN concentrated his search
of tlie desk and the nightstand, which was located next to the desk.
At 1947 hours, Sg1. COLBORN indicated he did locate a pair of leg irons and a pair of
handcuffs, which were located in the nightstand next to the desk. Sgt. COLBORN also located a
set of keys that had a"2003" key chain. Sgt. COLBORN then showed me a prescription
medication bottle that was prescribed to STEVEN AVERY. The medication was Atenolol, 5-
milligram tablet. The medication bottle was located on top of the desk in the bedroom. While
searching the desk, Sgt. COLBORN located numerous magazines and catalogs all addressed to
STEVEN AVERY.
At 1952 hours, Set. COLBORN showed me a MILLS SUPPLY catalog, a Skylark GS book, an
AMERICAN INGENUITY magazine, COOKS (ph) SAW AND MACHINE magazine, a 1988
A&M SOFTWARE booklet, and a September 1992 PLAYBOY magazine, all addressed to
STEVEN AVERY. Sgt. COLBORN also located several identifiers in the desk addressed to
JODI M. STACHOWSKI.
At2004 hours, Sg1. COLBORN showed me a "Bill of Sale" for AUTO TRADER magazine,
which he found on top of the desk in the bedroom.
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4t2004 hours, Sgt. COLBORN also showed me a broken cell phone he found in the top right
drawer of the desk.
When Lt. LENK had finished assisting Det. REMIKER in searching the closet and dresser, he
informed me he would be checking the bathroom, which was located directly next to the
bedroom. I stood at the entranceway of the bathroom looking into the bedroom so I could see if
Lt. LENK had located any evidence in the bathroom. While I was standing there, I did tum and
face an entrance/exit door to the residence, which was located directly across from the bathroom.
The door was brown in color and upon looking at the door, I could see several small spots on the
door that appeared to be reddish brown in color. I notified Det. REMIKER and Sgt. COLBORN
of this information and they informed me they were just finishing up the bedroom and wished to
collect the bedding off of the south bedroom, STEVEN AVERY's bed.
Lt. LENK, Det. REMIKER and SeI. COLBORN did collect the bedding off of STEVEN
AVERY's bed and did place the bedding into bags at2016 hours.
At 2030 hours, Det. REMIKER looked at the door that had the reddish brown spots on it.
At 2030 hours, Det. REMIKER did photograph the door with his digital camera.
l^t2032 hours, Sg1. COLBORN used his evidence camera to also photograph the door.
At 2035 hours, Det. REMIKER did swab two of the possible stains.
At 2038 hours, Det. REMIKER did a control swab on the exit/entrance door in the vicinitv of the
possible bloodstains.
At 2041 hours,
Sg1. COLBORN noticed a possible bloodstain on the linoleum bathroom floor.
Sgt. COLBORN did photograph the stain to scale and without scale at204l hours.
At2044 hours, Det. REMIKER did a control swab in the vicinity of the stain on the bathroom
floor.
At 2048 hours, Sg1. COLBORN re-entered STEVEN AVERY's bedroom to retrieve previously
bagged items of evidence when he noticed a roll of duct tape on top of the dresser in STEVEN
AVERY's bedroom. Sg1. COLBORN did collect that piece of evidence at2048 hours.
At2052 hours, Sg1. COLBORN and Lt. LENK began searching the other bedroom located in the
residence, which was located between the living room and the bathroom. Det. REMIKER
informed me he wished to use a lint roller on the carpeting in STEVEN AVERY's bedroom. I
did watch as Det. REMIKER rolled a lint roller across the carpeted floor next to the bed.
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I then noticed a dark colored stain on the molding that went around the entrance/exit door
directly across from the bathroom. I directed Det. REMIKER's attention to that stain and Set.
COLBORN did photograph the stain.
At2109 hours, Sg1. COLBORN also photographed some scratches on the wood paneling. Those
scratches would have been located between STEVEN AVERY's bedroom and the entrance/exit
door located directly across from the bathroom.
1.t2112 hours, Det. REMIKER swabbed the dark colored stain that was located on the moldins
of the door across from the bathroom.
At21I4 hours, Det. REMIKER did a control swab in the vicinity of the dark colored stain on the
wood molding.
At2II7 hours, Sg1. COLBORN was in the bedroom that was located between the living room
and the bathroom. Sgt. COLBORN had removed a vacuum cleaner bag and filter from the
vacuum that was setting on the floor in that bedroom.
I't2119 hours, Sgt. COLBORN located two rolls of duct tape, which were setting on top of the
dresser in that bedroom. Sgt. COLBORN did collect both rolls of duct tape. One roll was still in
its original wrapper and the other roll was partially used and appeared to be freshly torn.
Sgt. COLBORN, Det. REMIKER and Sgt. LENK then moved their search into the living room
area. At 2125 hours, Sgt. COLBORN removed a pillow from the couch and stated there was a
spot on the pillow. Sgt. COLBORN then collected a mauve colored/green colored fiber that was
setting on the carpeted floor directly in front of the living room couch. That item was collected
at2l27 hours.
Sgt. COLBORN and Lt. LENK then left to search the kitchen and dining area and Det.
REMIMER began searching the computer desk, which was located in the living room.
At2129 hours, Det. REMIKER drew my attention to some photos he found on top of the
computer desk. Upon looking at the photos, it appeared these photos were taken from a digital
camera and then printed off the computer printer. The pictures were pomographic in nature and
included a photo, dated 10110105, and that picture was of an uncircumcised erect penis. There
were other numerous photos showing a female baring her breasts and other photos of a close-up
view of a female's vaginal area.
At2136 hours, Det. REMIKER located a small notebook. When he began paging through the
notebook, he found on the second piece of paper a cell phone number of
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At 2139 hours, Det. REMIKER located an identifier, which was an envelope with the name
STEVEN AVERY and the address of 12932 Avery Rd., Two Rivers, WI5424L That item was
seized as evidence.
At214l hours, Det. REMIKER located an AUTO TRADER magazine, which was also found on
the computer desk in the living room. That item was also seized as evidence. Inside the
computer desk, Det. REMIKER found a "For Sale" sign and on the backside of that For Sale
sign had the telephone number 737-4731. Underneath the cell phone number was the address of
3302 Zurder Rd.
At 2152 hours, Det. REMIKER found a single key that was setting on a portable cabinet in the
living room. Det. REMIKER did photo the key and did confiscate the key as evidence a:2752
hours.
At2157 hours, Sg1. COLBORN noticed, what appeared to him to be, a possible bloodstain on the
inside of the front door. Sgt. COLBORN did photograph the stain and Det. REMIKER did swab
the stain at2159 hours.
At 2201 hours, Det. REMIKER did a control swab in the vicinity of that stain on the front door.
Lt. LENK was in charge of documenting each bag of evidence that had been collected. Those
bags were assigned an item number and the evidence document showing those items with their
number will be attached to this report.
All items of
evidence were placed into the vehicle of Det. REMIKER and we did leave the
STEVEN AVERY residence at2205 hours.
Upon arriving back at the command post, I did remove the items of evidence and place them into
my squad car. Those items were then taken back to the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT and secured in the evidence room.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Saturday,lll05l05 at2004 hrs., Det. JACOBS and I (DEDERING) did make contact with
JASON ZIPPERER, previously mentioned in this report at his residence of 4433 CTH B,
Manitowoc, WI. Prior to asking Mr. ZIPPERER any questions, I did advise him that he was free
to leave and asked him to check the door to insure he realized that the door was unlocked. I
advised him that he did not have to speak with me if he chose not to could chose to terminate the
interview at anytime he wished. He indicated he understood this and wished to speak with me.
I asked JASON if he or anyone in his family knows the AVERYS. He stated he does not
personally know the AVERYS and further does not know where the salvage operation is located.
He stated that his father does not know the AVERY family, and that the ZIPPERER family does
not do business with the AVERY family.
I asked JASON as to where his father was on Monday, 10131105. JASON indicated that his
father might have been on a "big roofjob" off 8'n St. in downtown Manitowoc. BOBBY
indicated that he was 90 percent sure of this as his father had been working on this particular job
for approximately two weeks.
Investigation continues.
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On Sunday,ll106105, we utilized officers and firemen to pop the trunks of the vehicle located in
the salvage yard along with the hoods in an attempt to locate TERESA HALBACH. This
process proceeded pretty much through the whole day on Sunday.
on 11/06/05, I (Deputy DAN KUCHARSKI) responded to the scene at sTH 147 and Avery Rd'
garage at 12932 Avery Rd' by
Upon arrival at itre scene, I was given the assignment to search a
LENK, Badge #204,Det'
Lt. BOWE. I went to the residence to conduct the search with Lt. JIM
Badge #278,Sgt. ANDY COLBORN, Badge #432, who assisted me
in the
DAVE REMIKER,
search and collection of evidence.
At 0947 hours,I collected four burning barrels that were outside of the garage to the southeast of
was
it approximately 50 yards. These barrels were loaded onto a covered trailer and llossession
to the CALIJMET CO'
turned over to MAR1E OOSTERHOUSE, Badge #604, for transporl
DEpT. The barrels were loaded and custody was transferred at 101 I hours'
SHERIFF,S
My search team andI returned to the command post area' We were given the assignment to
at 129304 Avery Rd. I *.trt to the residence to conduct the' search assisted
search the residen ce
by Lt. LENK, Det. REMIKER and Sgt' COLBORN'
the
we conducted a search of the residence collecting a suspected bloodspot in the hallway near
the suspected blood sample'
door on the eastside of the residence. I photographed and collected
The search was concluded at 1221 hours'
My search team and I were sent12932 Avery Rd. to specifically collect any weapons, a
to
vacuum cleaner and bedding from the spare bedroom in the trailer.
and Det'
I went to the trailer to collect the evidence assisted by Lt. LENK, Sg1. COLBORN
two guns that were in a gun
REMIKER . At rz25 hours, we entered the residence and I collected
was on the'n'all above the
rack that were in the back bedroom of the residence. The gun rack
bed in this bedroom. One weapon was a semiautomattc .22 caliber
rifle. The other weapon was
was a piece of nrasking tape with
a .50 caliber black powder mt)zleloader. On rhe muzzlel.oader
a vacuum from the middle
the name of STEVi handwritten on it. I collected the bedding and
bedroom. My team and I left the trailer at 1248 hours'
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any
At the command post, Lt. BOWE gave me the assignment of searching and collecting
evidence from a Ford F350 parked at the garage at 12932 Avery Rd. Det.
REMIKER' Sgt'
COLBORN and I went to the vehicle and conducted the search.
and I
Between 1248 hours and 1549 hours, Lt. LENK, Sgt. COLBORN, Det. REMIKER
searched the new shop building and then the residence at 12928 Avery Rd.
We located three
handguns and two poii"" badges in the new shop building and one .22 callbet rifle in the
residence at 12928 Avery Rd. that were collected at a later time.
At I54g hours, we began the search. sgt. coLBoRN and I photographed the
vehicle. I found
ancl collected hairs unl fib.., from both the passenger and driver's
side floors in the vehicle'
a paper with a
Also collected was a blanket, floor mat with reddish brown stains on it, a rag, and
and Sgt. coLBoRN
computer dating type service printed on it. At 1610 hours, Det. REMIKER
received a different assignment and left the search of the truck. Deputy
RIEMER of the
CALUMET CO. SHERif'p'S DEPT., Badge #832, assisted me in completing the
search.
We the search
Collected was more hair and fibers from the passenger side of the vehicle.
ended
plate of AG5467 .
at 163l hours. The vehicle was a black Ford F350 pickup truck with a truck
by a pafty
I did anive at the residence at approximately 0750 hours. I was let into the residence
WhO WAS TERESA HALBACH'S TOOMMAtC, SCOTT A' BLOEDORN'
DOB 11102179' T
me to stop by
introduced myself to scoTT BLOEDORN and told him Inv. WIEGERT wanted
purposes.
to collect some iterns of TERESA's that would assist us, if needed, for identification
side of the house on
SCOTT did bring me into the bathroom, which is located on the southeast
the first floor. SCoTT opened up the top drawers of a cabinet in the bathroom,
which he stated
contained all her belongings. In the left top drawer just to the left of the sink, I did find
TERESA's toothbrush, *hlch I was told by SCOTT would be hers, and some ChapStick'
I did
plastic bag and sealed'
collect those items ar 0759 hours. Those items were placed into a
on
I then looked into the top drawer on the very right of the cabinet in that southeast bathroom
to it and a
the first floor and also located another lip moisturizer thathad some hair stuck
hairbrush, which also contained some hair. Those items were also collected at approximately
0759 hours and placed into a plastic bag and sealed'
first
I then asked SCOTT if he could bring me to TERESA's bedroom, which is located on the
floor in the southwest corner of the residence. Once inside the room, I did locate the center
compartment cabinet doors on the dresser and inside there was a cardboard
box containing a
vibrator or a sexual
reddish maroon case with a zipper. once I opened up that case, I did locate a
device. I rezipped the case, piaced it into a plastic bag and sealed it. That item was collected at
approximately 0803 hours.
I did take a quick scan around the room to see if there would be any other items useful for
as helpful as I
identificatio.r prrrpor"s for DNA and was unable to see anything that would be
already had.
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At that time, I did end contact with SCOTT and went en route to the sheriff s department where
allthe items I collected were placed into evidence and secured in Locker #5 in the evidence
foom.
Inv. WIEGERT was notified that the items were obtained and placed into evidence.
DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Sunday,11106105 at 0821 hrs., I (DEDERING) assisted by Det. JACOBS did make contact
with GEORGE ZIPPERER, previously mentioned in this report at his residence,4433 CTH B,
Manitowoc, WI.
prior to asking ZIPPERER any questions, I advised him he was free to go, was not under arrest
and could terminate the conversation at anytime he so chose. He indicated he understood
this.
HE stated he would agree to answer questions.
I asked GEORGE ZIPPERER if he had ever done business with the AVERY'S AUTO
even know them." I asked him if he
SALVAGE operation. His response was "Hell no, I don'to'No."
had ever been at the AVERY business and he responded, I asked him if he was in any
way related or close friends with the AVERYS and his response was "No'"
job
Manitowoc. I got there at 8: am. I didn't leave the site during the day, and I left the
Strosner
about 5 pm. Mark Belaban was there, along with at least one employee, Rick
(ph). There was also a painter there. The buitding is on the S/W corner I l't' & Marshall.
I've never done business with At,eryfamily. I've never been to the Avery junkyard.
the I
am not.friends with any of the Avery family'
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have dictatecl this statement to Investigator Dedering. I have read this statement
I and
have initialed all the corrections. The statement is true and accurate'"
This statement was signed in my presence by GEORGE ZIPPERER at 1045 hrs. on 11106105.
Investigation continues.
DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
JO ELLEN indicated that on Monday, 10131105, she had had no personal phone contact
with the
lady who apparently took pictures of a vehicle, but stated the caller did leave a message
indicating that she could not find the residence. It should be noted that at 0930 hrs., Det.
phone
JACOBS did receive permission from the ZIPPERERs to copy this message onto his cell
ancl apparently this was later placed onto a CD.
1430
JO ELLEN went on to indicate that she believed the photographer arrived at approximately
school. stated that she
l*s. and indicated this was before JASON, her son, got home from She
gave
didn't see or hear the vehicle enter the driveway. JO ELLEN ZIPPERER indicated that she
the photographer directions as to how to get to the Firebird she needed to
photo.
indicating that
JO ELLEN indicated that the photographer returned several minutes later smiling,
she stated she had found the car.
I did transcribe the following written statement obtained from JO ELLEN ZIPPERER:
once, a appeared. She was shorter and petit. She was wearing darker waist length
hdj
jacket, she hai brown hair. She asked if she could take photos of a Firebird that Jason
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owns. She said she had talked to George and that it ,,*as ok. I told her how to get to the
car, and she left. About 5 minutes later she came back. She was walking.fast. She told
me she found it and was smiling. She laid some papers on the table, and she le"ft. I didn't
see what car she was driving. I have dictated this statement to Investigator Dedering. I
have read this statement and have initialed all corrections. This statement is true and
accurate. "
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On 11/06/05, I (lnv. BALDWIN) along with JULIE CRAMER and her dog, BRUTUS, from
GREAT LAKES SEARCH AND RESCUE, did search the pond area where TERESA's vehicle
was found. At approximately 9:03 a.m., BRUTUS had made a "hit" on a silver station wagon
type vehicle located on the southwest comer of the pond. I observed, what appeared to be, a
-Th; in the backseat of that vehicle.
Utooay rag lying I did tag and mark that vehicle for evidence
p.o"essitrg. dog continued to work in that area and made another alert on a tan Honda four-
ioor vehiile. I did observe, what appeared to be, bloodspots in the front, passenger and rear
seats of that vehicle.
I did contact Lt. BRETT BOWE who made alrangements for an officer to secure that scene until
the evidence could be processed.
Later that aftemoon, I assisted with volunteer fire deparlment personnel to open every hood and
trunk of the vehicles located on the AVERY property.
On 11/06/05 at approximately 9:40 a.m., I (Lt. BRETT BOWE of the CALUMET CO'
SHERIFF'S DEPT.) assisted DCI with examining two vehicles that were located on the
southeast comer of the AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE yard. These vehicles would have been on
the northwest corner of a pond directly across from the location where the HALBACH vehicle
was located. These vehicles were alerted on by cadaver dogs and their appeared to be small
red
spots inside the vehicles. The vehicles were photographed by the DCI agent. One
particular
,r.hi"l", that being a tan Toyota four door, had a secured trunk area. The area was forced open
and inside was a pair of women's panties as well as a pair of women's camouflage insulated
boots. These items were photographed and it was determined that they should be gathered as
possible evidence due to the fact that it was raining quite hard and the rain was actually turning
io ,rro*. I retrieved both of these items and placed them into bags. The item of collection was
indicated on the bags and the bags were tumed over to Deputy NICHOLAS of the CALUMET
Co. SHERIFF,S pbpr. to be transported back to the sheriff s department for any fuither use of
them.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Sunday , 11106105 at 0942 hrs., I (DEDERING) assisted by Manitowoc Co. Det. JACOBS did
make contact with the following individual:
SHIRLEY R. VANDERLOOP
DOB 08/01/36
4515 CTH B
Manitowoc, WI
Phone 920-682-5151
Ms. VANDERLOOP's residence is located immediately north of the ZIPPERER residence, and
would afford a good view of any vehicles pulling into the driveway of the ZIPPERER residence.
Ms. VANDERLOOP advised me that she was at home during the afternoon hours of 10/31/05,
however, had not noticed any vehicles, whatsoever.
Investigation continues.
DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: One Page Waived Miranda Warning
On Sunday, tll06l05 at 1008 hrs., I (DEDERING) assisted by Det. DENNIS JACOBS of the
MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF's DEPT. did interview the following individual at the
MANITOWOC CO. COUNTY JAIL:
JODI M. STACHOWSKI
DOB 09/11/69
12932 Avery Rd.
Two Rivers, WI54241
Phone 920-755-4860
prior to asking any questions of Ms. STACHOWSKI, Det. JACOBS did read her, her Warning
and Waiver oiRightr, commonly referred to as Miranda, which she did waive her rights to
counsel and against self-incrimination and agreed to speak with us.
STACHOWSKI indicated she has lived at the above address for approximately 18 months. She
stated that prior to moving to Avery Rd., she lived on Waldo Blvd in Manitowoc. She stated that
she moved to the Manitowoc area approximately 12 years ago. She stated she was born in
Menomonee Falls.
I asked STACHOWSKI of her whereabouts on 10/3 t/05, and she indicated that she had been in
custody at the jail, and had been so since 08/15/05 approximately. She states that she speaks to
STEVEN AVERY every night on the telephone. She indicates every Tuesday she is released for
AODA and that STEVfN AVERY provides a ride to and from her AODA meetings. She also
states STEVEN does come to visit her at the facility during visiting hours'
STACHOWSKI states that they just normally have general conversation on most evenings. She
states that STEVEN did not come to visit on Saturday, 11/05/05, and did not plan to,
indicating
he was going up north with his family.
I asked Ms. STACHOWSKI if she and STEVEN had spoken about the missing girl.
STACHOWSKI indicated that subject had arisen on Thursday, 11/03/05. She stated that
STEVEN advised her that TV people had talked to him on Thursday, "I believe". She stated
that on Friday, at 1800 hrs., STEVEN mentioned that he was on the news, and mentioned that
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the police had been out to speak with him. STEVEN advised JODI during the conversation that
she had with him on Friday p.m., that BOBBY (DASSEY) saw "her" (TERESA) after STEVEN
did. According to Ms. STACHOWSKI, TV 5 had advised STEVEN AVERY that the
photographer (TERESA HALBACH) apparently had an appointment after STEVEN's.
STACHOWSKI indicated that STEVEN AVERY believes the police are setting him up.
STACHOWSKI indicated that she somehow agreed with this. She states there are lots of ways
into the yard, at least four that she is aware of. She believed it would be easy for someone to
"plant" the RAV4listing to Ms. HALBACH.
During a briefing, I had been advised that there were handcuffs and leg restraints located within
STEVEN's residence. When I broached this subject with Ms. STACHOWSKI, her response was
"In our house? They must be new." She had a similar response regarding the leg restraints.
STACHOWSKI indicated she was last at the Avery Rd. address in mid -August. She indicated
that the duct tape in the bedroom might have come from her painting and masking the bedroom
off. She stated that she had painted virlually the entire trailer since moving in.
She did indicate that she and STEVEN had discussed the possibility of using restraints during
sex in the past.
STACHOWSKI was asked how STIiVEN learned that BOBBY was the last person to see Ms.
HALBACH. She could offer no explanation for this.
STACHOWSKI indicates she was certain that TERESA HALBACH had been at the STEVEN
AVERY residence in the past, recalling that TERESA HALBACH photographed a boat, motor
and trailer which STEVEN AVERY had for sale.
STACHOWSKI indicated that to herr knowledge, TERESA HALBACH had never provided her
business card or cellular phone numbers to STEVEN AVERY.
I had leamed that a key for a foreign vehicle had been found in STEVEN AVERY's residence
and I asked JODI if STEVEN owns any import vehicles. She stated that she was not aware of
any. She states STEVEN drives a van to and from the yard and drives a Grand Am and a tow
type vehicle in addition to the black Ford F350 that he owns. JODI indicated she was aware that
STEVEN had brought back a camouLflaged painted unit, possibly an ISUZU the previous
weekend.
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JODI went on to indicate that the yard is family operated, and that there are no outside
employees. She states that the family members who participate in the operation area are
"CHUCKY" who lives near his mother DOLORES, ALLAN, the dad, who is on the property
Tuesday through Thursday, and EARL. She stated EARL and CHUCKY are STEVE's brothers.
JODI continued to indicate that it was her belief that STEVEN is being "set up" by the
MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF's DEPT. and possibly other law enforcement agencies.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
Investigation continues.
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When the trailer arrived, I had the Manitowoc County deputy park the trailer behind the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. The keys to the trailer's lock were signed
for and released to me. The trailer had two doors secured by evidence tape by the locking
portion of the handle and one door secured by a lock. I remained watching the trailer until
urrutrg"1n"trts could be made to place the trailer in the back garage unit. The trailer was placed in
the rear garage unit and the garage unit was locked. Two locks were obtained and placed on the
other two doors of the trailer. At the time of the two locks were placed on the doors, all the
evidence tape around the locking portions of the door were still intact and not tampered with.
After the three locks were applied, the two outer doors of the back garage were sealed with
evidence tape. A camera to the sheriffls department was also moved to the back garage so the
back garage couldbe taped 24 hours aday.
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The trailer contained four barrels of burnt unknown substance and a door from a vehicle. I also
had in my possession two keys belonging to a Master Lock, which was secured to the front
passenger side door of the trailer. The trailer was secured with evidence tape by Officer
TACKES and me before leaving the AVERY property.
Upon arrival at the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT., I met with Deputy JEREMY
HAWKINS of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. We arrived at the CALUMET CO.
SHERIFF'S DEPT. at approximately 1224hours.
At approximately 1245 hours, I did sign the secured trailer and its contents over to Deputy
HAWKINS.
It should be noted that at approximately 1138 hours while we were en route with the trailer, we
did stop on the southbound off ramp of I-43 off of STH 1 47 to check on the trailer because it was
pulling very rough. At approximately 1139 hours? we were again en route to the CALUMET
COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPT.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
Mr. STAHL is confined to a wheelchair and does not have easy access to windows or the
outdoors. He advised that his wife had seen the vehicle we were speaking of, as either Deputy
Inspector SCHETTER or someone from his agency had placed a cone in the area where the
vehicle had been. STAHL indicated that his wife would return from shopping "in town" in
approximately three hours. We ended out contact with Mr. STAHL at 12:37 hts.
Investigation continues.
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I WAS iNtrOdUCEd tO JEFF TECH, BRIAN SWETLICK ANd ROB BLOCK. JEFF TECH
informed me he was a detective for the MANITOWOC POLICE DEPARTMENT and JEFF also
told me BRIAN SWETLICK was a detective sergeant at the MANITOWOC POLICE
DEPARTMENT. JEFF TECH told me ROB BLOCK was an evidence technician and a
patrolman at the MANITOWOC POLICE DEPARTMENT.
Our duties also consisted in searching the outbuildings located in the fenced in area to the west
of ALLAN and DOLORES AVERY's residence. Det. TECH, Det. SWETLICK, Officer
BLOCK and I entered the red colored metal shed at 1415 hours. While searching the red shed,
we discovered there were three separate bays in that garage. Officer BLOCK and Det. TECH
were searching the farthest south bay and Det. SWETLICK and I continued and checked the
middle bay and the north bay of the garage. Upon walking into the second and third bay, we
were able to see that garage was used to house vehicle parts and tools. There were also three
automobiles parked in those bays. I did a search of the interior of those automobiles and found
nothing out of the ordinary.
Det. SWETLICK and I continued to search the outbuildings in the fenced off area and entered
the metallic shed that runs east and west directly to the west of the red shed. We entered the
shed at 1427 hours. Upon searching that shed, we determined that building was used to house
automobile parts and 5O-gallon drum containers. We exited that shed at 1433 hours.
Det. SWETLICK and I then entered the blue shed, which was west of the metallic shed. The
blue shed runs north and south. We entered the blue shed at 1436 hours. We located seven
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automobiles in the blue shed and found nothing out of the ordinary in the vehicles or in the shed.
We exited the blue shed at 1440 hours.
There was a red pickup truck setting in the fenced in area directly outside the blue shed door.
Det. SWETLICK and I looked in that vehicle and in the back of the vehicle, found some
woman's clothing. I did sort through the clothing and with the clothing was a cardboard box
titled, "AMY's bedroom." Upon looking at the pants in the back of this truck, it was determined
the pants were a size 15116.
I placed a telephone call to a female that would weigh approximately the same weight as
TERESA HALBACH and that female told me she wears a pant size of 718. The clothing in the
back of the red pickup truck was not seized.
I re-entered the red shed at 1445 hours and made contact with Officer BLOCK and Det. TECH.
Officer BLOCK informed me he had located three different stains on the concrete floor that he
felt could possibly be bloodstains. Officer BLOCK had labeled the three areas with number
placards. Officer BLOCK was taking photos of the stains.
Officer BLOCK used a sterile cotton swab and he added a few drops of distilled water to that
swab and placed the swab into the first stain on the floor, which was located next to an
automobile that was parked in the south bay. At 1507 hours, Officer BLOCK swabbed the first
stain. The swab was placed in a paper container, sealed and turned over to me. The stain was
directly next to a vehicle that had no registration plates but did have a VIN of
1 J4GZ5855SCs 1 0833.
Officer BLOCK then approached stain#2, which was directly behind the rear bumper of the
automobile. Officer BLOCK used a sterile cotton swab and added a couple drops of distilled
water to the swab and placed the swab directly into the middle of the stain. Officer BLOCK
swabbed the stain at 1510 hours. That cotton swab was placed in a paper container, sealed and
turrred over to me.
Officer BLOCK then proceeded to the area where stain #3 was located. Officer BLOCK used a
sterile cotton swab and added a few drops of distilled water to the swab and placed that swab
directly into the stain on the concrete floor. Officer BLOCK swabbed that stain at 1515 hours.
That swab was placed in a paper container, was sealed and tumed over to me.
Offrcer BLOCK and Det. TECH then measured the location of the stains on the garage floor.
Stain #1 was located 73Yz rnches from the rear bumper to the north. The stain was l3Yz inches to
the east from the passenger side of the automobile.
Stain #2 was l5Yz inches directly south of the rear bumper of the automobile.
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Stain #3 was 150 inches south from the rear bumper of the parked automobile. Officer BLOCK
drew a diagram, labeled those measurements and that diagram will be incorporated into this
report.
Another assignment was to search the residence of ALLAN and DOLORES AVERY. Officer
BLOCK, Det. SWETLICK, Det. TECH and I entered ALLAN and DOLORES AVERY's
residence through the open patio door. The time we entered that residence was 1550 hours.
Upon entering the residence, Officer BLOCK and Det. TECH walked around the residence
taking photographs.
Det. SWETLICK and I were in the north bedroom of the residence and, with the assistance of a
blue light, were able to determine that there were stains on the bedsheets in that bedroom. The
comforter and blanket had hairs on them as well. Det. SWETLICK and I collected the comfofier
and blanket at 1630 hours. The pillow shams and extra blanket were removed by Det.
SWETLICK and myself and seized at 1632 hours. There were no other items of interest in the
north bedroom.
We continued with our search to the room down the hallway, which was also another bedroom.
In the entranceway to that room, there was a firearm leaning up against the north wall. Det.
TECH and I searched that bedroom and found, with the assistance of a blue light, some stains on
the bedding in that room as well. The top blanket was seized at 1645 hours, the comforter was
seized at 1646 hours, the under blanket was seized aI 1648 hours, the sheet under blanket was
seized at 1650 hours, the pillowcase was collected at 1653 hours, and the mattress sheet was
collected at 1654 hours.
The firearm was removed from the bedroom and taken into the kitchen where Officer BLOCK
had an evidence box for that item. The firearm was identified as a 20 gauge single shot
Harrington & Richardson firearm. The firearm had a serial number of AU431409. That item
was seized at 1658 hours.
At 1715 hours, Officer BLOCK indicated he did locate a kitchen knife in the left side of the
kitchen sink. Officer BLOCK stated he lifted up a Tupperware container and found a kitchen
knife that had reddish brown stains on it. Officer BLOCK did seize that item and did photograph
that item. The knife was a Farberware knife with an approximate six-inch blade. The knife was
placed in an evidence box and was seized at ll20 hours.
Det. SWETLICK and Det. TECH informed me they searched the rest of the residence and found
nothing of evidentiary value.
We cleared from the ALLAN and DOLORES AVERY residence at 1725 hours.
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A11 items were placed in my squad car and secured by locking all doors.
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REPORTING
OFFICER: Deputy Joseph M. Tenor
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: Two Signed Search Warrants
Investigation continues.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Sunday,ll106105 at 1418 hrs., I did make contact with the following individual by telephone:
RANDALL L. WILLIAMS
DOB 09t24ts9
31 I I W. Sunset Ave.
Appleton, WI 54911
Phone 920-858-4936
WILLIAMS stated he had been watching the news recently and indicated that on Tuesday
afternoon, he was at AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE YARD. He indicated he observed a skid-
steer working in an area and felt that it was unusual. WILLIAMS states that he frequents various
auto salvage yards, and he will usually see forklifts moving equipment and cars shells but finds it
very unusual that a skid-steer was in the area.
WILLIAMS indicated that he had purchased some parts and when he went into the shop to pay,
he stated that he observed STEVEN AVERY sweeping the floor. WILLIAMS indicated that a
bearded individual tested the motor for the pop-up headlight that WILLIAMS had purchased.
WILLIAMS stated that his wife's relatives live in the Mishicot area. WILLIAMS stated he will
be coming through the area and would point out the location where he observed the skid-steer
operating. He described the skid-steer as being a yellow Bobcat type with a bucket. He stated
that the movement was taking place on Tuesday, 11101105 at between 1315 and 1330 hrs.
At 1740 hrs., on Sunday, 11106105, Det. JACOBS and I (DEDERING) did meet RANDALL
WILLIAMS at the roadblock at STH 147 and CTH Q, Town of Gibson. He did take us to the
area where he had observed the Bobcat working. This was in an area south and west of the "old
shop." Search dogs were directed to the area. WILLIAMS had indicated that the skid-steer was
working in an area where there was a large mound of, what appeared to me to be, engines andlor
transmissions.
WILLIAMS was then escorted back outside of the roadblock. WILLIAMS did not leave the
vehicle nor did he leave my care and custody while he was on the search scene.
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Upon receiving the information, I proceeded home from a hunting trip from Hurley, WI.
I arrived at the scene off of STH 147 and Avery Road in Manitowoc County. I anived at
approximately 1 500 hours.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
KATHLEEN T. STAHL
DOB 1Urst29
4132Twin Bridge Rd.
Mishicot, WI54228
Phone: 920-775-2973
Ms. STAHL indicated there had been a vehicle parked where her paper carier delivers the
newspaper for several days. She stated, however, that the vehicle was gone at night. She stated
the vehicle was there for three consecutive days. She described the vehicle as being a black, four
door van. She stated she saw this vehicle in the daytime, but it was always gone in the evening.
Ms. STAHL did have the opportunity to view a photograph of a RAV4 similar to that which was
owned and operated by TERESA HALBACH. Ms. STAHL indicated that it was possibly the
vehicle, however, the photograph which was displayed to her had stripes on the side of the unit
and Ms. HALBACH's did not.
Ms. STAHL indicated that during the first part of the week beginning 10/30/05, her dog was out
in the pen and did bark solidly for 20 minutes. She stated she did go out in an attempt to console
the dog and was unable to settle it down. She could give us no further information as to what
day of the week this had occurred.
Investigation continues.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: DNA Warrants
On Sunday, 11106105 at 1939 hours, I (DEDERING) did receive DNA and palm and fingerprint
Search Warrants from the Honorable Judge FOX at his residence. These Warrants were not
executed, were turned over to ADA FROEHLICH and subsequently re-issued.
Investigation continues.
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By Monday a.m., 11107105, we were able to organize alarger group of firemen and law
enforcement personnel to start doing ground searching on and around the AVERY property. We
also brought in approximately 60 state troopers to re-walk the salvage yard. The intent here was
to now try and attempt to locate any evidence other than TERESA's vehicle to see if TERESA
HALBACH had been on the AVERY property.
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Upon reporting to the crime scene on Monday,71l07l05,I (Sgt. TYSON) was informed that my
duty for the morning would be to work with Lt. LENK and Sgt. ANDREW COLBORN. I was
informed they did wish for us to open the trunks on all remaining vehicles on the property; and
after that was completed, enter all the residences and collect all firearms.
We began our search for any vehicles that did not have the trunks opened at STEVEN AVERY's
residence. We did not locate any vehicles on that property that did not have access to the trunk
area.
We proceeded to BARBARA JANDA's residence and did locate a blue i990 Chevrolet Caprice,
4-door, with no registration plates. The VIN was 1G1BL5470LR144158. Sg1. COLBORN did
enter BARBARA's residence because he said he searched her trailer the day before and noticed
there were a large number of car keys. We decided to attempt to use the keys inside the house to
see if any of these trunks could be opened without forcibly having to open them. Sgt.
COLBURN did enter BARBARA's residence at 0803 hours and did come back out at
approximately 0805 hours. Sgt. COLBURN did have a handful of keys and we did attempt to
open the trunk of the Chevrolet Caprice but was unsuccessful with any of the keys he had
located. Sgt. COLBURN did have to use a crowbar to forcibly enter the trunk of the Chevrolet
Caprice. No items of interest were located inside the Chevrolet Caprice.
There was also a white colored Pontiac Fiero with no registration plates parked on BARBARA
JANDA's property. The vehicle did have a VIN of 1G2AM37R2EP320356. Once again, none
of the keys that Sg1. COLBORN located would fit the trunk area for this vehicle.
At approximately 0817 hours, the trunk was forcibly opened by the use of a crowbar.
All remaining units on BARBARA JANDA's property were hatchbacks or van, which we could
see the interior of without having to damage the vehicle to look inside.
We then moved our search to all the vehicles that were parked in the fenced in area by the blue
metal building located north of the salvage yard. Forcible entry was made to the following
vehicles:
1 . A black Pontiac, bearing WI Registration 701 -CKK, with a VIN 1 G2WJ 1 4T3LF254289 .
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Sgt. COLBORN, Lt. LENK and I searched the outbuildings and did locate numerous vehicles
parked inside the outbuildings. Most of the vehicles did have the keys in the vehicle, which did
allow us to access the trunk area. Forcible entry did have to be made to a Chevrolet with no
registration plate that had the VIN of 1L69G9J320089. Forcible entry also had to be made to a
blue Chevrolet Monte Carlo, 2-door, which bore WI Registration926-GlL and had a VIN of
1G1G23728FR151577. It should be noted Sgt. COLBORN used a crowbar and a screwdriver to
gain entries into the trunk areas of these vehicles.
I did receive a telephone call from Inv. WIEGERT requesting we re-enter STEVEN AVERY's
residence to obtain the serial number off the computer that was located under the computer desk
in the living room.
At 0957 hours, Sgt. COLBURN, Lt. LENK and I entered STEVEN AVERY's residence and did
obtain the information that Inv. WIEGERT requested. I did telephone Inv. WIEGERT from
STEVEN AVERY's residence and informed him the computer was a Hewlett Packard HP
Pavilion model that had a system number of PP165AA-ABA and a serial number of
MXK5040MXH. Upon giving Inv. WIEGERT that information, we did exit STEVEN
AVERY's residence at 1004 hours.
Sgt. COLBORN, Lt. LENK and I continued our duties and entered BARBARA JANDA's
residence at 1007 hours with the intent to remove all firearms and ammunition from the
residence. The following is a list of firearms and ammunition seized from BARBARA
JANDA's residence:
1. A Sturm Ruger .223 caliber firearm with a serial number of 196-5 4277 . The firearm
had a Bushnell scope and had an ammunition clip that was loaded with three rounds.
Also with the firearm was a partial box of .223 cahber rounds. This item was located
in the master bathroom closet in its black plastic case. The firearm was collected by
Set. COLBORN at 1012 hours.
2. An unloaded 12 gauge Mossberg shotgun with a 24 inch rifled barrel, serial number
L303680. With the firearm were two partial boxes of ammunition. Box #1 was a .12
gauge rifled Federal slug. Box #2 was a Rottweil Brenneke MP70 millimeter rounds.
This item was collected by Sgt. COLBORN and Lt. LENK at 1015 hours and was
located in the master bedroom closet.
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As we finished collecting the firearms from the master bedroom, I received a phone call
indicating we needed to leave BARBARA JANDA's residence and respond to Kuss Rd. for a
suspicious incident. Lt. LENK, Sgt. COLBORN and I left BARBARA JANDA's residence at
1058 hours.
After clearing from the suspicious incident, we did go back to BARBARA JANDA's residence
to finish collecting firearms from the residence. At 1450 hours, Sgt. COLBORN, Lt. LENK and
I entered BARBARA JANDA's residence. Additional firearms collected from the residence
include:
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11. A12 gauge pump shotgun, no model number, serial numb er L302598. This item was
located in its tan-colored, zippered case and was collected by Sgt. COLBORN and Lt.
LENK at 1452 hours.
12. A .22 caliber semi-automatic Marlin rifle, Model No. 60SSK, with a BSA scope,
serial number 01091639. This item was located in the west bedroom and collected bv
Sgt. COLBORN and Lt. LENK at 1454 hours.
13. Also collected from that bedroom was a box of 30.06 Federal rounds.
We did locate a Stack On gun safe in the basement of BARBARA JANDA's residence, although
we could not gain entry into the safe without causing damage. Sgt. COLBORN was able to
shake the safe and he informed me it felt empty to him. I did make a notation we would attempt
to get the combination for that safe as to avoid causing damage to the Stack On safe.
Our search for firearms had ended and we exited BARBARA JANDA's residence at 1508 hours.
After clearing from BARBARA JANDA's residence, we were notified the WI STATE CRIME
LAB was on scene on Kuss Rd. and we were requested to come back to the area to assist the WI
STATE CRIME LAB.
Upon our arrival, the potential area of suspicion had been blocked off by crime scene tape and I
did check in with Inv. DEDERING. I notified him that Set. COLBORN, Lt. LENK and I would
be entering the crime scene area to assist the WI STATE CRIME LAB. It shall be noted this was
an area that was discovered earlier in the day by search volunteers who had located an area
approximately three feet by three feet that appeared to be disturbed soil.
After the photography by the WI STATE CRIME LAB was completed, Lt. LENK, Sgt.
COLBORN and I began digging up the area and quickly found out this was not a possible grave
or burial site. Upon reporting those findings to Inv. DEDERING, the crime scene tape had been
removed and the area was reopened.
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On 11107105 at approximately 8:50 a.m., I (Inv. WENDY BALDWIN) met with personnel from
the MISHICOT FIRE DEPT. who had brought their jaws/cutting tools to assist with opening the
crushed vehicles in the pit area. We started cutting open the vehicles at approximately 8:50 a.m.
and concluded at approximately 12:20 p.m. Approximately 54 vehicles were opened by means
of having the roof cut off and searched; however, nothing was found.
At approximately 1315 hours, I was requested to standby the garbage bum barrel at STEVEN
AVERY's house until evidence technicians arrived on scene. I did standby with this until
approximately 1539 hours, when the barrel was recovered by CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S
DEPT. Deputy KEN MATUSZAK.
After completing that I did assist with searching the field northwest of STEVEN AVERY's
property.
At approximately 1900 hours, Assistant District Attorney JEFF FROHLICH, Det. DENNIS
JACOBS from MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. and I made contact with the Honorable
Judge FOX at his residence. Honorable Judge FOX did sign the Search Warrant for the
computer of STEVEN AVERY and for the DNA collection for the following people:
o ALLAN AVERY
o BRYAN DASSEY
o CHARLES AVERY
o BOBBY DASSEY
o DOLORES AVERY
o BARBARA JANDA
o EARL AVERY
o STEVEN AVERY
Those Search Warrants were signed and I signed them as received and they were tumed over to
Inv. MARK WIEGERT.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Monday, Ill07l05 at 1028 hours, I (DEDERING) did make contact with the following
individual by telephone regarding this matter:
MICHELLE J. KANZELBERGER
DOB 06109t7r
1620 New York Ave.
Manitowoc, WI
Home Phone: 920-682-37 7 9
Cell Phone : 920-242-0525
Employed as a Teacher at Washington Jr. High School
Phone: 920-683 -4857 . Ext. 57 60
KANZELBERGER indicated she had been engaged to EARL AVERY for two years and that
their relationship was from 1987 to 1989. She stated she lived on the AVERY land during the
weekend and was very familiar with the property. She indicated she would be willing to assist
the investigators in any way she could regarding any sort of historical information and
geographical layout. One thing that I did find of interest was that Ms. KANZELBERGER
indicated that STEVEN AVERY was not the only family member capable of this sort of
behavior.
Investigation continues.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
I did respond to the area and spoke with retired Deputy Inspector MICHAEL BUSHMAN,
MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. BUSHMAN was leading ateam of searchers in the
area. It should be noted that the end of Kuss Road is approximately one half mile away from the
western edge of the AVERY property.
I arrived at the east end of Kuss Rd. at approximately 1045 hours and spoke with former Deputy
Inspector BUSHMAN. He indicated he had found a possible excavation site and did take us to
the site.
The area was then taped off with crime scene tape and the area was frozen. No one was allowed
in or out.
The possible excavation area was processed by WI STATE CRIME LAB personnel and at 1651
hours, I was notified the excavation area was not pertinent to this case. GPS coordinates for this
area were N44 degrees 15.263 and W87 degrees 42.031.
Investigation continues.
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I assisted SARAH FAUSKE, a patrol officer from the KAUKALINA POLICE DEPARTMENT
and herbloodhound, LOOF, with tracking. FAUSKE and I walked the RADANDT QUARRY
and field area on different tracks. We covered approximately five to ten miles of tracking. One
of the more significant tracks that LOOF and FAUSKE tracked was from the south entry door of
the red house trailer near the concrete stoop. This track did continue in a westerly direction
toward a cul-de-sac at the end of Kuss Road. It was indicated by FAUSKE that LOOF was very
intense on this track,
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On 11107105 at approximately 1135 hours, Fire Fighter PAUL HUIZENGA, DOB 06122167,
located four shotgun shells. These shells were approximately 30" south of the conveyor near an
entrance to a gravel pit. These shells were approximately 20' east of the sock. These shells were
red plastic and a shiny aluminum. The shells did not show any rust. They appeared to have been
placed there recently. The area where these shells were located was marked with cones.
I remained in the vicinity to monitor the sock and shotgun shell locations until Cpl. LESLIE
LEMIEUX of the CALUMET couNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT relieved me.
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Lisa K. Buchner
DOB 07t04t75
14204 CTH Q
Two Rivers, WI 54241
Telephone number: 755-3165
on 11107105 at 12:00 p.m., I (Inv. MARK WIEGERT of the CALUMET CoUNTy SHERIFF,S
DEPARTMENT) met with LISA BUCHNER inside the command post at the AVERY property.
LISA informed me she was a school bus driver and would pick up several children at the
AVERY properly and drop them off. LISA states sometime between Monday, l0/31/05, and
Wednesday,7ll02l05, she saw a female taking pictures around 3:30 p.m. I asked LISA if she
could be more specific as to the date to which she stated she could not, she just knows it was
sometime either Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday. LISA told me she drops off the two boys that
live down the lane. She believes their names are BRENDAN and BLAINE DASSEy. She
states she comes down Avery Lane and drops them off at the beginning of the driveway, which
goes to the west. LISA states she remembers a van being parked at the entrance to the driveway
pointed eastbound. She states the van would have been parked at the intersection of Avery Lane
and the driveway on the north side of the road, again pointed east. She stated the unknown
female was standing in the grass north of where the van would have been parked taking pictures.
LISA stated to me, "I thought to myself why would anyone take pictures of that jrok.',-
I asked LISA if anyone was with the female. She stated she did not recall anyone being with her.
She states there was a Grand Prix and a truck also parked in that area. She said it is the same two
vehicles that are parked there now; however, the van was not there now.
I asked LISA if she observed the boys talking or associating with the female to which LISA
stated she does not remember if they talked to her or not when they got off the bus.
I asked LISA if she knew anything about the weather that day to which she stated she does not
remember anything about the weather. LISA indicated nothing about that day stands out. She
stated she just remembered this on Saturday, 11105105, and thought it would be important that we
would know this information.
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After JOHN ERTL, CHARLES CATES and GUANG ZHANG left the CALUMET COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, I continued logging in items that were received from the AVERY
residence.
Deputy KENNETH R. MATUSZAK picked up the trailer and brought the trailer back to the
scene.
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Upon arrival at the sheriff s department, the trailer was backed into the maintenance garage. The
garuge was then secured and evidence tape was placed on the doors. It should be noted on the
trailer in which the burning barrel was placed, there are three doors. All three doors were
secured with a padlock. The keys for the padlocks were placed in an evidence locker at the
sheriff s department.
As of this time, I have nothing further to add to this reporl. Any further information will be
added in a supplemental report.
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On 11107105, I (Deputy DAN KUCHARSKI) was instructed to respond to the crime scene at
STH 147 and Avery Rd. Upon arrival, I was given the assignment to collect a rifle out of the
residence located aI12928 Avery Rd.
At 1700 hours, I entered the residence and found the rifle next to the refrigerator on the east wall
of the residence very near the door that I entered. I photographed and collected the rifle. The
rifle was a Marlin model 6055 .22 caliber semiautomatic rifle. I ended the collection at 1718
hours.
I was then given the assignment to collect three weapons and ammunition from the new shop
building near the residence at 12928 Avery Rd.
At 1723 hours, I entered the new shop building and entered the private office area in the
northwest corner of the building. Inside the desk in the private office I found three handguns and
ammunition. I photographed and collected all three handguns. I found two .25 caliber
semiautomatic pistols in the drawers on the right-hand side of the desk. On the left-hand side of
the desk in a storage area, I found and collected a Colt .22 caliber semiautomatic pistol. In the
middle drawer of the desk, I located a MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. badge and a
GREEN BAY POLICE DEPT. badge. I collected these two badges also. I ended the collection
of these items at 1807 hours.
I responded to the sheriff s office in Calumet County to enter the items that I collected into
evidence storage. These items that had been collected were in my physical control from the time
of collection until the time I entered them into evidence storage at the sheriff s department.
After entering the evidence, I stood by at the north garage while WI STATE CRIME LAB
personnel processed several burn barrels for evidence. I was present from 1 945 hours until they
finished the processing for the night at 2ll3 hours.
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Joshua R. Radandt
DOB lul0t74
3510 W. Twin Lane
Two Rivers, WI 54241
Cell phone number: 920-374-1158
OnfU07l05 at approximately 1900 hours, I (Inv. WIEGERT) met with JOSHUA RADANDT at
the AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE property. It should be noted JOSHUA would be part owner of
the gravel pits on the south edge of the AVERY property. It should be noted JOSHUA had
previously given us written permission to enter and search all of his property, which surrounds
the AVERY property.
JOSHUA stated he wished to talk to me about a phone call he had received. He stated that on
11106105 at approximately 1900 hours, he received a call at his residence from a person
identifyrng himself as CHUCK (CHARLES) AVERY. JOSHUA thought this was somewhat
peculiar because he does not have any regular contact with CHARLES on the telephone or
otherwise. When CHARLES called JOSHUA, he asked JOSHUA, "What was going on down
there." CHARLES also asked JOSHUA if we (meaning law enforcement) were searching
JOSHUA's pits. CHARLES told JOSHUA he should keep him informed as to what was going
on down there because he was not in the area. CHARLES did make the comment to JOSHUA
he was going to lose at least $ 1,000.00 a day for not being able to be in the salvage yard and he
was worried this was going to give him a bad name because of everything that has been on the
news.
I then thanked JOSHUA for his time and we ended our conversation. I ended the interview at
1910 hours.
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On 11/08/05 at 0630 hours, I (Deputy DAN KUCHARSKI) responded to the scene at STH 147
and Avery Rd. Upon arival, I was given the assignment by Lt. BOWE to recover two weapons
out of a yellow vehicle that was parked by the shop office at the new shop.
At 0738 hours, Lt. LENK, Sgt. COLBORN and I searched a yellow vehicle with the plate of
343JVF and collected two shotguns and a belt full of ammunition from the trunk of the vehicle.
We ended the search of the vehicle at0748 hours.
Back at the command post, we were given the assignment by Lt. BOWE to go to the residence at
12932 Avery Rd. and conduct a thorough search of the residence. We were instructed to take
into evidence any pornographic material, the computer in the living room, any computer related
storage devices, and to take sample swabs of suspected blood spots in the bathroom of the
residence. We were also instructed to thoroughly search the residence for any other types of
evidence.
At 0825 hours, Lt. LENK, SeI. COLBORN and I responded to 12932 Avery Rd. and began the
search.
I photographed and collected the Hewlett Packard computer that was in the living room of the
residence. Also collected was miscellaneous computer equipment and storage devices from the
area around the computer. At 0850 hours, DAN VAN OSS, Badge #7Q2, entered the residence,
took possession of the computer and collected storage devices. At 0855 hours, he left the
residence transporting the computer to be processed for evidence collection.
We then began a search of the residence. All three of us went to the back bedroom in the
residence and searched for evidence. It was a relatively small bedroom and we were in visual
and verbal contact with each other at all times while searching this bedroom. There were no
areas in the bedroom where any of us would have been out of contact with each other at any time
being that it was so small. I photographed and collected pornographic material found in the
bedroom. I also photographed and collected miscellaneous ammunition found in the bedroom, a
cloth rope and a pillow with a red stain on it.
We were nearing completion of the search of the bedroom. I was at the northeast corner of the
bed, Sgt. COLBORN was approximately two to three feet away from me finishing up the search
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of a desk area, and Lt. LENK was approximately one foot from me finishing up the search of a
cabinet located next to the desk. Lt. LENK had gone through the cabinet and then he and Sgt.
COLBORN moved the cabinet around looking for pictures stuck in the back of the cabinet. I
was in visual contact when they were doing this as they were only a couple of feet away from
me. Sgt. COLBORN began to put the books that were taken out of the cabinet back into it. He
was having some resistance against the books, they were caught on something, and he pushed on
the books banging them into the back and top of the cabinet. Lt. LENK left the room to call the
command post for some boxes for the pornographic materials that we had found. Sgt.
COLBORN went back to searching through the magazines under the desk area. I was
completing the search of the nightstand. After approximately two minutes, Lt. LENK came back
to the room. He entered the doorway of the room approximately one foot away from me, pointed
to the floor and said, "There's a key here." He pointed to the floor next to the cabinet by a pair
of men's slippers. All three of us looked at the key that was lying on the floor. The emblem on
the key appeared to be a Toyota manufacturer's emblem. The key was connected to a blue
canvas key fob with a black buckle on the end of it approximately two to four inches in length.
Immediately we stopped searching.
I photographed the location of the key. I collected the key and placed it into an evidence bag.
The bag was a brand new evidence bag out of the stack of bags that I brought into the residence
from my evidence kit. I was wearing rubber gloves when I collected the key. When I went to
pick up the key, I used a fresh pair of gloves that were new directly out of the package. At the
time the key was first found, I had already taken off my rubber gloves from the previous
searching because we were almost finished searching the room. At no time did I handle any
other pieces of evidence or any other items inside the bedroom or inside the trailer with this pair
of gloves. At no time did Lt. LENK or Sgt. COLBORN touch or have physical control of the
key. From this point forward, I had the key in my physical control.
I called the command post and informed them that we had found this key. Special Agent TOM
FASSBENDER and CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. Inv. MARK WIEGERT came to the
residence to look at the key. With my gloved hand, I took the key out of the evidence bag and
retaining physical control of it, I showed it to them. They left the residence saying they would be
sending a special agent back to take possession of the key to immediately take it to the crime lab
in Madison for processing. I secured the key back into the evidence bag and sealed the bag with
red evidence tape putting my initials on the tape. Special Agent TOM FASSBENDER and
Special Agent MATTHEW JOY, Badge #N516, came back to the residence at short time later.
Special Agent JOY took physical control of the evidence bag containing the key. I filled out the
Evidence/Property Custody sheet and had Special Agent JOY sign that he had taken possession
of this piece of evidence. Special Agent JOY left the residence and we continued with the search
and collection of evidence.
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We concluded our search and collection efforts inside the residence and walked around the
perimeter of the outside of the residence. I observed, photographed and collected a piece of duct
tape located undemeath the front deck of the residence on the east side of the residence. The
assignment was concluded at 1218 hours.
At 1219 hours, Lt. LENK, Sgt. COLBORN and I went to the garage next to 12932 Avery Rd.
We were sent to look for evidence of a matching tool set of a wrench-type tool found in the
victim's vehicle. We searched through the garage finding no additional evidence to collect or
photograph. We finished this assignment at 1245 hours.
We retumed to the command post and Lt. BOWE gave us the assignment of collecting weapons
and ammunition from the residence at 72928 Avery Rd. Lt. BOWE also stated to conduct a
thorough search of the residence for any other possible evidence.
Lt. LENK, Sg1. COLBORN and I began the search a|1326 hours of the residence at 12928
Avery Rd.
Inv. STEIER gave us the combination to a safe inside the residence. We entered the residence. I
opened the safe, photographed and collected five rifles, two shotguns and miscellaneous
ammunition from the safe. I also photographed and collected the bed sheets from the bedroom
nearest the entry door. The bed sheets had red stains on them. I also photographed and collected
a pillowcase with red stains located in the living room.
After we concluded the search of the inside of the residence, we walked around the perimeter of
the residence. I photographed and collected duct tape from the bed of a pickup truck that was
parked next to the residence. The plate number on the truck was AC627L I also photographed
and collected a coin purse that was in the glove box of this same vehicle. Inside the coin prrrr.
were four single dollar bills, one five dollar bill, two ten dollar bills, 28 quarters, one nickel and
seven dimes. The search of the residence was concluded at 1619 hours.
All evidence that I collected was kept in my physical control. I transported this evidence to the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT and entered it into evidence storage. The
only evidence that I did not enter into storage were the two items, Hewlett Packard computer and
miscellaneous storage devices, taken by VAN OSS from the crime scene and the key that was
taken by Special Agent JOY from the crime scene.
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I was advised to go with Deputy DANIEL KUCHARSKI into the residence of STEVEN
AVERY and take possession of both Item Numbers 1 and 2,TagNumbers 7616 and,7617. Also
with us was a MANITOWOC COUNTY OFFICER, name unknown, who is one of the evidence
technicians for the MANITOWOC COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. I stood in the
living room and waited for the hard drive (or tower) to be removed and tagged by Deputy
KUCHARSKI. I also observed the individuals gather miscellaneous computer equipment and
storage devices and place them into a brown paper bag. I observed them seal the bag with
evidence tape and tag it with Property Tag Number 7617. After the items were tagged and
sealed, Deputy KUCHARSKI and I removed these items from the residence and placed them
into the CALUMET couNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT transpoft van.
I starled my transport to the GRAND CHUTE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I started at 8:58 a.m.
with starting mileage of 5199.8.
It should be noted I had called our dispatch center to have the mileage recorded. While waiting
for the dispatcher to enter all the information, 2.8 miles should be subtracted from the 5199.8
mileage.
At10:12 a.m.,I radioed our dispatch center to inform them that I was at GRAND CHUTE
POLICE DEPARTMENT with the two items.
I tumed both items over to Inv. MIKE VELIE. I had Inv. VELIE sign the Evidence property
Document and I also released it to him.
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On Tuesday, 11/08i05, at 0856 hours, I (DEDERING) along with Det. JACOBS of the
MANITOWOC SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT did begin to review audio conversations that were
recorded in the MANITOWOC COUNTY JAIL between STEVEN AVERY and JODI
STACHOWSKI. JODI is currently incarcerated at the MANITOWOC COUNTY JAIL.
JACOBS and I did begin to review calls placed between 10/30/05 and 11104105. These were
calls placed to STEVEN's home phone number. I subsequently did make a CD copy of these
phone calls, 12 in number, at approximately 12:00 p.m. noon on 11/08/05. The CD can be found
entered into evidence regarding this matter.
I also did make copies of phone conversations between JODI STACHOWSKI from the
MANITOWOC COUNTY JAIL and STEVEN AVERY that had been placed to STEVEN's
cellular phone. These phone calls numbered 10 and a CD was made of this information on
1 1/08/05 at 1425 hours. This CD can also be found entered in evidence regarding this matter.
The copies of the CD's that Det. JACOBS provided me were ultimately logged into the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT evidence room under Prooertv Tas Nos.
7827 and7828.
Investigation continues.
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On 11/08/05, JOHN ERTL, CHARLES CATES and GUANG ZHANG from the WI STATE
CRIME LAB arrived at the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. The three
barrels that were remaining at the sheriff s department, a barrel Deputy MATUSZAK had
brought back from the AVERY property and the Suzuki Samurai door were signed over to
JOHN ERTL. While JOHN ERTL, CHARLES CATES and GUANG ZHANG were going
through the barrels, I again continued logging in evidence once it arrived from the crime scene at
the AVERY property.
I contacted District Attorney (DA) KENNETH KRATZ and asked DA KRATZ about keeping
the barrels. I was advised by DA KRATZthat the barrels from the AVERY properly would
remain in evidence. DA KRATZ also wanted the barrel marked #4 that was returned to the
AVERY property to be brought back. After talking with DA KRATZ, arrangements were made
for long-term storage in the back garage of the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT.
I was advised by the CALUMET COUNTY COMMAND POST, located on the AVERY
property, to get some items that were brought back from the AVERY property ready for pick-up
by DCI Agent MATTHEY JOY to be transported to the WI STATE CRIME LAB located in
Madison:
Also gathered to be sent with DCI Agent JOY to the WI STATE CRIME LAB were 22 swabs of
possible bloodstain from Sgt. BILL TYSON of the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT and Deputy DAN KUCHARSKI of the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT. The swabs bore Property Tag Nos. 639, 651 through 659,7120 through 7122,
7177 throudn7199,7104 through 7105, and 8115 through 8116.
A knife with a red,/brown stain, bearing Property Tag No. 7123, that was turned over by Sgt.
TYSON, a floor mat with stains and also a rag with a red stain, that was turned over by Deputy
KUCHARSKI, was placed in the box for DCI Agent JOY to transport.
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Once JOHN ERTL, CHARLES CATES and GUANG ZHANG were finished with the four
barels, the barrels and the Suzuki door were signed over to my custody. The barrels were put
into the long-term secure area of the back garage. The Suzuki door was brought down and
placed behind the locked cage.
When DCI Agent JOY arrived at the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, he
stated he received a Toyota key from Deputy KUCHARSKI while at the scene, to be transported
to the WI STATE CRIME, LAB located in Madison. I received the paperwork for the Toyota
key from DCI Agent JOY. DCI Agent JOY was given a transmittal letter and also a cover letter
with the items I was requested to send to the WI STATE CRIME LAB. DCI Agent JOY signed
for the evidence that he came to pick up to transport of the WI STATE CRIME LAB.
After the items were given to DCI Agent JOY, I continued logging items that were obtained
from the AVERY residence.
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Interview of:
Michelle J. Kanzelberger
DOB 06t09t71
1620 New York Ave.
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Phone: 682-3779
Cell Phone:242-0525
Work Phone: 683-4857
On 11/08/05, I (lnv. WENDY BALDWIN) and Inv. GARY STEIER were requested by Inv.
WIEGERT to make contact with MICHELLE KANZELBERGER, who is an ex-girlfriend of
EARL AVERY. Inv. STEIER and I did make contact with MICHELLE at WASHINGTON JR.
HIGH SCHOOL. She is a teacher at the school.
I asked MICHELLE to describe CHARLES and anything she could remember about him.
MICHELLE said CHARLES is the oldest brother of the family. She said he was married twice
and was accused of raping his oldest daughter. She described CHARLES as being quiet and to
himself with not many friends. She said he is very creepy and sneaky. She said he is a very
smooth talker and slick. She said CHARLES would try to sweet talk females rather than using
violence to get what he wanted. MICHELLE recalled an incident in 1988 where he attempted to
force sex on her. She said it was approximately 1 1:00 a.m. and that she had laid down in the bed
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in the green house. She said CHARLES came into the bedroom and was trying to seduce and
sweet talk her into having sex with him. She said he was clothed and was smoking a cigar at the
time. She said CHARLES never did have sex with her; however, he tried to sweet talk and
persuade her into doing that. She said she did not feel very good about what had happened and
had told EARL about it. MICHELLE said EARL had later gotten into a fight with CHARLES
and they had been hitting each other with shovels.
MICHELLE described DOLORES as always covering up for her children when they would do
things. She said after that incident, DOLORES had changed the bedding and had straightened
the bedroom. MICHELLE knew that she did this so the ashes from CHARLES's cigar were not
there. MICHELLE said that, at a much later time, DOLORES did admit to changing the bedding
because it had looked a mess.
MICHELLE described CHARLES as being the main person running the business. She said he
would always be there and seemed to be the boss.
I asked MICHELLE what kind of hobbies EARL and CHARLES had. She said they both did
hunt and fish a lot. MICHELLE did indicate ceftain areas where EARL used to spend time.
MICHELLE said that other than his brothers, CHARLES did not have any other friends and has
spent a lot of time by himself.
I asked MICHELLE if she could describe STEVEN AVERY. She said she did not know much
about him because he was in jail or prison during most of the time that she was with EARL.
MICHELLE did know STEVEN was married to LORI and that while they were still married and
STEVEN was in jail, STEVEN had made a proposition to EARL to have sex with his wife,
LORI. MICHELLE said at first EARL and LORI did not want to d.o that, but they had ended up
having sex for approximately two years. MICHELLE said EARL would have been fifteen when
this happened and had stopped when he was about 17, which was shortly after she met him.
MICHELLE indicated that of the brothers, she did think, shortly after hearing the news, that
STEVEN may have been the one that had done this. She did state, however, after rethinking
things, she thinks CHARLES may have something to do with it. She said it would not surprise
her if CHARLES framed STEVEN.
MICHELLE had made earlier reference to certain areas that she used to go with EARL and knew
some of the areas they used to fish. I did ask if MICHELLE would be willing to show us these
areas, which she did. The first area that MICHELLE had showed us was a forest called DRALL
(ph) MEMORIAL FOREST located just off STH 147. MICHELLE said there had been an
incident between her and EARL where he had pushed her down in the seat and when she got up,
they were in this forest area by some caves. She said EARL had originally forced sex on her,
however, she did later consent to it. MICHELLE said EARL also had a fascination with an area
over by Buffalo Springs. She said there had been two girls that died in a car accident and he was
obsessed with that area as well as the girls that had died. She did show us that area, however,
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she thought the tree was gone that he used to go by. She said he used to listen to a cassette tape
that the girls were playing when they crashed the car. She also said there was an area where she
had been once with a pond that wasn't far from where EARL lived. After doing some checking,
we did find that area. This was located at 13803 CTH Q.
Inv. STEIER did make contact with MILTON MEILE (ph) who did sign a Permission to Search
form. Located on that property were three ponds surrounding the area. This information was
given to the command post for possible searching later in the day.
MICHELLE said when she was in high school they had gone to aparly at this pond. She also
informed us that CHARLES and EARL used to do a lot of f,rshing on HARPS (ph) LAKE.
MICHELLE said they did spend a lot of time catching crawfish, ice fishing and fishing during
the summer. She said if EARL would have done something like this, he may have taken the
person to one of these areas. MICHELLE said STEVEN may have possibly taken her someplace
else, however, did not know where. MICHELLE said if CHARLES had done something like
this, he wouldn't have been smart enough to take a body off of the property.
Inv. MARK WIEGERT did request that I would go to the MANITOWOC CO. CLERK OF
COURTS office to have Subpoenas signed by the judge. Those included ALLAN AVERY's
CELLCOM WIRELESS phone records and CHARLES AVERY's SPRINT WIRELESS phone
records.
At approximately 1400 hours, I did make contact with the Honorable Judge WILLIS who did
sign several Subpoenas for Inv. WIEGERT. Those Subpoenas were signed and later tumed over
to him.
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On Tuesday morning, 11/08/05, shortly after 9:00 a.m., we were advised by a trooper that he and
his firemen paftner had located TERESA's auto license plates along the norlh border of the
salvage yard. These plates would have been located in a station wagon just west of the new
building. This station wagon would have been parked between the fenced in compound to the
east and an old trailer to the west. I (Lt. SIPPEL) responded to the location and made contact
with Trooper CINDY L. PAINE. Trooper PAINE already had started taking information in
regards to who had walked in an out of the crime scene. We then taped off the area. I (Lt.
SIPPEL) retumed to the command post.
At approximately 12:03 p.m., I took the WI STATE CRIME LAB team back to the area where
the license plates were recovered and they began to process the scene. I again returned to the
command post.
Shortly after 1340 hours, on Tuesday, 11/08/05, I had the opportunity to speak with Sgt. JOST
with the MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. Sgt. JOST indicated to me there had been a
large burned area behind the red garage on the AVERY property located in the northwest corner
of the property. He felt that this area may not have gotten searched properly based on the fact
that there was a large German Shephard in the immediate area.
I then responded to that location with him where we took a look at the burn area. Inside the burn
area,I observed a small grayish material that appeared to be bone. Sgt. JOST also pointed out a
piece located in front of me and to my right at which time I could tell that the item he was
referring to appeared to be bone. He also pointed out a large piece, which was directly in front
of me and to my right. This bone, from looking at it, appeared to be part of a person's spinal
column. In these two items, I could observe from where I was sitting a honeycombing and their
center mass. This honeycombing was familiar to me due to the fact that as a child my parents
owned a butcher shop and at times we would bum some of the bones of the animals that we
butchered; and when cleaning out a our burn area, I had the opportunity to observe this same
type of event happen in those bones as what I was seeing in the bones within the pit. As we were
.looking at these particular items, two STATE OF WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT OF
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION (DCI) agents approached our position; one individual I know as
TOM STURDIVANT and the other individual is a female agent and I do not have her name. I
informed the agents that we observed what we felt were several pieces of bone. It should also
be noted that prior to checking the bum area,I observed that the area had not been disturbed. It
appeared that due to the previous heavy rains we had through the weekend, that being Saturday
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night/Sunday moming where we received approximately an inch plus in rain, there was a crust
over the top of the burn area, the burned ash and materials. It did not appear as if anybody had
previously dug into or moved anlthing within the pile. The two items that we observed were
lying directly on the top. With the two agents on scene, I then moved out of the location and
advised the command post that we had possibly found some bones. Sgt. JOST remained back
with the two DCI agents. When we located the WI STATE CRIME LAB, they later returned to
the location to excavate it. I (Lt. SIPPEL) went off duty at approximately 1500 hours.
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TYPE OF ACTIVITY: Contact with Det. Pete McGintv. Two Rivers Police
Department
MCGINTY further stated that on 11107105, a subject named JUDITH C. KNUTSEN had
contacted the TWO RIVERS POLICE DEPARTMENT indicatins she had had a similar situation
take place regarding CHARLES.
It should be noted that on llll5l05, Det. MCGINTY did send me an eight page facsimile
transmittal. The facsimile transmittal contained written statements from Ms. LAVORA as well
as Ms. KNUTSEN. Ms. LAVORA's statement is as follows:
"In November 2003 I was living at 916 Parking Crt, Two Rivers. I called Avery
Auto Salvage to have tw'o vehicles removedfrom my properQ. I left a message and
Chuck Avery called me back. I explained to Chuck that I had t*-o vehicles that needed to
be towed. I was told it would be no charge. The next day when I was home Chttck Avery
came and towed both vehicles. I contacted Chuck and pointed at the vehicles needing to
be towed. I then thanked Chuckfor coming.
A few days later Chuck Avery called my cell phone. Chuck asked me if I wanted
to go out to diner. I said no. Chuck kept telling me he wanted to take me out I continued
saying no. Chuck had called 4-5 times asking me out to diner. Each time I said no.
After these calls sometime I returned.from work to .find a box of candy and a note
betw'een my screen door and inner door. The note had Chuck's nqme qnd number on it.
I later received a messqge on my cell phone from Chuck. Chuck asked if I got his candy
and if I would go out with him. Chuck's messages seemed like he was mad because I was
not calling him back
About a week later while home I heard my door bell ring. Before opening the
door, I looked out my window' and saw Chuck Avery walking away from my door and to
his vehicle. I shut my door and locked it. I saw that Chuck had left a long box wrapped
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in gift paper. Wen I opened the box Ifound an envelope inside with a $100 bill. I don't
remember if there was a note inside The next day I received another voice message on
my cell phone. Chuck's message was that by now I should have received his gift and I
shuld spend it on something nice.
Over the next 3 weelts, Chuck called me abut 6-7 times continueing to ask me out.
I was afraid of Averyfor his contineing to contact me I told several co workers about
Chuck Avery's actions. The candy Avery left at my huse I brought to work.for my co
workers to eat. I might still have the notes left at my house by Avery. If I.find them I w,ill
turn them over to Det McGinty"
"ln July of 2005, I talked to Virgil LaFlash, my supervisor, about getting a part
from his brother-in-law "Earl Avery" for my Intrepid. Virgil brought part to work and I
wrote out a checkfor 45.00 Jbr Earl Avery.
After I purchased the part, my neighbor came to the door and told me that a
"middle-aged man in a older red station wagon, went past my house very slow and took
pictures of only my house.fiom lot line to lot line".
Oct. 17, 2005 approx 6:00 PM my car vv*as onfire outside when notified by a man
going by on his bike. TRPD & TRFD arrived. Fire put out by my ex husband and
neighbor Fritz. Car towed to Petersons gas station in T.R. - Averys' ttere notified and
they retreived my carfor the $140.00 towing charge to Peterson.
Oct 30, 2005 - My superviser gave me a note to call Averys to go out to there property
maybe at Oct. 3I , 2005 to get my belongings out of my car. I didn't go because I w'orked
O.T. until 3:00 pm (Federal Mogel) than realized I needed to help my sonfor Hallow'een.
(thank god)
Wed. Nov. 2 - I called Averys' to.find out about my car and my belongings. Chuck
answered the phone. He stated "he had been to my house on Tues. Nov. I between l:00
& 2:00 and he rang the door bell and I wasn't home". Asked him iJ he had the wrong
house and he said "No". Talked about my car, than he switched and he asked if "I
would go out to dinner with him". I said "YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ME". He said
"Virgil told him all about me". Made some excuse and got olf the phone.
Fri. Nov. 4'h. He stopped at my house with my belongings that he sorted from my car.
(didn't call to notify me.) I signed over the title to him. As he was leaving he said "by
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the way, the offer still stands". He than wished me a "Happy Birthday". I screamed-
How
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Prior to asking any questions, Det. JACOBS did review JODI's "Miranda" rights with her. She
indicated she would waive those rights but did state STEVEN AVERY's lawyers told her not to
talk unless they were present. JACOBS did note this on the Miranda waiver. I did follow up this
statement and did get the understanding from her that she was speaking voluntarily even though
STEVEN AVERY's attorneys had told her not to speak with law enforcement unless they were
present.
JODI indicated her hobbies include watching NASCAR, fishing, snowmobiling and ice fishing.
She states she also likes to go for rides and walk on the beach, as well as spend time "up north."
JODI states she has in the past fished with STEVEN and the AVERY family. She states she will
usually fish with STEVEN, CHUCKIE (CHARLES) and STEVEN's nephews. She states the
majority of the fishing is done in the Marinette County area.
JODI states she and STEVEN will ride around and look for automobiles to purchase. She states
this is how STEVEN makes the majority of his income. She states STEVEN will buy
automobiles for very little money and resell them at a decent mark up.
JODI indicates she no longer consumes beverages, as she is currently doing a period of
incarceration in the MANITOWOC COUNTY JAIL for an OWI - 5'n Offense. She stated she
was arrested for this offense in May, 2004. JODI states she moved in with STEVEN AVERY in
June,2004.
JODI states both she and STEVEN are "clean freaks" and JODI stated she did all of the cleaning
until she was incarcerated at the MANITOWOC COUNTY JAIL. JODI indicated she almost
always makes the bed when she arises. She states she is not sure whether STEVEN would make
the bed or not, as he always arises before she. She stated she has never been separated from
STEVEN since they began living together, even for an overnight, until approximately 08/15/05
when JODI reported to jail. JODI stated it is her job to clean the residence as long as she is
home all day (she is unemployed). JODI further indicates that her chores consist of cutting the
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grass, cleaning the pool and doing laundry. She states STEVEN can do his own laundry but she
would prefer him to not as he will occasionally mix whites and colors.
JODI states last year was the only year she went snowmobiling with the family and she stated
this was predominately done on the 140 to 160 acres the AVERY family owns in Marinette
County. She states STEVEN and she did not avail themselves of any trails, staying strictly on
the AVERY property. She stated while they were in Marinette County, they would stay at
STEVEN's parents' two-story, four bedroom home.
JODI went on to indicate that ALLAN AVERY spends most of his time in Marinette County,
coming back to the auto salvage business on Tuesday and then leaving again on Thursday. She
indicates ALLAN is retired and EARL and CHARLES own the business. She stated STEVEN
helps out with the business a couple hours a day. She states she has no idea as to how or if
STEVEN is paid.
JODI states when STEVEN is not at work, he is in the garage working on vehicles or driving
around looking for vehicles to buy.
JODI states anytime STEVEN is not working, STEVEN and JODI are together. She states he
will, on occasion, go with the family up north; however, they remain in cell phone contact during
this time. Once again, JODI indicated she has never had an ovemight stay away from STEVEN
since she began living with him (other than during her incarceration).
JODI states STEVEN has no friends that stop over at the property. She states the only visitors to
STEVEN's mobile home would be his sister, BARBARA, and BARBARA's children. She
states STEVEN has no friends over and will occasionally talk to a TAMMY LNU who calls for
parts. She states that to her knowledge, STEVEN has no other friends.
JODI indicated the pool on STEVEN's property was purchased by STEVEN and her and used by
BARBARA's kids once or twice. She stated BARBARA ultimately bought a pool for her
children and her children made use of the pool BARBARA had purchased. She stated STEVEN
did not want to take the pool down as "he's too lazy" with anything except cars. She stated it
would be STEVEN's habit to leave a glass on the table or a plate on the table when he is done
with it instead of movins it to the sink.
JODI indicates when STEVEN is hnished working, he will normally eat, talk with his mother
and then begin to work on cars. She was asked about the Suzuki that was in STEVEN's garage.
She indicated she does not know where the vehicle was parked but stated it does not run. She
states it was used uo north on the land the AVERYS own.
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JODI was asked about a snowmobile in the garage. She stated the snowmobile she is aware of is
"old" and it is parked against the wall closest to STEVEN's sister, BARBARA's residence. She
stated this snowmobile is covered with things and she does not know if it is operational.
I mentioned there is a newer snowmobile in the area and JODI stated this snowmobile came from
the AVERY property in Marinette County. I asked her why STEVEN would bring it to his
garage and JODI stated, "Probably to get is ready for snowmobiling."
JODI indicated CHARLES and EARL fish but she is unsure where they do their fishing in this
vicinity.
JODI stated CHARLES and EARL used to drink but they do not drink now. She states
BARBARA does not consume intoxicants either nor does STEVEN.
JODI indicated CHARLES has two daughters that live with his ex-wife and also had a son by the
name of CORY (ph) who is deceased as a result of a traffic crash.
JODI indicates that as far as she knows, there are no family problems between STEVEN's
brothers and sister.
JODI went on to indicate if STEVEN was going to do something to someone it would be to her
as "no one would miss me."
JODI went on to indicate she and STEVEN have had arguments and STEVEN had gotten
arrested at one point. She stated the cause of this arrest was him throwing things and she got
scared of his temper. She denies ever having STEVEN being physically abusive towards her.
JODI did indicate that BARBARA JANDA's ex-husband is now married to STEVEN AVERY's
ex-wife. She stated their names are PETER and LORI DASSEY and they live in the Two Rivers
aTea.
JODI was asked if there arc any specific jobs that any of the brothers perform. She stated all the
guys do all the work and there are no assignments necessarily. She stated the crusher is rented
about one time per year and she states she has no idea who this is rented from or when. She
stated the crusher was not there when she reported to jail.
JODI went on to indicate bonfires are enjoyed in Marinette County and it is usually STEVEN,
her and STEVEN's parents. She states EARL, CHARLES and BARBARA mainly come up to
Marinette County during the gun deer hunting season.
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JODI indicated the drive to the Marinette County would take between two and one-half to three
hours. She does indicate that EARL is the only brother who actually owns properly in Marinette
County near his father.
JODI indicates she and STEVEN do not go to the Marinette property during the week.
I asked JODI if CHARLES AVERY is seeing anyone. She stated CHARLES is not dating and
she stated CHARLES tried to date her before she met STEVEN. She then advised me
CHARLES has tried to "make passes" at her. She stated CHARLES has asked to come over to
the mobile home when STEVEN (and on occasion EARL) goes to the auto auction. She states
she has rebuffed CHARLES' advances.
JODI describes STEVEN as an easy going individual "like EARL." She stated CHARLES is a
little different and can be kind of uptight and further can be "a prick" depending on the day. She
stated CHARLES is in his fifties, STEVEN is 43 and she is unsure how old BARBARA is and
EARL is the baby. She then stated she is not exactly sure whether BARBARA is older than
STEVEN or a little younger.
JODI went on to indicate that STEVEN will tell you what is on his mind whether he is angry or
not.
JODI states unless they are only going to a gas station in Mishicot or to the salvage yard,
STEVEN always locks his doors. She stated there is usually someone home next door to watch
the comings and goings at STEVEN's mobile home.
JODI indicated STEVEN's mother and the mobile home owner, ROLLIE (ph) JOHNSON, have
keys to the mobile home and no one else. She stated on occasion, ROLLIE JOHNSON would
come up to the mobile home STEVEN lives in to "get away from his house." She stated on one
occasion, ROLLIE came up and stayed for a couple of hours and actually came into the house to
get an item and then subsequently left.
JODI was asked about any sort of bondage that might go on. She stated she and STEVEN have
experimented with bondage several times. She stated she has tied STEVEN and he has tied her.
She stated usually they only restrain one another by the arms. She stated that in one incident,
STEVEN did actually tie her by the legs but her ankle hurt too much and they stopped. She
states they will always leave the restraints loose enough for them to slip out of. She stated there
have never been any attempts on either one of their parts at asphyxia. She states they will have
sex every day and sometime they will have sex five times per day. She states this consists of
penile vaginal intercourse. She states they have had sex in the house, in the pool and one time on
the deck of the residence. She denies having any sort of fantasy role playing by either her or
STEVEN. JODI indicated she had suggested to STEVEN that STEVEN rip off her clothes but
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he declined to do that. JODI indicates she knows STEVEN has sexually explicit photos of his
ex-wife but indicated these photographs do not bother JODI.
JODI indicated STEVEN has owned lots of cars since she has known him. She states he will
buy a unit for not much money and then sell it for a little more money and this is how he
supplements his income once again.
Investigation continues.
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On Tuesday, 11/08/05, at 1616 hours, I (DEDERING) did place a telephone call to the following
individual regarding this matter:
MARVIN J. MONFILES
DOB 09129130
1945 Mills Street, Apt. 516
Green Bay, WI
Telephone number: 920-465-9096
MONFILES had left a message for our agency indicating that he possibly had information
regarding the incident.
Upon making contacting with MONFILES, he stated he had observed STEVEN AVERY in
CiviIz,WI, on Thursday, lll03l05, at a restaurant. MONFILES indicated that on Thursday,
11/03/05, he had arrived at a restaurant in Crivitz between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 10:00 a.m.
He stated this restaurant is located at the first stoplight in Crivitz next to a gas station.
MONFILES indicated that, "If this wasn't STEVE, it was his twin." MONFILES indicated
there was a female with this individual as well as a 14 to 18 year old male child. MONFILES
indicated the three left prior to him and he was unable to see what the individuals left in.
MONFILES indicated the subject left shortly after MONFILES arrived. He stated he could not
describe the female who was with the two. He stated they were seated near a wall by the buffet
in a no smoking area. He stated they had gone "through the wall" and were looking out some
windows. He stated the boy was not heavy set and had dark hair, which was not real long.
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On Tuesday, l1108/05 at approximately 4:30 p.m., Inv. G. STEIER of the CALUMET CO.
SHERIFF'S DEPT. along with Special Agent STEVEN LEWIS of the STATE OF WISCONSIN
DEPT. OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION (DCI) interviewed EARL K. AVERY, M/W, DOB
06110170, at his residence of 6904 CTH Y, Whitelaw, WI.
Investigators meet with EARL in the driveway of his residence. EARL informs investigators
STEVEN's attomey has informed him not to talk to the police. Inv. STEIER informs EARL that
he (STEIER) will state why the police are wanting to talk to EARL and EARL can decide if he
wants to answer the questions at that time. EARL indicates this is okay and he will speak with
investigators.
EARL sketches a diagram of the AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE yard for investigators, noting
which outbuilding or shed is used for what purpose. EARL states the car crusher is owned by a
different company. EARL informs investigators that STEVEN AVERY has crushed a blue Jeep
Wagoneer in the car crusher and believes this is the last car to be crushed. EARL also indicates
STEVEN AVERY is the only brother to start selling cars on AUTO TRADER. EARL indicates
this is STEVEN's idea and he was the one doins that. EARL believes the cost to be about
$90.00.
While speaking with EARL AVERY, CHUCK (CHARLES) AVERY calls EARL AVERY's
residence and wishes to speak with investigators. Inv. STEIER speaks with CHARLES AVERY
telephonically, who states he is the owner of the salvage yard. CHARLES AVERY indicates the
land is owned by his mother and EARL and CHARLES are partners in the business. CHARLES
indicates his dad does the books and handles the money. CHARLES indicates he wants a
vehicle, a blue Impala, next to the big blue shop, and provides investigators with safe
combinations for investigators to open the safes located at his residence and on the AVERY'S
AUTO SALVAGE yard property. CHARLES AVERY then turns the phone over to
BARBARA, CHARLES' sister, who talks to Inv. STEIER and informs Inv. STEIER of a safe
combination located in her residence located next to STEVEN AVERY's property. BARBARA
indicates she also has keys, which will open two smaller fire safes located at her residence. At
this time the conversations end and investisators leave EARL's residence.
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On Tuesday, 11/08/05, at 1657 hours, I (DEDERING) did make contact with the followine
individual regarding this matter:
FRANCIS L. THIELMAN
DOB 08/12l38
131 Washington Ct.
Elkhart Lake, WI 53020
Telephone number: 920-87 6-277 1
Anonymous information had been developed that the AVERY family has some sort of
underground bunker on their Marinette County property. The information passed along to this
agency indicated the underground bunker resembled alarge tank cut down the middle. The
information that was obtained indicated that this would be a good place to "hide a body" and
further indicated that FRANCIS THIELMAN may have some knowledge about this bunker.
FRANCIS indicated he has hunted with the AVERY family but has no knowledge of any
undergtound storage area or bunker area. He stated he has hunted with both ALLAN AVERY
and ALLAN's brother, GENE (ph). He states he still hunts with GENE AVERY on property
approximately two miles away from the land ALLAN AVERY owns in Marinette. FRANCIS
indicated he has never spoken to anyone about any underground storage area.
FRANCIS indicated he has never really hunted with ALLAN on ALLAN's property, but has
hunted two times with ALLAN "out west."
FRANCIS indicated he has only met STEVEN one time and this was after STEVEN had been
released from prison.
FRANCIS did recall one time that the family was discussing building a "perch tank" in a big
metal building. The purpose of this tank was to have the AVERYS possibly begin commercially
raising fish.
FRANCIS indicated there is a second metal garage that has machinery in it and a third garage for
vehicles. FRANCIS indicated he is unsure of how big the property is but did indicate "it's pretty
big."
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Investigation continues.
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'1 Property Tag #8419 - Winchester low brass shotgun shell, red in color, at N44
degrees 15.204 and W87 degrees 41.369, collected at 0843 hours
'i' Property Tag #8420 - Federal, red, shotgun shell at N44 degrees 15.204 and W87
degrees 41.369, collected at 0845 hours
* Property Tag#8421- Brown shotgun shell at N44 degrees 15.205 and W87 degrees
41.369, collected at 0846 hours
* Properly Tag #8301 - Red Federal shotgun shell at N44 degrees 15.204 and W87
degrees 4I.369, collected at 0849 hours
t' Property Tag#8422 - Red Federal shotgun shell at N44 degrees 15.204 and W87
degrees 47.369, collected at 0857 hours
* Property Tag#8423 - Red shotgun shell at N44 degrees i4.868 an W87 degrees
41.187 , collected at 0903 hours
* Property Tag#8429 - Map page with MapQuest on it of the immediate area at N44
degrees 15.020 and W87 degrees 47.215, collected at 0913 hours
* Property Tag#8425 - Red shotgun shell at N14 degrees 14.498 and W87 degrees
41.631, collected at 1000 hours
t Property Tag#8426 - Arrow with an expandable tip broad head at N44 degrees
15.218 and W87 degrees 47.476, collected at 1006 hours
t Property Tag#8427 - Four green shotgun shells, spent, at N44 degrees 15.955 and
W87 degrees 41.875, collected aI l0l2 hours
l. Property Tag#8428 - Spent rifle shell, brass, at N44 degrees 14.810 and W87 degrees
41.868, collected at 1018 hours
.i. Property Tag#8429 - Spent rifle shells at N44 degrees 14.814 and W87 degrees
41.879, collected at 1021hours
* Property Tag#8302 - Three red shotgun shell at N44 degrees 14.829 and W08
degrees 4I.916, collected at 1024 hours
* Property Tag #8303 - Two red shotgun shells at N44 degrees 14.854 and W87
degrees 41.943, collected at 1036 hours
'i' Property Tag #8304 - Shotgun shells at N44 degrees 14.842 and W87 degrees 41.951,
collected at 1038 hours
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* Property Tag #8306 -Two yellow .20 gauge shotgun shells at N44 degrees 14.805 and
W87 degrees41.902, collected at1045 hours
t Property Tag#8307 - Background for an aquarium at N44 degrees 15.312 and W87
degrees 4l .48, collected at 1256 hours
.i. Property Tag #8308 - Two shotgun shells, two of those spent, one live, at N44
degrees 15.27 5 and W87 degrees 41.832, collected at 1345 hours
* Properly Tag #8309 - White thread at N44 degrees 15.283 and W87 degrees 41.581,
collected at 1450 hours
* Property Tag #83 10 - Paper towel with blood on it at N44 degrees 15.254 and W87
degrees 41.494, collected at 1525 hours
t Property Tag #8311 - Pair of blue jeans with a hair fiber at N44 degrees 15.244 and
W87 degrees 41.606, collected at 1620 hours
* Properly Tag #83 72 - One pair of black pants with hair fiber at N44 degrees 15.244
and W87 degrees 4I.606, collected at 1605 hours
At approximately 1630 hours, Sgt. BILL TYSON, Deputy NICHOLAS J. SABLICH and I
recovered two burn barrels from the AVERY property. One of those was marked bum barrel #4.
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On 11/08/05, I (Deputy RICK RIEMER, Unit #832, of the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT) was required to collect evidence from the WI STATE CRIME LAB. I was
also required to collect property from the WI STATE CRIME LAB personnel.
AI1714 hours, I did collect from the WI STATE CRIME LAB, who had brought the items up to
the CALUMET COUNTY COMMAND POST, Property Tag #8314, which was the contents of
banel#2.
N 1716 hours, I collected Property Tag #8313, which was a RAV4 license plate with a 06
sticker.
At 1726 hours, I collected the contents of the cell phone barrel, Property Tag #83 I 6.
AI 1732 hours, I collected Property Tag #8318, the contents sifted from burn pit near STEVEN's
residence and garage.
At 1734 hours, I collected Property Tag #8319, the contents of barrel #4.
At 1735 hours, I collected Property Tag#8320, a stained rock from the gravel mound.
At 1745 hours, I collected Property Tag#8323, a Mountain Dew pop can on other side of fence
adjacent to Mercury license plate car.
At 1747 hours, I collected Property Tag#8324, a front driver's seat cover bronze Honda Civic.
At 1749 hours, I collected Property Tag#8325, panties, purple thong, from the white trailer near
license plate car.
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At 1154 hours, I collected Properly Tag#8326, a white blanket and coffee can from the middle
seat of a silver Ranult.
At 1758 hours, I collected Property Tag#8328, cuttings from a carpet on middle passenger seat
under blanket from silver Ranult.
All items listed were transporled to the CALUMET COLTNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
where they were tumed over to the evidence locker.
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DOCUMENTSGENERATED: Evidence/PropertycustodyDocument
On Tuesday, 11/08/05, at approximately 2119 hours, I (DEDERING) did receive fabric samples
collected from couch cushions from both the STEVEN AVERY and CHARLES AVERY
residences.
The WI STATE CRIME LAB had conducted a luminol examination of both residences and in
addition to probable blood evidence, which had already been gathered, did locate possible blood
areas on the couches.
At 2130 hours, I left the AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE yard area and at 2223 hours, I arrived at
the sheriff s department with the evidence. The evidence was secured in the evidence room.
Investigation continues.
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I (Lt. SIPPEL) returned to the AVERY property on Wednesday, 11109105, at approximately 7:00
a.m. Once at the command post, we were informed that a tip had been received that there was an
old cabin off of Jambo Creek Rd. and Twin Bridge Rd. Deputy SCHULTZ and Deputy
WENDLING were dispatched to check out that location. It should be noted that upon their
return, they indicated they did not observe or locate anything unusual or out of the ordinary.
At approximately 1055 hours on the moming of Wednesday, 17109105, a locksmith had arrived
at the command post to assist in opening a safe within one of the office areas. The evidence
team that was working the AVERY house responded with the locksmith to the office area where
he assisted in opening the safe. The locksmith had left the crime scene at approximately 1108
hours on 1 1/09/05.
At approximately 1324 hours on 1 1/09/05, I (Lt. SIPPEL) received the dental records of
TERESA HALBACH from the KAUKAUNA POLICE DEPT. I received the dental records
from a Lt. JOHN VANDRUNEN. At approximately 1325 hours, I (Lt. SIPPEL) tumed over the
dental records to DCI Agent JIM HOLMES.
Around 1440 hours on 11/09/05, I (Lt. SIPPEL) had been advised by Manitowoc County that
there were two individuals walking southbound from STH 147 along a fence line approaching
the north perimeter. Lt. HERMANN of the MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. along with
another deputy pursued the individuals who then turned and went back out towards STH 147 and
Avery Rd. Lt. HERMANN was able to make contact with both subjects and brought them back
to my location. The first subject was identified as JAMES L. GUEX, DOB 09108156, of 3818
STH 147, Two Rivers,WI 54241. The second subject was JOHN FINNEL, DOB 08/07169,
3419 STH l47,Two Rivers, WI54241. GUEX is an uncle of FINNEL. Both subjects informed
me they were walking in the fence line south of STH 147 in an attempt to assist us in locating
TERESA HALBACH. I informed both subjects that area had already been searched by our
search parties and it would be in their best interest that they do not attempt to breach the property
again or they would be arrested. Both subjects were taken back out to the highway by Lt.
HERMANN and released.
Onlll09l05, I (Lt. SIPPEL) along with Deputy KEN MATUSZAK of the CALUMET CO.
SHERIFF'S DEPT. entered the ALLAN AVERY residence with a KARLA, who would be the
granddaughter of ALLAN AVERY. We entered the residence in an attempt to remove some
insulin medication and equipment that was needed by KARLA's grandmother, ALLAN
AVERY's wife. Upon entering the residence from the rear, we entered a living room area where
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we located three boxes related to insulin medication and one small cylinder canister with insulin.
We entered the residence at 1858 hours and were out of the residence at 1902 hours.
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On Wednesday, 11109105, at 0851 hours, I (DEDERING) did receive a CD that Det. JACOBS of
the MANITOWOC SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT had made. He stated the information on the
CD consisted of telephone calls placed from MANITOWOC COUNTY JAIL where JODI
STACHOWSKI is being housed to the cellular phone of STEVEN AVERY. He stated these
were calls that took place on 11/08/05.
Investigation continues.
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At approximately ll:57 p.m., I (Deputy HAWKINS) continued to log items into evidence that
were located at the AVERY property. At2'24 a.m., I stopped logging items taken from the
AVERY property. All items were secured in short-term secure storage while I was not logging
the items into the computer systems. At 4:31 a.m., on 1 1/10/05, I retumed to logging in items
into evidence from the AVERY property. All property was placed into long-tefin secure storage
after the items were logged in.
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On Wednesday, 11109105,I (Deputy CRAIG WENDLING) was asked to collect evidence from
STEVEN AVERY's residence at 12932 Avery Rd., Two Rivers, to check safes located at
12930A Avery Rd., Two Rivers, and also a safe a 12390 Avery Rd. (an office building). Items
we were to search for were a garage door remote and a pair of woman's gloves that would be in
STEVEN AVERY's home. We were supposed to check STEVEN AVERY's garage for an
emergency kit that may contain or have other parts to a special tool located inside the victim's
vehicle. We were also to check the safes in STEVEN's sister, BARBARA's, residence at
12930A Avery Rd. and to check the safes located inside the main office shop of the blue building
located directly behind 12390 Avery Rd.
With Sgt. ANDY COLBORN and Lt. JIM LENK of the MANITOWOC COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT, we did enter into the office of AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE located at 12390
Avery Rd., Two Rivers. At 1004 hours, we did make entry into the office building, which is a
blue and white shed. The office is located on the north end of that building. Our goal was to
open a very large safe located in STEVEN's father, ALLAN AVERY's, office. At 1007 hours,
we tried to gain entry into the safe using the combination provided by family. After several
attempts, we were not able to open the safe so at 1010 hours, we did exit the building. We were
informed by the family that if we could not gain entry to the safe, we should recheck the
combination, which would have been located in CHARLES AVERY's house, directly to the
south of the building. We were informed by the family the safe combination would be located
inside of a phonebook on the counter in the kitchen.
At1 0 I 2 hours, we did enter CHARLES's residence and found the phonebook and did verify the
At l0l4 hours, ANDY COLBORN, Lt. JIM LENK and I again gained entry into the main
Sgt.
office of AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE with the combination. We again tried several times to
gain entry into the safe and at 1025 hours, we did exit the shop and asked for our command post
to contact a locksmith to assist us in opening the safe.
At 1026 hours, we did take a walk through the shop area, which is attached to the office, and
looked for a kit that would possibly contain other parts of the special tool we were looking for.
At 1034 hours, we were unable to locate any tool or remaining portion of a kit and exited the
shop.
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Because we were still waiting for the locksmith to return to open the safe, we decided to go over
to STEVEN AVERY's residence at 12932 Avery Rd. in attempts to locate a garage door opener
and apair of woman's gloves. At 1039 hours, we did enter into STEVEN AVERY's residence
and began our search in the very south of the trailer, which is STEVEN AVERY's bedroom.
Sgt. COLBORN, Lt. LENK and I searched the bedroom looking for the garuge door opener and
a pair of woman's gloves. We did locate apair of woman's gloves underneath the desk in the
southeast comer of the bedroom inside of a paper bag. The paper bag would have been located
underneath the desk where the chair would go. I did collect the pair of black woman's gloves as
evidence and tagged them with Tag No. 8437. Those were collected at 1040 hours.
While looking for the pair of woman's gloves and the garage door opener, I located inside of the
desk in the top drawer some miscellaneous bullets. Those bullets were collected by me and
placed into a bag and tagged with Tag No. 8436. Also placed inside that bag were two knives
that were found inside of the left drawer of the desk and also one knife that was located on the
nightstand or table next to the desk. Those items would have been collected at 1041 hours.
After collecting those items, we were unable to locate the garage door opener so we continued
onto the next room north of STEVEN AVERY's bedroom, which would have been the
bathroom/laundry room area. Inside the bathroom/laundry room area, in the second drawer from
the bottom left of the sink, two sexual devices were located. One would have been a dildo and
one being a vibrator. Those items were collected as evidence and marked with Tag No. 8438
and collected at 1055 hours.
All items that were collected were first photographed by Sgt. COLBORN.
After collecting those two items, we continued to search the bathroom and did not locate the
garuge door opener.
At 1059 hours, we decided to leave STEVEN AVERY's residence because our locksmith had
retumed and we were going to finish checking the safe in ALLAN AVERY's office in the main
office of the shop.
At 1102 hours, we did enter the main office in the blue building located directly behind ALLAN
AVERY's residence. We did enter into ALLAN AVERY's office where alarge Liberty safe
was located in the northwest corner of that office. A worker from WALLY'S LOCKSMITH was
with me as well as Lt. LENK and Sgt. COLBORN. The worker from WALLY'S LOCKSMITH
was SCOTT J. MUELLER (ph), DOB 08/11/54. SCOTT was given the combination and he was
able to open the safe for us. SCOTT was then excused from the building and I did watch him
exit the office where he was turned over to another officer. The other officer would have been
Lt. BRETT BOWE.
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Once the safe door was open, we did locate two Sentry small fire safes and one metal change box
and miscellaneous papers. Also lying across a shelf was a side-by-side double barrel 72 gauge
with no serial numbers, Stevens Model 31 1A. That side-by-side double barrel had been sawed
off and the stock was also shortened. That item was collected by me and photographed by Sgt.
COLBORN at 1114 hours. The double barrel 12 gauge was tagged with Tag No. 8439.
I then continued to search ALLAN AVERY's ofhce and did locate some miscellaneous rounds,
some .22 rounds, a .32 round and a12 gauge shell on the left side of ALLAN's desk, which
would be south of the office. Most of the rounds were located in the top shelf of that section of
desk, with the 12 gauge round being located on an open shelf on that same section of desk. Also
on that open shelf was a folding knife with a broken tip, which was opened. Those items were
collected by me and tagged with 8440.
At 1122 hours, we had SCOTT MUELLER come back into the office and he was escorted in and
brought back to the large safe to open the two Sentry fireboxes that we could not locate keys for.
He did open the fireboxes and they were looked in and placed back into the large Liberty safe.
We did at that time exit ALLAN's office and the Liberty safe was secured.
Inside the common office area on the south end of the counter was a desk area. We did locate a
roll of black duct tape, which was collected by myself and given Tag No. 8441. That item would
have been collected at ll29 hours.
At 1130 hours, we did exit the office and went back to STEVEN AVERY's residence.
At 1140 hours, we did re-enter STEVEN AVERY's residence at 12932 Avery Rd. We
continued to search the middle bedroom and then the living room and kitchen area for the garage
door opener but were unable to locate it. We did exit the residence at 1150 hours with no further
evidence at this time.
It should be noted all evidence collected at this point was secured in my squad car which was
parked right outside of each residence I was in.
At 1151 hours, Sg1. COLBORN, Lt. LENK and i went into STEVEN AVERY's garage to
continue to look for the garuge door opener and any possible kits or tools that would match up
with the tool they had found in earlier searches. On the hood of a gray Suzuki Samurai JX
parked inside the garage, a gtay nylon bag containing a roadside emergency kit was located.
That kit was clean in appearance and may have been where the tool was removed. The kit was
collected as evidence at 1154 hours and given Tag No. 8442.
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Also located on the hood of the Suzuki ' was a roll of gray duct tape, which was collected at
1 156 hours and given Tag No. 8443. These items were all collected and tagged by me
(WENDLING).
Also located on the hood of the gray Suzuki Samurai was a roll of electrical tape and that was
collected at 1201hours and given Tag No. 8444.
While continuing to look through the garage, I did find two yellow electrical cords tied around
the rafters. There were two cords hanging down approximately two feet or slightly less apart,
which could have been used to hang something. Those items were collected at 1207 hours. That
item was given Tag No. 8445.
It should be noted we did get information off the garage door. It is a Liftmaster 3'd horsepower,
the Professional Line. It was made by CHAMBERLAIN COMPANY, pafi no. 41A4252-7C,
manufactured on 06195.
We exited the garage at 1210 hours and went to check STEVEN AVERY's black Ford F350
Super Duty Super Cab truck, bearing WI License Plate No. AG5467. This vehicle would have
been parked in front of STEVEN AVERY's garage at 12932 Avery Rd., Two Rivers.
At I2l I hours, we didenter into that vehicle and while walking around back, a wadded up piece
of duct tape approximately two feet behind the rear passenger of the truck was located on the
ground. That item was collected at 1213 hours and given Tag No. 8446.
The search of the Ford F350 did not produce any garage door opener. We did leave the truck at
1217 hours.
We had been instructed by investigators to collect two hammers, which were located by the burn
pit behind STEVEN AVERY's garuge. We did go back at 1220 hours by the burn pit and
located and observed a rubber mallet with a wood handle and claw hammer with a yellow handle
appearing to be fiberglass. The claw hammer was located on top of the dirt pile approximately
two feet just north of the burn pit. That item was collected and placed into a bag and sealed at
1221 hours by me and given Tag No. 8447. The items were photographed by Sgt. COLBORN.
The rubber mallet was located on the grass approximately one to two feet from the actual burn
pit to the south. The rubber mallet would have been a large, black rubber mallet with a wooden
handle. That item was collected and placed into a bag and secured by me at 1222 hours and
given Tag No. 8448.
At 1224 hours, we did complete collecting those items and all items were secured in my squad.
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Our next assignment was to go to BARBARA's residence at l2930|Avery Rd., Two Rivers, to
check the Sentry safes located inside. Sgt. COLBORN did have the keys for those safes and we
were asked to check them for any possible evidence. At 1225 hours, we did enter into that
residence and at 1237 hours, we were in BARBARA's bedroom and did locate two Sentry safes.
The first safe we checked was located on the left side of the bed while standing at the foot of the
bed and did not have any items of evidentiary value at this time.
The second safe was located to the right of the bed, while standing at the foot of the bed, and was
alarger, taller Sentry firebox safe. Inside we did find two .22 rounds lying on the bottom, which
were collected by me at 1237 hours. Those items were tagged with Tag No. 8449. The Sentry
safes were placed back in their original location.
We went to BOBBY DASSEY's room to check the Sentry safe, which was located in there.
Once we opened that safe in that middle bedroom, which is BOBBY DASSEY's room, we did
locate several .22 callber rounds and those items were taken as evidence and secured at l}4l
hours by me. I tagged those items with Tag No. 8450.
After that was completed, we did exit that residence at 1246 hours.
At that time, we did go back to the command post and I did have my squad with me containing
all the evidence that was collected. While waiting for our next assignment, we were told there
was a cell phone found on the side of the road of STH 147 and we should so collect that as
evidence.
At 1450 hours, we arrived on scene just east of Ridge Rd. on STH 147. In the north ditch right
along the gravel line was an Audiovox phone, silver in color, Model CDM8815UT STAR CAM.
That item was found by a person searching, his name being JOHN J. CAMPION, DOB 07124156,
of 1631 Holly Drive, Manitowoc,WI54220, home phone number 682-7655. That item would
have been collected by me at 1452 hours and given Tag No. 8451.
After collecting the phone, we did return to the command post and all evidence was kept in my
exclusive possession in my squad. I then transported all the evidence to the CALUMET
COTINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT where it was placed into the evidence room locker
number 8 by me.
It should be noted Sgt. COLBORN did do all the photography for me and I did collect all
evidence and kept it in my possession.
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It should also be noted that while searching, we all were in the same room and they were all
under my supervision while conducting the searches.
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CITIZEN
CONTACT: Fay L. Fritsch
DOB 10t05t70
6138 Arabian Way
Two Rivers, WI 54241
Telephone number: 684-1416
Laura L. Vogel-Schwartz
DOB 07/03/65
1850 Cottonwood Court
De Pere, WI 54115
Telephone number: 983-1838
During the meeting, it was determined that STEVEN AVERY, DOLORES AVERY,
BARBARA JANDA, CHARLES AVERY, EARL AVERY and BOBBY DASSEY would be
taken into custody on a Search Warrant and transported to the AURORA MEDICAL CENTER
in Two Rivers for a physical examination as well as the retrieval of Buccal swabs and all persons
would be requested to submit their palm prints and fingerprints. SHERIFF JERRY PAGEL did
call the CALUMET COLTNTY JAIL and did request correctional officers to respond to the
command post to meet with me to discuss this procedure and then set up the appropriate
fingerprint equipment at AURORA MEDICAL CENTER.
Correctional Officers LARRY SCHROEDER and LORI FLEMING did meet with me at the
command center and I did brief them as far as what would be required from them.
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FAY then took me to the ambulance sally port area and informed me the officers could pull
directly up to the sally port. That information was relayed to the lead Inv. MARK WIEGERT.
While checking the status on Correctional Officers SCHROEDER and FLEMING. I was notified
by FAY FRITSCH that STEVEN AVERY had arrived at their facility and he was in a separate
examination room with investigators awaiting the physical examination. FAY FRITSCH
informed me she would be conducting the physical examination in the presence of Dr. LAURA
VOGEL-SCHWARTZ and a full medical report would be completed on each of the individuals
that had the physical examination.
Upon entering the examination room, I did make contact with the investigators and noticed that
STEVEN AVERY was also in the room and he was dressed in a hospital gown. At 1325 hours,
FAY FRITSCH began her physical examination and Dr. LAURA VOGEL-SCHWARTZ was
taking notes as far as any cuts, scratches or bruises that were located. STEVEN AVERY did
have numerous cuts and scratches on his body, which were photographed.
After the physical examination, FAY FRITSCH did the Buccal swabs on STEVEN AVERY.
The Buccal swabs were taken from STEVEN AVERY's mouth at 1351 hours and I saw FAY
FRITSCH place the swabs into an envelope and seal the envelope. The envelope containing the
Buccal swabs was turned over to me by FAY FRITSCH at 1353 hours.
STEVEN AVERY was then taken from that examination room and walked down a short hallway
to a different examination room where Correctional Officers SCHROEDER and FLEMING were
awaiting his arrival to obtain the palm prints and fingerprints.
After the palm prints and fingerprints were obtained, Correctional Officer SCHROEDER did
tum over those prints to me at 1410 hours.
I was informed that DOLORES AVERY was in a separate examination room and they were
ready to obtain the Buccal swabs from DOLORES AVERY. Upon entering that examination
room, I did make contact with FAY FRITSCH and two investigators with DOLORES AVERY.
FAY FRITSCH conducted the first Buccal swab at 1416 hours and the second Buccal swab at
1417 hours. FAY FRITSCH placed those swabs in a paper envelope and sealed the envelope
and turned that envelope over to me at l4l8 hours.
DOLORES AVERY was then taken from that examination room to the examination room where
Correctional Officers SCHROEDER and FLEMING were for the recovery of her palm prints
and fingerprints. After the completion of the palm prints and fingerprints, Correctional Officer
SCHROEDER turned those prints over to me at 1432 hours.
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I was informed that BARBARA JANDA was in an examination room awaiting the Buccal swab
testing. Upon entering that room, I did make contact with Inv. WENDY BALDWIN and
BARBARA JANDA. FAY FRITSCH entered the room shortly thereafter and stated there was a
problem with the hospital records showing they did not have any record for BARBARA
AVERY. Upon looking at the Search Warrant, it appeared as if a mistake was made on the
Warrant naming BARBARA JANDA as BARBARA AVERY. I asked BARBARA JANDA if
she would be willing to give consent to have the Buccal swabs done and her fingerprints.
BARBARA informed me she was more than willing to do that because she wanted this thing to
be over once and for all and not to be considered a suspect. I did retrieve a Permission to Search
form and did fill out the form. BARBARA signed the form stating she would give consent for
the Buccal swab testing as well as the retrieval of her fingerprints and palm prints. A copy of
that form was made for the hospital and BARBARA JANDA. The Buccal swabs were
conducted by FAY FRITSCH and they were taken at 1446 hours. FAY FRITSCH placed those
Buccal swabs in an envelope and sealed the envelope. That envelope was turned over to me by
FAY FRITSCH at 1447 hours.
BARBARA JANDA was then taken to the examination room for her fingerprints. After
completing the procedure, Correctional Officer SCHROEDER did turn over BARBARA's palm
prints and fingerprints to me at 1502 hours.
I was then informed CHARLES AVERY was in an examination room awaiting his physical
examination. Upon entering that room, I did make contact with two investigators and they
introduced me to CHARLES AVERY. Dr. VOGEL-SCHWARTZ and FAY FRITSCH entered
the room and began the physical examination of CHARLES AVERY at 1510 hours. CHARLES
AVERY did have scratches and cuts on his body and those scratches and cuts were documented
by Dr. VOGEL-SCHWARTZ. I did take photographs of the cuts and scratches on CHARLES
AVERY's body. The physical examination ended a|1522 hours. FAY conducted the Buccal
swabs on CHARLES AVERY at 1522 hours. The Buccal swabs were placed in an envelope and
sealed and that envelope was tumed over to me by FAY at 1524 hours.
CHARLES AVERY was then taken to the examination room for his palm prints and fingerprints.
After Correctional Officer SCHROEDER received those prints, he turned over CHARLES
AVERY's palm prints and fingerprints to me at 1546 hours.
I was informed that EARL AVERY was in an examination room awaiting his physical
examination. Upon entering that room, I did make contact with two investigators and was
iNtrOdUCCd tO EARL AVERY. FAY FRITSCH ANd Dr. VOGEL-SCHWARTZ WCrC AISO iN thc
room and they began the physical examination of EARL AVERY at 1553 hours. The physical
examination of EARL AVERY ended at 1559 hours. The Buccal swabs were done by FAY
FRITSCH and they were collected from EARL at 1600 hours. FAY FRITSCH placed those
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Buccal swabs in an envelope, did seal the envelope and tumed that envelope over to me at 1601
hours.
EARL AVERY was then taken to the examination room for the retrieval of his palm prints and
fingerprints. After that process was completed, Correctional Officer SCHROEDER did turn
those prints over to me at 1613 hours.
I was informed that BOBBY DASSEY was in an examination room awaiting his physical
examination. Upon entering into that room, I did make contact with the two investigators and
WAS iNtTOdUCCd tO BOBBY DASSEY. FAY FRITSCH ANd Dr. VOGEL-SCHWARTZ CAME iNtO
the room and did begin the physical examination at 1628 hours. The physical examination ended
at 1638 hours. All markings on BOBBY DASSEY were photographed. FAY FRITSCH did the
Buccal swabs on BOBBY DASSEY at 1639 hours. The Buccal swabs were placed in an
envelope and sealed and that envelope was turned over to me by FAY FRITSCH at 1640 hours.
At approximately 1540 hours, I was notified by Special Agent JOSEPH KAPITANY the WI
STATE CRIME LAB wanted the palm prints and fingerprints of STEVEN AVERY as soon as
possible. I did turn over the FBI fingerprint card containing STEVEN AVERY's fingerprints as
well as the left and right palm prints to JOSEPH KAPITANY. JOSEPH KAPITANY did sign
the evidence document stating he did receive those items for transport to the WI STATE CRIME
LAB.
All other items were transported to the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT and
secured in the evidence room. All photographs taken were taken from the Calumet County
investigators' digital camera. That camera was turned over to Inv. JOHN DEDERING.
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Search Warrant:
Barbara E. Janda
DOB rlt07t64
129304 Avery Rd.
Two Rivers, WI 54241
Phone: 973-1740
On 11/09/05, I (Inv. WENDY BALDWIN) along with several agents from the STATE OF
WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION (DCD met and decided
which individuals would execute the Search Warrants. Special Agent JOE KAPITANY of DCI
and I were going to execute the Search Warrant for BARBARA E. JANDA.
At approximately 1330 hours, Spec,ial Agent KAPITANY received a call from one of his agents
at the EARL AVERY residence inclicating that BARBARA was there and they could not find
EARL. We made contact at EARL's residence and Special Agent DEB STRAUSS of DCI
indicated she had already read BARBARA JANDA the Miranda Warning. BARBARA said she
was willing to answer questions. A protective sweep was done at the residence due to EARL
possibly being hidden inside the residence somewhere. A search of the house was done,
howevet, EARL was not found. There was a firearm that was located under one of EARL's
daughter's bed. That weapon was secured for safety reasons however, will be retumed at a later
time.
BARBARA was escorted to my squad car where she sat in the front passenger's seat. While on
the way to AURORA MEDICAL CENTER, Special Agent KAPITANY did speak with
BARBARA. See his report for details on her interview.
After reading the Search Warrant to obtain DNA samples, fingerprint and palm prints, it was
found it was not valid due to BARIIARA's last name being AVERY on the Search Warrant
instead of JANDA. BARBARA, however, did sign a Permission to Search form.
At approximately 1429 hours, I did enter the exam room with BARBARA. At approximately
1437 hours, BARBARA did sign the hospital's consent to take the samples. At approximately
1444 hours, BARBARA signed the consent form to search from our department. The samples
and prints were taken from BARBARA and later tumed over to the evidence technician.
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REPORTING
OFFICER: Inv. Gary Steier
SYNOPSIS
NARRATIVE
Upon our arrival, Agents DEB STRAUSS, LUIS OJEDA, and JOE KAPITANY of the STATE
OF WI DCI along with Inv. WENDY BALDWIN (investigator with the CALUMET COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT) were at the residence speaking with CANDY AVERY and
DOLORES AVERY. Investigator GARY STEIER approached the door of the residence and
spoke with CANDY AVERY informing her the Search Warrant was for the person of EARL
AVERY. CANDY AVERY informed Inv. STEIER that EARL AVERY was not at the
residence. She stated she did not know where EARL was at this time. Special Agent LUIS
OJEDA informed Inv. STEIER that CANDY and DOLORES had spoken with EARL inside the
residence. Inv. STEIER asked for consent to enter the residence and was granted permission by
DOLORES AVERY and CANDY's daughter, MARIE AVERY, who resides at the residence.
CANDY AVERY had left the door and had entered into the residence out of view from Inv.
STEIER. The agents entered the residence while Inv. STEIER spoke with DOLORES AVERY
in the kitchen of the residence. Inv. STEIER informed DOLORES AVERY and CANDY
AVERY that investigators were looking for EARL for a Search Warrant of his person and not to
arrest him. Inv. STEIER informed the AVERYS that EARL would return home after being
taken to the hospital to collect physical evidence named on the Search Warrant. Investigators
conducted a protective sweep of the residence and did not locate EARL AVERY but did provide
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Inv. STEIER with a black cased 12 ga. shotgun with barrel. Inv. STEIER did secure the weapon
inside his vehicle. Inv. STEIER then spoke with CANDY AVERY outside the residence as
investigators removed the individuals they had been assigned to, to execute the Search Warrant
of persons. CANDY AVERY contacted EARL's cell phone and provided Inv. STEIER with
EARL's cell phone number. CANDY AVERY then called EARL's cell phone number and left a
message indicating he should call her back.
Inv. STEIER also called the cell phone number of 920-793-0330 and left a message for EARL to
contact Inv. STEIER. Inv. STEIER provided his cellular phone number on the voice message.
CANDY AVERY asked Inv. STEIER what Inv. STEIER and Special Agent SIELEHR, who
remained on scene, were going to do now. Inv. STEIER told CANDY AVERY he was not sure
and Special Agent SIELEHR and STEIER proceeded back into Inv. STEIER's vehicle, which
remained in the driveway. While Inv. STEIER and Special Agent SIELEHR were inside Inv.
STEIER's vehicle, EARL AVERY walked out of the residence with CANDY AVERY.
Special Agent SIELEHR asked EARL where he was in the residence and EARL informed
investigators he was in the upstairs bedroom hiding under some clothes. EARL AVERY
informed investigators he was scared and that is why he hid from investigators. Inv. STEIER
then read verbatim the copy of the Search Warrant to EARL K. AVERY, DOB 06110170. EARL
was provided a copy at this time. Special Agent SIELEHR informed EARL AVERY he would
be in custody but would not be under arrest at the present time. EARL was searched by Special
Agent SIELEHR. EARL then entered Inv. STEIER's vehicle. EARL sat in the passenger front.
Inside the vehicle, Inv. STEIER started an audiotape and read a Miranda Waming to EARL
AVERY. EARL also read along the Miranda Warning form. EARL indicated he was waiving
his Miranda Warning and signed a Miranda Warning form. (See exhibit section).
EARL was transported by Inv. STEIER and Special Agent SIELEHR to AURORA MEDICAL
CENTER located at 5000 Memorial Drive, Two Rivers,Wl54241. At the health care facility,
Inv. STEIER noted times of physical exam, Buccal swab, finger and palm prints on the back of
the Search Warrant return. Evidence Custodian Sg1. BILL TYSON of the CALUMET
COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT collected evidence and documented time of collection.
SANE Registered Nurse, FAY L. FRITSCH, DOB 10/05170, alongwith Dr. VOGEL-
SCHWARTZ,MD, conducted the physical examination. Fingerprints and palm prints were
taken by Correctional Officer LARRY SCHROEDER of the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT.
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On Wednesday, 11109105, DCI Special Agent KEVIN HEIMERL and I (DEDERING) were
given the assignment of serving a Warrant on BOBBY J. DASSEY for his finger and palm prints
and a DNA swab. We received the assignment in the morning and spent the majority of the
moming and a good part of the afternoon attempting to contact Mr. DASSEy.
We ultimately made contact with BOBBY DASSEY and he agreed to meet us at AURORA
MEDICAL CENTER located between Manitowoc and Two Rivers on srH 42.
At 1444 hours on lll09l05, I (DEDERING) did serve the Warrant on BOBBY DASSEy. At
this point, I explained to him that he was not in custody, but was not technically free to leave
either until we had executed the Warant.
At 1447 hours, I (DEDERING) did review BOBBY DASSEY's Miranda Warning from a form.
The form was initialed in the proper areas by DASSEY, was signed by BOBBy DASSEy and
witnessed by Special Agent HEIMERL and me.
We advised BOBBY DASSEY we were going to be recording the interview and he indicated he
had no problem with this. A synopsis of the taped interview is that once again DASSEy stated
he left home at approximately i 500 hours on 10/3 I /05 and he had observed a teal SUV, that he
had never touched or gotten close to. He stated when he left the property there was no one in his
immediate sight. He stated he did not talk with STEVEN AVERY between 1 1:00 a.m. and noon
on 10/3 1/05 indicating he was asleep and is a very sound sleeper. He stated he does not even
hear the telephone when it rings. DASSEY indicated he stayed home until 2330 hours on
10131105 and then left for work at HAMILTON MANUFACTURING.
DASSEY states he knew nothing about a family dinner at Grandma AVERY's on 10/31/05.
DASSEY indicated he has seen the Suzuki that we discussed with him parked at STEVEN's
garage for about two weeks. He indicates the clutch is out and you have to push it to move it.
He stated the Suzuki was parked in the garage the week before the girl went missing.
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DASSEY indicated that sometimes family members will burn the heads of deer but this is
usually in the burn barrel.
DASSEY stated the only deer at the residence was the deer that is hanging in the garage
currently.
BOBBY DASSEY states this is his first year bow hunting and he hunts approximately two and
one-half miles away from his house.
DASSEY stated STEVEN was mad at BARBARA about somethins and he was not sure what
but they patched it up last Wednesday.
DASSEY indicated he does not talk to CHARLES or EARL and has not spoken with CHRIS
(ph) AVERY in the past nine months.
DASSEY indicated that on Tuesday or Wednesday, he observed a burning in the area in a pit
behind STEVEN's garage. He believed there was brush burning. DASSEY stated he was home
that night.
BOBBY DASSEY states STEVEN sometimes burns tires in the pit and STEVEN usually bums
tires at night so you cannot see the smoke.
DASSEY indicated STEVEN does not burn his tires anlwhere else and he indicated he believed
STEVEN was burning with DASSEY's little brother, BRENDAN.
At1618 hours, (by my watch) BOBBY DASSEY's palm prints and fingerprints were taken by
Correctional Officers SCHROEDER and FLEMING.
At 1631 hours, (by my watch) there was a physical examination of BOBBY DASSEY by FAY
L. FRITSCH an exam nurse at AURORA MEDICAL CENTER.
At 1636 hours, I did question BOBBY DASSEY regarding scratches on his back. He stated
these were due to his week old Labrador puppy jumping on his back. He stated he was bent
down to put on his shoes when the dog jumped up and scratched him. I did examine DASSEY's
shirt and could find no obvious holes or tears. The exam ended at 1643 hours (by *y watch).
I did speak with Dr. VOGEL-SCHWARTZ who indicates the scratches appear to be fairly recent
but possibly could be a little older. She stated it was not likely they were over a week old. She
stated it is her opinion that the scratches were fairly recent.
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At 1648 hours, we did escort DASSEY from the hospital, he was released and I observed him
speaking with his mother in the parking lot.
Investigation continues.
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I started to drive towards Manitowoc. At 1630 hours, dispatch created a screen for me and gave
it LCA051109009370 listing it as a violation of court order for STEVEN A. AVERY, DOB
07109162. It also stated that AVERY was in possession of firearms, which he is not allowed to
have due to the fact he is a felon.
At 1624 hours, I arrived at theHOLIDAY INN parking lot and AVERY was unloaded from a
black Impala, in which Inv. WIEGERT and AVERY were in the backseat of, being driven by a
MAN I KNow as TOM fTom the DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. AVERY
was put in a transport belt and cuffed in front. Inv. WIEGERT then placed him in the back
passenger side of my vehicle. I was informed AVERY had been read his rights and was not
going to speak to anybody. I was told by Inv. WIEGERT not to question AVERY and if he said
anS,thing on the ride over, to note it and put it in a report. I told Inv. WIEGERT I understood.
From 1628 hours to 1658 hours, I was en route to the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT JAIL. At 1651 hours, during the ride over, the seatbelt came off of AVERY. I
heard a sharp metallic click as it hit the side of the door. I looked back and he said my seatbelt
came off. I said okay. I then typed dispatch for them to put in the notes and to let the jail know
the seatbelt had come off and I was not going to stop to re-belt him due to the fact I had no
backup.
At 1658 hours, I arrived at the CALUMET COUNTY JAIL. I was there until 1708 hours filling
out the booking papers for STEVEN AVERY. AVERY was cooperative the whole time and did
not speak anymore on the ride over nor did I speak to him..
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on 11/09/05, I (Deputy RICK RIEMER, Unit #832, of the CALUMET CoUNTy SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT) was summoned and arrived at the scene at approximately 1600 hours,
however, did not have any duties.
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I retumed a phone call and did receive a number for a family member who attends UW-
STEVENS POINT. Upon talking to the family member, I was informed she had a friend named
AMy VINCENT and her friend's dad was on the AVERY property on 10/31/05 filling the
propane tanks at the AVERy residence. The family member informed me she would attempt to
iocate AMY VINCENT to get a telephone number for her father.
I got a call from the family member with DANIEL VINCENT's home phone number and cell
phone number.
on Thursd ay,IllI0l05, I did place a phone call to DANIEL VINCENT. Upon speaking with
DANIEL, he confirmed that ne alO deliver propane to the AVERY residence on Monday,
I0l3Ilo5. I asked Mr. vINCENT where on the property he was. He stated he had to fill up the
tank at ALLAN and DoLoRES AVERY's residence. I asked Mr. VINCENT if he went down
his
the road to STEVEN AVERy's residence. He stated he did not. Mr. VINCENT indicated
work order was only for ALLAN and DOLORES AVERY. I asked Mr. VINCENT what time
he
arrived on the AVERY property and Mr. VINCENT told me he believed it was around 1300 to
1330 hours. Mr. VINCENi stated he would look at the work order slip to confirm
the exact time
and would get back to me with that information'
Mr. VINCENT informed me this was the first time he had to deliver propane to the AVERY
residence. He said when he pulled into the business, he thought it was very strange
because
were closed
there was absolutely no activity around the property. He stated all the outbuildings
tank on the
up tight and stated he had some difficulty locating the location of the propane
piop".ty belonging to ALLAN to DOLoRES AVERY. He said when he finally located the tank'
ir" had io backin between vehicles to fill the tank. Mr. VNCENT stated as he was filling the
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tank, he was startled by the presence of DOLORES AVERY. Mr. VINCENT stated she yelled at
him, "Are you supposed to be here? You're not the guy we get the gas from." Mr. VINCENT
stated he explained this was his first time delivering to them but it was indeed the company they
always got their propane from. Mr. VINCENT stated he tried to engage in conversation with
DOLORES AVERY by asking her whose sharp looking lime colored vehicle was parked in the
driveway. He said he asked DOLORES AVERY if the car was hers. She said the car was not
hers and that it belonged to one of her sons. Mr. VINCENT stated he continued to fillthe
propane into the tank and stated he had a really weird feeling and was uncomfortable with this
delivery. Mr. VINCENT stated DOLORES seemed very nervous and said that gave him a really
weird feeling.
I informed Mr. VINCENT he should call me back when he received the exact time he was on the
AVERY property.
On Friday, llllll05,I
did receive a return phone call at 1301 hours from DANIEL VINCENT.
Mr. VINCENT told me he did look at the records and the records indicate he arrived on the
AVERY property at 1226 hours and he left the property at 1300 hours.
On 1 1/10/05, we brought back a large group of state troopers and they again began to search the
areas outside of the salvage yard. They began searching areas that we had covered on Monday.
At this time, they were now searching for additional evidence related to the bum pit. Also on
nlrcl15 at approximately 10:28 a.m., I (Lt. SIPPEL) made contact with an individual by the
name of DAVID G. HOOKER, DOB 04lIIl58. DAVID is an employee of WFRV Channel5. I
made contact with DAVID on the east ridge of the gravel pit just to the south of the salvage yard.
DAVID was observed by our officer in the southeast comer of the salvage yard. I (Lt. SIPPEL)
made contact from the northeast side via an ATV and advised DAVID that he needed to leave. I
informed him the road that he was coming off of was posted as closed and that another breach
like that would result in his arrest.
Searching continued throughout the day with several sites being located in a county quaffy to the
southwest. These sites were marked and GPS was taken and later recovered on Friday afternoon,
llllll05.As of late Friday afternoon, we had three sites remaining, which were recovered on
Saturday morning.
James A. Beining
DOB 12104174
2397 Yolanda Circle
Green Bayo WI 54303
Telephone number: 920-498-0987
On Thursday, 11/10/05, at 1040 hours, I (DEDERING) did have contact with the following
individual regarding this matter:
JAMES A. BEINING
DOB 12104174
2397 Yolanda Circle
Green Bay, WI 54303
Telephone number: 920-498-0987
Cell phone number: 920-367-0458
Work phone number: 920-499-4334
He stated that on Wednesday morning, Lll02l05,he called TERESA's cell phone and left a voice
mail. He stated her phone rang a couple of times before going to voice mail and that caused him
to assume the cell phone was still active at that time.
Investigation continues.
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Interview of:
Peter A. Dassey
DOB 07123158
1g13 lgth St.
Two Rivers, WI 54241
Phone:793-5307
At approximately 11:35 a.m., on 11/10/05, we began our interview with PETER A. DASSEY. I
astcelpptBR to describe his relationship with his ex-wife, BARBARA. PETER said they were
married for approximately six years and were divorced in 1996. He said they had four children
together during that time. He said during the last three years, the relationship had gone bad, that
th-y weren't talking to each other and there was no communication. He stated BARBARA had
been going out a lot. He said they had tried to go to counseling for their problems; however, she
did not attend any counseling. PETER said they did date for a year or two before living together
and then she had gotten pregnant with their first child. PETER said they then got married. He
said the relationship was good for the first three years prior to the marriage and for about three
years after they weie married. PETER said BARBARA has always wanted a girl, and she had
iold him on several occasions that she was going to get pregnant by somebody else. PETER said
when they divorced, he did not leave the family on good terms.
I asked PETER to describe his relationship with STEVEN. He said he knew STEVEN before he
went to prison and had always got along with him. He described STEVEN as being immature,
stating he had to grow up and did act childish. He said after STEVEN had gotten out of prison,
however, there had been threats made by STEVEN with a knife and a gun. PETER felt that
STEVEN was capable of doing anything and he and LORI (STEVEN's ex-wife) were scared the
first month he was out of prison. PETER said they had locked the house up right after STEVEN
got out of prison because they had feared him. PETER recalled that while STEVEN was in
get to PETER and
friro.r, Sf^pVpN did have contact with his children and would use them to
LORI.
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After TERESA disappeared, STEVEN, who is very close to his daughter, JENNIFER, (ph), said
that LORI probably had called the police about this and told them that he (STEVEN) did it and
that he would run to the Crivitz area. PETER said STEVEN could get very angry if the right
buttons were pushed and that he had threatened people in the past with weapons.
It should be noted that PETER was married to BARBARA and BARBARA had made the
comment that STEVEN was a hot head. He said the kids really did not take to him; and once in
awhile, they had arguments but the relationship was the same with all of the AVERY family.
pETER described CHARLES as being discouraged and depressed because of the current divorce
he was going through when PETER knew him. He said CHARLES had never threatened
anybody with weapons and he was a more laid back person. PETER said CHARLES was a lot
different than STEVEN.
PETER said he and BARBARA would only visit once in a while and they were not there all the
time to see a lot of the interaction between the family. PETER said EARL was the kind of
person he could see eye-to-eye on a lot of things with. He said he was a lot like CHARLES but
more.,up" and PETER never had to watch what he said around him.
pETER said STEVEN was the only one that ever gave them problems because of STEVEN's
divorce with LORI who he is currently married to. PETER said they had recently been there,
around September, for a graduation party and did not observe anlthing out of the ordinary. The
only thinghe felt was odd was that ALLAN was living in Crivitz and DoLoRES was staying at
home by herself. I asked PETER when LORI would be home and he said she usually gets home
around 2:30 and watches her grandson.
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Interview with ROBERT M. FABIAN JR.. M/W, DOB 04/03166 and CINDY L. FABIAN, DOB
0513U69:
ROBERT FABIAN informed investigators on Monday night, 10131105, ROBERT arrived at the
AVERY AUTO SALVAGE yard at approximately 4:30 p.m. ROBERT was looking for EARL
AVERY to do some rabbit hunting on the auto salvage yard properly. ROBERT arrived by the
main shop parking where he asked CHUCK (or CHARLES AVERY) where EARL was.
ROBERT stated he could hear EARL was on the end-loader and was informed by CHARLES
that EARL was on the end-loader. ROBERT believed CHARLES AVERY to be walking out of
the blue, newer shed building. ROBERT then observed STEVE AVERY walking into the
location where ROBERT and CHARLES were located. ROBERT FABIAN describes STEVEN
AVERY as wearing a cream colored shirt, sleeveless, with apair of blue jeans. ROBERT
overhears CHARLES AVERY ask STEVEN AVERY if the photographer had arrived yet.
ROBERT FABIAN comments to CHARLES AVERY, "A photographer? Are you getting your
picture taken?" CHARLES indicates they were getting pictures of vehicles to put in AUTO
TRADER magazine. STEVEN AVERY replies to CHARLES AVERY, no, she hadn't shown
up yet. ROBERT FABIAN leaves and meets EARL AVERY, they proceed to get their guns and
go walking into the junkyard looking for rabbits. EARL and ROBERT FABIAN picked up
EARL'5 mother's golf cart and proceeded into the junkyard. ROBERT FABIAN indicates they
drove the golf cart through the lane by AVERY's pond to the south where TERESA
HALBACH's vehicle was found. ROBERT indicates if TERESA HALBACH's vehicle had
been in that location on Monday night, EARL would have told him something because EARL
knows every car that's in the yard. ROBERT FABIAN indicates EARL picks up two trees and
places them in the back of the golf cart and they attempt rabbit hunting in the lower pit area.
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After being unsuccessful, EARL and ROBERT proceed back up into the yard and drive down
Avery Road toward the residence of STEVEN AVERY.
ROBERT while riding in the golf carl on Avery Rd. observed STEVEN AVERY exit his
residence and walk towards his black pickup truck, which has a trailer with a snowmobile on the
trailer. ROBERT indicates STEVEN had changed his clothes. It has appeared STEVEN has
cleaned up. STEVEN is now wearing a white shoft sleeve t-shirt and blue jean shorts. ROBERT
FABIAN observes something different in STEVEN AVERY's behavior. ROBERT FABIAN
describes STEVEN's behavior as different and more quiet. EARL and ROBERT stop the golf
cart and ROBERT FABIAN asks STEVEN if he would like to buy a Polaris instead of the black
700 Skidoo Zmachine, which is on the trailer. ROBERT FABIAN describes this as a joke in
which ROBERT and STEVEN kid each other. ROBERT FABIAN responds, STEVEN's
response is very quiet and seems unamused. ROBERT recalls EARL asking STEVEN what he
is doing with the snowmobile. STEVEN indicates, "He is taking the sled up north." ROBERT
describes STEVEN's black truck with attached trailer and snowmobile as facing STEVEN's
detached garage. He describes the truck as parked, blocking a side of the garage overhead door.
He indicates the detached garage door is closed. ROBERT obseles a smoke-burning coming
from a burn barrel, located north of the driveway on STEVEN AVERY's residence. EARL and
ROBERT leave on the golf cart driving a brush pile line looking for rabbits.
When they return, it is dark. ROBERT observes an older DASSEY boy who he believes is either
BRYAN or BOBBY with STEVEN standing on opposite ends of the pickup truck. ROBERT
describes the DASSEY boy as wearing a white T-shirt with print on the front. ROBERT
indicates it appears as though STEVEN is ready to go up north. ROBERT does not remember
seeing any cars or any other vehicles in the driveway of STEVEN's residence. ROBERT said he
and EARL did not stop, however, ROBERT yells he should buy a Polaris instead of STEVEN's
Skidoo. ROBERT indicates he believes STEVEN seemed very quiet, not himself, on the
evening of 10/31/05. ROBERT believes EARL also seemed different as well that day.
ROBERT does not remember seeing any cars in the crusher on Monday. ROBERT does not
recall seeing anything unusual in the area where the human bones were located. ROBERT says
he is home by 6:00 p.m., Monday,10131/05. ROBERT estimates it takes approximately 10 to 15
minutes from his residence in Mishicot to get to the AVERY SALVAGE YARD.
The following week, ROBERT receives a phone call at his residence from CINDY's sister,
THERESA (ph) LNU. THERESA LNU has informed either CINDY or ROBERT that she has
talKed to CANDY AVERY, EARL AVERY,s wife. THERESA LNU tells ROBERT thAt ShC
was told by CANDY AVERY that ROBERT and EARL were rabbit hunting on the property on
Wednesday, 17102105, instead of Monday, 10131/05. ROBERT indicates he is sure it was
Monday, 10131105, because CINDY has taken the children trick or treating.
CINDy FABIAN thinks STEVEN is fully capable of sexually assaulting, killing and having
domestic violence against women. ROBERT also thinks STEVEN is fully capable of doing this.
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The FABIANS, CINDY and ROBERT, indicate EARL AVERY also has violent tendencies.
CINDY says that CANDY has told her of abuses in which CANDY has been dragged by her hair
upstairs and raped. CINDY also informs investigators they lived at the AVERY SALVAGE
YARD until one night when EARL lifted up her daughter's skirt with his foot. Shortly
thereafter, the FABIANS left the AVERY SALVAGE YARD residence where they were
staying.
ROBERT FABIAN also describes STEVEN as very weird when it comes to dealing with
women. ROBERT FABIAN JR. describes STEVEN's comments as, "if it's a hole mentality or
mind-set."
Investigator STEIER indicates ROBERT is referring to STEVEN having sex with women, not
based on their appearance.
ROBERT FABIAN also indicates the skid-steer has forks usually on it and ROBERT knows they
have a bucket for it and it is usually in the blue shed. ROBERT and CINDY FABIAN have not
talked to any of the AVERY clan since Monday, 10131105, except ROBERT called EARL on
Friday, lIl04l05, iu reference an altemator.
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The evidence was also transported with me to the scene whereupon Special Agent PEVYTOE
and Special Agent STURDIVANT began to look over a dirt mound south of the red garage. The
mound had previously had a German Shepherd dog situated atop of it.
On 1 1/10/05 at 1651 hrs., I received a bag containing dog stool which was turned over to me by
Special Agent STURDIVANT. It was tagged with Property Tag# 7937 . Special Agent
STURDIVANT left me a note stating that Deputy MIKE POLISH of the MANITOWOC
couNTy SHERIFF',s DEPT., had tumed over the dog stool to Det. BRIAN W. SWETLIK of
the MANITOWOC POLICE DEPT. at 1350 hrs., who in turn, turned over the item to Special
Agent STURDIVANT.
I was also assisted by Special Agent RON EBBEN and Special Agent JIM SIELEHR of the
DEpARTMENT OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS. They sorted through a fire pit near a
mound, which was to the south of the red garage on the AVERY property. There were various
items that were turned over to me. These items were then tumed over to Special Agent JIM
HOLMES of the DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS for transport to the WI
STATE CRIME LAB.
None of the evidence collected on 11/10/05 was tumed into the CALUMET COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT; rather, it was turned over to Special Agent HOLMES.
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On 11/10/05 at 1422 hours, I (DEDERING) did file a Return of Warrant along with a copy of the
original Warant for the AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE and other buildings with the
MANITOWOC COI.INTY CLERK OF COURTS.
It should be noted I did refer to the 1999 Toyota RAV4 as a 7994 RAV4. I had faxed over a
copy of our Affidavit of Return prior to noticing my mistake.
I did send over an orieinal at alater time with the correction indicated.
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REPORTING
OFFICER: Inv. Wendy Baldwin
LORI said they got married in July of 1982 at the MANITOWOC COUNTY COURTHOUSE.
LORI thought that STEVEN was a rather nice guy until they got married. After they married,
they moveJto the address on Old County Y and from there it was very rocky with a lot of
domestics and physical and verbal abuse. LORI said their oldest daughter, RACHEL, was bom
in March of the next year. She described the relationship as being very physical and violent'
consisting of choking, hitting and punching. LORI said in the verbal abuse situations, he would
tell her that if she ever left him he would kill her, her children and her family and nobody would
want her anyway. She said he was always with her and would never let her go anyr,vhere without
him. She said if he would leave and she'n'ould be home alone, he would take the phone with
him so she could not call anYbodY.
LORI said while she was on the phone with her sister, she looked out the window and saw a cat
running around the yard on fire. LORI said STEVEN had several of his friends with him and
they were laughing about it and thought it was a big joke. LORI said at that time, her sister had
calied the police *6i"tr she said was better for her because she probably would have had to suffer
consequences if she would have been the one to call the police.
LORI thought the entire family was strange and STEVEN could be capable of this crime. LORI
said STEVEN was also a man that would never take no for an answef.
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LORI stated he would be very persuasive with her for sex, however, she said he never forced her
to have sex. LORI said she feels she would not be here if STEVEN didn't go to prison. LORI
said she would never fight back in the arguments they had and he was very verbally degrading
and threatening to her.
LORI said he always gets what he wants and is very violent when he is angry. She did say in
one year they went through 12 vehicles because he would blow up the engine or smash up the
vehicle. LORI said he would damage fumiture and cars and one never knew what would set him
off. LORI stated he never attended any anger classes in prison as he refused to do that.
LORI stated he made her help out in the yard with the cars while she was pregnant with her
twins.
LORI remembers one incident, while she was driving a vehicle, when he had gotten mad at her
and smashed the windshield because she wasn't steering right. LORI also recalled an incident
with her oldest son, JASON, who was not STEVEN's biological son. LORI said she started
working outside of the home; and if she wasn't there for her children, he would start acting out
on them. LORI stated one evening when she came home, JASON had two front teeth missing
and STEVEN said he ran into one of the 2 X 4's in the house while they were remodeling.
LORI, however, found out several years later that STEVEN had slugged JASON in the mouth
for smarting off.
LORI said her oldest daughter, RACHEL, was six months old already when he got of out jail so
there was never a very close connection. LORI said RACHEL was a very happy baby until
STEVEN would enter the room and she would begin to cry and be very upset. LORI said he was
stricter with her as far as punishment than with his other daughter, JENNIFER, who was bom
shortly after he got out ofjail.
LORI said in approximately February of 1988, she had divorced STEVEN. LORI said after the
divorce, he would send threatening letters in the mail, threatening to kill her and her family. He
would also send letters in the mail threatening her life addressed to her two-year-old children.
LORI said the court did order that she had to take her twin boys to see him in prison; however,
he would send letters with them to give to her, threatening to hurt or kill her. LORI did say a
Court Order was denied and that she no longer had to take them to prison to visit him.
LORI said she and her husband feared STEVEN when he got out of prison. LORI stated they
locked everything up and were very cautious after he got out of prison. LORI stated she does
still see him from time to time driving by her house to check up on her. LORI said the last time
they were out there was in September on Labor Day weekend and nothing at that time seemed to
be out of order or not normal.
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I asked LORI if she could describe the other two brothers and their personalities, traits, hobbies
or things they liked to do.
LORI said CHUCK was a lot like STEVEN, very abusive with women and would beat his ex-
wife, DONNA. She said when you first meet CHUCK, he seems very calm, however, he also
had a bad temper. She has also seen CHUCK rip off refrigerator doors and fuiniture. LORI
describes CHUCK as walking on eggshells and never knowing what would set him off. LORI
said he would stand up for his brothers and you never want to cross that family. LORI stated
CHUCK had also made sexual advances toward her while she was pregnant. LORI did state she
felt CHUCK and STEVEN were closer because they worked together in the yard quite a bit.
LORI feels perhaps lately he is learning to control his anger through the divorces he has had and
some of the counseling.
LORI described EARL as being mild mannered and rvilling to help others. She said she never
had any problems with EARL, however, he was in his teens when she left STEVEN. LORI said
when STEVEN was locked up in jail, EARL helped her out quite a bit.
LORI said any one of them could be capable of doing something like this and she felt a body
could have been dumped somewhere or taken up nor1h. LORI did say all the boys in that family
had a hard time taking no for an answef and they were very street smart.
LORI described DOLORES as also being abused and beaten by her husband, ALLAN. She said
that she would supporl, protect, and stick up for her kids no matter what happened- LORI also
said DOLORES would never step in, in the middle of a fight, when one of her boys would be
beating up a wife or girlfriend. LORI said that would be ALLAN's place to keep peace with the
boys. |ORI also said ALLAN was a big drinker as well as the rest of the boys. LORI said they
had a tapper in the garage with a keg inside and all the kids, except for maybe EARL, did do
drugs.
LORI said BARBARA was very protective of her brothers as well. LORI doesn't think she
would have anl.thing to do with it, but she would cover everything up or be a person to drive the
car away. LORI stated she does recall, STEVEN and ALLAN beating her up and dragging her
around by the hair. LORI said she has strong suspicions about possibly CHARLES or STEVEN
being involved with this.
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REPORTING
OFFICER: Inv. Wendy Baldwin
After leaving LORI's residence, I (Inv. WENDY BALDWIN of the CALUMET COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT) was able to make phone contact with BRYAN J. DASSEY, DOB
07115185, who agreed to drive to the AURORA MEDICAL CENTER for the completion of the
Search Warrant to obtain his DNA samples along with his finger and palm prints. BRYAN did
meet us at the AURORA MEDICAL CENTER and those items were taken by the RN SANE
nurse on duty, FAY L. FRITSCH. Special Agent LISA WILSON conducted the interview as
well as advised him of his Miranda Rights and provided a copy of the Search Warrant. See her
report for details on the interview.
After the DNA collection was completed, it was turned over to Special Agent LISA WILSON.
BRYAN did follow Special Agent LISA WILSON and I to the TWO RIVERS POLICE
DEPARTMENT where BRYAN was fingerprinted. Those fingerprints were also turned over to
Special Agent LISA WILSON who took them into custody.
Special Agent LISA WILSON later turned the DNA and prints over to the WI STATE CRIME
LAB.
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The following is a list of items located atW3637 CTH B, which Inv. STEIER believes to be
TERESA HALBACH's exclusive possessions:
o Property Tag No. 7802, Item Nos. I and2, one CINGULAR box and one
Motorola phone, located in a filing cabinet in the dining room of the residence,
collected at 4:55 P.m.
o Property Tag No. 781 0, Item No. 3, one saline solution bottle, located in a
bathroom of the residence, collected at 5:00 p.m.
o Property Tag No. 781 l, Item No. 4, one makeup foundation base, located in the
bathroom by Inv. STEIER, collected at 5:03 p.m.
o Property Tag No. 7812, Item No. 5, one container of toothpaste, located in the
bathroom by Inv. STEIER, collected at 5:04 p.m.
o Property Tag No. 7813, Item No. 6, a bottle with eye dropper, containing a
prescription for TERESA HALBACH, located in the bathroom by Inv. STEIER,
collected at 5:05 P.m.
o Property Tag No. 7814, Item No. 7, one phone bill and one phone instruction
booklet, located in a black filing cabinet in an upstairs bedroom by Inv. STEIER,
collected at 5:19 P.m.
Said evidence was kept in Inv. STEIER's exclusive possession until such time as it was
inventoried, marked and sealed in evidence collections bags and turned over to Inv. JOHN
DEDERTNG.
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At 1925 hours,I did transfer the evidence gathered by Inv. STEIER to DCI Special Agent
JAMES HOLMES. This transfer took place on CTH B just east of CTH BB. HOLMES
apparently transported these items to the crime lab for processing.
Investigation continues.
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Upon walking north on Avery Rd., a state patrol officer did direct our attention south to the
qualry. Upon walking down the embankment towards the qualry, I did notice two state patrol
officers standing by a small area of standing water. The state patrol officers indicated they
found, what they believed to be, a human vertebrae in the water. Special Agent RON EBBEN
stated he would stand by at the possible human vertebrae while I continued to the area where the
state patrol offtcers possibly found a charred human foot.
Continuing norlh through the quaffy, I did locate a group of state patrol officers standing around
an object. Upon making contact with them, they informed me they found something that
resembled a human foot that was chaned. Upon looking at the item, I could not distinguish if
this, indeed, was or was not a charred human foot.
Special Agent FASSBENDER, Inv. WIEGERT and Sheriff PAGEL arrived with Medical
Examiner MICHAEL KLAESER. Medical Examiner KLAESER looked at the object and stated
he did not believe it to be that of a human foot. Correctional Officer TODD KONEN arrived on
scene and stated he would stand by with the object while I went to get a camera and evidence
bags.
Special Agent RON EBBEN directed my attention back to his location and he did show me a rag
with a brownish red colored stain on it. Upon walking away from that object, I did locate, what
appeared to be, fresh blood in the gravel. Medical Examiner KLAESER did arrive at my
location and did confirm that he did believe it also to be blood. I informed Medical Examiner
KLAESER I had some concerns due to the fact we did have a substantial amount of rain within
the past couple of days and felt it to be very odd that this could possibly be blood from the case
we were working on. Medical Examiner KLAESER agreed although I did wish to collect the
blood for evidentiary purposes. I did photograph the area of blood and did apply two drops of
distilled water to a sterilized cotton swab and did swab the bloodstain. That stain was collected
at l716 hours. At 1718 hours, I did a control swab of the gravel in the vicinity of the possible
blood.
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I went back to Special Agent EBBEN's location and did photograph the rag that had the
brownish red stains on it. That item was collected at 1724 hours.
Special Agent EBBEN and I went back to Correctional Officer KONEN's location and did
photograph the charred object. That item was collected at 1743 hours.
All items were placed in my squad car and transpofted back to the CALUMET COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. In the evidence room, I did open up the bag that had the possible
charred human foot to find the item had flipped over and it did appear to be a piece of bumt
insulation. A11 items were placed into the secured evidence room.
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On Thursd ay, llll0l05, at 1746 hours, I (DEDERING) did receive a telephone call from
Assistant District Attorney FROEHLICH regarding this matter. He stated a subject named
ERVIN KOEHNKE was on one of the television stations indicating he had seen TERESA's unlit
vehicle in a turnaround on STH 147 east of I43 on Thursday moming, 11103105.
I was unable to locate any information on Mr. KOEHNKE at the time of this dictation.
Investigation continues.
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Julie Stadler
l4l2Terrace Ct.
Two Rivers, WI 54241
Telephone number: 920-793-1023
Cell phone number: 920-629-3053
JULIE STADLER
I4l2Terrace Ct.
Two Rivers,WI5424l
Telephone number: 920-7 93-1023
Cell phone number: 920-629-3053
JULIE indicated she and her husband were at MENARD'S on the evening of 11/03/05 at
approximately 2010 hours. She stated at that time, she observed a person recognized as
STEVEN AVERY in the checkout line closest to the building supplies. She indicated she
recognized STEVEN AVERY and thought he may have been with his brother, CHARLES
AVERY. She observed them purchasing a "chop saw." She stated her husband was with her
and he also believed this was a chop saw.
JULIE indicated her husban d is a 24 hour firefighter and I could contact him regarding this
information.
I then followed by placing a phone call to MENARD'S in Manitowoc. I spoke with RYAN J.
ZIMMERMAN (ph) who is the security person on second shift. He indicated they do have the
registers videotaped in a regular tape player and he stated the tape would need to go to Eau
Claire to be formatted. He stated he would check the tapes for me to ensure that the tape for
11/03/05 was present.
ZIMMERMAN subsequently advised me the tape for lll03l05 was gone and it may have been
already provided to law enforcement.
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I was advised subsequently that receipts for the AVERYS were checked and the purchase for
11103105 was not a chop saw but was a planer.
Investigation continues.
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DOCUMENTSGENERATED: FacsimileTransmittal
This agency did receive a facsimile transmission concetning this matter, a copy of which can be
found incorporated into this report.
Investigation continues.
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MICHAEL T. KUDICK
DOB 09126171
N9800 Wildwood Lane
Crivitz, wI 54114
Telephone number: 7 15-7 57 -3120
KUDICK indicated someone he is familiar with had spotted STEVEN AVERY on a pay phone
at RENE'S SUPPER CLUB on CTH S in the Town of Stephenson near the Twin Bridge area on
Monday, lll07l05. KUDICK indicated he has gotten this information from a friend of his who
does not, at this time, wish to get involved. KUDICK indicated he would be in contact with the
individual who had actually witnessed this, and would contact me to let me know if the
individual wished to speak with law enforcement or not. KUDICK indicated to the best of his
knowledge, Mr. AVERY was on a pay phone for about one hour between the hours of 1930 and
2030.
Investigation continues.
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On 11/11/05, DCI Agents MIKE RINDT and ROD PEVYTOE came to the CALUMET
COLIIITY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT to go through five barrels. They went through banel
marked #4 and retrieved a red, cutoff shirt, which was handed to me to be placed into evidence.
In a burn barrel without any markings, MIKE RINDT and ROD PEVYTOE retrieved an
unknown bumt cloth, which I placed into evidence. MIKE RINDT and ROD PEVYTOE also
recovered a bone, which was not suspected to be of human origin. I placed the bone into
evidence.
After DCI Agent RINDT and PEVYTOE were finished with the barrel with no markings and
barrel marked #4, they went back to the crime scene.
I received call from Inv. WIEGERT asking me to gather the following items out of
a phone
evidence to be transported to the WI STATE CRIME LAB in Madison:
The items, a transmittal letter and a cover letter were given to Cpl. CHRIS WENDORF of the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF',S DEPARTMENT to be transported to the wl STATE
CRIME LAB in Madison. Cpl. WENDORF signed for the items that were released to him.
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On Friday, IlllIl05,I (Deputy RICK RIEMER, Unit #832, of the CALUMET COLINTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT) began my duties with assisting in the excavation of the mound
where the bum pit was located. I did locate several suspected bumt bone fragments from the
bum pit area as excavation was being done. The excavation was accomplished by the use of two
skid-steer loaders.
The following items were recovered during the excavation and search of the mound area behind
the red garage'.
. Property Tag #7946, commingled metal with battery jumper cable and a dog leash, which
was south of the fire pit collected a|0844 hours
. Propefiy Tag #7947,burnt material south of the fire pit collected at 0850 hours
. Propefiy Tag #lg4\,burnt material south of the fire pit collected at 0857 hours
. Property Tag #7949, frame from a car seat south of the fire pit collected at 0854 hours
. Properly Tag #1950, commingled wire and metal south of the fire pit collected at 0856
hours
. Property Tag#7951, plastic jug with an unknown substance in it south of the fire pit,
collected at 0900 hours
. Property Tag #1952, oily substance from Property Tag#795I, collected at 0902 hours
. Property Tag#7g53,various clothing items behind the light blue house near the burn pit,
collected at 1430 hours
. Property Tag #7g54,burnt material below the berm southeast from the red garage,
collected at 1501 hours
. Property Tag #7955,bone fragments from the area behind the red garage, collected at
1557 hours
. Property Tag #7g5g,blanket from the doghouse behind the red garage, collected at 1610
hours
. property Tag #7951, a plastic pail with dog food in the dog house behind the red garage,
collected at1614 hours
. property Tag #7956, a blanket from the doghouse behind the red garage, collected at
1606 hours
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CITIZEN
CONTACT: Lucy A. Meier, F/W
DOB 01/20ls1
WI State Crime Lab
626 University Avenue
Madison, WI 53705
Telephone number: 608-266-2031
Sue E. Gitchel
DOB unknown
WI State Crime Lab
4626University Avenue
Madison, WI 53705
Telephone number: 608-266-2031
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At 1045 hours on same date, Lt. JOHN BYRNES of the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT and I did leave from the Chilton area en route with SCOTT'S TOWING's
flatbed operated by BRYAN ROEHRIG, and DAN'S TOWING's flatbed operated by DAN
BANGART.
At 1300 hours, we did arrive at the WI STATE CRIME LAB on University Avenue in Madison,
WI and did take possession of a blue, 4-door, Toyota RAV4 vehicle with the VIN of
JT3HPl0V5X7ll3044, and a 1993 Pontiac Grand Am with a VIN of 1G2NW14N9PC726145.
This evidence was collected from LUCY A. MEIER, a WI STATE CRIME LAB technician at
1300 hours. Also given to me was the hood of a Rambler vehicle.
The two vehicles were loaded on the flatbed tow trucks. The Toyota RAV4 was loaded on the
SCOTT'S TOWING flatbed along with the hood of the Rambler strapped to the flatbed
undemeath the Toyota RAV4. The Pontiac Grand Am was loaded onto the DAN'S TOWING
flatbed unit.
Also given to me by MEIER was a key the WI STATE CRIME LAB had made in order to enter
the Toyota RAV4 vehicle as the original vehicle key had not been located at the time they had
received the vehicle.
Also while at the WI STATE CRIME LAB, I had delivered an envelope addressed to the WI
STATE CRIME LAB that had been given to me by Deputy HAWKINS that did contain
evidence with a Buccal swab from STEVEN AVERY and palm and print cards from CHARLES
AVERY, EARL AVERY and BOBBY DASSEY. This evidence package was tumed over to
SUE E. GITCHEL of the WISCONSIN STATE CRIME LAB and taken by her at 1323 hours on
same date. GITCHEL did give me a Receipt of Physical Evidence form, which will be submitted
to the Deputy HAWKINS, the evidence custodian.
At 1330 hours, we did depart from the WI STATE CRIME LAB in Madison en route to Chilton
storage units. During the return trip, I did have constant visual of the TOYOTA RAV4 and there
was no entry made to the vehicle by anyone. The vehicle did not come off the tow unit until
1540 hours when we arrived at the Chilton storage units where the vehicles were stored.
The Toyota RAV4 was stored in unit #7 of the storage units off of Mary Avenue in the City of
Chilton. I did personally view the offloading of the vehicle and did utilize the key that had been
made to turn the wheels so that it could be placed inside the storage unit. I then did tape the
vehicle doors with evidence tape and initial, date and time stamp such evidence tape. The unit
was then closed and locked with a fresh, brand new Master Lock key lock that had been removed
from its packaging.
Lt. BYRNES did remain with the Pontiac Grand Am and he did evidence tape seal the doors to
that vehicle and initial that evidence tape as well. See supplemental report from Lt. BYRNES.
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At that point, I did also close the garage door to storage unit I of the same complex and opened a
fresh Master Lock key lock from the packaging and used that to secure the garage door.
Evidence tags were filled out and placed under the windshield wipers of the vehicles secured in
the storage units. Property Tag No. 8027 belongs to the Toyota RAV4 and Property Tag No.
8028 is for the Pontiac Grand Am.
The vehicles were stored in the storage units off of Mary Avenue and a key copy that was made
for the Toyota RAV4 was brought back to the sherifls department along with keys for the
Master Locks used to secure the garage doors. The following sets of keys were bagged, sealed
and labeled for evidence and submitted to the evidence storage area in the evidence room at the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT:
o Bag No. I with Property Tag No. 8037 is a key copy for the Toyota RAV4 that was
made by the WI STATE CRIME LAB, collected at 1300 hours, same time vehicles
were collected.
. Bag No. 2 with Properly Tag No. 8038 contains two Master Lock keys for storage unit
#7. This storage unit contains the Toyota RAV4 and the hood for the Rambler.
. Bag No. 3 with Property Tag No. 8039 contains two Master Lock keys for storage unit
I, which contains the Pontiac Grand Am.
Evidence bags and property tags, along with evidence, were deposited in Locker #1 of the
storage area to await the property custodian for proper logging. This was done at approximately
1930 hours after Sgt. TYSON did retum and open the evidence area.
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We left Chilton at approximately 1045 hours and arrived at the WI STATE CRIME LAB in
Madison at 1300 hours. I accompanied DAN'S TOWING and once in Madison, a 7993 Pontiac
Grand Am, which displayed WI License Plate 187-JJF and VIN 1G2NW14N9PC726145, was
loaded onto the wrecker. I accompanied DAN'S TOWING with this vehicle back to the City of
Chilton.
We left the WI STATE CRIME LAB at approximately 1330 hours and arrived in the City of
Chilton at approximately 1540 hours. The 1993 Grand Am was placed into storage unit I and
after the vehicle was placed into the storage unit, I was able to apply evidence tape to both
passenger doors, the trunk and the hood. After the vehicle was sealed with evidence tape, Cpl.
WENDORF closed the door to the storage unit and placed a lock on the door.
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On Friday, 11111105 at 1056 hours, DCI Special Agent DEB STRAUSS and I (DEDERING) did
interview JODI STACHOWSKI, previously mentioned in this report, at the MANITOWOC
COLINTY SHERIFF' S DEPARTMENT.
Prior to having any questions asked of her, STACHOWSKI was advised of her Miranda Rights
and she did indicate she understood these rights and knowingly waived them. For a copy of this
interview, please see the detailed report of Special Agent STRAUSS.
Investigation continues.
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Donna M. Avery
DOB 07/29t56
1407 Two Creeks Rd.
Mishicot, Wl 54228
Phone: 776-1481
On 11/1 1105 at approximately 1315 hours, Special Agent LISA WILSON of the STATE OF WI
DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION and I (Inv. BALDWIN) made contact with
DONNA M. AVERY at her residence of 1407 Two Creeks Rd., Mishicot. When I spoke to
DONNA at her front door, she had informed me two cops had talked to her earlier in the week
and she did not know why I needed to speak with her. I informed DONNA I would like to ask
some follow-up questions with her if she wouldn't mind taking a few minutes to talk with us.
DONNA did invite us in to her home to speak with her.
DONNA said on Wednesday,Ill09l05, CHARLES, STEVEN and BLANE had come over to
her residence. She thought it was very strange that they would come over for no reason.
DONNA said her ex-husband, CHARLES, had always told her he would never step foot in her
house; however, that evening they came inside and sat down at her kitchen table. She said she
still does not understand why they were there because they did not have a purpose in coming
over to ask or discuss anything. DONNA said when they sat down, the three of them kept
staring at the door in the kitchen. She said again she thought it was very strange that they came
over. The only thing she can recall that they had talked about of any importance was this case
and how STEVEN had told them he was innocent and he was being framed. She had thought
maybe they were there to say good-bye.
DONNA describes STEVEN as being very cool with no emotion in regards to this, which she
thought was a little strange. DONNA said CHARLES looked extremely tired and just wanted to
get this over with. DONNA described STEVEN as having a smart mouth with women and
making a lot of rotten comments. She said after the divorce, STEVEN would make comments
like, why don't you come over by me baby and now that CHARLES is done with you, I'11 take a
try. DONNA said he never got out of hand; however, she does not feel anybody has ever fought
back physically with STEVEN, that he would always get what he wanted.
DONNA described CHARLES as physical with her at times as well. She said she was married
to CHARLES for about 17 years. She said when she started to move out and file for divorce, her
phone lines were cut. DONNA said she could not prove that it was CHARLES who cut her
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phone lines, but knew that he had done it. DONNA said after the divorce, she was living in her
apartment and somehow CHARLES would crawl in through the window and she would wake up
with him standing over her in her bed in the middle of the night. She said at that time she did not
feel scared of him; however, thinks that something bad has happened in their childhood because
of EARL's, CHARLES' and STEVEN's sexual issues.
At approximately 1330 hours, while I was talking with DONNA, a press release was shown on
the news and I asked DONNA to sit down and watch the press release on the information on this
case. After watching the press conference, she said she cannot believe this has happened and she
is scared now because he could have done that to her. DONNA said STEVEN deserves it if he
had done this. DONNA said she does feel STEVEN is very capable of doing this and it would
not surprise her. She said she did hear a rumor there was a jawbone and some teeth found in the
aluminum melter and if that was true, two people had to operate that machine. She said
STEVEN would not have been able to do that by himself. She said if that was not true,
STEVEN could have done it by himself and nobody would have helped him. DONNA said
STEVEN is a control freak and he liked to control and manipulate people. DONNA said
CHARLES, on the other hand, has changed a lot because of going to jail and getting some
counseling. DONNA said she was shocked by the new information that came out about this case
and was very concemed about what was going to happen in the future.
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On Friday, llllll}S,Inv. GARY STEIER of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. along
with Special Agent STEVEN LEWIS of the STATE OF WISCONSIN DEPT. OF CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION (DCI) interviewed EARL K. AVERY, DOB 06110170, at the MISHICOT
FIRE DEPT. at approximately 12:36 p.m. Inv. STEIER informed EARL he was free to leave at
any time during the interview and did not have to stay at the MISHICOT FIRE DEPT. EARL
indicated he understood that.
EARL describes to investigators what he did at the AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE yard on
Monday, 10/31/05, the night in question of TERESA HALBACH's disappearance. On Monday,
l}l31l05, EARL states at approximately 4:30 p.m., he sees his brother-in-law, ROBERT
FABIAN, in the yard of AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE. EARL states he is trying to stay away
from CHARLES and STEVEN because he is suppose to be continuing work in the shop. EARL
states he has not seen STEVEN that afternoon. EARL states, he and ROBERT FABIAN picked
up a golf cart at his mother's house. EARL states they get a gun from his car, get in the golf cart,
and ROBERT and EARL go down to the pit. EARL states he is driving the golf cart down a lane
located on the southeast part of the salvage yard. This is where TERESA HALBACH's car is
found. EARL states he does not see the car as he drives through the back end of the property.
EARL also states the south end of the property is open into the qualry and has been for a couple
of months. EARL says he takes two trees, which he had dug up the same day, and places them
into the golf cart. EARL describes the trees as seven to nine feet tall and one to two inches in
diameter. EARL, earlier in the day, at approximately 11:00 or 12:00 has used the end-loader
with the forks to remove the trees from their location. EARL says he is going to take the trees
home with him to his residence to plant them. EARL states ROBERT and he dumped the trees
by the conveyor.
After finding no rabbits to hunt in the lower pit, EARL drives ROBERT in the golf carl down the
lane to STEVEN AVERY's residence. EARL first observed STEVEN AVERY standing, staring
at his snowmobile, which is on a trailer attached to STEVEN's black pickup truck. EARL
recalls the garage door being shut. EARL also recalls the gray Suzuki being on the east side of
the garage and that it had been there a few days prior to Monday. EARL comments that this is
strange that the Suzuki would be parked by STEVEN's detached garage and had questioned
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STEVEN several days earlier as to why the Suzuki was here. EARL describes STEVEN as
different and standing very stiff or stiff as a board. EARL states it seems as if something is
wrong with STEVEN and he is just standing there staring at the snowmobile. EARL recalls
ROBERT FABIAN yelling to STEVEN about a Polaris. He does not recall seeing a fire. EARL
does recall that STEVEN AVERY is clean and showered. EARL says he is curious why
STEVEN is unloading the snowmobile off of the trailer. EARL tells investigators it was
EARL's understanding that STEVEN was going to sell or trade in the snowmobile on the trailer
to TA MOTOR SPORTS. EARL doesn't know why STEVEN would take the snowmobile off of
the trailer and put it in the garage only to have to reload the trailer later to take it to TA MOTOR
SpORTS. EARL says STEVEN AVERY's look is unusual. He is standing just staring. He
states STEVEN is stiff not relaxed.
Inv. STEIER asks EARL if he had seen a fire at approximately 4:30 p.m. that evening. EARL
said he and ROBERT FABIAN sees STEVEN at approximately 5:00 p.m. He doesn't recall a
fire by STEVEN AVERY's residence, but states he knows there was a fire at that location.
EARL states he knows this because STEVEN has asked BRENDAN to get rid of the rims and
wire out of STEVEN AVERY's fire pit on Wednesday night and to place them on the rim pile
located in the AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE yard. EARL indicates this is unusual because the
rims and wire are already placed outside the burn area for BRENDAN to pick up. BRENDAN
did not have to take the rims out of the fire, they were already set aside. EARL says there were
approximately five to six rims there. EARL states this is on Wednesday night, 11102105.
EARL then continues to tell the events of ROBERT FABIAN and he on Monday,I0l31l05, to
investigators. EARL states he and ROBERT drive down the lane looking at several brush piles
for rabbits. They return driving past STEVEN AVERY's house where ROBERT FABIAN
5:30
shouts to STEVEN he should U"y u Polaris. EARL indicates this time to be approximately
or 5:45 p.m. EARL also informs investigators that on Tuesday night, lll01l05, his daughter,
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KAYLA (ph), wants to go over to BRENDAN or BLANE'S for a bonfire. EARL indicates that
he will not let KAYLA be alone with STEVEN and believes KAYLA to have some infatuation
with STEVEN. This is why EARL refuses to allow KAYLA to stay at the AVERY'S AUTO
SALVAGE yard for the bonfire. EARL states on Wednesday night, lIl02l05, BRENDAN takes
five rims out of a fire pit by STEVEN AVERY's residence at 5:00 p.m. EARL surmises that
there must have been a fire on Tuesday night. EARL concludes the conversation with
investigators by stating he has allowed the people to check the pit looking for TERESA
HALBACH. EARL states he never saw the victim's car prior to it being located by the friends
of TERESA. EARL is sure he would have seen TERESA HALBACH's vehicle on Monday
when they were driving down the lane in the golf cart. He indicates that really no customers go
to that area because all there is in that location is a couple of motorcycles.
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On 11/11105 aL approximately 2:20 p.m., I (Lt. SIPPEL) along with Inv. JOHN DEDERING and
two STATE OF WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION (DCI)
agents entered the ALLAN AVERY garage to remove a golf cart from the garage. We were able
to put the golf cart into neutral and roll it up into an enclosed trailer provided by PETHAN'S
AUTO of Hilbert. We then secured the golf cart in the enclosed trailer and sealed it.
We then went to a garage located on the AVERY property, that being a large shop and office for
the AVERYS. In this particular shop there was a skid-steer in the southeast comer of the shop.
It should be noted that the bucket attachment of the skid-steer was off and the fork attachment
was on. We decided to transport the skid-steer to a secured storage in Chilton. We obtained a
large container, approximately 20 feet long and 8 feet wide by 10 feet high. This container did
not have a roof on it, so we purchased a brand new, heavy-duty tarp that was 60 foot by 40 foot.
We then unraveled the tarp and placed it inside the container. We also placed atarp over the
bucket of the skid-steer. I then had NICK from PETHAN'S AUTO operate the skid-steer from
its location, pick up the bucket attachment with the fork attachment, and back it into the
container. The container we had received from MID-SHORES RECYCLING in New Holstein.
We then backed the skid-steer into the container and completely wrapped it in the clean, newly
purchased tarp. We were able to secure the tarps with straps. At that point, I signed the
Evidence Sheet over to GARY SCHULTZ who assisted in transporting the two items to Chilton.
Both the golf cart and the skid-steer left the AVERY property at approximately 1458 hours on
tU11t05.
On 11/11/05, I (Lt. SIPPEL) had been approached by the trooper recon team to go into STEVEN
AVERY's garage to do a 3-D evidentiary mock-up of the garage. I advised them this probably
would be a good idea and that we were done with evidentiary processing of that building. They
entered the garage at approximately 2230 hours on 1 1/1 1/05.
They returned to the command post at approximately 0100 hours on 11112105. At the command
post, we then discussed them coming back in the morning to do a full 3-D mock-up of the
residence or at least of AVERY's bedroom.
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On Friday, lll1ll05, at approximately 1430 hours, I (DEDERINC) did assist Lt. KELLY
SIPPEL and other individuals with loading of a golf cart from the ALLAN AVERY residence
garuge and a skid-steer from the AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE main shop.
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On 1li 11105 at approximately 1455 hours, I (Deputy GARY SCHULTZ) along with Lt. BRETT
BOWE escofted two vehicles back to Chilton from the crime scene.
We left the crime scene following two vehicles, one containing a JOHN DEERE 320 skid-steer,
and the other containing a golf cart, both of which were being transported for evidence.
At approximately 4:20 p.m., we arived at the storage facility on STH 57 north of the City of
Chilton. Once there, the golf cart was placed in garage #9 and the JOHN DEERE 320 skid-steer
was placed garage #3.
After the items were put inside the garage, the garage was locked by me using brand new Master
Locks. The keys were then placed in an envelope, appropriately marked and turned into
evidence.
It should be noted I was in contact with the two transport vehicles from the crime scene all the
way to the storage facilities. At no time did any person or persons enter those vehicles.
The only contact with the vehicles was while we were unloading them and putting them in the
storage facility.
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On 1 1/1 1105 at 1 1 :18 p.m., I (Deputy JEREMY HAWKINS) starled to log in more items that I
received as evidence from either the AVERY property or the HALBACH residence.
At 12:26 a.m. on 11112105,I had to stop logging items in to assist other officers. Items were in
short-term secured areas at all times when I was away.
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At 0826 hours, I was assigned to assist WISCONSIN STATE PATROL #367, Trooper
TIMOTHY AUSTIN, who is an accident crash reconstructionist with measuring out the AVERY
trailer. We were assigned to measure, document and diagram the entire interior and certain
contents of the trailer. I did assist with measurements and wore Latex gloves the entire time. At
1030 hours, we exited from the trailer as the measurements were completed.
At 1044 hours, I assisted Trooper TIMOTHY AUSTIN again with measuring a couple of walls
on the office of the main shop building.
While still on scene, I was informed by TOM FASSBENDER of the STATE OF WI DIVISION
OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION (DCI) that were on the scene? there was a repoft of a black
floral design tin that was somewhere inside the AVERY trailer that contained an ash like
substance. At I 101 hours on this same date, I found the container on top of the desk in the living
room and did photograph and collect that as evidence. The container was a black cookie tin with
a floral design on the outside that contained a clear plastic bag with a white ash substance in it.
The tin and its contents were bagged in a brown paper bag, sealed with evidence tape, initialed
and marked properly.
The bag was transported to the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT in the front
seat of my marked squad #810 and the evidence did not ever leave my possession until it was
placed in the evidence storage locker in the evidence room of the CALUMET COLINTY
SHERIFF'S OFFICE. Proper documentation was made on Evidence/ Property Custody
Document and submitted to Evidence Custodian JEREMY HAWKINS of the CALUMET
COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
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On 11112105, I (Inv. BALDWIN) arrived at the AVERY property at approximately 8:00 a.m. I
was requested by Sgt. BILL TYSON to assist with searching a Chevy Monte Carlo that belonged
to STEVEN AVERY.
At approximately 8:27 a.m., Sgt. TYSON and I entered a red pole shed located on the property
and searched through a blue Chevy Monte Carlo belonging to STEVEN AVERY. The license
plate on the vehicle was 926-GJL. The vehicle did list to STEVEN A. AVERY SR. being a
1985 blue Chevy Monte Carlo. The vehicle was searched, however, nothing of evidentiary value
was found. We exited the red pole shed at approximately 8:38 a.m.
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At 0830 hours, we did enter STEVEN AVERY's residence. A "Direct TV" folder and some
bills were taken into evidence by Inv. WIEGERT as was a 2004 gun deer back tag for the State
of Wisconsin. We left the residence at0843 hours.
Investigation continues.
JOSEPH MOTT
DOB 02102158
13005 Jambo Creek Rd.
Two Rivers, WI 54241
Telephone number: 920-1 55-1595
For details concerning this interview, please see the report of Special Agent HEIMERL.
Investigation continues.
THOMAS L. JANDA
DOB 0912616s
1914 Michigan Avenue
Manitowoc, WI
Telephone number: 920-684-6327
For details conceming this interview, please see the report of Special Agent HEIMERL.
Investigation continues.
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Also turned over to me was Property Tag#7958, bumt material with the words deer camp bum
barrel printed on the container, which was found at the deer camp near the location.
Property Tag#7960, burnt bone from the deer camp area, was turned over to me at 1017 hrs.
Property Tag#7961, burnt material from Site E10 was turned over to me at 1019 hours.
Property Tag#7962, burnt material from Site E9 was turned over to me at 1023 hrs.
Property Tag#7963, burnt material from deer camp was turned over to me at 1027 hours.
At 1038 hours, the first piece of bone was located in the burn pile from Item #643, bum barrel
#2. The collection of burnt bone pieces and possible tissue pieces was tumed over to me.
Property Tag#7958 and Property Tag #7963, were tumed over to the outside secure storage and
the remainder of the items were turned over to the evidence lockers.
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On the morning of llll2l05, the state arson team returned to the AVERY property to finish
collecting several items of evidence. The first item of evidence they were able to collect would
have been that of the burned garbage in an area that we refer to as the deer camp located on the
RADANDT property west/southwest of STEVEN AVERY's residence. The final two pieces
would have been that of some bone and flesh located in the MICHELS MATERIALS QUARRY
to the northeast of the AVERY property.
At 0900 hours on 11112105, I pulled all officers into the command post. We then began to
breakdown the area, and at 1 1:28 a.m. on llll2l05, Special Investigator TOM FASSBENDER
turned the property back over to the AVERYS.
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I did request the assistance of Correctional Officer LARRY SCHROEDER to come with me as
we entered the residences and videotaped the conditions in which we were leaving the
residences.
All residences were entered with the camcorder recording our entry as well as our exit of those
residences. An overview of the auto salvage yard was also included.
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Information had been developed that one of their children may possibly have seen a fire at the
AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE area durinq the week of 10/31/05 throush 11105105.
We subsequently learned that DUANE OSMI-INSON worked at the FISHER HAMILTON plant
on Columbia Street in the Two Rivers area. Upon checking with the Columbia Street plant, we
learned that Mr. OSMI-INSON was on vacation.
The human resources supervisor at the FISHER HAMILTON plant on Columbia Street indicated
that DUANE's wife, JERILYN (ph), had a work number of 920-682-0314.
At 1305 hours, I did make contact with JERILYN OSMLINSON. She stated her family has got
nothing to do with the AVERJ family. She stated her son, MICHAEL, is a good friend of
BOBBY DASSEY.
OSMTINSON went on to indicate her husband, DUANE, is in Hayward and does not have any
sort of cellular phone service in that area.
OSMTINSON indicated her son, MICHAEL, would be picking up his younger brother at the
Mishicot school system at approximately 1500 hours and would be home at approximately 1515
to 1530 hours.
OSMTINSON states her son, MICHAEL, and BOBBY DASSEY, go goose and deer hunting
together and she stated this is usually behind the OSMLINSON property.
Investigation continues.
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On Monday,11ll4l05, I (DEDERING) along with Special Agent KEVIN HEIMERL did attempt
to follow-up on leads information provided by SHANNON SCHROEDER. SCHROEDER
indicated on his tip that he had observed smoke coming from an area northwest of his residence.
SCHROEDER provided an address of 2327 CTH VV, Two Rivers, WI, and a home phone
number of 920-553 -17 7 9.
Special Agent HEIMERL and I did proceed to the CTH VV address and spoke with the
following individual:
WILLIAM E. AHRNDT
DOB 04t30t4r
2327 CTHVV
Two Rivers,Wl 54241
Telephone number: 920-553-1779
AHRNDT indicated he had seen smoke emanating from an area north/northwest from his
residence. He stated he was unsure of what day this was but indicated it was between 1500 and
1600 hours. AHRNDT stated he observed smoke on two different occasions that day indicating
the smoke began thicker, then came down and became thicker again. He advised us it seemed to
him like it was closer to his residence than the AVERY property would be.
AHRNDT stated there was enough smoke coming from the fire that he was waiting for a fire
department to arrive. He stated due to the black smoke, he believed there were tires in the fire.
During a follow-up conversation that I had with WILLIAM AHRNDT at 1453 hours via
telephone, he indicated he believed the day he observed the smoke was Wednesday, 11102105.
He stated he had breakfast with a friend in Kellnersville that day and believes this, in fact, was
the day he observed the smoke.
Investigation continues.
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On1ll14l05 at approximately 1355 hours, Special Agent KIM SKORLINSKI and I (lnv.
BALDWIN) arived at the AVERY residence to return a shotgun belonging to MARIE AVERY.
I did fill out a Property Retum Receipt indicating I returned a l2-gauge pump action Mossberg to
EARL AVERY, which he did sign for, and the gun was turned over.
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On 11114105 at approximately 1430 hours, Special Agent KIM SKORLINSKI and I (Inv.
BALDWIN) did make contact with the owner of INTIMATE TREASURES & ADULT GIFTS.
We received information that there were some leg cuffs and handcuffs purchased at the store by
STEVEN AVERY and BARBARA JANDA. ROBIN did look through her computer and found
two separate transactions made on the 10/09/05 that included leg cuffs and handcuffs. ROBIN
did look at the schedule and leamed that it was an employee by the name of DAWN that had
been working that particular day. ROBIN said she would contact DAWN to see if she
remembered anything about that day or the people who purchased those items.
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When I arrived on scene at l5l2 hours, THOMAS PEARCE turned over to me a small tray that
consisted of three cigarette butts. THOMAS also gave me two envelopes, one in a plastic bag
and one out of a plastic bag. THOMAS stated the cigarette butts were in the developing room
and TERESA would have been the only person in that room that smoked. THOMAS stated the
brand that was in the tray was her brand that she smoked. THOMAS also stated the two
envelopes were possibly sealed by TERESA by licking them. He stated he was not sure that she
actually sealed the envelopes with her saliva but stated there was a good possibility. THOMAS
did state, though, that for certain those cigarette butts that were in the tin I recovered from
THOMAS were TERESA's and there is no other person he would have known of that would
have been in that room.
I then returned to the CALUMET COI-INTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT and entered into
evidence the box that was given to me with the cigarette butts inside and the two envelopes,
Property Tag No. 8736. I then entered them into the evidence room and turned the sheet in to the
evidence custodian.
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On Monday, llll4l05, at 7529 hours, Special Agent KEVIN HEIMERL and I (DEDERING) did
meet with the following individual at his residence regarding this matter:
MICHAEL M. OSMUNSON
DOB 09/08/86
5017 Nuclear Rd.
Mishicot, WI 54228
Telephone number: 920-7 55-21 50
Cell phone number: 920-973-0514
Employed at JINDRA PLUMBING & HEATING, INC. in Shoto
MICHAEL indicated the only time he had been at the AVERY property between i 0/31/05 and
llll4l05 was on Thursday, 11110105. He stated he and BOBBY were inside the DASSEY
garcge when STEVEN came over. MICHAEL indicated he was aware STEVEN was one of the
last people to see the missing girl and jokingly asked STEVEN if STEVEN had her (the missing
girl) in a closet. At this point, STEVEN asked MICHAEL if MICHAEL wanted to "help bury
the body" and they laughed about this together. MICHAEL stated he had just leamed about the
missing girl on the Tuesday prior to that. He once again indicated he thought STEVEN might
have been the last one to see the missing girl.
According to MICHAEL, STEVEN stated people go missing all the time and this girl may "have
left for Mexico."
MICHAEL stated that after conversation about the body, BARBARA JANDA came out of her
residence and she needed to go somewhere. STEVEN had BARBARA parked in and STEVEN
left after moving his vehicle and there was no further contact between MICHAEL and STEVEN.
I asked MICHAEL about his whereabouts on 10131105 and he stated he had taken his little
brother trick or treating in Two Rivers.
MICHAEL indicated he has never seen any fires at the AVERY residences, but stated BOBBY
mentioned the fact he had seen a big fire on Tuesday or Wednesday, l1l01rl05 or 11102105.
According to MICHAEL, BOBBY had told MICHAEL that STEVEN had thrown tires onto the
fire.
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On Monday,lll14l05, at 1637 hours, I (DEDERING) did make contact, after receiving a page,
from the following individual:
SHANNON P. SCHROEDER
DOB 08/07165
2327 CTHVV
Two Rivers,WI 54241
Telephone number: 920-553-1779
I asked him how he knew this was not on 10131105 and he stated he and WILLIAM had gone to
Green Bay on Monday. He stated the day he saw the smoke SHANNON was alone in the car.
He stated it was coming from a north/northwesterly direction from the residence. He stated it
was pretty calm that day and the smoke was going straight up. He suggested we check the
township for any sort of burning permits that would have been issued for that day.
SCHROEDER stated the smoke was very black when he observed it.
Investigation continues.
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Upon our arrival at the residence, RYAN HILLEGAS met us. RYAN stated he was a close
friend of TERESA HALBACH and he was temporarily staying at TERESA's residence. Special
Agent FASSBENDER informed him we were there to collect articles of clothing that would have
traces of DNA on it. RYAN stated we were welcome into the residence and he did show us
TERESA's bedroom.
Upon entering the bedroom, we were looking for a clothes hamper that would have dirty
clothing. RYAN pointed to a plastic bag and said TERESA would sometimes pack up her dirty
clothing in the plastic bag and take the dirty laundry over to her mom's residence for cleaning.
Upon looking through the plastic bag, we did locate several woman's panties in the bag.
Photographs were taken of the clothing.
At 1630 hours, I did collect a brown colored pair of woman's panties from the plastic bag.
At I did collect a light blue colored pair of woman's panties, which were located
1634 hours,
inside the dresser in TERESA's bedroom.
At 1635 hours, I did collect a black and pink striped pair of woman's panties from inside the
dresser of TERESA's bedroom.
At1636 hours, I did collect a red and black colored pair of woman's panties from the dresser in
TERESA's bedroom.
We noticed eyeglasses setting on the nightstand next to the bed and RYAN stated the glasses did
belong to TERESA. At 1638 hours, I did collect the glasses.
We asked RYAN if there were any other locations in the residence where TERESA would have
clothing and he led us to the bathroom. RYAN pointed to a clothes hamper and stated the
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clothes hamper did belong to TERESA and only her clothes would be in that hamper. RYAN
stated the clothes in the hamper were definitely dirty clothing.
At 1642 hours, I did collect a pink colored pair of woman's panties from the clothes hamper.
At 1643 hours, I did collect a black colored pair of woman's panties from the clothes hamper
from the bathroom.
At 1644 hours, I did collect a light colored purple pair of woman's panties from the clothes
hamper.
The items collected were transported back to the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT and placed in a secured locker in the evidence room.
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On llll4l05 at approximately 1645 hours, Special Agent KIM SKORLINSKI and I (Inv.
BALDWIN) met with BARBARA at the LIGHTHOUSE INN located in Two Rivers. We had
prior contact with BARBARA and she did agree to meet us there to speak about the case
further.
We asked BARBARA about the leg cuffs and handcuffs that were purchased in Manitowoc
and
she does recall being at that store in October, however, did not remember the date.
BARBARA
said she did buy a pair of pink cuffs and some lotion. We asked her if she could recall what
STEVEN had bought and she said she thought it was apair of leg cuffs and handcuffs, however,
did not know what color they were. I informed her a receipt from the store indicating a pair of
pink cuffs were purchased along with an animal print of some sort. BARBARA said she did
know hers were pink, however, did not know what type STEVEN bought.
We also asked BARBARA about the burnt car seat, maroon in color, in STEVEN,s pit, She said
there had been one setting by the fence on the east side of her residence, however, she did not
notice that it was gone. BARBARA said it was setting by a trailer near a van, however, she did
not know that it was gone. She said STEVEN was throwing a lot of stuff away lately and did not
know the items he was throwing out.
We asked BARBARA if she could recall the date of 10/3 1/05, Halloween, and her activities that
day. BARBARA said she had gone to work and had returned home at approximately 4:50 p.m.
or 5:00 p.m. BARBARA said BLAINE, BOBBY and BRENDAN were all home at 5:00 p.m.
She said her boyfriend, SCOTT TADYCH, had picked her up at about 5:15 p.m. and she went
with him to the hospital to see his mother who was in the hospital and had back surgery.
BARBARA said she returned home at about 7:45 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. and told BLAINE and
BRENDAN she was going over by SCOTT's house for a while.
BARBARA said when she retumed home at 8:00 p.m., she did see a rather large fire,
approximately three feet high, in the pit at STEVEN's garage. She said she tell there were
two people standing there; however, does not know who that was. BARBARA "o,lld
said SCOTT
made the comment, "Look how big the fire is." BARBARA stated she went into the house to tell
whoever was in the house at the time that she was going to be leaving for a short time.
We asked BARBARA about the gray Suzuki vehicle parked by the garage and she did not notice
the car was moved but knew that it had been setting on the east side of his garage for quite a
while.
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We asked BARBARA who the other person may have been that was standing out by the frre and
she said she did not know; however, BRENDAN did spend quite a bit of time with STEVEN
because he was the only child who did not have a lot of friends at the time and he did help
STEVEN with stuff around his house.
BARBARA could not recall the last time STEVEN had had a bonfire in the pit; however, the last
time she had a bonfire at her residence was back in2004. BARBARA said the last party they
had was for BOBBY; however, they did not have a bonfire at that time.
We asked BARBARA what STEVEN usually burns in the pit and she said usually tires;
however, she does not like that because the house gets black when he does that.
We asked BARBARA if she knew that BRENDAN had been driving her golf cart and she said,
no she did not know that; that he was not allowed to use the golf cart.
BARBARA stated when she returned home around midnight, she did not recall seeing the fire at
that time.
We asked BARBARA about an argument she had with STEVEN about selling her red van.
BARBARA said she had disagreed with him putting it in the AUTO TRADER because she did
not feel she needed to sell it, she was going to keep it for one of her sons who was getting their
driver license. BARBARA said she thought it was a waste of money to spend the $40.00 to run
an ad for the van. We asked BARBARA how much she thought the van was worth and she said
about $1,000.00.
We asked BARBARA if she has ever gotten into an argument with STEVEN particularly in the
last couple of days prior to l0l3ll05. She said she and STEVEN had gotten into an argument
and he had told her her kids are stupid and she needs to spend more time with them and be a
mom. BARBARA said STEVEN was very demanding and stating she was doing a bad job
raising her kids.
We asked BARBARA about her son, BLANE's, relationship with his boss, MICHAEL, and she
said it was fine, that he did a lot of landscaping for him and she thought he treated him like a son.
We informed BARBARA of our concerns with his boss and the way he was treating him and
touching him during an interview that one of the other agents had with BLAINE earlier.
We asked BARBARA who the biggest influence in her son's life would have been and she said
TOM JANDA was good with her kids and took them fishing a lot; however, he had moved out in
October.
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I asked BARBARA if STEVEN has ever come on to her sexually and she said just stupid
comments and pushing and shoving. BARBARA stated she did not feel there
was anything
unusual or out of the ordinary with her relationship with STEVEN.
I asked BARBARA who STEVEN said the handcuffs and leg cuffs were for and she said he told
her it was for JODI.
I asked BARBARA when JODI was due to be released from jail and she said March.
I asked BARBARA if she really thought those items were really going to be used for her and
she
said no.
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on l1l15105
at approximately 7:18 a.m., I (Deputy JEREMY HAWKINS
of the CALUMET
COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT) continuld logging in items
that were found at both
STEVEN AVERY's property and also TERESA HergAcH,s property.
o Property Tag No. 8435, fabric taken from upper couch back; from
l2g31Avery Rd.
o Property TagNo. 8433, fabric taken from couch front; from l2g32Avery
Rd.
o Property Tag No. 8434, fabric taken from couch cushion zipper
end; from l2g32Avery
Rd.
o Property Tag No. 8432, stain from couch cushion, top right front;
from lzg32Avery Rd.
o Property Tag No. 8431, fabric from couch cushion, top left by zipper;
from l2932Avery
Rd.
o Property Tag No. 8004, pair of leg irons, pair of handcuffs; located
in nightstand next to
desk at 12932 Avery Rd.
o Property TagNo. 6195, bedsheets with red stains; located in a main
bedroom at 1292g
Avery Rd.
o Property Tag No. 83 r 0, a paper tower with possible blood on
o Property TagNo. 8051, pink colored pair of woman's thong underwear;
from the
HALBACH residence
o Property Tag No. 8052, black colored pair of woman's panties; from the
HALBACH
residence
o Property TagNo. 8053, light purple colored pair of woman's panties; from
the
HALBACH residence
o Property Tag No. 7628, pillow with red stain
o Property TagNo.7627, swabs from possible bloodstain; located inside a
door leading to
the living room from the red trailer located on the AVERY property
o Property Tag No. 7623, swabs from possible blood spots; located in the
bathroom at the
red trailer on the AVERY property
o Property Tag No. 8479, rag with possible blood or rust stains; located at a quarry
south of
Avery Rd.
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On 1ll15i05, I (Inv. WIEGERT) received a copy of the lab findings from the WI STATE
CRIME LABORATORY. The following is a very brief synopsis of the laboratory findings.
It indicates the profile developed from Items A1 and Al4 are consistent with originating from
the same female individual.
The profile developed from Items ,\6, A8, Ag, A72,Bl, 83, 84, 85 and C is consistent with
originating from the same male individual.
The findings also indicated a keyboard search of the profile from Item 46 on 11/10/05 against
the WI DNA Data Bank resulted in a match to a DNA profile contained in the Convicted
Offender Index. New information regarding this convicted offender sample is as follows:
This is a brief synopsis of the laboratory findings. Please see the included report for more
detailed information.
Investigation continues.
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I checked the dispatch log records and found a phone call made
by STURM to the SALUMET
Co' SHERIFF'S DISPATCH CENTER on 1ll05/0 5 at 10:29 a.m. I copied
the conversation
onto a cassette tape and logged the tape into the sheriff s department
evidence room.
Captain Paul Rusch
Calumet Co. Sheriff s Dept.
PR/sk
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Deanna J. Hauschultz
DOB 08/14170
2338 Roosevelt Street
Two Rivers, WI 54241
Telephone number: 905-4407
Address Unknown
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the
for a while. I asked her what she meant by
them' She states she had heard ipnpse had been with
there when MARTINE z andRoBERTO
would have been there.
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It should be noted I did speak briefly with KIM SKORLINSKI from the DEpARTMENT OF
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION reference this matter. He and Inv. WENDY BALDWIN were
going to be doing follow-up reference this. Please see Inv. BALDWIN's and Special Agent
SKORLINSKI's report for more follow-up on this.
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Also put on the trailer were two bedsheets that contained burnt material. These two bedsheets
were in plastic bags bearing Property Tag Nos. 7947 and 7948.
A rear door off a Suzuki Samurai, bearing Properly Tag No. 641, and three firearms, a Marlin
Model 60 .22 caliber semi-automatic with serial number 04229713, bearing Property Tag No.
6909, a Glenfield Model 60 .22 caliber rifle with serial number 27323959, bearing Property Tag
No. 647, and a Connecticut Valley Atms Hawkin .50 caliber black powder rifle with serial
number 86373055, bearing Property Tag No. 648, were placed on the trailer to be transported to
the WI STATE CRIME LAB in Madison.
The32 items that were placed in the trailer to be sent down to the WI STATE CRIME LAB in
Madison were released to and signed off by Deputy JENNIFER J. BASS of the CALUMET
COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
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After helping unload the buckets from the trailer and leaving the two bags
and door in the trailer,
DCPUTY SCHULTZ ANd I TCtUMEd tO thE CALUMET COLINTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
There we unloaded the two bags and the door onto a cart and took it
down to the evidence room
where I secured the items in the evidence room and put the chain of
custody forms and locks
along with keys into Locker #1. I dropped the lockei key into the lockbox
for Deputy
HAWKINS to pick up later that evening.
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on 11122105, I (Deputy JEREMY HAWKINS) re-entered the two bedsheets of bumt material
and also the rear door off the Suzuki Samurai back into evidence. These three
items were
TEtUTNEd bY DEPUTY JENNIFER J. BASS frOM thE WI STATE
CRIME LAB iN MAdiSON. ThC
two bedsheets of burnt material were placed in the long-term secured area located in the
rear
garuge. The rear door of the Suzuki Samurai was placed downstairs in the evidence
intake room
behind the locked cage.
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At approximately 1750 hrs., I did stop at KAREN HALBACH's residence at the address of
w3559 CTH B. I informed KAREN that I was looking for a Canon Powershot 4310
box and a
Motorola flip-phone box. KAREN did go retrieve two boxes both for Canon cameras,
but not
for the Canon PowerShot ,A310. While there, I also met with KELLY HALBACH
who would
be TERESA's sister. KELLY was able to tell me that TERESA did own a Motorola
RAZR flip-
phone. I then asked KAREN for her permission to go to TERESA's apartment and search
for
any boxes or literature pertaining to the Canon camera and the Motorola phone.
KAREN did
give me permission to go through TERESA's items to try to locate the boxes or
any literature.
At approximately 1800 hrs., I did go to the address of W3637 CTH B, which would be TERESA
HALBACH's and SCOTT BLOEDORN's apartment. I was invited into the residence by
SCOTT BLOEDORN. Also at the residence was RYAN HILLEGAS. I informed both
SCOTT
and RYAN what I was looking for. RYAN at that time stated that he remembered seeing
a small
box from a Canon camera. I then observed RYAN go to the computer desk into a drawer.
Located in that drawer was a box for a Canon PowerShot 4310 digital camera. Both
RyAN and
SCOTT stated that they believed that that was the camera that TERESA would have used when
she went out on AUTO TRADER photoshoots. Both RYAN and SCOTT also told me that the
phone' which TERESA would use, would have been a Motorola RAZR flip-phone.
I then took
into custody the Canon PowerShot ,{310 digital camera box, which contained camera literature
but no camera. That box was taken back to the sheriff s dept. and placed under property
Tag No.
1836 and secured in the evidence room for safekeeping. It should te noted prior to putting tle
box in the evidence room, I did go through the books inside the box and was not able to loiate
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I asked to describe STEVEN and she said he was fun, outgoing and
she enjoyed hanging
out with him' She said STEVEN was close to BARBARA
and his dad ALLAN. She said she
hasn't seen him get angry that much, however, has only known
him the last two years he has
been out of prison. she said that she did go along with her
dad, EARL AVERY, to see STEVEN
in prison, however, didn't know him and never tatea to him.
I asked how many times she has been at STEVEN's trailer and she
said just two times
and one of the times was to celebrate when he got out of prison
on 09/11/03. She said she saw
him mainly in the auto salvage yard when she worked orrthe
cars. said that she would
tear off aluminum and tear down the motors and transmissions
and has been doing that for about
the last year and one-half.
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I questioned about those things and she said there was touching between
her and
STEVEN' She said on one occasion, he had come onto her in her
aunt,s basement. This was
BARBARA JANDA's residence, which is next door to STEVEN's
residence. She said that he
had touched her under her clothing and did later admit
that STEVEN had touched her underneath
her bra on her breast area as well as under her panties.
said she told BARBARA about
this and BARBARA said don't wony, it won'ihappen again,
but it did. She said STEVEN also
made comments about his sex life with JODI o.rvhut he-would
do to her and she thought that
was very sick' She did admit to being up north at the cabin
and having a marker fight, however,
nothing became of that. She said, after the incident at BARBARA's
h-ouse, she did get creeped
out by STEVEN and that is when she decided not to have contact
with him anymore. She said
her mom and dad would never allow STEVEN to stay ovemight
or be around'her alone.
I asked if STEVEN ever exposed himself to her and she said she would
hear him unzip his pants
and tell her to look, but she would look away. She said she
never saw his penis but assumed by
what he was doing that he_was exposing himself. She said STEVEN
also tried to put her hand
down his pants' She said he also did try to manipulate her into
having feelings for him and stated
it was okay with what he was doing with her, because they were not blood
related. She said he
would try to kiss her and touch her and she would push him away.
one time at BARBARA,s
house, STEVEN tried to kiss her by holding her head so she
couldn,t move when she was
sleeping over. She told BARBARA about this. She did admit
she had feelings for him because of what he was telling her.
at one point, she didn,t know if
She felt he was ,,brainwashing" her.
said after she would deny STEVEN, he woulJget very down
in the dumps and would
feel bad about what he did and the next day he would bJnormal
and would not try to come onto
her and then two days later, he would be completely opposite
again.
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I asked if she ever had sexual intercourse with STEVEN and did not answer the
question and wanted to leave the interview at that time.
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DATEOFACTIVITY: Wednesday,11116105
On I 1/l 6105 at approximately 1535 hours, Special Agent KIM SKORLINSKI of DCI and l
(BALDWIN) met with THOMAS H. KOCOUREK, DOB l2l05l45,at his place of employment
thE BIG BROTHERS BIG SISTERS OF MANITOWOC. THOMAS iNfOrMCd
US hE WAS thc
executive director for the BIG BROTHERS BIG SISTERS program for Manitowoc. THOIvIAS
said that he retired in 2001 as the sheriff for Manitowoc County. He said he had atotal
of 2t2
years in law enforcement.
We informed THOMAS the reason we needed to speak with him was because Special Agent
KIM SKORLINSKI had briefly talked to STEVEN AVERY the week prior to his arrest an6 had
informed KIM the only person he could think that would have frameO trim was the ex-sheriff of
MANITOWOC COLINTY. THOMAS said that he was never out at the AVERy residence
either on or near the date of 10/31/05. THOMAS said that even though he was curious whaLt
was
happening with this case, he never wanted anything to do with the case or any kind of contaLct
With MANITOWOC COUNTY oT CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTS.
THOMAS said he had worked the hours of nine to five on Monday,10131/05, which was
Halloween.
THOMAS did provide a printout of his activities that day, however, could not specify the times
that he had the appointments. THOMAS said in the evening hours after 5:00 p.m., he was home
with his wife and had gone to the nursing home to visit his wife's mother with the
granddaughter. THOMAS did remember taking pictures of his granddaughter in a ladybug
costume and had called his wife while we were there to confirm that.
I again asked THOMAS if he had any involvement with TERESA HALBACH or knew anything
about her. THOMAS said no, he did not know her, was not involved and did not want anytlhing
to do with this case.
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I was told that AVERY's package is a "total choice package" and he has receivers
in his office,
two in bedrooms and one in his living room.
I was advised the only pay per view TV program or movie that AVERy had ever
been billed for
was a movie called "Grunge" that was provided to him on04ll4l05 at3:19 p.m.
This movie was
apparently watched in the "office." I was advised that AVERY's bill is normally
$93.42 per
month and he has never been late with a payment.
The representative advised me there was no pay per view activity on 10/31/05.
She advised me
the pay per view adult channels are in the high 500s at 593,5g5,5gg,etc.
She stated the
channels that are in the lower 500 range are HBO, cinemax, etc. She advised
me she could not
really tell me what was being programmed on 10/31/05. I was adyised I could
send a request for
programming for 10131105 to DIRECTV's corporate office at2230 E. Imperial
Highway,
El Segundo, CA90245.
Investigation continues.
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At 142r hours, DONNA CONICK who is a contact person for ToyorA and also represents
NITB contacted me.
Investigation continues.
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TYPE OF ACTIVITy: Contact with paul Metz
on l1118/05 at 1543 hours, I did receive a telephone call from the following subject
regarding
this matter:
PAUL J.METZ
DOB 10t23t57
N1O9 CTH B
Kewaunee, WI 54216
Telephone number: 920-776-1753
METZ indicated he has property approximately four and one-half miles due
norlh of AVERy,S
AUTO SALVAGE yard. He indicated that on lll0ll05 at approximately 1730
hours, he had
been feeding cattle on his property. He stated he heard a loud "whoosh',
and indicated it
reminded him of incidents where he had poured gasoline or other highly
volatile substances on a
fire.
METZ stated he had been in contact with WPS that evening and there were no problems
with
power outages. He stated the wind was blowing out of the south
or southwest. He indicated his
property is located at the intersection of Jambo Creek and.Zander Rd.
He advised me he is
usually at the property should I choose to speak with him further.
Investigation continues.
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On 11120105 at 1342 hours, I (DEDERING) did meet with the following individual at
his
residence:
MARK E. HERRIED
DOB 12t15t79
2770 Mossy Oak, #89
Green Bay, WI
HERRIED had contacted me during the week of 1 1/13/05 indicating he had possibly been online
with TERESA HALBACH the night before she had disappeared and further indicated she had
mentioned going to the AVERY property.
HERRIED indicated the day before TERESA HALBACH went missing, he was in an online
chat (members.yahoo.com) with someone who he believed to be TERESA HALBACH.
He was
unsure of the date, but stated it was for certain the day before she went missing. He stated
he had
tried to contact her via Yahoo on one previous occasion. He stated he had looled up her profile
on members.yahoo.com and searched by location. He stated he found her information along
with a photo online. HERRIED stated he actually had done the chat with her the day before she
went missing in "Wisconsin chat room." He stated TERESA mentioned she enjoyed
photography and this is one of the items he used when he queried the members.yahoo.com
and
located her profile.
HERRIED stated the day before she went missing, he was in "Wisconsin chat room" and saw her
screen name as being active on the chat line. He stated he tried to text message her.
HERRIED stated he saw in her profile that she was from the Green Bay area. He text messaged
her and asked her if she was interested in meeting new people on the Internet. He stated they
chatted about photography, the outdoors and other things.
HERRIED stated the person he was chatting with, who he believed to be TERESA, mentioned
seeing STEVEN AVERY in file footage run on television regarding his multi-million dollar
lawsuit. She indicated she had been to STEVEN AVERY's several times before taking photos.
According to HERRIED, the person he was chatting with stated that friends of hers told her not
to hang around AVERYS, but she thought STEVEN was a',nice guy.', The individual
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He states that as the crow flies, his property is approximately 4.5 miles from AVERyS.
I asked him how he was certain that he had heard the "whoosh" on 11/01/05. He stated he was
positive it was 1ll01rl05 as it was the day after Halloween.
METZ indicated between 1700 and 1800 hours, all of his cattle were lined up along a fence line
at the southern edge of his property near the road. He stated the air was realiy heavy that day
and there was a breeze out of the south. He stated he heard a "whoosh" off in the distance and
after a few minutes, smelled an odor similar to burning wires. He stated he is self-employed
as a
commercial electrician and is familiar with buming wires. He stated while the odor was similar
to burning wires, it was something different than buming wires. He stated he began to detect the
odor very faintly approximately five minutes after the "whoosh." He stated his cattle were
bothered by the smell to the point of knocking down fences in order to try to get away. He stated
he did not see any actual smoke due to the fact it was dark or almost dark.
METZ stated he got on his four-wheeler in an attempt to get his cattle back under control. He
stated as he got close to Zander Rd. (traveling east from his property) the smell got stronger.
METZ stated he subsequently had a relative contact the Kewaunee nuclear plant but learned they
were not online at all that day. He stated WPS was also called within one hbur of the odor being
detected; however, they reported no outage in the area. He stated WPS was actually contacted
by his uncle, VERNON GULBRAND.
At 2:55 p.m., PAUL J . METZ, Nl09 CTH B, Kewaunee, WI 54216, DOB 1 0123157 , did provide
me with the following written statement:
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several minutes, I smelled something like wires burning. At this point, qll
the cattle ran
as one toward the northeast, going throughfences & inocking
dLwn/bnce posts (steet).
As we tried to round up the 34 cattle, the smell got stronger.
It took us about 45 minutes
to round up the cattle. No one in the area lost power. I got
home about I t pm and the
smell was still noticeable when I te.ft. I have dictated thi statement
to Inv. Declering. I
have reviewed the statement. It is accurate and true. My cattle
are very mellow, & not
easily spooked. "
I then paced off the road route from the METzproperty to the AVERY property.
I traveled .2 of
a mile east on Zander Rd. to the intersection of Jambo breed
Rd., then turnea south and
proceeded for four miles to STH 147 andJambo Creek.
I then tumed west and proceeded .3 of a
mile to the intersection of STH 147 and Averv Rd.
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I did place a telephone call to BONNIE HUBER and reached an answering machine.
Sometime in the evening of 11121105, I did receive a telephone call from the
following
individual:
BONNIE J. HUBER
DOB r2t30t6r
719 Milwaukee Street
Kiel, WI 53042
Telephone number: 920-894-4829
HUBER indicated she had served two weekends in the MANITOWOC COLTNTY
JAIL. She
indicated her contact with STACHOWSKI was very limited and she had never
become
STACHOWSKI's confidant in any way. She indicated she had no information to offer
regarding
this matter.
Shortly thereafter, I received a phone call from the following individual regarding
this matter:
RHONDA J. WORLEY
DOB 04t07t87
860 N.18th Street
Manitowoc,WI 54220
RHONDA indicated she was incarcerated in the MANITOWOC COLTNTY JAIL between
11104105 and Ill14l05. She stated she was housed with STACHOWSKI
and did speak with her
on occasion.
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AYOTTE was questioned about violence that had taken place in the
relationship between
AVERY and STACHOWSKI. AYOTTE indicated STACHOWSKI never
came out and said,,he
beat me" but STACHOWSKI did indicate that he "hit me" several
times. AYOTTE indicated
according to STACHOWSKI' jealousy usually would trigger these
events. AyoTTE indicated
STACHOWSKI tOId hcr STEVEN AVERY WOUId gEt MI"d At STACHOWSKI
WhCN
STACHOWSKI talked to STEVEN',s brothers. According to AyoTTE,
sTACHowsKI
admitted to getting a black and blue eye on one occasion from STEVEN;
however,
srACHowsKI did provide no details to AyorrE about this.
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AYorrE indicated srACHowsKI did tell her STEVEN choked her on one occasion.
AYorrE was unable to provide any further detail about
this. AyorrE further indicated she
had no idea as to what this was triggered
by.
l::rnx:r"1";hi#ffi
STACHOWSKI ha #;rirff .";,#*i4?il+;f#:{{:J*l':?;"
wanted to talk to the news agencies, however, ,,STEVE
won,t let me.,, AyorrE thinks,
"STEVE needs the attention." AYOTTE further
indicated she believes STACHoWSKI wants to
see herself on TV' She stated she does
not believe this is because sTACHowSKI has anything
to say about the matter.
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On Tuesday,11129105, at 1030 hours, DCI Special Agent DEB STRAUSS and I (DEDERING)
did interview the following individual regarding this matter:
JESSICA A. MILLER
DOB 05t30t77
1207 S.1Sth Street
Manitowoc,WI 54220
MILLER indicated she had just been incarcerated on several OWI and OWL related charges that
she had not paid fines for. She stated she knows JODI STACHO\\,SKI from the last
time the
two were housed at the MANITOWOC COTINTY JAIL approximately six months ago.
MILLER indicated she was released in March, 2005, and STACHOWSKI was at thelail at that
time. MILLER indicated STACHOWSKI was seeing STEVEN AVERY during that time.
MILLER stated JODI STACHOWSKI "neveT said anything mean about him (STEVEN)', and
"always said good things."
MILLER stated STACHOWSKI still denies STEVEN doing any.rhi.ng bad to STACHOWSKI.
MILLER went on to indicate that at the time they were out shopping for car parts, STEVEN
loaned JENNIFER BROOKS between $100.00 and $150.00 foi something oiher than car parts.
MILLER thought this was unusual as JENNIFER BROOKS did not know STEVEN AVERY
before this time.
MILLER went on to indicate she has known STEVEN AVERY since she was little. MILLER
went on to indicate that her uncle hangs out with CANDY, EARL and STEVEN AVERy.
MILLER stated she thinks she went to high school with CARLA AVERY, however, she is not
sure.
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MILLER went on to indicate she has never seen any violent tendencies from STEVEN but she
has heard that STEVEN was in front of a detective's wife in the detective's yard without any
clothes. MILLER indicated she has only been in jail this time since Saturday, 1 1126105.
MILLER indicated she and JODI STACHOWSKI had some communications while they were
both out ofjail but this would consist of an occasional conversation by phone. She states they
are not very close and never went out together.
Investigation continues.
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On Tuesday,11129105, at 1055 hours, DCI Special Agent DEB STRAUSS and I (DEDERING)
did interview the following individual conceming this matter:
BRENDA E. NEWBY
DOB 02108169
1123 S. 1lth Street
Manitowoc,WI 54220
NEWBY indicates she had just been incarcerated in the MANITOWOC COLINTY JAIL on
lll25l05. She states she is in jail for a child support comrnitment until May of 2006. She states
JODI STACHOWSKI swears up and down that STEVEN AVERY is innocent. She states
STACHOWSKI has told her AVERY has an aversion to trlood and further stated
STACHOWSKI has told NEWBY that STEVEN AVERY does not want to have sex with
STACHOWSKI when STACHOWSKI has her period.
According to NEWBY, STACHOWSKI has made the statement, "If anyone had done this, it
would have been EARL." NEWBY further indicated STI\CHWOSKI had mentioned that he
(EARL) is sick like that."
According to NEWBY, STACHOWSKI made the statement, "I saw him that week, I talked with
him that week, I know he didn't do it."
NEWBY indicated STACHOWSKI made the statement rr;garding EARL AVERY on three
separate occasions, usually after she sees the news on television or reads the newspaper.
NEWBY indicated she does not know STACHOWSKI arrd is not familiar really with her last
name, but she does look familiar to her. It should be noted NEWBY always referred to
STACHOWSKI as "JODI."
NEWBY indicates STACHOWSKI is real quiet and just sits on her bunk and listens to music.
NEWBY indicates STACHOWSKI has never made any mention of what STEVEN is like when
he is angry, to her knowledge.
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On Tuesday, lll29l05, at ll33 hours, DCI Special Agent DEB STRAUSS and I (DEDERING)
did interview the following individual at the MANITOWOC COLTNTY JAIL:
TONI M. SCIORTINO
DOB 10/20180
732 5.21't Street
Manitowoc,WI 54220
SCIORTINO states she came into jail on the date STEVEN AVERY was arrested and she
believes JODI STACHOWSKI does not talk too much about STEVEN AVERY's incarceration
because "it hurts." SCIORTINO states she never actually met STEVEN AVERY. She states
SCIORTINO's mother did take the vehicle SCIORTINO's mother owned to the AVERY'S
AUTO SALVAGE facilitv at one time.
SCIORTINO states she cannot give any observations as to how STACHOWSKI is reacting due
to the fact she did not see STACHOWSKI before STEVEN was arrested.
SCIORTINO indicates STACHOWSKI is not close to anyone in the jail and further indicated
STACHOWSKI "may be talking, but not to me."
Investigation continues.
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On Tuesday,lll29l05, at 7145 hours, DCI Special Agent DEB STRAUSS and I (DEDERING)
did interview the following individual concerning this matter:
MICHELLE L. SMITS
DOB 09n8t72
2620 S.9th Street
Sheboygan, WI 53081
MICHELLE SMITS stated she has been incarcerated at the MANITOWOC COltl{TY JAIL
since 11122105. She stated she was incarcerated in March,2005 with JODI STACHOWSKI and
does not get along well with her. She stated in March, 2005, she and JODI STACHOWSKI were
housed together during a 90-day period.
SMITS indicated a friend of hers named SLTNSHINE STYZELSKI (ph) is currently housed at
the SHEBOYGAN COUNTY JAIL and SMITS indicated SLINSHINE knows STEVEN AVERY
and AVERY used to babysit SUNSHINE.
SMITS indicated STACHOWSKI does not say any.thing to her, just watches the news on TV.
SMITS indicated STACHOWSKI does not have any reaction when she sees AVERY on the TV.
SMITS indicated an inmate named JESSICA MILLER stated STEVEN was going to throw a
blow dryer into the bathtub with JODI in it.
SMITS indicated that back in March, 2005, STACHOWSKI cried a lot and argued a lot with
STEVEN.
SMITS indicated there was no mention by STACHOWSKI of STEVEN being physical with her.
Investigation continues.
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On Thursday,lll29l05, at 1220 hours, DCI Special Agent DEB STRAUSS and I (DEDERING)
did interview JODI STACHOWSKI, previously mentioned in this report. For details concerning
this interview, please see the report of Special Agent STRAUSS.
Investigation continues.
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On Wednesday, 11130105, at 1058 hours, Inv. STEIER and I (DEDERING) did interview the
following individual at DR. DANIELS EYECARE, located at 700 E. Magnolia, Manitowoc, WI
54220:
JULIE A. TISLER
DOB 061r4163
4712Preston Rd.
Whitelaw, WI 54247
Telephone number: 920-7 32-3810
Information had been developed that EARL AVERY had had an appointment of some sort at
DR. DANIELS EYECARE and we did speak with JULIE who is an employee of DR. DANIELS
EYECARE. She stated EARL picked up a second pair of glasses on Monday, 10/31/05, between
1700 hours and 1800 hours. She stated this was a second pair of glasses and he had already
picked up his first pair. She stated the fitting for EARL took approximately five minutes. She
stated she is certain it was 10131105 as all the other employees were taking their kids trick-or-
treating in Manitowoc and JULIE volunteered to stay until closing, which was 1900 hours.
JULIE stated she had no real conversation with EARL. She did, however, notice that EARL was
really dirty. He also remarked about his appearance.
JULIE indicated a co-worker, STACY OSWALD (ph) had left approximately 10 minutes after
EARL had his fitting and had left. JULIE stated the Green Bay office of DR. DANIELS
EYECARE has the timecards for 10/31/05.
It should be noted I subsequently requested that Inv. BALDWN who was in the Green Bay area
on 11/30/05 go to DR. DANIELS EYECARE and retrieve copies of the timecards, which she
did. The timecards showed that STACY OSWALD checked out of work on 10/31105 a|1742
hours.
JULIE indicated there is no surveillance at the eyecare facility in the mall and she is uncertain as
to whether there would be any sort of surveillance camera in the mall. (It should be noted I
subsequently confirmed there was no surveillance equipment available at the mall.)
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I asked JULIE if Two Rivers had trick-or-treatine on 10/31i05 and she indicated she was not
sufe.
JULIE indicated STACY had dealt with EARL for his first appointment (approximately
l0ll9l05) and she was unsure as to how EARL appeared at that time.
The interview with JULIE TISLER terminated at lll4 hours. The items referred to can be found
in the exhibits section.
Investigation continues.
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On Wednesday, 11130105, at 7339 hours, Inv. STEIER and I (DEDERING) did make contact
with EARL AVERY, previously mentioned in this report at AVERY'S AUTO SALVAGE,
Avery Rd., Mishicot, WI.
We asked EARL how sure he was that he had been rabbit hunting on Monday,70131/05. He
stated he was "pretty sure." He stated after hunting, he went home and did not leave.
We asked EARL about any recollections he had about picking up a second set of glasses in Two
Rivers. He stated he was unsure.
We then refreshed his memory as to what DR. DANIELS EYECARE had stated and he stated he
thought he might have some information regarding this in his vehicle. EARL did check his
vehicle and was unable to locate anything.
EARL stated he was positive he picked up the second set of glasses himself.
We then went back to what day he and ROBERT FABIAN were rabbit hunting. He stated,
"BOBBY said Monday, but I thought it was Wednesday."
EARL stated as he recalled the day of rabbit hunting, ROBERT arrived at approximately 1530
hours or maybe a little before or after. EARL stated he believed ROBERT left after dark and he
stated it grew dark between 5:00 p.m. and 5:15 p.m. EARL stated he recalled both he and
ROBERT left at the same time.
EARL was asked when he first saw ROBERT. He stated the first time he saw ROBERT on the
property on 10/31/05, ROBERT was seated in his truck.
I asked EARL how long it would take to get to the eyecare place in the mall. He stated he
thought it was between 20 and 25 minutes. EARL stated he believed CANDY may have ridden
along with him when he went to pick his glasses up. He thought, perhaps, his wife, CANDY,
and his daughters went along and possibly went to YOUNKERS. (It should be noted that in a
follow-up conversation with EARL, he advised Inv. STEIER that his wife and children went
trick-or-treating that night and were not with him during his trip to DR. DANIELS EYECARE.)
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EARL advised me that during the time he and ROBERT FABIAN were rabbit hunting, EARL
observed STEVEN and noticed STEVEN seemed to be in a daze. He said STEVEN was
standing straight up and down and looking at the ground.
EARL stated he was positive the day he went rabbit hunting was the same day he picked up his
glasses.
EARL advised us he was pretty sure the Suzuki that is in STEVEN's garage was outside
STEVEN's garage prior to this incident taking place. He stated he seems to recall the last time
the Suzuki was outside the garage was on Monday, 10/31/05.
We asked EARL if he remembered meeting anyone in the driveway on his way out of the auto
salvage and he stated he did not recall meeting anyone.
He stated he saw one of the DASSEY boys wearing an orange sweatshirl walking towards
STEVEN's garuge or the pit area. He could not recall what day.
EARL indicated he did not notice anv smoke near STEVEN's residence.
EARL stated he thought his younger daughters went trick-or-treating on Saturday or Sunday in
the Manitowoc/Two Rivers area with his older daughter MARIE. It should be noted, as
previously mentioned, this was retracted in a subsequent conversation with Inv. STEIER.
I did travel STH 147 from Avery Rd. into Two Rivers and to the Magnolia Drive address where
DR. DANIELS EYECARE is located. It took me 20 minutes and26 seconds to travel the route.
This was accounting for light traffic and operating within the speed limit.
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On 12106105 at approximately 1518 hours, I (Deputy RICK RIEMER, Unit 832, of the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT) was in the jury room off the courtroom
where STEVEN AVERY was having his preliminary hearing. At this point, I was in the room
approximately five to six feet away from STEVEN AVERY. There were two Manitowoc
deputies in the hallway who were assigned as bailiffs. They were Deputy M. RIDDLE and
Deputy S. TACKES. They were situated in the hallway leading up to the jury room. Mr.
AVERY had stated to me, "It took them to the third time to find the key." Not understanding
what Mr. AVERY had said, I said "Hmm?" Mr. AVERY again said, "It took them to the third
time to find the key." I did not ask Mr. AVERY any type of questions and did not interrogate
him in any way knowing that he had already invoked his Miranda privileges. The only questions
I asked AVERY throughout the day were about his welfare, basically if he was wann enough,
about bathroom breaks, about his personal safety, etc. Once again, Mr. AVERY was not
questioned in any way at all.
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It should be noted WILLIAM indicated he, in fact, had found the license plates at approximately
9:15 a.m. on 1 1/08/05. It should also be noted there was a crime scene log, which indicated the
time that Mr. BRANDES had found the registration plates as well. WILLIAM stated he was
assigned to search the salvage yard with several other firefighters and STATE PATROL officers.
According to WILLIAM, while searching a car, he noticed some license plates that had been
folded twice and were lying on the folded down backseat of an older station wagon. He
indicated the license plates were towards the passenger side of the vehicle on the folded down
seats. WILLIAM reached through the driver's side rear window and picked up the license
plates. He indicated he was wearing gloves at that time. WILLIAM unfolded them so he could
read the numbers on the plate. WILLIAM then asked a state trooper to repeat the registration
number. WILLIAM stated the registration we were looking for matched the plates he had found.
At that time, WILLIAM stated the state trooper radioed the command post to inform them of
what he had found. State Trooper CINDY PAINE (ph) would have stood by with the license
plates.
At approximately 12:03 p.m., the WISCONSIN STATE CRIME MOBILE LABORATORY unit
did arrive back at the area where the license plates were processed and collected.
I did request WILLIAM go to the BRILLION POLICE DEPARTMENT and meet with Officer
DAVE JAEGER and fill out a written statement form. It should be noted that statement form
will be included with this report.
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Investigation continues.
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On Friday, 12109105, a decision was made to apply for a Search Warrant of the STEVEN
AVERY residence located at 12932 Avery Rd., Town of Gibson, Manitowoc County, WI.
The purpose of the application for the Search Warrant was to seize a wooden bookcase/cabinet
last seen in the bedroom occupied by STEVEN AVERY.
The Search Warrant adequately describes the residence to be searched as well as the item to be
seized, namely the wooden cabinet/bookcase.
The Search Warrant was signed by the Honorable Judge THOMAS GRITTON and was received
by me (Inv. DEDERING of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF',S DEPT.) at 1:30 p.m. on 12109105.
For details concerning the execution of the warrant, please see the detailed report of Sgt.
TYSON. Investigation continues.
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Upon my arrival at the sheriff s department at approximately 1420 hours, I did meet with Special
Agent FASSBENDER and Special Agent MATTHEW JOY.
While en route to the AVERY property, we did stop and meet with Special Agent MICHAEL
SASSE, who also works for the STATE OF WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATIONS. Special Agent SASSE did follow us onto the AVERY property.
At approximately 1610 hours, we did arrive at the AVER)a property and did park at the salvage
yard office. We did locate CHARLES AVERY walking near the building and he did come over
to our location. Special Agent FASSBENDER spoke with CHARLES AVERY and a key to
STEVEN's residence was obtained from the DOLORES AVERY.
We arrived at STEVEN's residence at 1620 hours. Special Agent FASSBENDER could not
open the main entrance to STEVEN AVERY's residence with the key provided. We then
walked over to the service door located at the south end of'the trailer and found the key did open
that door. At 1623 hours, we entered the residence and proceeded to the bedroom. Special
Agent FASSBENDER did request Special Agent JOY and Special Agent SASSE to clear the
residence to make sure there was no one else inside the residence. After the residence was
cleared, Special Agents JOY and SASSE did come into STEVEN AVERY's bedroom where
Special Agent FASSBENDER and I were located.
I did take several photographs of the wooden cabinet,bookcase. Special Agent FASSBENDER
informed me the backside of the wooden cabinet/bookcase was pulled away from the nails,
which did secure it to the back of the wooden cabinet,bookcase. I did take several photographs
of the side view of the wooden cabinet/bookcase.
While looking at the wooden cabinet/bookcase, we could see there were other items within the
wooden cabinet/bookcase. I did ask Special Agent FASSBENDER if the books and other
contents were to be collected with the wooden cabinet/bookcase and Special Agent
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FASSBENDER stated he would exit the residence to make a phone call to the district attorney to
clarify if we were to collect just the wooden cabinet/bookcase or all the contents within the
wooden cabinet,bookcase.
Special Agent FASSBENDER then retumed into the residence and stated we were to collect the
wooden cabinet,&ookcase and all contents that were inside the wooden cabinet/bookcase.
At 1634 hours, Special Agent FASSBENDER did pick up the wooden cabinet/bookcase and did
carry the wooden cabinet/bookcase out of the residence and did place the wooden
cabinet/bookcase in the backseat of his car.
At 1635 hours, we did exit STEVEN AVERY's residence and did lock the door.
We drove back up to the office area and did speak with CHARLES AVERY. Special Agent
FASSBENDER and I did follow CHARLES to DOLORES's residence at which time CHARLES
did tum the key over to DOLORES AVERY. Special Agent FASSBENDER also provided
CHARLES AVERY a copy of the Search Warrant, at CHARLES AVERY's request.
We left the AVERY property at 1647 hours en route to the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT. Special Agent FASSBENDER and I arrived at the sheriffls department and
met with Inv. JOHN DEDERING who did have the keys to the evidence room. The wooden
cabinet/bookcase was carried down into the evidence room and the proper paperwork was filled
out. The wooden cabinet/bookcase and its contents were locked in a secured locker within the
evidence room.
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On Friday, 12109105,I (Inv. DEDERING of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT.), did apply
for a Subpoena requesting the make, model and serial number of the telephone issued to
TERESA HALBACH by CINGULAR WIRELESS. The Subpoena was signed by the
Honorable Judge THOMAS GRITTON, and a facsimile transmittal was sent to CINGULAR
WIRELESS. The transmittal consisted of a face sheet and a copy of the original Subpoena.
The facsimile transmittal report indicates that the facsimile was successfully sent on Friday,
12109105, at 1554 hours.
Investigation continues.
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On Wednesday, 11130105,I (Inv. GARY STEIER), along with Inv. JOHN DEDERING of the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, did interview ROBERT FABIAN at
approximately 1 1:35 a.m. at his residence of 941 Main Street, Mishicot, WI. FABIAN again
remembered being at the AVERY salvage yard in which he recalls seeing STEVEN coming from
the green house. ROBERT indicates he had pulled into the yard to meet with EARL AVERY to
go rabbit hunting. ROBERT stated since the last time he had talked to the investigators, he
remembered being inside his truck and pulling up with his truck when he had talked to
CHARLES AVERY in the yard by the shop. ROBERT indicated he saw STEVEN AVERY
coming from the green house. He had pulled up in his truck to talk to CHARLES and had
observed CHARLES coming out of the big blue garage by the big doors. He had asked
CHARLES where EARL was. CHARLES told him EARL was on the loader. ROBERT stated
CHARLES then asked STEVEN if the photographer had shown up. He remembers STEVEN
commenting she had not shown up and he pulled away with his truck to meet with EARL.
Investigators asked ROBERT FABIAN what day he had gone rabbit hunting with EARL
AVERY at the salvage yard. ROBERT FABIAN said he thought initially, he was not sure, until
he had checked with his wife, CINDY, and she had told him it was Monday. CINDY states he
had gone the night of trick-or-treating at Two Rivers. Inv. DEDERING did check with the City
of Two Rivers and did verify the fact that trick-or-treating in Two Rivers was on Monday,
10t3U0s.
ROBERT recalls the previous Saturday, 10129105, he was at a wedding in Spencer. He indicated
the wedding was CINDY's cousin, JODI (ph). He indicated on Sunday, l0/30/05, his kids went
trick-or-treating in Mishicot. On l0/31/05, he indicated his kids went to Two Rivers trick-or-
treating between the hours of 5:30 p.m. and 7:30 p.m.
ROBERT again indicated initially after hearing the news of HALBACH's vehicle being found in
the AVERY salvage yard and TERESA HALBACH last seen on 10/31105 at the AVERY
salvage yard, he thought back to when he had been at the salvage yard himself. He recalls he
had been rabbit hunting with EARL AVERY. ROBERT FABIAN initially was not sure what
day it was. He thought it may have been on a different night, perhaps, Tuesday or Wednesday.
ROBERT FABIAN indicated that on Monday, 10131105, he went to bed around 9:00 a.m. or
10:00 a.m. ROBERT FABIAN states he works from midnight to 7:00 a.m. for MANITOWOC
CRANE COMPANY as a welder, Sunday night through Friday morning. He stated around 2:00
p.m. or 3:00 p.m. on 10/31/05, he may have called EARL AVERY and then got dressed and
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went to the auto salvage yard. ROBERT FABIAN states he is 100% certain he went to rabbit
hunt with EARL AVERY the night of trick-or-treating. ROBERT FABIAN believes he returns
home approximately 5:30 p.m. on Monday, l0l3Il05. ROBERT FABIAN again indicates he did
not see a fire in the bum pit area located next to the STEVEN AVERY residence. ROBERT
FABIAN does indicate he had seen smoke coming out of a bum barrel when ROBERT FABIAN
and EARL AVERY had driven by STEVEN's residence on the golf cart. ROBERT FABIAN
said the buming garbage smelled like plastic to him coming from the bum barrel outside of
STEVEN AVERY's residence. ROBERT FABIAN said he would have stopped it if he would
have seen TERESA HALBACH being harmed or in danger. ROBERT said it also worried him
to think that he was there and TERESA HALBACH was there earlier in the day. ROBERT
indicated that on Tuesday, lll01l05, he had come home from work and went straight to bed.
Again, ROBERT FABIAN thought maybe he had been at the AVERY residence on Tuesday and
went hunting with EARL but had talked to his wife who told him it was Monday.
Wednesday,17102105, ROBERT FABIAN could not remember where he was that day.
Thursday, lll33l5s,after coming home from work, ROBERT FABIAN stated uro.,nd 8:00 a.m.,
he went to get a dog coop. ROBERT FABIAN said he had called about a dog in Wrightstown
and then left a message on the machine about picking up the dog.
Around 8:00 a.m. on Thursday,lll03l05, ROBERT FABIAN states he did observe a green jeep
backed all the way up at a parking area on STH 147 by the river. ROBERT described this area
as a turnaround. ROBERT recalls seeing this jeep at 8:00 a.m. because he had seen a male
subject talking on TV about a green jeep being in the area.
ROBERT indicates that on Friday, lll04l05, he had called EARL for an alternator and went
hunting with his nephew, MICHAEL.
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o Item BJ - soil sample from south end of bum pit under Tag#D7939
o Item BK - soil sample from south end of burn pit under Tag#D7940
o Item BL - soil sample from south end of bum pit under Tag#D794I
The findings indicate there were no common ignitable liquids found in items BJ, BK or BL. The
report states these results do not preclude the possibility that an ignitable liquid may have been
present at an earlier time.
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On12119105, I (Inv. MARK WIEGERT of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF's DEPT.) received
several evidentiary items from the WI STATE CRIME LABORATORY:
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Investigation continues.
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Investigation continues.
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Charlene M. Edwards
DOB 04t09t69
1905 Franklin Street
Manitowoco WI 54220
Telephone number: 681-8374
On l1l2ll05 at approximately 1555 hours, Special Agent KIM SKORLINSKI and I (Inv.
I asked CHARLENE if she ever had heard of TERESA HALBACH or has ever had a social
relationship with any of the AVERYS and she said, no she did not have any connection to the
AVERY family or TERESA HALBACH.
I asked CHARLENE if she would mind if we talked to her son, JOSHUA, to verify ANDRES
was with him in the afternoon of Halloween. She said that would not be a problem and she
would go and get him for us to speak with him.
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Dawn L. Hauschultz
DOB 05t07t71
82930 CTH BB
KewauneerWl 54216
Telephone number: 242-9007
On l1130/05 at approximately 10:30 a.m., Special Agent KIM SKORLINSKI and I (Inv.
BALDWIN) made contact with DAWN L. HAUSCHULTZ and her boyfriend at her residence of
82930 CTH BB in Kewaunee. Special Agent SKORLINSKI did interview DAWN's boyfriend,
ROBERTO. See Special Agent SKORLINSKI's report for details.
I informed DAWN that I knew she did talk to Special Agent SKORLINSKI about our contact
with them; however, we needed to talk to them in person about some of the accusations being
said about them. I again informed DAWN the reason why we wanted to speak with them is
because several people had heard that DAWN and her boyfriend, ROBERTO, were at the
AVERY residence on Halloween having a bonfire with TERESA HALBACH. DAWN went on
to state she was here at her residence all day with her boyfriend, ROBERTO, and her son, PAT.
She said PAT had surgery on his foot and he was staying at home and had recently gotten home
from the hospital. She said between 4:30 p.m. and 7:30 p.m., she took her daughter, AMANDA,
and son, LEVI, to Two Rivers to go trick-or-treating. ROBERTO had stayed at home with her
son, PAT, while she was gone as well as the rest of the evening.
I asked DAWN about her relationship or if she knew the AVERY family at all. She said that she
only knows them just as a customer and has little conversation with any of them. She said she
and her boyfriend, ROBERTO, have been out there four to five times in the past year looking for
parts for their vehicles. She said the last time they were out there was to find a latch for the
glove box for her vehicle, which would have been about one week prior to Halloween. DAWN
said ROBERTO was along with her when they went to pick up that piece and had briefly talked
to CHARLES in the shop. DAWN said the piece for the glove box had cost them $5.00, which
they had paid for in cash.
DAWN described CHARLES as being scary looking and did not feel very comfortable around
him. She said they have never been to aparty at the AVERY residence nor has she or her
boyfriend, ROBERTO, ever been friends with that family. DAWN said she has seen STEVEN
AVERY on TV before but never knew him. They had been doing business there for about two
years.
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DAWN could not understand why somebody would bring up their names in this case because
she does not know the AVERYS other than being a customer and has never known TERESA
HALBACH.
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On 11/30/05 at approximately 1 1:30 a.m., I (Inv. BALDWIN) made contact at GREEN BAy
POLICE DEPARTMENT to obtain a letter that was placed into their evidence. Inv. WIEGERT
had requested that I pick up a letter that was found at the GREEN BAY POST OFFICE that had
addressed the AVERY case. I did make contact with a GREEN BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT
officer; and at approximately 11 '.45 a.m.,I did take that letter into custody and later placed it into
evidence at the sheriff s department.
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Tony Mallero
850 Greenbrier Circle, #K
Chesapeake, VA 23320
Telephone number: 757-579-7154
(Assistant Manager of Cannon ITS)
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Kathy D. Willeford
DOB 09/30/68
N3126 Deercreek Ct.
Waldo, WI 53093
Telephone number: 920-SZB-775i
I asked KATHY if she had ever been to the AVERY residence in her job duties as a
photographer for AUTO TRADER magazine. KATHY told me she had been
to STEVEN
AVERY's residence on one occasion. KATHY states she believes it was on the date of
01125105. She states she believes it was a Tuesday because that was the normal
day she would
go out and take photos. According to KATHY, she received a "lead sheet', from
AUTO
TRADER magazine. KATHY states those are the sheets they get when they are to go out and
take photos. KATHY states she went to the STEVEN AVERY residence on the morning
of
01125105 sometime between 1 1:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m. She stated when she arrived,
she observed
an Olds Cutlass, which was parked outside. She states when she drove up, she noticed
the
vehicle and then got out of her car and walked up to the vehicle to verify it was the one that
she
was to take the photo of. She states she remembers driving to the residence and that it was
very
desolate there and she was somewhat concemed about that.
When KATHY drove up to the AVERY residence, she stated there was nobody outside.
After
verifying the car, KATHY walked up to the STEVEN AVERY residence and knocked on the
door. At that time, STEVEN stuck his head out and stated he would be right outside. After
several minutes, KATHY indicates STEVEN walks out of the trailer and she takes the picture.
KATHY stated she then asked STEVEN about the narrative he was suppose to write up.
STEVEN told KATHY he forgot to write it up at which time he went inside the trailer. KATHy
stated atthat time she walked up onto the porch and waited for STEVEN to come back out with
the narrative. KATHY stated it seemed to take an unusual amount of time for him to write up
the short narrative, which was suppose to go along with the picture. She stated it was very cold
outside and, at one point, STEVEN poked his head out the door and stated if she was cold. she
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could come inside his trailer. KATHY states she knows they have a policy
against going into
people's houses, so she went back and sat in her vehicle.
KATHY told me it took a good ten minutes for STEVEN to come back out of the
trailer. When
he came back out, he walked over to her vehicle and handed her the narrative
to go along with
the pictures she had taken. According to KATHY, STEVEN said to her
if this works out, that
his sister has a car for sale and he may do the same thing as in putting it in the
AUTO TRADER.
KATHY states prior to leaving, STEVEN asked KATHY how he could contact her if he needed
to' KATHY told STEVEN he could call the main office number like he had previously done.
I asked KATHY if at any time STEVEN did anything out of the ordinary or suspicious.
KATHy
stated he (meaning STEVEN) did not; however, she stated, "He creeped me
out." I asked
KATHY what she meant by that to which KATHY stated it was justihe way STEVEN was
staring at her. KATHY also stated when she pulled up, the dogs were barking
very loudly so
STEVEN would have had to have known that somebody *ar outside the trailer; however. he
never came out until she went and knocked on his door.
KATHY stated that was the only time she had been to the AVERY residence and then she quit
working for the AUTO TRADER in April.
According to KATHY, when she was taking pictures for AUTO TRADER, she was
using a
Nikon Coolpix (ph) 2100 camera. KATHY states after she quit working for AUTo tRabBR,
TERESA had come to her residence, she believes in the
-on1h of May,ind picked up her
camera for the AUTO TRADER. According to KATHY, TERESA was already
working for
AUTO TRADER before KATHY quit working there. I asked her how she knew this to which
KATHY stated she had seen her name on a roster of employees.
In speaking with I(ATHY, she stated when she talked with TERESA, TERESA had
stated she
had to pick her camera up and had mentioned something about the AUTO TRADER
having a
storage facility. TERESA had told KATHY that every once in a while AUTO TRADER
had her
go to the storage facility.
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On 01/06/06 at approximately 1330 hrs., I (Inv. WIEGERT of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF,s
DEPT.) met with FBI Agent GERALD E. MULLEN. My purpose for meeting with GERALD
was to tum over the remnants of the cell phone and camera, which had been recovered from the
burn barrel on the STEVEN AVERY property. I had been provided with a key to a locked
storage unit in the CALUMET COLINTY EVIDENCE ROOM by Sheriff PAGEL on 01/05/06.
Sheriff PAGEL had received that key on the same date earlier that moming from Evidence
Custodian JEREMY HAWKINS. I took custody of that key and it remained in my possession
until the date of 01i06106 when I went down and retrieved the box containing the cell phone and
camera remnants. I did take into possession Property Tag No. 8316, which was the box
containing those items. That box was turned over to FBI Agent MULLEN for transfer to the
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION LAB for analysis.
Investigation continues.
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Penny A. Beerntsen
DOB 02t08t49
1804 Alta Visra Ct.
Naperville,IL 60563
Telephone number: 630-579-1970
PENNY stated she is not related in any way to the HALBACH family and was not
familiar with
them until she heard about the recent case regarding TERESA HALBACH.
I asked PENNY if she had ever spoken with any of the HALBACH family. pENNy stated
she
had never spoken with any of the HALBACHS. PENNY also stated to
me she had never done
any business with the AUTO TRADER magazine.
I then thanked PENNY for her cooperation and ended the phone conversation with her.
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She stated she does not ever recall having contact with STEVEN AVERy. She stated, to her
recollection, she has never seen him. She denied that STEVEN had ever baby-sat or taken care
ofher.
She stated she may have seen STEVEN AVERY at some time but she is unsure about this. She
stated she recalled the name when he was released from prison. SI,T.{SHINE indicated she had
no recollections of any maltreatment or harm at the hands of any AVERY family member. She
did state she recalled when "bad stuff'was on television, LORI would ask the to cover
"|tild..n
their eyes with pant legs or other clothing articles. She stated this was not to imply there was
anything inappropriate going on during the time that she was being taken .ur" oiby LORI
AVERY.
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For the results of that examination, please see the included FBI report.
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Tammy L. Weber
DOB 10/07/68
1617 18th Street
Two Rivers, WI 54241
Telephone number: 920-553-2234
Upon arival, we knocked on the door and were invited into the residence by TAMMY. We
began speaking to TAMMY in reference to her relationship with STEVEN AVERy or any of the
other AVERY family members. TAMMY stated she has known the AVERY family since she
has been a child. She stated she, in fact, grew up with the AVERyS.
I asked TAMMY about previous statements she had made about there being police officer
involvement in the alleged setup of STEVEN AVERY as well as statements she had previously
made that a certain officer had made comments that STEVEN AVERY had been set up.
TAMMY stated a nephew of hers by the name of JOSHUA WALTER had come to her house
along with two friends by the name of JASON and SHAWN (ph) SCHNEIDER. TAMMy
states at that time, they were talking about the HALBACH murder case and JOSHUA, JASON
and SHAWN had stated they had learned from a TWO RIVERS POLICE officer that STEVEN
was possibly innocent. TAMMY stated to me at that time, "If anybody did it, it would be
CHUCK.''
I asked TAMMY what police officer made the statement. She stated she did not know; she iust
knew that it was a Two Rivers cop.
TAMMY stated she initially agreed with those guys that she did not feel that STEVEN was
capable of doing such a thing and was not guilty of it. She stated to me, however, since that
time, as more and more evidence comes out, she is second-guessing herself.
I asked TAMMY when was the last time she saw STEVEN. She stated she would see STEVEN
on a regular basis and STEVEN and his girlfriend, JODI, would come to her house occasionally.
TAMMY states this past summer, she believes it was in June or July, STEVEN and JODI had
come to her residence. She stated while STEVEN and JODI were there, STEVEN's niece
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showed up at the residence. TAMMY states JODI became visibly upset and stated,
"That's his bitch." TAMMY stated JODI made the statement to her that STEvEN has been
"fucking her" meaning When showed up, STEVEN and JODI ended up
getting into an argument and JODI asked TAMMY to take her horne. According to TAMMy
at
that time, they did get into her vehicle and left her house. TAMMY told me when they initially
got into her car, STEVEN was parked behind her and he would not move his truck. TAMMY
stated she went out and confronted STEVEN and told him he had better move his truck at
which
time STEVEN did so. TAMMY states JODI and she then took off from her residence en route
to
STEVEN's residence where JODI was staying. According to TAMMY, she was driving at least
75 MPH because she wanted to get home before STEVEN got there. When they were driving
down the highway, JODI states STEVEN came up behind them very fast and passed them and
then pulled over on the roadway. TAMMY states she then pulled behind STEVEN on the
highway and stopped the vehicle. At that time, STEVEN got out of his truck and TAMMy got
out of her car and told JODI to lock the doors, that she would discuss this with STEVEN.
TAMMY states STEVEN was very upset and told TAMMY he wanted JODI in the truck and
stated nobody was going to take her to the trailer but him. TAMMY states she would not allow
this and told STEVEN they were going to his residence and he could meet them there.
When they arrived at the AVERY residence, TAMMY states they all went inside and STEVEN
and JODI continued to argue. At one point, JODI was pointing her finger in STEVEN's face and
STEVEN slapped her hand out of the way. I asked TAMMY what the arguing was about. She
stated it was about showing up at the residence because JODI was very upset with the
relationship that STEVEN and had.
TAMMY also remembers one night getting a phone call from JODI stating that STEVEN was
beating her up. According to TAMMY, that was the night STEVEN had gotten arrested for
beating on JODI.
TAMMY also told me that STEVEN told her that he does not know if he loves JODI or
She states that on one occasion, STEVEN had made the comment that is a slut and then
the next time he would say how much he liked TAMMY states she stayed at STEVEN
and JODI's residence, which would be on Avery Lane, until things calmed down and then she
1eft.
I asked TAMMY if she could tell us anymore about STEVEN AVERY. TAMMY went on to
tell us how she remembers one day this last summer STEVEN was over at her residence and the
neighbor girls were outside. According to TAMMY, the neighbor girls were wearing low cut
shirts and "everything was sticking out." TAMMY told us that STEVEN then started horsing
around with the neighbor girls and started grabbing at their breasts. According to TAMMy, she
told STEVEN to stop it, that they were only 13 or 14-years-old an<l STEVEN made the comment
to her, "If you need a piece, you need a piece." TAMMY states STEVEN was chasine the two
13 or 14-year-olds all around the yard.
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I asked TAMMY if she knew anything else about JODI being abused by STEVEN. TAMMy
stated she remembers JODI showing her a lot of bruises. The bruises would have been located
on her arms and legs. TAMMY also remembers one occasion JODI telling her that STEVEN
tried to strangle and kill her. She believes that was the same night STEVEN had gotten arrested.
TAMMY also remembers STEVEN's ex-wife coming around with bruises and black eyes and
his ex-wife would just say she had fallen down the stairs.
TAMMY also went on to tell us how a couple of people had told her TERESA HALBACH had
been related to the BEERNTSEN family. One of the people who had told her that would have
been JOSHUA WALTERS, her nephew.
Again, TAMMY went on to tell us how she did not want to have her name out there as giving
information about the AVERYS because, "You don't want to cross the AVERYS. I like living.,'
TAMMY also stated STEVEN's sister, BARBARA, carries a bat around in the car in case
someone would cross the AVERYS.
At that time, we thanked TAMMY for her cooperation and left the residence. We ended the
interview at approximately 12:33 p.m.
Investigation continues.
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Louis R. Vigue
DOB 0U04t73
l7l7 E. Park Street
Two Rivers, WI 54241
Prior to going to LOUIS's residence, we did speak with JASON SCHNEIDER. For more
information on the JASON SCHNEIDER interview, please see Special Agent FASSBENDER,s
report. It should also be noted that SCHNEIDER did provide Officer VIGUE's name as being
the officer he had spoken to about the HALBACH homicide.
I informed LOUIS that SCHNEIDER had told us they had spoken about the AVERy case and
was wondering what the conversation was about. Officer VIGUE states he bumps into the
SCHNEIDER boys when he is working third shift. He states they are out roaming the streets of
Two Rivers and he commonly bumps into them and does speak with them. Officer VIGUE
stated the SCHNEIDER boys were talking about being at their mom's house one night and they
were talking about the HALBACH homicide and STEVEN AVERY's arrest for that homicide.
Officer VIGUE states the SCHNEIDER boys had told him they were using a Ouija board and
they said something had come up about the Ouija board. Officer VIGUE stated the boys had
believed that STEVEN AVERY had been set up. According to Officer VIGUE, he stated to
them he does not know, it could go either way. Officer VIGUE stated he did not really give
them his opinion and was just making small talk with them. He stated he told them, "Anything is
possible." Officer VIGUE did tell us that he told the boys he thought (meaning Officer VIGUE
thought) it was ridiculous the MANITOWOC SHERIFF'S DEPARMENT would be settins
STEVEN AVERY up.
Investigation continues.
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Doris L. Weber
DOB 05/01/35
308 Mark Street
Mishicot, Wl 54229
I asked DORIS if she had seen STEVEN lately prior to his arrest. DORIS
states she would see
STEVEN at her daughter, CANDY's, house in the City of Two Rivers.
She also told us that
STEVEN would sometimes bring his girlfriend, JODI; over to the residence.
I asked her if she
had ever seen any marks on JODI to which she stated she saw
black and blue marks on JODI,s
arms and legs and JODI said STEVEN had abused her. I asked
DORIS how many times she had
seen JODI with the black and blue marks to which she stated
it was one time.
DORIS did tell us she thought that if anyone would have done this to
the HALBACH girl, it
would have been CHUCKIE because he had raped his own wife and has
a temper.
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her daughter, TAMMY, had asked STEVEN why he was sleeping
with his brother's daughter
and STEVEN's response to her was that he liked her.
At that time, we thanked DORIS for her cooperation and left the residence
at approximately
10:17 a.m.
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Jean A. Rohr
DOB lt/09t64
909 Sunset Court
Two Rivers, WI 54241
Telephone number: 242_0156
JEAN went on to tell us that she remembers one night when STEVEN
and LoRI had gone to
ROLLIE JoHNSoN's birthday party. She remembers STEVEN and
LORI arriving home
between 1:00 a.m. and 2:00 a.m. in the morning and they had been
drinking. JEAN stated when
they got home, LORI went upstairs and at that iime, stnvEN
forced himself on her. JEAN
stated, "That's when I lost my virginity." JEAN remembers
she was 19 or 20 years old and it
was in the house where STEVEN was when he got ar:rested for
the BEERNTS-EN tning. I asked
JEAN if she could describe it for me to which she stated she had gotten
done putting the kids to
sleep and went and laid on the couch and was sleeping and remembers
hearing tlr"- walk in the
house' She stated STEVEN had come over by h"iott the couch and started
fonoting her. JEAN
states she told STEVEN at that time no. According to JEAN,
she stated she believes sTEVEN
thought that she was his wife. At that time, STEVEN put his hand
over JEAN,s mouth and told
her that if you yell or scream there is going to be trouble.
I had JEAN describe what happened to her in her own words to which
she stated, .,He put his pee
pee in myprivate." JEAN states she told him no and that is when he put his hand over
her
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mouth' She stated the whole incident took between l5 and 20 minutes. I asked
her what she was
wearing at the time. She stated she was wearing a nightgown. She
went on to tell me how she
remembers it very well because he was on top of her and she could
hardly breathe because he
was very heavy. JEAN told me that was the only time he had ever
done ihis to her.
JEAN went on to say how when it happened it hurt like somebody was putting
a knife into her. I
asked her if she had ever told anyone about it to which she stated
she had told some of her family
members but did not report it to the police because she did not want
anyone to think that she was
a slut' JEAN stated LORI was pregnant shortly thereafter; and prior
to LORI having the baby,
she had made her (meaning JEAN) move out of the house and go
to her mom,s house. LORI
had made the statement that she did not want JEAN to be in bed with
her husband while she was
in the hospital.
AAer this had happened to JEAN, she stated she thinks she lived there about
a month or two
after.
I asked JEAN if she has seen STEVEN since he had gotten out of prison to which she
stated she
would occasionally see him at WAL-MART where she works. JEAN stated
she never went back
and lived with STEVEN since that incident and her leaving the house.
we thanked JEAN for her cooperation and ended the interview at I 1:10 a.m.
Investigation continues.
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On Thursday,01119106, at 7037 hours, Inv. BALDWIN and I (DEDERING) did interview JODI
STACHOWSKI, previously mentioned in this report, regarding this matter. The interview took
place at the MANITOWOC COLINTY JAIL where STACHOWSKI is still incarcerated.
In this interview JODI did state that STEVEN AVERY is a controlling individual. I asked JODI
if she had ever stood up for herself and told STEVEN no and she stated the only time she had
ever told STEVEN no was when she wanted to attend the stock car races and he told her she
could not. She stated at that time, he came home at about the same time she did, they fought and
argued and he choked her.
I asked JODI if she had ever watched pornography on DIRECTV with STEVEN and she stated
he would watch pornography but she would sleep. She stated there were no discussions of any
sexual threesomes.
JODI did state she believes STEVEN will remain in the area if he is released on bond.
JODI once again stated STEVEN told her that STEVEN had sex with his niece, "at
least twice." She stated these are the times STEVEN told JODI about. JODI believes STEVEN
was using the relationship between JODI and STEVEN as cover for his relationship with
JODI indicated she does not believe STEVEN now has any feelings toward
Inv. BALDWIN and I did show JODI some coffespondence between DEB KLEMP and
STEVEN AVERY. The letters were of a romantic nature and some of the letters were graphic in
their sexual content. JODI did become ang4y about these letters stating that some of the words
STEVEN wrote to DEB were actually words that JODI had written to STEVEN. JODI requested
copies of the letters. She was told that we would look into her request.
The interview terminated at 1120 hours and these were the only items we leamed that mieht have
been new.
Investigation continues.
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ERVIN F. KOEHNKE
DOB 0st19t66
g21A S. 19th Street
Manitowoc,WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-682-3421
We did speak with ERVIN's wife, JUDITH A. KOEHNKE, DOB 12105162. She indicated
ERVIN advised her that the unit he saw parked in the Mishicot area was totally different from
the unit that the photos presented at the 12106105 preliminary hearing of STEVEN AVERY
depicted. She indicated ERVIN was culrently asleep and is a third shift worker.
I left my business card and advised JUDITH to have ERVIN contact me.
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On Friday, 01120106, at8:44 a.m., I (DEDERING) did place a telephone call to GEORGE
ZIPPERER, previously mentioned in this report, in response to a call he had placed to the
sheriff s department.
GEORGE indicated there are no cell phones in the house with the exception of his daughter's
cell phone.
GEORGE stated he did call AUTO TRADER on one occasion after HALBACH went missing.
He stated he spoke to someone about HALBACH coming onto his yard without permission and
that she was trespassing.
GEORGE denied making any sorl of phone call in which he purported himself to be STEVEN
AVERY.
GEORGE stated he believes some AUTO TRADER representative called asking when he was
going to "pay the bill." He then indicated it was a possibility he had called the AUTO TRADER
regarding this matter.
GEORGE once again denied making any sort of phone calls to AUTO TRADER purporting
himself to be STEVEN AVERY.
I asked GEORGE if it was possible that JASON had contacted AUTO TRADER and he stated he
was unsure about this.
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KOEHNKE advised me that he saw a unit parked in the turnaround in Mishicot just west of
Mishicot on Thursday,lll04l05. He stated the vehicle was parked facing east and that he
observed a large hole in the windshield as well as alarge hole in the driver's side window.
KOEHNKE stated when he heard about HALBACH's vehicle missing, he thought, perhaps, this
was the one.
KOEHNKE stated, "The one on television wasn't the same color." He further indicated the
vehicle shown on television as a result of the preliminary hearing on 12106105 did not seem to be
the same unit.
Investigation continues.
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Ruth M. Olson
DOB 04/10/61
W5615 Piechocki Place
Nicholso WI 54152
Telephone number: 525-4401
On 01/19/06 at approximately 1323 hours, Inv. JOHN DEDERING and I (Inv. BALDWIN)
made contact with RUTH M. OLSON at her residence. I previously had informed RUTH that
we would be stopping to talk to her about the information she had about the TERESA
HALBACH investigation. RUTH had called the CALUMET COUNTY DISPATCH and
informed dispatch she wanted to talk to an investigator about the AVERY family and burning
and other illegal activities that had occurred in Marinette County.
I asked RUTH to explain what kind of burning and illegal activities she knew about. She said
her ex-in-laws, HARRY and LOIS BIELY, were currently living in a cabin in Crivitz next to the
AVERY family. She said her ex-husband has since passed away. Before she divorced him,
however, she had spent some time at her in-laws' cabin. She said her in-laws are very good
friends with DOLORES and ALLAN AVERY. She said she knew that the AVERYS had
poached deer and had butchered them in one of their garages on that properly. She said after
they would finish processing the deer, they would burn the bones from the deer so nobody would
find them. She said she does remember at one point hearing some gunshots and had seen the
AVERY boys pulling a deer off of her in-laws' property. At that time, she had thought it was
nephews to the AVERYS. She said the only person she ever really met was a lady by the name
of CANDY AVERY; however, she did not get to meet the other members of the family. She did
run across the nephews or the sons of Mr. and Mrs. AVERY and did not feel very comfortable
around them and thought they were creepy and that she could not trust them.
RUTH described the AVERYS having their property next to her in-laws with a road between the
properties. She said she would see them driving around on a golf cart on a trail they had around
their property and they always had a lot of beer at that cabin.
Other than the poaching of deer, RUTH never personally witnessed anything else but did not
trust that family.
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I asked RUTH if she would be able to contact her in-laws to find out any more information about
the AVERYS. RUTH said no she would not be able to because when she was divorcing her
husband, they did not separate on very good terms. RUTH stated she had not talked to her
in-laws since that time. RUTH also said they do not like law enforcement and she does not feel
they would be very cooperative with them and because they are such good friends with ALLAN
and DOLORES AVERY.
I asked RUTH if she would recall any other incidences that occurred up there or if she had any
other information she may have forgotten to tellus, to contact the sheriff s department and let us
know.
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Onl2ll9l05, I (Deputy RICK RIEMER, Unit #832, of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT.)
was involved with evidence duties I left the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. at 0800 hours
arriving at the WI STATE CRIME LAB at about 1014 hours.
Upon arrival, I did meet with the following individuals all of the STATE OF WISCONSIN
DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION (DCI):
We began to process Property Tag#7923, a brown tarp with bumt material on it. At
approximately 1105 hours, Dr. EISENBURG found a possible toe or finger bone.
Throughout the moming, aftemoon and evening hours, we did process the contents of the burn
pile by sifting through it manually. We were also joined by Inv. MARK WIEGERT and Special
Agent TOM FASSBENDER who also assisted us. It should be noted that the process involved
lying down a tarp, putting the burnt items on a tarp and transferring the burn material to work
station. It should be noted that all individuals in the work area had gowns and gloves upon
themselves while they were sifting through the material. It should also be noted that gloves were
changed very often during the sifting process.
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These items were sealed by myself after they had been turned over from the DCI personnel.
Propefiy Tags #6197 , #6200 and #81 18 were tumed over to Dr. LESLIE EISENBURG on
12120105. The remaining items were transported to the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT.
On 12120105, the DCI personnel processed Property Tag#7947, which was burnt material found
south of the fire pit recovered on 11/11/05. Property Tag #7947 generated the following items:
It should also be noted that on 12120105, the special agents at the scene were Special Agent
KEVIN HEIMERL, Special Agent JAMES SIELEHR, Special Agent JAMES HOLMES,
Special Agent RODNEY PEVYTOE, Inv. JOHN DEDERING of the CALUMET CO.
SHEIFF'S DEPT. and Sgt. BILL TYSON of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. The same
procedures regarding the processing of evidence were followed on that date.
Property Tag#7922 was also processed and the following items were generated from that:
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It should be noted that Property Tags #8148, the suspected bone fragments, #8i40, the bone
fragments; and #8150, the teeth, were turned over to Dr. LESLIE EISENBURG on 12120105.
The remaining items were then transported back to the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT.
where they were placed into secure storage in a transport trailer.
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On01126106, I (lnv. WENDY BALDWIN of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT.) along
with DORINDA FREYMILLER from the STATE OF WI DEPT OF JUSTICE made contact
with at her residence of 6904 CTH Y. Upon sitting down
with to discuss some questions that had come up in regards to she had
informed me that was not going to be present to be interviewed about her involvement
with STEVEN AVERY. said that was not going to talk about the incident that
happened with STEVEN and did not know where was at the present time. I
did ask about comments that were made to her by and asked if she could
explain those a little further. I was told there were death threats made to the family from
STEVEN AVERY. said had told her when the original investigation with the
incident between her and STEVEN began in2A04, said that STEVEN had threatened to
eliminate the family if she had talked about it. I asked if anything had come up since I
starled resuming that investigation with and she said no, that she hasn't talked about it.
I asked ifanyone in her family has had contact with JODI and confided in hg out the
abuse that she received from STEVEN. said that her 14-year-old Ourght J
$llJ;l,H#?ryffi fil' .:',1"i:*Tfl r;f i;"TilT
confided in her und tSiiffihe was sick of getting beaten up uffiEN. said that
she would definitely help her and that she would make affangements for her to leave and pack
her belongings up while STEVEN was gone and get her to a safe place.
i asked if at all during the time that STEVEN had been released from prison if she ever
had been hunting with him or had seen him shoot any deer. said that in approximately
2003 or 2004, she could not remember the exact year, STEVEN had shot two deer and had
registered those deer at the TALL OAKS (ph) grocery store in Marinette County. She said
STEVEN did receive a gun deer tag for that particular year and she personally knows that he did
shoot those deer in possibly 2003.
I told there were a few other miscellaneous questions that had come up that I needed to
have answers on. I wondered if she knew what cellular phone company her family had.
said everyone except BRIAN had CELLCOM for a cellular phone company. Those
people included EARL, CHUCK, ALLAN, DOLORES, CANDY, MARIE, BARBARA and
BOBBY. She said the only people who had digital cameras in the family that she knew of were
herself, which is cyberpix camera, and MARIE had a Samson megapix digital camera.
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could not answer for the rest of the family; however, she thought BARBARA maybe just used
disposable cameras.
I also asked to explain the adoption process that they went through with as far
as EARL was concerned. said is not EARL's biological daughter and she was
born (ph). said that biological father is
(ph); however, has never had contact with him. said has
known EARL for her entire life as being her dad and in 1991 when was approximately
three to four years of age, EARL and did complete the adoption process and EARL
adopted her. said the adoption proceedings happened in Manitowoc County. This is
when last name changed to AVERY.
I informed I did need to speak with about the accusations of a sexual assault
that may have happened between STEVEN and I provided with my phone
number. I informed that the district attomey's office would be willing to have a JOHN
DOE hearing and Subpoena if she did not discuss with an investigator what had
happened between and STEVEN. I informed that during the investigation, it
was found out that several people knew STEVEN had sexual intercourse with I
informed that I would like for to contact me by the end of the week so I could
speak with her.
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On01127106 at approximately 11:50 a.m., I (Inv. WENDY BALDWIN of the CALUMET CO.
SHERIFF'S DEPT.) made contact with at her residence of
6904 CTH Y. Prior to this date, I had spoken to on the telephone and had
agreed to meet at her house on this date and time to discuss the incident with STEVEN AVERY.
During my conversation with she did admit that STEVEN AVERY had forced sexual
intercourse on her in the summer months of 2004. did go into detail on what occurred
during that incident and had told me that she never agreed to the sex and had told STEVEN no.
said STEVEN had physically forced her hands over her head and had penis to vagina
intercourse with her. Prior to this incident and after, also informed me that there were
many threats made against her. She said that STEVEN would threaten to harm her, her mom and
dad, and burn their house down if she did not do what he asked her to do. She said that varied
from meeting him someplace to going to the store with him. said after quite a length of
time of this occurring, she grew very sick of how he was treating her and how he acted around
her. stated she would tell STEVEN numerous times that he could not act that way
around her, that she was his niece and STEVEN would tell her that it was meant to be and that
they would get married someday because she was not his biological niece. also said she
is very afraid of STEVEN if he were to get out on bond and had already informed her manager
that she would not work alone at her job at night if STEVEN was out on bond. said she
is very scared of STEVEN. stated, after the incidents that happened between the two of
them, she was paranoid being home alone and feared that STEVEN may retaliate or try to harm
her.
Prior to the conclusion of my interview, I asked if there was more than one occasion that
STEVEN had had sexual intercourse with her. said no, it was just one time. I informed
that if she had anything else to tell me about STEVEN AVERY or the relationship that
they had, she could contact me. I provided my business card to her.
The tape of the interview will be transcribed and a copy will be attached to this report.
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INV. BALDWIN: Well I'm just going to let you start talking, all right. What do you want to
tell me?
E: I don't know. My mom said that you told her like four people told you
that I had sex with Steven.
E: No. I can tell you one thing that, yeah, he forced me to have sex with him.
: And he was like well, he would tell me things like, if you don't do this,
I'm gonna hurt you; if you don't do this, I'm gonna set your house on fire or that I might hurt
your dad; and if you don't do this that I was gonna
INV. BALDWIN: What kinda, what kinda things did he mean by if you don't do this? Can
you give me for an example? Like you said if you don't do this, I'm gonna set your house on
fire, do you remember what that was exactly you had to do or he would
: And I was like, I can't, I got, I'm staying home tonight. He was like, well
meet me in Manitowoc. Tell your dad that you have to do something, you have to go to the
store. I was like I was just at the store the other day. And he goes, well tell them that you need
to get something at Wal-Mart. I was like okay, whatever, 'cause then he would say he told me
that if I didn't meet him there that he was gonna hurt me. I was like you can't hurt me.
INV. BALDWN: How, how would he, did he threaten how he would hurt you or
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: And then there was a couple of times that he told us that, or told me, that if
I didn't do something that he wanted me to do that he would set our house on fire and that we
would have nothing. And then
: Yeah.
INV. BALDWIN: Yeah, I can see why. And are you still scared of him to this day?
: Oh veah.
: Especially when I heard he was going to get out. I was like dad I'm not
going nowhere by myself.
: I even told my managers that I won't work alone if I knew he was out.
Like now they have me working with somebody because I'm afraid that he would get out and
that no one would tell me.
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: So
INV. BALDWIN: When did this all start Was it right after he got out of prison?
: No.
INV. BALDWIN: Was he starting to come on to you then when you were still around 16?
: Kind of. I got freaked out because of him. Like every time I would sleep
by my Aunt Barbara's house he would always be over there
: And he would be over there and he would just like play fight with me and
I was like, knock it off and then he would just start, he would always be around, all the time, and
that's what freaked me out the most, and then I started realizing well
: Is he trying to do something? Or
INV. BALDWIN: Right, and is that, um, because remember when we talked when you were
at high school, okay, um, you made a couple of references to your Aunt Barb's house, um, that
there was, he was trying to force himself on you, he would try to go underneath, you know he
was having contact with your skin, like underneath your bra and stuff, is that when that was
happening? Or was that after, or, both, I mean did it happen before
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: He tried putting
: Yeah.
INV. BALDWIN: Okay. So he was, he was stafiing to come onto you prior to him having
sex with you.
: Yeah.
: And, and then he would like, err then he forced me to have sex. He like
unbuttoned my pants and I would pull them back up. I'm like what are you doing? And he goes,
well this is the way it's supposed to be. I'm like, no it's not. I said you're 42 years old and blah
blah blah and he was sitting there, that doesn't matter, age doesn't matter. Does age matter any
other time? I was like, yeah. And he goes well your not technically called my or your not
technically my niece. I was like, by papers yes I am.
: I said just because I am not blood related doesn't mean. Like he wouldn't
consider him my uncle. He said I'm not your uncle. And then he got my Aunt Barbara to say a
bunch of stuff like how, like her boys sometimes kid around with it because I'm so close to them,
her boys, that I would call them like my best friend and my cousins
INV. BALDWIN: Um hm
: And then they used to kid around and say well you're not our cousin. I
was like oh yes, eff we are and then they're like, oh I'm just kidding.
INV. BALDWIN: Okay. Okay. Um, where did some of this other stuff happen? Where,
how many, how many times did he force sex on you
: Just once.
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: Yeah
INV. BALDWIN: was there. Was it like down in the basement? Or in the bedroom? Or
In
INV. BALDWIN: the living room? Or do you remember? I know you don't like talking
about this and I don't like bringing it back up for you okay, I don't. It's, it's hurlful stuff.
INV. BALDWIN: It, it is. In the long run it's going to be better. Okay? This is one
way of coping and dealing with it. Okay? And moving on. All right. And, and I'm, I'm not
going to make any promises to you but I am going to try and protect you as much as I can.
Okay?
Uh hm.
INV. BALDWIN: No one. Why were you there at that particular time? Do you remember
Because I was going there to meet my Aunt Barbara there but my Aunt
Barbara didn't show up right at the time that she was going to be.
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: Because I was going to go to town with her and get groceries and stuff.
INV. BALDWIN: Okay. Was that preplanned by Steve? Did he know that she wasn't going
to be there? Or
: I don't know. I just, I went there and he must have, he probably seen my
car because it wasn't when he, he didn't get along with my family too well.
INV. BALDWIN: Um hm
: I think it was the trailer house or his ice shanty, one of the two, I don't
know.
INV. BALDWIN: Okay. Do you remember when it was? What time of year? Summer?
Fall? Do you remember? Excuse me do you, was it a couple of vears ago?
INV. BALDWIN: Okay. So it wasn't last summer? It was the summer before? So maybe in
'03?
: It was like, I would say probably three or four months after my l Tth
birthday.
: f ao.r', know.
: Yeah.
: 14'h.
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: Yup.
: Yup.
: '03, that would be three years ago. Wouldn't it be? Oh no I just turned
: Right.
INV. BALDWIN: in '04? Yeah, so it would have been '03 you turned 17. So, okay, I'm just
trying to get a timeframe here of what year we're looking at. Okay. Um, as hard as it's gonna be
can you kinda described what happened that day, what you were doing, you said you were going
over by your Aunt Barb to go shopping with her
: Yeah.
INV. BALDWIN: Okay, what, what happened after that, you came inside, she wasn't there,
you were just
: Yeah.
: Yeah, usually the boys are there and they weren't so I was sittin' on the
couch watching TV and my Uncle Steven came through the front door.
INV. BALDWIN: Um hm
: And he says what are you doing here? I was like, I'm waiting for Aunt
Barbara.
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INV. BALDWIN: Um hm
: And then he kinda like got closer and closer to me and before this he
would stick his hands up my shirt and I would just pull 'em away
: And then he would be like, well he said something about, something about
the bedroom. I was like I don't want to go in the boys's room 'cause, I don't know, boys stink.
: Yes.
INV. BALDWIN: Yah, sweaty, stinky. Um, do you remember what time of day it was?
: Not, it was
like around the time that she would set home from work
That she would be home at like whenever time she sot home from work
: And, I don't know, he just pushed me down on the bed and he held my
arms down and I said you can't overpower me because you get me mad, I'll overpower you.
INV. BALDWIN: What, what bed did he push you down on?
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: Yeah.
: He just started, like, he like took both my hands and put 'em like this
: and he just start like pulling my pants off me and I tried to wiggle to get
them back up and because he just kept putting more pressure on my hands and every
I couldn't
time I would move up, he would grab 'em with both hands and move, err, hold 'em like this
again and then as soon as I would go back up, he would push harder
: And, ah, and then it just hurt my arrns so Iiust tried wiggling out of it and
I couldn't get out of it.
: I told him to stop because he doesn't belong doing this and he was just in
prison for that, that he didn't do, so why would he try doing something dumb like that
INV. BALDWIN: Did that make him more mad? When you told him that?
: He goes, aah, sort a, he just laughed. I was like it's not funny. I said let
me go now.
INV. BALDWIN: Um hm
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: And he goes no it's meant to be, it's meant to be. And he goes I'm gonna
maffy you some day. I was like no you're not. He goes when I get all my money, you'll see. I
was like you won't be getting no money if you're gonna be like this.
: I left.
INV. BALDWIN: I mean did he, he obviously had sex with you.
: Yeah, and I kept on telling him no and your just, when I would try to get
up and pull away, he would spread my legs with his elbows.
INV. BALDWIN: Um hum. So did he have. Okay. And then, and then what happened? So,
did he just pull your pants off or did he completely take your shirt off too? or
: Yeah.
INV. BALDWIN: Okay. Um, I know we're going to get technical words and it's, you know,
kinda gross, but, and we and we have to talk about it. Okay? lJm, so when he, he pulled your
pants down, pulled, he pulled your underwear down too and then he was just on top and he
forced himself on you? Or, I mean, did he do oral sex on you? Or was it just, can you kinda
describe what happened?
: And I'm like get off me and I would pull his hand out from underneath it.
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: ena, unO then he like held my hands back down and he just, I don't know,
it's, it's sick, I don't (starts crying)
INV. BALDWIN: I know. I know. I'm sorry You know kiddo, it's going to be all
right.
: Okav
INV. BALDWIN:
: Uh huh?
INV. BALDWIN: This is not fun stuff to talk about at all. Okay. You know what? I don't
want to see him ever hurt you again. Okay.
: The thing I hated the most was when I stayed away from him, he was
sitting there and stared at me all the time. Like he would come into my work and
: And the only other girl that I worked with there is the one in the mart, and
he would come over by me and say well I want a 12 inch blah, blah, blah, and I'm like, and then
he would make this smart comment and stuff. I'm like if you're going to act like that, you can
get out of the store. And he goes you can't kick me out of here. And I was like you want to
make a bet? I can call the manager right now. And he goes well you wouldn't do that. I was
like well I'11 call the police instead. And he goes well you wouldn't do that either because
everyone in the family would hate you.
INV. BALDWIN: What kinda stuff would he do that, did he make perverted comments to
you? I mean
INV. BALDWIN: Like, like what? Can you give me for an example?
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: Sometimes yeah, until I just ignored him and he was like you're playing
the ignoring game now.
INV. BALDWIN: The one time that he forced sex on you was it, did he penetrate you
with his penis? Did he?
INV. BALDWIN: Did he have sexual intercourse, I mean was there, did he um, did his, was
he in contact with you. I mean did he physically penetrate you with his penis. In your vagina?
Yeah, because it hurt and I told him to get off me now because he's
hurting me really bad.
: No.
: I don't know.
INV. BALDWIN: You don't know if he did or not. Was he wearins a condom?
I don't know. He just held me down. That's all I can really actually
remember.
INV. BALDWIN: But he felt. you felt him inside vou. risht?
Uh huh.
INV. BALDWIN: Okay. AU right. Okay, enough about that. I'm, (telephone ringing)
telephone's for you. Um, there was, there was a year from probably, from when that happened
till obviously last, this last fall, okay, and you said he would continue making threats and stuff
against you. What kind of threats would he, would he continue with I'm going to hurt your
family or
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: No then he started like saying, well, because I was on the big kick, I hated all the
stuff he did to me.
: So-f *orrfA just be upstairs writing journals saying that I hate myself, I
hate myself and I have one of these planners that, and I wrote all the bad stuff, that, I blacked, I
blacked it all out now 'cause then he started forcing me against my mom and dad saying that
they're bad. And I believed him, 'cause, I don't know, I used to hang out with him a lot thinking
he wasn't a bad guy. I used to go ice fishing with him a lot with rny cousin Bobby too.
INV. BALDWIN: Before, probably right, right after he got out ofjail.
: Yeah.
INV. BALDWIN: Um
: And then he would just say, like tellme about, you meet me here and you
meet me there and you meet me here
INV. BALDWIN: Um hm
So I was like okay, or whatever, I'll come with you. And then he started
like, like you know how a uncle and niece should kiss good-bye. Well,
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And he would just come up to me and kiss me and I'm like what are you
doing? I don't kiss my uncles good-bye and he goes well I kiss you good-bye. I was like no, I
don't kiss nobody good-bye except for my ma and dad.
And then he would say well, he would tell me how. like mv mom and dad
hated me.
Ah, now I do. But before I would believe him, because, I don't know
why, I think it was because I was around him so much.
I know.
INV. BALDWIN: She would probably give up her own life for you. She really would. And
this would tear them apart if they knew what he did to you. You know. And if you want to tell
them, that's your choice. Okay? Because you are 18, and you know, I'm not gonna
INV. BALDWIN: I didn't sit down, I'm not going to sit down with your mom and dad and
say now this is what she told, that's, that's not my place. Okay? Um, obviously a lot of stuff has
happened since he was released from jail, from you know, the three years that he was out or so.
Okay? And, um, I just, I wanta, kinda get that all out. You know what I mean? The threats that
he made to you. I mean, when was, when was the last time that he threatened you? Was it right
before all this happened last fall? Or, I mean was it ongoing, or has he kinda left you alone since
he started seeing Jodi, or was he kinda still kinda after you?
He kinda, he harassed me a lot when he started seeing Jodi, but like after,
this is the second time she was in jail, right? The first time she was in jail for four months.
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: He would say, well like do you like hanging out with him more because,
err, and not me. I was like, well yeah.
: Yeah. And he was saying all this stuff like how I probably say a bunch of
junk about my Uncle Steven to him.
INV. BALDWIN: Right. You don't like him, he don't like him, why would you talk about
him?
Yeah.
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And then, like we broke up, and then two months later I went out with this
guy named Seth, and that's when he started leaving me alone.
INV. BALDWIN: Okay. And then from there on he left you alone?
: Yeah.
INV. BALDWN: He hasn't come on to you, he hasn't talked sexual to you, he hasn't made
: Well a couple of times when I went by the yard to, he'll look at me and
he'll just smile and he'll wink and I'm like okay, whatever, I'm leaving.
: I'm like knock it off because I said you're a perverted guy and he goes,
I'm not a pervert, blah, blah, blah, and
INV. BALDWIN: Um hm
INV. BALDWIN: Did he ever throw that back in your face, that you guys had sex? Or, we
did it once, we can do it again?
: Yeah.
: And, and I would just tell him, well you know what. Did I want it? No I
didn't.
: Yeah.
INV. BALDWIN: I can see why, because he probably, all your family's going to hate you.
They're not going to believe you. Right?
: Um hm.
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I know my ma and dad will believe me, because they believe everything I
say.
INV. BALDWIN: Well, you know what? I can tell that you're not pulling the wool over my
eyes, Okay? The stuff that you're telling me I can tell that it's, it's happened. Okay.
Because people that have been in your situation, it takes a long time, you know, to finally get
that stuff out and when, when you do, it's still very painful. okay? And, um, like I said, I'm
here to help you, however you want. Okay? Whether you want me to try and find a counselor,
I'm sure you can do that on your own, if you want to, but
INV. BALDWIN: Is it helping? I mean, were you able to talk about this?
No, I don't talk about this. I usually, like I talk to my sister, Kayla, a lot,
but I never told her any of this.
INV. BALDWIN: Yeah. You know, sometimes it starts with one person, okay, and then it's
easier to talk to another person.
INV. BALDWIN: Yeah, that's what your mom said. You're pretty close with her.
She's very coolest. She's like my sister because I lived with her for a
while.
INV. BALDWIN: Well, I would strongly recommend you doing that. Okay? Because like I
said once you tell one person, it's a little bit easier the second time. And then it gets easier to
deal with. Okay? IJm, so, is there anything else that you can think of during that time that he
was released from jail until last fall that something really bothered you, about what he said to
you, something really hurt what he said to you or there was another sexual comment that you
didn't tell me yet about, that you want to (dog barking)
That's about it. Except for every once in a while he would just put his
hand up in my shirt and my pants (dog barking) and then as soon as he started doing
all of this junk, I was like forget this, he doesn't need to be my uncle if he was going to be this
way.
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INV. BALDWIN: Yeah, I don't, I don't blame you, I don't blame you one bit. Any of these
times that he forced himself either _ (dog barking) having sex with you, or touching
you, did you ever allow him to do that. I mean, did you ever say, did you ever want that? I
mean you, I can tell obviously by how you are telling me, but I just want you to, I want to hear it
from you. You've never consented to any of that? None of the touching, the groping, the, you
know, fingers were they shouldn't be, the sexual act, none of that? That you consented to any of
that,
: Well
INV. BALDWIN: I mean, like I said, it's obviously, I can tell that's not something you
wanted. So, but I just want to clarify that. Okay? Um, anything else about him that kinda scares
you? Um, you said you know he made comments that he was going to burn your house down,
that he would hurt your dad. Did he ever tell you how he would hurt your dad? Or hurt your
mom? Or
: No, he just told me that he was going to hurl 'em, and I would ask him
how, and was, he goes you'll find out.
: And I was like, whatever, and like I would stay here all the time 'cause
thinking he would come, like every little noise scared the crap out of me.
: Yeah, and we had that little Welcome hanging sign there and every time
the wind blew
freaked out.
INV. BALDWIN: Um hm. And, and was this after the incident in the summer that he would
make these comments to you?
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: It was like all the way along, like he would tell me if I didn't go with him
somewhere, he would hurl me. Or he said my
INV. BALDWIN: Did he ever force sex on you those times when you went with him
anywhere?
: No.
Uh huh.
INV. BALDWIN: I'm sorry. My nose is running. It's gross. I'm sick. I'm very, very sick.
(blows nose). Um, I just want to make sure I cover everything with you now today so I don't
have to come back and keep bugging you, okay? Oh, I forgot to ask you this, or I forgot to ask
you that, or can you be more detailed in this or that. So I'm, I'm trying to cover everything right
away with you so I don't have to bug you again, okay? Um, anything else that you're leaving
out that you're afraid to tell me? Did he ever physically hurt you?
No, except for holding my hands down and I told him all the time not to
do that because it hurt me all the time.
: Like even when we were just screwing around and we would all like play
wrestle, he would hold my arms down.
: And I just got mad because he would not let me up, so I just forced him up.
INV. BALDWIN: What happened with those pictures with that marker fight. Was that all
innocent stuff or
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INV. BALDWN: Hang on for a second. (cell phone is vibrating) Hello, this is Wendy.
Hello.
AGENT WILSON: Hey, looks like there's somebody turning in. a red truck.
INV. BALDWIN: Okay. All right. Great. I don't know what that was all about.
INV. BALDWIN: (tape resumes) You're concemed about or, you know, something that has
happened between you guys, that you want to tell me about.
No, except there is a couple of times that he told me that if I didn't, like
when I was mad at myself, for not having enough strength to stop him, like he told me if, like he
would kill himself by running into a pillar on I43, he told me that he would take me with him so
that we can die together, because that's suppose, that's the way it's supposed to be.
INV. BALDWIN: Was that trying to run you over or something like that.
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: Well, before when I told _ (dog barking) if you want to go and run
into a pillar you'd better do it by yourself.
And he goes well I got my new truck and I'm going to take it, err, take it
and tun into those pillars andkill himself, I was like, so do it, don't be mad at me for it.
(laughing) If you want to talk stupid, do it then.
INV. BALDWIN: You pretty much, after you know, prior to, um, that incident, I'm just
going to refer to it as that incident. Okay? I don't wanna, um, get you upset an)irnore, but prior,
I'm just trying to figure out how this, this went for the last couple of years prior to that. He
starled coming on to you, he would kinda grope and grab you and kiss you in a way that felt
really gross to you, like an uncle shouldn't do.
: Yeah.
INV. BALDWIN: And then it just came to the point where you were home, you were at your
Aunt Barb's house with him and that happened; and then after that you really got tumed off by
him and didn't really want anything to do with him; and then the threats just continued. I mean,
if you don't wanna, if you don't go shopping with me, I'm gonna burn your house down, or if
you don't come over here, I'm gonna hurt your mom and dad. Okay. Did anything ever happen
up in Crivitz when you guys were up there, did he ever do any of that stuff up there? In that
cabin up there? Did anything ever happen there?
: I was like
: um, I was old enough to not have a kiss goodnight, I can easily go to bed
myself.
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: And then, it was no kiss, I tell you that. Usually, a kiss goodnight is on
the cheek
: And then he was whatever, be like that then. And then he got kinda angry
but still, he doesn't belong doing it, so
INV. BALDWIN: When we were at school and I was talking to you about this, um, you said
he would get really angry and kinda sulky and kinda sad or something when you would turn him
away and then two days later he would be fine and normal again and he wouldn't do that kinda
stuff, Was he like that a lot? Kinda off and on and
INV. BALDWIN: (change tape) _ quit when he had another woman in his life? Did it
stop?
: Not really, he, like, did it more but then I would just tell him to knock it
off, that he has Jodi, that he doesn't need to be acting stupid around me, and that he doesn't need
to be doing that.
: And he was like, well Jodi's nothing, Jodi's nothing, blah, blah, blah. And
that's the reason why Jodi hated me.
: Yeah.
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I was like
And then, I don't know, I don't even know, for a little while me and Jodi
got along. Like I would call her and my Uncle Steven didn't like that when I called her and
talked to her. So he just got mad at her and hurt her. And I'm like, Jodi I can get you out of
there. You can go to the DVC Center and she's like, well I can't, I can't. I was like, yes you
can.
I said my uncle works at the yard. I said all I have to do is go in the back
way, pick you up and bring you to the DVC Center. And she's like, well, I don't want to do that
'cause he'll hurt me. I was like, no, you can't even get in that building.
INV. BALDWIN: Did um, did she ever confide in you and say that Steve would force sex on
her or hurt her or hit her and stuff like that. Did she ever tell you that?
INV. BALDWIN: Yeah. Like punches or. Did you know that some of it was about you?
Err, sometimes, yeah. 'Cause she was like well you are, you're our
problem. I was like I didn't even do anything.
I said I don't see why you would be mad at me and she goes, she goes well
you're the only one that can make him cry. I said that's because he kn, knows it's true that he
doesn't belong touching me.
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INV. BALDWIN: Um hm. She um, would she get hurt by him on a regular basis do you
think? Or was it just from time to time?
I don't know
: She, every time he would drink, she would drink, my uncle would get mad
at her
and hit her and stuff. Like there is only one time I ever seen him hit, err,
him hh
and that was up north when we were all sitting at the table playing cards
and stuff and she was drinking vodka and stuff, and then we went, we went outside and my
Uncle Steven was like, you don't need to be acting like this and like literally pulled her to the
ground and picked her back up and I'm like come on
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: Yeah, I was like, dad, why didn't you tell or say something or do anything
and he goes because, elr, if I didn't let him be then he will have his arguments with me. Like,
there is no tuming him back the other way, telling him that he can't do it, because he will get in
your face and tell em, tell you, you he can do whatever he wants because he's not behind bars
anymore and that he doesn't need to listen to anyone anymore because he did it for 18 years. I
was like, still you need to have some rules.
INV. BALDWIN: So he felt like he was kinda invincible when he got out ofjail
: Yeah.
INV. BALDWIN: and that he could do whatever he wanted to whoever he wanted and
nobody was going to stop him.
: Yup.
: Yeah.
INV. BALDWIN: Um hm
: Yeah.
INV. BALDWIN: Right. Well, you've been very good about this all and I really appreciate
it.Okay? And like I said, I'm going to do the best that I can that this doesn't go on the new.
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Okay? And your name is going to be protected and we are going to do what we can. Okay?
Because you went through a lot and I don't want you to go through anyrnore, and I don't
wanna, but I don't want to promise you something and then I'm going back on my word and you
are mad at me and your mom is mad at me and your dad. Okay? I am going to do the best that I
can to protect you. Okay? But telling me this stuff is gonna help us so that your Uncle Steve is
never going to get out ofjail.
: My dad doesn't even want to get him out. My dad hates the idea. He
doesn't want to give up his life for
INV. BALDWIN: Yeah. So, I'm going to do the best I can. Okay, I'm going to
leave you my card if you promise not to rip it up.
INV. BALDWIN: Okay. Do you want me to write my cell phone number on the back of that
'cause you probably don't have that anymore, do you?
: No, I was cleaning out my purse the other day and I was like, I don't need
this, I already talked to um. My mom's like, keep it anyways. I'm like, no.
INV. BALDWIN: Well, I can, I can write my phone number on the back, my cell phone,
because I carry this with me 24-7. Okay, and if you ever need to get a hold of me, you can call
me anytime, day, night, whatever, okay? IJm, now I don't, you know, I, I think we pretty much
covered what we needed to as far as that is concerned, okay? Um, but do you have anything else
to offer as far as the case at hand right now, what's going on with your Uncle Steve right now.
Do you have anything to offer about that? Do you have any thoughts or ideas or anything like
that about that?
: No idea. I don't see how he could ever do somethins like this. I don't see
how he could find the time.
INV. BALDWIN: Does it surprise you after what you went through and what Jodi's went
through, that he would do this to somebody else?
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Nope.
: And everyone said that there is probably two people. Well to tell you the
truth, my Uncle Steven is strong enough to hold down two people at once.
INV. BALDWIN: Well, I really appreciate your time. Okay, and I guess I'11 do whatever I
can to help you. Okay? From here on out, whether it be two weeks from now, or two days or
two months, or two years, okay, I'm not going anywhere and if you're mom's got questions, she
can give me a call too. I'm probably going to go home sick this afternoon just because I don't
feel that good, but I'll probably be in the office tomorrow, if not Sunday, for sure. Okay. Um
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In the course of reviewing the incident, I (DEDERING) did reahze that I had done a telephonic
conversation with the following individual on 12127105 and had not dictated it:
GORDON A. SCHNEIDER
DOB 02t03t41
2263 Poplar Rd.
Chilton, WI 53014
Telephone number: 920-772-497 9
GORDON SCHNEIDER advised me he was aware of the fact that STEVEN AVERY was in
prison in 1991, and therefore, could be eliminated as a suspect in the LAURIE DEPIES
disappearance, but went on to indicate that he had information that CHUCKIE AVERY lived not
far away from where LAURIE DEPIES lived.
SCHNEIDER went on to indicate that, to his recollection, DEPIES wore her hair in the same
manner as "the HALBACH girl."
SCHNEIDER indicated that a subject named KATHY KALIES (ph) (now deceased) used to date
CHUCKIE. He stated KATHY and CHUCKIE have children together and she also wore her hair
the same as both DEPIES and HALBACH. SCHNEIDER stated he is unsure but believes that
KATHY KALIES's mom may still be alive.
SCHNEIDER went on to indicate that KATHY KALIES. LAURIE DEPIES and TERESA
HALBACH all had the same color hair.
SCHNEIDER went on to indicate that he thinks the blood evidence may have been "planted."
SCHNEIDER went on to indicatethat he believes CHUCKIE AVERY may have planted the
blood evidence.
SCHNEIDER went on to indicate that STEVEN AVERY should have come into $400,000.00
this month as a result of a settlement. SCHNEIDER states this would have been enough for a
down paynent on the junkyard, and he believes this would have caused friction between
STEVEN and CHARLES AVERY and their brother, EARL.
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SCHNEIDER went on to state that a subject named EUGENE SCHMITZ (ph) told
SCHNEIDER about this. According to SCHNEIDER, EUGENE gets his information from
ALLAN AVERY.
SCHNEIDER indicated that ALLAN has a brother who was a MANITOWOC COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT detective. SCHNEIDER stated this brother was demoted during
former Sheriff THOMAS KOCOUREK's administration and subsequently ALLAN AVERy's
brother was given a job as a Huber officer. SCHNEIDER stated ALLAN AVERy's brother
worked this job at least untll 1992.
SCHNEIDER went on to indicate that the smelter located on the AVERY property was not
running because of EPA laws and SCHNEIDER indicated he believes the AVERY family would
have gotten fined if they had, in fact, run it.
I did use a law enforcement search engine in an attempt to determine whether CHARLES
AVERY had ever lived in Appleton, and I was unable to determine whether or not this. in fact.
was the case.
Investigation continues.
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On Thursday,01126106, at 7272 hours, Inv. BALDWIN and I (DEDERING) did interview the
following individual conceming this matter:
CHRISTOPHER M. PEZEWSKI
DOB l0n5t67
Currently a transfer from the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT to DODGE
CORRECTIONAL.
PEZEWSKI was housed in D Block with STEVEN AVERY at the CALUMET COLINTY JAIL.
It should be noted that PEZEWSKI was sentenced on0I125106 to prison for failing to support a
child.
It had been learned that PEZEWSKI had written a letter on 0I120106 to jail staff conceming
some observations he had made about STEVEN AVERY. PEZEWSKI indicated that he had no
charges pending and was not talking to us for any sort of consideration on any charges. He
stated he was totally done with court as far as he knew.
I did give PEZEWSKI a copy of the letter he had provided the jail staff. I asked him about the
mention he made about STEVEN AVERY indicating the bones were "too far gone." According
to PEZEWSKI, AVERY indicated the bones would be too fire damaged for scientists to conduct
any sort of investigation on. PEZEWSKI indicated he and AVERY had recently observed news
footage from a lab in Virginia (apparently Quantico) and STEVEN had indicated also he
believed the bones were "too far gone."
PEZEWSKI indicated that STEVEN told him that while he was in prison for 18 years, he had
watched a lot of things on television. PEZEWSKI stated, in his opinion, STEVEN let on that he
knew what he was doing. PEZEWSKI stated STEVEN had made the comment, "That thing is
too far gone, how can they tell?" PEZEWSKI did state AVERY had made mention of a mink
farm being'Just up the road" and that AVERY had told him that if you put a body in with mink,
the mink would tear it apart and eat it.
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PEZEWSKI stated AVERY told him that HALBACH didn't have just one key, that she had a set
of keys. PEZEWSKI asked AVERY if HALBACH had the keys in her hand when she got out of
her vehicle to take the pictures, and STEVEN did not answer either yes or no. PEZEWSKI
questioned as to how STEVEN would know that she had a fulI set of keys if she had not brought
them with her out of her vehicle. It should be noted this question was not phrased apparently to
AVERY.
PEZEWSKI stated AVERY advised him that at one time they had goats or sheep, PEZEWSKI
could not remember which, at the AVERY "compound." PEZEWSKI stated he was led to
believe that sheep or goat bones have the same texture as human bones.
PEZEWSKI questioned AVERY as to who had graded the fire pit. PEZEWSKI stated at one
point, AVERY told him that he had done it himself, and when PEZEWSKI posed the question to
him at a later date, AVERY stated the landlord had done it.
I asked PEZEWSKI if STEVEN AVERY was incarcerated in the same cellblock as PEZEWSKI
when PEZEWSKI wrote the letter on0ll20l06 and he stated AVERY had already been
transferred to either the hospital or Brown County by this time.
I once again asked PEZEWSKI if he was looking for any legal assistance or financial assistance
as a result of his speaking with us. He stated the only interest he had was in helping the
HALBACH family.
PEZEWSKI stated AVERY told him that he does not believe he could be convicted on iust one
bone; that they would need most of a skeleton.
PEZEWSKI stated he had questioned AVERY about the license plates. He had asked AVERY if
the license plates had been found in his trailer and according to PEZEWSKI, AVERY had told
him the license plates were found in "two separate cars."
PEZEWSKI stated AVERY had told PEZEWSKI that he believed that someone had gotten into
his mobile home, had cleaned up the blood on his sink and had somehow transferred this blood
into TERESA HALBACH's vehicle.
PEZEWSKI stated AVERY had told him that AVERY believes the MANITOWOC SHERIFF,S
DEPARTMENT is after him and further told PEZEWSKI that the former Manitowoc sheriff had
told AVERY, "You'll never get out of this." I am unsure as to what AVERY was referring to.
PEZEWSKI stated AVERY indicated that everything that was located of an evidentiary value
was located by the MANITOWOC SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. PEZEWSKI stated AVERY
told him that AVERY believed the MANITOWOC SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT had items of
evidence in their pocket and had dropped them and then discovered them. PEZEWSKI stated
AVERY told him that AVERY believed that someone had somehow gotten hold of, perhaps,
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TERESA HALBACH's grandma's bones and had planted them in his bum pit. This is
apparently in reference to the mitochondrial DNA being passed from mother to daughter.
I asked how STEVEN is when there is news coverage on regarding this matter. PEZEWSKI
stated STEVEN watches this with very much interest.
PEZEWSKI reiterated that he had absolutely no interest in this case other than from a standpoint
of wanting to help the HALBACHS. He states he is not in any way related to the HALBACHS
or anyone else directly involved in this investigation.
Investigation continues.
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Todd M. Halbach
DOB 07/11/65
lt29 ft
Kiel. WI 53042
Cell phone number: 286-2690
Sue M. Vetter
DOB 03/r8/56
770 n. Albert, #14
Manitowoc, WI
Telephone number: 684-4117
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of 12:30 p.m. and approximately 1:00 p.m. or 1:30 p.m. VETTER indicated they were back in
Manitowoc at 1:30 p.m.
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Thomas F. Misko
DOB 03t25t59
1607 S. 13th Street
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 686-0506
Jill A. Peterson-Misko
DOB llt30t57
1607 S. 13th Street
Manitowoc. WI 54220
Telephone number: 686-0506
JILL and THOMAS indicated also with them was a LYLE RODER (ph) and provided a phone
number of 578-1973 to investigators.
Inv. STEIER spoke with LYLE RODER who indicated he had CHARLES AVERY replace his
starter. He indicated STEVEN AVERY was working on a forklift all morning moving cars.
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Kimberly A. Havel
DOB 09n7 t67
l22g S.15th Street
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 683-3092
On Thursday,01119106, Inv. STEIER and DCI Agent SCHMITT spoke with KIMBERLy
HAVEL at her residence. She indicated her husband, JOHN M. HAVEL, M/W, DOB 02105/60,
had a conversation with JEFF WAZNEY at their home. KIMBERLY HAVEL described JEFF
WAZNEY as appearing to be trying to stay away from the police or hiding from the police.
KIMBERLY stated WAZNEY had thought the drug unit was after him in the Manitowoc area.
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Mary A. Coppersmith
DOB 06t06t63
1818 School Street, #H
Two Rivers" WI 54241
Telephone number: 920-905-9294
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DATE OF ACTIVITY:
On 1ll10/05 at2:02 p.m., the CALUMET COTINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT had received
information from SHANNON P. SCHROEDER, F/w, DoB 08i07/65, from 2327 CTHvv,
Mishicot. SHANNON reported he had seen black smoke north of their property at
approximately 1 1 :00 a.m.
Inv. STEIER and DCI Agent SCHMITT met a WILLIAM AHRNDT at SHANNON
SCHROEDER's residence on CTH VV. WLLIAM indicated they had confirmed this was the
wrong area. The fire was actually on CTH B at a brick house, which was being destroyed.
Inv. STEIER also spoke with SHANNON SCHROEDER telephonically. SHANNON also
confirmed the black smoke, which they had seen on 10131105, they had again observed on a
different date following the Monday in question. SHANNON indicated this was a house that
was being torn down.
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DATE OF ACTIVITY:
o Three 55-gallon barrels with miscellaneous items inside, bearing Property Tag Nos. 642,
643 and644
o A 5O-gallon buming barrel that was one-half full of material, bearing Property Tag No.
7702, and two other metal barrels with burnt material, bearing Property Tag Nos. 7921
and1922
o I brown tarp with bumt material, bearing Propefiy Tag No. 7923, and four 5-gallon
buckets of burnt material, bearing Property Tag Nos. 7947 ,7948,7958 and 7963
o Some commingled metal, battery jumper and dog leash, bearing Property Tag No. 7946,
and also some commingled wire and metal, bearing Property Tag No. 7950
The thirteen items that were loaded onto the enclosed trailer were signed over to Deputy
RIEMER.
Inv. MARK WIEGERT signed over custody of the following items that he received from the WI
STATE CRIME LAB, which are as follows:
Onl2l20l05, Deputy RIEMER retumed from the WI STATE CRIME LAB where he retumed
39 items from the WI STATE CRIME LAB. Deputy RIEMER returned 5-gallon buckets of the
debris pile, bearing Property Tag Nos. 8656, 8699, 8484,8659, 8687, 8685, 8684, 8662,8698,
8658,8651,8686,8652,8653,8695,8650,8654,8644,8657,9655,9649,9663 and 9661.
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The 23 5-gallon buckets of debris from the debris pile were all signed over to me and placed into
secure storage.
Burn pile ash, bearing Property Tag No. 8481 and 8480, burnt material, bearing Property Tag
Nos. 7954, 7963,1958,1948 and 7947 , were also signed over to me and placed into secure
storage.
The three 55-gallon barrels with miscellaneous items, bearing Property Tag Nos. 642,643 and
644, the 50-gallon burning barrel that was one-half full of material, bearing Property Tag No.
7702, and also the two metal barrels with bumt material, bearing Property Tag Nos. 7921 and
7922, were unloaded, signed over to me and placed into secure storage.
The brown tarp with burnt material, bearing Property Tag No. 7923, and also the commingled
metal, battery jumper and dog leash, bearing Property Tag No. 7946, and the commingled wire
and metal, bearing Property Tag No. 7950, were unloaded, signed over to me and placed into
secure storage.
Deputy RIEMER also brought back a box, bearing Property Tag No. 8313. The box with
Property Tag No. 8313 was empty when Deputy RIEMER released it to me. The contents of the
box remained at the WI STATE CRIME LAB.
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On 0l/06/06, I (Deputy JEREMY HAWKINS) was asked by Inv. WIEGERT to get the box
containing the contents of the cell phone barel, bearing Property Tag No. 8316, out of evidence
for transport to the FBI. The box with the contents of the cell phone barrel was placed into
evidence locker #5. The evidence locker key was given to Sheriff JERRY PAGEL. The box
with the contents of the cell phone barrel was signed over to Sheriff PAGEL.
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On01112106, Deputy RIEMER and I (Deputy JEREMY HAWKINS) transported a blue in color
golf cart, bearing Property Tag No. 8666, in an enclosed trailer back to the CALUMET
COI-INTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT to be processed. The golf cart was to be processed by
Deputy RIEMER and me. The golf cart was placed in the sally port. A black possible hair
strand was located on the seat of the golf carl. The possible hair strand was collected by me and
was logged into evidence with Properly Tag No. 8091.
Deputy RIEMER and I started to process the golf cart looking for any traces of blood or bodily
fluids. The seat of the golf cart and also the floorboard of the golf cart were sprayed with
luminol. Both areas that were sprayed with the luminol showed a reaction to the luminol. .tnv.
WIEGERT was informed of this. We were informed by Inv. WIEGERT to stop processing the
golf cart and it would be sent down to the WI STATE CRIME LAB in Madison to be processed
further.
The golf cart was loaded back onto the enclosed trailer and transported back to the secure area
where it is being held.
Bone fragments, bearing Property Tag No. 1955, were signed over to Inv. WIEGERT to be
delivered to Dr. LESLIE EISENBURG in Madison. Once the bone fragments were released to
Inv. WIEGERT, Deputy RIEMER and I went to the secure evidence storage area to photograph
all the items that were at the CALUMET COLTNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT that pertained
to Case No. 05-0157-955. The items for Case No. 05-0157-955 were to be photographed for
Special Prosecutor KENNETH KRATZ. The items for the AVERY/HALBACH case wer)
opened, photographed and resealed by Deputy RIEMER and I.
At approximately 3:00 p.m., Sg1. BILL TYSON of the CALUMET COLINTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT assisted in photographing and repackaging the items pertaining to Case No.
05-01 57-955.
On 01/13/06, at approximately 6:30 a.m., Deputy RIEMER and I continued photographing and
repacking the iterns for Case No. 05-0157-955.
At approximately 8:00 a.m., Sgt. BILL TYSON assisted with the photographing and repacking
of the items for Case No. 05-0157-955. When Deputy RIEMER, Sgt. TYSON and I went 1o the
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area where TERESA HALBACH's RAV4 vehicle is being held in secure storage, a number of
bags sealed by the WI STATE CRIME LAB were located in the rear cargo area of the vehicle.
Located in the rear cargo area of the RAV4, was a tripod for a camera, eight paper bags
containing items that were located by the WI STATE CRIME LAB inside the RAV4, and also a
silver cardboard box. The eight paper bags, the cardboard box and the tripod were taken out of
the RAV4. Also on the driver's seat was an envelope containing bolts for the drive shaft. The
envelope containing the bolts, the eight paper bags, the tripod and also the silver cardboard box
were taken back to the CALUMET COTINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
The tripod, the silver in color cardboard box and the envelope containing the bolts were
photographed. The items in the eight paper bags were photographed and all repackaged.
All items that were taken from the RAV4 were logged and placed into secure storage.
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I was also asked by Inv. WIEGERT to release all items that contained possible bone material to
Dr. LESLIE EISENBURG. The following items were taken to the DANE COLINTY
CORONER'S OFFICE and released to Deputy Coroner BARRY ERDMAN (ph):
The five items released to Deputy Coroner BARRY ERDMAN were signed over to him.
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On 01/37106,I (Deputy JEREMY HAWKINS) was asked to send hair/fibers, bearing Property
Tag No. 8676, to the WI STATE CRIME LAB in Madison. The hairlfibers, bearing Property
Tag No. 8676, were packaged and sent to the WI STATE CRIME LAB in Madison via Certified
Mail.
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Lori A. Dassey
DOB 10/20/61
1813 19th Street
Two Rivers, WI 54241
Telephone number: 793-5307
Upon arrival, LORI invited us into the residence and we spoke with her in the dining room area
of her residence. We informed LORI we wished to speak with her in regards to her ex-husband,
STEVEN AVERY. LORI states as long as she has been divorced, he still scares "the hell out of
me." I informed LORI we had information that she had written some letters to STEVEN while
he was in prison. LORI stated she, in fact, had written some letters. I told LORI we had
information that the letters were threatening in nature in regards to the children and possibly in
reference to her hurting herself. LORI stated she wrote him the letters because he wanted to
know what was going on in the house. She states she basically used him as a way to vent
especially when the kids were misbehaving. She states she would write in letters just like other
parents do when they talk to their husband and say things such as why did I ever have children.
I asked LORI if she had ever stated anything in the letters about wanting to commit suicide or
harm the kids. She stated she does not recall anything like that. Again, she stated she was just
venting to STEVEN about the kids misbehaving. LORI did state to me that she might have said
in one of the letters that if the kids keep it up, she is going to kill the S-O-B's. She stated it was
just normal talk again as a husband and wife would talk. LORI indicated to me this was all prior
to her divorce.
LORI stated once she was divorced, she no longer really had any contact with STEVEN. LORI
stated that STEVEN's mother would pick the kids up and take them to visit STEVEN in prison
and then the kids would come home with cards and letters. The cards and letters would state
things such as STEVEN wanting to kill her and stuff.
I asked LORI what spumed the divorce to which LORI stated it was STEVEN's idea and
STEVEN told her he wanted her out and wanted to set a divorce. LORI did tell me she had
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thought about divorcing STEVEN earlier; however, she was scared to and she knew if she started
the divorce on her own, he would eventually hurt her.
LORI indicates that while STEVEN was in prison, he would have other people watching her.
LORI states when she would move to a new house, she would get pictures of the new house in
the mail from STEVEN; that's how she knew she was being watched.
LORI did state that while she was married to STEVEN, she had ended up at the DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE CENTER on several occasions. At that time, according to LORI, the DOMESTIC
VOILENCE CENTER was in a secret location in Manitowoc County. According to LORI,
STEVEN had found out somehow where the DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CENTER was and
showed up there. She states he had to be removed from the DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CENTER
on one occasion back in either 1983 or 1984.
We asked LORI if anybody in STEVEN's family knew about the domestic abuse going on to
which LORI stated she believes they did but they would never tell the truth about the abuse.
LORI did tell me she had confided in her parents, EARL and PEARL MATHIESEN, of 2226
l4th Street, Two Rivers, telephone number 920-553-3389. LORI also stated her sisters knew the
abuse was going on.
LORI also told me she informed BETH SCHRAM (ph) who is her friend that lives on Sandy
Lane Hill in Two Rivers about STEVEN abusing her. BETH would have been her closest friend
at the time.
LORI stated the last time she had been at the AVERY compound would have been around Labor
Day weekend for BOBBY's graduation. She stated the only reason they went to the graduation
is because her current husband is BOBBY's father.
I asked LORI if STEVEN has given her any problems since he has gotten out of prison. LORI
states that since STEVEN was out of prison, for the most part, he has left her alone. She states
she avoids him at all costs. The only one she knows who has regular contact with him would be
her daughter, JENNIFER. LORI states she did learn from JENNIFER that BARBARA had been
making comments about the letters that STEVEN had sent from prison. Apparently BARBARA
told JENNIFER that if her mom (meaning LORI) thinks she is getting STEVEN by the letters,
they have letters that she (meaning LORI) had sent to him. Again, LORI basically laughed it off
and stated those letters she had sent to STEVEN were letters she was writins because she was
venting and using STEVEN as a venting board.
Agent FASSBENDER asked LORI if she had ever heard anything about STEVEN and
having a relationship. LORI states the only thing she heard was a rumor that STEVEN and
had a thing going. LORI also stated to us she heard humors that STEVEN had beaten
the crap out of his girlfriend, JODI.
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LORI did tell us that on one occasion, STEVEN and CHARLES had come over to her residence.
She states STEVEN had wanted to discuss with JENNIFER her probation status. JENNIFER did
not want to listen to STEVEN and at one point, was going to get up off the couch and leave.
LORI stated STEVEN grabbed JENNIFER, held her down on the couch and was yelling at her
and CHARLES had to step in. AGENT FASSBENDER asked LORI what she meant by step in
to which she stated CHARLES had to basically pull STEVEN off of JENNIFER. According to
LORI, this would have happened sometime last year at her house.
LORI did tell us that on one occasion, JENNIFER had come home from STEVEN's house and
had hickeys on her neck. LORI questioned JENNIFER as to what they were at which time
JENNIFER stated her dad had done this to her because he thinks it is funny. LORI states she did
not question JENNIFER anymore on it for fear of what she might hear.
Agent FASSBENDER then asked LORI if JEAN ROHR used to live with them. LORI states
JEAN, in fact, did live with them around 1983 or 1984. JEAN would help with the kids because
she (meaning LORI) was pregnant. LORI states STEVEN was a good friend of the WEBERS
who JEAN was before she had gotten married. She did state JEAN did not like STEVEN or how
STEVEN handled the kids. LORI stated JEAN was somewhat scared of STEVEN because you
never knew what would set the man off (meaning STEVEN). According to LORI, JEAN had
never confided in her or said anything about what STEVEN had done to her.
We questioned LORI about her knowledge of STEVEN being anested for the sexual assault for
which he was eventually exonerated. LORI stated she was aware that STEVEN did not do the
rape. LORI did state to us, however, that PENNY BEERNTSEN saved her life. She believes if
STEVEN had not gone to prison, she would be dead.
We asked LORI about what STEVEN had said about the prior offense when he had forced the
police officer's daughter off the road. According to LORI, STEVEN was pissed offat the
woman because she had been starting rumors about him standing out in front of his house naked.
LORI stated she believes now STEVEN must have been watching this woman as she had driven
by. STEVEN did eventually admit to forcing the lady off the road after he was arrested.
We asked LORI if she knew what the pictures or the letters would be about that are in the sealed
file at the MANITOWOC COUNTY COURTHOUSE reference her divorce. LORI states she is
not sure; however, she did send him several pictures of herself in the nude and doing different
types of things. STEVEN even took some of those pictures and sent them to her parents. She
states other than that, she does not know what those pictures would be about.
At that time, we thanked LORI for her cooperation and ended the interview at 1730 hours.
Investigation continues.
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The personal joumal was then resealed, labeled and tumed back over to the evidence custodian
for safekeeping.
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On02l0l106 at approximately 9:50 a.m., Inv. GARY STEIER and Inv. MARK WIEGERT of the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT did interview JEFF B. WAZNEY, M/W,
DOB 08/05168, aI his residence of 956 McArthur, Manitowoc, Manitowoc County, WI. Inv.
STEIER was following up on an information tip from KIMBERLY HAVEL who stated a JEFF
WAZNEY, who they had not heard from in two years, had stopped by on Sunday, 11/13/05. She
had stated WAZNEY was rather agitated and went on about STEVEN AVERY. He also
mentioned BILL WILHELM and RON RIGHT as being involved.
JEFF WAZNEY stated that in 1995 he was hit in the head and suffered a severe head injury from
BILL WILHELM. WAZNEY indicated he is extremely afraid of BILL WILHELM and was
worried WILHELM may have involved or set JEFF WAZNEY up in the TERESA HALBACH
murder investigation. WAZNEY indicated approximately four years ago, he was at the AVERY
salvage yard although he states he had never met STEVEN AVERY personally. The reason
JEFF WAZNEY was concemed is that his fingerprints might be located at AVERY'S AUTO
SALVAGE as WILHELM had JEFF WAZNEY write the word STEVE on a piece of masking
tape approximately two years ago for a set of car keys for STEVEN AVERY. WAZNEY
indicated he believed this tape with the name STEVE written on it was the same tape that
investigators had found on a gun under the trailer of STEVEN AVERY's house. WAZNEy also
indicated he believed WILHELM to have taken a Budweiser beer can, which WAZNEY had
touched, and theorized that WILHELM may have placed this Budweiser beer can at the
STEVEN AVERY residence or AVERY's AUTO SALVAGE.
WAZNEY indicated he sits around all day and speculates as to what happened and cannot
believe STEVEN AVERY would do something like this after sitting 18 years in jail. WAZNEY
believed he had seen news reports the police had removed beer cans from the AVERY residence
as well as seeing a news report about the masking tape with the word STEVE written on it on a
gun, which was also removed by the police officers.
WAZNEY was very emotional and stated he was afraid the neighbors across the street were
watching him. WAZNEY also questioned investigators whether they had pulled in front with a
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Inv. STEIER asked WAZNEY if he had ever seen a doctor for any medication to help
WAZNEY. Inv. STEIER asked this of WAZNEY when WAZNEY began to break down and
cry indicating he was so very afraid of BILL WILHELM. wAZNEy indicated he
has never
seen a doctor to take any medication and does not believe in taking medication.
Investigators concluded the interview at approximately 10:05 a.m. and left JEFF
wAZNEy at
his residence.
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On02l0l106, I (Inv. MARK WIEGERT of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF's DEPT.) did apply
for a Subpoena for Documents to the KOHL's DEPARTMENT STORE. It should be noted that
the Subpoena was granted to me on 01/01/06 and was subsequently signed by the Honorable
Calumet County Circuit Court Judge DONALD POPPY on02103106.
On02106106, I did fax said Subpoena to the fax number of 262-703-6356 which would be the
KOHL's DEPARTMENT STORE CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS, located in Menomonee
Falls, WI.
On 02109106, I did receive through the U.S. Mail a return on the Subpoena, which I had faxed, to
KOHL's DEPARTMENT STORE. The records, which I had received, were for the previous 24
months of transactions made by TERESA M. HALBACH on her KOHL's Credit Card. It should
be noted I did not locate any of the Daisy Fuentes jeans on any of the credit card transactions. I
did contact NICOLE LAIRD at the number of 1-888-343-1560. NICOLE would be the Credit
Card Fraud Investigator for KOHL's DEPARTMENT STORES. I thanked NICOLE for her
prompt response on the Subpoena, which I had sent her. I asked NICOLE if it would be possible
for us to go back further into TERESA's credit card statements. NICOLE stated it would be
possible, however, she did not believe that going back any further in her credit card statements
would produce any records indicating that TERESA had bought Daisy Fuentes jeans. NICOLE
states that KOHL's had just begun exclusively selling the Daisy Fuentes brand approximately
one to one and one-half years ago. NICOLE stated to me that if, in fact, TERESA had purchased
them, she most likely used a different credit card, checking account or cash. That was the end of
my conversation with NICOLE.
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45 on back
no distinguishable writing on, and eight eyelets which appeared to be from some
type of footwear
After examining said items, the items were repackaged and again secured back in the Calumet
County Evidence Room.
Investigation continues.
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I asked JODI how STEVEN had put it to her and JODI stated,
"srEVE just said he fucked her.,'
JoDI also stated that STEVEN had told her that he had sex with
at BARBARA's house
on one occasion' According to JODI, she has never spoken
to about the sexual contact.
JODI did state that STEVEN had told her that nua initiated the sexual contact.
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Upon arrival, we were invited into the residence. I asked KAREN if she had any other deceased
children. KAREN stated other than TERESA, she does not have any other deceased children.
KAREN also told us that her mother, DOROTHY SAKORSKI (ph) is still alive; however, she is
in poor health. KAREN also stated she does not have any nieces that are deceased and she only
has one aunt who would be deceased who is buried in Schofield, WI. KAREN turned over
pictures of TERESA and her family and friends for this investigation.
Investigation continues.
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on 11129105, the JOHN DEERE skid-steer, bearing Property Tag#8667, was locked in storage
unit #3 and the Master Lock key to storage unit #3, beu.ing prop. rty Tag#663,was
retumed to
me. Deputy RIEMER signed back over both the skid-steei and the key to me.
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All items that were released to Inv. WIEGERT were signed over to Inv. WIEGERT.
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In the driver's front seat an envelope containing bolts for the drive shaft
vehicle, bearing PropertyYS
of the motor
T ag #g239.
The bags that all the items were located in were placed
in a brown paper bag, bearing property
Tag#8243.
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Upon arnval, JODI was removed from the jail and taken up to the second floor
investigators
interuiew area. I informed JODI I wanted to talk to her again about her relationship
with
STEVEN AVERY. JoDI stated to me she had met STEVEN at the end of
May or the beginning
of June Ln2004. She stated it would have been approximately nine months after
STEVEN had
gotten out of prison. She stated when she met him, she started dating
him right away. JODI
stated things were great at first and they mostly stayed at home and goofed
aiound outside.
JODI stated things started going bad when she first found out about STEVEN,s
relationship with
She believed that to be around September of 2004. JODI states she
had overheard
STEVEN and talking on the phone. JODI states initially she let it go for a couple of
days' The next thing that happened was that STEVEN had left one day and"never
came home at
night. STEVEN had told JODI he was busy pulling transmissions out of cars. JODI stated
she
knew that was not true because he would not stay overnight because he was pulling
out
transmissions somewhere. JODI got very angry with STEVEN at which time
srEvEN stated he
was sleeping with in Crivitz. At that point, JODI told STEVEN to pack his bags and she
kicked him out of the house. According to JoDI, a fight then ensued and STEVEN grabbed
a
shirt and ripped it. JODI stated she was holding onto ihe shirt and STEVEN grabbed
at it and
then also backhanded her in the jaw. He then left the house and started packiig
his stuff into the
ice shanty where he was going to go live.
I asked JODI if she could be more specific about the date when this happened to which
she stated
she could not.
The second time they had gotten into an altercation according to JoDI was when
she had gone to
the races with some friends. She stated she went to the races with a person by
the name of
TAMMY WEBER. According to JODI, STEVEN had gone up north at that time and had come
home. JODI stated they had an argument and then TAMMY *ggBn brought her back
to her
and STEVEN's house. JODI states she walked into the trailer and looked around
the house to
make sure STEVEN was not there. JODI states while she was walking around the
house, her
cell phone rang. When she answered the cell phone, it was STEVEN and STEVEN asked
JODI
what she was wearing. JODI stated immediately she knew that STEVEN was somewhere
in the
area. JODI stated she said to STEVEN, I know you are looking at me. JODI then turned
around
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JoDI said the last incident occurred in spring of 2005 when they
had gone to Crivitz. J9DI
states they were all out in the woods and she and
STEVEN's dad, ALLAN, snuck away and went
back to the cabin to have a few beers. when they came
back to where they were working in the
woods, she was chewing gum or sucking on candy, she
did not remember which. JODI states
STEVEN noticed she was chewing gum or sucking on candy
and confronted her about having
been gone and drinking. JoDI stated she admitted
to hi- that she had gone with his father and
had a few beers at which time STEVEN slapped her
across the face wiih an open hand. I asked
JODI what she did then. She stated she jusiwalked away.
JODI stated on one occasion that he had smashed her cell phone
while they were up north
because she had changed her mind and did not want
to go ice fishing with him. I asked her when
that was. She stated she could not exactly remember.
I asked JODI if she hadburned anything in the burn barrel on the property.
She states she, in
fact, had bumed some clothes in the burn barrel along with
other gurbug". JODI denied buming
any type of cell phone. She also denied buming utry
typ" of camera in the burn barrel.
I again just reaffirmed with her if she had ever burned any Daisy Fuentes jeans
to which she
stated, "I've never owned any Daisy Fuentes jeans. I
don,t like Daisy FuJntes.,,
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Dolan L. Oelschlaeger
DOB 06nlt72
2911 Fieldcrest Drive
Kaukauna, WI 54130
Telephone number: 378-6499
DOLAN explained that he and his girlfriend returned home one night after drinking in
Neenah
and got into a heated debate about the STEVEN AVERY case. DOLAN said
he thought
STEVEN was innocent and his girlfriend thought he was guilty. While debating this,boLAN
had contacted the CALUMET COLTNTY JAIL and askedJo be put on STEVEN,s
visitor list.
He said a short time later, a correctional officer informed him that it would be okay
to do that
and took his information. He said shortly after that, STEVEN's mother, DOLORES,
had been
attempting to contact him via cell phone. DOLAN said the reason why he wanted
to visit
STEVEN was to offer some legal advice. He said he felt it was unfairfor STEVEN to be
tried in
Calumet or Manitowoc Counties due to the setup that STEVEN was facing. He was going
to
suggest for him to try and get his trial moved to the Eastern District o, u ,Jpr.-e
court in
Wisconsin because he felt it was biased to have STEVEN's trial in this area.
DOLAN said since that discussion, he feels differently about STEVEN AVERy and that he is
guilty at this point. DOLAN said he never had personal or voice contact with DOLORES,
however, two and one-half to three weeks ago was the last attempt she made to contact
him.
After DOLAN explained his intent to visit STEVEN, he questioned me on if an AVERy had
ever lived by LAURIE DEPIES. I had informed him that I was not sure, however, that has
come
up through the interviews in this investigation. I asked DOLAN why he was wondering about
that and he said prior to LAURIE DEPIES going missing, he had beln a good friend with
her
and her friend, ANGEL. DOLAN said there was a man that LAURIE always talked
about being
creepy and always watching her. DOLAN said he had heard it was one of STEVEN,s brothers
that lived by LAURIE and was wondering about that. I asked DOLAN if he ever brought
it to
the investigators' attention when she did go missing and he said no he did not. DOLAN said
approximately two years later, an investigator had contact with him due to his knowledse about
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scared of STEVEN it was just the way he would look at people.
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over her head pin
and her to the wall and then he would let
do this, she becaml very scared and would teu him not to
several occasions but could not provide me with any dates.
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Complaint No, 437
File Number
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Sue M. Vetter
DOB 03/18/56
770 E. Albert Drive, #14
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 684-4117
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BRENDAN: Yeah
FASSBENDER: we're not here to hurt anyone, we just, you know if you, you got a chance
to meet Teresa's mother and stuff, you've got to
know them a iittle and you,d know that they
were decent people too, and just like I think your
brother's are and you.-*orn is and people don,t
realize that because all the bad press and stuif.
And that's all we're, we,re thinking about, just to
bring justice, no matter how haid or how much
it hurts. Ah, for, for Teresa. This fbels pretty
awkward, but go ahead and tell us what's been bothe.irrg
y;.
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BRENDAN: That he's, that he's gone and I can,t see him
FASSBENDER: mmhuh, I kinda figured that was part of it. Were you probably the
closest to him as opposed ta like your brothers and stuff?
FASSBENDER: Yeah, Blaine would hang around Steven a lot too? Have you
been able to
go up and visit him at all?
BRENDAN: well I tried, but I, I couldn't get in cuz I didn,t have my like identity
cards.
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: No. Brendan, we know that, that Halloween and stuff you were
with him
and, and helped him tend to a fire and stuff like that behind
the garage and stuff and, anything
t-hat you saw that
night that's been bothenngya? And if you tuitt ttre fire, and we believe
that,s,
that's where Teresa was cooked. And if you were out there by the
fire and stuff, and by your
own words you went and got that, that seat out of a, the vehicle seat
remember tirat one, brought
it over and someone put it on the fire, did you put that seat on the fire or him?
FASSBENDER: What did you both grab it and put it, put it in the fire? What did you
see in
the fire?
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BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: Y9u know if you think you saw something in the fire,
and it's bo, starting
to bother you, or you're feelin' bad about it, the only
way it's ever gonna end is if you talk about
it' I, I gotta believe you did see something in the fiie. you wanna know why I believe
that?
Because Teresa's bones were intermingled in that
seat. And the only ,ray ne. ton", *"r"
intermingled in that seat is if she *ur prrt on that seat
or if the seat was put on top of her.
FASSBENDER: As I said, we're not gonna say you did and we,re not gonna
say you
didn't, we're not here to ... we're here to give you-the opportunity
to come forward, to talk to
us about what you did see, encounteredoutlhere that
nighi. we want to know, a lot, a lot of the
reason that we're doing this is because, how old are you-l6,
17? you,re a kid, you know and we
got, we've got people back at the sherifls dept., district
attorney's office, and their lookin, at this
now saying there's no way that Brendan Dasiey was out there
and didn,t see something.
They're talking about trying to link Brendan Dassey with this
event. They,re not saying that
Brendan did it' they're saying that Brendan had something
to do with it oi the cover up of it
which would mean Brendan Dassey could potentially be iacing
charges for that. And Mark & I
are both going well ah he's a kid, he had nothing to
do with this, andwhether Steve got him out
there to help build a fire and he inadvertently saw some
things that,s what it would be, it
wouldn't be that Brendan act-actually helped him dispose of-this
body. And I'm looking at you
Brendan and I know y9y something and that's wiat killing you more than anything
:aw else,
knowing that Steven did this, it hurts. wh"th". it was an accident
that Steven did it by, however
it happened, he's, he's gotta deal with that. Truthfully, I don't believe
Steven intended to kill
her' I don't know how it happened, only Steven knows how it happened,
and potentially you.
Do you know how it happened? What did you see in that fire?
BRENDAN:
FAASSBENDER: ...garbage bag and they were plastic? prastic melts pretty quick
right..
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BRENDAN: yeah.
FASSBENDER: Tell me this, when, when you, I mean you, you got
home fiom school and
stuff, w-were you there when the fire started o. did yorr.o-"
out afterlhe fire was going pretty
good?
FASSBENDER: And then were there tires on it before you got out there?
FASSBENDER: And then what time did you go in the house that night
about?
BRENDAN: About 10:30
BRENDAN: He was out there till like... ..my brother came home and said he
BRENDAN: Blaine
BRENDAN: 10:30
FASSBENDER: And that same night, did you help him push a vehicle somewhere
too?
BRENDAN: yeah I did
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FASSBENDER: And what did you do with that, was that a Suzuki? And where did you
push that?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: No other vehicle? (PAUSE). Can you tell me some other things?
BRENDAN:
BRENDAN: .....
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FASSBENDER: mmhuh.
BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: Well I hope you're gettin' over that. Just a girl, you'll
find others, right?
Talk to your mom about it at all? Did she say the same
thing, finalther girls?
BRENDAN:
BRENDAN:
WIEGERT: I heard that he did. I heard, and I was told Brendan Steve
told you what to
say and what not to say because it was you and him
out by that fire. I know you and him knew
what was going on there. -Everybody
really important that you be honest here oK? gets an
-It's
opportunity with Tom and I oK, and we want to give you
that opportunity to be honest.we
want to help you through this. obviously it's bothering you,
this whole thing is bothering you
and the rest of your family' but you'll never ever get
over it unless you're honest about it, cuz
this will bug you 'til the day that you die, unless
and tell people that, you know, Brendan told us what
/ou'r" honest about it. But we wanna go back
he knew. we wanna be able to tell people
that Brendan was honest, he's not like steve, he,s honest,
he,s a good guy. He,s gonna go places
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BRENDAN: That he said he was gonna get in the car and try
to get away as far as he
could.
FASSBENDER: .......Anyoneelsebylhefirebyyouthatnight?
there's a reason for that like
...... allnight. Ithink
Steven felt he, ah, could i*r, yo., to not say anything. . . .. . ..
fire" ' " 'and asked you to ..... using your love, and taking advantage of that.
WIEGERT: To cover up for hurting that girl, that girl didn,t do
nothin,. How would
you feel if that was your sister?
BRENDAN: ....
WIEGERT: That burn pit Brendan was no bigger than this table.
oK. you know how
big it was' I find it quite difficuli to believe that if
therJ"*u, u body in that Brendan that you
wouldn't have seen something like a han_d, or a foot,
a heaJ, hair, something. oK. we know you
saw something' And maybe you've tried to block
it out but it's really important that you
remember. Think back.
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FASSBENDER: I'm really. ...by the garage,by the house, by the fire pit. I know
you saw something. ... Mark and I both can go back to the district attomey and
siy, oh, ...
Dassey .. ' came forward and finally told us. Can imagine how this was *.ighing
on him?
They'll understand that.
WIEGERT: we'll go to bat for ya, but you have to be honest with us.
BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: Can you get close? Can you get close ... to telling us the truth.
FASSBENDER: It's OK, it's a big step ......a step toward feeling better about yourself, to
recovery, to not crying at night because of this stuff happenin'.. ...what you saw. I
promise you I'll not let you hang out there alone, but we've gotta have the truth. The
truth is
gonna be terrible. .....your mom.
WIEGERT: We're not gonna run back and tell your grandma and grandpa what you
told us or anything like that. OK.
FASSBENDER:
BRENDAN:
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FASSBENDER: was her car still in there when you went in there?
Tell us the truth.
BRENDAN:
BRENDAN: ......
BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: you're startin' to, you,re starting to get it out now oK. It,ll
.ight.. be all
...get it all out, it doesn't do any gJoa to get half of
it out.
BRENDAN: . ........the fire... .. . .said he was gonna bury it and
start..
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FASSBENDER: ohh. So you had to move it from behind the garage to behind the house.
Did he say why? Did you know why?
BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: You now know better, they were girl clothes, weren,t they?
BRENDAN: Theywere.......bug
FASSBENDER: ... pants and shirt and anything else you saw... Had blood on the shirt?
WIEGERT: Where on the shirt was the blood? Where on the shirt was the blood?
BRENDON: ...
FASSBENDER: Remember what kind of pants were they blue jean pants or...
BRENDAN:
WIEGERT: What else did he get out of the garage? Be honest OK.
WIEGERT: OK
BRENDAN: andarake........hetook
FASSBENDER: Go ahead
BRENDAN:
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BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: Yeah, it's not your fault. ...Like I said, Mark and I are not
going to leave you high and dry. I got a very, very important appointment at 3:00 today. Well I
ain't leavin' for the appointment until I'm sure you're taken care of .....telling the truth
........get this off your chest and get it out in the open ... so go ahead and talk to us
about what you saw in the fire are killin' you right now. . ...what you see. Go
ahead, go ahead. ........you've got to do this for yourself. I know you feel that it's gonna
hurt Steven, but it's actually, actually gonna help Steven come to grips with what he needs to do.
More important, this could help you. How long you thing ... are going to put up with this ...
You know we found some flesh in that fire too. We know you saw some flesh. We found it
after all that bumed. I know you saw it ...Tell us. You don't have to worry about
... ...you won't have to prove that in court. (phone rings) Tell us what you saw. You saw
some body parts... You're shaking your head. . . tell us what you saw...
BRENDAN: .....
FASSBENDER: You all rieht? You all rieht? what other parts did you see?
BRENDAN: Toes
FASSBENDER: ... part of a foot too? What other parts of the body ... Did you see part of
the arm, the legs? I know. It's all right ... Did you see part of her head? Skull?
BRENDAN: I seen.....
FASSBENDER: Okay ... a human body ... did you say anything to Steven? .... Was he
hoping you didn't see that or what?
BRENDAN: ......
FASSBENDER: Where? The body parts that you saw, were they on top of tires or
undemeath the tires. or?
BRENDAN:
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FASSBENDER: Pardon?
BRENDAN: .....
BRENDAN: No...
FASSBENDER: All right, we got, we got a lot of important stuff out there now. Take a
breath. Let's go over th-the parts that you mentioned, OK, so you mentioned toes, fingers, parts
of hand and feet and then what you thought maybe was stomach area or midsection or torso. Did
you see any parts of the legs....parts of the legs or arms. You sure you didn't see her, her, now
this is very hard, it's eas, not easy but it easier to say your saw a toe or a finger, but when you
start saying to me or I saw a head or a face or hair or you know stuff like that, that's when it
hurts though but I find it very hard that you didn't see a skull or the head. Did you see part of the
head or face or skull?
BRENDON: .. .....somewhat.
FASSBENDER: Somewhat?
WIEGERT: I know this is hard Brendan, but can you describe what you saw when you
mean somewhat?
FASSBENDER: When you say her forehead was it white bone already or was there still
flesh on it?
BRENDAN: . ......alittleitofflesch.
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BRENDAN: ......
WIEGERT: Yes? Did you say yes or no? I'm not sure.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Yes
FASSBENDER: So all the body parts were pretty much connected then when you saw the
toes, which means they were probably connected to the feet yet, correct? Which means the feet,
foot is connected to both the legs, so I'm just going to ask this question, you're saying that you
seen body part. You're pretty much, you're seeing a body? Is that accurrate? You saw her body
in there?
BRENDAN: Yes.
FASSBENDER: And then the shovel and the rake were used to do. to do what?
BRENDAN: .
FASSBENDER: Now you can tell me if you actually think ... you see that?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: But you did. And you never said anything to him. Have you told this to
anyone? And is that what's been bothering you a lot?
BRENDAN: YCS
FASSBENDER: And, and I understand that, that's normal because you've done nothing
wrong.
WIEGERT: Brendan, I'm going to ask you a difficult question, OK? Did you help him
put that body in the fire? If you did it's OK.
BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: Was the body in the fire before you got out to the fire?
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WIEGERT: When did you see it, when you first went out there or when?
BRENDAN: Like if
WIEGERT: So, let's just go through you, what time did you go out there?
BRENDAN: 9:00
WIEGERT: OK. So at 9:00 you go out and you go right by the fire?
BRENDAN: ....
WIEGERT: Yes?
BRENDAN: .....
WIEGERT: OK, and you see what exactly, explain to me exactly what you saw at
9:00.
WIEGERT: So you went there at 9:00, you see the branches, the tires, the garbage, it's
all on the fire already? Is it buming already?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah..
BRENDAN: ....
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FASSBENDER: Jodi's?
WIEGERT: OK, so you go get the, the seat and then what do you do?
BRENDAN: .... the big pit fire and then we got there and threw it on it
FASSBENDER: During this process, is he moving the rake, shoveling it to mix things up
and stir things?
BRENDAN: .....
WIEGERT: So then after you throw the seat on, what happens, when do you see the
body parts?
BRENDAN: I
WIEGERT: You saw the hands and the forehead. And then what did you see?
BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: So you went and got some wood, came back and he ... then what did you
see?
BRENDAN:
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FASSBENDER: When did you, did you ever see the body again then? What parts did you
see this time?
BRENDAN:
WIEGERT: When did he, when did he put the clothes on the fire?
BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: So you were still there when he went in the garage. Did you go in the
garage with him to get the clothes? He brought em out?
FASASBENDER: Now earlier you said the clothes were not in the back on the far side, how
did you tell that?
FASSBENDER: Are you sure you didn't go in the garage with him to get the clothes?
WIEGERT: Now I- I've been told that you and STEVE talked about the body in there,
OK, that's what I was told, and I believe that. You guys did talk about it, didn't ya?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: OK. So you tell me how that conversation went. What did you say to
him?
BRENDAN: I said why did you do it because.... . .......and he's like. .. .. . .and
told me not to say nothing.
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BRENDAN: ......
BRENDAN:
BRENDAN:
BRENDAN:
WIEGERT: What exactly did he say? He said he, you saw the bones and you said to
him why did you do it? Or did you ask him if it was a body or how did that go?
BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: You saw her car didn't ya? Her RAV4. Where was it when you saw it?
FASSBENDER: Where did you see it later? Was it in his garage later? Did you see it in
his garage?
BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: When was the first time you went out again?
BRENDAN: At nieht
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BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: Let's back up to when you go out there, did he tell you about Teresa right
away or did you actually see the body before he told you?
FASSBENDER: And he knew you saw it, did you say something to him then or did he say
something to you?
FASSBENDER: I can't believe that he wouldn't have told you how it happened and how
did he kill her.....
BRENDAN:
BRENDAN: Because.
WIEGERT: I also heard that he told you how he did it, that's that's true isn't it?
BRENDON: Yeah
BRENDON: .......car...the...jeep....
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BRENDAN: .
WIEGERT: How did he try to hide it, what did he tell you?
WIEGERT: The car you're talking about, her truck? Her jeep, he tried to cover it with
what?
WIEGERT: Did he say anything about shooting her. Tell me again how he said he
killed her.
BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: Did he say how he got, did he say he took her into the pit or did he kill her
out by the garage or his house?
BRENDAN:
WIEGERT: Is that what he told you, he took her into the pit?
WIEGERT: Yes?
BRENDAN: Yes.
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BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: How do you know that was ... ...instead of the truck?
BRENDAN: .
BRENDAN:
WIEGERT: Did he take you down and show you the jeep? Did he tell you how he got
the jeep down there?
BRENDAN: Probably
BRENDAN:
BRENDAN:
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FASSBENDER: Before you got home from school or after...Did he say anything?
BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: When you got home you said you saw her truck out by the driveway. But
did you see, did you see her? And when I say you got home, I mean from school, all right, and
that was at what time do you usually get home?
BRENDAN: 3:45
BRENDAN: ......
WIEGERT: Did he ever tell you what he was gonna do with the car? Did he tell you
anything else about the car besides that he put branches on it and, and a hood on it. Did he tell
you if he did anything with the license plates?
FASSBENDER: Where did he say he hid the knife in the car?. . .. . ..crush it. . ...something
specific about that ...
FASSBENDER: He put the knife under the seat. He told you that?
BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: Did he, he said he got mad. Did he say why he got mad?
BRENDAN:
FASSBENDER: Did he try to have sex with her or anything and she said no and
BRENDAN: .
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WIEGERT: Did he ever tell you that, it's very important, OK, cuz we had heard that he
might have told you that.
BRENDAN:
BRENDAN: NO.
BRENDAN:
BRENDAN: .......
FASSBENDER: Did you see any abrasions at all, bandaged up at all anpvhere? Did he tell
you that he hurt himself or she hurt him....
WIEGERT: Did he say what he did with his clothes? Cuz there had to be blood on his
clothes.
BRENDAN:
WIEGERT: Are you sure? I heard he told you something about that. I heard he told
you how he cleaned things up. Be honest now, if he didn't it's OK but if he did, you need to tell
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BRENDAN: ...
WIEGERT: You didn't see it, did he tell you about it?
BRENDAN:
BRENDAN: NO.
WIEGERT: OK
FASSBENDER: We had heard that he cut himself during the....Did he say that or not?
What did he say cuttin' himself during it?
BRENDAN: ........hurthimself
BRENDAN:
BRENDAN: Yeah
BRENDAN: That
WIEGERT: Go ahead.
WIEGERT: He said that he cut himself, while he was stabbing her? Yes or no.
BRENDAN: YES
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WIEGERT: Tell, just try to go through in your mind exactly what he told you about
him cutting himself. Put it in your own words.
WIEGERT: OK. Is everything you're telling me today, Brendan, the truth? Yes or no.
BRENDAN: Yes
WIEGERT: I have to ask you another difficult question. It's very important, that you
to be honest with me. OK? Did you have anything to do with the death of Teresa Halbach?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Steve.
BRENDAN: Yes
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yes.
WIEGERT: Yes?
BRENDAN: Yes.
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BRENDAN: Yeah
BRENDAN: Yes.
WIEGERT: And how did he get the truck in the pit again, tell me that.
BRENDAN: .....
WIEGERT: Honestly?
WIEGERT: Did he tell you what he was gonna do with her truck?
BRENDAN:
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BRENDAN: .....
WIEGERT: Honestly?
BRENDAN: Yeah
WIEGERT: Tell me
BRENDAN: Yeah
WIEGERT: Go back to the clothes, he said that those were whose clothes?
WIEGERT: Do you want to take a little break, get a soda? You need something to
drink?
BRENDAN: NO.
BRENDAN: NO.
WIEGERT: I'd like to take a little break, would you mind if we took a five minute
break, is that OK, if you just sit here and relax for a bit?
BRENDAN: OK.
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FASSBENDER: When we come back, would you mind ah writing out a statement for us?
We may even write it for you if you want, but we prefer you write it out
for us, OK?
FASSBENDER: Take a short break. I got Brendan a Pepsi and just to recover a little.
WIEGERT: It is now 1330 hours and Brendan you remember you are not under arrest,
right? You can stop answering questions at any time. Right? Yes?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: And you can walk out anytime you want. Right?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: You feel a little bit better that you got this out?
WIEGERT: Did you tell anybody else about this Brendan? Nobody?
FASSBENDER: Brendan. We asked right before we, we gave you your break, we asked
you if you would write out a statement for this and you said yes. Is that still true?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: OK. We're gonna ask that you do that then and Mark's brought some
statement forms and he's gonna to explain that to you and ah, we're going to ask you to pretty
much write what you told us and what you saw and then make sure above everything else it's the
truth. OK. Cuz you can imagine that people may try to question you on that. So just make sure
it's the truth and you have nothing to worry about. OK?
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BRENDAN: OK.
WIEGERT: I just had a quick question, Brendan. Everything you told us prior to this
about Steve and the body and the car. What day was that? Do you remember?
BRENDAN: OK.
WIEGERT: I'm gonna give you this statement form here. It's pretty self-explanatory.
I'm, I'm gonna let you use the pen there. You put the date in here. We'll just go line by line.
WIEGERT: Twenty-seventh.
FASSBENDER: Seventh.
WIEGERT: And the place where we're at right now (pause) which is Mishicot High
School. The time you start this willbe 1333. OK that's close enough. Actually let's circle. Is it
a.m. or p.m.? p.m. OK. And then print your name, it says I, the undersigned. Print your name
with middle initial.
WIEGERT: Um, not cur, I don't, I don't remember. It's been a long time since I've
had school. Instead of, instead of writing it
WIEGERT: Print it
WIEGERT: long time .... in school. You have kids. What's your middle initial? Put
that in there. OK. And then your home address? We'll put your phone number in there. How
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old you are and what's your date of birth. What do hereby make this following statement to,
we'll put it ah, Investigator, and I'll spell my last name for you.
WIEGERT: You can write right over the other writing. It's not a problem. First
identified himself as, ah we identified ourselves as what, before. Detectives?
WIEGERT: D.E.T.E.C.T.I.V.E.S. And we'll just go down to this line, and we're just
gonna have you write in there exactly what you told us before. OK. And I think you should starl
out with, and this is totally up to you how you want to do it, but maybe start out with when you
got off the bus and then what did you see when you walked home. And then what did you do?
OK? And what date it was. Put on there like on this date I saw this.
(Pause)
WIEGERT: Take as much time as and as much space as you need. There's a lot of
pages there.
FASSBENDER: You can just tear that top sheet off and continue on the second ....
WIEGERT: What's that? You're done. OK. Can I take a look at it? OK. Tell you
what I'll do is I'11just read it and then you tell me if that's what you want in there. OK. You,
you've written this yourself Brendan? Is that true? Yes or no?
BRENDAN: Yes.
WIEGERT: OK, then I'm just going to read it and read what you wrote' OK?
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Is I got off the bus at 3:45 and seen her jeep down at Steven's house. Then I went in my house
and played Playstation 2 for three hours and then I eat at 8:00 and I watch TV and then got a
phone call from Steven, if I wanted to come over to have a fire and I did and he told me to bring
the golf cart and I did. So then we went driving around the yard and got to pick up the stuff
around the house. Then we dropped the seats by the fire and went to get the wood and the
cabinet and then went back to throw the seat on the fire and then we waited for it to go down and
throw on the wood and cabinet. Then I seen the toes before we throw the wood and cabinet on
the fire. When we did that he seen me that I seen the toes he told me not to say anything and he
told me that he stabbed her in the stomach in the pit and he took the knife and put it under the
seat in her jeep. Is that your statement Brendan?
BRENDAN: Yes.
WIEGERT: Um, did you want to add anything in there about where he stabbed her and
why he told you he stabbed her?
WIEGERT: angry
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Did you wanna add that into your statement? Yes or no?
BRENDAN: Yes.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: We both may ask you some questions like that ah and then ah, you want to
add it to your statement, you can do so. Based on what you told us there some things that we
feel you should probably add to your statement, but that's up, that's up to you.
BRENDAN: NO.
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WIEGERT: No?
WIEGERT: And you told me before that he said he did something else to her, you said
he tied her up and he stabbed her in the truck. Is that right?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Rope
FASSBENDER: Rope
BRENDAN: ....
WIEGERT: No.
(pause)
FASSBENDER: You told us that he talked to you about not talking and that he threatened
you. That would probably be a good thing to add to your statement if you'd like, specifically
what he said to you.
(pause)
WIEGERT: You also told us that he said she was pretty. Do you wanna add that in
the statement? Yes or no?
BRENDAN: Yes.
(pause)
FASSBENDER: Brendan, I think you did a real good job about writing. You were, you
were a little more detailed about what you saw in the fire and it was getting very difficult to write
that, but I think it's important that you write not to just to tell what us the things that you saw in
the fire about her and the clothing. Is that all right?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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(pause)
FASSBENDER: Brendan, I just got a question and I think Mark's gonna have some too.
We didn't ask this before. Did he say anything about cutting her up or anything like that or did
he put her body in there whole. ......?
FASSBENDER: Brendan, you told us earlier that what you saw was the whole body right?
OK. Could you indicate that the body appeared to be whole or however you want to put it in
your words. And where it was located, you had said under certain items.
(pause)
WIEGERT: Did he say where he got the knife from, Brendan? Or who's knife it was?
Did he say where he got it from? No?
BRENDAN: NO.
WIEGERT: When he was telling you about how he stabbed her, was he laughing,
enjoying it, or how was he putting it to you.
WIEGERT: Did he say he was sorry or anything? He just stared at the ground. Is that
what you said? Yes or no.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: Another thing that you had talked to us about is where he put the vehicle
pit and what he did to the vehicle. He talked about how he hid it. Could you add that?
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BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: OK. Now let me read, this would be page two that you added here. Is that
correct Brendan?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: He was angry and that's why he did it. He told me he used rope to tie her
up in the jeep and that's when he stabbed her. When he told me not to say anything, he
threatened me a little bit. He said that she was pretty to him. I seen the fingers and the belly and
the forehead in the fire. The body looked like it was together and it was under some tires and
branches. He hid the vehicle in the pit back in the tree area.
WIEGERT: Can you, if you wish, add in there how he hid the vehicle? Did he put
something on top of it? And if he did, what did he put on top of it?
(pause)
FASSBENDER: Then you told us that he put some clothing on there. Can you add what
you saw as it relates to that clothing? What you told us.
(pause)
WIEGERT: OK, I'm gonna take that again and I'm gonna read what you just added
Brendan. Is that okav?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: He hid the vehicle in the pit back in the tree area. He put some tree
branches on the top of it and put the car hood on the top of it too. He put some clothes in the fire
that was blue shirt and some pants.
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BRENDAN: Blood
FASSBENDER: You must have talked about something else .........1o that shirl.
WIEGERT: Did he tell you who's shirt it was? Whose pants it was?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Teresa's
WIEGERT: OK.
(pause)
FASSBENDER: Did he tell ya anything about a, a, any of her other possessions like I
imagine a woman would have a purse, she probably had her cell phone, a camera to take
pictures. Did he tell you what he did with those things?
BRENDAN:
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: What about, like the key to her car and stuff like that ....in there? OK.
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: Let me just read this last part that you added to the statement. OK.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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WIEGERT: Some clothes in the fire pit that was a blue shirt and some pants. On the
shirt there was a blood on it and there was a hole in it in the stomach area and he said it was
Teresa's shirt.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: Is there anything that you haven't told us that you think you need to tell
us? That he said or that you saw.
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: You mentioned when he was up in there . that, that ah, he wanted to
hide or leave and he that he said something to the effect, you said that he just wanted to go and
get out of there and ..........get far away as he could, right? Would itbe all right if you added
that?
WIEGERT: OK.
(pause)
BRENDAN: . ....finished.
WIEGERT: Let me take a look at it, if I could. I'm gonna continue reading what
Brendan just added.
WIEGERT: He said he was going to go and leave the house and try to get as far as far
as he could.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: Brendan, this is your statement, the written part of it. I'm mean obviously
we recorded you and have taken notes. Is there any.thing you want to add to that statement on,
on how you felt during all this, how you feel. Feel free to add anything you want as it relates to
that.
WIEGERT: Do you want to add anything? OK. (pause) Feel free to go to the next
page if you have to.
(pause)
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WIEGERT: oK, I'm gonna read to what you just added to the second page.
WIEGERT: I felt sad that I had to be there and to be sorry for her family.
WIEGERT: Brendan, did we promise you anything prior to writing this statement?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: That I could leave whenever, whenever I wanted, and I didn't have to
answer any questions.
WIEGERT: Risht.
BRENDAN: No.
(side one of tape ended, tape tumed over for side two)
BRENDAN: Yes.
WIEGERT: OK.
(pause)
WIEGERT: I, I'll read what you added to the statement. Is that okay?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: I make this statement and I did not set threatened to write it out and I
What is that word?
BRENDAN: Could
WIEGERT: and I could leave when I wanted to and I didn't have to answer any
questions.
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: OK. What I'm gonna have you do Brenden, I'm gonna have you number
the pages. This would be number one and the next page would be number two and then I'm
gonna have you sign here. It says signature of person giving voluntary statement. If you could
sign there' And I guess you could use script on this one. I've learned somethins new mvself
today.
BRENDAN: Cursive
FASSBENDER: Cursive
WIEGERT: Cursive, is that what it was? All right. And then I'm going to sign it here
and Tom will sign it there. I don't know where I got script from.
FASSBENDER: Brendan, before I neglect to do this, I want to say that I'm extremely
proud of you and what, what you did had to be very, very difficult and you're one hell of a kid
because that had ta be the hardest thing you probably ever done in your life and I don't know if I
could even feel what you hadda just do and I, I truly believe you're one hell of a kid. And you
need to believe that too, okay, no matter what anyone says.
WIEGERT: And that goes for both of us. we both believe that.
FASSBENDER: You told the truth. That's very hard for you to do.
WIEGERT: Do you feel better that you got that off your chest a little bit?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: I need to ask you one more question. We asked you before if you had told
anyone about this. I think you need to really, you need to be honest
one more time for me. Did
you tell vour mom?
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BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Because everything you've told us today obviously can be used in court.
You understand that. risht?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: And people are gonna look at your statement and stuff like that and
they're gonna do some diggin' of their own and stuff and if they find out that you didn't tell us
the truth about somethin' in all likelihood, you're gonna hear about it. You understand that. So
you need to tell us everything now so there are no surprises and no secrets. Understand?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: You hang out with, I know one kid in particular, who's that?
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: During the last several months were you afraid that Steven was gonna get
out?
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FASSBENDER: No. If ah, now that you've made this statement, are you afraid that he
would get out, for your own safety?
FASSBENDER: I know but if he did would, because of what he said to you, would you be
afraid?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: OK. Do you, um, why, I don't think we really have much choice, I think
that I'm gonna do it no matter what you say. We need to call your mom, because I think she
needs to be here, ah, t-to take you home.
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: I think maybe you wanna go home and rest a little bit. This couldn't a
been easy. Well I'll tell you what, I need you to sign the second page. We'll call your ma and
have her come here. OK?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: At 12:17.
WIEGERT: 12:17.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: We have no problem with that. Are you all right? You all right? You're
not gonna do anything to yourself or hurt yourself or anything like that. Right?
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FASSBENDER: Brendan, look at me. You all right? OK. You understand that we do
need to talk to you're mom though. To let her know. So she can talk to you about this and you
can talk to her or your dad, I don't care who, one of, one of your, one of your parents. Would
you prefer your mom or your dad?
BRENDAN: My mom.
FASSBENDER: OK.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Five.
WIEGERT: Five.
FASSBENDER: What's that number? Do you have her work phone number or her cell
phone number?
FASSBENDER: Nine?
BRENDAN: 1140.,.
WIEGERT: Woodland Face Veneer. That's in Two Rivers, right? Could you put the
date in there again?
WIEGERT: Good job. Do you have any questions, buddy? You sure? About how
anything's gonna go or anything like that er. If you have any questions, now is a good time.
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FASSBENDER: Anytime, I want you to take those cards with ya. Anytime you do, you
give us, either of us, a call. ......you to talk.
WIEGERT: I'm gonna, I'm gonna put my cell phone number on here, OK? But you
gotta do me a favor. You can't give thatta anybody else except your mom if she wants it. OK?
I answer that24 hours a day, seven days a week, so if it's tonight at 3:00 in the moming and you
can't sleep and you need somebody to talk to or if you forgot to tell me something or if you just
need someone to talk to, you call me. If it's Saturday night, 8:00 at night needing someone to
talk to, you call me. Anytime of the day or night, OK? If you just need somebody to come pick
Ya uP, give you a ride somewhere, get you out of the house, I'd be willing to do that for ya too,
OK? Thal's yours and this is Tom's. Do you have any questions? OK. Should we let you go
back to 8"'hour class. is that what vou wanna do?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: This is yours. I don't know if you throw it in your locker or whatever, but
you're obviously free to take this so again, um, again we're, we're not gonna leave ya high and
dry. We'll talk to your mom about this we wanna be there if ya need something. If you feel you
need to talk to someone, counseling or anything like that, a counselor, there's nothin' wrong with
that. Absolutely nothin' wrong with that. OK? You let her know and you call us.
BRENDAN: OK.
WIEGERT: Do you feel like you wanna hurt yourself or anything at this time? No?
oK.
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I then requested BRENDAN to fill out a written statement which BRENDAN did and signed
both of the written statements. It should be noted there are two pages of written statements.
After BRENDAN finished with the written statement, Special Agent FASSBENDER contacted
BRENDAN's mother, BARBARA, and requested that she come to the high school to meet with
us. It should be noted that BRENDAN requested that he be able to go back to his eighth hour
class, which he was allowed to do. BRENDAN's mother, BARBARA, did show up at the school
at which time an interview was conducted with BARBARA. For more information on that
interview, please see Special Agent FASSBENDER's report.
At approximately 1500 hours, BRENDAN did return to the conference room. We then asked
BARBARA and BRENDAN if they would be willing to go to TWO RIVERS POLICE DEPT.
with us to do a second videotaped interview. Both BRENDAN and BARBARA agreed. We then
gave them a ride to the TWO RIVERS POLICE DEPT. We arrived at the TWO RIVERS
POLICE DEPT. at approximately 1515 hours. Upon arrival at the police department, we asked
BRENDAN and BARBARA if BRENDAN would like BARBARA to sit in the room during the
interview and also asked BARBARA if she wished to sit in the interview. BARBARA stated
that it was not necessary for her to sit in the interview room, and BRENDAN stated he did not
care if his mother was there or not.
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At approximately 1521 hours, Special Agent FASSBENDER and I met with BRENDAN alone
in the interview room at TWO RIVERS POLICE DEPT. Prior to speaking with BRENDAN, we
did read him his Miranda Rights from a waiver form that was provided to us by TWO RIVERS
POLICE DEPT. BRENDAN agreed to waive his rights and speak with us and signed the
Miranda form. It should be noted that I did read him the Miranda form and explained it to him.
BRENDAN did initial both areas of the Miranda form. A copy of that form will be included
with this report.
At that time, we did begin interviewing BRENDAN and informed him that the interview was
being taped. For more information on the second interview of BRENDAN, please see the
videotape.
After finishing the interview with BRENDAN, we did take BRENDAN back to the MISHICOT
FIRE STATION where we met with several other detectives. We did make arrangements for
BARBARA and BRENDAN to stay at FOX HILLS RESORT on the nisht of 02 127106 for their
safety.
Investigation continues.
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WIEGERT: All right, Brendan, um, one thing I'm going to ask you to do is when we
start talking, you're going to have to speak up right now like I am so the mikes, they won't pick
up real well. But before we ask any question Brendan, um, I have to read you your rights. It's
just what we have to do ...steps OK. Before we ask you any questions you must understand
your rights. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in
court. You have the right to, you have the right to talk, to a lawyer for advice before we ask you
any questions and have him with you during questioning. You have this right to the advice and
presence of a lawyer even though you cannot afford to hire one. We have no way of getting you
a lawyer but one will be appointed for you if you wish and if and when you go to court. If you
wish to answer questions now without a lawyer present, you have the right to stop answering
questions any time. You also have the right to stop answering questions at any time until you
talk to a lawyer. I have read the above statement of my rights I understand what my rights are, I
am willing to answer questions and to make statements. I do not want a lawyer. I understand
and know what I am doing. No promises or threats have been made to me and no pressure of
any kind has been used against me. Do you agree with that?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Yes?
BRENDAN: Yes.
WIEGERT: Then if you agree with making a statement, I need you to sign right there
and if you wanna read it, you can read it there. (pause) Why don't you put your initials here and
put your initials here. These are the two things I read to you. (pause) OK, and I'm just going to
put the place up here, Two Rivers Police Department, and the date is 2127106, and the time is
approximately 3:21p.m. OK. Let's put that over there for now. Um, Brendan, just a few things.
OK, we're going to talk about what you had initially told us earlier, OK. Um, can you state your
full name with middle initial and date of birth?
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BRENDAN: 16
BRENDAN: Wisconsin.
WIEGERT: OK. Um, Brendan do you know the difference between a truth and a lie?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: The truth is something that is, like somethin' that's true, like something
that really happened.
WIEGERT: OK. And you have to speak up again OK? And what's a lie?
WIEGERT: OK. So if I said that I was wearing a red shirt, would that be a truth or a
lie?
BRENDAN: A lie.
WIEGERT: And if I said that Tom has a green tie on, is that a truth or a lie.
BRENDAN: Truth.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: And if we ask you something you don't know the answer to, just tell us
you don't know.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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WIEGERT: Your mom and your three brothers? What are your three brothers' names?
Blaine, Bobby and Bryan.
BRENDAN: Steven.
BRENDAN: Averv.
BRENDAN: My uncle.
WIEGERT: OK. Well what we want to talk to you about Brendan, like we had talked
OK. Do you remember that day?
about before, is October 31't of 2005.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: OK. Tell us about that day when you came home from school, OK? Let's
start with when you came home from school. How did you get home from school?
BRENDAN: I got off the bus at 3:45 and I walked, I seen a jeep down by our house and
I went into my house and I played Playstation2 for two hour, three hours. I ate at 8:00 and I got
a phone from Steven, a phone call from Steven and he asked me if I wanted ta go to the bonfire
next to Dassey's garage and I said yeah and then he told me to bring the golf cart over so I did
and then he drove us, drove me around to find some stuff and I got the van seat and some wood
and I seen her toe when I, when we dropped the, the seat off and later on, I seen her forehead and
her belly.
WIEGERT: OK. I'm just gonna stop you there. You said when you got home, you
saw her jeep. Whose jeep was that do you think?
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BRENDAN: Her's.
WIEGERT: OK. So then you went outside later on that night after you got a call from
Steven you said?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: At 9:30.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: OK, and was there a fire going already at that time?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Steven
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: OK. So from there you said you went and got some things. What kind of
things did you get?
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BRENDAN: we picked 'em up with our hands and put 'em in a golf cart.
WIEGERT: OK, now you said before you saw something in the fire. What did you
see?
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: OK. Had Steven brought something out to tend the fire with at all?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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FASSBENDER: OK.
WIEGERT: Did you see anything else in the fire besides toes?
WIEGERT: Did it look like she was in one piece, or did it look like she was chopped
up, or what did it look like?
WIEGERT: When you say you saw her belly, how do you know it was her bellyll
WIEGERT: Who had been in the, if I had you draw a picture, could you draw like that
pit area and kinda draw in what you saw and where you saw it? OK. How about if I do that
now. I'll give you a pen.
FASSBENDER: BehindSteven'sgarage?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
(pause)
WIEGERT: OK, put, um an llwhere his house would be and G where his garage
would be. So what you drew here, can you just explain what you drew here?
BRENDAN: That she's covered with some branches and her, tires.
WIEGERT: Where were you standing when you saw her? Put anXthere.
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WIEGERT: And could you put your, your initials so I know that's you. And maybe
anotherXwhere he was standins.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: And then you guys put more stuff on the fire?
FASSBENDER: OK, and how was it that you were able to see her. Were things moved
around or ifjust when the fire went down?
WIEGERT: So, explain to me what you mean he moved it around. Tell me what you
mean.
WIEGERT: Do you think you can demonstrate for us what you saw him do?
WIEGERT: OK. And when he did that what did you see?
BRENDAN: He went over, he went into the garage, I went to his house and got the
garbage bags. Right before that we stuck, that was before he stuck the other stuff on there.
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WIEGERT: Did you guys talk about what you saw in there?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: I seen it and he said, he told, he seen me see it so he told me not to say
somethin' or else it will, he threatened me a little bit.
FASSBENDER: What else did he tell you about what you saw.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you. Could you say that one more time. With
his what?
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Did he tell you anlhing about what happened to her prior to that?
BRENDAN: That he tied her up in her jeep thing and stabbed her in the stomach.
BRENDAN: Then he put the knife under the seat and tried to hide the jeep.
FASSBENDER: Did he tell you what he did to try and hide it?
FASSBENDER: You mentioned a sled. Is that a sled that you pull behind something?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Do you know what he pulled the sled with when he took it over there or
did he just pull it himself.
BRENDAN: uh uh.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: The shirt was blue and the pants were I don't know.
FASSBENDER: What did they, what did they look like when, what gender clothing would
they have been?
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: And you said something about blood on 'em, on what article of clothing
was the blood on?
FASSBENDER: And you said there was a hole in the shirt. About where was that?
WIEGERT: Could you just point out where it would have been, like on your shirt?
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: OK.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: That I've been sad for the last three. four months.
BRENDAN: I thought,ftu, fr. didn't do it and felt sorry for Teresa's family.
WIEGERT: Did you have anything to do with the disappearance of Teresa Halbach?
BRENDAN: No.
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BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Did he say anything about sexual assault with, with her or having sex with
her.
BRENDAN: No.
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BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: So just so I'm clear on this. Where did he say that he stabbed her?
WIEGERT: And that occurred where? Outside? Inside? In the truck? Where?
WIEGERT: The jeep. (pause) Do you remember what color the pants were?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Blue.
WIEGERT: What was it, a T-shirt or a buttom-up shirt or what type of shirt?
WIEGERT: What about shoes. Did vou see anv shoes at all?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: When you saw her in the fire did she have shoes on?
BRENDAN: No.
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FASSBENDER: Was there still skin on there, on her toes and feet?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: So just that I'm clear on this. He told you who it was?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Were you scared when you saw what you saw?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: No.
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BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: Did he tell you how he got the truck back into the pit?
WIEGERT: You told me before that he. he told you that he stabbed her in the stomach.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: In the jeep. And where was the jeep when he did that?
WIEGERT: Do you know how he got her from the pit up to the fire pit?
BRENDAN: Bv a sled.
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: And you told me before that he told you he tied her up?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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BRENDAN: Rope.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: I can imagine. And there's no doubt in your mind what you saw in that
fire? Pardon?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: You know that that was a human body in the fire.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: When Steven was up north with you that week or at the end of that week
that next weekend and the police came up there, what did he say?
BRENDAN: He said that he was gonna try to get a car, try to drive as far as he can to
get away.
FASSBENDER: OK. Has he said anything else to you since that night?
BRENDAN: No.
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FASSBENDER: When we wanted to talk to you and stuff, did he say anything to you about
what you should say?
BRENDAN: That I shouldn't talk because his lawyer told me, told him not to talk to the
cops.
FASSBENDER: Has he threatened you since that night or told you not to say anything or
anything like that since that night?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER:
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: And then came back in and talked with you a little bit more?
BRENDAN: mm huh.
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WIEGERT: How ya doin'? Hanging in there? All right. We got a few more questions
for ya, OK? Um, do you help him put anything in the garage or take anything out of the garage?
BRENDAN: Yeah, ah, we took the silver cool ah, gray jeep and put it in the garage.
WIEGERT: And where was that located before you put it in the garage?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Jodi
FASSBENDER: Jodi and what's the last time you saw Jodi?
BRENDAN: NO.
FASSBENDER: OK. Has Steven said anything to you about her in any relation ta what he
did?
RRENDAN: NO.
BRENDAN: NO.
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BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: I'm trying to understand what he might have been mad about. Do you
have any idea what he was angy about that day?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: To haul some items around? Whose golf cart were you using?
BRENDAN: My mom's.
BRENDAN: Barb
WIEGERT: Barb
FASSBENDER: So ta understand this, according to Steven and what you just said that
Steven said, he had her down in the pit and then brought her up from the pit and put her in the
fire.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Do you know where he got the rope from to tie her up?
BRENDAN: NO.
FASSBENDER: Could you see that? Could you see that she was tied up or not in the fire?
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BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: No? Cuz now is the time to tell us if there is. Think real hard.
BRENDAN: NO.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: You said you threw some light bags in the fire. What was in those bags?
BRENDAN: Garbase.
FASSBENDER: You said he called you to ask you to come out by the fire. Did he call you
on the phone, or yell in the door, or what?
BRENDAN: 10:30.
BRENDAN: By 1 1:30.
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BRENDAN: Cuz my brother came home and he was still out there.
BRENDAN: Blaine.
BRENDAN: He said that he was standing out there leaning against the shovel. Blaine
just got home from Halloween for trick-or-treating.
BRENDAN: At 11:30
WIEGERT: Do you know what he was going to do with the fire pit?
BRENDAN: He was going ta build up it and then cover it up and start a new one.
WIEGERT: What do you mean build, build up it? What do you mean by that?
WIEGERT: Just explain to me what you mean by build up it and try to make a new
one, was he gonna fill it with dirt or keep burning stuff or exactly what was he gonna do, do you
think? From what did he tell you.
BRENDAN: He was gonna keep on burnin' stuff and then bury it and keep on doing
that.
BRENDAN: Yeah, so that his, his yard would be all flat instead of all lumpy.
WIEGERT: And then he was gonna do what did you say after that?
BRENDAN: He was gonna hide, put the burning pit rr the fire pit behind his house.
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Probably.
BRENDAN: Chuckie.
BRENDAN: NO.
BRENDAN: NO.
BRENDAN: NO.
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BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: The next day would have been what day? Like November?
BRENDAN: l"
WIEGERT: OK. What time did you see Chuckie come down by Steven?
BRENDAN: 5:30.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Ch ah Steven.
WIEGERT: Steven was workine on his Monte? Where was the Monte at that time?
WIEGERT: I thought you told us before that the Suzuki was in the garage. You helped
him push it in there.
WIEGERT: So where was the Suzuki when he was workine on the Monte?
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BRENDAN: mm huh.
WIEGERT: His left arm? OK. I'm sorry. I'm gonna keep tellin' you to speak up a
little bit because its. How did he set that mark?
BRENDAN: Well, he said that he got it from workin' out by the yard, that he cut
himself with glass.
WIEGERT: OK. Did he tell you anything else about that mark?
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: Did he tell you that at any time that he had been injured when he had
killed Teresa?
FASSBENDER: OK.
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Teresa.
WIEGERT: How did that come about? I mean did he say was there a struggle or
something? Or what did he say?
BRENDAN: When he was trying to tie her up, she tried to get out and scratched 'em
tryin' to get away from 'em andshe couldn't so he tied her up and stabbed her.
WIEGERT: Did he say if she was yelling or screaming or anything? Did he say
anything about that?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: When he's telling you about this stuff, what is he doing? Is he laughing?
Or what is he doing?
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BRENDAN: No.
(pause)
BRENDAN: Nothin'
(pause)
WIEGERT: How did you feel about it when realized what it was and he told you what
he did?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Cuz we had a Lincoln for sale and wanted to put it in the book so she
came again.
WIEGERT: Did you ever see her truck before that day?
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: Did you ever go down to the pit to see her truck after he told you where it
was?
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BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: Brendan, you may have answered this, at least indirectly, after you saw
what you saw and Steven told you what he told you, why didn't you go to the police?
BRENDAN: Because I was scared to, that I would get in trouble too.
BRENDAN: No
(pause)
FASSBENDER: If Steven were to get out on bond tomorrow, would you be scared?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Why?
WIEGERT: Why do you think he'd try to kill you though? I mean, what would make
you think he would do that?
BRENDAN: Because he told me not to say nothin' so, and I did, so he would
WIEGERT: Did he say anything else when he was trying to tie her up? You told me
before that she was trying to struggle and get away and that's when he got scratched by her,
right?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: No.
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WIEGERT: Did he say if he took any of her valuables? Any money? Anything like
that?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No
WIEGERT: Whv?
FASSBENDER: Did you ever ask him after that night? Why he did it?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: Is there anything else you want to say Brendan, to the, you know this is
being recorded, to the recording or anything?
, BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: I know this was very difficult and you're a brave boy for doing what you
did.
WIEGERT: Is everything you told Agent Fassbender and myself the truth?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: Have you lied to us at all about anything you told us?
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: I appreciate you being honest, all right? We know this was difficult for
you. Do you have any questions?
BRENDAN: mm uh
WIEGERT: OK. (pause) I'm going to sign this in front of you as a witness though,
OK. Just so you're aware of it. And the date. Wanna put the date in there? And the time.
(pause) Thank you, Brendan.
BRENDAN: No problem.
This is the end of the interview with Brendan Dassey at Two Rivers Police Dept.
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I did respond to the location of TERESA's vehicle with Deputy JEREMY HAWKINS. Other
officers present were Inv. JOHN DEDERING, Sheriff JERRY PAGEL, Inv. WENDY
BALDWIN and Inv. GARY STEIER.
At approximately 1615 hours, Deputy HAWKINS did remove the lock to the door where
TERESA's vehicle was being stored. At approximately 1617 hours, Deputy HAWKINS did
open the front door to TERESA's vehicle and did enter to look under the front seat for the knife.
Deputy HAWKINS informed me he did not locate any knife under the driver's seat of
TERESA's vehicle. We then went to the rear of the vehicle and opened up the latch to the back
of the vehicle and did not observe any knife in the rear portion of TERESA's vehicle. Deputy
HAWKINS also checked under the front passenger seat for a knife and was unable to locate a
knife. All doors to TERESA's vehicle were closed and we did exit the storage facility at 1626
hours.
I then responded to the MISHICOT FIRE DEPARTMENT to meet with Inv. WIEGERT and
other investigators working on this investigation. Upon arriving at the MISHICOT FIRE
DEPARTMENT, I was informed by Inv. WIEGERT that he did wish for me to stay at the fire
department with BARBARA JANDA and her son, BRENDAN DASSEY.
Arrangements were ultimately made for BARBARA JANDA and her son, BRENDAN
DASSEY, to go to FOX HILLS RESORT for the evening. Inv. WIEGERT did transport
BARBARA and her son. BRENDAN. to the FOX HILLS RESORT and I did follow. A room
was secured at the FOX HILLS RESORT for BARBARA and BRENDAN until interviews could
be completed by the investigators.
Inv. DEDERING did telephone me and did request that I ask BRENDAN if he observed
STEVEN AVERY's burn barrel burning on Halloween night in 2005. Inv. DEDERING also
requested that I ask BRENDAN if he saw STEVEN with an edged weapon or if he had seen him
shoot a .22 caliber gan.
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Upon speaking with BRENDAN, I asked him if he observed STEVEN's burn barrel buming on
Halloween night or the next day and BRENDAN informed me he did not recall that.
BARBARA also informed me she could not recall if the bum barrel was buming on Halloween
night or the next day.
I asked BRENDAN if had seen STEVEN with an edged weapon on that evening and
BRENDAN told me he did not. I asked BRENDAN if he had ever seen STEVEN shoot a .22
caliber gun and BRENDAN told me he did not recall at any time seeing STEVEN shoot a
firearm.
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I informed BRYAN of the information that BRENDAN had said about the night of 10/31/05. I
gave BRYAN details on what BRENDAN had seen in the fire and the comments that STEVEN
had made to him that night. I asked BRYAN if he could again explain his activities on 10/31/05.
BRYAN said the night before he had slept by his girlfriend's house and went from there to work.
BRYAN said he was home by 5:00 and that BOBBY, BLAINE and BRENDAN were home at
the time. He doesn't remember exactly what they were doing but may have been playing video
games. BRYAN said he took a shower and got ready to go by his girlfriend's house. He said he
overheard BRENDAN talking with STEVEN about needing some help doing something.
Between 6:30 and 7:00, BRYAN said he left to go by his girlfriend's house. Prior to leaving,
BRYAN did notice that there was smoke coming from behind STEVEN's garage but did not
think much of it.
I asked BRYAN how many times STEVEN has bumed in that pit and he said about once to
twice a month. BRYAN said the reason why he did not think anything of it was because
JOSHUA RADANDT, the owner of the gravel pit, was clearing brush and STEVEN had offered
to bum that for him. BRYAN went on to say that the entire evening he had spent with his
girlfriend and he then went to work the next day and did not retum home.
BRYAN described STEVEN as always having a bad temper and it seemed to him that he was
getting more angry about the business and activities in the yard. BRYAN said STEVEN had told
him, "He could kill someone and get away with it." BRYAN said STEVEN also made
comments about stealing from people and nobody would know that he did.
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I asked BRYAN who he had thought STEVEN was the closest with in the family and he had said
probably us because we would take care of him. STEVEN, however, did not like EARL and
threatened to "kick his ass" because of the turmoil with the business in the yard.
I asked BRYAN if he could remember anything strange that had stuck out in his mind during
that time or after Halloween. He said the incident when BOBBY had hung the deer in his mom's
garage. BRYAN said he did not hear it directly from STEVEN, however, BOBBY had told him
a couple of months ago when BOBBY and his friend, MICHAEL OSMUNSON, were hanging
the deer, STEVEN made the comment that he needed help getting rid of a body.
BRYAN also said the weekend they went up north STEVEN was acting quite strange. This
would have been the weekend of November 4,2005. They had planned three or four days in
advance to go up north that weekend. BRYAN said STEVEN was acting very odd and that he
was looking down a lot, that he may have done something and he said he did not feel good and
had a headache. BRYAN said STEVEN never was one to lie down and complain he did not feel
good; even with a headache, he would go out and work. BRYAN said it seemed like once they
got up north he fell apart and he was not acting himself. BRYAN said when they were in the
back wooded area building the cabin, EARL had his flatbed truck in that area with the scanner.
CHARLES had overheard that Marinette County was coming to their property and STEVEN
panicked and jumped in his truck and BRYAN said he "hauled ass" to the cabin with
CHARLES. BRYAN said when they got back, STEVEN seemed very panicked and that he was
going to take off. BRYAN said his grandfather told him if he didn't do anything, that you should
not run. BRYAN said, however, STEVEN looked panicked and had wanted to run away.
BRYAN said he could not recall any activity after that because he had stayed by his girlfriend's
house during the time the police were doing the Search Warrants.
I provided BRYAN with my business card and advised him in case he happened to remember
anything, to contact me. The interview was concluded approximately 2037 hours.
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While waiting for other members of the interview team to arrive, I did assist Inv. BALDWN
with an interview of BARBARA JANDA. For details of this, please see the report of Inv.
BALDWIN.
Special Agent MICHAEL SASSE and I did locate BOBBY DASSEY at the residence of
DUANE OSMI--rNSON, 5017 Nuclear Rd. in the Mishicot area at 1955 hrs. SASSE and I asked
BOBBY DASSEY if he had some time to speak with us and he indicated that he did. We then
went out to the county vehicle, which I was operating, and BOBBY DASSEY did have a seat in
the front passenger side and Special Agent SASSE climbed into the rear passenger side. Prior to
asking DASSEY any questions, he was advised that he was not under arrest, did not have to
answer questions if he chose not to and was free to leave at anytime he so wished. I asked him to
open the passenger front door of the vehicle in order to demonstrate to him that he was perfectly
free to leave. He understood this and agreed to answer questions.
We went over his activities to the best of his recollection on Monday,10131/05. He stated that
he arrived home from work at approximately 0630 hrs (It should be noted that DASSEY was
employed at FISHER HAMILTON in Two Rivers at this time) and went to bed. He stated that
he got up between 1400 and 1430 hrs., got into the shower and went bow hunting. He stated he
arrived home somewhere approximately 1730 hrs. and that it was dark out already. He stated he
did not recall who was home when he arrived, but thought perhaps BRENDAN was. He stated
that when he arrived home, he went straight to bed and did not eat. He stated he got up at
approximately 2100 hrs., got ready for work and once again did not eat. He stated that to the
best of his recollection, BLAINE was home and possibly BRENDAN as well. He stated that his
other brother BRYAN was not at home and was possibly at his girlfriend's residence.
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BOBBY indicated that when he was leaving for work at approximately 2130 hrs., he noticed that
STEVEN was having a bonfire. He estimated that the flames were five to six feet in height. He
stated that it was a good-sized fire and that STEVEN has had fires there in the past. He stated
that he could not say for sure that STEVEN was tending to the fire and he was further unsure
whether BRENDAN was there or not. He stated that the view from his residence to the fire pit is
somewhat blocked by the garage of STEVEN AVERY.
He stated that he worked from 2200 hrs. until 0600 hrs. the following day and when he arrived
home, he noticed nothing unusual and that the fire was out.
I asked BOBBY if his brother, BRENDAN, was one to lie about things and he stated that
BRENDAN would possibly lie about little things. I asked him if BRENDAN would lie about
anything concerning the HALBACH murder investigation, and he stated that he would not lie
about this.
I asked BOBBY if he has noticed any changes in BRENDAN and his response was "not really."
When I asked him if BRENDAN has been depressed recently, he stated that he was a little
depressed.
BOBBY indicated that BRENDAN has not discussed anything regarding what he may have seen
in the fire pit on 10/31/05 or what STEVEN may have told BRENDAN.
BOBBY indicated that his brother, BRENDAN, likes to play basketball games and racing games
on their Playstation 2. He states that he does not play with others, but prefers to compete by
himself on the machine.
I asked BOBBY if he could recall once again what he saw regarding TERESA HALBACH and
her vehicle. He stated that while he was preparing to go bow hunting on 10/31/05, he observed
TERESA's vehicle pull in and he observed TERESA get out and take one or two photos of the
maroon van, which his mother had for sale. BOBBY said that this was prior to him getting into
the shower. He stated that when he got out of the shower (approximately ten minutes later) he
brought his bow out to the vehicle and TERESA's vehicle was still there but he did not see her.
He stated that she was wearing a black coat, black trousers and he cannot recall what color her
top was.
DASSEY drew me a diagram indicating that the HALBACH vehicle was pointed in a westerly
direction almost directly across from the westernmost portion of the BARBARA JANDA
circular driveway.
BOBBY stated that the vehicle was sone when he sot back from huntine.
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I asked BOBBY about the position of the Suzuki Samurai. BOBBY thought that to his best
recollection, the Suzuki was in the garage for a while, and he was unsure when STEVEN moved
it out of the garage. He stated that he was never in the garage when the Suzuki was parked in the
garage and he stated that he could no longer independently recall where the Suzuki was
positioned when he left for hunting.
I asked BOBBY DASSEY who his brother, BRENDAN, might confide in and he indicated the
only person he could think of was BRENDAN's friend, TRAVIS FABIAN, whose father,
ROBERT FABIAN, is a friend of EARL AVERY.
I asked BOBBY if he could recall the bum barrel in front of STEVEN's residence burnine when
he left for hunting, and he stated he could not independently recall this.
Agent SASSE asked BOBBY DASSEY if he could ever recall STEVEN AVERY shooting a .22
at the burn barrel or anything else in the immediate vicinity of STEVEN AVERY's residence.
BOBBY indicated he could not recall anything like this except for one occasion.
SASSE asked DASSEY if he could recall STEVEN AVERY in possession of a buck knife or a
leatherman and BOBBY DASSEY could not recall that.
BOBBY DASSEY indicated that he doesn't recall BRENDAN or STEVEN acting any
differently after the October 31't. incident. He further indicated he could not recall any sort of
injury to STEVEN's arms or hands on October 31't.
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On02128106, I (DEDERING), along with other members of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF,s
DEPT., did remove the two bottom seat cushions from the front portion of TERESA
HALBACH's RAV4. This activity took place at the CALUMET CO. HIGHWAY DEPT. SHOP
located on Chestnut St. in Chilton. TERESA's vehicle had been removed from a storage facility
in the Chilton area and transported to the highway shop by SCOTT's TOWING. I personally did
remove the two bottom seat cushions as well as areas of carpeting and insulation material from
the front passenger portion of the Toyota RAV4. The carpet and insulation were located
immediately under the two lower front seat cushions. For details concemins times on this
activity, please see the report of Inv. WIEGERT.
Investigation continues.
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On02128106, I (Inv. WIEGERT), along with Inv. DEDERING, Inv. STEIER and Set.
TYSON
went to the storage area where TERESA HALBACH's vehicle is stored.
At approximately 1229 hours, the storage shed was opened by Sgt. TYSON and her vehicle was
loaded on a flatbed from SCOTT'S TOWING.
At 1238 hours, we arrived at the highway shop and the vehicle was placed into the highway
shop
and kept in our presence. It should be noted there was nobody frornthe highway aepartment
allowed in the area in which the examination was to occur. It should be noted that upon arrival
at the highway shop, we were joined by Assistant District Attomey FROEHLICH. Inv.
DEDERING then removed the driver's seat bottom portion. The driver's seat was placed on a
clean, unused tarp.
At approximately 1319 hours, the carpet area undemeath the front seat was also taken out.
At1415 hours, the front passenger lower portion of the seat was also removed by Inv.
DEDERING
At 1420 hours, we did locate a band-aid underneath the front passenger seat. That band-aid was
collected and photographed.
At 1422 hours, Inv. DEDERING did cut out the passenger side carpet.
At 1427 hours, the carpet pad from the driver's seat was also removed and placed on the clean,
unused tarp. It should be noted I did photograph the entire inside of the vehicle from both the
driver's side and the front passenger side.
At l44l hours, we did reseal all of the doors and entry points on the vehicle with evidence tape
and the evidence tape was initialed by me.
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At 1455 hours, SCOTT'S TOWING did arrive back at the highway department garage where the
truck was loaded back on the flatbed and taken back to unit #7 . It should be noted we arrived
back at the storage shed at 1504 hours and the door was opened by Sgt. TYSON.
At 1517 hours, the RAV4 was placed back in the storage shed.
At 1518 hours, the storage shed was secured and we did leave the area and went back to the
sheriff s department along with all the items that were removed from the RAV4.
The following is a list of items that were removed and placed into evidence:
l. Under Property Tag#9073, one band-aid located under the front passenger seat of the
RAV4
2. Under Property Tag#9074, carpet, which was removed from the RAV4 under the
passenger seat
3. Under Property Tag#9075, insulation, which was located under the carpet from the area
under the passenger seat
4. Under Property Tag#9076, carpet, which was taken from underneath the driver' seat
5. Under Property Tag#9077, carpet insulation from the RAV4 removed from undemeath
the driver's seat
6. Under Property Tag#9078, lower portion of the passenger seat from the RAV4
7. Under Property Tag#9079, lower portion of driver's seat from the RAV4.
All items were transporled back to the sheriff s department and secured in the evidence room.
Investigation continues.
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Item EJ, had one piece of charred skull that was labeled suspected entrance defect. Elemental
analysis was performed on the suspected entrance defect and other areas of the charred
bone.
Traces of lead metal were detected on one area of the exterior surface of the suspected entrance
defect. The source of the lead metal could not be determined
For more information on this, please see the Laboratory Findings report, which will be included
with this.
Investigation continues.
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on 03/01/06 approximately 9:50 a.m., I (Inv. MARK WIEGERT of the CALUMET co.
SHERIFF'S DEPT.) along with Special Agent TOM FASSBENDER from the DEpT. OF
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION at Agent FASSBENDER did contact BARB JANDA who
would be BRENDAN's mother on her cell phone. Agent FASSBENDER requested BARB,s
permission to speak with BRENDAN. BARB did grant him permission to speak with
BRENDAN. Agent FASSBENDER also informed BARB that we would liki to transport
BRENDAN to the MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. where we could do a taped
interview. Again BARB agreed to allow us to do that.
At approximately 10:00 a.m., we did arrive at the MISHICOT HIGH SCHOOL. We did meet
with the Dean of Students and informed him of our wish to meet with BRENDAN and told him
we had permission to take BRENDAN to the MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. in order
to speak with him.
At approximately 10:05 a.m., BRENDAN did present himself in the office area of the high
school. We asked BRENDAN to then go with us to the squad car, which was parked
immediately in front of the MISHICOT HIGH SCHOOL. At this point an audiotape recording
was activated.
At approximately 10:10 a.m., I did read BRENDAN his Miranda Rights from the Waming and
Waiver of Rights form, which will be included in this report. BRENDAN stated he understood
his rights and also stated that he wished to speak with us. We informed BRENDAN that we
were going to go to the MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT., and BRENDAN agreed with
that decision. It should be noted that BRENDAN did sign the Waiver of Rights form and also
initialed both areas, which I had read to him.
After leaving the high school, we did speak with BRENDAN about a pair ofjeans, which we had
previously learned about that had, what appeared to be, bleach stains on them. We asked
BRENDAN if anybody was at his residence. BRENDAN stated that he did not believe so, but
the residence would be open. We then asked BRENDAN if it would be okay to go to his
residence and retrieve the jeans. BRENDAN agreed to go with us to his residence and retrieve
the jeans.
At approximately 10:18 a.m., we did arrive at BRENDAN's residence on Avery Rd. where
BRENDAN and Agent FASSBENDER went inside the residence. It should be noted at that time
I did receive a phone call and was unable to go into the residence with BRENDAN and Aeent
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FASSBENDER. At approximately 10:21 a.m., Agent FASSBENDER and BRENDAN did come
out of the residence and Agent FASSBENDER had a pair of blue jeans that had several stains on
them, which appeared to be possibly bleach stains. The jeans were put in Agent
FASSBENDER's trunk and secured there.
After leaving BRENDAN's residence, we did go back en route to the MANITOWOC CO.
SHERIFF'S DEPT. It should be noted that while en route to the MANITOWOC CO.
SHERIFF'S DEPT. we did offer to stop for food or drink, however, BRENDAN indicated he did
not wish to do so.
At approximately 10:43 a.m., we did arrive at the MANITOWOC CO. SHERIFF'S DEpT. and
were allowed inside by Detective REMIKER who took us up to an interview room. Upon arrival
in the interview room, I did remind BRENDAN about his Miranda Rights and he indicated he
still wished to speak with us. At this time the audio portion of the recording was turned off
because there was an audio and visual recording that was taking place inside of the interview
IOOm.
The following will be a transcript of the audio and videotaped portion of the interview with
BRENDAN R. DASSEY:
WIEGERT: Brendan, I'm just gonna to read you this form, it's your Miranda Rights
and then we'll talk about that a little bit, OK? The law requires you be advised you of the
following rights:
questioned. If you cannot afford to hire an attomey, one will be appointed to represent
you before any questioning.
WIEGERT: Now you gotta speak up so this thing picks up your voice, OK? I just got
two questions to ask you from there: Do you know and understand each of these rights, your
rights, which I have explained?
BRENDAN: Yeah
BRENDAN: Yeah
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WIEGERT: oK. And I'm gonna have, I'm gonna sign here and I need you to sign by
the X.
(phone rings)
WIEGERT: (apparently speaking on phone) Hello, um, call Dedering, I can,t talk
right now.
WIEGERT: All right, ah, so like I told you, we're going to take a ride over to the a
Manitowoc SherifPs Dept. They've gotta a nice quiet room there, there's no kids running in and
out and stuff, so, and if you play it right, who knows, maybe we'll get you back as soon as we
can. If we, we all get over there as soon as we can. LIm, I'm just gonna have you initial actually
also um here and here, saying that I read you those and then that you agreed to talk with us, OK?
(Pause) All right.
FASSBENDER: I think we told you Brendan, we talked to mom and mom is" is OK with
this and good with this and she just wants to talk to ya when we're, we,re done.
WIEGERT: Um, I just, one question I had for you real quick Brendan is um, those
jeans that Tom had talked to you about the other night with the bleach stains on'em, do you still
have those?
BRENDAN: Yeah
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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BRENDAN: Yeah
BRENDAN: Not that I know of, I think Bobbie was there, but he left.
BRENDAN:
WIEGERT: No?
BRENDAN: Yeah
BRENDAN:
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah
WIEGERT: You give us permission to go in your house and get the jeans?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: OK. Well I'm just gonna make a phone call quick and let one of our guys
know that they can just stop and pick those up, OK.
WIEGERT: Actually, we-we're this close, we could just grab 'em, how's that?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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FASSBENDER: And they could meet us wherever they want to meet us.
WIEGERT: Sure
FASSBENDER: If we need'em.
WIEGERT: We'll just go over and verify that they're there and grab um and ah then
we'll call 'em and tell 'em what they look like and all that so.
BRENDAN: ...
WIEGERT: No?
WIEGERT: So you can get out of school (cough) so you can get outta school. Yeah
(pause) Yeah I remember being your age, waitin' for that snow day. That was a, that was a great
thing.
BRENDAN: No
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: On my gosh.
WIEGERT: During that blizzard, you didn't? You guys had school here?
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BRENDAN: ...
WIEGERT: Really?
WIEGERT: Do you have to ride the bus to school or, that's, that's how you get to
school right?
BRENDAN: Yeah
BRENDAN: He's got his license but he ain't got a car to drive.
BRENDAN:
BRENDAN:
WIEGERT: I'm sure you could find yourself a car out here somewhere.
FASSBENDER: (laugh)
(pause)
WIEGERT: I'll bet you get some drifts in this driveway. huh?
BRENDAN: Yeah
FASSBENDER: At least the holes gettin' filled in with ice. (pause) ..bad in the winter.
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: OK.
(pause)
WIEGERT: oK, we're out of Brendan's residence, um he did give us the jeans
10:21
a.m. Sorry but I gotta nanate for this silly machine here.
BRENDAN: Yeah
FASSBENDER: Jeans were located in the kitchen area atthe kitchen table area.
(pause)
oK, as soon as he's back um cuz we got that stuff. You guys don't need pick
to those jeans up,
we picked 'em up' Yeah. Yup. At Brendan's house. Bindan
gave us permission to go get
'em' he's with us right now, so um, I pretty much got everything
on his voicemail. Tell him to
listen to his cell phone voicemail. An if you guys
Bye.
lot any questions, call me back. Thank you.
WIEGERT: You don't know? oK, let's a, let's go right. Taking the interstate
seems
to take forever. we'll go down to B and then head in on Blthaf s the quiciest
way that I know
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BRENDAN: yeah.
BRENDAN: yeah.
FASSBENDER: I like him. (pause) You go over there quite a bit on the
weekends huh?
Seems like a nice place to be. So how'd the nigf,t go in the motel room.
BRENDAN: pretty good.
WIEGERT: It,s a pretty nice place there, Fox Hills. isn,t it?
BRENDAN: yeah.
WIEGERT: Yeah. (pause) The sky, it looks like it could snow a little
bit today.
FASSBENDER: I'm more worried about the afreezin' rain that's supposed to come in
later. They're sayin' it's supposed to go up to 40 something
today.
BRENDAN: Naw.
BRENDAN: No.
(pause)
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BRENDAN: Once
WIEGERT: Once?
BRENDAN: Sometimes..
BRENDAN:
WIEGERT: yeah.
(pause)
BRENDAN: yeah.
WIEGERT: Pretty good. (pause) I just wanna put a windmill up at my, by my house.
WIEGERT: Probably.
FASSBENDER: So how ya doin' Brendan since ah the last time we talked to you?
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BRENDAN: yeah.
FASSBENDER: oK.
BRENDAN: Talked to my girlfriend like eight hours ..yesterday.
BRENDAN: Manitowoc
WIEGERT: on MSN and on, and on the phone. (pause) you got
anlhing like that? a webcam or
BRENDAN:
WIEGERT: No.
(pause)
WIEGERT: Just keep on going until you get to the stop sign
Do you fish at all?
and tum right. (pause)
BRENDAN: Somewhat.
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WIEGERT: No. Used to be many a weddings there over the years. (pause) What,s
your girlfriend's name?
BRENDAN: Emily
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: No.
FASSBENDER: When's their basketball game? Valders win? Was it yesterday or today?
WIEGERT: Ahhh, yeah they won, I think it was last night. They play, I just heard,
Appleton or a Sheboygan Christians or Sheboygan Christian. I think they piayihem
at home, I
didn't catch the date though.
(pause)
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FASSBENDER: Now, now he's available, where the hell was he?
FASSBENDER: This car will not get an award for quietest car.
WIEGERT: Stay in this lane, jl:t . (pause) ......through the lights (pause)
Now as soon as this car gets by you, you'll wanna g"iin that left lane
and we,ll turn left at the
lights. And you know where we are? It,s right theie, yeah.
WIEGERT: Go up another, ah you coulda turned there, but a, we'll just to up to the
lights and then turn right and come around. (pause) Just go right at
the next, not here iut go over
there, park right in front. (pause) Tum right at the stop-sign
and we can park nght in front.
(pause) Right by the pickup 10:43 a.m., we're gonna go inrlO" and
use an interview room.
(pause) (whistling)
WIEGERT: Um, actually no, I'm here for Det. Remiker, he,s waiting for me now.
FASSBENDER: Does seem like it would have been a lot longer on the Interstate for some
reason.
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WIEGERT: Yeah, well the Interstate kinda goes out away from the lake.
FASSBENDER: yeah.
WIEGERT: OK
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: Pizza?
BRENDAN:
WIEGERT: Yeah
VOICE (Possibly sheriff s andlor Det Remiker): How ya doin"/ How are ya? Behavin,?
Brendan? Brandon?
WIEGERT: Brendan.
VOICE: Brendan
WIEGERT: I'm sorry, let me just scoot through, there you go.
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WIEGERT: Mornin,
VOICE: Momin'
VOICE: Momin,
TINKNOWN
VOICE: Mornin', good to see ya.
WIEGERT: why don't you just, just you have a seat Brendan. Tom
and I just gotta
stop out for a minute and then we,ll be right in,-OK?
(pause)
FASSBENDER: oK.
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(background voices)
(long pause)
BRENDAN: yeah.
WIEGERT: Just so you know. oK. um, I just wanted to just, just
go over this real
quick again' Do you remember these rights,
-
your Miianda Rights ttrat t reaa 6 youz (Brendan
nods "yes")
WIEGERT: oK. Just wanted to make sure of that. (Brendan nods ,,yes,,)
FASSBENDER: We, um
WIEGERT: OK.
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FASSBENDER: and ah, I kinda call it, it's a sense to breathe being in a way, and
I,ll just
let you talk to us a little and um, and, and we've had also a chance
for tiro days now to look at
what you said and' and listen to the to tapes a little and stuff like
that and, and we look at that and
we say' well you know, Brendan gave us, honestly gave us this
information, this information and
that information, maybe I'll call them dots or whatever and some
of the dots when we look at it
say well, I think we need some matching up here, just a little
tightening up or something. We, we
feel that, that maybe, I think Mark and I both feel ihat maybe there's
ulro-" more that you could
tell us, um, that you may have held back for whatever r"uron, and I wanna
assure you that Mark
and I both are in your corner, we're on your side, and you did tell
us yourself that one of the
reasons you hadn't come forward yet was because you're afraid, yorr;r"
scared, and, and one of
the reasons you were scared was that you would be implicated in
this, or people would say that
you helped or did this (Brendan nods ,,yes")
FASSBENDER: oK, and that you might get arrested and stuff like that. oK? And we
understand that. one of the best ways to, ta prove to us or more
importantly, you know, the
courts and stuff is that you tell the whole truth, don't leave anything
out, dotr,imuke anything up
because you're trying to cover something up, a little, um, and .rr.nlf
thore statements are against
your own interest, you know what I mean, that, then makes you might,
i-it might make youlook
a little bad or make you look like you were more involved than you
wanna be, aah, looked at,
um, it's hard to do but it's good from that vantage point to say hey, there,s
no doubt you,re
telling the truth because you've now given ttre wtrote story you'v. given points where it
",r"n
didn't look real good for you either, an, and I don't know if I, if you,youiundeistanding
what
I'm saying (Brendan nods "yes")
FASSBENDER: and, and that's why we kinda came here, to let you talk a little, maybe get
some stuff off your mind or chest if you need to and then to tell us the whole truth, to take us
through this whole thing that happened on Monday, not leaving anything
out, not adding
anything in, because if our guy looked at, looked at the tapes, looked
at the notes, it,s real
obvious there's some places where some things were left out or maybe
changed just a bit ta, to
maybe lookin' at yourself to protect yourself a little. Um, from what I'm
see-ing, even if I filled
those in, I'm thinkin' you're all right. OK, you don't have to worry
about thinjs. Um, w, were
there for ya' um, and I, and, and we know what Steven did an, and, and we
kno-w kinda what
happened to you when he did, we just need to hear the whole story from you.
As soon as we get
that and we're comfortable with that, I think you're gonna be a lot more
comfortable with that.
It's going to be a lot easier on you down the road, ah, if this goes to trial and stuff like
that. We
need to know that, because it's probably going to come out. Think
of Steven for a second,
Steven is already starting to say some things and eventually he is gonna potentially
lay some crap
on you and try and make it look like you are the bad person here. Um, und,r"
don,t want that,
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WIEGERT: Honesty here Brendan is the thing that's gonna help you.
oK, no matter what you
did' we can work through that. oK. w9 ca1't make anfpromises but we,ll stand behind you no
matter what you did. oK. Because you're being the gotd guy
here. you,re the one that,s
saying you know what? Maybe I made some mistakes but
f,"."', what I did. The other guy
involved in this doesn't want to help himself. All he wants
to do is blame everybody else. oK.
And by you talking with us, it's, it's helping you. oK? Because
the honest person is the one
who's gonna get a better deal out oreveiyhing. You know how
that *ort r.inr"ndan nods
"yes")
WIEGERT: You know. Honesty is the only thing that will set you free. Right?
And
we know, like Tom said we know, *" r",ri.*"d those tapeJ
We know there,s some things you
left out and we hoY there's some things that maybe weren't quite
correct that you told us. OK.
We've done, we've been investigating this a longtime. We pretty
much know Lveryhing that,s
why we're to talking to you again today. we rea--lly need you
to be honest this time with
everything, OK. If, in fact, you did somethings, *hi.h *. b.li.u..
somethings may have
happened that you didn't wanna tell us about. It's oK.
As long as you can, as long as you be
honest with us, it's oK. If you lie about it that's gonna be problems.
oK. Does that sound fair?
(Brendan nods "yes")
WIEGERT: All right. Should we just go through that whole day again on the 3l,t or
how do you wanna do it?
FASSBENDER: We can that a. . .... try to give him a chance to just talk to us and
WIEGERT: Sure.
FASSBENDER: if he wants to go through the whole day, if he wants to fill in the pieces,
that's, that's up to Brendan right now.
FASSBENDER: Just wanna to talk to us and tell us and startin' with that day
and how you
actually came to know what happened and stuff. Cuz, I already
know you were in the garage and
stuff apparently cleaning up and stuff so tell us about that. (Brendan
nlds ,,yes,,)
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BRENDAN: well he was working on his car and like he did something
like he poked a hole in like somethin' and then it started wrong and then
leaking. And then later on when cuz I
was helping him before I went over there a little
bit
FASSBENDER: yeah, I know
WIEGERT: Let's go back a little bit, oK. when did you first go over by Steve?
(Brendan nods "yes")
*IEGERT: But you said you were over in the garage helping him.
BRENDAN: yeah.
WIEGERT oK.- So let's go bac_loK Let's go back to around that time. you
get
home off the bus at about three forty-five? (Brendan ..yes")
nod-s
WIEGERT: And what do you do? Now you gotta be honest here.
WIEGERT: OK.
BRENDAN: That she was talkin' er, her car was over there.
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BRENDAN: Like on the other side of the you know where you drove by our house
FASSBENDER: Uh huh.
BRENDAN: Where you turn there it was like on the other side of the road there. bv the
trees.
WIEGERT: And you just told, you just said something, you said she was talking
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: And you stopped now remember this is very important cuz we already
know what happened that day, oK. Let's just be honest here oK, Brendan. (Brendan nods
"yes")
FASSBENDER: Use your memory, not what Steven told ya, not what'anyone else told you,
be honest, cuz we're gonna, we're gonna be able to tell when you're not being honest. I-l'm
telling ya right now so. You're walkin' down the road and let's pick it rp ugiin. OK. (Brendan
nods "yes")
BRENDAN: I seen him talkin' to her on his porch and that and I seen her, her jeep there
and I walked in the house.
WIEGERT: You just knew it later on when this all came out?
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FASSBENDER: And you're sure you saw that, you sure it wasn't
like that (Brendan shakes head "no"), it was another time or anlhing
Hailoween this year.
BRENDAN: (nods..yes',)yeah.
BRENDAN: (nods..yes")yeah.
BRENDAN: I think he, er ah, white short, er, white shirt with
like red shorts or
somethin' like that.
FASSBENDER: oK' Anytime you don't remember you say that all right?
"ygs") (Brendan nods
FASSBENDER: And they were just talking, were they doing anything
screaming, fighting, talking, pushing, anything? J else? were they
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FASSBENDER: oK. You went in your house and this is about quarter to four.
FASSBENDER: And then what did you do in your house. Be honest so we don,t have
ta
go though this eight times.
BRENDAN: I went into my room and cuzmy mom told me I had ta clean my room.
I
cleanedit a little bit and then played Playstation 2 for alittle bit and it was about like 5:00
and
my, my brother was on the phone with his friend.
FASSBENDER: Blaine?
BRENDAN: (nods,.yes',)yeah.
FASSBENDER: OK.
BRENDAN: And he was talking about going trick or treating with 'em and that Jason
will pick him up at like seven.
BRENDAN: And then I ate and then went into the living room at and like I was like
eating in the living room and watchin' TV.
WIEGERT: Honest.
BRENDAN: Well then, then he called and said that he wanted help on his his car.
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BRENDAN: .bout
six, six-thirty
WIEGERT: Let's stop right there, so you he called you and asked
you to help fix a car
BRENDAN: (nods,,yes,') mm huh.
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FASSBENDER: oK' we're not gonna go any further in this cuz we need to get
out now' we know . the fire was going. we know that he had already
the truth
had his altercation with
Teresa' we don't believe there's a Monte in there.
I talked to ya the other night and you said
nothing about Monte you said nothing about something
g.i ing punctured ani leaking out. we
talked about cleaning somethin' up in that garage.
You told me that you thought thinking back
now there was blood' It was red in colorplus yiu'r"
at your house. you said"six, six-thirty, I'll
go that far with ya it might even been earlier.
fuhut', gorn; onr Let,s take it through honestly
now. (Brendan nods ,,yes")
WIEGERT: we already know what happened now tell us exactly. Don,t lie.
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BRENDAN: Well that that moming he said that if he wanted me ta come over
like at
six-thirty and he had the fire started cuz he wanted to bu, ah, to
burn some tires
FASSBENDER: Uh huh
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: The truth, that's its so easy to tell the truth. It's hard ta make things
up.
WIEGERT: Her jeep was in the ga-garage wasn't it? (Brendan nods ,.yes,,)
FASSBENDER: And you, you tell me if I'm wrong but when you were at the house, you
just went over there cuz you had talked about it in the
mlrning. ls that correct?
BRENDAN: (nods,.yes,') mm huh.
FASSBENDER: There was no call from Steven asking you to come over was there? And
you went over, was the big door closed? (Brendan shakes head .,no")
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WIEGERT: So the big door is open and her truck is in there when you
get over there?
FASSBENDER: Is in there?
FASSBENDER: yeah.
BRENDAN: Teresa's
FASSBENDER: OK.
WIEGERT: OK.
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WIEGERT: Now, let's be honest. What did he tell you? What did he
show you?
FASSBENDER: What did you see and what did he tell you?
WIEGERT: She was in the back of the jeep? (Brendan nods "yes,,) Was she alive or
dead at that time?
BRENDAN: Dead
FASSBENDER: Are you sure? (Brendan nods "yes") oK. What did you see
in the back,
now this is hard, but what did you see in the back of the jeep?
BRENDAN: That she was laying there with like a small blanket over
her.
WIEGERT: Was she tied up already? or did you help him do that? (Brendan
shakes
head "no")
BRENDAN: Like the rope was right here around her body.
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WIEGERT: A lot?
FASSBENDER: Let's, stop there for a second now, OK. I want to back up just a bit. I
didn't mean to intemrpt. That you sayin' like what time actually did you get over there now?
About?
FASSBENDER: So it still about that same time, quarter to seven? (Brendan nods "yes")
Are you sure?
FASSBENDER: OK, did you really see those two talking on the on the porch?
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FASSBENDER: OK.
WIEGERT: How did she get in the back of the jeep? Tell us that.
WIEGERT Let's be honest here Brendan. If you helped him, it's OK, because he was
telling you to do it. You didn't do it on your own (Brendan shakes head "no").
WIEGERT: So you get over into the garage and the garage door is open, her truck is in
the garage. Right?
BRENDAN: That's when he threatened me, that if I would say anything, that he like
trusted me or somethin'.
WIEGERT: Why did he, why did he have you come over there? Did he need help with
something? Remember we already know, but we need to hear it from you. Why did he have you
come over there? He needed help, didn't he? (Brendan nods "yes") What did he need help
with? Go ahead and tell us.
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WIEGERT: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: So, what Mark's sayin' is, did he call you or did he come to the door and
say Brendan I need you. What, what did he do?
BRENDAN: And, I said for what? And he is like fer somethin' to do in my garage.
BRENDAN: And. I said sure and then later I came over there and
WIEGERT: OK, but you, he comes to your house and asks you if you wanna do
something, help him with something?
BRENDAN: That he wanted me to come over there and help him move somethin'
WIEGERT: OK. So then you walk over and the garage door is open
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WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: And you're sure the big garage door is open? You didn't go in the little
door.
WIEGERT: So you see her jeep and then what happens? Does he what?
WIEGERT: Da, do you ask him a question who is this, or, what?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: He said that it's a girl that he was kinda pee'd off at.
FASSBENDER: He's obviously not holding anything back from you. He had you come ta
see this
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FASSBENDER: He used you for this. So bring us into the garcge again. You mentioned
earlier that's when he threatened you. Tell us that.
BRENDAN: That he threatened me that if I would say anything that he would stab me
like she, he did ta her and that, that um, he was pissed off at her because of he wanted to get his
his Blazer in the thins that like that last time she was there and he couldn't.
WIEGERT: OK. So he opens the back door of her truck (Brendan nods "yes") and
tell me what you see.
WIEGERT: So she was not covered up? (Brendan shakes head "no") No. I didn't
think so. See we already knew that. (Brendan nods "yes")
FASSBENDER: Did she have clothes on? Now be honest. If she did, she did, and if she
didn't, she didn't.
WIEGERT: What do you mean sort of? Either she had clothes on or she didn't. It's,
was some of it on some of it off.l What?
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WIEGERT: OK, before you just said there was a white T-shirt. She had that on too?
WIEGERT: OK, and in the other interview you said it was blue. Do you remember
what color it was? If you don't remember, say you don't remember.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: Before you mentioned trust, that he said something about trust. Tell us
about that. What did he say about that?
BRENDAN: That he really likes me much and that he trusts me that I won't say
nothin'.
WIEGERT: mm huh.
BRENDAN: So we took her out in the back and put her in the fire pit.
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Tell us did you carry her out there or did you use somethin' to get her back
there?
BRENDAN: Well, we lifted her out of the jeep and put her on like a, like a wheeled
thing.
BRENDAN: Like the things where you get under the car.
WIEGERT: A creeper?
WIEGERT: OK.
BRENDAN: Well he was borrowing it from the yard or somethin' like that.
WIEGERT: What's that creeper say on it? Do you remember? (Brendan shakes head
"no") What color is it?
WIEGERT: Black and red, OK. So you guys lift her out of the truck,
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WIEGERT: Does she have, did you take her clothes off then?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Describe that again how she was tied up, and again make it easy on
yourself, just tell us the truth the first time.
BRENDAN: That it was like wrapped around her like three, four times.
BRENDAN: Rope.
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WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: I don't necessary, I gonna tell you I don't know what it looks like when
someone stabbed. OK, you gotta talk to someone that doesn'Ireahze this. Tell us what you saw.
FASSBENDER: How much blood? Was the, show me on you the extent of the stain or the
blood that you saw.
FASSBENDER: That whole area. (Brendan nods "yes") Was it pretty wet yet or dry?
FASSBENDER: Damp. (Brendan nods "yes") Could you see flesh or just shirt?
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BRENDAN: Once.
FASSBENDER: We've got enough of her to know some things that happened to her. So
tell us the truth.
WIEGERT: What did he say he did in his words? What did he tell you? You can, you
can swear, you can use any of his language you want. Tell us exactly what he told you he did to
her.
BRENDAN: That he ripped off her clothes and she refused and she tried to get away
but he, he wa, he was too strong for her (pause) and he did it.
FASSBENDER: What did he say? Did he use those words? (Brendan nods "yes")
WIEGERT: Are you sure (Brendan nods yes") cuz its usu, not usually the words he
uses? Are, are if you're sure, that's OK.
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WIEGERT: And she tried to get away (Brendan nods yes) but he was too strong.
BRENDAN: Yeah
BRENDAN: Well after he was done, that's when he put her back in the jeep in the
back.
FASSBENDER: How do you know that? I have a feelin' I know how you know that.
WIEGERT: We already know Brendan. We already know. Come on. Be honest with
us. Be honest with us. We already know, it's, OK? We gonna help you through this, alright?
(Brendan nods "yes") Tell us, how do you know that?
WIEGERT: mm huh.
BRENDAN: Screaminq.
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WIEGERT: What was the screaming like? What was she saying?
BRENDAN: Well, I was going up to the, the driveway and get the mail.
FASSBENDER: OK.
WIEGERT: So you go out on your bike and you hear screaming coming from where?
BRENDAN: Steven's.
WIEGERT: So you go get the mail and you go in the house and then what?
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WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: OK Brendan, you're doing a good job. Let's go back to when you go
outside to get your bike and you gotta go get the mail and you said you heard screaming.
Anymore, tell us more about what you heard. That you said help me. Was a female screaming?
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: Did that scare you when you heard that screaming?
FASSBENDER: And you said you rode your bike down to get the mail?
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FASSBENDER: Came back and then what'd you do? Honestly. You went over to his
house?
FASSBENDER: mm huh
FASSBENDER: Yeah.
BRENDAN: I he, I asked him if he wants any help and he said no, that if he wanted
help, he would come in and get me or somethin' so I went in the house and I sat down.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: OK, you went in the house and sat down, and then?
BRENDAN: I waited and then I, I watched TV for a little bit and my mom came home.
FASSBENDER: OK.
BRENDAN: She asked me if anybody got the mail. I'm like yeah, I did and watched
TV more and he came over and asked if she wanted help.
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WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: OK, let's, to this point now, I think we're pretty close to the truth. How
close are we Brendan?
FASSBENDER: OK, then give us the little parts that we don't have yet up ta that point.
Does Steven? There's somethin' in there we're missin'. You heard her, I have a feelin' he saw
you, you saw him somethin' in here that we're missin' cuz you know we're not idiots, I don't see
him comin' over to the house and asking you to help him unless you knows you know somethin'
so tell us what you knew that he knew.
FASSBENDER: I think you went over to his house and then he asked him to get his mail
somethin' in here is missins.
BRENDAN: Well, when I got the mail there was like a envelope in there with his name
on it.
WIEGERT: Be honest. You went inside, didn't you? (Brendan nods "yes")
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FASSBENDER: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: I didn't.
BRENDAN: (nods'oyes")Yeah.
WIEGERT: Was she naked? (Brendan nods "yes") Was she alive?
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
(pause)
BRENDAN: Both.
BRENDAN: Like the hand like there is round poles on each side.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: Of his bed? (Brendan nods "yes") And you, your, your gettin'there OK.
Lets back up again and did you go get the mail?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: When you went to get the mail with your bike did you hear somethin' at
that time or did it happen when you came back with the mail?
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FASSBENDER: I gotta believe this is in your in your mind right now like a picture.
(Brendan nods "yes") There's a video in your mind, this whole thing and you're trying to get it
out and the only way you can get it out is by talking about it right now. So you came back, did
you have a letter for Steven?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Did you hear screaming coming from inside the trailer?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: What did you do then? You had to, are you at the door or where are you?
When you first hear the screaming where are you?
BRENDAN: mm huh.
FASSBENDER: You hear screaming half, halfway or a quafier way down that frontage
road, your driveway road?
FASSBENDER: Do you are you able to make out any of the words?
FASSBENDER: OK. Take me from there and be honest so we don't have ta keep backing
up here. Cuz, we, we know but we need it in your words. I can't, I can't say it.
WIEGERT: Brendan, I already know. You know we know. OK. Come on buddy.
Let's get this out, OK?
FASSBENDER: You're coming back with the mail, take us through it. It's the video in
your head, play it for us.
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BRENDAN: Well I stopped and I seen if there was any mail for me so and I seen
Steven's so I went over there right away ta bring it over by 'em and I knocked like three times
and then he finally came.
FASSBENDER: Are you hearing anything coming from the other side of the trailer at this
time?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: What?
FASSBENDER: OK. That's gotta be pretty devastating, right? (Brendan nods "yes") But
you still knock.
BRENDAN: mm huh.
WIEGERT: You went into the trailer then? (Brendan nods "yes")
FASSBENDER: You knock and he comes to the door. What's he look like? Is he dressed.
has he got anything on him, what-what's he look like?
BRENDAN: He's got a white shirt on with red shorts and all sweaty.
FASSBENDER: He's all sweaty. (Brendan nods "yes") Any blood, at this time?
WIEGERT: He what?
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FASSBENDER: Does he know you've heard anything? Is she still saying stuffl
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Then he walks you into the kitchen. (Brendan nods "yes") OK, play the
video for us Bud, tell us what's happenin'.
WIEGERT: It's OK, tell us what happened. What did he say to you?
BRENDAN: That he never got some of that stuff so he wanted to get some.
BRENDAN: A sirl.
WIEGERT: OK.
BRENDAN: Pussy.
FASSBENDER: Now I can start believing you, OK? (Brendan nods "yes")
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FASSBENDER: What's he sayin' to you? (pause) It's all right. You are doing the right
thing.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: What kind of words is he use, using though? You can say those words
here.
FASSBENDER: Yeah.
WIEGERT: OK. What happens next? Remember, we already know, but we need to
hear it from you, it's OK. It's not your fault. What happens next?
FASSBENDER: We know.
WIEGERT: He asks you doesn't he? (Brendan nods "yes") What does he ask you?
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BRENDAN: That he said that if I wanted to I could go get some but not right now.
WIEGERT: We know you were back there. Let's get it all out today and this will be
all over with.
FAASSBENDER: He asked if you want some, right? (Brendan nods "yes") That's what you
told us.
BRENDAN: Um huh.
BRENDAN: I said I wasn't ased and so he took me back there and showed me some.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: What'd she say? (pause) What'd she sayin'? I know it's hard but you
gotta tell us, what'd she say?
FASSBENDER: The video will never go away unless you can talk to us about it.
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FASSBENDER: Did she say anything to you? She see, does she see you?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Describe again, were you accurate when you described how she was on
the bed, how is she attached, where is she, tell us that and be truthful again.
BRENDAN: That she was chained up to the bed and, 'er she's faced up.
WIEGERT: Where are the handcuffs? On her arms or on her less. or where?
BRENDAN: Both.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: Do you remember the color of the handcuffs? And the leg irons? (shakes
head "no")
BRENDAN: Silver.
FASSBENDER: OK.
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WIEGERT: Now are her legs spread apart or are they together or tell us how it looks?
WIEGERT: So you, he, he brings you back there and he shows you her (Brendan nods
"yes") and what do you do? Honestly. Because we think
WIEGERT: We know what happened, it's OK. (pause) What did you do?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: All right, take a breath Bren, take a breath, that's very hard to admit to.
Did he watch?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: You said you, tell us what you did, you take your clothes offl
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: And you had intercourse with her? (Brendan nods "yes")
BRENDAN: Mv oenis.
WIEGERT: OK. (pause). How many times did you do that? How long did it take?
FASSBENDER: Was she saying anything, while you were doing this? (Brendan shakes
head "no") Why?
FASSBENDER: Was, did she have anything over her mouth or was it clear? Tell us the
truth.
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FASSBENDER: There was nothin' covering her mouth? (Brendan shakes head "no") Did
she ask you not to do this to her?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: She told me not to do it so and told me not, to do the right thing.
FASSBENDER: Go ahead. Any'thing else? (Brendan shakes head "no") (pause) Were
these things she was saying to you while you were doing this act?
BRENDAN: Yeah
FASSBENDER: OK.
WIEGERT: After you're done and you put your clothes on, what happens next?
BRENDAN: He told me I did a good job and then he closed the door.
WIEGERT: OK.
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FASSBENDER: And what's he sayin' while you're watching TV? Are you discussing this
situation now?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: What's he say, what did he sayin'? (pause) As hard as this is, you gotta
tell us what he's sayin'.
WIEGERT: Then what did you talk about, what else did you talk about?
FASSBENDER: When you say get rid of it, what do you mean?
FASSBENDER: OK.
BRENDAN: That he was going to burn her body after that happened.
WIEGERT: Was there anything else that you guys talk about?
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: OK.
WIEGERT: What happens after you were done watching TV for 15 minutes.
WIEGERT: Brendan, be honest. You were there when she died and we know that.
Don't start lying now. We know you were there. What happened?
WIEGERT: We already know, don't lie to us now, OK, come on. What happens next?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: What else did he do to her? (pause) He did something else, we know that.
(pause) What else?
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BRENDAN: After.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Once.
WIEGERT: We know he did something else to her, what else did he do to her?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: And did he choke her until what, did she go unconscious, what, tell me.
BRENDAN: Go unconscious.
BRENDAN: After.
WIEGERT: So he stabs her, show me what he does. Just demonstrate for me.
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FASSBENDER: Yeah, let's, you-you co-come down the roo, the hallway, he , you go with
him?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: What does he tell you he's going to do at, this time, you're goin' back to
the bedroom?
BRENDAN: That he was gonna tie her up, stab her and then choke like, choke her and
that.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: He went into the bedroom, what does he do? Again the video, you see it, I
know you see it, what does he do?
BRENDAN: That he gr, he grabs the rope that was on the side of the bed, tied her up,
stabbed her like this and jumped on her and started choking her.
BRENDAN: Screamins.
WIEGERT: You helped to tie her up though, didn't you? (pause) Brendan, cuzhe
couldn't tie her up alone, there's no way. Did you help him tie her up?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
(pause)
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BRENDAN: That he was on the other side and, we had ta unhook the ch, the, the hands
and tied her up.
WIEGERT: So you helped unhook her hands? And what exactly did you do? Tell me
exactly what you did.
BRENDAN: I got the key for the lock and unlocked it and after a,I grabbed her arm,
put it on the side and tied her up.
WIEGERT: So you grab her right arm and you do what with it?
BRENDAN: Put it on the side like this. I put the rope right here.
FASSBENDER: Did you tie her up in front or behind? Did you tie her, I guess I want to
say did you tie her hands up?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: In front.
FASSBENDER: OK. What is she saying at this time? Or is Steven telling her something?
What's he telling her?
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FASSBENDER: Is he telling her that he's gonna kill her, is he telling her he's gonna let her
go, what's he telling her?
BRENDAN: Then we get the other rope and tie her legs up.
WIEGERT: Show me on you where he does that, where you guys do that?
BRENDAN: He does.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Held her feet down. (Brendan nods "yes") And what did Steve do?
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FASSBENDER: oK, oK, you got her tied up, she's, when you're getting her tied up, is
she, is she alive or has he choked her already?
FASSBENDER: Did he choke her when she had the handcuffs on?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: OK.
WIEGERT: So she's laying there, handcuffs on, and that's when Steve stabs her?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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BRENDAN: A knife.
FASSBENDER: And what, how big was the knife, show us.
FASSBENDER: About that big and he got it out of the kitchen. When he went in there, did
he threaten her with the knife, did he just go right and do it, what did he do?
BRENDAN: That he was gonna kill her by stabbing her and not lettin' her go.
WIEGERT: What else did he do to her? We know something else was done. Tellus,
and what else did you do? come on. Something with the head. Brendan?
BRENDAN: Huh?
FASSBENDER: ....can't
FASSBENDER: What he made you do Brendan, we know he made you do somethin' else.
FASSBENDER: We have the evidence Brendan, we just need you ta,tabehonest with us.
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BRENDAN: mm huh.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: He made you do somethin' to her, didn't he? So he-he would feel better
about not bein' the only person, right? (Brendan nods "yes") yeah.
WIEGERT: mm huh.
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WIEGERT: What did he make you do Brendan? It's OK, what did he make you do?
BRENDAN: mm huh.
BRENDAN: After.
WIEGERT: Was she a-how do you know she was alive? (pause) Tell me. When you
cut her throat, how do you know she was alive?
WIEGERT: She was breathing a little bit. Did Steve tell you to do that?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: How'd he tell you to do, how'd he tell you to do that? What'd he say?
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BRENDAN: Once.
WIEGERT: So Steve stabs her first and then you cut her neck? (Brendan nods "yes")
What else happens to her in her head?
FASSBENDER: It's extremely, extremely important you tell us this, for us to believe you.
(pause)
WIEGERT: All right, I'm just gonna come out and ask you. Who shot her in the head?
BRENDAN: He did.
FASSBENDER: Now you remember it? (Brendan nods "yes") Tell us about that then.
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Outside.
WIEGERT: OK. So let's back up, OK? So I wanna go through this OK. So he stabs
her (Brendan nods "yes") and chokes her?
BRENDAN: mm huh.
BRENDAN: Then we
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT? Yes?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: OK.
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BRENDAN: He did.
BRENDAN: Twice.
FASSBENDER: In her body too or where else? (pause) How many times do you shoot her
Brendan?
BRENDAN: Twice.
FASSBENDER: Total? Not just in the head. (pause) Do you shoot her elsewhere?
Honestly?
FASSBENDER: How many times did you shoot her when he handed you the gun?
BRENDAN: Zero.
BRENDAN: Cuz we used to have a cat that was like somethin' was wrons with 'em
and we had to shoot 'em because we didn't want to pay for the bills.
WIEGERT: mm huh.
BRENDAN: And my mom told me not to watch when hers nows ex-boyfriend
WIEGERT: mm huh.
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WIEGERT: mm huh.
FASSBENDER: Brendan, we're in the bedroom yet, oK? (Brendan nods "yes") She,s
handcuffed yet right? (Brendan nods "yes") And you're tellin' me if, obviously correct me if
I'm wrong, what we heard. (Brendan nodsooyes") While she's handcuffed and alive, he stabs
her.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: And then you cut some hair off. (Brendan nods "yes") Is it after that, that
she, does she look like she's dead then? Or is she not dead?
FASSBENDER: Is it then that you take the handcuffs off, and tie her up?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: You can remember. So you think after she, she looks like she's dead then
you, you guys tie her up? (Brendan nods "yes") Then what do you do? How do you get her
outside? Is this when you calry her? (Brendan nods "yes") When you say you carried her?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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FASSBENDER: And that's located in proximity to what inside, is it near his bedroom, far
away?
BRENDAN: Near.
BRENDAN: Take her outside on the side of the garage and shoot her.
BRENDAN: Then we, he puts the gun on the ground and we carry her into the fire.
WIEGERT: How many times did you shoot her? (pause) Tell me again, how many
times did you shoot her?
BRENDAN: Three.
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WIEGERT: So you take her out of that house by the cement steps, you cary her to the
side ofthe garage?
WIEGERT: OK, so you carry her to the side of the garage (Brendan nods ..yes,,) and
you guys shoot 'er, and Steve shoots her or you shoot her?
BRENDAN: He does.
BRENDAN: Steven.
BRENDAN: Her.
BRENDAN: Teresa.
WIEGERT: OK. And he shoots her three times (Brendan nods "yes") and then what
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WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: Did he say, w-what did he say while he was shooting her? Or just before
he shot her?
BRENDAN: That we had to hurry up before he had some people coming over.
BRENDAN: Yeah
FASSBENDER: OK, we're gonna take ya where Mark just took ya and we know there,s
some, some things that you're, you're not tellin' us. We need to get the accuracy about
the
garage and stuff like that and the car.
BRENDAN: After.
WIEGERT: OK, so lets go back to outside, you calry her over, she's naked, right?
(Brendan nods "yes") And you put her on the fire?
BRENDAN: mm huh.
WIEGERT: You threw tires and branches on her (Brendan nods "yes"), and then what?
BRENDAN: He did.
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BRENDAN: Steven.
FASSBENDER: OK.
WIEGERT: wh-wh-what do you mean, before you got there? you carry her
out, is the
fire buming already when you carried her out?
BRENDAN: yeah.
WIEGERT: So' you when you carried her out of the house, and you put .er
by the
garage' and Steve shoots her, then you put her on top of
the fire that's akeldy ioing?
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BRENDAN: Go in the garage and help him move um, move the jeep
down into the pit.
WIEGERT: oK, so she's there buming, what do you put on top of her or do you put
something on top of her in the fire?
BRENDAN: The.22.
WIEGERT: oK.
FASSBENDER: oK Brendan, we gotta, I think, I think you're doin' a real good job
up to
this point of ah coming forward and stuff, but you bring her out
of the house, you just said that
ah' after you put her on the, on the fire, then, then you iranted
to get the car, hetp get the car out
of the garage and stuff. (Brendan nods "yes") Again, we have,
w-we know that some things
happened in that gatage, and in that car, we know that. You
need to tell us about this so we
know you're tellin' us the truth. I'm not gonna tell you what to
say, you need to tell us.
BRENDAN: He was gonna put her in the je-in the back of the jeep
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BRENDAN: An we were gonna take her down in the pit and throw ,er in that
water.
FASSBENDER: OK.
BRENDAN We, he came up with burning her. So he set her back on the floor
and
then, that's when he threw her in the fire.
FASSBENDER: oK, now let's back up, so M-Mark can hear this too. you bring her out
the house, you, you're gonna take, you took her in the garage? (Brendan
of
nods ,,yes,,) Tell me
what happened again so Mark can hear this.
BRENDAN: Well he put her in the back of the jeep and he said he was gonna go down
in the pit and throw her in the water in the pond and thatis when he
came up with burning her.
WIEGERT: Who?
BRENDAN: Oh.
FASSBENDER: OK.
WIEGERT: Was she on the garage floor or was she in the truck?
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WIEGERT: Ah huh, come on, now where was she shot? Be honest here.
BRENDAN: After.
FASSBENDER: So she's in the truck and that's when he shoots her? (Brendan nods ..yes,')
How many times? (pause) Remember weeee got a number of shell casings that we
found in that
garage. I'm not gonna tell ya how many but you need to tell me how many
times, about, that she
was shot.
WIEGERT: We know you shot her too. Is that right? (Brendan shakes head..no,,)
Then who did?
FASSBENDER: And she was in the back of the truck or the SUV that whole time that he
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FASSBENDER: Yeah. So you bring her out of the ca-or the trailer, right? (Brendan nods
'oyes") And do you take her right into the garage?
BRENDAN: mm huh.
FASSBENDER: And where you place her, where'd you set her down?
BRENDAN: Down on the floor where the lawn mower was sittin' a little bit.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: when did he take that or go out and put that in there?
BRENDAN: Beeefore.
FASSBENDER: The truth, (pause) the truth. Was the jeep in there alreadybefore you
even went to her house, or his house?
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: No. (Brendan shakes head "no") oK, so when did he do it?
BRENDAN: when he set her down on the, the ground, .er in the garage.
WIEGERT: So you bring her into the garage, you set her on the garage floor?
BRENDAN: He backs up the jeep and we put her in the back. Then he says that he
knows a better way, that he would burn ,er.
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BRENDAN: We set 'er on the floor and he shoots her ten times maybe. Go put her on
the fire.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: So let me just back up again, so you bring her into the garage, you put her
in the truck initially?
WIEGERT: And then he shoots her? (Brendan nods ,.yes,') And then what?
BRENDAN: We grab her and we put her in and take her over the fire and throw her on.
WIEGERT: And after you put her in the fire, what do you do with the fire?
WIEGERT: OK.
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FASSBENDER: You did use that. (Brendan nods "yes") You didn't carry her out there.
WIEGERT: So you loaded her on the creeper? (Brendan nods "yes") Is that what it,s
called?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: And then what did you do with the creeper? (pause) It's OK, what,d you
do with it?
WIEGERT: OK.
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BRENDAN: He drove.
FASSBENDER: Truthtully.
FASSBENDER: How did you get down there? what route did you
take?
BRENDAN: past Chuckie's house.
FASSBENDER: oK.
WIEGERT: Who put the stuff on the car?
WIEGERT: OK. After he put the car there, what do you do next?
WIEGERT: with, how's, the license plates were taken off the car, who did
that?
BRENDAN: I don't know.
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BRENDAN: yeah.
WIEGERT: well then why'd you say you don't know? Did steve
plates off the car? take the license
BRENDAN: we were' were like right to the pond and you keep on going
and then you
take a right and you go up the hill.
WIEGERT: Whose got the key for the vehicle at that time?
BRENDAN: He did.
WIEGERT: oK, where do you go when you get back up by his house, where do you
go?
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WIEGERT: Jn his dresser drawer, can you explain where that is?
BRENDAN: Like the second one down, like in the middle row.
FASSBENDER: oK, what else did he do, he did somethin' else, you
need to tell us what he
did, after that car is parked there. It's extremely important. (pause)
Before you guys leave that
car.
FASSBENDER: oK. Did he, did he, did he go and look at the engine, did he raise the
hood
at all or anything like that? To do something to thit car?
BRENDAN: yeah.
FASSBENDER: what did he do under the hood, if that,s what he did? (pause)
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BRENDAN: yeah.
WIEGERT: While he was raising the hood, did you take that license plates
off?
BRENDAN: (shakes head ,,no") No.
BRENDAN: He did.
WIEGERT: OK.
WIEGERT: But you were with him, what did you guys do with .em?
BRENDAN: He had 'em in his house but I don't know after where he put .em.
WIEGERT: You saw him put 'em in the house? (Brendan nods "yes") And you also
saw him do what? Put the key
BRENDAN: yeah
WIEGERT: Where'd
WIEGERT: In his dresser. Where was the knife that he used, 'er you used. Where,d
that knife go?
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WIEGERT: He what?
WIEGERT: It's not in the jeep now, where do you think it might be?
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: At anytime, er wh-what time during this whole thing did a, did you get
hurt?
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(pause)
BRENDAN: yeah.
WIEGERT: And then what happens when you get in the trailer?
BRENDAN: That (pause) he was glad that I helped him and that.
WIEGERT: Um, when, when you get the bleach on you, let's talk about
that, he thanks
you for helping him and then what do you guys do?
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WIEGERT: OK. What time is it when he, when your mom calls?
BRENDAN: we watch TV a little bit, talked, about that he was glad that I helped
him
cuz he couldn't do it by his self.
BRENDAN: He took the, the bedsheets, took ,em outside and he burnt .em.
WIEGERT: Took the bedsheets outside and he burnt 'em. (Brendan nods ,,yes,,)
OK.
FASSBENDER: W-was there blood on the bedsheets?
BRENDAN: yeah.
FASSBENDER: OK.
BRENDAN: He hid the, that's when he hid the kev and then
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BRENDAN: Teresa's.
lpause)
BRENDAN: The clothes, that's full of, the st, the blood that was like
cleaned up.
WIEGERT: what did the clothes look like? (pause) Start with the pants, you
remember what color the pants were?
WIEGERT: oK, wh-what about the shirt, what color was the shirt?
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BRENDAN: Black.
WIEGERT: what about did you have 'er bra and panties too?
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: Now the shirt, earlier you told us the shirt had blood on it, had a hole in it.
was that not true then?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: We threw gas on it so he could get it off. Then he tried paint thinner and
then he went to bleach to get it off and like, he like, probably like, he went like he was spraying
it like. I thought he got it on the floor and it splashed up on my pants or somethin,.
WIEGERT: How much bleach, no let me go back. How much blood was there on the
floor, quite a bit?
BRENDAN: Like by the lawn mower and where the jeeps' tire was.
WIEGERT: So if you had to say, some dimensions llke2 x2,2 feet by 2 feet,l0 X 10,
how much blood do you think was there?
BRENDAN: Bv 2 x2.
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FASSBENDER: were there multiple spots that you cleaned in the garageor just
one?
BRENDAN: Two.
FASSBENDER: If we took you to that garage, would you be able to show us where?
BRENDAN: yeah.
FASSBENDER: oK.
WIEGERT: Where'd you get the bleach from?
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FASSBENDER: what did Steven say he was gonna do with her car?
BRENDAN: (shakes head "no") No. He said he woulda, actually the sooner, he said
the sooner the better.
WIEGERT oK. We can get you a soda if you want one. would you like one?
(Brendan nods "yes") What kind?
BRENDAN: Coke.
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FASSBENDER: We got some food up here, sandwich or anything, you want somethin'?
(Brendan shakes head "no") Are you sure? (Brendan nods "yes") Bathroom? (Brendan shakes
head "no") Nothin'. Just a soda? (Brendan nods "yes") All right Bud, hang in there.
(pause - break)
(door opens)
FASSBENDER: Would you like ta ah have a sandwich or anything? (Brendan shakes head
"no") You sure?
FASSBENDER: OK, (Brendan nods "yes") if you want something, just let somebody
know.
(door opens)
FASSBENDER: Doing OK? (Brendan nods "yes") Need anything? (Brendan shakes head
"no") Need to go to the bathroom?
BRENDAN: uh huh
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FASSBENDER: want somethin' to eat? (Brendan shakes head ,.no,,) you sure?
(door opens)
WIEGERT: Hey, Brendan, you need ta use the bathroom or anything? (Brendan shakes
head "no") You sure? (Brendanshakes head "no") Need anything else?
WIEGERT: Sandwich or anything? (Brendan shakes head "no") Did ya get your soda?
WIEGERT: Sure.
BRENDAN: Oh.
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WIEGERT: oK. We'll woffy about that later, OK? (Brendan nods ,,yes,,) All right.
I'll be back in a few minutes, OK?
BRENDAN: OK.
(door opens)
FASSBENDER: Pretty good. (Brendan nods "yes") Got a lot of stuff off your
chest, huh.
FASSBENDER: A lot more stuff a lot of the truth. (Brendan nods "yes,,) Ah, what
we do
when, when we leave the room we kinda talk about stuffio
make sure that we think we,re we,re
all in the same page and that, that we're gettin'it you know the
truth, the whole tnrth (Brendan
nods "yes") and' and then we, we you know we think you're
doin' pretty good so far but there,s
some areas that we have ta revisit, OK, (Brendan nods "yes")
and then soire other questions.
And and again don't make us work so hard for this, donit make yourself
work so hard for this,
just get the truth out right away, cuz again we, we have pretty
a good knowledge of what
happened there. (Brendan nods..yes,,) All right?
FASSBENDER: I wanna revisit when you went when you got home from school. (Brendan
nods "yes") OK? You were with Blaine, is that correct?
FASSBENDER: oK, and you said you walked down th the road to your house, (Brendan
nods "yes") and you said that you saw Steven on the porch.
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FASSBENDER: Mark and I are havin' a problem with that. Now if, I'm not, I'm not sayin'
that I'm gonna put words in your mouth so we're havin' a problem with that. You know Blaine
not seeing it and stuff like that and and the time period cuz its quarter to four and and we're real
familiar with time periods here and when she got there and stuff. Is there somethin' you need to
tell us about that? When you got home what did you see before you went into your house? Did
you even go in your house or did ya go over to Steven's. (cough) Talk to us about what
happened there cuz the time periods aren't addin' up bud.
BRENDAN: Well I don't know if Blaine seen it but I never asked him about it. So I
don't know if he seen it or not.
FASSBENDER: Again, er, whether Blaine saw it or not, the time periods aren't adding up.
They're not equaling out. We know when Teresa got there. (Brendan nods "yes") Um, and, and
I know I guarantee ya Teresa's not standing on that porch when you come home from school. I
ju I don't see that. Um, I don't even ya I have a problem with the car sittin' out front yet at this
time either. That cars sittin' out front other people er at would have seen that car, you know.
Somethin' is not adding up here and you need to tell us the truth. Did this all start right when
you came home from school? You need to tell me, you need to be honest with me. I can't tell
ya, I I can't tell you these things. I can tell ya we don't believe you because there's some things
that are wrong but you've gotta tell me the truth. This is you know gettin' serious here now, OK?
(Brendan nods "yes") Tell me what happened when you got home.
BRENDAN: I got off the bus. I walked down the road and when I got to that thing, ah,
the other house I just sittin' there for nothin'. I could see her jeep in the garagejust sittin' there
and I didn't see Steven and her on the the porch.
BRENDAN: I didn't.
BRENDAN: Mine and Blaine's, went into the garage to get the key to open the door
cuz we always lock it when we, we leave and we went in and Blaine grabbed the phone right
away and I waited for like 30 minutes waited for him to get off the phone with Jason so I can call
Travis ta see what he was doing that night and I waited so I watched TV and that's when I went
out to eet the mail.
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FASSBENDER: oK. So I'm gonna take you through this now that you've said it, you got
off the bus, came down the road and you said you saw Teresa's vehicle in Steven,s garage?
BRENDAN: The front end was outta the door. (nods "yes,,)
FASSBENDER: The front end was outta the door. So the big door was open I take it?
FASSBENDER: oK and then you said you went into your house.
BRENDAN' "yes',) uh huh
lnods
FASSBENDER: Did you, did you go over to Steven's at that time?
FASSBENDER: And you went over to your house and the the way you were telling me you
about twenty minutes half hour yet away because Blaine used the pt oner
FASSBENDER: And so then you went down and got the mail?
FASSBENDER: So you're in your house for about ah twenty minutes a half hour?
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FASSBENDER: And you went down ta get the mail? (Brendan nods ,,yes")
FASSBENDER: You called Travis first. (Brendan nods "yes") OK. How long did ya talk
to Travis?
FASSBENDER: And after you're done talkin' to Travis, what did you do?
FASSBENDER: And then you're coming back from the mail, is is that when you, tell me
what happened then again?
BRENDAN: That's when I went to get the mail and I came back, I was lookin' at it
when I was riding the bike and I seen Steven's mail in there and I went over by him and I
knocked on the door.
FASSBENDER: oK and then you said before you knocked on his door.
BRENDAN: (nods "yes") uh huh
FASSBENDER: three times and it took how long for Steven to get to the door about?
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FASSBENDER: about five minutes. While you were standing at the door, did you continue
to hear things comin' from the inside?
FASSBENDER: Steven came ta the door and took you into the kitchen you said right?
FASSBENDER: OK. About what time do ya think this is? Thinkin' back now on your time
periods when you got home how long it took for these phone calls and stuff.
FASSBENDER: OK, when you knock when you actually knock on Steven's door was the
big garage door still open? Do you remember?
FASSBENDER: You don't remember (Brendan shakes head "no") or it wasn't open?
FASSBENDER: OK. Was Teresa Halbach's vehicle sittin' out in the drivewav when vou
knocked on the door?
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: OK. So that's a little different than what you initially told us, is that right?
BRENDAN: (nods "yes")Yeah.
FASSBENDER: All right. Do you do you remember Steven making any phone calls or
getting any phone calls during this evening? During that evening?
BRENDAN: He sot.
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BRENDAN: Jodi.
FASSBENDER: oK' What. can you tell me what the context your side of the conversation
was? What did you -hear?
BRENDAN: He was rike saying that he cares about her and that.
FASSBENDER: So you said maybe a couple of phone calls, when did the first
call happen
about?
FASSBENDER: About five, five-thirty, is that what you're saying? (Brendan nods ..yes,,)
And what phone did he talk on?
FASSBENDER: oK and then who was that call from do vou think?
BRENDAN: Jodi again.
FASSBENDER: You think so. (Brendan nods "yes") OK. Do you recall if um, Steve
called anyone?
FASSBENDER: oK. We talked last er Monday we talked a little about some things a burn
barrel out front do you remember anything about that burn barrel? It's ah you
might wanna be a
little more truthful about now.
BRENDAN: yeah.
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FASSBENDER: Did you put some things in that burn barrel that night?
FASSBENDER: What happened ta her ah, her cell phone? (short pause) Don't try tata
think of somethin' just.
FASSBENDER: Did Steven did you see whether ah a cell phone of hers?
WIEGERT: Brendan, it's OK to tell us OK. It's really important that you continue
being honest with us. OK, don't start lying now. If you know what happened to a cell phone or
a camera or her purse, you need to tell us. OK? (Brendan nods "yes) The hard parts over. Do
you know what happened ta those items?
BRENDAN: Because when I passed it there was like like a purse in there and stuff.
WIEGERT: Did ya look inside? (Brendan nods "yes") Why did ya look inside?
WIEGERT: Did you actually see those items in the burning banel?
BRENDAN: Like they were buried underneath ah, garbage, a gatbage bag that was
WIEGERT: How do you know, or how could you see them if they were underneath a
garbage bag?
BRENDAN: Because the garbage bag was like on top like that far off the top.
WIEGERT: OK, so we have the barrel, (Brendan nods "yes") OK' Why don't you
look at me for a second, OK. We've got the barrel.
WIEGERT: OK and here's is the top of the barrel (Brendan nods "yes") and the
garbage bag is on toP?
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WIEGERT: And where are those items you said you saw?
BRENDAN: Well, if the bags like that far off the you know the top of the thing you can
see though undemeath it.
WIEGERT: You could see undemeath it? (Brendan nods "yes") What did you see?
WIEGERT: Before you went into the house (Brendan nods "yes") or after you went
into the house?
WIEGERT: OK.
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FASSBENDER: Did you see Steven, when you came home from school or at anytime up
until the point you went in ta Steven's house, did you see him go to the burning banel with
anything?
FASSBENDER: After you went into the house, did Steven go to the buming barrel at any
time?
WIEGERT/
FASSBENDER: ....solry. .use this one..........thanks
FASSBENDER: All right. Now we got, we got some other points that we're gonna talk
about here. You go there, you get into Steven's house. Now I don't want you to hold back any
language or how he told you anything or how he presented himself to you when this stuff
happened when he took ya into the kitchen, just kinda tell me what he told you again and how he
told you.
BRENDAN: He asked me if I wanted ta fuck the girl and if I wanted to try it. I said ta
that I ain't old enough that ta have a kid yet so he said yeah, do you wanna try it though? I'm
like not right now and he just kept on egging me on.
FASSBENDER: OK and, and did he say anything else to you while he was egging you on?
How did he egg you on?
FASSBENDER: And had you been back in the bedroom area yet at this time or no?
FASSBENDER: What, what ah, tell me again what he told you was back there? Who or
what?
BRENDAN: That Teresa Halbach was back there. That she was on the bed naked with
she was chained up ta the bed.
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Like help me and not ta tell Steven not ta do this anymore.
FASSBENDER: Did Steven say that he had already done that or not?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: At anytime that night, did you see Steven have sex with her?
BRENDAN: (shakes head "no") No.
FASSBENDER: Because we know now that you did and he watched while you did it. Did
you watch once or while he did it?
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WIEGERT: oK.
FASSBENDER: oK. You told us about going in there and having sex
with her that she
was handcuffed and' and chained, oK? ultimatelylnd
then you said you left the bedroom for a
period of time and, and he talked ta you in the living
room, right?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: That, that he was saying that I did a good job and that he
was proud of me.
FASSBENDER: oK, how long were you in the living room about?
BRENDAN: About five minutes, five, ten.
FASSBENDER: And then after you're in the living room, where did ya go?
FASSBENDER: oK and tell me and think, think about the video in your head
went back in the bedroom and go through what happened again.
oK. you
BRENDAN: We went in there, we tied her up and he stabbed her and he told
me ta cut
her throat and cut her hair off and then when *. *.."ione like that we took off the handcuffs
and we took her outside ta the jeep, stuck her in the back, he
said he would rather burn her than
stick her back in there and we put her on the floor and then he
shot her ten times and then we
threw her in the fire.
FASSBENDER: oK, we'll there's some points that we're gonna go over there on that, oK?
(Brendan nods "yes") In the ah, well in the bedroom, and
he had you cit the hair off you said
right?
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FASSBENDER: Has he ever told you what he did with that hair?
WIEGERT: Cuz you know we'll find it if you do. (Brendan nods "yes")
FASSBENDER: And that would not be good for you. If we find you're lying or find things
that you don't tell us about, I can't believe you then. If you tell me you're sorry this happened,
then I won't believe you. . .....
FASSBENDER: Pardon?
WIEGERT: Don't got none of the hair. Did you get any blood on you?
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FASSBENDER: OK, so you tie her up (Brendan nods "yes") and you told us before you
think she's dead at this time (Brendan nods "yes") and you guys, you and Steven carry her out
that back door and into the garage. (Brendan nods "yes") When you're in the garage where do
you place her immediately?
FASSBENDER: Right into the jeep or did you set her on the floor or
FASSBENDER: Right into the jeep. (Brendan nods "yes") How does Steven get the rifle?
BRENDAN: When he set her down, when we set her down on, on the ground, he went
into the house and grabbed it.
BRENDAN: Like where the door is there's like a, like a gun rack up there.
FASSBENDER: If I'm laying in his bed, where is the where are the where is his gun?
BRENDAN: Like, say like this is his bedroom and his bed was like right here, it would
be on that wall.
FASSBENDER: Let's say his bed is your bed or his bed there on the couch
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Oh
WIEGERT: If I asked you to draw me a few pictures, do you think you could do that?
WIEGERT: As to what the bedroom if you'd put things in the bedroom (Brendan nods
"yes") and like put her on the bed how she was, could you do that?
WIEGERT: OK........
WIEGERT: ......I'11 grab some papers, OK? (Brendan nods "yes") All right?
(pause)
(door opens)
REMIKER: .......
WIEGERT: Yeah.
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WIEGERT: Could you draw some pictures? Is that OK or are there some things you
wanna talk
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: Um, Brendan, when you guys got her into the ga the garage you said that
you placed her right into the back of the, the her vehicle right?
FASSBENDER: And then he said that he, how did it come about that he wanted ta do what
he wanted to do? Tell me that.
BRENDAN: He told me that he was gonna throw her in the, the pond and he said that
he would rather burn her because it's a lot faster to get rid of all the evidence.
FASSBENDER: And earlier you said that the fire was going on at this time?
FASSBENDER: Mark and I have a little trouble understanding why he's got this big fire
going if he was actually talking about putting her into the pond.
BRENDAN: Cuzthat night me and Blaine were gonna invite some friends over for ah a
bonfire and he was probably gettin'it ready and then that day I got a call from Travis that said
that he couldn't come and Blaine got a call from his friend that he that they couldn't come.
FASSBENDER: Are you telling me that it wasn't until you guys were in the garage that he
said that he was sonna burn her?
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FASSBENDER: And you're sure that, are you sure about that?
FASSBENDER: OK, then you said that you took her outta the, the of the back of the ah her
vehicle. (Brendan nods "yes") Did you help him do that?
FASSBENDER: And then you said that he went and got the a gun. Right?
FASSBENDER: And he came back in? (Brendan nods "yes") What did he do?
BRENDAN: Like in the head and some in the belly and the stomach.
FASSBENDER: The left side of her head (Brendan nods "yes") and the when he shot her in
the body, where in the body again?
FASSBENDER: OK, what was he saying when he was doing this if anything? What was
his demeanor? Was he calm, was he, what, what was he doing?
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FASSBENDER: Did he ask you to shoot her too or did he tell you ta shoot her?
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: When you got home from school, do you remember if a fire was going
then?
FASSBENDER: When you knocked on the door to go in, was the fire going then?
FASSBENDER: OK. When you knocked on the door to go into Steven's trailer, was it still
light out?
FASSBENDER: OK. You mentioned then you took her, her back out, you shot her, did
anything else happen in this garage that, that is noteworthy cuz remember, remember we've,
we've seen the garage we've got the evidence from the garage, um, did you guys do anlthing
else with her out in the garage?
FASSBENDER: You took her out ta the fire and you're sure you used this creeper thing,
rieht?
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FASSBENDER: That's what you said. (Brendan nods "yes") Did you carry her on that
creeper thing or did you actually push it out there, you guys? Do you know what I mean?
FASSBENDER: You could push someone on there and you can carry that thing or did you
actually ro11 it?
FASSBENDER: OK. Kinda, what would that be similar to, kinda like a um do you know
what I'm thinkin' of?
FASSBENDER: OK.
BRENDAN: Light.
FASSBENDER: And then you put her on the fire you said, (Brendan nods "yes") and you
put other stuff over that over her you said'
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FASSBENDER: Is it at this time that, what do you do after you put her on the on the fire?
FASSBENDER: He did. (Brendan nods "yes") OK, now the fires going, she's on there,
tell, tell, tell me what you're gonna what you're doin' now or what you guys do. I mean it's only
five thirty right now, what are you guys doin'.
BRENDAN: After we put the tires and the branches on, we went to the house and went
in there for a little bit and we went out and he was gonna take the jeep down in the pit so he did
and that's when we covered it with branches and the hood.
FASSBENDER: Did you guys go out by the fire some more that night?
(pause)
BRENDAN: I went over to my house and got the, the golf cart and got, he went to go
pick 'em up and we went over to get the car seat, and we put it by the fire, and waited for it to
burn down, and we threw it on there, and we went to, to the jeep.
FASSBENDER: OK so you, you went and got this car seat. Did you get anything else wh-
when you had the golf cart.
FASSBENDER: Anlhing else that you went and gathered up with the golf cart?
BRENDAN: Just the tires and the wood, and the seat and the
FASSBENDER: OK. Last night you mentioned, or Monday you mentioned, um, Steven
getting' some other things out of the garage. What were those things again?
FASSBENDER: Right. Did he get anything else like that outta the garage?
BRENDAN: To like pile, so he can get it smooth so he can fit the, the rest of the stuff in
there.
FASSBENDER: Did you help him with that? Did you use the rake and the shovel at all?
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BRENDAN: He was like pushing the stuff around so he can put more stuff on it so it's
even.
WIEGERT: Show me what he was doing, you showed me the other day. Can you
show me agatn?
ryIEGERT: Going like that? what kinda stuff was he pushing around?
BRENDAN: (shakes head "no") uh uh. ." "'we're " " a cabinet'
BRENDAN: Just the forehead and the hands and the feet and a little bit of belly.
FASSBENDER: OK. Sometime during that evening,uffi, did someone come down to
Steven's trailer or in that area?
FASSBENDER: You don't you remember seeing, do you remember seeing anyone come
down there, an-an-and talk to Steven for a bit?
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FASSBENDER: How much time did you think it took from when you cut her on the neck
to the time you guys got her out in the garage?
FASSBENDER: After, after the fire was, and she was put in fire, what time did you go
home to your place that night?
BRENDAN: Yeah. Cuz he said he was gonna watch the fire until it bumt down a little
bit more.
FASSBENDER: What did you guys do with Teresa's body after that, after it was burned?
FASSBENDER: How do you, what do you mean by yes, but you don't know what?
FASSBENDER: Did he take some of her body out of that fire pit?
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BRENDAN: Like when the bones were left behind, he would like try to take the shovel
and try to break the bones apart and he would bury 'em, like right in front of the fire almost.
WIEGERT: What do you mean he'd bury them right by the fire?
BRENDAN: Like he dug a hole and he'd put the bones in there and he buried it.
WIEGERT: oK.
BRENDAN: Him.
FASSBENDER: Oh. So he told you that he used the shovel to break up bones?
FASSBENDER: And then buried some of the bones? (Brendan nods "yes") Did he take
some of her bones some. anvwhere else?
BRENDAN: On the other side of the. like that. there was like in the back of the vard-
there was like this steep hill there, like in the pit, there was some there that he threw there.
FASSBENDER: OK, we're gonna, we're in a little bit, we're gonna have you draw on
some sketches and stuff and we're a, we're gonna wanna these places. How do you know that
there were some bones there?
FASSBENDER: And what I'm understanding is then in the back of both your yards or his
yards, down toward into the pit, over that area?
FASSBENDER: Oh, Radandt's pit, (Brendan nods "yes") not into your ah, (Brendan shakes
head
,.no") the salvage yard area? (Brendan shakes head "no") You think you'll be able to show
us that?
FASSBENDER: Anything else that you did with the bones (Brendan shakes head "no") that
he told you or that you helped him, di-did you help him do any of this?
FASSBENDER: We talked about Monday night about, um, bad smells and stuff, do you
remember any smells coming from that fire, after she was put on there?
FASSBENDER: Did Steve make any other phone calls? I know I asked this once before,
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FASSBENDER: OK
WIEGERT: what was Steve wearing when you, you first got to his house?
WIEGERT: OK. You told us before that Jodi called a couple times, right?
WIEGERT: Was that before of after vou had sex with Teresa?
BRENDAN: After.
WIEGERT: No. (Brendan shakes head "no") So Jodi calls, you had already killed
Teresa? Is that correct?
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WIEGERT: Brendan, it's important, you've been honest so far, you need to be honest
all the way through here, OK?
WIEGERT: You don't know where the underwear arc? I mean" do vou have it? If a
you do, it's OK. We understand that.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Why do you think that? (pause) Did he tell you that?
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: You said that you had cut her throat. (Brendan nods "yes") Here's the
thing Brendan, when you cut somebody's throat, they bleed a lot. (Brendan nods "yes") OK?
Am I right?
WIEGERT: She bleed alot, (Brendan nods "yes") so I know you had blood on ya, it's
pretty much impossible not to. Did you have blood on you?
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WIEGERT: Your old blue jacket? What does it say any'thing on it?
BRENDAN: mm huh.
BRENDAN: Probably in the closet when you walk in the house, behind the door.
WIEGERT: OK.
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WIEGERT: OK.
BRENDAN: Starters.
WIEGERT: Starters, OK. (pause) When this is all going on, did Steve say an1'thing
about Teresa?
WIEGERT: You told us two days ago that Steve was angry. Was that true?
BRENDAN: NO.
WIEGERT: So Steve was not angry? (Brendan shakes head "no") So why do you
think he did this to Teresa?
WIEGERT: OK.
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BRENDAN: Too, maybe liked it in there and the real world was probably too noisy for
him, or too, too big for him or somethin'.
WIEGERT: In the garage, in Steve's garage, there were some wires hanging from the
rafters, you remember those?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Very important you be honest here. (Brendan nods "yes") Did you ever
use those for anything?
WIEGERT: Did you use anything else on Teresa, (Brendan shakes head "no") other
than rope?
WIEGERT: OK. Want to draw me a few pictures? (Brendan nods "yes") OK.
FASSBENDER: Brendan, when she's on the bed, was there a lot of blood?
FASSBENDER: Do you recall when the sheets were taken off the bed and stuff that the
blood had soaked through to the mattress pad at all? Or mattress?
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FASSBENDER: You sure that she wasn't taken out to the garage alive and some of the
stuff was done to her out there?
FASSBENDER: Now the worst is over, you're not gonna shock us or anything by tellin' us
if that happened. Cuzl-Ijust have a feeling that something may, may be there. Talk to me.
FASSBENDER: It all happened in the bedroom you said. (Brendan nods "yes") You're
positive of that.
FASSBENDER: Keep in mind that you know, Steven's gonna have his time to tell his story
too. Right?
WIEGERT: Did you turn the mattress over or anything like that?
FASSBENDER: The cleaning of the house, w-ah Brendan, did, did a Steven do some
cleaning in the house?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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WIEGERT: Wn-What about the knife, where is the knife, be honest with me, where's
the knife? It's oK, we need to get that oK? Help us out, where's the knife?
WIEGERT: Cuzhe wouldn't let the knife go. How do you know that?
WIEGERT: Did he wash it off or anything or wipe it off or what did he do with the
knife?
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WIEGERT: OK.
WIEGERT: Big head on it' (B-rendan nods "yes") what kinda, I mean was it like a, a
steak knife or like something you'd use for a deer?
BRENDAN: Black.
WIEGERT: Black. And it was a, could you draw that? you think you could draw
knife? the
(pause)
(door opens)
(door closes)
(pause)
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BRENDAN: .......likethat.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: mm huh.
WIEGERT: Sure. Actually, write it. OK. Um, put the date on there too. It's one,
correction 311103,'06, um, I'm all mixed up with dates today, aren't I? (Brendan nods "yes").
Um the time is ah l:44 p.m. OK. I'm gonna ask you if you'd be would you be willing to draw
the bedroom out for us?
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: If you saw the knife again, would you be able to identify it?
WIEGERT: Why don't you draw out the bedroom, put the bed on there and show me
where the dresser and everything was, the best that you can, and where the door was and all that.
BRENDAN: It's kinda like the door was like risht here.
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WIEGERT: mm huh.
(pause)
WIEGERT: You can do a stick person, that's fine, and how she was laying on there.
(pause) OK and where were the handcuffs?
BRENDAN: yeah.
WIEGERT: OK. Where else, w-what other things are in the bedroom, draw what else
was in there. (pause) OK. Anyhing else you remember? (pause) And that's a closet? And
that's a dresser?
BRENDAN: And like the gu, the gun holder thing was like right here on the wall.
WIEGERT: OK. Why don,t ya label that in. Gun rack maybe or.
WIEGERT: R-A c-K. oK. Anything else? (Brendan shakes head..no,,) wh-where
was the key, where'd you put the key, or where did Steven put the key?
WIEGERT OK. Why don't you put the key there. Anything else you remember in
there? (Brendan shakes head ..no',)
BRENDAN: well I think there was like a nightstand right there so.
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WIEGERT: oK. why don't ya label that. (pause) oK, um, anything else? (Brendan
shakes head "no") Where'd you put her hair?
WIEGERT: OK, why don't you label that. How much hair do you think you cut off of
her?
WIEGERT: OK. Anything else in there? (Brendan shakes head "no") OK, why don't
you sign it, sign your name. (pause) And we'll date it and time it again. (pause) Ah, let see
1:48. OK, and there's one more thing I'm gonna have you draw would be the um, the garuge.
(Brendan nods "yes") OK. Why don't you draw the garage out. (pause) OK, where's the big
door?
WIEGERT: OK, you wanna label that? Was there a small entry door in there? OK,
where, where was her truck parked?
WIEGERT: OK, and it was sticking out the door you said? (Brendan nods "yes")
When you brought 'er outside which door did you bring her through?
WIEGERT: And you said you put her in the truck first, (Brendan nods "yes") is that
correct? (Brendan nods "yes")
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WIEGERT: OK, why don't you draw her body in the area you set her down. OK, um,
is that where, what'd you do to her when you put her there? Or what did Steven do?
WIEGERT: Why don't ya label some other things in there, like a, what else was in that
garage. (pause) OK, was there a snowmobile anywhere in there?
FASSBENDER: Brendan, I don't know if we asked ya, the gun was, you said itwas a .22,
was that a single shot or what type of gun was it, do you remember?
WIEGERT: Why don't you draw where the blood stains would have been.
WIEGERT: And what did those blood stains come from? Like when she was laying
there or
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WIEGERT: You know did he, when he shot her you said how many times.
BRENDAN: Ten.
WIEGERT: Why don't you put an X there and put his initials there. And where were
you standing?
WIEGERT: OK put your initials there. Was there blood anyrvhere else?
WIEGERT: No? All right, why don't you sign it. (door opens) (pause) (door closes)
And put the time in. like. OK. Um, looks good to me.
1:51 looks
FASSBENDER: All right, but, did you want him ta maybe draw the fire pit, or sketch of the
fire pit in the back
FASSBENDER:
WIEGERT: Can you do that? (Brendan nods "yes") We did it the other day so let's,
let's try that. Give that back taya.
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BRENDAN: So like, should I draw like the garage you think there a little bit
WIEGERT: mm huh.
WIEGERT: Draw it in there. (pause) OK. Um, was there, was the dog there yet at
that time?
WIEGERT: Dr-draw the doghouse then, where the dop;house was. And label that too.
OK why don't you label what that was.
WIEGERT: G-A-R-
BRENDAN: Yeah
WIEGERT: A-G-E. OK, um, where'd you get the brush from?
WIEGERT: OK. You said that he had taken some bones (Brendan nods "yes") and put
them in a five gallon pail then he dumped 'em.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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BRENDAN: Probably like, his house was like be a little bit right here
WIEGERT: mm huh.
BRENDAN: He told me that he put 'em I a bucket and he p-threw 'em over there.
WIEGERT: OK. OK, anything else you wanna add in there? (Brendan shakes head
"no") OK, why don't you sign that. (pause)
BRENDAN: Well when we got the seat, we put it right, we set it down right like here.
WIEGERT: Did you sit there and watch the fire burn or anything like that?
BRENDAN: 53?
FASSBENDER: Brendan, gots a few more questions to cover here, (Brendan nods "yes")
then the worst is over, as far as um the questions. Can you describe Steven's house for me? The
color and stuff like that.
BRENDAN: It's like a red and the top is like silver and the bottom is like cement.
FASSBENDER: OK, and where's his house located in relation to say your house.
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BRENDAN: I don't know what direction, but it's about little like 'bout 350 feet away.
FASSBENDER: OK. If you come out your front door, that you can't get into now cuz its
not shoveled, what direction would be left, right straight, back?
FASSBENDER: To the left. OK, and then his garage, how would you describe his garage?
BRENDAN: One
BRENDAN: There's only one big one and one small one.
FASSBENDER: OK.
FASSBENDER: OK, and then the location, and now you drew it here so it's pretty obvious,
(Brendan nods "yes") that the location of the burn pit is, is where? In relation to the garage and
his house, etc?
FASSBENDER: Yeah, what you drew here. Where is that in relation to the garage?
BRENDAN: Straight back from the garage, like in the back o-by the window.
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FASSBENDER: oK. Um, we've got the, we've got the gun, (Brendan nods "yes") now is
there any reason that your DNA or fingerprints would be on that gun?
FASSBENDER: Can you tell me why, i-if Teresa was, was dead when she was in the
garage, why you would shoot or, why he would shoot a dead body.
FASSBENDER: You're just sayin', yo-your guess is that to make sure was dead.
FASSBENDER: Just gonna revisit one thing, when you're in the bedroom, an-an-and you
cut her throat, (Brendan nods "yes") previously you said that you thought she was alive.
(Brendan nods "yes") Is that still your thought on that?
BRENDAN: Cuz she was breathing a little bit. She was like trying ta, ta not tryin' to
breathe as hard as she could, from screamin', screaming a lot.
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WIEGERT: .. .. . .explain that a little bit, you said she was screaming a lot. When was
she screaming a lot?
BRENDAN: Like
WIEGERT: While you doing it, after you were doing it, before you did it?
BRENDAN: Before.
FASSBENDER: When you cut her throat, what was she doing? If any'thing?
FASSBENDER: I wanna-wanna get that straight, she was screaming for help and crying
when you cut her throat?
WIEGERT: Well lets, lets just go back a little bit OK? Tell us what exactly happened
to her, what order it happened in. You said there were basically three things prior to you guys
shooting her. Explain those in, in the order that it happened.
FASSBENDER: OK.
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WIEGERT: OK.
BRENDAN: He did.
BRENDAN: Steven.
WIEGERT: OK.
BRENDAN: And then he choked her and I cut off her hair.
WIEGERT: OK, kinda show me like on your throat where you cut her.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: With your finger, show me how deep you went into her throat.
FASSBENDER: I mean like, like this like that, like that, like that.
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WIEGERT: When Steven stabbed her, tell me again where he stabbed her.
WIEGERT: OK. (Brendan nods "yes") And then he, tell me how he choked her.
Where was he when he choked her?
FASSBENDER: With your hands, show me what, pretend that her neck is there whatever,
show me how he did it.
WIEGERT: He must have had a lot of blood on his hands then huh? (Brendan nods
"yes") How did he get that off his hands?
WIEGERT: Where?
WIEGERT: Did he wipe any blood up with anything? (Brendan shakes head "no")
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BRENDAN: Just that paper towel that he dried his hands with.
FASSBENDER: After you cut her throat, was she still alive?
BRENDAN: Barely.
WIEGERT: Cuz her belly wasn't moving? (Brendan nods "yes") OK.
FASSBENDER: You talked about getting a car seat and a cabinet. (Brendan nods "yes")
Whose idea was that?
BRENDAN: His.
FASSBENDER: When you went and got it, put it by the fire, did you throw it on the fire
when it was time to throw it on the fire?
FASSBENDER: Pardon?
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BRENDAN: He did.
FASSBENDER: In the, in the um salvage yard, there is a skidsteer, you know what that is?
FASSBENDER: Not the crusher, but a skidsteer. It's a, it's like a little tractor thing that
has a bucket or forks on the front of it.
FASSBENDER: You know where that, you know what that is?
FASSBENDER: Did Steven use that to ah dig his fire pit? Do you know?
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BRENDAN: Like he was trying to runaway, trying ta,tryingto figure out when, how to
get away from the cops.
WIEGERT: Did he tell you anything about this as far as, what did he tell you after
this?
BRENDAN: He didn't tell me nothin', (shakes head "no") he was just trying to leave.
WIEGERT: OK
BRENDAN: And then grandpa said that if you, you, if you're gonna try to leave, then
that means you did it. (pause) So he sat back down..
FASSBENDER: Anyone else in the family, up north, say anything to him like that or about
that type of stuffl
FASSBENDER: You said um, (pause) I-I've got some tough questions for you oK?
(Brendan nods "yes") Ah, but just be honest. I need you to, to the best of your memory, describe
Teresa's body to me.
FASSBENDER: Yes.
FASSBENDER: Probably when she was alive, did she have any scars, marks, tattoos, stuff
like that. that vou can remember?
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BRENDAN: Brown.
FASSBENDER: Do you remember her breasts? Were they, were they, did she have big
breasts, small breasts?
BRENDAN: Medium.
FASSBENDER: Do you ah, remember what color eyes she had or anything like that?
FASSBENDER: Watch? (Brendan shakes head "no") (pause) Any items like that?
WIEGERT: Not other than that no. I just got one thing on the end.
FASSBENDER: OK. (pause) We know that Teresa had a, a tattoo on her stomach, do you
remember that?
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FASSBENDER: OK.
WIEGERT: Probably. Um, Brendan, how do you feel about this now?
BRENDAN: That I helped 'em and I shouldn't of, and sorry for her family that she lost
their daughter.
WIEGERT: How does Steven feel about this after. do vou know?
FASSBENDER: Steven, er Steven. Brendan, look at me. W-Why did you do this? Why
did you do your part of it?
FASSBENDER: I'm giving you the opportunity to tell me why you did this.
(pause)
WIEGERT: Everybody has a reason for doing things. What was your reason for this?
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BRENDAN: Sex.
FASSBENDER: During this whole thing, did you ever think about trying to stop Steven?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Mark just asked you a little while ago, if he ever threatened you. Now
earlier you had said, Monday, you talked about something like that and now you said no. What's
the truth?
BRENDAN: He didn't threaten me, I just thought that he was, he coulda, cuz he's
bigger than me, that he could probably beat me up and that.
FASSBENDER: And you admit you knew this that you had told us that Monday?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: But now you sayin' that didn't happen? (Brendan nods "yes") Did Steve
say anything else to you, offer you anything for doing this or keeping your mouth shut (Brendan
shakes head "no") or anything like that?
FASSBENDER: Did he tell you anything about sayin' anything about this to anyone?
(Brendan shakes head "no") He just let you go into the, the bed that night and didn't say
anything to you like about this?
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BRENDAN: Sometime.
WIEGERT: Did you ever think about us coming over to talk with you? Did you wolry
about that at all?
BRENDAN: (nods'oyes") Yeah. I was scared the first time I had ta go, a, when I was
up north talkin' to them people.
WIEGERT: mm huh.
FASSBENDER: Had Steven told you some things to tell, to say to the police?
BRENDAN: He just told me not to say anything, Ihat a, that his lawyer said not to say
anything.
FASSBENDER: If Steven tells us that you did all of this, that, that yo-you ha-had started it
and had killed her and stuff, is that true?
WIEGERT: Don't forget your Pepsi down there. (Brendan nods "yes") We're gonna
step out for a couple of more minutes OK? (Brendan nods "yes")
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WIEGERT: OK
(pause)
(door opens)
(door closes)
(pause)
(long pause)
(door opens)
DENNIS JACOBS: Do you need anything? No bathroom, no nothin'? Do you wanna cookie
or somethin', another sandwich? (Brendan shakes head "no")
BRENDAN: No.
DENNIS JACOBS: OK, they'll be with you shortly. (Brendan nods "yes")
(door closes)
(long pause)
FASSBENDER: Hey bud, do you need anything? There's another sandwich out there.
You sure? (Brendan shakes head "no")
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FASSBENDER: You ate that whole przzathe other night, and you sure you don't want
another sandwich? (Brendan shakes head "no")
FASSBENDER: Probably not. I mean we're at two thirty already, and schools over at
what, three? (Brendan nods "yes")
BRENDAN: 3:05
FASSBENDER: Well, we're pretty, we're pretty much done. We have a couple follow up
things ta ask ya, but its pretty much done.
FASSBENDER: OK?
(door closes)
(long pause)
FASSBENDER: Brendan,
WIEGERT: Go ahead.
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FASSBENDER: What do you think's gonna happen? What do you think should happen
right now?
FASSBENDER: You know obviously that we're police officers. OK. (Brendan nods
"yes") And be because of what you told us, we're gonna have ta arrest you. Did you kinda
figure that was coming? For for what you did we we can't let you go right now. The law will
not let us. And so you're not gonna be able to go home tonight. All right?
WIEGERT: Your mom is here, OK? (Brendan nods "yes") Would you like ta talk to
her?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Do you have .... before we bring her in, do you have any other questions
right now? (Brendan shakes head "no") You do understand that you're under arrest now?
(Brendan nods "ves")
BRENDAN: So could I call my girlfriend and tell her that I couldn't come today?
FASSBENDER: We'll give ya an opportunity ta to do that, OK? (Brendan nods "yes") Did
you kinda, and be honestly the after telling us what you told us you kinda figured this was
coming? (Brendan nods "yes") Yeah? (Brendan nods "yes")
WIEGERT: We don't know that at this time, but let me tell ya something Brendan, you
did the right thing. OK. (Brendan nods "yes") By being honest, you can at least sleep at night
right now. Cuz, I'm sute you've had some difficulty with that. (Brendan nods "yes") So you did
the right thing here, by telling us what happened. OK. (Brendan nods "yes") Just remember that
in the future, OK, you need to be honest. (Brendan nods "yes")
FASSBENDER: Your cooperation and help with us is gonna work in your favor. I can't
say what its gonna do or where your gonna end up but its gonna work in your favor and we
appreciate your continued cooperation. (Brendan nods "yes") We talked to your mom about
going out to the house and going in the house and gettin' a few items and about you going out
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there with us and her and um pointing out those areas that we wanted ya to point out. Is that all
right? (Brendan nods'oyes") OK.
WIEGERT: Do you know where those shoes are that you were wearing that day? The
red shoes?
WIEGERT: OK. All right. We'll have your mom come in for a few minutes, OK?
All right.
(pause)
FASSBENDER: Barbara give me your coffee, it's in your hands right now.
BARB JANDA: Huh? Did he make you do it? (Brendan nods "yes") I woulda walked out.
That's what I woulda did. (crying during pause) Why didn't you just tell 'em, no? Huh?
BARB JANDA: You knew it was wrong, right? (Brendan nods "yes") (pause) Do you
know you can't come home? Do you know where you're going? (pause)
BARB JANDA: I don't know. I do not know. (pause) Do I have ta get some him an
attorney, or will they do it for me?
FASSBENDER: The court will assign one for him or the state will pay for his attorney if he
can't pay for it, but obviously you have a right at any time to try and get him one or get him one.
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BARB JANDA: I tried for a public defender not too long ago and I couldn't get cuzl've
got a house.
FASSBENDER: Well there's different, different ways that they determine you know based
on, on what you've been arrested for and stuff like that there's different levels of, of money that
you need, you need they, they will determine and I don't know what that is or how they
determine that.
(pause)
BARB JANDA: Are you gonna be OK, are you sure? Huh. Look at me. Why didn't you
tell me? Stuff like that is not no secret. I don't care if he told you if he said ta keep it a secret,
it's still not a secret. I don't keep secrets from yous. Do I? Don't worry about my belly, I
haven't eaten in two days.
FASSBENDER: I didn't even hear it. Did you want a sandwich, Barb?
BARB JANDA: No.
BARB JANDA: No. I'd probably just throw it up anyhow. Am I gonna be able ta see
him? Later on after he gets where he's gotta go?
FASSBENDER: I don't know ah on their policies and when they allow visitation and stuff
like that. We can check with Mark, he's gonna know Sheboygan's polices or whatever. With,
with juveniles there's probably a good chance but I just don't wanna say right now.
FASSBENDER ON THE PHONE: Hello, Tom here. Good how are you?
BRENDAN:
BRENDAN:
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BRENDAN: Nothin'
FASSBENDER ON THE PHONE: All right if, if we go in tomorrow and I think we need
someone, I'll call you. All right?
BRENDAN:
BARB JANDA: Ohh. (door opens and closes) Are you regrettin' it now? (pause) You had
a whole life ahead of you Brendan. Just because he's so demanding, doesn't mean you gotta do
the stuff he says. Right?
BARB JANDA: You're goin'to juvie, that's where you're going, to a juvie jail. About 45
minutes away.
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BRENDAN: Like if his story's like different, like I never did nothin, or somethin,.
WIEGERT The only way we can have you talk to him is if he calls you or if its, you
know, you go there for visiting.
WIEGERT: oK. That's the only way. I-I have no other way of, you know, I-I can,t
hook you up to him or anything like that. I'm not allowed to do that.
irn" tutt, you, you can do
what you want or if you go there for visiting,
lrou know that's up to you.
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WIEGERT: No we told him we needed to know the truth. We've been doing this job a
long time Barb and we can tell when people aren't telling the truth. And, in
my-heopinion, he,d
never be able to live with himself if he didn't tell somebody. There's no way,
could,ve live
with that. Nobody could live with that. I think Brendan knows that.
WIEGERT: Brendan, you need to use the bathroom or anything? (Brendan shakes head
tono")
WIEGERT: As soon as we can leave here, we'l1 go out there. I don't think we're
gonna bring Brendan out there though. I-I just don't think that's a good idea.
I don't think he
needs to be exposed to that or be out there anymore. (door opens and closes) It's
not gonna do
him any good.
BARB JANDA: So what you're sayin' is if, when he gets out, it wouldn't be a good idea
for him to be there, at all.
WIEGERT: I-You know, I can't tell you where for you guys to live, but what do you
think? Do you think it's a good idea for him to next where this stuff occurred?
BARB JANDA: I-I don't wanna be there, but I can't afford another place.
WIEGERT: I know.
WIEGERT: I understand.
WIEGERT: You're in a bad spot an-and I wish I had some answers for you. If there's
somethin' I can do to help ya, I certainly will. (pause) Maybe you should look into movin' the
house.
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WIEGERT: We-who knows, you don't even know what it'll cost, depends on where
you move it.
BARB JANDA: Quite a bit. (pause) An extra $16,000 for another basement. (pause) So
what did you all help him with? Can I ask? Will you tell me? Brendan? Did you do it
willingly? Huh? (Brendan shakes head "no") ( pause) He did tell me one time, Steven, he told
me that probably one or two of my kids would not graduate.
BARB JANDA: Yeah. This was before this all even happened. So he must have had it all
planned.
BARB JANDA: You don't know how much hatred I got right now.
WIEGERT: You're right, I don't. I can only imagine. I-I can't even put myself in
your shoes Barb, I can't.
BARB JANDA: My oldest son is gonna flip. I can't even te.tl him. I can't.
WIEGERT: Brendan?
WIEGERT: No.
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WIEGERT oK' All right, do you want to be left alone with him
doesn't matter at this point? for five minutes or it
WIEGERT: OK.
yff:ffi;. have to' Barb you have to. You've got other children you,ve
"ou gotta
(pause)
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FASSBENDER: Did you want another water Brendan? (Brendan shakes head "no")
(long pause)
(door opens)
(background voices)
(pause)
JACOBS: Brendan, my name is Dennis Jacobs and I-l'm a detective with Manitowoc
County. Do you have any weapons or anything on you?
BRENDAN: Just some stuff that I can give to my mom, like a CD player and that.
JACOBS: Ththat wouldn't be a weapon though. You have like a little pocket knife
anything like that?
JACOBS: Can you stand up, I just want to pat you down, real quick, just to make
sure. Well that's nothing that gonna hurt me an, OK that's fine. OK. There's nothin', nothin'
else in your pockets at all? OK. You have a shirt, you have a pocket up here.
BRENDAN: No.
JACOBS: Yeah, yo-you can put it back in your pockets too if you want, it's up to
you. Whatever you wanna do. Actually if you wanna listen to your headphones, you can go
ahead and do that too.
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(door closes)
(door opens)
WIEGERT
.where did ya have it, in your pocket? Holy christmas. All right. why
don't we go. OK. Bring that along.
FASSBENDER: .side or
WIEGERT: OK.....
WIEGERT: No.
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At approximately 1555 hours, I made contact with Honorable Judge WILLIS in the judge's
chambers and presented the Search Warrant and Affidavit.
At approximately 1601 hours, the Honorable Judge WILLIS and I signed and dated the Search
Warrant.
At approximately 1834 hours, the Search Warrant on the trailer and garage were executed. I
assisted in documenting the evidence that was taken as well as the time and evidence tag number
recorded with each individual item that was seized. Along with assisting with the logging of that
information, I also documented the times of the glove changes and those are as follows:
On03102106, the search resumed and again I assisted with recording the time and evidence tag
number with the items that were seized. Regloving occurred again at the following times:
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It should also be noted that on 03102106, Special Agents KIM SKORLINSKI, JOSEpH
KAPITANY and DEB STRAUSS also assisted with the search of the trailer to locate any
possible items indicated on the Search Warrant.
At approximately 1410 hours, it should be noted that a white plastic garbage bag in the norlh
bedroom closet was located. In that white plastic garbage bag contained 500 loose boxes of
Blazer .22longrifle ammunition. Also were 500 rounds in separate boxes contained in a big box
of Blazer .22longrifle ammunition. Included in the bag was one box of Spitfire containing two
bullets and also several musket balls. These items were not taken into evidence: however. thev
were photographed and noted where they were located.
At approximately 1440 hours, I took into my custody an eight millimeter videotape from Det.
DAVID REMIKER from the MANITowoC COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
containing video of the pre-search and post-search of STEVEN AVERY's trailer. That item was
evidence tagged and later placed into evidence.
on03102106, I (Inv. BALDWIN) made contact with Honorable Judge FoX at the
MANITOWOC COTINTY JUDGE'S CHAMBER. Honorable Judge FOX did sign a Search
Warrant for the recovery of BRENDAN DASSEY's DNA and also palm and fingerprints. That
Search Warrant was signed at approximately 1518 hours.
At approximately 1540 hours, that Search Warrant was tumed over to Special Agent KIM
SKORLINSKI to deliver to Special Agent TOM FASSBENDER.
On 03i03/06 at approximately 0830 hours, I (Inv. BALDWIN) made contact with District
Attorney KENNETH KRATZ and Assistant District Attorney JEFFREY FROEHLICH and
informed them there was not an Affidavit faxed to the MANITOWOC COUNTY CLERK's
OFFICE for Honorable Judge FOX to review.
At this time, I assisted the district attomey's office with preparing a new Search Warrant for the
DNA, fingerprints and palm prints of BRENDAN DASSEY. That Search Warrant was prepared
and personally escorted to Honorable Judge FOX.
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At approximately 1022 hours, Honorable Judge FOX signed the Search Warrant for
BRENDAN's DNA, as well as I signed and dated the Search Warrant. Two copies of the Search
Warrant from 03/02106 were destroyed.
The Search Warrant was then turned over to Inv. WIEGERT to serve on BRENDAN DASSEY.
At approximately 1325 hours, the items that were seized from the Search Warrant were recorded
and a Retum of Officer form was completed by myself and signed. The original Search Warrant,
a copy of the Search Warrant and the Return of Search Warrant were tumed over to Inv.
WIEGERT to file with the clerk of court's office in Manitowoc countv.
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Inv' BALDWIN and I then began a search of the trailer beginning with the south
;S;}T"N'
At 1905 hours' I found ahair fiber on the
end table, which was to the east of the
labeled Item #8341. bed. This was
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Item #8348 was a powder horn located on the northwest side of the gun rack. This was
recovered al1949 hours. It should be reporled there were several items hanging off of the gun
rack, which were collected after the gun rack was wrapped up and placed into evidence.
Item #8349 was a black colored hanger hanging from the gun rack with the powder horn. This
was recovered at 1951 hours.
Also, at 1951 hours, Item #8350, a brass colored hanger was recovered.
Item #8351, which were several seashells on a string, were recovered hanging offthe gun rack.
Item#8352 was a gold colored necklace recovered at 1958 hours, which was near the gun rack.
Item #8353 was a hula grass skirt, green in color, recovered from the gun rack at 1959 hours.
Item #8354 was a hair fiber on the nightstand on the east side of the bed recovered at 2005 hours.
Item #8355 was a nightstand on the east side of the bed recovered at 2011 hours.
Item #8356 was a light switch cover on the north wall in the south bedroom recover ed, at 2022
hours. The switch was also recovered with the light and screws.
Item #8357 was a ceramic lion, which was on the floor next to the sleepers along the east wall in
the AVERY bedroom.
Item #8359 was a left foot slipper near the east wall in the south bedroom recovered at2l0l
hours.
Item#8392 was a box spring from the south bedroom recovered at 2038 hours.
Item #8358 was an empty bleach bottle in the bathroom just north of the south bedroom on top of
the dryer recovered at2057 hours.
Item #8360 was a right foot slipper recovered aI2102 hours from the south bedroom near the
east wall.
Item #8361 was a headboard from the bed in the south bedroom recovered at2107 hours.
Item #8367 was a footboard from the south bedroom off the same bed recovered at2120 hours.
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Item #8363 was a right-side rail board from the bed assembly
in the south bedroom recovered at
2129 hours.
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Item #8376, a brown moulding, labeled #1, was recovered near the doorway in the south
bedroom on the north wall at 1100 hours.
Item#8377, a brown moulding, labeled #2,located in the middle of the north wall in the south
bedroom, was recovered at 1106 hours.
Item #8378, a brown moulding, labeled #3, located on the west side of the north wall in the south
bedroom, was recovered at 1 108 hours.
IIem#8379, a brown panel, labeled #1, which was on the east portion of the north wall in the
south bedroom, was recovered at 1122 hours.
Item #8380, a brown panel, labeled #2,which was on the middle portion of the north wall in the
south bedroom, was recovered at 1124 hours.
Item #83 8 I , a brown panel, labeled #3, which was the west portion of the north wall in the south
bedroom, was recovered at 1127 hours.
Item #8382, a Chicago Cutlery knife, Model 665, was recovered from the butcher block in the
kitchen at 1215 hours by Sgt. TYSON.
Item #8330, a Chicago Cutlery knife, Model 655, was recovered from the butcher block in the
kitchen at 1222 hours.
Item #8331, an Ekco brand stainless steel knife, was recovered from the butcher block on the
kitchen counter at1226 hours.
Item#8332, a Chicago Cutlery knife, Model 61S, was recovered from the butcher block on the
kitchen counter at 1229 hours.
Item#7966, a brown colored butcher block knife holder was recovered from the kitchen counter
at 1232 hours.
Item #8384, a brown handled knife from the kitchen top drawer right of the sink, was recovered
at 1249 hours.
Item #8385, a brown handled knife was recovered from a cupboard in the top drawer right of the
sink at 1255 hours.
It should be noted that Item #'s 8382, 8330, 8331, 8332,7966,8383, 8384, 8385 were recovered
by Sgt.TYSON.
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Item #8386, a mattress, was recovered from the north bedroom at 1310 hours.
Item #8387, a box spring mattress, was recovered at 1316 hours from the north bedroom.
Item #8388, a metal bedframe, was recovered from the north bedroom at 1325 hours.
Item #8389, a Tru Test paint thinner 32 oz. can, was recovered from the closet in the norlh
bedroom at 1335 hours.
Item #8390, a can of Oops brand paint remover, was recovered from the closet in the north
bedroom at1339 hours.
Item #8391, a drain trap from the bathroom sink, was recovered at 1401 hours.
rtem#7967, a drain trap from the kitchen sink, was recovered at 1404 hours.
rtem #7968, a drain pipe from the kitchen sink, was recovered at 1404 hours.
We then concluded the evidence collection procedures at the AVERY trailer as outlined in the
Search Warrant. All of the items with the exception of the metal bedframe were wrapped or
placed into appropriate containers, sealed and labeled. The bedframe was labeled with an
evidence tag.
It should be noted we cleared from the scene at approximately 1530 hours on O3lQ2l06.
It should also be noted that I did download all of the digital images that I had taken at the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
It should also be noted that we were accompanied by Special Agent KIM SKORLINSKI, Special
Agent DEB STRAUSS and Special Agent JOSEPH KAPITANY of the WISCONSIN
DIVISION OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. They had come on scene at approximately
1045 hours.
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On03102106 at 1530 hours, I was then requested to return the trailer with evidence to the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. Prior to leaving the property, the rear and
side doors to the trailer were padlocked by Sgt. BILL TYSON of the CALUMET COLINTy
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. Sgt. TYSON was the only person to have the keys for the
padlocks. I arrived at the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT at 1619 hours. I
then parked the trailer on the north side of the sheriff s department south of the detached garage.
The trailer remained locked the entire time it was transported from the AVERY property to the
sheriff s department.
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Lisa L. Novachek
DOB 10/27t72
1436 Terrace Ct.
Two Rivers, WI 54241
Telephone number: 793-8483
Cell phone number: 901-8349
At approximately 1859 hours, I made personal contact with LISA at the City of Manitowoc
SUBWAY. LISA said she has been employed with WISCONSIN ALUMINUM FOUNDRy for
approximately the last ten years. Her job is a payroll coordinator in the personnel department.
She said she does know SCOTT TADYCH and he has worked there approximately the same
length of time that she has. She said she has never had any conversation or personal contact with
him; however, she has heard through SCOTT TADYCH's foreman on second shift, KEITH
SCHAEFER (ph), some information about him. LISA said that on the date of TERESA
HALBACH's homicide, SCOTT TADYCH did not show up for work. She said she did hear him
say that he was going to see his mother in the hospital. LISA said around the time of STEVEN
AVERY's arrest, another girl that works with her, by the name of CHRIS GRAFF (ph), had
taken a phone call from a hysterical young teenage kid asking for SCOTT TADYCH. SCOTT
was paged, took the phone call and left shortly after that. SCOTT TADYCH's foreman, KEITH
SCHAEFER, informed LISA that he was a nervous wreck when he left.
LISA stated that in the last couple of days, she has been hearing several rumors about SCOTT
TADYCH and his involvement with BARBARA JANDA. She said the other day, KEITH
SCHAEFER had approached her and she could not remember if SCOTT had directly told him or
overheard the workers talking about SCOTT TADYCH. She said he had made a comment that
there was some blood on one of the boy's clothes and that it had gotten mixed up with his
laundry. LISA said she would attempt to find the date that SCOTT had left early after receiving
that phone call and would check into possible phone records to inquire the phone number of the
call that he received.
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On 03104106, I did contact LISA at home. She indicated she had to go to a different building to
search for the payroll records for the month of November. She said the only day she does know
for sure he wasn't there was 10131105. LISA said SCOTT had been working several twelve hour
shifts during that particular time and may have just worked an eight hour day when he received
his phone call and punched out. LISA said she would do some checking to make sure of the
dates and times he had left.
I informed LISA I would not be available the week of March 6 -10 and that if she did have any
information, either Inv. WIEGERT or Inv. DEDERING may follow up with her on that
information.
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Upon arrival at the scene, I was informed the residence for that address, as well as a detached
garage, were to be searched. I was requested to keep a log of all subjects entering and exiting the
residence. I observed as Deputy RICK RIEMER and Inv. WENDY BALDWIN of the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT unlocked the secondary front door of the
residence and entered it securing the residence and assuring there were no individuals inside.
This occurred at 1834 hours and they were the first two individuals I saw enter the residence. I
then kept a written log of each individual as they entered or exited the residence.
I did not leave this post at all during the evening and observed everybody that entered and exited.
At 2300 hours, I was informed by Det. DAVE REMIKER of the MANITOWOC CO1INTy
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT that a small sledgehammer had been placed in the sill of the patio
door, which would be on the backside of the residence, preventing anybody from entering
through that door if they were able to unlock it. He exited the residen ce at 2310 hours and there
were no additional people that entered or exited the residence after that time on 03/01/06.
I was relieved by Cpl. LESLIE LEMIEUX and Deputy NICHOLAS J. SABLICH who were
there to guard both the residence and the detached garage for the remainder of the evening.
Deputy SABLICH was relieved by Deputy KENNETH R. MATUSZAK approximately one hour
later.
I retumed to the residence the following day, 03102106, at approximately 0841 hours. I took over
guarding the residence once agatnrelieving Deputy MATUSZAK and Cpl. LEMIEUX. Subjects
began re-entering the residence at 0848 hours.
I returned back to my post at approximately 0955 hours. I stayed at my post until 1137 hours, at
which time all subjects inside the residence exited for a lunch break. I noted the last subiect had
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exited by initialing off on that item. I was once again relieved by Communications Officer
scorr scHwARZ for approximately 15 minutes and he indicated nobody had entered the
residence on his watch.
At 1201 hours, the officers searching the residence began re-entering the residence in my
presence. I continued on watch until 1502 hours, at which time I observed Sgt. BILL TySON of
the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT secure both front doors.
Each page of the logs for both days are numbered and dated and are stapled in order divided by
day. Each of these logs was tumed over to the evidence custodian.
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ffiihil:ffi
went to the a
We met witH
ld be noted weFere informed bv school
counselors prior to meeting ad come to them about information
Itated to us that every time she would ask BRENDAN if there was something wrong,
hewou1djustshrughisshoulders.Itshouldbenotedwhenintervi"*i''nIhebecame
very emotional and upset and crying at times during thg.jllgry,l to us at one
point that STEVEN had done a lot of "things to her."-tatesryhsgs-he was up north in
MarinetteCounty,shewasathergrandmaandgrandfuft51]g1bi''.(trtatedshewas
cleaningtherefrigeratorinhergrandmJ:lt.#T:15;.G'.flud"o'n"upto
her, grabbed her, pulled her towards him
kisslikewhenmomkisseshergood",,,lryt-m;J"ffi:THiJff:I"n.
it happened last summer on a weekend. She stated that while this was going on, BRENDAN was
in the other room in the cabin.
lltelayed that another time when they were at the shop at the salvage yard, they were in
the bluq bgikllng and STEVEN came up to her again and started kissing her on the cheeks and
hps.Jfsiated she again told him to get off of her and pushed him away. She states at this
time, she was sitting on the "mule" which is some type of all terrain vehicle, which they have at
the salvage yard.
w" urt"aJuout specific statements she had marte to the counselors about BRENDAN
telling her inEffitionabout TERESA HALBACH (Iinitially stated to us she could not
remember any of the statements and then again broke down crying while she was telling us that.
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admitted to us that BRENDAN had told her that she (meaning TERESA
5tJ:ll,"l,'*il';illxlffi
STEVEN hit in her with
li"1i:',:::Tffi il,':;l',:i;ilffi,JJ:iiX';
elbow
the boob his bis
and said she had boobies.
Wequestion"ilastoherstatementstothecounse1orsaboutbloodcomingoutofthe
gurug" noot
]tated she had heard this from her dad, that her dad had possibly seen
blood comins out of the floor.
Jlso stated her dad had mentioned seeing blood on the emergency thing on the garage
door. I took the elpergency thing to mean the emergency pull or release for the garage door. I
cxpiarncti rno,,rlJonu ,h. srareo rnar ls .^u.rru whar sne meanr.
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Ilnen provided us with a written statement as to what BRENDAN had told her. The
written statement will be included in this repoft.
trtatedshethinksshe.-mavhavewrittensomeofthisinherdiary.Atthattime,Special
AgentFASSBENDE-Ra1cl'trndhermo-t!rer,C1.NDY'1henwenttoherroomwhere
we did look through her diary, howevei, were unable to find anything written about what
BRENDAN had told her.
Investigation continues.
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Upon arrival, we did meet with BRENDAN DASSEY and Correctional Officer JOEL
HARMELINK in a room at the detention center. I informed BRENDAN I had received
correspondence from his attorney, LEN KACHINSKY, allowing us to take palm prints from
him. It should be noted I did receive an e-mail from LEN KACHINSKY, dated Thursday,
03109106, at 5:57 p.m. The following is the verbatim of the e-mail. It states: Mark, this
confirms that you may take an additional set of palm prints from Mr. Dassey without the
necessity oJ a Search Warrant. I would request you not do so until Friday afternoon at the
earliest since I am meeting with Brendan on Friday morning. The e-mail is from LEN
KACHINSKY from SISSON & KACHINSKY LAW OFFICES. I did provide BRENDAN a
copy of the e-mail I received from Attomey KACHINSKY.
I did read for BRENDAN the memo, which I had gotten from his attomey. BRENDAN did not
object and stated we, in fact, could take his palm prints. The right palm print was taken from
BRENDAN at 1438 hours by Correctional Officer JOEL HARMELINK. The left palm print
was taken from BRENDAN DASSEY at 1441 hours by Correctional Officer JOEL
HARMELINK. The palm prints were taken into possession by me and were placed under
Property Tag#9220.
The palm prints will be turned over to DCI Special Agent FASSBENDER for transport to the WI
STATE CRIME LAB.
Investigation continues.
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File Number
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Investigation continues.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
ROBIN G. KUMBALEK
DOB 08t24t62
7222Rocky K Lane
Two Rivers, WI 54241
Phone 920 -3 23 -67 47 (cellular)
Investigation continues.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
F""dbeenadvisedhewasnotasuspectinthismatterandweweremerely1ookingfor
information from him. He indicated he was a friend of BRENDAN DASSEy,s
for
approximately two years at t.urt.
Jindicates n" i, .u.,.ntly in tenth grade at MISHICoT
HIGH.
IoeniedanyknowledgeofTERESAHALBACH,sdeath.Hestatedthereare..no
pictures."
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At approximately 9:22
|.m, Special Agent HEIMERL did circle with chalk a second area
located in the garage, which contained u rignt luminescent
gtow on the ,.-"rr,-gu.age floor. This
area circled wasthe west north area of the garage floor.
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The incident group time log was maintained by Deputy GARY SCHULTZ of the CALUMET
COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. Inv. STEIER will submit the time loe into evidence
for safekeeping.
Prior to entry into the locked garage of STEVEN AVERY, Det. DENNIS JACOBS of the
MANITOWOC COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT did video the outside of the garage.
After the videotape of the outside of the garuge was completed, the lock on the door to the
garage was cut by DCI Special Agent KEVIN HEIMERL. Special Agent HEIMERL opened the
door and Det. JACOBS videoed the inside of the garage prior to any investigators or deputies
entering the garage. Time of Det. JACOBS' entry into the garcge was noted by Deputy
SCHULTZ at 1826 hours. Det. JACOBS concluded the videotaping of the garage at
approximately 1 830 hours.
I (lnv. STEIER) did enter the garage along with Special Agent HEIMERL and Inv. JOHN
DEDERING of the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT at 1920 hours. It
should be noted that all photographs inside the garage were taken by Special Agent HEIMERL.
The following is an approximate measurement of various items located within the garage:
o Item #1, Property Tag #8605, Black Jack creeper, 7' east of the west wall, 1'4" north of
the south wall, collected by Inv. STEIER at2l44 hours
o Item #2, Property Tag #8606, one plastic jug, name brand Clean Strip paint thinner, 13'8"
east of the west wall, 2'0" north of the south wall
The following measurements were to the middle of chalked areas on the cement floor of the
garage:
o Evidence Marker #1,6'6" west of the east wall, 9'4" north of the south wall
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Evidence Marker #2,6'8" north of the south wail, g' west of the east wall
Evidence Marker #3 , 9' 4" north of the south wall, r0,2,' west of the east wall
Evidence Marker #4,6'4" north of the south wall, l2' west of the east wall
Evidence Marker #5,7' 10" north of the south wall, 13,3', west of the east wall
Evidence Marker #6,70'north of the south wall, 16,4', west of the east wall
Evidence Marker #7 , yellow circle, I 1 ' 1 0" west of the east wall, 3 '4" north of the south
wall
Evidence Marker #8, yellow circle, 4'2" west of the east wall, 7'3" north of the south
wall
Item #3, Property Tag#8607, Evidence Marker #9, a bullet fragment, 14,10,, west of the
east wall, 20'6" north of the south wall, collected by Inv. STEIER at2010 hours
Item#4, Property Tag #8608, Evidence Marker #10, one brass shell casing, 8'3" west of
the east wall, 18' north of the south wall, collected by Inv. STEIER at 201g hours
Item #5, Property Tag #8609, Evidence Marker #11, one brass shell casing, l'7,9,, west of
the east wall, 18'4" north of the south wall, collected by In'u'. STEIER at2025 hours
The following is the approximate times the concrete flooring was collected after testing a sample
of the floor with the iackhammer:
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Inv. STEIER was assisted in the collection of concrete flooring chunks by Det. JACOBS of the
MANITOWOC COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT who wrote the times the concrere was
collected on the outside of the paper bags. The concrete flooring was collected near a crack in
the flooring. An arrow was drawn to point to the crack line in the floor in which investigators
believed substances or cleaning substances may have fallen into. Det. JACOBS did inform Inv.
STEIER that he had written the first two bags Cl and C2 as 2010 and 2015 hours when. in fact.
the bags should be 2210 and 2215 hours.
The concrete area collected was approximately 18 inches wide when completed. The area of
concrete, which was removed, was approximately starting at the following dimensions 20 feet
north of the south wall, 10 feet six inches north of the south wall, ending at 10 feet six inches
north of the south wall, starting at 11 feet eight inches west of the east wall and ending 13 feet
west of the east wall. The concrete taken was approximately five inches thick. Investigators
ended the search of the garage for the day on 03101106 at2312 hours. The door was locked by
Special Agent HEIMERL with a new padlock. Inv. STEIER retained possession of the key until
return to the search on03102106.
On03102106 at 0840 hours, entry was made by Inv. STEIER of the CALUMET COLTNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT and DCI Special Agent KEVIN HEIMERL. Inv. STEIER did
open the lock on the garage door. Investigators began the search and continued the search from
the previous day.
It should also be noted there was a sheriff s department deputy at the scene the entire time from
the beginning of the initial Search Warrant until the end of the Search Warrant.
o Item #T,Property Tag#861 1, gas can containers, collected by Inv. STEIER starting on
the northeast wall of the garage. The first gas can had no nozzle. Working to the south
of the garage, the second gas can contained anozzle, the third gas can (up on a blue car
center console) was an Eagle brand. The fourth gas can container was a one gallon red
gas can containing no nozzle and the fifth gas can on the east wall was a red five gallon,
no nozzle gas can. Scribed on the side of the red gas can handle was STEVE AVERY,
also scribed STEVE AVERY on the side. A red metal gas can with the word "ROLLIE"
was located by Inv. STEIER on the west wall behind the door to the garage. An
additional red marine gas can was located by Inv. STEIER on a lathe machine on the
west wall of the garuge. A gas can on the east wall between the El Tigre snowmobile
was a one gallon red container with a white substance on top with nozzle. All gas cans
were collected by Inv. STEIER.
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o Item #2,Property Tag #8606, paint thinner containers, collected by Inv. STEIER. Paint
thinner name brand Clean Strip (one gallon container) located on the south side of the
garage on top of a workbench. Also taken by Inv. STEIER was one paint thinner, name
brand Reseal, (one gallon container) located under the workbench on the south wall of
the garage by Inv. STEIER. Inv. STEIER did have to wait to collect the paint thinner
containers and gas can containers to find a plastic bag large enough to bag the containers.
The containers were collected when Inv. STEIER had received proper bags to transport
the containers in. At approximately i214 hours, the gasoline cans and paint thinner cans
were collected by Inv. STEIER.
o Item #8, Property Tag#8612, one kitchen paring knife with wooden handle located by
Inv. STEIER on a DeWalt radial arrn saw. The knife was collected at approximately
0916 hours by Inv. STEIER.
o Item #9, Property Tag#8673, Evidence Marker #13, a debris pile located by the
snowmobile and jack stand in which a red item was collected at approximately 0930
hours by DCI Special Agent HEIMERL.
Item #10, Property Tag#8614, Evidence Marker #14, one brass shell casing, located
under the El Tigre snowmobile, collected at approximately 0936 hours by Inv. STEIER.
Item #11, Property Tag #8615, Evidence Marker #15, one brass shell casing, located
under sled track, collected by Det. REMIKER of the MANITOWOC COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT at approximately 0950 hours.
Item#72, Property Tag#8616, Evidence Marker #16, one brass shell casing, located by a
screwdriver on the east wall in front of the snowmobile, collected at 0955 hours by Inv.
STEIER.
Item #13, Property Tag#86I7, Evidence Marker #l7,red in color unknown material or
substance, located 6' west of the east wall, '/'6" north of the south wall, collected at
approximately 1015 hours by Det. REMIKER.
Item#I4, Property Tag #8618, Evidence Marker #18A, dried red stain swab was
collected at 1040 hours by Det. REMIKER. Measurements by Special Agent HEIMERL
of 4'3" west of the east wall. 7'9" north of the south wall.
Item #15, Property Tag#8619, Evidence Marker #19, one silver box cutter located on the
refrigerator in the southeast corner of the garcge. Measurements by Special Agent
HEIMERL of 3'4" west of the east wall, 2'2" northof the south wall. Collected by Inv.
STEIER at approximately 1055 hours.
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Item #16, Property Tag#8620, Evidence Marker #20, one pair of yellow work gloves
with, what appeared to be pubic hair, located by Special Agent HEIMERL. Special
Agent HEIMERL indicated the pinkie of the right glove and the left yellow work glove
contained, what appeared to be, hair. Location of the gloves was 8'6" west of the east
wall,2'6" north of the south wall. The gloves were collected by Inv. STEIER at
approximately 1 109 hours.
Item#|7, Property Tag#8621, Evidence Marker #21A, what appeared to be a hair fiber,
located on the gloves, hair fiber located on the pinkie of the right glove. Located 8'6,,
west of the east wall, 2'6" north of the south wall. Collected at approximately 1 1 1 5
hours by Det. REMIKER.
Item #18, Property Tag#8622, Evidence Marker #22A, one dried red stain, measured by
special Agent HEIMERL. Located 8'6" west of the east wall, 2'6" northof the south
wall. Collected at approximately ll25 hours by Det. REMIKER.
rtem#20, Property Tag#8624, hair fiber, located by the tool chest. collected at
approximately 1223 hours by Det. REMIKER.
Item#27, Property Tag#8625, one red substance, appeared to be dried blood, on the tool
chest. Swab obtained at approximately 1235 hours by Det. REMIKER.
Item#22, Property Tag#8626, Evidence Marker #25, one brass shell casing, located on
the metal workbench. Measurements by Special Agent HEIMERL, 16'10" west of the
east wall, 6" north of the south wall. Collected at approximately 1300 hours by Det.
REMIKER.
Item #23, Property Tag #8627, one fluorescent light fixture with the appearance of a red
substance on the end of the fixture. Light fixture was hanging on the rafters. Collected at
approximately 1308 hours by Det. REMIKER.
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o Item #26,Property Tag #8630, Woolite Carpet Cleaner and Prevail Cleanser. Collected
at approximately 0945 hours by Inv. STEIER.
o Item #27 , Property Tag #8631, red substance found in debris pile, located by Det.
REMIKER. Collected at approximately 0920 hours.
o Item #28, PropertyTag#8632, Evidence Marker #228, control swab for a dried red stain.
Location 8'6" west of the east wall, 2'6" norih of the south wall. Collected at
approximately 1127 hours by Det. REMIKER.
o Item #29,PropertyTag#8633, Evidence Marker #188, control swab for a dried red stain.
Location 4'3" west of the east wall, J'9" north of the south wall. Collected at
approximately 1040 hours by Det. REMIKER.
o Item #30, Property Tag #8634, Evidence Marker #218, possible hair fiber, second hair
fiber of the evidence marker. Location 8'6" west of the east wall, 2'6" north of the south
wall. Collected at approximately 1115 hours by Det. REMIKER.
o Item #31, Property Tag #8635, Evidence Marker #24A, control swab for a red substance.
Collected at approximately 1235 hours by Det. REMIKER. Control sample collected at
approximately 1236 hours by Det. REMIKER.
o Item #32,Property Tag #8636, Evidence Marker #248, control swab for a red substance.
Collected at approximately 1240 hours by Det. REMIKER. Control sample collected at
approximately 1242 hours by Det. REMIKER.
o Item #35, Property Tag #8639, Evidence Marker #24D, red stain swab. Collected at
approximately 1247 hours by Det. REMIKER.
o Item #36, Property Tag#8640, Evidence Marker #24F,, dried stain swab. Collected at
approximately 1250 hours by Det. REMIKER.
All items on Evidence Marker #24,Labeled A through E, were collected on a red tool chest,
located 1 1' west of the east wall and 2' feet north of the south wall.
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o Item #37,Property Tag #8641, Evidence Marker #24F,, control swab of dried red stain.
Collected at 1247 hours. Control swab collected at approximately 1252 hours by Det.
REMIKER.
Prior to the conclusion of investigators leaving the garage, Det. JACOBS did videotape the
condition of the inside of the garage. Garage was padlocked by Inv. STEIER and the key was
turned over ALLAN AVERY. Investigators then left the scene of the garage.
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RIECKHOFF indicated he had seen the news in which inmates had been telling the police that
AVERY had shown them a torture chamber on a piece of paper. RIECKHOFF indicated he was
in prison with STEVEN AVERY in STANLEY PRISON in the Wausau area and had spoken to
STEVEN approximately 20 times. RIECKHOFF indicated he was in Unit 3 and AVERY was in
Unrt2, but he would talk to STEVEN AVERY in the recreation field and in the prison library.
RIECKHOFF indicated STEVEN hated all women and would resort to the saying about women,
find them, feel them, fuck them, forget them.
RIECKHOFF provided his correction inmate number of 008456-4 and stated he was a car hauler
and would be willing to talk to STEVEN AVERY's brothers reference the incident to get some
information for the police.
RIECKHOFF indicated he had been in prison with STEVEN AVERY in what he believed the
year 2002. RIECKHOFF was unsure of the date when he had been released.
RIECKHOFF also stated he had been in contact with District Attorney KENNETH KRATZ and
was now attempting to speak with Inv. MARK WIEGERT reference the investigation.
I took RIECKHOFF's information and stated I would be in contact with Inv. WIEGERT
reference his information.
At approximately 3:30 p.m., I (Inv. STEIER) again had telephonic contact with RONALD
RIECKHOFF. RONALD stated he had been in prison with STEVEN AVERY since 2001 and
had spoken with STEVEN approximately 20 times while he was in prison. RIECKHOFF stated
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he was a paralegal and from time to time AVERY would ask him questions. RIECKHOFF
stated STEVEN AVERY had told him he wanted to kill that young bitch that had set him up for
the rape when he got out. RIECKHOFF again stated he would talk to STEVEN AVERY in the
recreation field or in the prison library. RIECKHOFF again indicated in RIECKHOFF's words,
he hated all bitches, he hated all women. RIECKHOFF again reiterated STEVEN's comment to
him, I'll find them, feel them, fuck them, forget them.
RIECKHOFF believed that STEVEN would threaten people indicating he (STEVEN) thought he
was the mafia. RIECKHOFF, however, never received any threats from STEVEN AVERY
while in prison. RIECKHOFF reasoned that this was because he was 6'3" and STEVEN
AVERY was a little guy. RIECKHOFF stated, I don't like STEVE AVERY, and also
commented on how rowdy his brothers were. They came to see him in prison.
RIECKHOFF reiterated the investigators should contact the adult conduct report for when
STEVEN AVERY was in prison and check the security file, document nos. 30B or 920's. He
did not think the information coming from inmates provided to investigators was accurate
because he did not believe the prison guards would not confiscate a drawing. He indicated the
prison guards checked their cells three times a week.
RIECKHOFF also indicated he was familiar with the JEFFREY DAHMER case and had smelled
something bad in the yard behind DAHMER's apartment. He also told police officers, whom he
was friends with, about the bad smell around the area where DAHMER lived.
Inv. STEIER, at this time, ended the conversation with RONALD RIECKHOFF.
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Sheriff PAGEL, Inv. DEDERING, Sgt. TYSON and I went to the storage unit where TERESA
HALBACH's RAV4 is being kept. The storage unit where the RAV4 is was opened and Sgt.
TYSON and I looked under the front seat of the RAV4 for a possible weapon. No weapon was
located. The storage unit was then secured.
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On 03/03/06, I (Deputy JEREMY HAWKINS) along with Deputy RICK RIEMER, Lt. BRETT
BOWE, Sgt. BILL TYSON, Cpl. CHRIS WENDORF and Deputy JOSEPH M. TENOR,
unloaded a trailer of items that were seized from the AVERY residence. The items were brought
down to the main secure storage area where the items were placed into secure storage. The items
were then logged in.
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After inventory was completed, the keys were returned to secure storage by me.
Also, on 03110106, Deputy NICHOLAS J. SABLICH and I did an inventory of all items
pertaining to the HALBACH/AVERY case. All items were accounted for.
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On03114106, Inv. GARY STEIER returned the 8 mm videotape, Property Tag#8629. The
propefty was signed over to me and I obtained custody of it and placed it into secure storage.
Also, on 03114106,1 got the following items ready for transport to the WI STATE CRIME LAB
in Madison by Special Agent ToM FASSBENDER. The items are as follows:
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Keith G. Schaefer
DOB lyr1t54
5004 Vista Rd.
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 684-9717
Cell phone number: 901-7718
Leonard J. Brouchoud
DOB 02n3t69
1510 Clark Street
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 684-6736
Thomas M. Culp
DOB 02/15t79
770 E. Albert Drive, #13
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 682-4795
Cell phone number: 242-6095
On 03/30/06 at approximately 1400 hours, Inv. JOHN DEDERING and I (Inv. WENDY
BALDWIN) arrived at WISCONSIN ALUMINUM FOLINDRY in the City of Manitowoc to
follow up with several rumors that had been going around the WISCONSIN ALUMINUM
FOLINDRY plant. I received information that a foreman by the name of KEITH SCHAEFER
had overheard comments made by SCOTT TADYCH about the AVERY case.
At approximately 1428 hours, I made contact with KEITH G. SCHAEFER, DOB 17171154,in a
conference room located at the WISCONSIN ALUMINUM FOI-INDRY plant. KEITH informed
me he had been employed with WISCONSIN ALUMINUM FOUNDRY for several years.
KEITH has known SCOTT TADYCH for approximately eight to nine years.
I asked KEITH if he could explain some of the rumors that SCOTT TADYCH has been saying
to certain people at the plant. KEITH went on to say he had been hearing SCOTT TADYCH
telling some of the workers in the plant about information on the TERESA HALBACH
murder/homicide investigation. KEITH had heard that SCOTT had not shown up for work on
I0l3l/05, however, had heard he went to see his mother in the hospital. SCOTT had been telling
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people he had seen the fire on Halloween by STEVEN AVERY and SCOTT or the other people
had made it sound like he had gotten out of the vehicle and actually talked to STEVEN by the
fire. KEITH also heard from other guys that SCOTT had noticed stains on the pants and shirts of
one of BARBARA's kids.
KEITH also recalled the day BRENDAN was arrested, BARBARA had called SCOTT at work
and he had gone outside to talk to her. KEITH does remember that he has received phone calls
several times while he has been at work. SCOTT had also told people that BRENDAN knew
something more than what he had been telling the police. KEITH had said SCOTT was very
protective of BRENDAN, perhaps, because of his learning disabilities.
KEITH provided a few more names of people that associate with SCOTT at work and thought
they may be of assistance with what SCOTT had been telling people.
KEITH described SCOTT as being very edgy lately, a short-tempered, angry person. KEITH
said he is a chronic liar and does not really get along with a lot of people at the plant and would
never know when he would blow up at somebody. KEITH said SCOTT also screams a lot and
said he was "a psycho." KEITH felt SCOTT also knew more about the murder than he had told
people and KEITH felt SCOTT could be very capable of the murder or knowing something
more. KEITH said his relationship with BARBARA seemed to be okay, however, because of the
case, he did seem disturbed by what was going on. KEITH said after STEVEN was arrested,
SCOTT had thought it had been a setup and that he was framed; however, a week later, SCOTT
did not believe this anymore and thought STEVEN was guilty.
I provided KEITH with a business card and informed him if he heard anymore. to contact me or
the sheriff s department.
On 03/30/06 at approximately i508 hours, Inv. DEDERING and I made contact with THOMAS
M. CULP, DOB 02115/79. THOMAS informed us that he had known SCOTT TADYCH for
approximately seven to ten years. He had overheard and was also told by SCOTT he was at
STEVEN AVERY's house the night of the fire. THOMAS said he took it as though SCOTT was
standing by the fire with STEVEN. THOMAS said SCOTT had told him that STEVEN always
has fires at his house.
I asked THOMAS how this information or the discussion had come about talking about the case
and he said SCOTT would just freely and voluntarily give up the information out of the blue.
THOMAS said, however, right after STEVEN was arrested, SCOTT had believed that STEVEN
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was set up and that he was innocent. THOMAS also said SCOTT told him that STEVEN was at
his house the week of the Search Warrant on his property.
It was also heard by THOMAS, after BRENDAN was arrested, SCOTT had told people he had
seen stains on the kid's clothes and that there was something weird with the kid for the last
couple of months. THOMAS said SCOTT said he was acting weird and not himself. THOMAS
said SCOTT expressed to him at a certain point that he thought STEVEN may have molested
BRENDAN because BRENDAN was always with STEVEN. THOMAS said SCOTT also
thought that STEVEN was guilty and he used BRENDAN to commit the murder.
THOMAS said everybody at the plant would be about one day ahead of what the news had been
covering because of SCOTT talking to BARBARA about the case. THOMAS said SCOTT
would freely give up this information at break time and would start talking about this case out of
the blue without anyone asking about it.
THOMAS also thoueht that SCOTT had received several calls while at work since this case had
started.
THOMAS described SCOTT as being anti-law enforcement and that if he knew we were here
talking to his fellow employees, he would be "pissed."
I asked THOMAS if he had any more information to add and he said no, not at this time.
On 03/30/06 at approximately 1530 hours, Inv. DEDERING and I made contact with
LEONARD J. BROUCHOUD, DOB 02113169. LEONARD said he has been working at the
foundry for approximately 20 years and has known SCOTT for approximately eight to nine
years. He described their friendship as just being acquaintances at work, however, has not done
much outside of work with SCOTT. LEONARD said SCOTT told him on 10/31/05, he had gone
by his mom because she had surgery, however, later stopped by BARBARA's house. SCOTT
had told him he had seen STEVEN standing by the fire and had driven by. SCOTT had told him
prior to STEVEN being arrested, STEVEN had come over to his house and had been sitting
around the kitchen table. LEONARD said SCOTT had thought STEVEN was innocent at first,
however, now he thinks STEVEN is guilty. SCOTT had told LEONARD it could be possible for
STEVEN to do that because of the underground room by the trailer. SCOTT had also told him
there were pants that were washed and he had seen stains on. SCOTT had thought BRENDAN
was not guilty of this because STEVEN had forced him to do this. He felt the relationship
between BARBARA and SCOTT had been stressed because of what has been going on. SCOTT
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had told him in the recent week, he would be moving in with BARBARA. LEONARD said he
feels SCOTT has been his normal, crabby self throughout the case, however, does talk about the
case freely to others.
LEONARD could not think of any more information to add and the interview was concluded at
approximat ely | 5 46 hours.
on 03/30/06, Inv. DEDERING and I also interviewed SCOTT TADYCH. See lnv.
DEDERING's report for details.
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DOCUMENTS
GENERATED: None
On Thursday,03130106, at 1554 hrs., Inv. BALDWIN and I (Inv. JOHN DEDERING of the
CALUMET CO. SHERIFF's DEPT.) did interview the following individual concerning this
matter:
SCOTT A. TADYCH
DOB 07tr4t68
12764 STH 147
Mishicot, WI54228
Cellular Phone 920 -97 3 -2222
TADYCH was questioned regarding the stains that were reported on BRENDAN's clothing. He
stated the only stains he saw were white and he believes he saw those stains the week that
TERESA disappeared. He thinks those stains were on blue jeans that BRENDAN had. He
stated that the laundry was never done at SCOTT's residence, as he has no washer or dryer. He
stated that in retrospect, he was unsure as to whether he actually saw the stains or whether
someone had told him about them.
TADYCH was asked about his specific activities on Monday, 10131/05. He stated he spent the
day in Green Bay at a hospital where his mother had undergone back surgery. He stated he came
to pick up BARBARA about sunset or shortly thereafter. He stated BARBARA JANDA
accompanied him to Green Bay where he stayed with his mother and then transported
BARBARA back to her mobile home at approximately 1930 to 1945 hrs. He stated after this, he
went to his residence. He stated BARBARA arrived at approximately 8:00 p.m. or thereabouts,
and he and BARBARA watched TV. He specifically mentioned the program, "Prison Break."
He stated BARBARA spent the night at his residence and did not go home. He stated
BARBARA did go directly to work from his residence, to his knowledge.
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TADYCH was questioned about the fire in the "burn pit" on Monday, 10131105. He stated he
saw a "big" fire at STEVEN's. He stated this was in the area of the bum pit. He stated he didn't
get out of his truck that evening and did not converse with STEVEN. He stated he did see
STEVEN and another person, whom he guessed was BRENDAN standing at the fire.
TADYCH went on to indicate that STEVEN has a large amount of control over BRENDAN
DASSEY, as well as the rest of the DASSEY and AVERY families. He states he believes this is
due to the large amount of dollars that STEVEN was possibly going to be coming into. He states
he has observed STEVEN ordering BARBARA's kids around and indicated, "BARBARA's
their mom." He states that STEVEN has pretty much lost support from all the family members
with the exception of STEVEN's mother, DOLORES, and STEVEN's fianc6e. JoDI
STACHOWSKI.
TADYCH went on to indicate BRENDAN spends most of his time with STEVEN and that
STEVEN had taken BRENDAN "up north a lot." SCOTT went on to indicate his gut feeling is
that STEVEN had some sort of sexual relationship with BRENDAN, but he has nothing to back
this feeling up.
TADYCH was asked about phone calls he allegedly received during the week immediately after
TERESA HALBACH's disappearance. He stated BARBARA's children never call him at work.
He stated that BARBARA has called the switchboard for him in the past, and he stated this was
possibly on two occasions. He stated that one of those times was after BRENDAN was arrested
and then he went on to indicate that he was unsure whether there was a second call placed to him
from BARBARA or not.
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I retumed a phone call to KEITH who informed me there was a person by the name of JAY
MATHES who was approached by SCOTT TADYCH to buy a .22 nflc that belonged to one of
BARBARA's kids. KEITH informed me JAY did work on his shift and would be available to
talk to.
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Jay D. Mathes
DOB lul2t66
1044 4th Street
Kiel, WI 53042
Telephone number: 894-2958
On 03/31106 at approximately 1727 hours, I (Inv. BALDWIN) made contact with JAY D.
MATHES, DOB 17112166, at WISCONSIN ALUMINUM FOLINDRY. I spoke with JAY in a
conference room located in the plant.
JAY went on to say that he has known SCOTT TADYCH for approximately eight years. He
said he was not real good friends with him, however, has been an acquaintance of SCOTT's. He
said he had been interested in buying a .22 for his kid and had told SCOTT about it because he
was on a forklift and could find out if anyone had a gun for sale. JAY said about a week ago,
SCOTT said he had a .22 Savage for sale that belonged to one of BARBARA's kids. JAY said
he did not say which one of the kids it belonged to, however, they agreed on a price of $ 100.00.
JAY said it had a scope on it and had figured it was a rifle and not a pistol. JAY said on Monday
SCOTT approached him and told him he could go out to his truck and look at it. JAY told
SCOTT he was not interested in looking at the gun that particular day and told him he was going
to wait until the weekend. JAY said today he had contact with SCOTT and SCOTT told him he
never had the gun and the kid wanted to keep it now and it was not for sale.
JAY described SCOTT as "not being hooked up right" and has seen him fly off the handle at
everyone at work.
At this point, JAY did not have any more information to add and the interview was concluded at
approximately I7 40 hours.
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I asked JODI if she could describe the bed, which was located in STEVEN's bedroom, to me.
JODI stated it was a pillowtop mattress, seafoam green in color, with flowers on it. I asked JODI
if she ever had plastic or any'thing covering the mattress, to which she stated she did not. She
stated the box spring was a ratty yellow and brown color.
I also asked JODI if on 10131105, she was aware if STEVEN had made any phone calls for her to
a PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATES in Madison, WI. JODI stated she was not aware of any
type of phone calls made on her behalf to any type of PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATES or any
other counseling.
At that time, both JODI and CHARLES AVERY did go with Deputy HAWKINS in order to take
possession of a golf cart and STEVEN AVERY's car. It should be noted those items were
released to JODI and CHARLES bv Deoutv Hawkins.
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On 04/10/06 at 0932 hours, the evidence processing began on the assorted 5-gallon pails. The
individuals at the scene were DCI Special Agent RON PEVYTOE, DCI Special Agent KEVIN
HEIMERL, Dr. LESLIE EISENBERG, a forensic pathologist, DCI Special Agent TOM
FASSBENDER, Inv. GARY STEIER of the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMETN, Inv. JOHN DEDERING of the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF,S
DEPARTMENT, HALEY (ph) KREBS, an intern working with DCI, Inv. MARK WIEGERT of
the CALUMET COTINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, Deputy JEREIVry HAWKINS of the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, and I (Deputy RICK RIEMER of the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT).
We performed the evidence processing duties in the garage area located to the north of the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. The items were sifted on top of
scaffolding that was covered with tarps. All of the scaffolding was draped with tarps.
Everybody entering the building was required to wear a Tyvec suit and gloves.
N 0932 hours, Special Agent PEVYTOEand Intem KREBS began processing Item #8484.
Special Agent HEIMERL and Inv. DEDERING processed Item #8658. Dr. EISENBERG and
Inv. STEIER processed item #8652.
Items identified as nonhuman, such as metal objects, were placed in a ziplock bag and back into
the original container. The items were sifted through with putty knives, bamboo skewers, one-
eighth inch screens and also by hand.
At 1105 hours, Inv. DEDERING had checked out and rechecked in at 1115 hours.
At I12I hours, Special Agent PEVYTOE and Intern KREBS began processing ltem#8644.
At 1150 hours, Special Agent HEIMERL and Inv. DEDERING began processing Item #8653.
At 1225 hours, all personnel were out of the area except for me (Deputy RIEMER) for a lunch
break. They returned at 1330 hours.
At1350 hours, Special Agent FASSBENDER checked in. Also, at 1350 hours, Special Agent
PEVYTOE and Intern KREBS processed Item #8699.
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At 1418 hours, Item #8695 was processed by Special Agent PEVYTOE, Intern KREBS and
Special Agent FAS SBENDER.
At 1423 hours, Item #8687 was processed by Inv. DEDERING, Special Agent HEIMERL and
Inv. WIEGERT.
At 1425 hours, Item #8481 was processed by Special Agent PEVYTOE, Intem KREBS and
Special Agent FASSBENDER.
At 1456 hours, Item #8654 was processed by Inv. STEIER, Dr. EISENBERG and me (Deputy
RTEMER).
At 1459 hours, Item #8663 was processed by Special Agent PEVYTOE, Intern KREBS and
Special Agent FASSBENDER.
At l53l hours, Item #8684 was processed by Special Agent PEVYTOE, Intern KREBS and
Special Agent FASSBENDER.
At 1558 hours, Item#8662 was processed by Inv. WIEGERT, Inv. DEDERING and Special
Agent HEIMERL.
At 1615 hours, Item #8661 was processed by Special Agent PEVYTOE, Intern KREBS and
Special Agent FAS SBENDER.
At 1629 hours, Item #8659 was set up for processing by Dr. EISENBERG and me.
At 1705 hours, Item #8685 was processed by Dr. EISENBERG and me. We had checked in
previously at 1700 hours.
The rest ofthe special agents, investigators and deputies checked out at 1750 hours on 04/10/06.
All items were placed into secure storage in the outside storage room. I (Deputy RIEMER) had
the sole key for the storage area.
We began again on 04111106 at 0829 hours. The personnel available on 04/1 1/06 were Deputy
JEREMY HAWKINS of the CALUMET COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, Special
Agent KEVIN HEIMERL, Det. DAVE REMIKER of the MANITOWOC COLTNTY
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SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, Sgt. BILL TYSON, Inv. JoHN DEDERING and me (Deputy
RIEMER) of the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF,S DEPARTMENT.
At 0829 hours, Item #8480 was processed by Sgt. TYSON and Special Agent HEIMERL, Item
#8651 was processed by Inv. DEDERING and Det. REMIKER and Item #8698 was processed
by Deputy HAWKINS and me.
At 0843 hours, Special Agent TOM FASSBENDER checked in and assisted Deputy HAWKINS
and me on Item #8698.
At 0955 hours, Det. REMIKER checked out and retumed at 1000 hours.
At 1017 hours, Special Agent HEIMERL checked out and returned at 1024 hours.
At 1025 hours, Item #8686 was processed by Deputy HAWKINS and me.
At 1041 hours, Item #8659 was processed by Sgt. TYSON and Special Agent HEIMERL.
At 1041 hours, Deputy HAWKINS checked out and retumed at 1046 hours.
At 1108 hours, Inv. DEDERING and Det. REMIKER began processing Item#7963.
At 1050 hours, Special Agent FASSBENDER checked out and checked in at 1117 hours along
with Inv. DEDERING, Det. REMIKER and Inv. WIEGERT.
At 1157 hours, Item #7958 was processed by Deputy HAWKINS and me.
At 1230 hours, Item #8650 was processed by Deputy HAWKINS and me.
At 1238 hours, Item #8656 was processed by Inv. WIEGERT, Sgt. TYSON and Special Agent
HEIMERL.
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At 1243 hours, Deputy HAWKINS checked out along with Inv. DEDERING.
At 1348 hours, Inv. DEDERING and Inv. WENDY BALDWIN checked in.
o Item #1, Property Tag #1409, two glass slides originating from Item #8658, collected at
1139 hours on04110106
o Item #2,Properly Tag #7410, a bobby pin from Item #8658, collected at lI40 hours on
04tr0t06
o Item #3, Property Tag #7411, possible bone fragments from Item #8658, collected at
115i hours on04l10106
o Item #4,Property Tag#7412, possible bone fragments from Item #8484, collected at
1 155 hours on 04110106
o Item #5, Property Tag #1413, non-human bone fragments from Item #8653, collected at
1421 hours on04110106
o Item #6, Property Tag #7414, bone fragments from Item #8653, collected at 1422 hours
on04ll0l06
o Item #7 , Property Tag #7 4I5 , suspected non-human bones from Item #8652, collected at
1404 hours on04l10106
o Item #8, Property Tag#74I6, suspected human bone fragments from Item#8652,
collected at 1502 hours on04110106
o Item #9, Property Tag#7417, red coagulated substance, charred from Item #8663,
collected at 1534 hours on 04/10/06
o Item #10, Property Tag #7478, suspected non-human bone fragments from Item #8687,
collected at 1556 hours on 041 10106
o Item #11, Property Tag #1419, suspected human bone fragments from Item #8687,
collected at 1556 hours on 04/10/06
o Item #l2,Property Tag #7420, suspected charred item resembling bone from Item #8654,
collected at1623 hours on04110106
o Item #13, Property Tag #7421, unidentifred suspected bone from Item #8661, collected at
1707 hours on04llo106
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o Item #14, Property Tag #7422, suspected non-human bone fragments from It"em#8662,
collected at1720 hours on 04/10/06
o Item #15, Property Tag #7423, non-human bone fragments from Item #8657, collected at
1738 hours on 04/10/06
o Item #16, Property Tag #7424, bone fragments from Item #8657, collected at 1738 hours
on04110106
o Item #lT,Property Tag #7425, fibers from the sifting of Item #8480, collected at 0845
hours on04l1l106
o Item #18, PropertyTag#7426, bone fragments from sifting of Item #8698, collected at
1020 hours on04111106
o Item #19, Property Tag #7427, bone fragments from sifting of Item #8480, collected at
1037 hours on04111106
o Item #2j,Property Tag #1428, bone fragments from sifting of Item #8681, collected at
1111 hours on04111106
o Item #Zl,Property Tag #7429, bone fragments from sifting of Item #7963, collected at
1 140 hours on 04111106
o Item #22,Property Tag #1430, bone fragments from sifting of Item #8686, collected at
1141 hours on04111106
o Item #23,Property Tag #7431, bone fragments from sifting of Item #8659, collected at
1206 hours on04111106
o Item #24,Property Tag #7432, bone fragments from sifting of Item #8656, collected at
1318 hours on04111106
o Item #25,Property Tag #7433, bone fragments from sifting of Item #8655, collected at
1348 hours on04111106
o Item #26,Property Tag #7434, bone fragments from sifting of Item #8650, collected at
1357 hours on04111106
o Item #27,Property Tag#7435, bone fragments from sifting of Item #8655, collected at
1405 hours on04111106
All items were properly labeled and turned over to the evidence custodian.
It should be noted several digital images were taken of the processing of these items.
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Upon our conversation, Inmate JACOBS made statements to me of what he had heard from
Inmate AVERY. Inmate JACOBS seemed to becoming irritated with the statements that
AVERY was making in D block. Inmate JACOBS stated that Inmate AVERY had mentioned
that the blood found by the washer and dryer and the headboard must have come from his dog.
Inmate AVERY apparently stated that his dog cut his tongue. I then advised Inmate JACOBS
that I would be informing an investigator. I asked Inmate JACOBS if he would like to speak to
an investigator about this. Inmate JACOBS stated that he did not know what good it would do,
since they probably have all of that already. I did not question Inmate JACOBS nor Inmate
AVERY on the statements made to me.
At this time, I informed Inv. WIEGERT of the statements made to me by Inmate JACOBS.
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I asked CHERYL if she had asked ORVILLE any questions to which CHERYL stated she had
not; she had just listened to what he had to say. I informed CHERYL she should not ask
ORVILLE any questions and I would contact him at a later date.
Investigation continues.
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Orville O. Jacobs
DOB 07t20t72
206 Court Street
Chilton, WI 53014
ORVILLE stated to us over the last few weeks, he had been talking with STEVEN AVERY who
is in the same cellblock as ORVILLE. According to ORVILLE, they were talking about a
bonfire and STEVEN had told ORVILLE that his nieces and nephews were supposed to come to
his house on the weekend for the fire.- STEVEN also mentioned to ORVILLE about burning
four tires and ORVILLE stated to me he thought that was weird to burn that amount of tires if
you were going to have kids around the fire. STEVEN also told ORVILLE that BRENDON was
the only one at the fire with him. STEVEN also stated to ORVILLE that if he would have
bumed her (TERESA), there would be other bones there. STEVEN also stated to ORVILLE that
he (STEVEN) knows that you would have to crush the rest of the bones that would not burn.
ORVILLE went on to say that when they talked again, STEVEN told him that STEVEN's
girlfriend had told STEVEN that the police had found blood on the headboard that was located in
his bedroom. STEVEN also told ORVILLE the police would not find anything on the mattress.
ORVILLE stated to STEVEN at that time the only way there would not be any blood there was if
you had cleaned it with bleach or if you had plastic over the mattress. ORVILLE stated after he
had said this to STEVEN, STEVEN stopped talking to him.
ORVILLE then told us that prior to them having the conversation about the mattress, STEVEN
AVERY stated to ORVILLE that he (STEVEN) knew that really good bleach could get rid of
blood.
ORVILLE went on to tell us that also during the conversations, they talked about his niece.
ORVILLE believed his niece's name to be CANDY. STEVEN stated to ORVILLE that was the
one he supposedly had sexually assaulted, however, STEVEN told ORVILLE that he (STEVEN)
had letters from the niece saying how much she liked him and that it was her stepdad, EARL,
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who was assaulting her. STEVEN told ORVILLE he had spent a lot of time with his niece and
talked to her because no one else wanted to be around her.
STEVEN also told ORVILLE his sister, BARBARA, has porn on her computer and if it was ever
found, there would also be trouble.
STEVEN also mentioned to ORVILLE there was supposed to be an aerial view of TERESA
HALBACH's vehicle in the yard with its doors open when the yard was closed off.
I asked ORVILLE if anybody from law enforcement had asked him to get information from
STEVEN AVERY to which ORVILLE stated nobody had asked him to do that, he was coming
forward on his own freewill.
Special Agent FASSBENDER and I informed ORVILLE that he was not to ask STEVEN
AVERY any questions about anything regarding this case.
I asked ORVILLE if he would be willing to write a written statement to which ORVILLE asreed
to do. Included in this report willbe ORVILLE's written statement.
Investigation continues.
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I asked STACI if she had seen anyone else around at that time to which STACI states she saw no
other people and only saw, what she believed, was STEVEN's dog tied up outside. She also
indicated she did not see any vehicles except for two vehicles that were parked, which she
believes were for sale at the beginning of the driveway.
Again STACI indicates she does not know if it was 10131105 or l1l01/05; however, she states it
would have been the same day that BRENDAN had signed out to go driving with ACE
DRIVING SCHOOL.
I asked STACI to describe what BRENDAN was like. STACI states he was a very quiet person
and pretty much kept to himself. STACI states that BRENDAN was in her geometry class,
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which she described as a pullout class. STACI states a pullout class is when they do special
teaching on a certain subject and she is one of the teacher's aides that help with the special
teaching or tutoring. STACI thought BRENDAN was getting, what she believed to be, a C in
geometry. STACI also believed BRENDAN had a few other classes, which they call study halls
where the teachers aides that work for the special ed classes just assist the students with extra
help and make sure they get their tests and work done. STACI told us BRENDAN would
normally get all his work done and they did not have any problems with him.
STACI did tell us that she believes BRENDAN was in a regular English class.
We asked STACI about other special needs students. STACI indicated there were other students
who needed one on one attention in order for them to complete their homework, however,
BRENDAN was not one of those.
Investigation continues.
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On04120106 at approximately 1505 hrs., I (Inv. MARK WIEGERT of the CALUMET CO.
SHERIFF's DEPT.), along with Special Agent TOM FASSBENDER, from the DEPT. OF
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, interviewed VICTORIA L. BUBOLZ. It should be noted
VICTORIA would be a teacher's aid at the MISHICOT HIGH SCHOOL. VICTORIA would
have been in BRENDAN's 8th hour study hall as a teacher's aid.
VICTORIA states she remembers BRENDAN returning to school after retrieving his temps and
glasses. VICTORIA states that on occasion, he would leave Sth hour class to go driving with
ACE DRIVING SCHOOL. I asked VICTORIA about l0l3ll05, to which VICTORIA stated she
is not sure of that day if he had left or not. VICTORIA went on to tell us she had BRENDAN in
both 4th and 8th hours, which would be listed on his class itinerary as sturdy hall. VICTORIA told
us it technically is a study hall; however, they, meaning the teacher's aides, assist students with
their tests and making sure they get their homework done during those study halls.
VICTORIA described BRENDAN as being a very quiet student. VICTORIA stated she knows
BRENDAN was not an A or B student. VICTORIA states she is only aware that BRENDAN
was in one pullout class, which would be biology, which was his first hour class. Again the
pullout class is where they break down the curriculum and assist people who have trouble
leaming that certain subject. VICTORIA could not provide us with any other pertinent
information at which time we ended the interview.
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The first item we received was an attendance sheet, which was dated l0l11l05 through 10126105.
It should be noted his record showed he was in attendance that entire time. The next two days
10127105 and 10128105 are dates marked OTH. School records indicate there was no school on
those dates. The last two days, which are shown, would be 10/31/05 and 11101105. It should be
noted that on l0l3Il05, BRENDAN was present at school, according to the attendance records,
through 8th period. It should also be noted on 11/01/05, BRENDAN was in attendance in
accordance with his attendance records.
The second sheet we received was BRENDAN's schedule for semester 1 and semester 2. It
should be noted semester 1 is noted by S1 and semester 2by 52.
We also received a pass, which was dated I1l01rl05, time of 8:18 a.m., signed by BRENDAN
DASSEY and it indicated that it was with Ms. SISLER . I believe this to be the pass which
BRENDAN used on 11/01/05 to go with Ms. SISLER to his residence to retrieve his glasses and
his temporary driver's permit.
The next item I received was a sign inlout sheet, dated 10/31/05. That sheet does not show
BRENDAN leaving school at any time on 10131105.
The last sheet we received from the high school was dated l1101/05. On this sheet, it indicated
BRENDAN had signed out of school at 8:22 a.m. and had returned back at 8:38 a.m.
BRENDAN also signed out at 2:27 p.m. on 11/01/05, however, does not sign back in. The first
time he signs out it indicates the reason is home. The second time indicates the reason is driving.
It appears as though from all the records the high school provided us, BRENDAN most likely
was in school all day on 10/31/05 and had left on two occasions on 1 1/01/05.
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Karen J. Henry
DOB 02t06t64
917 Reed Avenue
Manitowoc. WI 54220
Upon arrival, we met with one of the officer workers, KAREN J. HENRY. We informed
KAREN we were there to determine on what days BRENDAN would have been driving with
them specifically the 31't of October and/or the 1't of November, 2005. KAREN's records
indicate BRENDAN did not go driving on 10/31/05. KAREN's records also indicate
BRENDAN DASSEY, in fact, did drive with ACE DRIVING SCHOOL on 11/01/05 between
2:20 p.m. and 3:05 p.m. KAREN gave us two of his driving instructor's names, one by the name
of SHANNON SCHNEIDER and the second was a KEN KORNELY. KAREN did give us a
phone number for KEN of 715-27 6-2445 and stated he no longer drives for them.
KAREN states that when they do take students from Mishicot driving they pick them up at
school and then drop them back offat school.
KAREN also provided us with the ACE DRIVING SCHOOL in car lesson report. It should be
noted there was a date of 11i01/05 when BRENDAN would have gone driving. On the bottom
of that repoft, there are several comments as to BRENDAN's driving skills. The comments start
with nervous, very quiet. The second comment says good. The third comment says not too bad.
The fourth says okay. The fifth states no driving between lessons. The sixth states okay to good;
lesson needs more practice. The final comment is partially illegible, however, ends up saying
did okay. There is a second sheet, which KAREN provided us with, that has a number 7 and
date of 02122106. The comment on that day is good job, blind spots are weak. The
documentation from ACE DRIVING SCHOOL will be included with this report.
Investigation continues.
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Item #53, Property Tag#8775, Incident Group Time Logs taken by Deputy SCHULTZ during
the Search Warant of the AVERY property at 12932 Avery Rd. on 03101106 and 03102106, was
submitted in evidence/property room for safekeeping by Inv. STEIER on04124106. Inv. STEIER
had received possession of the Incident Group Time Logs from Lt. BRETT BOWE on03106106
and had in Inv. STEIER's possession the logs until such time as Inv. STEIER placed them in the
evidence depository box. Inv. STEIER placed the logs from the Search Warrant into evidence
for safekeeping after referring to Inv. WIEGERT who indicated he wished the logs to be placed
there.
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Specimens that were recovered were labeled under the FBI code. Q3 was labeled as Canon
,{310 PowerShot Digital Camera. Q4 was a Motorola RAZR cellular telephone. Q5 was a
compact flash memory card. Q6 was a compact flash memory card. Q7 was a compact flash
memory card. Q8 was a compact flash memory card. Q9 was a compact flash memory card and
Q10 was a Palm Zire31 PDA.
Remarks on the FBI report indicate that the results of electronic device examinations are
contained in this report. The Q3 through Q10 specimens were retumed to the Milwaukee Field
Office.
It should be noted the analysis was done by CURTIS THOMAS and was dated 04111106.
The specimens were too heavily damaged to recover any data; however, photographs of the
specimens were taken. The report indicates it was not possible to ascertain the manufacturer of
any of the flash memory cards; however, the cellular telephone was identified as a Motorola
RAZR and the PDA was identified as a Palm Zire 31 model.
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A copy of the results from the FBI LAB will be included in this report.
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In speaking with MIKE, I advised him of the results of the FBI examination and specifically
mentioned the Palm Zire 31 PDA, which we had recovered. MIKE then indicated to me that
when they were going through TERESA's properly, he did remember seeing a box for a Palm
Pilot. It should be noted at that time MIKE did go to another area of the residence and retrieved
an orange box. The orange box was tumed over to me. The orange box would be an empty box
for a PalmOneZire 31. It should be noted the box appears to match the Ql0 specimen, which
was discovered by the FBI LAB. MIKE again stated to me this box belonged to his sister,
TERESA.
Included in this box was a box for a PalmOne along with a disc containing software for the
PalmOne.
It should be noted I did contact the PALM COMPANY and spoke with a subject by the name of
GEORGE CRAMER. CRAMER would be head of security services for PALM. CRAMER
indicates he will search his files for any wananty or registration information that TERESA may
have sent into their company. As of this report, I have not received any results back on the
warranty information.
It should be noted the box for the PalmOne Zire 31 was placed under Property Tag#9225 and,
secured in the CALUMET COLTNTY EVIDENCE ROOM.
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In looking at the part number that was provided to me by GEORGE CRAMER, that part number
P80708US matches the part number on the box, which was provided to us by MIKE
HALBACH, which would be TERESA's Palm box. The part number from GEORGE CRAMER
does show on the bottom of the box for the Palm Zire 31 of TERESA HALBACH.
In conclusion, it appears TERESA HALBACH would have owned a Palm Zire 31, which
matches with the part found in the bum barrel located on the STEVEN AVERY property. The
box recovered from the HALBACH family also matches the information, which was provided to
me by GEORGE CRAMER of GLOBAL INVESTIGATIONS, PALM INCORPORATED.
Investigation continues.
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On 05/08/06, I (Inv. WIEGERT of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT.) along with Inv.
DEDERING of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT. went to the AVERY SALVAGE
YARD. Upon arrival at the salvage yard, we met with both EARL and CHARLES AVERY in
the shop area of the salvage yard. At that time we did ask both EARL and CHARLES for their
permission to search the Pll.rnouth Van and a Suzuki Samurai, which were located on the salvage
yard premises. Both CHARLES and EARL gave us verbal and written permission to search both
said vehicles.
At that time, Inv. DEDERING and I along with EARL AVERY did go to the area where the
Suzuki Samurai was located. It should be noted that Inv. DEDERING and I did search the
Suzuki Samurai and did not locate anything of interest. We also then went to another area of the
salvage yard at which time we did search the Plymouth Van and again did not locate anything of
interest.
In speaking with both EARL and CHARLES, they indicated they did not know any new
information and that they had previously shared with us everything they knew. Inv. DEDERING
and I exited the property at approximately 2:10 p.m.
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o Item GI, one headboard. It indicates that one fingerprint, which was suitable for
identification purposes, was observed and developed on Item GI, which was the
headboard. The fingerprint was compared with the ink fingerprints on the following
standards, namely BRENDAN DASSEY and STEVEN AVERY, SR.
As the result of this examination and comparisons, it is the opinion of the examiner that the
following identification was effected: Item GI, which was the headboard, mostly likely the left
little fingerprint of STEVEN ALLEN AVERY, SR. There are no latent prints suitable for
identification remainins from Item GI.
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The following is verbatim the letter, which was sent to the MANITOWOC COI-INTY CLERK
OF COURTS:
"Dear Sir:
Steven Avery never killed Teresa Halbach. She is a patient at Winnebago Mental Health
Institute. "
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On 05/10/06, I (Inv. MARK WIEGERT of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF's DEPT.) did receive
eL report from the WISCONSIN STATE CRIME LABORATORY. We had sent several
items to
the crime laboratory for their DNA analysis. The following is a synopsis of the conclusion that
was drawn by Analysis SHERRY L. CULHANE:
HALBACH is the source of the DNA present on the bullet fragment and the interior
driver's door handle.
STEVEN AVERY is the source of the DNA present from the swabbings of the hood
latch.
These conclusions are based on statistics derived from a database of unrelated Caucasian,
African American, Southeastern Hispanic and Southwestem Hispanic individuals obtained from
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION.
A complete copy of the confidential laboratory findings will be included with this report.
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DATE OF ACTIVITY:
I (Inv. WIEGERT of the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT) had spoken with
Det. REMIKER in the middle part of April,2006. My reason for speaking with Det. REMIKER
was to request his assistance in determining whether they had any DNA samples including but
not limited to Buccal swabs andlor blood samples in their custody from STEVEN AVERY. It
should be noted that on 05104106,I did receive a copy of Det. REMIKER's report detailing any
type of DNA evidence, which they have on file. For more information, please see the attached
copy of the MANITOWOC COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT report.
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It should be noted the WI STATE CRIME LAB had received this evidence on 11121105.
Item FL would be one sealed paper bag containing a 0.22 inch caliber bullet exhibiting 11
remaining of 16 original land/groove impressions with a right hand twist.
Item FK would be one sealed paper bag containing a 0.22 inch caliber bullet exhibiting 8
remaining of 16 original land/groove impressions with a right hand twist.
Item DD would be one sealed box containinga.22 LR Marlin Glenfield 60 rifle, serial
#27323959, manufactured with 16 lands and grooves with right hand twist.
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It should be noted on05112106 Agent FASSBENDER and I (lnv. MARK WIEGERT of the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF's DEPT.) had received an email from Attomey LEN
KACHINSKY who would represent BRENDAN DASSEY. The following is verbatim of the
email:
at the Sheboygan County Juvenile Detention Center regarding the offenses he is charged
with in Manitowoc County Case No. 06 CF 88 and related matters. No consideration is
being offered by the state for this additional information at this time. Brendan has
personally authorized this interview in a discussion with me. The intentiew may occur
without my personal presence qs I have some military duties to attend to on May 13,
2006. As I understand it, the intervieu'will be videotaped at anotherfacitity. Mike
O'Kelly would be available to brief you prior to your interview. He is authorized to
provide you copies of his work product if you believe it would assist you in the interview.
The interview may occltr without his physical presence ,f you and Inv. Wiegert believe it
would be better that way as long as it is videotaped. Please discuss with Mike on how
you would like to proceed on this.
I understand that this interview will eventually be disclosed to Steve Avery's attorneys. I
would request that I be notified prior to that occurring and that it not occur until after I
have an in-depth discussion with Brendan sometime early next week. Needless to say,
this development will not be disclosed to anyone, particularly Avery's relatives by either
O'Kelly or me. I have also requested that Brendan also not disclose it as well. If you
have any questions or concerns about the above, please let me lcnow at the mobile
number below or by email.
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BRENDAN his Miranda Rights. A copy of that Mirada Rights form will be included with this
report. BRENDAN indicated to us that he understood each of his rights and that he was willing
to speak with us. It should be noted that BRENDAN did initial both areas, indicating he
understood and was willing to meet with us. It should be noted that BRENDAN did initial both
areas, indicating he understood and was willing to meet with us. He also signed the Miranda
form at 8:50 a.m. The signing was witnessed by Agent FASSBENDER and I (Inv. WIEGERT).
During the interview with BRENDAN DASSEY, he had indicated some differences from his
prior interview with us. One of the differences in the interview was that BRENDAN stated to us
that the stabbing of TERESA HALBACH did not occur in STEVEN AVERY's bedroom as
BRENDAN had previously told us. BRENDAN stated that when they stabbed TERESA that it
had occurred in the garage belonging to STEVEN AVERY. BRENDAN stated that STEVEN
AVERY had stabbed TERESA in the chest while he had taken the knife and stabbed TERESA in
the stomach area. BRENDAN also at this time denied cuttine TERESA's neck. BRENDAN
also denied cutting off any of TERESA's hair.
BRENDAN also stated to us that TERESA's arrns were tied to STEVEN's bedposts, however,
they were tied with rope not with handcuffs as he had previously indicated. BRENDAN stated
that her legs were shackled with leg irons to the bottom bedpost.
It should also be noted that BRENDAN informed us that both he and STEVEN had talked about
committing this murder approximately two days before they had actually done this.
INTERVIEW
(door opens & closes)
BRENDAN: mm huh.
FASSBENDER: OK and from th-the signs in here, you can see that this is being audio and
video recorded again, OK.
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BRENDAN: mm huh.
FASSBENDER: We just have to get some things on the record, um and you neerl to tell me
if they're true. I was told by your attorney, Mr. Len Kachinsky, that you wanted to talk to us, is
that true?
FASSBENDER: You need to talk cuz it's being recorded, if you could please.
BRENDAN: Yeah
FAASSBENDER: OK, ah, I was also told that Mr. Kachinsky spoke to you about this, is that
true?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: OK, ah, Mr. Kachin-Kachinsky also told us that ah no promise:i were
made to you on behalf of the state. Is that true?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: OK, I've got a form here I'm gonna use and I'm gonna go through that, if
you have any questions, ask me, OK?
FASSBENDER: You have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and vrill be used
against you in a court of law. You have the right to consult with a lawyer before questioning,
and to have your lawyer present with you during questioning. If you cannot afford to hire a
lawyer, one will be appointed to represent you a public expense before or during questioning if
you so wish. If you decide to answer questions now without a lawyer present, you have the right
to stop the questioning and to remain silent at anytime you wish, and the right to ask fbr and have
a lawyer present at anytime you wish including during questioning. Would you like ta read those
over?
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Realizing that you have these rights, are you now willing to answer
questions or make a statement?
FASSBENDER: OK what I'd like you to do for me is, that is, do you understand, each of
these rights, initial there, initial there that you are willing to make a statement and then I need
your signature there, OK?
WIEGERT: I heard you were gonna watch a movie last night. What movie did ya
watch?
BRENDAN: Well it wasn't a movie, it was, it was wrestling but I only got to watch 15
minutes of it.
BRENDAN: Cuz it ended at 9:00 o'clock and we got done at8 45 almost.
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FASSBENDER: Yeah. OK, I just want to remind you that again this is being recorded and
audio recorded and I need you to speak up rather than nod if you can.
BRENDAN: oK.
FASSBENDER: OK, and we urge ya ta, you know, talk to us and tell us, you know, your
version again, and what we, correct me if I'm wrong, what we told that is you wanted to speak
with us, ah just to, you know, talk about some clarification of earlier statements. Um some areas
where it may have been a little cloudy. Now Mark and I both know probably some of those
areas. Ah, we've, we've had obviously an opportunity to look at the evidence and we're familiar
with the evidence in the case. And even your last statement, there's some areas that we, we
know ah that you may want to address, and you're probably gonna do that because they don't,
they don't seem ta necessarily add up. Do you understand that?
BRENDAN: mm huh.
FASSBENDER: OK, because that's why we're here. Again, ah, I'd like to offer you the
opportunity now to tell us about some of those things, and, and clarify some of those areas for us.
We may follow-up with some questions 'um, but again, we prefer you to just, you know, you
know those areas and you know the places where you need to ah finish or clarify so again speak
up for us because it is being recorded and, and go ahead and tell us what, what it was you wanted
to tell us.
FASSBENDER: Certainly. Well, if there's something that's important prior to that day,
that's fine too. But as it relates to that event.
BRENDAN: Well I came home off the bus and then walked home into the house and I
played Playstation 2 until 5:00 o'clock, called, called my friend and watched TV and then at 6:00
o'clock I got a phone call from Blaine's boss and I told him that Blaine was going trick or
treating and at 7:00 o'clock I got a phone call from Steven to see if I wanted to come over to the
bonfire. I had told him I would and then while I was getting' ready, he called again and seein'
when I was, what was taking me so long and so I went over there. He went to go pick up some
stuff around the yard then after that we, he asked me to come in the house cuz he wanted to show
me somethin'. And he showed me that she was laying on the bed ta her hands were ro-roped up
to the bed and that her legs were cuffed. And then he told me ta have sex with her and so I did
because I thought I was not gonna get away from 'em cuz he was too strong, so I did what he
said and then after that, he untied her and uncuffed her and then he brought her outside and
before he went outside, he told me to grab her clothes and her shoes. So we went inta the garage
and before she went out, when before he took her outside, he ti, had tied up her hands and feet
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and then was in the garage and he stabbed her and then he told me to. And, after that he wanted
to make sure she was dead or somethin' so he shot her five times and while he was doing that I
wasn't looking because I can't watch that stuff. So I was standing by the big door in the garage
and then after that, he took her outside and we put her on the fire and we used her clothes ta
clean up the, some of the blood. And, when we put her in the fire, and her clothes, we were
standing right by the garage, to wait for it to get down so we threw some of that stuff on it after it
went down. And then, 'bout 9:00 o'clock my mom came home and she called Steven on his cell
phone to tell him that I was supposed to be home at l0:00 o'clock and she asked Steven if I had a
sweater on. So while we waited for the fire to go down, by the time it did get down, it was
probably close to 10:00 o'clock so he told me to go home, so I did, and then got in the house and
I talked to my mom for a little bit, then I went to bed.
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: OK. Why don't we go back to the beginning a little bit. Brendan, let's
just clarify, you get off the bus with your brother.
BRENDAN: Um huh.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Mm huh.
BRENDAN: 3:45.
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BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: OK. In previous statements you had told us that you had left on your bike
to go get the mail. Was that true?
WIEGERT: Did you hear any screaming or anything,like you had told us previously?
WIEGERT: OK. So you get home at 3:45 and you p,lay Playstation and you play
Playstation until what time?
BRENDAN: Mom gets home so, I talk to her for a little bit, then she left with Scott.
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BRENDAN: Watch TV until Blaine goes up ta the road ta get picked up from his
friend.
WIEGERT: OK, so Blaine leaves the house to get picked up to go with a friend, and
what do you do?
BRENDAN: I was watching TV until say six o'er, 5:30 until I called Travis and then
after that I got a phone call at 6:00.
WIEGERT: OK.
BRENDAN: Mike.
FASSBENDER: OK.
BRENDAN: mm huh.
BRENDAN: Then I still watched TV after that and, then get a phone call at 7:00 from
Steven.
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BRENDAN: mm huh.
BRENDAN: Then he asked me if I wanted ta come over ta bonfire and I said yeah and
then while I was getting' ready, the phone rang again and it was Steven and he asked me if a, if I
was gettin' ready.
BRENDAN: Then I go over there and we started to pick up the yard with the golf cart.
WIEGERT: So you go over there do, you go in the house at that time?
BRENDAN: mm huh.
FASSBENDER: And he, when did you to dr;cide to go get the golf cart?
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: Did he tell you anything at that point? Of what he had done already.
WIEGERT: You've gotta be honest with us here Brendan, OK? This is your
opportunity to be honest with us. OK?
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FASSBENDER: I look at it this way, we're giving you another opportunity, we didn't need
to come back here. I-if we sit here and we feel that you're not being honest with you, we could
just leave. So you go back by the fire you said.
FASSBENDER: We don't want you to tell us anything that's not true. I'd rather not, I'd
rather have you not tell us anything than ta, ta sit here and make things up, because it's not gonna
look good for you. You started to shake your head wh-when Mark just asked you that, i-is that
not true, you went back by the fire. Tell us what happened.
WIEGERT: Brendan, Brendan, look at me, Brendan just look up for a second. It's
very important here that you be honest, OK? Tom said w-we can just walk out the door. I mean
you're the one who wanted to talk with us OK? So let's, let's go back a little bit OK? What
have ya lied about so far?
BRENDAN: Nothin'.
WIEGERT: OK. So when you go over to the house, do you go inside right away or do
you go to the fire?
BRENDAN: Just that he was gonna help, I was gonna help 'em pick up the yard.
BRENDAN: Tn.n-uO., we got cleaned up the yard alittle bit and we unloaded the stuff
near the fire and after a while he told me that he wanted to show me somethin' in the house.
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: OK, so be, the reason I ask that question i-is as much detail as you can
provide, do so, OK?
BRENDAN: Then we go into the house and he shows me that she's laying on the bed.
WIEGERT: So when you into the house, I'm just gonna stop for a second, you go into
the house, you right into the bedroom?
WIEGERT: OK. and then vou went into the bedroom? OK.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: And she was, no go ahead, finish what you were saying, I'm sory.
BRENDAN: And then she was laying on the bed and he told me to have sex with her.
WIEGERT: OK. Stop there for a second. You said she's laying on the bed. Is she
saying anything?
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: It's OK. Just get it off your chest. (pause) What else did she say Brendan?
FASSBENDER: We know that part hurts. An-and it hurts to say it. But these are the types
of detail we need to know Brendan, OK?
BRENDAN: Ta ah, don't listen to Steven and try ta go get help or somethin'.
WIEGERT: oK. was she wearing any clothes when she was on the bed?
BRENDAN: mm huh.
WIEGERT: OK. How is she tied up? Explain that to me. What is, what, what did he
use to tie her up?
BRENDAN: Her hands were tied up with the rope and her feet were cuffed.
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BRENDAN: mm huh.
FASSBENDER: You're saying they were leg irons? They were designed for her legs?
FASSBENDER: Describe again, I know this is hard and we asked you yah the last time,
describe her body for us, including the, her private areas.
WIEGERT: Let's start with her hair. What color hair did she have?
BRENDAN: Brown.
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FASSBENDER: Braces?
FASSBENDER: Any teeth that were crooked or missing or anything like that?
FASSBENDER: In the first interview, you said she did. Which is right or don't you
remember?
WIEGERT: If you don't remember something Brendan, tell us you don't remember.
You need to be honest with us here.
FASSBENDER: OK. Um, did you, do you recall seeing her, her breasts?
FASSBENDER: You don't recall seeing them. Did you touch 'em.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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FASSBENDER: And we asked you this before, what does sex mean to you?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: OK. Well explain that to us. Whadda, whadda you do when you have
sex?
BRENDAN: The guy sticks his penis into the girl's vagina.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Where were your hands when you were doing this?
FASSBENDER: OK.
WIEGERT: Could she say to you while you were having sex with her?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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WIEGERT: oK. when your done having sex with her, what happens next?
BRENDAN: Then he ties up her hands and her feet and grabs her.
WIEGERT: Ta, lets just stop you there for a second. Didn't she try to get away or kick
or anything?
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: Come on, Brendan. What's he telling her at this time? We know there's
some talking going on,OK. We, we know that.
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BRENDAN: That he said that he was gonna take her out ta the garage and stab her and
shoot her.
WIEGERT: He actually says that to her or does he say that to you or who's he saying
that to?
FASSBENDER: Does he have a weapon at this time when he's untying her and tying her
back up?
BRENDAN: Well, when he was done roping her her roped her, he grabbed the gun and
then he grabbed her.
WIEGERT: No, I mean carrying her or her put her on something or what?
WIEGERT: well, how did he carry her? what kind of, show me how, how's he
carrying her?
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: You told us last time you did. You told us last time you helped carry her
out of the bedroom. Remember that?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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BRENDAN: Nothin'.
BRENDAN: Pants.
WIEGERT: OK.
BRENDAN: Blue.
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FASSBENDER: How did he tie her? What configuration? You know what I mean?
FASSBENDER: Did he tie her hands in the front, back, arrns, feet, tell me how he tied her
up.
FASSBENDER: Tied her hands in the front. Did he tie her feet tosether?
FASSBENDER: You said that he took the ri..the rifle down'? The sun?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: So you want us to believe that he carried a body and a gun at the same
time out into the garage.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Ain't that nearly impossible to do unless you gave her the gun and then
you carried the body?
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BRENDAN: Well he had the gun in his hands and he went under her and she was like
right here.
FASSBENDER: OK.
WIEGERT: We asked you before about the clothes, OK? You're lying to me when
your tellin' me you don't know where the bra and panties are. OK. I can tell that.
Where are the bra and the panties?
WIEGERT: So, she's alive when you cary her out to the garage? And what time is
that about?
BRENDAN: 8:35
WIEGERT: Why
FASSBENDER: 8:35
BRENDAN: Cuzwe were inta the living, in the, in the bedroom at eight, 8:15.
FASSBENDER: And again, how do ya know it was 8:35 when you went out ta the garage?
WIEGERT: Brendan, you wanna be honest with us, don't you? OK. Then just tell us
what you know. Be honest. You need to keep this off your chest, don't you? Yeah. So then
just be honest with us, OK? How do you know its 8:35 when you go into the garage or are you
guessing or you know if that's the case, are you estimating the time what? Tell me.
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BRENDAN: Guessing.
FASSBENDER: OK. Wa, we're not here ta try and put words in your mouth or force you
to say anything. OK? So it's all right if ya don't know or, or you guessing, say that word, well
I'm guessing that's what it was or I believe it was blue, I'm not sure, you know, you know what I
mean? Um, because its real important, and it is your words and your memory and, and that you
tell us cuz this is potentially your last opportunity to do that. And I think Marks right, it's, ii,s
the, we think, we feel your doin' it for the right reasons and it's because you feel iis the right
thing to do. But Mark and I also, you know, will be talking to your attomey and we have ta tell
your attorney, Len, that that we feel you that you did tell us the truth or did tell us everything,
and that's important to.
WIEGERT: Because you know we have evidence about a lot of this stuff, right?
You're aware of that?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: And the evidence will tell us if you're lying or not. OK?
BRENDAN: Mm hum.
WIEGERT: Now where is her truck when you go into the garage?
WIEGERT: Brendan at some point, she's in that truck. We know that, OK?
Bleeding. So you can't say you didn't see the truck or know where the truck was because she
had ta be in that truck after she was bleeding. OK? That's just the way it is. And I'm not gonna
sit here and let ya lie ta me. You need to be honest here. We just went through that.
FASSBENDER: Mark and I don't wanna leave because we feel you deserve this
opportunity cuz you're the one that came forward initially with this information. But we're not
gonna sit here and listen ta this. Now sometimes you tend, you seem to be honest about some
part and then for some reason then you're not totally honest about other parts and its maybe cuz
those other parts bother you a lot. And we understand that. And that it can be difficult ta talk
about. But we came out here today, you know Saturday morning, because we wanted ta give you
that, that chance cuz you said you wanted ta talk. We know you were involved in this. There's
no question about that but we're just looking for the detail so we can you know so we match
everything up with the evidence, and, and so we can believe what you say. Do you understand
that?
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Brendan, you have the opportunity here to do the right thing, for a change.
OK? You have the opportunity to do the right thing for her and her family. OK? Why don't
you take that opportunity to do the right thing? oK? you wanna to do that? Do you wanna do
the right thing?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Let's start with the truck. That's a good place ta start. There's other
places we're going, but the truck is a good place ta start. Tell us the truth about the truck.
WIEGERT: OK. Let's start with when you bring her out ta the garage. Where do you
put her?
BRENDAN: And then he stabs her and then he tells me to and then he puts her inta the
jeep and then he said he would rather bum her so then he put her back on the floor and then he
shot her five times.
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Is she screaming and saying stop what you're doing? Is she swearing at
you? Is she struggling or what? Tell us how that happened.
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: OK. Steven goes out and he puts her on the floor in the garage. Where
does he get this knife that he stabs her with? Truthfullv.
FASSBENDER: So th-this knife is in the garage. And you remember the drawing you
made of that knife?
BRENDAN: Mm hum.
BRENDAN: Black.
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WIEGERT: Where in the garage did you get the knife from?
BRENDAN: From in the back of the, in the, cuz he's got like a workshop in the back.
WIEGERT: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: So she's laying on the garage and he goes and gets the knife and then what
did he do?
FASSBENDER: How does he stab her? Does he get on top of her, 'er what does he do?
FASSBENDER: And he stabs her in the chest. And where you showing Mark and I that
would be where? What's underneath there? What organ is in that area? Any organ in
particular?
FASSBENDER: Over there. But he stabbed her right in the middle of the chest?
BRENDAN: Mm hum.
WIEGERT: And does he hand you the knife then or how do you get the knife?
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: You told us in another interview that you cut her throat. Did you cut her
throat?
WIEGERT: why did you tell us that? Brendan, why did you tell us that?
BRENDAN: A little.
WIEGERT: Well, what's the truth? Tell me what the truth is.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: Brendan, you know people get nervous when they, when they lie. OK. So
you stabbed her in the stomach. Is she alive? You said Steven stabbed her first. Is she still alive
when you stab her?
FASSBENDER: was she talking, were her eyes open anything like that?
BRENDAN: No.
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FASSBENDER: How deep did the knife go in when Steven stabbed her? Do you know?
BRENDAN: Cuz after then when he told me ta stab her there was a hole in her
stomach.
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: You just stabbed her in the stomach. How deep did you put the knife in?
WIEGERT: What did it feel like when you did that? I mean did you hit anything when
you went into her?
WIEGERT: Take my pen and show me, what you would, how you did it.
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BRENDAN: Once.
WIEGERT: Did you leave the knife in or did you pull the knife out or what?
WIEGERT: OK.
WIEGERT: Where is that knife now? Oh, you know. Just tell us where the knife is.
BRENDAN: Hers.
BRENDAN: And then (pause) after that he took the gun and shot her five times.
WIEGERT: OK. And where did he shoot her? Where in the body?
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WIEGERT: But you shot her too. Brendan, did you shoot her?
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: The first time you told us ah 10 times, about 10 times, that you shot her.
And you told us where he shot her. were you lying then or are you lying now?
FASSBENDER: Why? Why are there 10 shell casings or more on that garage floor?
BRENDAN: Well there's gun shells all over the place though.
FASSBENDER: Were there gun ca-shell casings before you took her in there?
BRENDAN: A.22.
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FASSBENDER: Brendan, we don't, we don't want to make this more difficult on you than
it already is. OK. So you need to tell us the truth. If the truth doesn't match up with the facts,
you know I'm ready to tell Mark we're leavin'.
WIEGERT: I'm pretty close too because you're not telling us the truth and you're not
telling us everything you know. You're lying to us.
WIEGERT: And I'm not gonna sit here Brendan and allow you to lie to me anymore. I
don't need you to. I've got enough evidence without you. If you wanna help yourself, you have
that opportunity right now to do that. Is that what you wanna do? Do you wanna help yourselfl
Then why are you lyng? Look at me Brendan. Brendan? Brendan. Brendan.
BRENDAN: What?
WIEGERT: Why? Do you wanna continue this and talk with us and be honest with us
so we can get through this, get this
off your chest?
WIEGERT: OK.
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FASSBENDER: Could it have been more or could it have been less? Your memory savs
five. Is that what you're saying to us?
BRENDAN: mm huh..
FASSBENDER: OK.
WIEGERT: What else happened in that garugeto her? There's some other things that
we have evidence of but you need to tell me. (pause) What else happened in that gutagei
(pause) You guys did some other things to her. Just tell us.
WIEGERT: OK. What else did Steve do? Come on, it's OK. What else did Steve do
to her?
BRENDAN: Then he takes her out to the fire and then puts her in the fire and then he
came back to the garage and
WIEGERT: OK, stop. I know that's not true. You're forgetting something. After you
guys shoot her, she's on the ground in the garage. Right? On the floor?
BRENDAN: mm huh.
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BRENDAN: yeah.
BRENDAN: yeah.
FASSBENDER: And again, how did he pick her up and put her in
the jeep/
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: Did you open the back of the jeep? So he could put her
in there?
BRENDAN: It was already open.
FASSBENDER: why did he put her in the back of the jeep? what did he say/
BRENDAN: mm huh.
FASSBENDER: so then he carries, he takes her out of the jeep and puts
her back on the
floor and decides to take her out to the fire.
BRENDAN: yeah.
BRENDAN: No.
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FASSBENDER: Did you help him take her out to the fire?
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: When he came back from the fire, he had put her on the fire, now you
come back from the fire, or he does, what do you guys do?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Was there a lot of blood on the floor? (pause) In your estimation, was
there a lot of blood on the floor?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Did her, did her clothes get pretty soaked with it?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Now those jeans that we took out of your house, were those the jeans you
used that night?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: You didn't. What kinda shirt were you wearing? Do you remember?
FASSBENDER: After you clean up the garage, then what do ya guys do?
BRENDAN: we take the clothes and we throw, throw them in the fire.
FASSBENDER: Continue.
BRENDAN: And then we wait for a little bit then we throw the rest of the stuff on.
FASSBENDER: What about the jeep? The RAV4? (pause) We, we know certain things
happened. But we also don't want you to lie to us or make anything up. What happened
to the
RAV4?
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BRENDAN: It ain't.
WIEGERT: Do he drives the truck down there himself? I don't think so. Brendan.
did
you help him take the truck down there. If you did, so what.
BRENDAN: I didn't.
BRENDAN: mm huh.
BRENDAN: My mom.
FASSBENDER: See, I can,t believe that now. I'm sorry. Your mom wasn't home. your
mom was at Scott's.
WIEGERT: Brendan, d-do you want us to walk out of here? Is that what you want?
Then quit lying to us.
FASSBENDER: First version you say you went down and ended up yet with Steven with
the RAV4. You saw some things down there. You told us about those tihings.
Where,d you
come up with that? You told us that Steve took the license plates off the,r.f,i"l.. you
told us
that Steven went under the hood of the vehicle. What did you just grab that
out of the air? How
do you know those things?
WIEGERT: Your mom's not home. Why did you just lie about that?
BRENDAN: Well he didn't, didn't take the jeep down right away.
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BRENDAN: He said after the fire would go down he would take it down to the pit
and
then at that time I was at home.
BRENDAN: At 1 1:30.
WIEGERT: what about your hands? (pause) what about your hands?
BRENDAN: A little.
WIEGERT: Show me again. Grab, take this pen like it's the knife, oK. Tell me how
you stabbed her and how hard you stabbed her. Right here. (Mark demonstrates)
I mean. how
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hard did you do it? (Brendan demonstrates) That's it? I don't think so. You do that you're not
even gonna pierce the skin. Be honest here. How hard did you stab her? Show me. (Brendan
demonstrates) OK. Now if you do that, you know what happens? Blood spurts out, right? So
where did the blood go on you? Where did you have blood on ya?
WIEGERT: How did you get that blood off your hands?
WIEGERT: You know how I can tell when you're lying to me, Brendan? Your voice
changes. I've been doing this job a long time along with Tom, OK. You can't fool us, OK. you
can't continue to lie and expect us to believe this. Do you think you're that smart that you can
fool us, Brendan? Do you want to talk with us and tell us the truth?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: OK, then tell us the truth. Where did that knife so?
FASSBENDER: OK. We'll give you that. It was in the jeep. What Steven say he did aft,
he did with it after that?
BRENDAN: No I don't.
FASSBENDER: The first time we talked to you or the second time you talked about cutting
her hair off. Where did the hair go? Did you cut her hair off?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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FASSBENDER: Where did that happen?
FASSBENDER: It's impossible. You took her out to the garage and that's when you got
the knife. Explain how that can be. (pause) Did you cut her hair offl
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: Then why did you just tell us you did? Brendan?
WIEGERT: Didn,t you ask us to come here and talk to you? yes or no?
BRENDAN: yeah.
WIEGERT: Why did you ask us to come here? So you could lie to us? So you could
tell us the truth? When you gonna start that? What do you think your mom
would say if she
knew you were sitting here lying to me?
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: Do you remember what your mom said in court last week.
WIEGERT: oK, should I refresh your memory? Your mom said that Brendan doesn,t
lie and that Brendan never lies to police officers. Do you remember her saying
that?
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: oK' So when I walk.out this door right now and I go call your mom
tell her that you've been lying to me, what do you and
think she:s gonna to say? you think she,ll be
mad at you?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Do you want her mad at you? Then why are you
lying? you,re gonna tell
us the truth now? A simple question. Where is the hife? Where is the knife,
Brendan?
BRENDAN: In the house.
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WIEGERT: why not? why can't ya? you feel better just leaving your
head down?
WIEGERT: All right, well then we'll do that. First of all Brendan, were you
with the murder of Teresa Halbach, yes or no? involved
BRENDAN: Yes.
BRENDAN: Steven.
BRENDAN: Avery.
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: oK, that's the hard part; you've already admitted it, oK. That,s over.
You know the rest of it is just details. It's stuff you
don't have to lie about now. Think about
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need to talk to me though, talk to
me. Can you do that, can you be honest, yes or no?
BRENDAN: yes.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Just estimate, if you don,t know what time, just say about.
BRENDAN" 'bout 5:45 and I called TRAVIS and after I was
done with that, I watched
a little TV and then I answered the phone and it was BLAINE,s
boss. MIKE.
WIEGERT: Are you sure about that, I don't think that's true. you
it's not true? know whv I think
BRENDAN: whv?
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BRENDAN: No
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: T!e1whv did you say it? I don't understand why you,re
me you wanted to be truthful with me. You lying. you told
told me I could tell your ;;ty"u were honest.
You just lied to me. So, the truth i"you ^;;
were over by Steve's earlier, that,s
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WIEGERT: Yeah, what time did you go by Steve? you
Brendan.
know what, you know what
BRENDAN: Huh?
WIEGERT: lt's gonna be that Brendan did all this, he doesn,t want
doesn't give a shit about you. It's gonna be to go to prison, he
Brendan, Brendan, Brendan. So this is your
opportunity to be honest and tell the truth.
Are you jon"u ao that or not, yes or no?
BRENDAN: Yes.
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WIEGERT: Why did you go over there? You had this stuff planned
you? You and Steve had this planned? out already. didn,t
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: oK' And what did you have planned? Tell me what you had planned.
(pause) come on. Brendan did you have ihis ptannfaz yes
or no?
BRENDAN: Yes.
BRENDAN: Steven.
WIEGERT: When?
WIEGERT: oK, and what did you have planned to do? (pause) The details
come on' you've already given me that you were are easy,
involved in it, so just go on with the details,
paint a picture for me. obviously I know already,
I know a bunchof tiis already. I keep
proving that to you' The details are easy, just
telime what tu *r, planned and what you did,
no sweat.
WIEGERT: well let's back up a second. You said you planned this a couple
earlier, is that true or not? yes or no? days
BRENDAN: Yes.
WIEGERT: oK, so where did you plan this, by Steve's house or your house, or in the
car or what, up north, or what?
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WIEGERT: oK. And what did you guys plan to do, what was your plan/
Brendan talk to me, .er what was your plan? (pause)
WIEGERT: He didn't tell you that. Did he? Did he tell you that yes or no?
FASSBENDER: Brendan, I'm just.gonna say one thing,
to ya' I know that a lotta, alotta your relitives
i-if Mark,s gonna continue to talk
and friends have told you things, Travis,
through ma, Jodi, you got a lot of different Steven,
things going through your head, a lot of different
versions of things and the truth. The truth,
I aon't-t noi, if it means a lot to you, but you
what the truth is' And it's important that you know
tell us the truth because at least ro,o"orr" might
think it means something to you. You've got
to discount, or you gotta forget about everything
all these people telling you what happened,
what to ,uy, *hut not to say. put all those
your head and just tell us the truth. B..aur. out of
we can't teep sayin', we know the truth is you
involved' And Steven was involved, and it was were
nlouaurtilanned
through this, you have to let go of all these.otheithingr
but now as MARK takes you
p"opr" told you to say, weren,t you here
at that time? You were there at that time,
this personiuir.a, all those, those things that,
these people have told you on the phone that all
and thiough people, and just tell what you
fact. Do you know what a fact is? Brendan? know is a
BRENDAN: yes.
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WIEGERT: oK' Tell me about that day when you planned it. what was it, what did
you talk about? What did you plan to do?
BRENDAN: ,bout
what we were gonna do and that.
WIEGERT: well ya, what were, tell me what the plan was. what were you
Do you understand what I mean? oK, when you make gonna do?
u ft* was that like a list of things you,re
going to do for the day. Right? Is that what plan
a is?
BRENDAN: yeah.
WIEGERT: oK, so did you make some type of a list that you were gonna
(pause) Come up with an idea? do that day?
WIEGERT: oK' Well what did you talk about with Steve a couple days prior
(pause) Brendan what did you talk about? (pause) to?
I can,t hear you.
BRENDAN: I can't remember.
WIEGERT: OK.
WIEGERT: Just give me an idea of what Steve told you he was going
to do.
BRENDAN: Like how he was gonna do it and without someone seeing
it.
WIEGERT: Did he tell you who he was going to do it to?
BRENDAN: yeah.
BRENDAN: Teresa.
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WIEGERT: Did he tell you she was coming over? (pause) Did he tell you she was
coming over?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: Did he tell you to come over then? To help him or what did he tell you?
What did he tell you Brendan?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: I get home from school, go into the house, and while we were, me and
Blaine were walking down to the house, we were arguing, seeing who can use the phone
first,
and he said he was gonna call Jason, so he did then, (pause) at first he didn't get hold
of .em
so
then he called him later on, then I went over by Steven.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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WIEGERT oK. So when you_planned it, did you plan that, you know, if he got the
girl, that you could get some? Was that the plan? or was the planiurtio
kill her, or what was
the plan? (pause) Tell me what the plan was. (pause) Tell
me what the plan was.
WIEGERT: well what did he tell you? Did he tell you any,thing? yes or no?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Well jus that he was pissed off because Jodi wasn't with him anymore.
WIEGERT: oK. So he was pissed off that Jodi wasn't with him anymore so
then he
was gonna kill Teresa. Did he talk about a plan about having sex with her first, did he talk
about
that?
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: OK, so he was pissed off that Jodi was in jail so that's why he was gonna
kill Teresa' So oK, you go over to the house about 4:00 o'clock and you already
know she,s
there, that's what you told me, and what happens when you get ta
the house?
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WIEGERT: Then what? (pause) He asked you if you want a soda and then what?
BRENDAN: And I said yeah and then he went up and got one for me and he came back
and gave it to me and-and we sat there drink, we drank. drank it.
WIEGERT: OK, after you drank your soda, what did you talk about? Honestly, what
did you talk about?
WIEGERT: Of<, ut.r-you have your soda in the living room? what do you do next?
BRENDAN: We go into the room where she is, and talk, and
WIEGERT: What do you talk about in the room where she is?
WIEGERT: OK, and what do you do after you're done talking about having sex with
her?
BRENDAN: And he said that we would do that later and so he told me to go home
before my mom came home and, so I did and then she left and Blaine left. He called me and told
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me to come over. And he said that he had a bonfire. So we went around to pick up the yard and
that.
WIEGERT: mm huh.
BRENDAN: And then when we had all the stuff picked up, he told me to come in the
house and to start what we were planning.
WIEGERT: OK.
BRENDAN: mm huh.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
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BRENDAN: Nothin'.
WIEGERT: Between the time you left the trailer and came back to the trailer, you
think?
BRENDAN: Yeah
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: All right, after you come back to the trailer, what time do you think that is
about? Do you remember when you had sex with her about what time?
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WIEGERT: You both grabbed her didn't you? You helped carry her into the garage,
right?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN'. Zero.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: One, one question. When you went over at 4:00 o'clock Brendan,
. . ......the first time you told us that Steven was kinda sweaty and stuff. Wa-was he sweaty? Did
he tell ya that he had already had sex with her that before you got there?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: And did he tell you that he had already had sex with her once and had just
gotten done?
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WIEGERT: oK. You carried her out to the garage. what happens next?
WIEGERT: And where did he get the knife? Now, be honest here. Where did he get
the knife?
BRENDAN: Well the knife he had in his pocket because the knife was the one that he
uses for work.
WIEGERT: So, it was a pocketknife? Now, tell me what kind of knife it was. Before
you said it was a long one. Was that a lie? All right, tell me about the knife. What kind of knife
was it? Honestly, tell me what kinda knife it was.
BRENDAN: Well it was black with, it was like I don't know what its called but there
was like on the blade it was like that round thing on the top.
BRENDAN: Yes.
WIEGERT: Are you sure? How big is it? Show me how big it was.
WIEGERT: Show me. How did he have an eight-inch knife in his pocket?
WIEGERT: A pocketknife? How many knives are on there? I mean how many
blades?
BRENDAN: One.
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: oK. That's all I can ask. why don't you do that for me.
FASSBENDER: Now where's this round thing you were talkin' about at the top? That is
it? Is that a hole? Or a
FASSBENDER: OK.
BRENDAN: Mm huh.
WIEGERT: oK. Now, seriously now is the really the knife that he used?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: OK. Now how come you didn't tell me that before? All right. Sss, put
your name or sign your name down here. OK. So if he takes the knife out of the pocket and
what happens?
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Take this and pretend that's the knife. (Mark demonstrates) on the paper
it like this so you don't break it, do it on the paper like you, like you're stabbing ^ ^
and hold
somebody, like, like you stabbed her. Show me like you did it. How hard.
(Brendan demonstrates)
BRENDAN: One.
BRENDAN: Then, we take her and we put her inta the jeep.
WIEGERT: Mm hum.
BRENDAN: And he, he just suggested that he would rather bum her.
WIEGERT: OK. OK, then he suggested maybe we should burn her. Is that what you
said?
BRENDAN: Then he took her set her back on the floor and shot her 'bout five times.
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WIEGERT: Go ahead.
WIEGERT: Mm huh.
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: oK. was he happy about that? what was he saying during this?
WIEGERT: OK
BRENDAN: yeah.
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BRENDAN: He had her hands and
I had her feet.
WIEGERT: oK. Did you like swing her?
Like this rype of thing
or like what?
BRENDAN:
No' he was, he was rike
we set her on on one side of the fire
there. and I was on the other
and
WIEGERT: OK. Was the fire going alreadv?
BRENDAN: yeah.
BRENDAN: 8:50
BRENDAN: 8:50
WIEGERT: oK. So you put her on the fire. what do you put on top of her?
BRENDAN: Some tires.
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BRENDAN: we waited until most of its burned and then he swishes it around.
WIEGERT: How does he swish it around?
WIEGERT: And?
BRENDAN: A rake.
BRENDAN: yeah.
BRENDAN: yeah.
BRENDAN: He was.
WIEGERT:
oK. After it bums down, you
bones, right? Is that -') r -u take
'aKe the shovel
shover and the
what you said? tl rake and bust up the
BRENDAN: yeah.
WIEGERT:
And then what?
BRENDAN:
Then we just waited for
the fire ta go down.
WIEGERT:
Mm hum.
BRENDAN:
And then we went inta the
garageand creaned
up the blood and that.
WIEGERT: And how did ya clean the
blood up again? Tell me
again.
BRENDAN: With her clothes.
WIEGERT:
herbra? Just teu me that.
is that? Where is it? tStfr,HH]|LTlffi:ffiand oK. where
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WIEGERT: Mm hum.
WIEGERT: I think you helped him. Did you herp him? If you
did, it,s oK.
BRENDAN: Well, I helped him put the stuff in the jeep.
WIEGERT: In the back where ah, the body was you mean
or and the gun too?
BRENDAN: yeah.
WIEGERT: How did they get back in his house? you know?
BRENDAN: No.
well you told us that he took the license plates off. How did ya
il{lGERT: know
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WIEGERT: t\T^ \.^., _-^,rr
You really,
oK? where i-if you know where the
rs ttre tniilo' knife is, you have tateil
us.
WIEGERT:
onil'. prop"ny, ,",n",1bt;rti,:fhi::ffi}jlnoon'this and we come out there
and we close
BRENDAN: Mm huh.
WIEGERT:
mean was he telrin, you and him? r
,"ilT*l;,,Y"'#'.XffjilTJT#T;JTj',T,iffl;$,*n
BRENDAN: That not ta talk to the cops.
BRENDAN: yeah.
WIEGERT: oK. Did he teil you about Teresa, that he had met her before?
B\E\\DN\\I \EAh.
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WIEGERT
. oK'wanna
how he says that' I don't
So a couple days prior you said there
this lady he knows or tell me
put words l.r^yourLouth, tell me how
he says it to you.
BRENDAN: That he had a girl coming over ta take a picture
of a van.
WIEGERT: OK. What else?
BRENDAN: And then that he would do that ta her.
BRENDAN: cuz he was pissed off that Jodi was in jail again.
WIEGERT: why is he pissed off that Jodi was in jail? Did he tell ya
why?
BRENDAN: No. (shakes head..no,,)
WIEGERT: oh, yes he did' He told you why he was pissed off. probably
wasn't gettin'any or something like that's my guess. you cuz he
know what I mean bv that?
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Did he say that? If
make r"fer.,rce ta he didn,t telr me
that?o no. But did he say
that? Did he
BRENDAN: yeah.
BRENDAN: I didn,t.
WIEGERT: OK.
BRENDAN: No.
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WIEGERT:
Teresa. The whole sto.y.
' "" So tell me again why
he told you that he was
going ta do this to
BRENDAN:
BRENDAN: I didn't.
WIEGERT: well not probably' who did? If ya know you can tell me. you went over
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BRENDAN: yeah.
YJl":ttirya aidn,t};lo*li$t;J::$,Tt Jrf"f see him do it? Don't rie about it. rrya
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Mm huh.
WIEGERT: why did you lie ta me? Do you know, do you remember
that at all?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
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WIEGERT: Grz r, rr r-.^_-r.,
cuz' you went through
out of her purse? her purse, didn't you? So how did the money
get
BRENDAN: He gave it ta me.
BRENDAN: No.
BRE\DAN: No.
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WIEGERT: so now you remember a little more clearly? oK. How much of her hair
did you cut off?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: yeah.
BRENDAN: Teresa.
BRENDAN: Halbach.
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BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: Does anybody else know about this besides you and steven?
WIEGERT: so I think somebody else does. who else knows about this?
BRENDAN: No one.
BRENDAN: The last time I talked to'em was or the first time I talked to ,em before my
birthday or after my birthday was on Decemb er 25th when we were over by
his house for
Christmas.
WIEGERT oK. We heard you were crying a lot. Is that true? It's oK. If you were,
it's OK. I understand that.
BRENDAN: yeah.
BRENDAN: cuz after a while I was thinking that I did the wrong thing.
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WIEGERT: So the day after, you were oK. A couple of days after you were oK?
BRENDAN: yeah.
WIEGERT: And then about two weeks, then you started feeling bad. What did you
feel bad about?
WIEGERT: What da you think should happen to you? Just asking your opinion what
do you think should happen to you?
WIEGERT: Then what? What do you think should happen to Steve? What do you
think should happen to Steve?
WIEGERT: If you could say something to Teresa's mom and brothers and the rest of
her family, what would you say?
BRENDAN: That I was sorry for what I did and to take a-apology.
WIEGERT: Whar am I forgetting to ask you? There's something you wanna tell me?
What else do ya wanna tell me? What else do ya wanna tell me?
WIEGERT: oK. when you gonna tell your mom about this?
BRENDAN: Probably the next time I see her.
WIEGERT: Cuz you're lied to her so far, right? Don't you think you should call her
and tell her?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Yeah. I think she'd like to hear it coming from you rather than from me.
BRENDAN: And if she has any questions cuz I'm seeing her tomorrow.
BRENDAN: Mm huh.
WIEGERT: Then maybe it be a good idea to call her and tell her before she gets here
tonight. That's what I would do. Cuz, otherwise, she's gonna be really mad here tomorrow.
Better on the phone, isn't it?
BRENDAN: Mm huh.
WIEGERT: That's up to you though, that's your decision whether you want to do that
or not. It's just a suggestion. IJm, that key from the, from the jeep, from Teresa's jeep. Tell me
about that key. Where did Steve have it hidden?
WIEGERT: Where in his bedroom? He told you where it was. Did he tell you where
it was?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: OK
BRENDAN: And he took it out because he was going to get rid of it, but he, he had to
hurry up to get the phone because he had to answer it so he let the key there.
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WIEGERT: How do you know that? How do you know that Brendan?
WIEGERT: You were there the day he dropped it? And what day was that?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Cuz I seen 'em pulling his dresser drawer and I seen it in his hands.
WIEGERT: OK, and what else did you see? So you're in the bedroom with him?
WIEGERT: You can't see the dresser from the couch, can you?
WIEGERT: He had the bed where the window was when Teresa was there?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: So, could you draw out where the key was, or well let's just go back to the
key. You said you see him take it out of the dresser?
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: That he had the key in his hand but then he dropped it ta answer the
phone.
BRENDAN: And then he walked into the living room and sat down by the computer
and talked ta whoever was on the phone.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: On November 2nd you were over at his house. What were you guys
talking about that day?
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: Come on, you just, you just killed a girl and you didn't talk about it at all?
I don't believe that. You told me he was gonna get rid of that key. What was he gonna do with
the key? Why did he go get the key that day?
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BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: What did he do with the knife? What did he do with the knife?
BRENDAN: Outside.
BRENDAN: yeah.
WIEGERT: I think that's a lie. I can tell by your voice. Did you see him clean the
knife? Don't lie.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
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BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: You helped Steve put that cardboard on top of her car, didn't you?
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: You guys talk about this when you were up north? Talk about like a plane
flying over, anything like that? Were you nervous about that?
BRENDAN: When he seen the air, the airplane he said that they must be on to 'em and
that.
WIEGERT: The night that his happened, October 3l't, Halloween night, when you
were at the house, did Steve get any phone calls?
WIEGERT: You told me last time you did. You told me Jodi called. You're nodding
your head. Tell me, did Jodi call?
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Then why did you just say no? Do you want Jodi to go to prison too?
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: Why was the wash machine running that night? What did you guys put in
the wash machine?
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: Can you draw me the way the bedroom looked that day. Go ahead and
draw the bedroom.
(Brendan drawing)
BRENDAN: Right here. (pause) And there's like a closet right over here.
BRENDAN: Mm hum.
WIEGERT: And this is the hallway? OK. So now the bed's over here. He chansed it
after he killed her?
BRENDAN: Mm hum.
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BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: OK. Where did you see him drop the key?
WIEGERT: Did you really see that? Brendan? Did you really see him drop the key?
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: Then why did you say that? Did you or didn't you?
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: oK. well, you know what? This inten iew is finished. you lied one too
many times to me. Sorry, we're done. We have a problem with that. Do you have anything
else
you want to say before we leave? I hope you call your mom before I do.
FASSBENDER: Brendan, I, I, I want you to have a chance here. why, why did vou lie
about the key?
BRENDAN: That people are telling me not to say anything and that.
FASSBENDER: OK. How's that relate to the key? Are you trying ta, are you trying to
help us too much? The only way you can help us is by telling the truth,1he facts. If you try to
help us too much, that really doesn't help. You can try and help all these other people that tell
you things, that doesn't help. You need to help yourself. And that's by tellin', ihui,, by tellin,
the truth. You have to be a little selfish here right now and not what worry about what might
help us and not woffy about what might help other people. You have to really be selfish right
now and think what's gonna help me and I think you believe that that probabiy is the truth. you
thought about two weeks after, you know, that you and Steven killed i".esa and you got feelin'
really bad. And you probably felt really bad about the Halbachs because they were lobkin and,
and they probably knew now that their daughter was dead. That's a pretty..rio.r, thing to do,
right? To kill someone?
BRENDAN: Mm hum.
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FASSBENDER: And now you get a chance to help the Halbachs. That's the, it's the only
people you and the Halbachs that should matter right now. You can do something for them and I
think you have. You, You,you have. You, you admitted to what you did and you told us what
Steven did. But you can't make things up about some of the details cuz that's hurting the
Halbachs, it's hurting you. (ringing telephone) So some of those details, yeah, Mark's gonna
leave but I think I can talk him into just stayin' for a moment yet to give you another chance to
go over a few of these details and make us believers that your telling the truth, not what we
wanna hear, or not what you think we wanna hear. Cuz that's all done and over. you've
admitted to what you did. Now you need to tell us the truth about some of those details so
Teresa's family can feel good about what you've said and we can feel good and especially you.
Do you understand that? OK. Mark, would you be willin' to stay just a couple more minutes?
WIEGERT: What about the key? Did you actually see the key?
BRENDAN: Yes.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Explain to me how you see him drop it over here if you're out here on the
couch.
WIEGERT: Sorry about that. How do you see him drop it if you're out here?
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WIEGERT: OK. So if the bed is in between you and where he dropped it, how would
you see that? How do you explain that to me?
WIEGERT: Don't you understand what I am saying? If you're here, the bed is in the
middle and he's here, could you see that?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: That he was standin' there, he had the key in his hand and then the phone
rang and so he dropped the key and ran for the phone.
FASSBENDER: Starting just prior to the phone, like he's in the bedroom talkin' to you out
there and stuff?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Mm hum.
FASSBENDER: OK.
FASSBENDER: If you want me to believe that's how that happened now OK. Is that true?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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FASSBENDER: All right. And you're telling me that when you told Mark that you didn't
see it, is that when you were startin to think about what people told you to say and thinking about
that type of stuff?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: OK. I can understand that. Are you now on, on the same page as us?
Trying to help Teresa?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: And to help yourself. Because like you said the worst is over. you,
you've never, you've never waivered on the fact that you helped Steven do this, and, and that's
the truth. OK. It's just some of those little details that, that had to be ironed out. When you saw
Teresa in the house and up until she went to the garage, was she, did you ever see her bleeding?
In the house?
FASSBENDER: Did anyone ever hit her or hurt her that you saw" in the house?
FASSBENDER: What about any, injuries to Steven? Again, the Halbachs are what matter
here. Did Steven hurt himself.r
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: OK. Did Steven ever tell you how he got her tied up back there? How did
he do that?
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FASSBENDER: Brendan, I have a feeling he's gonna tell you something like that. I mean,
I, I don't believe you believed for any second that she just walked back there and, and allowed
herself to get tied up. Then how did he say he did it?
WIEGERT: Let's talk about Halloween. That was on Halloween, right? Do you know
anything about Steve being into Satan stuff. Did you ever talk about that at all?
WIEGERT: When you were doing this planning thing a couple days before, did he talk
about that?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: That's true? How did he get Teresa into the house? Did you help him?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No one.
FASSBENDER: That had to be a part of the planning, right? Or him telling you later.
You're thinking too much Brendan. Any time you don't answer fairly quick that means you're
thinking too much. You don't need to think about the truth.
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BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: Then just say that. I, I think you do but we'll go onto something else right
now. Obviously you don't want to talk about that. Did you ride down in her jeep to that pit?
Where he covered it up?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: That was the day you said you saw him with the key. You know what day
it was?
BRENDAN: Wednesday.
WIEGERT: Let's go back to this key for second? Did you really see him drop that
key?
BRENDAN: Yes.
WIEGERT: And he forgets to pick it up, is that what you told me?
BRENDAN: mm huh.
WIEGERT: So that day he was getting a key out, why was he getting the key out?
WIEGERT: Well how could he get rid of that when he still had the truck, didn't he
need the key for the truck.
BRENDAN: No.
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BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Nothin'
WIEGERT: You just said that he told you he put it in the bum barrel. What did he tell
you he put in there?
WIEGERT: What kind of things did he put in the burn barrel? What kind of items?
BRENDAN: A camera.
WIEGERT: How much money did you guys take from her?
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BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Huh?
WIEGERT: That you guys took pictures of her. That's true isn't it?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Nothin'
WIEGERT: You told him you saw the body in the fire.
WIEGERT: Brendan, did you, were you guys drinking before this at all?
BRENDAN: No.
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BRENDAN: No I don't.
WIEGERT: well how come you and Travis tark about it a lot?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Cigars.
BRENDAN: Occasionally.
WIEGERT: How much blood did you have on you after she got stabbed? Do you
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WIEGERT: oK. what happened with the stuff that was on your hands?
WIEGERT: Where?
WIEGERT: OK. What about the bed sheets, did he do anything with the bed sheets at
all?
WIEGERT: Did he talk to you about DNA? About getting rid of the stuff for DNA?
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: Where else would I find blood if I was looking for blood? In the house?
Tell me where I should look.
WIEGERT: What would be on the carpet, you think? What do you think would be
there?
WIEGERT: Did he tell you that he unhooked the battery on her jeep?
WIEGERT: Did he talk ta, you guys hung out a lot right'? You and him, you were
perfect buds.
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Did he talk a lot about killing people? (pause) Stay with me here. Did he
talk a lot about killing people?
WIEGERT: When was the first time he had mentioned killing somebody?
BRENDAN: Cuzwe were watchin' TV and on the news there was someone that killed
someone.
BRENDAN: The girl that takes the pictures of cars for a magazine.
WIEGERT: And he told you that while he was sitting at his house, watching TV?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Did you say anything to him like you shouldn't do that or?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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FASSBENDER: I think you're doing better Brendan, I really do. You still remembering
about Teresa, and yourself, and that's why you're doing this right?
BRENDAN: mm huh.
FASSBENDER: That's good. I think that's good, I really do. While you, while you went
out, I asked him about, ah if-if he saw any blood on Teresa or Teresa bleeding at all while she
was in that house and he said no. Ah, then you came in, we were talking about his injury.
Brendan, when Teresa was on the bed, wh-where, what was on the bed, sheets, blankLts, what
was on the bed?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: He did. Did she have her socks on? Da-think about it now and try to
remember, was she totally naked or did she have her socks on, or anything like that? (pause)
And if you can't remember or you don't know, you say that too.
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: No what?
FASSBENDER: No socks on, oh OK. And the handcuffs, didn't have anything on them.
j ust regular handcuffs?
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BRENDAN: mm huh.
FASSBENDER: OK.
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: How did she get all her clothes offl
BRENDAN: Steven.
WIEGERT: That's got to be hard though, don't you think, trying to hide somebody and
take their clothes off, byyourselfl I think you helped, didn't you?
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: So when you took her out to the garage, show me again how she was tied
up, with her, with your hands.
FASSBENDER: If she's alive and everything when you carried her out to the garage, is that
true?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Yeah, who held the door open for him to get out in the garage or out of the
house?
BRENDAN: I did.
FASSBENDER: Brendan, oh go ahead. Brendan, when you got home that night, did you
wash any of your clothes? The truth, you don't have to think about that answer.
BRENDAN: No.
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FASSBENDER: Were they washed from between the time you went home that night and
the time we got them?
BRENDAN: Twice.
BRENDAN: mm huh.
FASSBENDER: That they were washed. Did Steven tell you to wash .em?
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: I just have a few things for closing, when you're done.
FASSBENDER: OK. Another question again, Teresa and you are important here, that's all
that matters right now, not Steven, you're being selfish. In a, in our first interview you talk about
helping Steven put the hood on the car and branches and stuff like that, did you help him do that?
Don't think, did you help him do that?
BRENDAN: Yes.
FASSBENDER: That's what I thought. Because you wouldn't have known that otherwise.
So when and how did you help him do that? Again, don't have to think, when did it happen? At
night?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: So you did go down to the pit with him that night.
BRENDAN: mm huh.
BRENDAN: Well the way we got down there was the back way where behind this
cabin, and cuz there's a field right behind, there's trees behind them, there's a field there, there's
away back there.
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FASSBENDER: Yeah.
BRENDAN: So that's the way we took, and then went down in the pit and put it right
by the lake, so it, it wouldn't take that long to crush it, cuzit was close to the place where th-ey
crush.
FASSBENDER: I think Teresa's startin' be happy with you right now, cuz I think that,s the
truth. And then what'd you do after you put the car there?
FASSBENDER: And then what happened? Is this when you saw him do some things to the
cat?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Well he went under the hood and did some stuff, but I didn't see 'em.
FASSBENDER: mm huh.
BRENDAN: And by the time we got back, it was close to 10:00 o'clock.
FASSBENDER: Right.
BRENDAN: Then I went home and talked to my mom a little bit and went to bed.
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FASSBENDER: oK. on the way back up, what did you do with the plates? Again,
Teresa's here and she' s thanking you for being honest. Do you know what he
did with the
plates?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Yes.
BRENDAN: mm huh.
FASSBENDER: OK. And when you went home that night around 10:00 o'clock. are vou
sure your mom was home or could you be mixing that up with another night.
FASSBENDER: OK. The bed sheets and the bedding, do you know whether or not that
was taken off and burned, cuz the first time you said you, you thought it was. Again we just
want the truth, not what other people are saying, Teresa wants the truth, the Halbachs aren't
gonna be happy with you that you did this, but they're gonna be happy that you're
tellin, the
truth, you understand that, right? OK, the sheets and the bedding, alO it gei destroyed or not?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Steven.
BRENDAN: No.
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BRENDAN: Cuzthat, that two days after I was over there, he said that he got rid of
'em.
FASSBENDER: oK. I just got a couple more things here and Mark might ask more also.
We talked about 'em ejaculating right? A-an di-did you ever hear it calling ciming,
when a
person comes?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Yeah. Di-wh-when you had sex with TERESA, did vou come?
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: No. Did you have an erection, w-was your, your penis hard?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: OK. Did it stay hard? While you were having sex or did it, did it get soft
agatn?
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: No what?
FASSBENDER: OK. OK. Did you ah, did you see Steven um have sex with Teresa?
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: For Teresa now, she needs the truth, did you see Steven have sex with her?
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: No, OK. Now is the time to really get stuff off your chest too. Mark
asked ifyou and Steven ever had sex and you said no, but ah, did Steven ever, let,s talk about,
you know what masturbating is?
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Did you and Steven ever masturbate together or anything like that?
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: It's all right. Did he ever touch you? You don't need to think about that
question. Did he ever touch you, it,s all right, now is the time.
BRENDAN: Sometimes.
FASSBENDER: OK, and that's all right that you talk about this, this is the time to talk
about it, cuz it's important. It's important to know, and for the courts and everyone else to know
what you've gone through. It makes us feel a lot more for you OK? And by privates you mean
by, by your penis?
BRENDAN: mm huh.
BRENDAN: No.
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FASSBENDER: oh oK. And what did you tell 'em when he did thatt
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: Yes.
FASSBENDER: Just try ta ah grab yours through your pants a couple times or sometimes?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: And you told him no, or just tried to get him off you.
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FASSBENDER: By getting him off of you, was he kinda, what was he doing, pushing
against or leaning against you or anything like that or?
FASSBENDER: Oh. And he grabbed you down there? Is that all he's ever done?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Cuz we need to know now, it's not gonna help to tell us a month from
now, two months from now, two years from now, cuz then they're gonna go, Brendan, why
didn't you tell the investigators at that time? Is there anything else he did to you sexually?
BRENDAN: No.
BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: Have you told Mark everything now that, that truthfully?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: And now we just got about the car, that was something you didn't tell
Mark, right?
FASSBENDER: Is there anything else, the knife, the bum barrel? You've got a chance to
talk right to Teresa now, cuz I believe Teresa's in heaven and she can hear you. Do you believe
that?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: So now's your chance to talk to Teresa. And really help at least you inner
self, right? Think about everything that we talked or Mark asked y'a about. You didn't tell us the
truth about the car and I have a feeling, I know why. We knew the route that car took and you
just finally told us that. What else i-if anything is there that we need to clear up before we're
done today?
BRENDAN: No.
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FASSBENDER: After Teresa's, disa-or after you guys killed Teresa? Right? This last
December?
BRENDAN: I think.
BRENDAN: well ah my, my family was going ta, no wait it couldn't ta been this year.
it was last year.
FASSBENDER: oK. It's good that you're thinkin' like that. And yo-you're being honest.
BRENDAN: And because there was one night in October for me and a group and my
family didn't want ta go so when they went for Blaine's and that I didn't wanna go so they wLre
tryin' to get me into the vehicle and then when they, they couldn't, they called Steven and he
tried to help but they couldn't do it, so they left me alone and they said they decided that they
weren't gonna go, so I stayed outside with my shirt off because they ripped, they pulled it off
when they were trying to get me into the je-the suburban. So after that,lbout ten minutes later,
my mom came over, she was lookin' for me and then when she heard a-a noise, she came over
by me and she said come in the house and talk to her and tell her why I didn't wanna go and I
told her and then after that we went.
BRENDAN: Cuz I was pissed off at 'em for not makin', to not go to mine.
FASSBENDER: OK, that makes sense. And when you say Steven beat on you, was it
when they were tryin' to get you in the car or was it after that?
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BRENDAN: When they were tryin' to get me off the ground an, cuzthere was my
mom' Blaine, Bryan, Bobbie and Steven, tryin' to get me into the Suburban. But when
they
couldn't do that because it was really hard for ,em to get me up.
BRENDAN: Huh?
BRENDAN: And then when they couldn't do that, Steven he dropped me and then he
started punching me and that.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: No, was your mom there when Steven was hitting you in the face?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
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FASSBENDER: When-wouldda-would it be fair to say that in your mind. was Steven out
of control?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Yeah. He lost his temper, did he look at all anytime the night that you
were with Teresa, was he like that at anytime that night?
FASSBENDER: Was he calm, most of the night with her, all the night with Teresa?
FAASSBENDER: But he never got 'er, did he ever get to the point where he was real angry
or lost his temper?
FASSBENDER: Again, yo-you know this pretty much probably is gonna be your last time
and, and I think we got Teresa's attention, and by gettin' her attention with what you're sayin',
and we got the whole family's attention and they're gonna know if actually this all gonna come
out, they're gonna know what you did for her after you did a very, very, very, very, very bad
thing to her. But now you're tryin' to make up for that. I truly believe that. So we're gonna
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glve you an opportunity right now, again, is there anything else? You know all the stuff you told
us. Um, even the little things are important to us, whether it's a pair of underwear that you know
went somewhere or somethin' happened to it that i-it was, that the haircutting thing, an
if. . ' . . . ..the facts, we never did get that clear. For Teresa, wh-did you, did u.tyon" cut her hair off
that night?
FASSBENDER: Where did you get that from? (pause) I mean it seems kinda strange that
you just all of a sudden told us you had cut her hair off. Where did you get that from, if it's not
true?
FASSBENDER: why? Did you think that was somethin' we wanted to hear?
FASSBENDER: Brendan, didn't, did someone some one cut her hair off that nieht?
Truthfully, for Teresa.
FASSBENDER: oK. And you're, you're not, look at me, you're absolutely positive?
FASSBENDER: OK.
WIEGERT: Who else, who was all involved, Brendan? Look at me once too. Just
look at me and tell me who was all involved that nisht.
WIEGERT: Just you and Steven. And you and Steven both were involved in killing
her?
WIEGERT: Did Steve ever tell you that he killed anvbodv else?
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BRENDAN: No.
FASSBENDER: Did you 'um. Wha-what did you all tell Blane about this? Cuz, Blane is,
I, I'm, Mark and I have both heard from a previous source that Blane is kinda hurting right now,
kinda like you were. Depressed,
FASSBENDER: Losing weight, stuff like that, something's bothering him. Ah, man, and
we, we, we wanna know was he involved in, ta any amount or degree, cuz then he needs help.
Or did you tell him some of these things, that that's bothering him, that he knows in the back of
his mind you had told him and, and that's bothering him, that's hurting him? He can't get in
trouble for that, per se. He shoulda told us that he knows and he could get, get in some trouble
for that but he wasn't involved. Again, that you don't have ta think about that. Did you, did you
tell Blaine some things? Cuz, we want ta number one try and get him some help.
WIEGERT: Did ya tell anybody? You don't have ta think about that either. Did ya
tell anybody?
BRENDAN: Just that one day when I was over there for a birthday party for her, her
friend that ah when they were in their room and I was sitting by the door.
WIEGERT: Mm huh.
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BRENDAN: She came out and she wanted ta talk ta me and that and she
asked me why
I was so sad and then,I told her why and then after that everybody else came
out like Travis and
his' his cousin and a friend and after a while I had ta get up and I went
into Marie,s room fer a
little bit and then they came in and they asked me, thJy were feelin, bad
for me.
FASSBENDER: Some good friend. Did: what did you tell ah Kayla when she
asked ya
what was wrong? well, tell us what you told her that you remember.
FASSBENDER: Didn't she ask ya what you meant? Did what? Did you tell her some
parts of this?
FASSBENDER: Wa, did she ask you what you meant when you said you were sorry fbr
what you did?
FASSBENDER: And I think you told her a little bit. Cuz, we talked ta Kayla. What did
you tell her? If you remember.
FASSBENDER: OK.
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WIEGERT: what about you and Did you ever have sex before you had it with
Teresa?
BRENDAN: Mm huh.
FASSBENDER: Did you ever fool around with a girl? Not sex but just fool around.
BRENDAN: No.
WIEGERT: Is there anything on your computer that we should know about? you talk
ta anybody about this online?
WIEGERT: You would ask people that? why would you ask people that?
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: MSN for ah chat rooms and stuff. Email type name.
BRENDAN: Well, some people said that I spelled it wrong, but I think I did after a
while.
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BRENDAN: NIGER
FASSBENDER: And the rest of it was what?
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: You feelin' pretty relaxed now? You're looking a lot more relaxed.
You're actually lookin' at us now and saw a couple of actual smiles.
(door opens)
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WIEGERT: Tom's gonna be back in a second. OK? Um, would you be willing to
draw out which route you took with her jeep? Think you could do that? eti rignt.
I,ll giire you
this again. We'll just say, you know, you probably wanna draw like Steve's tri'iler yoriho.r*",
you know' mom and dads, Chuckie's, you know and then like the pits over here
and you know
which ever route you took. Can you do that?
WIEGERT: Mmm, you don't have ta, yeah, if you want to. Just draw a straight line or
whatever. What's that mean.
BRENDAN: Huh?
WIEGERT: .
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: OK.
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FASSBENDER: You can put X's for trees. Yeah. OK. Hang on just a second. Those are
trees right along Steven's? Is that what that is?
BRENDAN: Mm huh.
FASSBENDER: Cuz what I'm gonna do if you don't mind, take it out. I'm gonna take
another one, cuz I don't want you to be too and if you have ta you can kinda go into this and do
what you have ta do. Just so you have enough paper, OK? If you don't have to, you don,t have
to.
FASSBENDER: Right. If ya have ta, show kinda the field there, that's fine. We can tape
that together. If you wanna just say that this is the field, make it a short field, that's fine. I iust
wanted ta give you enough room.
(door opens)
(door closes)
FASSBENDER: OK.
WIEGERT: OK.
FASSBENDER: Did he go all the way along the other side of the field and down this road
back in here the dirt road?
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: The jeep, yeah. When you drove it down here, where did you park it?
WIEGERT: OK. Lets put an X there. And which way was it facing?
FASSBENDER: oK. Don't guess then. Just say you don't remember. you don't
remember which way it was facing.? OK. Remember this, here's Stevens, right? Is that his
gatage?
BRENDAN: Mm huh.
FASSBENDER: If you go out here on the, on the frontage road or the road that comes
down, there's that field and we know about that, if you go past that field, do you remember, do
you know about a road that goes back in here then there's some huntin' cabins back in here?
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BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: No. You went along this little, um, there a berm kinda right? A, a ledge
and then on the other side there's a pit that the gravel pit and this side is the salvage yard.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
BRENDAN: Yeah.
FASSBENDER: Oh. And then down here you're able to get off that thing and get inta the
yard, huh?
BRENDAN: Mm huh.
WIEGERT: '06. I just got one question for you, Brendan, yet. Did you guys take any
of the bones out of that bum pile?
FASSBENDER: Kinda gotta a difficult question again in a sense ah, but again I think your
doing, you-your feelin' a lot better because of you know that Teresa's feeling a lot better what
your doing. When, when you saw her and that whole night everytime you saw her, did you see
any bruises or red marks on her or anything where, where she might have been grabbed, twisted,
punched or anlhing like that?
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FASSBENDER: Because the-the reason I'm askin' that is if, if Steven were to try and get
someone in, into a position he has ultimately got her in, I don't think she's gonna go along with
the program. Do you agree with that? So there's probably some physical altercati,on goin-, on.
Do you agree with that?
BRENDAN: Mm huh.
FASSBENDER: Is everything at this point in time, you told us the truth as you know it?
BRENDAN: Yeah.
WIEGERT: What is, something real quick. Was she, she was a kinda of a fighter,
huh? She would fight a little bit? Anything you wanna say ta Teresa or her family right now
since you're being taped?
FASSBENDER: Mark mentioned talkin' to your mom about this and being truthful with
her now. OK? If you're truly sorry to the Halbachs, you'll be, you'll tell your mother the truth
about this. OK?
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BRENDAN: Tonight.
WIEGERT: OK. Probably be a good idea before we tell her. That be the right thing to
do. Your mom deserves ta know. OK?
WIEGERT: We'll get the guard back in ta take you back right in time for lunch. I'll
stay here with him
WIEGERT: I think we'll leave that door open, it's getting hot in here.
(door opens)
WIEGERT: Gettin'hot.
FASSBENDER: Huh?
FASSBENDER: Yeah. You hot? All right? We're not gonna have ta come back again, are
we?
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FASSBENDER: what time do they give you lunch usually up there, Brendan?
WIEGERT: . . with your mom too. oK? Tell her exactly what you told
us.
FASSBENDER: So that she can quit blaming us for everything, all right?
WIEGERT: cuz, once she sees the tape, she's gonna know an)'way.
FASSBENDER: And just like I told ya with your attorneys that's, that's the only way she
can help you too, is if she knows the truth and that she knows what type of help ta try and get
you.
BRENDAN: Cuz, like four weeks ago I called him and left a, an, um answering
machine, a message on his answering machine but he never did what I told him to cuz I was
giving him permission ta talk to my mom about what he's gonna be doing and that.
FASSBENDER: OK. Is that better? I mean the attorney talks to ya now doesn't he and
stuff?
WIEGERT: Have you told him that he can tell your mom stuff.
WIEGERT: OK. If you want your mom to know, your gonna have ta tell him that.
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FASSBENDER: Cuz,he is your attorney. Not your moms. He can't disclose stuff ta mom
that he talks about with you unless you tell him directly that he can. OK? So make sure that you
do that.
WIEGERT: Kinda of like you told him you wanted ta talk with us. That's the only
way that we could do that. We're all set.
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On 05/16/06, I (Inv. WIEGERT of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF's DEPT.), along with Inv.
STEIER of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF' DEPT.) went to the address of 12930 Avery Rd.,
Two Rivers, to meet with BARB JANDA. In speaking with BARB JANDA, we asked if she
knew the whereabouts of BRENDAN DASSEY's wallet. BARB did produce a brown and black
wallet, which she stated was BRENDAN's. She stated that BRENDAN had lost the wallet
previously and that she had found the wallet underneath the TV stand. I informed BARB with
her permission I would like to take the wallet into our custody. My reason for taking the wallet
into custody was that there was supposedly some money, which BRENDAN had received from
TERESA HALBACH after her murder. That money reportedly was still located in that wallet.
BARB agreed to allow me to take the wallet into custody. At that time I did apply gloves and
counted the money that was located in that wallet in front of BARB JANDA. It should be noted
there was a total of $31 located in the wallet. The wallet contained one ten-dollar bill, one five-
dollar bill and the rest of the bills were singles. It should be noted that BARB indicated to me she
had placed approximately twelve dollars into BRENDAN's wallet which she had received from
her niece who had sold several items to raise money for BRENDAN.
The wallet was taken under Property Tag#9228 and secured in the CALUMET COLINTY
EVIDENCE ROOM for safekeeping.
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The plastic like film, Item GI 1, was identified as polypropylene. Polypropylene plastic has
many uses including packaging film, appliances, coated and laminated products and bottles.
Item GI 2 was examined for the presence of rope fibers. No fibers consistent with rope were
detected.
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At approximately 8;26 a.m., the storage shed, which was secured, was opened by Deputy
HAWKINS. The vehicle was then pulled out of the storage shed so that Attorneys STRANG
and BUTING could examine the vehicle.
At approximately 8:31 a.m., the back hatch, which was sealed by evidence tape, was opened.
At approximately 8:37 a.m., the passenger side front and back door were opened.
At approximately 8:44 a.m., the driver's side front and rear door were opened.
Again, it should be noted that all doors had been secured by evidence tape and were opened by
Deputy HAWKINS.
At approximately 9:15 a.m., all doors and hood were again secured by Deputy HAWKINS and
evidence tape was placed over the doors. The vehicle was then put back into the storage shed
and it was secured at 9:27 a.m. All parties exited the area.
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On Wednesday,06107106, I (DEDERING) did photograph various items that were in the care
and custody of the Evidence Custodian, JEREMY HAWKINS. These items consisted of the
following:
These items were downloaded to a computer and subsequently placed on a digital disc.
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On Monday,06126106, at 1400 hours, I (DEDERING) did receive from FBI Agent GERALD
MULLEN evidence listed under Property Tag#8316 (contents of "cell phone" barrel). I did sign
for the item at that time.
At 1530 hours, I (DEDERING) did log the evidence into the care and custody of our evidence
custodian.
It should be noted I did not have access to the custody document at the time I signed for the item
from FBI Agent MULLEN and, therefore, just drew an affow from his signature (the last
individual shown as having custody) to the block tuming the item over to me.
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I did request that CURT send me the schematics of the battery and its connections. It should be
noted I did receive a fax from CURT of those schematics.
Investigation continues.
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ft"dicated she had gotten a free key chain, which detaches. She described it as a royal
On07112106, Deputy JEREMY HAWKINS, who would be our evidence custodian, and I went
down to the evidence room and removed the blue lanyard portion, which would be the portion
which would go around your neck, from evidence. It should be noted that blue lanyard, which
was found in TERESA's vehicle, would be royal blue and would say AIR NATIONAL GUARD
on it in white letters and it also had the e-mail address for the AIR NATIONAL GUARD on it in
white letters. Deputy HAWKINS removed the portion, which the Toyota key was found
attached to, from evidence. It should be noted that portion of the key chain was also royal blue
in color and had attached to it the Toyota key, which fit TERESA HALBACH's vehicle, which
was found in STEVEN AVERY's bedroom.
I then applied new gloves to my hands and took the portion in which the key was attached to and
the portion.which was found in TERESA's vehicle. It should be rroted that both ends, one a male
and one a female end, the male end being on the portion in which the key was attached to, the
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female end being on the portion that goes around your neck, did fit together and clicked firmly.
It appeared asis though these two rtems
items would go together as they do fit together and
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The portion which goes around your neck appearsio be the Jne thut
had described to me as given to TERESA.
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All items were kept in Deputy HAWKINS' sight duringthis procedure. I witnessed Deputy
HAWKINS repackage and seal both items and place them back into evidence.
Investigation continues.
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On07105106' I (Inv. WIEGERT of the CALUMET CO. SHERIFF's DEPT.) was handed an
envelope by the victim/witness coordinator JULIE LEVERENZ. JIJLTE indicated she was
handed the envelope by KAREN HALBACH, TERESA's mother, and it contained two receipts,
which our department was looking for.
The first receipt would be what appears to be an original TARGET store receipt, dated llll5l04
at 3:36 p.m. The noteworthy items on that receipt would be a Palm Zire for $ 14.99, and a
PalmOne for $149.99.
I did contact a representative of the TARGET store who explained that the PalmZire and the
PalmOne would be the handheld palm and the software to operate the palm device. It should be
noted that this receipt would be for the same item as the Palm Zire, which was found in a burnine
barrel in front of the STEVEN AVERY trailer.
The second receipt was from CINGULAR at 677 Bay Park Square in Green Bay. That receipt is
dated 08/30105 at Il:27 a.m. That receipt reflects a MO V3 O for $199.00. I did contact the
CINGULAR company in Green Bay. They indicated MO would stand for Motorola and V3
would be the type of phone, which was purchased. It should be noted that that receipt resembles
the Motorola V3 RAZR phone, which was also found in the burn barrel in front of STEVEN
AVERY's trailer.
It should be noted that I did contact KAREN HALBACH. KAREN indicated to me she had
discovered these receipts in her daughter, TERESA's, personal effects and papers. Again these
receipts, which were found in TERESA HALBACH's personal property, appeared to reflect the
same items, which were recovered in the burn barrel in front of STEVEN AVERY's trailer.
The TARGET receipt was placed into evidence for safekeeping under Property Tag No. 9232.
The CINGULAR receipt was also placed into the evidence room for safekeeping under Property
Tag No. 9233.
Investigation continues.
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After Inv. STEIER was finished separating the 16 pieces of concrete floor, all 16 pieces were
placed into the secure storage cabinets and then custody of the 1 6 pieces of concrete floor
were
signed over to myself from Inv. STEIER. The 16 pieces of concrete floor are under Evidence
Tag#8610,#8275,#8276,#8271,#8218,#8279,#8280,#g2g1, #92g2,#g2g3,#g2g4,#g2g5,
#8286, #8287 , #82 8 8 and #8289 . All 1 6 pieces of concrete floor were transported to the secure
storage in the garage at the CALUMET coI-rNTy SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
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At approximately 2045 hours, I photographed a possible stain on the left leg of the headboard.
After photographing the possible stain on the left leg of the headboard, Sgt. TYSON proceeded
to take a swab of a red stain and then a control swab next to the stain. The location of the first
possible stain that was swabbed was approximately 10 Yt" from the bottom and three-fourths
over from the end of the leg.
At approximately 2108 hours, I photographed a stain 1'8 %" from the bottom and aYz" from the
front of the post on the side of the left leg. Sgt. TYSON then proceeded to take a swab of that
stain and also a control swab by the stain.
At approximately 2117 hours, I photographed athird stain. Sgt. TYSON then proceeded to take
a swab of the stain and also a control swab next to the stain. A Presumptive Test on a stain by
the bottom of the post on the left leg was conducted by Sgt. TYSON.
At approximately 2137 hours, a long, possible hair fiber on the left side plywood wood piece of
the headboard was located. The possible hair fiber was photographed and then collected by
myself.
At approximately 2144hours, I went and discarded the gloves I had been wearing and put on
new gloves.
At approximately 2149 hours, a possible hair was photographed on the right side of the
headboard on a small plyr,vood piece. The hair was then collected.
At2156 hours, I photographed a piece of toilet paper with possible hair on it, which was located
on the right side of the headboard. The possible hair and the toilet paper were collected by
myself.
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After the possible hair and toilet paper was collected, the headboard was then repackaged and
placed into secure evidence by Sgt. TYSON and myself.
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On03129106 at approximately 1852 hours, Sgt. BILL TYSON of the CALUMET COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT opened Property Tag#8348, a powder hom. After Sgt. TYSON
opened the powder horn, photographs of the powder hom were taken by myself.
At approximately 1902 hours, Sgt. TYSON opened Property Tag #8365, which is an outlet cover
that was previously located behind the bed in the south bedroom.
At approximately 1908 hours, a stain located at the corner of the outlet plate was photographed
by myself. After the stain at the corner of the outlet plate was photographed, Sgt. TYSON took a
swab of the stain and also a control swab next to the stain.
At approximately 1914 hours, I photographed a stain in the grooved area of the outlet plate
cover. After a photograph was taken of the grooved area with the stain, Sgt. TYSON then did a
swab of the grooved area where the stain was located and also a control swab of the srooved
area.
At approximately 1917 hours, I photographed a red stain located to the right of the center of the
outlet plate. After the stain was photographed, Sgt. TYSON took a swab of the stain and also a
control swab of the area to the right of the center of the outlet plate.
At approximately 1922hours, I photographed an unknown stain at the top of the corner of the
outlet hole. After the photograph was taken, Sgt. TYSON then took a swab of the unknown stain
and also a control swab near the area where the unknown stain was located.
At approximately 1927 hours, a photograph was taken of a stain on the side of the outlet cover.
After I photographed the stain, Sgt. TYSON took a swab of the unknown stain on the side of the
outlet cover and also a control swab.
After the swabs were obtained, the outlet cover was then repackaged.
At approximately 1933 hours, I opened Item #8356, which was a light switch cover.
At approximately 1940 hours, I took a swab next to the opening for the light switch.
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At approximately 1943 hours, a control swab was taken for the stain by the light switch opening.
At approximately 1944 hours, a second stain on the side of the switch cover was located. I took
a swab of the dark stain on the side of the switch cover.
At approximately 1946 hours, I took the control swab of the side of the switch cover. After the
swabs were collected, the light switch cover was repackaged.
At 1952 hours, I opened Item #8346, the Uniden cordless phone and charger.
At 1956 hours, I took a Presumptive Test off of the 0 button on the telephone.
At 2003 hours, a control swab was taken of the 0 button on the telephone.
At 2013 hours, a stain on the charging cord was located. The stain was located approximately
l'4'/2" from the plug in.
At approximately 2014 hours, I took a swab of the unknown stain on the charging cord.
At approximately 2018 hours, a control swab was taken from the charger cord.
4t2023 houts, Sgt. TYSON opened Item #8357, a ceramic lion. The ceramic lion was looked
over and was repackaged at 2036 hours until more Presumptive Tests were obtained.
At approximately 2Il2hours, Item #8628, part of a yardstick with a stain, was opened by Sgt.
TYSON. A red stain located on the 32 /2" mark was photographed at2l16 hours. Sgt. TYSON
then took a swab of the red stain and also a control swab of the yardstick. The part of the
yardstick was then repackaged.
At2124 hours, Sgt. TYSON opened Item #8351, which were brown shells on a string. Both Sgt.
TYSON and myself looked at the item and repackaged the item at2126 hours.
At212l hours, Sgt. TYSON opened Item #8345, the clock radio.
At approximately 2139 hours, I located a possible hair on the bottom of the clock under the tag
40514575. The possible hair was photographed and then collected.
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At approximately 2143 hours, a possible hair was located on the open panel of the clock radio. I
photographed the possible hair fiber and then collected it.
At2146 hours, I located a possible hair at the bottom on the clock by the Caution to Reduce
label. I photographed the possible hair and then collected the possible hair.
At 2152 hours, I located a possible hair by the Caution Risk of Shock sticker located at the
bottom of the clock. After the possible hair was photographed, I collected the possible hair at
2153 hours.
At220l hours, I located a possible hair at the bottom of the clock by the sticker Model 00710. I
photographed the possible hair and the hair was collected.
At approximately 2205 hours, a possible hair was located at the bottom of the clock by the
rubber pad on the right side. The possible hair was photographed and then collected.
At approximately 2213 hours, a possible hair fiber was located at the bottom right of the clock. I
photographed the possible hair and then collected the possible hair.
At2220 hours, I located hair/fibers on the bottom of the clock above the UL label. The
hairs/fibers were photographed and then collected.
At approximately 2233 hours, a possible hair was located at the bottom of the clock above the
left rubber pad. The possible hair was photographed and then collected.
At approximately 2244hours, I photographed a stain at the bottom portion of the speaker of the
clock radio.
At approximately 2244hours, I took a control swab by the bottom portion of the speaker.
At approximately 2245 hours, I photographed a stain at the bottom of the clock radio.
4t2246 hours, I took a swab of the stain that was located at the bottom of the radio.
At approximately 2250 hours, I took a control swab of the stain located at the bottom of the
radio.
After the clock radio was processed, I repackaged the clock radio and placed it into secure
storase.
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At approximately 1656 hours, I obtained a second DNA swab of the necklace. Before each swab
was collected from the necklace, a photograph of the location where the swab would be taken
was taken. After the second DNA swab of the gold necklace was taken, the gold necklace was
then repackaged by myself.
At 1700 hours, Property Tag#8347, a brown gun rack, was opened by myself. After the gun
rack was opened, we took an ultraviolet light to see if any stains would be visible.
At approximately 1716 hours, I conducted a Presumptive Test on the back of the gun rack. The
Presumptive Test result was negative for the stain.
At approximately 1720 hours, I photographed a stain on the front of the gun rack. I took a
Presumptive Test of the stain on the front of the gun rack and the test result was negative. After
the second Presumptive Test was negative, I repackaged the brown gun rack.
At approximately 1735 hours, Property Tag #8355, a nightstand was opened by Sgt. TYSON.
At approximately 1831 hours, I collected a swab of the stain that was located on the top of the
nightstand.
At 1834 hours, I took a control swab for the stain on top of the nightstand.
At approximately 1836 hours, I photographed a second stain located on the top of the nightstand.
At approximately 1837 hours, I collected a swab of the second stain on top of the nightstand.
At approximately 1840 hours, I collected a control swab of the top of the nightstand for the
second stain.
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At approximately 1856 hours, I photographed the hair or fiber. At approximately 1856 hours,
the hair or fiber was collected by Sgt. TYSON.
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These items were taken via flatbed by CHARLES AVERY. CHARLES signed to take custody
of both items.
Item #8361, a headboard from the south bedroom was taken out of secure storage by myself,
which then was photographed in my presence by Deputy RICK RIEMER. The headboard was
then signed over to Sgt. TYSON.
At approximately 1630 hours, Sgt. TYSON and I took Item#8344, a mattress that was originally
located in the south bedroom out of secure storage. Both Sgt. TYSON and I checked the
mattress for any red in color stains on the mattress. The mattress was also checked with
ultraviolet light for any stains on the mattress. Presumptive stains were collected and tested. A11
presumptives on the mattress were negative.
After the presumptives were conducted, the mattress was then repackaged and placed back into
secure storage by Sgt. TYSON and myself.
At approximately 1925 hours, Sgt. TYSON and I went to the storage units located at Ann and
Frontier Streets. We went to Storage Unit 7 where the victim, TERESA HALBACH's, RAV4
was located. At approximately 1935 hours, I photographed the interior passenger door handle of
the Toyota RAV4 with plate number SWH-582.
At approximately 1935 hours, I also photographed the interior door handle of the driver's side
door.
After I photographed both the passenger and the driver's interior door handles, I took a DNA
swab of the interior door handle on the driver's side.
At approximately 1940 hours, I photographed the exterior passenger door handle of the Toyota
RAV4.
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At approximately 1940 hours, I photographed the exterior door handle on the driver's side of the
RAV4. After the door handle was photographed, I took a DNA swab of the driver's side door
handle of the exterior of the Toyota.
At approximately 1941 hours, I took a photograph of the hood latch of the Toyota RAV4.
At approximately 1945 hours, I took a photograph of the left battery cable of the Toyota RAV4.
At approximately 1947 hours, I took a photograph of the right side battery cable of the Toyota
RAV4.
After I photographed the right and left battery cable and hood latch, and Sgt. TYSON took DNA
swabs of these locations, the storage unit containing the Toyota RAV4 was secured.
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At approximately 1025 hours, Deputy RIEMER and I processed Property Tag #8686. Both
Deputy RIEMER and I sifted through all debris matter in the five gallon pail. Possible bone
fragments were taken out of the debris and placed into a cardboard pill box. After the five gallon
pail with Property Tag #8686 was completed, the pill box was sealed by Deputy RIEMER.
At 1157 hours, Deputy RIEMER and I processed Property Tag #7958, a five gallon pail of
debris. When the five gallon pail was finished being sifted through, the contentr *"..
placed
back into the five gallon pail and then resealed.
At approximately 1230 hours, Deputy RIEMER and I processed Property Tag #8650, debris pile
matter in a five gallon pail. All possible bone fragments were taken out of the debris pile and
placed into a cardboard pill box. When the five gallon pail was done being sifted through, the
possible bones were packaged in the cardboard pill box by Deputy RIEMER. The sifted material
was placed back into the five gallon pail where it was then secured.
Once all the pails were sifted through, Deputy RIEMER released the following items back to me:
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Deputy RIEMER also turned custody of the following items over to me:
o Property Tag #7409, two glass slides originating from Item #8658
o Property Tag #7410, a bobby pin from Item #8658
o Property Tag#7411, possible bone fragments from Item #8658
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o Property Tag#7412, possible bone fragments located in the five gallon pail, Item #8484
o Property Tag #7413, nonhuman bone fragments from Item #g653
o Property Tag #7414, bone fragments from Item #8653
o Property Tag#7415, suspected nonhuman bones from Item #9652
o Property Tag #7416, suspected human bone fragments from rtem#9652
o Property Tag#74I7, red coagulated substance that is charred from Item #8663
o Property Tag#7478, suspected nonhuman bone fragments from Property Tag#8687
o Property Tag#7419, suspected human bone fragments from Property Tag#8687
o Property Tag#7420, suspected charred items resembling bone from Item #8654
o Property Tag #7421, unidentified suspected bone from Item #8661
o Property Tag #1422, suspected nonhuman bone fragments from Item#8662
o Property Tag#7423, nonhuman bone fragments from Item #8657
o Property Tag#7424, bone fragments from Item #8657
r PropertyTag#7425, fibers from sifting of Item #8480
o Property Tag#7426, bone fragments from Item #8698
o Property Tag #7427, bone fragments from Item #8480
o Property Tag #7428, bone fragments from Item #8681
o Property Tag #7429, bone fragments from ltem#7963
o Property Tag #7430, bone fragments from Item #8686
o Property Tag#7437, bone fragments from Item #8659
o Property Tag #7432, bone fragments from Item #8656
o Property Tag #7433, bone fragments from Item #8655
o Property Tag #7434, bone fragments from Item #8650
o Property Tag#7435, bone fragments from Item #8655
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On 04112106 at approximately 1430 hours, Item #8358, an empty bleach bottle, was opened by
Sgt. BILL TYSON of the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF,S DEPARTMENT. Sst. TYSON
and I visually checked the bottle.
At approximately 1456 hours, I did a Presumptive Test on a red in color stain on the bleach
bottle. The test results of the Presumptive Test were negative.
At approximately 1508 hours, I signed Property Tag#8357, a ceramic lion, over to Sgt. TYSON.
After Sgt. TYSON was finished doing Presumptive Tests on the ceramic lion, the lion was then
signed back over to me and placed into secure evidence.
At approximately 1658 hours, both Sgt. TYSON and I opened Property Tag#8362, a footboard
to the bed from the south bedroom.
At approximately 1821 hours, Sgt. TYSON and I opened Property Tag#8379, a brown piece of
paneling marked #1. The brown piece of paneling was looked at by both Sgt. TYSON and
myself. After the brown piece of paneling marked #1 was looked at, the paneling was
repackaged by Sgt. TYSON and myself. The brown piece of paneling was then placed back into
secure storage by Sgt. TYSON and myself.
At approximately 1900 hours, I opened Property Tag #8363, which was a right side rail board to
the bed that was located in the south bedroom.
At approximately 1915 hours, I collected a possible hair at the very end of the board where the
head would rest.
At approximately 1920 hours, I collected a possible hair at 39" from the end of the board.
At approximately 1927 hours, I photographed and collected a possible hair located 19 3/o" from
the end. The hair possibly could be an eyelash of some sort.
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After the possible hairs were collected and packaged by myself, the right side rail board was then
repackaged.
At approximately 1938 hours, Property Tag#8364, the left side rail board was opened by Sgt.
TYSON and myself.
At approximately 1944 hours, I photographed four black hair fibers approximat ely 2'2" through
2'4" away from the edge of the bed rail.
At approximately 1945 hours, I collected a possible eyelash 79 1/o" from the end of the rail board.
At approximately 1950 hours, I collected the four black hair fibers approximat ely 2'2" through
2'4" away from the edge of the rail board.
At approximately 2012 hours, I collected two black hairs approximately 42" fromthe edge of the
rail board.
At approximately 2015 hours, I collected a possible hair fiber located 45 318" from the edse of
the rail board.
After the possible hairs were collected, the left side rail board was repackaged.
At approximately 2025 hours, Sgt. TYSON and I opened Property Tag #83 81, which is a brown
piece of paneling labeled #3. Both Sgt. TYSON and I looked at the brown piece of paneling.
At approximately 2032 hours, I photographed then did a Presumptive Test for possible blood of
some stain drips on the brown piece of paneling. The Presumptive Test for the stain drips was
negative. After all Presumptive Tests were finished on the brown paneling labeled #3, it was
repackaged and then placed into secure evidence.
At approximately 2049 hours, Sgt. TYSON and I opened Property Tag #8380, a brown piece of
paneling labeled #2. Both Sgt. TYSON and I looked at the paneling.
At approximately 2102 hours, I photographed a stain approximately 5' from the bottom of the
paneling. A Presumptive Test for blood was performed on the stain by myself. The test result
was negative. After all Presumptive Tests were concluded on the brown piece of paneling
labeled #2, the brown piece of paneling was repackaged and then placed back into secure
evidence by Sgt. TYSON and myself.
At approximately 2117 hours, Property Tag#8376, which was a brown molding trim labeled #1,
was opened by Sgt. TYSON.
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TYPE OF ACTIVITY: Package Items to be Sent to the Dane County Coroneros Office
The 23 items were placed in a box and sent certified mail to the DANE COLINTY CORONER'S
OFFICE.
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At approximately 1700 hours, on the boat gas tank container, I observeda stain on the container.
I photographed the stain and conducted a Presumptive Test for blood on the stain. The
Presumptive Test result was negative.
At 1113 hours, I located a stain on the six gallon Chilton gas can. The stain was photographed
and a Presumptive Test for blood was conducted on the stain. The test result of the Presumptive
Test was negative.
At approximately 1721 hours, I observed a stain on the five gallon Model p500 gas can. I
photographed the stain and then a Presumptive Test for possible blood was conducted on the
stain. The result of the test was negative.
At approximately 1724 hours, a second Presumptive Test was conducted. The test result on the
second test was negative.
At approximately 1727 hours, a third Presumptive Test was conducted on the five gallon Model
P500 gas can. The third Presumptive Test result was also negative.
Next, I looked at the five gallon Blitz gas can. I photographed a stain and at approximately 1737
hours, a Presumptive Test of the stain for possible blood was conducted. The iesult of the
Presumptive Test was negative.
At approximately 1743 hours, the one gallon Model P10 gas can was examined. There were no
stains that were found on the gas can to do a Presumptive Test on.
At approximately 1748 hours, the one gallon AB41 gas can was examined by Sgt. TySON and
myself. The examination of the gas can proved there were no visible stains to do presumptive
Tests on.
After these gas cans were repackaged, Sgt. TYSON and myself brought the gas cans back to
secure storage.
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At approximately 1753 hours, I opened Property Tag #8389, a True Test paint thinner metal can.
At approximately 1756 hours, a stain was photographed and I conducted a Presumptive Test on
the stain for possible blood. The test result of the Presumptive Test of the stain was negative.
At approximately 1759 hours, I conducted a second Presumptive Test on the True Test paint
thinner can. The second test also gave a negative result.
The True Test paint thinner can was then repackaged and again placed into secure storage.
At approximately 2019 hours, both Sgt. TYSON and I unrolled Property Tag#8367, which is a
tan colored carpet. The carpet was photographed and the carpet sprayed with luminol. There
was no consistent pattern of any illumination once the luminol was sprayed on the carpet.
After viewing no consistent pattern with the carpet, the carpet was then rolled back up and then
replaced back into secure storage.
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The custody of the three items was signed over to Inv. WIEGERT.
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TYPE OF ACTIVITY: Release of Evidence toInv. Dedering and Return of Items from
Inv. Dedering and Inv. Wiegert
When Inv. DEDERING was finished with Property Tag#8755, the letter found at the GREEN
BAY POST OFFICE, and Property Tag#8756, the envelope the letter was in, he retumed the
items to a secure locker in the evidence room. The custody of the two items was then sisned
over to myself.
Property Tag #8483, the Search Logs, Property Tag#9270, Entry/Exit Log for the residence on
03101106, and Property Tag #9271, Entry/Exit Log for residence on03102106, were returned by
Inv. WIEGERT and placed into the secure lockers. Custody of the three items was signed over
to myself.
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TYPE OF ACTIVITY: Looking at Evidence Items with Inv. Wiegert and Special
Agent Fassbender
After Inv. WIEGERT and Special Agent FASSBENDER looked at the three knives as possibly
being a weapon used in the case, the three knives were repackaged and then placed back where
the three knives were stored by myself.
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o Property Tag #8689, a Winchester stainless steel knife with black sheath
o Property Tag #8690, a Normark black folding knife
o Property Tag#8440, a folding knife with broken tip
After each of the three items were examined, the items were repackaged by myself. Once the
three items were all examined and repackaged, the three items were then placed back into secure
storage by myself.
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All 251 items were placed behind the secure cage and all items that contained possible DNA
evidence were separated behind the cage so no contamination could occur.
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o Property Tag #1609, Marlin Model 60 .22 caliber semi-automatic rifle with Serial No.
042291t3
o Property Tag #647, Glenfield Model 60 .22 caliber rifle with Serial No. 27323959
o Property Tag#648, Conn Valley Arms Hawken .50 caliber black powder rifle, Serial No.
8637305s
o Property Tag #8607, bullet fragment
o Property Tag #8313, RAV4 license plate with 06 sticker
o Property Tag #8305, RAV4 license plate
o Property Tag#8436, .22 callber bullets taken from STEVEN AVERY's bedroom
o Property Tag#8004, pair of leg irons and pair of handcuffs
o Property Tag #8619, blue AIR NATIONAL GUARD lanyard
o Property Tag #8347, brown gun rack
o Property Tag #9225, PBA box
o Property Tag #8274, Faded Glory original jeans, size 38 x 32
o Property Tag #8266, silver handcuffs
o Property Tag#8267, silver handcuffs
o Property Tag #8268, pink fur handcuffs
o Property Tag #8269, pink fur handcuffs
All 16 items were photographed, both with and without the evidence tag.
After each item was photographed, the items were repackaged. When all photographs were
finished, I placed the items back into secure storage. Each time a new piece of evidence was
handled, a new pair of gloves was used.
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I assisted the attorneys by opening the four passenger doors and a rear cargo door when asked.
After the attorneys were finished examining the RAV4 vehicle, the RAV4 vehicle was placed
back into secure evidence by SCOTT'S TOWING and I then locked the storase unit.
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At approximately 2005 hours, I unrolled Property Tag#8366, the carpet that was located in the
south bedroom. Both Sgt. TYSON and I examined the carpet.
At approximately 2054 hours, I photographed a stain on the back of the carpet. I swabbed the
stain using a sterile swab and also distilled water. The swab was then placed into a presumptive
Test where a blood test was conducted. The Presumptive Test results were negative.
At approximately 2058 hours, the carpet was then rolled back up by Sgt. TYSON and I and
secured into long-term storage.
At approximately 2107 hours, I opened Property Tag#8436, which contained three knives. I
examined all three knives.
On a black and silver folding knife, I photographed a stain located in the open part of the handle.
I conducted a Presumptive Test on the stain at approximately 2132 hours. The results of the
Presumptive Test were negative for blood.
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At approximately 0950 hours, I opened Property Tag #8689, a knife. I examined the knife and
after my examination was completed and no Presumptive Tests were done to the knife, the knife
was then placed back into the bag and repackaged by myself.
At approximately 0954 hours, I opened Property Tag #8690, a knife. I examined the knife and
viewed a stain on the blade of the knife by the word stainless steel. I photographed the stain and
conducted a Presumptive Test for blood on the stain. The Presumptive Test results were
negative.
At approximately 1002 hours, I viewed a stain on the blade by the top of the knife. I took a
photograph of the stain and then conducted a Presumptive Test on the stain. The Presumptive
Test showed the test was negative for blood. The knife was then placed back into the paper bag
and I then repackaged the knife.
At approximately 1006 hours, I opened Property Tag#8440, a knife. I examined the knife and
photographed a stain on the handle of the knife.
At approximately 1009 hours, I did a Presumptive Test on the stain located on the handle. The
blood test results were negative.
After the Presumptive Test was conducted, the knife was then placed back into its package and I
resecured the bag with evidence tape. After all three items were finished, I placed them back
into secure storage.
At approximately 103 t hours, Sgt. TYSON and I took Item #83 86, a mattress, out of secure
storage. The mattress was then opened. Both Sgt. TYSON and I examined the mattress. A large
stain was in the middle of the mattress.
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At approximately 1039 hours, I photographed the area of the stain where the first presumptive
Test would be conducted. After the stain was photographed, I conducted the first presumptive
Test on the area. The test result for the blood test was negative.
At approximately 1041 hours, I conducted a second Presumptive Test on the top part of the stain
on the opposite side of where the Sealy tag was. The stain location was photogruptr"O and then
a
Presumptive Test was conducted. The Presumptive Test results were negative.
At approximately 1047 hours, in the approximate middle of the stain, I photographed the area
and then performed a Presumptive Test on the area that was photographed. The test results for
the area came back negative for blood. The mattress was then flipped orr", and I photographed
two areas of the stain where Presumptive Tests would be conducted.
At approximately 1056 hours, the first Presumptive Test was conducted on the stain located on
the opposite side of the mattress where the Sealy tag was. The test results for the first
Presumptive Test showed a negative result.
At approximately 1100 hours, a second Presumptive Test was conducted on the stain. The result
of the Presumptive Test was negative.
The mattress was then repackaged and placed back into secure evidence.
At approximately 1232hours, I opened Property Tag #8606, two paint thinner bottles. The first
paint thinner bottle that I examined had the words clean strip on it. On the side just above the
words paint thinner, a spot was photographed and I did a Presumptive Test on the spot at
approximately 1240 hours. The test result for the Presumptive Test was negative.
I examined the second paint thinner container and took a photograph of a stain on the lower
comer of one side of the paint thinner can.
At approximately 1248 hours, I did a Presumptive Test on the spot and the result was negative.
At approximately 1249 hours, I viewed and photographed a stain on the bottom outer ridge of the
paint thinner can. I did a Presumptive Test for blood on the stain. The result for the prezumptive
Test for blood was negative.
At approximately 1250 hours, I photographed a stain at the top of the can by the handle. I
performed a Presumptive Test for blood. The test result for the Presumptive Test was negative.
I went back to the first paint thinner can and photographed a spot on the side of the paint thinner
can.
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At approximately 1305 hours, I performed a Presumptive Test for blood on the paint thinner can.
At approximately 1308 hours, I photographed a stain on the bottom outer ridge of the paint
thinner can. I performed a Presumptive Test for blood on the spot that I photographed. The
Presumptive Test result was negative.
Both paint thinner cans were repackaged and placed back into secure storage.
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At approximately 2200 hours, I photographed the following items for Inv. DEDERING:
The blue jacket with FRIAR TUCK'S on it was photographed both with and without the
evidence tag. The redlwhite tennis shoes, the one red/white Starter tennis shoe and the other
red/white unknown brand of tennis shoe was photographed both with and without the tag and
three sides of the shoes were photographed.
After the four items were photographed, they were repackaged by myself and I then put them in
secure storage. A new pair of gloves was used for each item.
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At approximately 0806 hours, I took Property Tag #8119, Property Tag #8720, property Tag
#812I, Property Tag#8122 and Property Tag#8I24, all clothing rivets, out of secure srorage.
Each item was opened separately and photographed, both with and without the propeny mg
number. After each item was photographed, I then repackaged the item before moving onto the
next item.
After all five clothing rivets were photographed, I placed them back into secure storase.
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After the items were photographed, I repackaged the items and placed them back into secure
storage.
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I placed the keys for the locks of the Toyota RAV4 into envelopes and placed the envelopes in
secure storage.
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I took all five items from their spot in secure storage to a table where each item was placed
separately on white freezer paper. Each item was individually photographed by Deputy
RIEMER. After each item was individually photographed, they were placed into their package
and then resecured with evidence tape before the next item was photographed.
Once all five clothing rivets were photographed, they were placed back into their storage area in
secure storage. At all times, I was present and handled the evidence.
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After the discussion was complete, we were provided a list of evidentiary items that were in the
CALUMET couNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT evidence room that they did wish to have
Deputy HAWKINS and myself process.
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On 03128106, Deputy HAWKINS and myself (Sgt. BILL TYSON) began the processing
of
evidence. The sheriff s department training room was used for the anilyzing and processing
of
any evidence. Freezer paper was applied to two tables that had been pushedlogether and
a[
evidence was laid on top of the freezer paper. The freezer paper *ur .hung.a wittr each
new
piece of evidence analyzed. MacPhails Reagent Hemident Tests were w"d fo. any swab
that
was taken for the presumptive identification of blood. Sterile cotton swabs and distilled water
were used for any stain that was collected. Sterile cotton swabs and distilled water were also
used for the collection of any DNA swabs. The procedure used for the collecting stains onto
swabs was to drop three drops of distilled water onto the end of the cotton applicator. The
cotton
applicator was then applied to the dried stain. The sterile cotton swabs *... obtuined from
CALUMET MEDICAL CENTER and the MEDLINE COMPANY. The procedure used for
collecting DNA swabs was dropping three drops of distilled water onto a sterile cotton swab.
The surface was then swabbed and all swabs were put into individual swab boxes.
On Tuesday,03128106, at approximately 2004 hours, Deputy HAWKINS and myself did remove
the headboard, Item Tag#8361, from the evidence room and did carry that piece of evidence to
the training room for analyzation The headboard was unwrapped byDepuiy HAWKINS and
myself at approximately 2004 hours. I did measure the headboard and documented the width of
5'2" and the height of 4'7". Deputy HAWKINS did photo the headboard.
4t2045 hours, photos of a possible stain were obtained by Deputy HAWKINS. I did swab a
reddish, brownish colored stain at 2046 hours. That stain was located approximately 10 %,, from
the bottom of the left post of the headboard. A control swab to that stain was obtain ed at 2047
hours.
At 2103 hours, I did change gloves. Deputy HAWKINS photographed more reddish, brown
colored stains on the side of the left post to the headboard.
A second stain was swabbed by myself at 2109 hours. A control swab of the second stain was
obtained at2II1 hours. That stain was located approximately 1'8 %" fromthe bottom of the
post and approximately Yz" from the front of the post.
At 211t hours, I did change gloves and at approximately 2118 hours, did a third swab stain from
the side of the left post of the headboard. A control swab was taken at2l2l hours.
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At2124 hours, a Presumptive Test was done on the stain towards the bottom of the left post. I
did the Presumptive Test and did obtain a negative result for blood.
Deputy HAWKINS collected possible hair fibers from the headboard. See Deputy HAWKINS,
report in regards to that information. The headboard was then placed back into the secure
evidence room for fuither analyzation that would be done on Wednes dav.03129106.
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I did place a telephone call to Inv. WIEGERT who was at a conference in the City of Green Bay.
I informed Inv. WIEGERT of our findings and asked him if he wished for us to do Presumptive
Tests and I informed him that I feared if we did Presumptive Tests, it could possibly destroy a
pattern if the stains were indeed that of blood. Inv. WIEGERT informed me we should place the
headboard back into the secure evidence room so the headboard could be analyzed by himself
and Special Agent FASSBENDER on Monday, 04103106. The headboard was placed back into
the secure evidence room by Deputy HAWKINS and myself.
The powder hom, Property Tag#8348, was removed from the secure evidence room and taken to
the training room for analyzation At 1852 hours, the powder hom was unpackaged by myself.
Deputy HAWKINS did photograph the powder horn and the powder horn was analyzed and after
analyzation, it was determined the powder hom was of no evidentiary value. The powder horn
was retumed to the secure evidence room.
The outlet cover, Property Tag #8365, was removed from the secure evidence room and taken to
the training room for analyzal:on. At 1902 hours, I unpackaged the outlet cover at which time
Deputy HAWKINS did photograph the outlet cover.
At 1909 hours, I did collect a swab of a portion of a stain that was located in the corner of the
outlet cover. Deputy HAWKINS had photographed the stain prior to me collecting a sample of
the stain. At 1913 hours, I did a control swab in the vicinity of that stain.
At I9l4 hours, I collected another swab of a stain that was located in the grooved area of the
outlet cover. At 1916 hours, a control swab was obtained in the area next to the srooved area of
the outlet cover that contained the stain.
At l9l7 hours, I did collect a portion of a red colored stain that was located to the right of the
center of the outlet cover. A control swab was done at 1919 hours in the vicinity to the right of
the center of the outlet cover.
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1,l11922 hours, I did swab an unknown stain, which was located in the top corner of the outlet
cover. At 1925 hours, a control swab was done near the unknown stain, which was located at the
top comer of the outlet cover.
At 1921 hours, I did swab an unknown stain, which was located on the side of the outlet cover.
At 1929 hours, a control swab was done on the side of the outlet cover.
The outlet cover was then placed back in the secure evidence room.
At 1933 hours, I did change gloves and Item #8356, identified as a light switch cover, was
removed from the evidence room and taken to the training room for analyzatton At 1933 hours,
I did unpackage Item #8356 for analyzation. Deputy HAWKINS did photogaph the light switch
cover. Deputy HAWKINS did swab two stains. See Deputy HAWKINS' report for information
in regards to those stains.
Property Tag #8356 was placed back into the secure evidence room after analyzalion done by
Deputy HAWKINS.
At 1952 hours, Deputy HAWKINS did unpackage the Uniden phone charger/phone, Property
Tag#8346.
At 1956 hours, Deputy HAWKINS did a Presumptive Test on a possible stain on the number 0
on the Uniden phone. The result of the Presumptive Test was inconclusive and at 2000 hours,
Deputy HAWKINS did swab the stain. Deputy HAWKINS processed the rest of the telephone.
See Deputy HAWKINS' report for further information on that piece of evidence.
After the Uniden phone and charger were placed back into the secure evidence room, the ceramic
lion, Property Tag #8357, was taken to the training room for analyzation I did unpackage the
ceramic lion at approximately 2023 hours. Upon analyzingthe ceramic lion, I could see several
dark spots on the ceramic lion. Deputy HAWKINS and myself realized we ran out of
Presumptive Tests and were unable to locate any more Presumptive Tests. The ceramic lion was
then placed back into the secure evidence room awaiting more Presumptive Tests for
analyzatron.
At approximately 2112 hours, the partial yardstick, Property Tag#8628, was removed from the
evidence room and taken to the training room for analyzation I did unpackage that item.
Deputy HAWKINS photographed the partial yardstick. Deputy HAWKINS did a swab on an
unknown stain, which was located on the number 32 y2" on the partial yardstick. Deputy
HAWKINS also did a control swab in that vicinity aI2120 hours. The partial yardstick was then
returned to the secure evidence room.
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The brown shells on a string, Item #8351, was removed from the evidence room and taken to the
training room for analyzation. At2124 hours, I did unpackage that item. That item was
analyzed and found to have no evidentiary value. The item was repackaged by myself and
retumed to the evidence room at 2126hours.
The clock radio, Item #8345, was removed from the evidence room and taken to the training
room for analyzation I did unpackage that item at2127 hours. Deputy HAWKINS did the
analyzation of that evidence. See Deputy HAWKINS' report for further information.
The black colored hanger, Property Tag#8349, was unpackaged by myself at approximately
2148 hours. I did analyze the hanger with natural light as well as blue light and found it to have
no evidentiary value. The black hanger was repackaged and placed back on the cart, which
contained other pieces of evidence that needed to be analyzed.
At approximately 2154 hours, I did unpackage the heat vent, Property Tag #8374. Upon
analyzingthe heat vent, I did locate two dark colored stains on the heat vent. I did swab one of
the stains, which was located near the top of the heat vent. That swab was collected at220l
hours. At2203 hours, the control swab for the stain at the top of the heat vent was collected.
At 2216 hours, I did collect a portion of a second stain on the heat vent, which was located
underneath the damper of the vent. At 2218 hours, a control swab was obtained from the area of
the stain under the damper. It shall be noted the heat vent was photographed by myself and the
stains were also photographed by myself prior to collection of the stains. The heat vent was then
repackaged and placed back onto the cart.
At approximately 2230 hours, I did unpackage the green colored hula skirt, Property Tag #8353.
Upon analyzingthe hula skirt, I did look at the hula skirt with natural light and also blue light.
Under blue light conditions, I could see some small stains on the flowers of the hula skirt. I did
photograph the hula skirt, as well as the stains that were located.
At approximately 2242hours, I did collect a portion of a stain on the flower #2 on the hula skirt.
At 2245 hours, a control sample was taken off of flower #2 near the stain.
At 2249 hours, I did collect a portion of a stain off of flow er #3. At 2251 hours, a control swab
was done on flower #3 in the vicinity of the stain. The hula skirt was then placed back onto the
evidence cart. A11 evidence was then retumed to the secure evidence room by Deputy
HAWKINS and myself.
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On Sunday,04102106, Deputy HAWKINS and I (Sgt. BILL TYSON) returned to the evidence
room to continue with the processing of evidence.
At approximately 1645 hours, the necklace, Property Tag #8352, was removed from the evidence
room and taken to the training room for analyzation Deputy HAWKINS did unpackage the
necklace, at which time he did collect two DNA swabs of the necklace. See Deputy HAWKINS'
report for that information.
The gun rack, Property Tag #8341, was taken from the evidence room and brought to the training
room for analyzation At 1700 hours, Deputy HAWKINS did unpackage the item. Deputy
HAWKINS examined and processed the gun rack. See Deputy HAWKINS' report for
information pertaining to that piece of evidence.
The nightstand, Property Tag #8355, was removed from the evidence room and taken to the
training room for utalyzation At 1735 hours, I did unpackage the nightstand. Deputy
HAWKINS photographed the nightstand and did collect some stains from the nightstand. See
Deputy HAWKINS' report for further information.
At 1856 hours, I did collect a hair or a fiber from the rear right leg of the nightstand. The hair or
fiber was photographed by Deputy HAWKINS.
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On Monday.04103106, I (Sgt. BILL TYSON) did meet with Sheriff JERRY PAGEL, Inv.
MARK WIEGERT, Inv. JOHN DEDERING, and Special Agent TOM FASSBENDER at the
sheriff s department. The decision was made for Deputy HAWKINS and myself to remove the
headboard, Property Tag #8361, from the evidence room so that piece ofevidence could be
analyzed by them.
Deputy HAWKINS and myself did remove the headboard from the evidence room and did carry
the headboard to the training room and did lay the headboard on freezer paper on top of the
tables. They did look at the headboard and the decision was made for Deputy RIEMER to
photograph the stains on the back of the headboard. Deputy RIEMER did the photography of the
stains. The decision was made by Special Agent FASSBENDER and Inv. WIEGERT to not do
Presumptive Tests on those stains and they did wish for us to package the headboard and send
the headboard to the crime lab in Madison for analysis. It shall be noted that when we analyzed
the headboard, we could not see any striations around the spindles of the headboard consistent
with that of having handcuffs or leg irons secured to the spindles of the headboard.
The headboard was ultimately secured in a cardboard box and turned over to Inv. WIEGERT for
transportation to the WI STATE CRIME LAB. Evidence sheets were signed indicating such
transaction.
At approximately 1630 hours, the mattress from STEVEN AVERY's bed, Property Tag#8344,
was removed from the evidence room and taken to the training room for analyzation Deputy
HAWKINS and myself did look at the mattress and did observe numerous stains on the mattress.
Deputy HAWKINS did numerous Presumptive Tests on those stains, all of which tumed up
negative for the presence of blood. The mattress was then returned to the evidence room.
I did place a telephone call to Inv. WIEGERT and did inform him of our findings.
Deputy HAWKINS and I went to the storage shed where TERESA HALBACH's vehicle was
being stored. Deputy HAWKINS did unlock the storage shed. Inv. WIEGERT and Special
Agent FASSBENDER had informed us they wished for us to do DNA swabs on the interior and
exterior of the door handles of TERESA HALBACH's vehicle. They also requested DNA swabs
done on the hood latch as well as the battery cables for the vehicle. TERESA's vehicle would be
identified as Property Tag#8027.
At 1930 hours, I did a DNA swab on the interior passenger door handle.
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At 1933 hours, I did a DNA swab on the exterior passenger door handle.
At 1937 hours, I did a DNA swab on the hood latch to the hood of the vehicle.
At 1943 hours, a DNA swab was done on the right battery cable.
Deputy HAWKINS also did DNA swabs on the interior and exterior handles of the driver's door.
After the DNA swabs had been collected, the door to the storage locker was secured. Deputy
HAWKINS and I transported the swabs that were collected to the sheriff s department and the
swabs were secured in the CALUMET COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT evidence room.
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Deputy HAWKINS and myself (Sgt. BILL TYSON) met once again on Wednesday , 04112106,Io
continue with the processing of evidence.
At 1430 houts, the empty bleach bottle, Property Tag #8358, was taken from the evidence room
and taken to the training room for analyzation Upon looking at the bleach bottle, we did
observe a stain at the bottom of the bleach bottle. Deputy HAWKINS did a Presumptive Test,
which resulted in negative results for blood. The bleach bottle was then returned to the evidence
room.
At 1509 hours, the ceramic lion, Property Tag #8357, was taken to the training room for
analyzation More Presumptive Tests had been obtained so the processing of this piece of
evidence could be completed. Deputy HAWKINS did have to leave the room to make phone
calls; therefore, the ceramic lion was signed off on the evidence sheet indicating that I had sole
custody of the ceramic lion for a period of time. I did perform three Presumptive Tests on the
ceramic lion all of which indicated negative results for blood.
At 1658 hours, the footboard to STEVEN AVERY's bed, Property Tag#8362, was taken to the
training room for analyzation Deputy HAWKINS did process this piece of evidence. See
Deputy HAWKINS' report for further information.
At 1821 hours, the brown paneling labeled #1, Property Tag #8379, was taken to the training
room for analyzatron The paneling was unpackaged by Deputy HAWKINS and myself and
photographed. After looking at the paneling, it was determined that this piece of evidence
contained no evidentiary value and was retumed to the evidence room.
At approximately 1900 hours, the right side rail board to STEVEN AVERY's bed, Property Tag
#8363, was taken to the training room for analysis. Deputy HAWKINS did photograph the rail
board and did process the rail board. See Deputy HAWKINS' report reference the processing of
that item.
At approximately 1938 hours, the left side rail board, Property Tag#8364, was taken from the
evidence room to the training room for analysis. Deputy HAWKINS did photograph the left side
rail board. Deputy HAWKINS collected, what appeared to be, black hairs. See Deputy
HAWKINS' report reference that collection.
At 2010 hours, I did collect, what appeared to be, two black hairs. These hairs were located
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42 from the end of the rail board. When the processing of the rail board was completed, it
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was returned to the evidence room.
At approximately 2025 hours, Deputy HAWKINS and myself did carry the brown paneling
marked #3, Properly Tag #8381, to the training room for analysis. Three Presumptive Tests were
done on stains that were located on the paneling. Deputy HAWKINS performed two of the
Presumptive Tests and I performed one Presumptive Test. All Presumptive Tests tested negative
for the presence ofblood.
At2049 hours, the brown paneling marked #2,Property Tag #8380, was taken to the processing
room and unpackaged by Deputy HAWKINS and myself. Deputy HAWKINS photographed the
brown paneling marked #2. Three Presumptive Tests were performed on this piece of paneling.
Deputy HAWKINS performed one Presumptive Test, which had negative results, and I
performed two Presumptive Tests on various stains on the paneling, which also had negative
results for blood. The brown paneling marked #2 was then returned to the evidence room.
The brown molding marked #1, Property Tag #8376, was taken to the processing room and
unwrapped by myself. Deputy HAWKINS photographed the brown molding trim. There was a
stain on the brown molding at approximately 18 3/8" from the end of the molding. Deputy
HAWKINS did a Presumptive Test on that stain which tested negative for the presence of blood.
The brown molding was then retumed to the evidence room.
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On Monday,05101106, Deputy HAWKINS and myself (Sgt. BILL TYSON) resumed processing
activities.
At approximately 1634 hours, Property Tag #8606, identified as two paint thinner cans, were
opened by Deputy HAWKINS and inspected for any possible evidence. After examining the
paint thinner cans, it was determined the cans contained no evidentiary value.
Properly Tag#86I1, identified as a boat gas tank, a six gallon Chilton gas can, a five gallon
Model P500 gas can, a Blitz five gallon gas can, a one gallon Model P10 gas can, and a one
gallon no name gas can. Deputy HAWKINS did process the boat gas tank and did a Presumptive
Test on the boat gas tank at 1700 hours, which indicated negative results for blood.
At 1713 hours, Deputy HAWKINS did a Presumptive Test on the six gallon Chilton gas can,
which also had a negative result for blood.
The five gallon Model P500 gas can was processed at approximately l72l hours and a
Presumptive Test on that can indicated the negative result for blood. Two additional
Presumptive Tests were done on that can, which also indicated a negative result for blood. The
second Presumptive Test was done at 1724 hours and the third Presumptive Test was done at
7127 hours.
The Blitz five gallon gas can was analyzed and Deputy HAWKINS did a Presumptive Test at
1737 hours, which indicated a negative result for blood.
The one gallon Model P10 gas can was examined at 1743 hours and found that it contained
nothine unusual.
The one gallon gas can was examined at 1748 hours and also was found to contain nothing
unusual.
Property Tag #8389, identified as a True Test paint thinner metal can, was opened by Deputy
HAWKINS at 1753 hours. Deputy HAWKINS did a Presumptive Test on the True Test paint
thinner can at 1756 hours and the test indicated a negative result for blood. A second
Presumptive Test was completed at 1759 hours and also indicated the negative result for blood.
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At20I9 hours, Property Tag#8367, identified as a tan colored piece of carpeting from the
hallway of STEVEN AVERY's residence, was unrolled and analyzed. Photographs were taken
of the carpeting and examined. We did luminol the carpeting, which did show a "starry sky"
effect. There was no pattern indicating any presence of blood and no heavy concentrations on
the carpeting indicating where drops of blood had fallen. The starry sky effect was ruled out as a
false positive for other possible indicators. The tan colored carpeting was then returned to the
evidence room and this information was discussed with Inv. WIEGERT.
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On Friday, 06123106, Deputy HAWKINS and myself (Set. BILL TYSON) continued with the
processing of evidence. Property Tag#8366, identified as the carpeting from STEVEN
AVERY's bedroom, was unrolled by Deputy HAWKINS at 2005 hours. Deputy HAWKINS
and myself did analyze the carpeting. There were numerous hairs on the carpeting; although it
was told to us the crime lab was not interested in us collecting hairs for analysis. Deputy
HAWKINS did do a Presumptive Test on the backside of the carpeting a:2054 hours and the
Presumptive Test indicated a negative result for blood. The carpeting was then returned to the
evidence room.
Property Tag#8436, identified as three pocket knives, was opened by Deputy HAWKINS at
approximately 2107 hours. We did analyze the knives and Deputy HAWKINS did do a
Presumptive Test at 2132 hours on one of the knives that indicated the negative result for blood.
The knives were then retumed to the secure evidence room.
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On Saturday,06124106, Deputy HAWKINS and myself (Sgt. BILL TYSON) met once again to
process the evidence.
At approximately 0950 hours, Deputy HAWKINS opened Property Tag #8689, identified as a
knife. It was determined that item contained no evidentiary value.
At 0956 hours, Deputy HAWKINS did a Presumptive Test on the blade of the knife, which
indicated the negative presence of blood. At 1002 hours, Deputy HAWKINS did a second
Presumptive Test on the blade of the knife, which indicated the negative presence of blood.
At 1006 hours, Property Tag#8440, identified as a knife, was opened by Deputy HAWKINS. At
1009 hours, a Presumptive Test was done on the handle of that knife, which indicated the
negative presence of blood.
At 103 t hours, Property Tag #83 86, identified as a mattress, was opened by Deputy HAWKINS
and myself. The mattress was photographed by Deputy HAWKINS. A total of five Presumptive
Tests were done on the mattress, all indicating the negative result for blood. These Presumptive
Tests were done on both sides of the mattress and were completed at 1 03 t hours, I 041 hours,
1047 hours, 1048 hours and 1056 hours. The mattress was retumed to the secure evidence room.
At 1232 hours, Property Tag #8606, identified as two paint thinner bottles, were opened. Three
Presumptive Tests were done on the paint thinner bottles, all of which tested negative for the
presence of blood. The paint thinner bottles were then retumed to the evidence room.
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on 08/31106,r (Inv. MARK WIEGERT of the CALUMET Co. SHERIFF,S DEpT.) went to the
MANITOWOC CO. JAIL. At approximately 10:20 a.m., I did go into the lobby of ineialt.
Approximately three minutes after arriving in the lobby of the jail, I observed a female ihat
is
known to me by the name of JODI STACHOWSKI walking out of the secure portion of the jail
and the lobby' When JODI walked out she immediately recognized me and .uid, ,.I
suppose
you're here to talk to me." At that time JODI and I both walked outside. I asked JODI
if she had
a few minutes, if she would be willing to talk to me. JODI then requested that provide
I her with
a cigarette, which I did. JODI then stated she had a few minutes but could not talk
long because
she had a ride waiting for her.
I informed JODI at that time that she was not under arrest, and did not have to speak with me if
she did not want to. JODI indicated to me she understood this and still agreed ti
speak with me.
While standing outside, I told JODI that we would go up to the investigators' area in the sheriff s
department so that we could sit down and do the interview. JODI ugr..d to go with me to the
sheriff s department at that time.
Upon arrival at the sheriff s department, I did meet with JODI in an interview room which is
audio and videotaped. Again when I met with JODI, I informed her that she was not under
arrest, that she did not have to speak with me and she could get up and leave at any time. JODI
indicated she understood this.
JODI: Tuesday.
WIEGERT: Tuesday. I just wanna make it clear to you, you're not under arrest or
anything,
JODI: No.
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WIEGERT: You don't have ta talk to me. You understand that? You can get up and
walk out anytime. Okay? Why don't yatry the door just to prove.
WIEGERT: okay. So you can walk outta here anytime. you know that.
JODI: Yeah.
JODI: Yeah.
JODI: Mm hum.
WIEGERT: Okay. You want me to show you the phone calls first?
JODI: Yep.
WIEGERT: Yeah, there is. I suppose now it's shut down on me because it was sittin'
in here too long. See if it comes back up or I gotta restart it. Looks like I gotta restart it.
JODI: (laughing)
JODI: No?
WIEGERT: No.
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WIEGERT: Sure.
JODI: Chilton.
JODI: The bed, lot of stuff in the filing cabinet, my dog's ashes, if you still have
those
JODI: my daughter's grass skirt and I don't know what else. I've never seen a
list actually of everything you took yet.
WIEGERT: Well why don't you do this. Put together a list of what we, you think we
took
JODI: Mm hum.
WIEGERT: and, um, I'll see what we can do about getting that back for ya, how's
that?
JODI: Okay.
JODI: Mm hum.
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Dnng lt along.
,8,n, ,,1ril;;:^.',X1',i;li""l'r;i111,i.;iT l,li;ji?fdJ:klf:'ffii;H:;'
JODI: Mmkay.
WIEGERT: Matter of fact ah, up until day before yesterday he had made a phone
call
to her.
WIEGERT: okay. We'lIput the last one on here and see what it sounds like.
(Jodi listening to phone conversation)
JoDI: So she's takin' him money huh? why would he ask me to bring him
money then?
WIEGERT: well, I just thought you should know what's been going on
JODI: Yeah.
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WIEGERT: You're kind of in the dark now ... cause you have to stop contact and
everything with him and
JODI: Mm hum
WIEGERT: So, um
JODI: And she won't even lift the contact so I can tell him, you know, face to
face that it's over.
WIEGERT: Mm hum.
WIEGERT: Mm hum. Well the problem is, is the, from my understanding in talking to
the, your agent, when the pastor and him talk they talk about you once in a while.
JODI: Mm hum.
WIEGERT: What you're doing and the money you're making and things like that. So
that's, that's who, that's what got ya put in there the day before yesterday. okay.
JODI: Actually I believed it was because last Tuesday when he had court, I had
ta come ta town too and we passed him.
WIEGERT: Mm hum.
WIEGERT: And she talks, they talk about that on the phone too. It was for that as
well. Which was contact which you're not suppose ta have.
JODI: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Again, and whether you knew it was gonna happen or not.
WIEGERT: Okay. Okay. How long did you, did you guys follow them from Chilton
or what?
JODI: Yeah.
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JODI: On Hwy 151, I guess. I don't know. I was sleepin' and all of a sudden
she slammed on the brakes,I opened my eyes and there was a cop carin front of us.
WIEGERT: Okay. Well previous conversations that we've had Jodi and, and from
talkin' to other people you'd indicated again that if you want ta bury him, you could. What
does
that mean?
WIEGERT: Well whatta ya mean dirt? I'm gonna ask you right out. Do you have any
information about
WIEGERT: Okay.
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WIEGERT: That's pretty evident from things you've told me before that he's done to
yah. Let's just real quickly, I don't wanna get really in
deep into it again cuz I know you gotta
get going.
JODI: Mm hum.
WIEGERT: I don't wanna keep you here any longer than ..... Like I said you, you can
walk out any time you wanna end this ...
WIEGERT: Of mine?
WIEGERT: Sure.
JODI: Okay.
JODI: Mm hum.
WIEGERT: Call and then you just punch your number in and then I call yah back.
JODI: Yep.
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JODI: Mmkay.
WIEGERT: So you can give me a page any time you,d like to.
WIEGERT: So you said he's got a bad temper. Give me an example of his bad temper.
WIEGERT: Mm hum.
JODI: and he pushed all the dirt onto a cardboard box that he had opened up ta
use. And because I didn't jump when he said help me, he got mad and smashed the windshield
on the boat. Cuz,I didn't do it right when he wanted to.
JODI: No.
WIEGERT: Was that before or after you had him arrested that time for when he
choked you and things?
JODI: After.
JODI: Mm hum.
WIEGERT: Maybe that's why he didn't come after you, because he got arrested the
last time or, who knows, huh?
WIEGERT: Okay. Let's go over that real quickly, um, you were over at a friend's
house or somethin' you were at the races, is that right?
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JODI: He went up north and I told him that I was planning on goin' to the
races
because my mom and daughter were there.
WIEGERT: Okay.
JODI: But then I had changed my mind and then I called him and said well I
changed my mind again I am gonna go and he didn't want me goin', he
threw a fit I guess while
I was at the races he called the house and left what did he say 18 messages
and before I got
home, he raced home from up north erased them all and washiding outJide
when I got home.
WIEGERT: Okay.
JODI: I went in the house and I think I called him ta tell him I was home or he
called first, I don't remember how it went, and he asked me what I was wearing,
and for some
reason I knew he was around. I said, you know you can see me and I turned
around and he was
standing right behind me.
WIEGERT: Okay.
WIEGERT: Describe the fight again. How did that, what happened during that? He
called yah something. I sorry I didn't mean ta intemrpt.
WIEGERT: Mm hum.
JODI: .... He was just pissed cuz I went ta the races and he thousht I was
cheatin'on him or whatever or what not.
WIEGERT: Okay.
JODI: And he choked me and I passed out and, er before that he hit me or
somethin' and started choking me and then he walked away and I called the cops and he got
mad
and he choked me and I passed out and woke up he was draggin' me out the door.
WIEGERT: So he choked you with his hands, sh--just kinda show me how he did that.
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JODI: I don't
JODI:
WIEGERT: And then you, your woke up and he was draggin' you outta of the house?
JODI: Mm hum.
JODI: Mv arm.
WIEGERT: otuy. wtr"re was he gonna take you, er was he gonna take you
somewhere or what was he gonna do? Do you know?
JODI: He wanted me ta leave because he knew the cops was gonna come.
JoDI: He was still dragging me so I told him, you know, let go, let go, I'm not
going with you and he made me go with him.
JODI: Yeah.
WIEGERT: How did the cops finally catch up with you, or what happens?
JODI: They were parked you know how Avery Rd. comes out, and they were
parked across the street.
WIEGERT: Okay. So when you pulled out they pulled him over?
JODI: Yep.
JODI: Mm hum.
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JODI: Yep.
WIEGERT: Okay. Did he ever say he was gonna hurt you, kill you, anything like that?
JODI: Yep.
WIEGERT: Don Chewning. Are you saying that you want your lawyer now? While
we're talking now or?
JODI: No, not now, we'll, I'll work it out and we will talk again.
WIEGERT: So you're okay with this, talking a little bit right now.
JODI: Yeah.
WIEGERT: okay. How, I gotta ask yah, how could you afford a lawyer?
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WIEGERT: Dean Strang paid for him? okay. Where does Dean Strang get the money
ta pay for your lawyer?
WIEGERT: Okay' Again you had said that you could bury him. Is this the kind of
stuff you're talkin' about with what you're telling me?
WIEGERT: Okay.
WIEGERT: Okay. Um, you said you didn't want ta talk about the, if he ever
threatened to kill you
JODI: Mm hum.
WIEGERT: without your attorney. Okay. You're here on your own free will, right?
You're not under arrest. Is that right?
JODI: Yep.
JODI:
WIEGERT: Rieht?
JODI:
JODI: No.
WIEGERT: Okay. If Mr. Chewning is being paid by Dean Strang, do you think he's
going ta let you talk with me?
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WIEGERT: He will.
JODI: I don,t know. I'm suppose ta call him when I get home.
WIEGERT: okay. Well where ever I'd be more than glad ta meet with you and Mr.
Chewing at any time.
JODI: Okay.
WIEGERT: mmm. That's not a problem. I'll come over ta Oshkosh where ever your
going ta be living. I don't know where your going ta be living.
JODI:
WIEGERT: Okay. You have friends over in Oshkosh that you can stay with?
WIEGERT: Okay. What, is your probation agent gonna set something up for you or?
JODI: I told her if I had ta move, I'd get a motel room for now.
WIEGERT: okay. So your gonna call your po today, too, when you ger, get outta
here?
WIEGERT: Okay. Well if you want, I'll call for you over there and it's up to you,
your decision, I can call before we leave here to see if she wants to see you or what.
JoDI: well she told me she was gonna be doing home visits today.
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WIEGERT okay' I can call for you. It's up to you. I can even bring
you can talk the phone in and
ta' If she's not there, her supervisor, Joy, would
most 6t ieirre...
"ty
JODI: Naa, we'll just drive over there.
WIEGERT: okay' That's fine. Umm, is Steve, did Steve to you ever threaten to
anybody else? kill
WIEGERT: Okay, but you don,t wanna to answer that about yourself.
JODI: Umhm.
JODI: Umm
*IEGERT: Did you have phone contact with Steve that nisht?
JODI: Umhm.
JODI: Twice.
JODI: No.
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WIEGERT: You don't remember. okay. what was Brendan's and Steve's
relationship like?
WIEGERT: Did Steve kinda take him under his wing, take him places, that kinda
relationship, or
WIEGERT: No. Over at the trailer or anything like that? Go up north, anything?
JODI: They went up north together. He'd come over if Steven called him and
said he had work for him ta do,
WIEGERT: Okay.
WIEGERT: Let me ask you this and this might be kind of embarrassing for you, but ah
we've talked about this already, um, from my recollection of the last time we called, and again I
haven't looked at those reports or anything in a long time, but my recollection of when we talked
the last time is Steve had, for lack of a better word, quite a healthy sex appetite, is that correct?
JODI: Umhm.
WIEGERT: And from my recollection, you'd said that he would want it three. four.
five times a day, is that true?
WIEGERT: Okay. Tell me about that a little bit, I mean, put it in your own words, I
don't wanna put words in your mouth.
JODI: I dunno, when we started dating, what, two years ago, it was right after he
got out ofprison.
WIEGERT: Okay.
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JODI: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Okay. Again, this might be kind of embarassing but three, four, five
times day, ever get sore from that?
JODI: Oh yeah.
JODI: Yeah.
WIEGERT: Did you ever tell him, you know, maybe not today Steve, it-it's kinda
hurtin', did you ever tell him that or anything.
JODI: I think I did. I know when, whenever I did say it was hurtin' he would
stop.
WIEGERT: Okay.
WIEGERT: Yeah, I understand, it, it's quite a while ago. What was it like, I mean
when you were livin' there, he would be at work. Would he ever come home from work durins
the day? Never?
JODI: No.
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WIEGERT: He'd have lunch at his mom's and he'd go back to work.
JODI: Mmhm.
WIEGERT: Okay.
WIEGERT: Okay.
JoDI: If we leave at il, I'd get home at 1 and I gotta go see her.
JODI: I will.
WIEGERT: I'd, I'd be more than glad to sit down, and you said you have an attorney,
I'd be more than glad to sit down with Mr. Chewning (ph) and yourself ani tulk,
um, any time,
any place, anywhere
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JODI: Okay
WIEGERT: And like I said I got my pager with me 24 hours a day,just give me a
holler.
JODI: I will.
JODI: I'm trying not to, I don,t want, I,m sick of this place
WIEGERT: I don't
WIEGERT: That's good and I, I don't want to see you lose it either, a and no matter
what you think of me and I hope um, you don't think that I'm trying to get you fired from your
job or anything like that, I'm not
JODI: Oh, I don't think you are, I just think they are.
WIEGERT: Okay. I can't answer for that but um, I don't want to see vou eet fired
from yourjob, I, I
WIEGERT: Good. That's good. well let's get you outta here.
JODI: ...evensaturday
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WIEGERT: Sure.
(End of Tape)
Investigation continues.
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Investigation continues.
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The five items were placed in a secure storage locker for Deputy RIEMER. I signed the chain of
custody form the five items were on. The form was then put with the five items in the secure
storage locker for Deputy RIEMER to sign.
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on 08/15/06' the following items were placed back into a secure storage locker by Deputy
RIEMER:
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I opened up envelope #9 1 30 andtook the keys out of the envelope. I opened the
storage unit for
scorrs rowING who took the Toyota RAV4 out of the storage unit.
TIM
wI srATE PATRO^L^was there to photograph the inside of the Toyota AUSTIN from the
of the CALUMET couNTY SHERIFF'S oppanrvENT
RAV4. Inv. wIEGERT
assisted TIM AUSTIN by opening
the front passenger and driver's door at 10:21a.m.,
the passenger and driver rear doors at 70:22
a.m. and also the back cargo door at 10:24 a.m.
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Sandra L. Barth
DOB 02n0/47
4025 Waldo Blvd.
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Upon anival at the residence, SANDRA invited us in and we had a seat at the kitchen
table.
l':ffi*"*"t[f,ii&;iulr'!igp*
actually hated STEVEN. According to SANDRA, JODI
*asjr a rery abusive situation when
she was living with STEVEN AVERY.
SANDRA told us about one incident that JoDI had told her about. Jo
:,f,),",Bii:fffi:H,1;:iffJ:t'"1?lJil:*1iliil:
the bathroom inside of STEVEN's trailer because they thoilgh-t that STEVEN
,"
was pouring gas
around the trailer to light it on fire.
SANDRA also told us STEVEN, at one point, had threatened to take y from them
and put her in a foster home.
SANDRA stated she was told when these things would happen over at his residence, STEVEN
would have been drinking when he would get abusive hte tnis.
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SANDRA then went and retrieved a letter, *hl.nJrad written to her and her husband.
The following would be a transcript of the letter:
It sliould be noted a copy of that letter will be included rvith this repofi.
I asked SANDRA when she would have gotten that letter. She states she believes it would have
right before JODI had gone to jail in May of 2005.
SANDRA stated JODI had told her one other time about STEVEN getting abusive with her.
JODI told SANDRA she had gone to the races and STEVEN was ,uppor"d to be up north.
According to SANDRA, JODI had come home and was getting a drink of water and saw
STEVEN's reflection in the window at which time he grabbed her by the hair and pulled her
outside into the car.
When SANDRA last spoke to JODI, which was just recently, JODI had told her that STEVEN
had threatened several times to kill her (meaning JODI). JODI also told SANDRA that she had a
lot more stuffto tell the investigators but she did not want to until she sot her stuff out of
STEVEN's trailer.
JODI also told SANDRA on many occasions that STEVEN could kill JODI and nobody would
miss her. JODI also told her mom, SANDRA, that STEVEN had used handcuffs on her in a
sexual way.
SANDRA then told us that on one occasion she had to testifli against JODI in her operating
while intoxicated trial. SANDRA states she was very scared of STEVEN at that time because of
the look he was giving her. She stated she was so afraid that she had her door opener and her
phone in her hand when she walked out of the coudhouse. She stated STEVENand BRENDAN
DASSEY were walking in and out of the courthouse and giving her evil looks.
We asked SANDRA how JODI got to know STEVEN. SANDRA states JODI's friend,
MICHELLE, was friends with ROLLIE JOHNSON who lived in the trailer, which STEVEN
eventually moved into. JODI got to know ROLLIE through her friend MICHELLE and after
JODI had gotten kicked out of her house, ROLLIE allowed her to move into the trailer on the
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Michelle R. Mueller
DOB 04t2u7l
4352 HWY 83 N
Hartford. WI 53027
Telephone number: 262-670-6743
MICHELLE states she has known JODI since they were school age. According to MICHELLE,
she introduced JODI to ROLLIE JOHNSON who actually owned the trailer Sf-EVpX
AVERy
was living in. MICHELLE states when JODI moved into the trailer, that is how JODI met
STEVEN. STEVEN was living in an ice shanty on the AVERY property at the time. Shortly
after JODI met STEVEN, STEVEN moved into the trailer with f-Op}in approximately 2003.
MICHELLE said JODI had told her that when she (JODI) first met STEV-EI, he wanted sex all
the time. JODI also told MICHELLE that STEVEN had tied JODI up in bed. JODI told
MICHELLE on several occasions that after they would get done having sex, they would seem to
always have a fight and STEVEN would beat JODI up. JODI also toIdMICHELLE that
STEVEN had choked her (JODI) on a few occasions to the point where JODI passed out.
MICHELLE stated to me ROLLIE JOHNSON was aware of the abuse because JODI had told
ROLLIE about it. JODI had actually called ROLLIE on one occasion and ROLLIE had come to
the residence to speak with STEVEN about beating JODI up. According to MICHELLE, JODI
had bruises on her that ROLLIE had seen. It would have been the same weekend that STEVEN
allegedly had sex with his
MICHELLE estimated JODI had gotten beat up at least three times a week. I asked MICHELLE
how she knew about it. She stated JODI would call her and tell her about it. MICHELLE stated
JODI was working at a company when she was living with STEVEN. STEVEN had gotten
jealous of JODI's boss and STEVEN had actually showed up at JODI's place of empl,oyment
and threatened the boss. After STEVEN had shown up at JODI's place of emplo5rment, she had
gotten fired because of STEVEN's threats to the boss.
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MICHELLE told us JoDI also told her they had sex a lot. JODI
also told MICHELLE that if she
did not want to have sex with STEVEN, STEVEN would
"take it.,, JODI also told MICHELLE
she would get sore from having sex so often with
STEVEN but that didn,t matter to him and he
would still want to do it.
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JODI also stated she forgot to tell us about an incident where she
ended up in the hospital after
eating rat poison. She stated she tried to commit suicide
by eating rat poison and STEVEN had
taken her to HOLY FAMILY HOSPITAL in Manitowoc.
She stated hi, hupp",red in September
of2004.
I asked JODI why she had taken the rat poison to which she stated she
tried to kill herself
because she found out about STEVEN and his
When they got to the hospital,
STEVEN lied to the hospital staff and told them JODI mistakenly had
dranl out of a coke can
that had rat poison in. According to JODI, STEVEN did not
want the hospital staff to know she
had tried to commit suicide.
JODI also asked me, while on the phone, if we had anybody following
her home from work
yesterday' I told JoDI we did not have anybody following her
home ind we would have no
reason to do that. She states that after work yesterday, theie
was a Ford SUV, possibly an
Extera, following her all the way from work back to *h".. she lives.
I again assured J9DI it
was not anybody related to our department or this investigation
and informed her if that should
happen again, she should contact the local law enforce-*t in that jurisdiction.
I thanked JODI for her phone call and that was the end of our conversation.
Investigation continues.
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Complaint No. File Number
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At approximately 1450 hours, I did make phone contact with LAURA RICCIARDI of
SYNTHESIS FILMS, LLC. I explained to LAURA I had a signed Subpoena from Judge
WILLIS for specific documents from her film company. At that time, iAUna stated she did not
wish to speak with me and was not going to make herself available to have the Subpoena served
on her. I indicated again to LAURA that the Subpoena was signed by a circuit court judge,
at
which time LAURA stated she would consult her attorney and get back to me.
It should be noted I had not heard back from LAURA by the following day. On lI102106 at
approximately 1512 hours, I again made phone contact with LAURA RICCIARDI. LAURA
again told me on the phone that she'.was not interested in speaking with me." LAURA
stated to
me she feels like she is being harassed by me. I again informed LAURA that I had a time
sensitive Subpoena and we were looking for specific information. LAURA stated to me she
was
not interested in getting involved in the case, that she is not working for either the prosecution
or
the defense. She reiterated to me she is an independent film maker. I informed LAURA we
were looking for specific information and were not interested in ruining her film.
LAURA then stated to me she is again an independent and not working for either side. LAURA
stated she has contacted District Attorney KRATZ to interview him foi her film and at this time,
District Attomey KRATZ has refused to speak with her. I indicated I could not speak for
District Attorney KRATZ; however, law enforcement was not going to be involved in her film
out of respect for the HALBACH family. At that time, LAURA goi very upset with me and
stated she was going to hang up and did so.
On 11/03/05, I did make a copy of the Subpoena for Documents and sent it to LAURA
RICCIARDI at SYNTHESIS FILMS, LLC at the address of 1090 St. Nicholas Avenue, Apt.64,
New York, NY 10032. I have retained the original Subpoena so that I may serve LAURA in
person if the occasion should arise.
Investigation continues.
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Inv. Mark Wiegert
Calumet Co. Sheriffs Dept.
MWbdg
CALUMET COUNTY SH ERIFF'S DEPARTM ENT
Page
At approximately 10:30 a.m., I did fax BoB a copy of the Subpoena for Documents. It
should
be notedBoB did provide me with a phone number of 414-211-3400.
Investigation continues.
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on 11/1 5106,I did remove the keys from their evidence packaging and also removed
the
HALBACH vehicle from its storage area. It should be noted the HALBACH
vehicle was also
turned over to me from Deputy HAWKINS. The HALBACH vehicle
was removed from the
storage unit at approximately 9:15 a.m. on 11115106. The vehicle
was loaded onto a flatbed by
scoTT'S TOWING and transported to the GALUMET couNTy HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT
where I maintained custody of the vehicle and the storage unit keys.
At approximately 9:45 a.m.,I did tum over possession of the HALBACH vehicle to lnv.
DEDERING. The keys for the storage unit were maintained and secured by
myself. For more
information on this, please see Inv. DEDERING,s report.
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The Toyota RAV4 had been removed from storage and transported to the CALUMET COUNTy
HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT in order to have FBI technicians do laser scans of the vehicle.
At 0951 hours, I (DEDERING) did compromise the evidence tape securing all the doors to the
vehicle.
At 1044 hours, the surplus evidence tape that had been built up from other entries to the vehicle
was removed in order to get an accurate laser scan off the exterior.
At approximately I100 hours, the technicians began the scan of the unit.
The technicians finished the laser scan at approximately 2150 hours on Wednesday, 1 ll15106.
At2212 hours, TERESA HALBACH's Toyota RAV4 was transported back to storage via
flatbed. The vehicle was secured at approximately 2220hours.
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I went to the evidence room with Det. REMIKER at approximately 10:50 a.m. at which time he
showed me two pieces of evidence. one was a box, which was sealed and labeled with
evidence
tape' The second was an envelope, which was also sealed. The first package had a number on it
of M851051. It indicated the package was received from the wI srATE czuHae
LABORATORY ANd thE rEtUM Address had DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS on it. Inside
this envelope was a second manila envelope with the name MARIE BETH VARRIALE on it.
Inside manila envelope was a white envelope sealed with evidence tape. We did not open white
envelope; however, you could feel and see a Buccal swab through that envelope.
The second box had a number attached to it of 58504851, which would be a MANITOWOC
COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT number. That package was opened at 1l:03 a.m. There
was a crime lab seal attached to the box with again the number of MSSIOSl attached to it.
Located in that sealed box were separate envelopes containing pubic hair, head hair and
fingernail scrapings. It should be noted there was no blood or any blood samples located in
either of those packages.
Det. REMIKER stated those were the only two packages located in their evidence room that
contained any specimens regarding STEVEN AVERY.
Det. REMIKER and I then left and secured the evidence room.
Investigation continues.
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Complaint No.
File Number
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Andres F. Martinez
DOB r0t09t63
Green Bay Correctional Institute
Green Bav. WI
At approximately 10:00 a.m., Special Agent FASSBENDER and I did meet with MARTINEZ
in
an interview room at the correctional institute. Special Agent FASSBENDER
and I identified
ourselves to MARTINEZ. MARTINEZ stated tous he was not sure he
wanted to talk to us now.
He stated he had tried to get a hold of us about a month or so ago and has
since changed his
mind. I informed MARTINEZthatwas his right and he did not need to talk with usfhowever,
we informed him that his information could be helpful in the homicide case.
MARTINEZ stated he was friends with STEVEN AVERY. He also told us he would commonly
go to the junk yard sometimes as often as a couple times aday. MARTINEZtoldus
STEVEN
AVERY told him he (meaning STEVEN AVERY) thought TERESA HALBACH was
coming to
his house to pinpoint him for a crime he did not commit. I asked MARTINEZ if
STEVEN
thought TERESA was spying on him to which MARTINEZ statedthat is what
STEVEN told
him he believed was happening. I asked MARTINEZ if STEVEN mentioned TERESA
by name
to which MARTINEZ stated STEVEN did.
MARTINEZ also told us STEVEN AVERY told him STEVEN said he wanted to dispose
of her
(meaning TERESA).
MARTINEZ also told us STEVEN had shown him a little book, which had TERESA,s phone
number in it. Again, MARTINEZ stated STEVEN believed TERESA was spying
on him for a
crime he was innocent of.
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MARTINEZ also told us STEVEN would commonly mention a baggie TERESA had that
he
wanted to get.
MARTINEZthen stated he remembers on one occasion STEVEN and he were up on a hill with a
truck in the salvage yard. MARTINEZ indicated STEVEN had a camera with him and he
(meaning MARTINEZ) and STEVEN observed TERESA drive into the salvage
area and
STEVEN took his camera out and was taking pictures of TERESA as she drove in.
I questioned MARTINEZ about specific information STEVEN had told him about the death
andlot disappearance of TERESA HALBACH. MARTINEZ stated he did not want to talk about
it. MARTINEZ stated his son, JAMES, did not wish him to get involved in the case and he did
not want to say anymore about it. MARTINEZ stated he was going to be meeting with his son
this week and he would send us a letter indicating if he wished to speak with us anymore
reference this case.
I then provided MARTINEZ with a business card and thanked him for his cooperation at which
time we left the interview room.
Investigation continues.
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TYPE OF ACTIVITY: Transport Items to Crime Lab and DCI Office in Madison
o Property Tag #9621, four swabs from concrete of unknown substance frorn Item #9615
o Property Tag#9622, two swabs of unknown substance from Item #9619
o Property Tag #9623, one control swab from concrete from Item #9619
o Property Tag #9624, two swabs from Point A from Item #8283
o Property Tag #9625, one control swab from point A from Item #g2g3
o Property Tag #9626, two swabs from Point B from Item #8283
o Property Tag #9627, control swab from Point B from Item #8283
o Property Tag#9628, one swab from Point C from Item #8283
o Property Tag #9629, control swab from Point C from Item #8283
o Property Tag #9630, two swabs from Point D of unknown substance from Item #8283
o Property Tag #9631, control swab from Point D from Item #9283
o Property Tag #9632, swab from Point G from Item #8283
o PropertyTag#9633, control swab from Point G from Item #8283
o Property Tag #9634, two swabs from Point F from Item #8283
o Property Tag #9635, control swab from Point F from Item #8283
o Property Tag #9636, four swabs from Point E from Item #8283
o PropertyTag#9637, control swab from Point E from Item #8283
o Property Tag #9638, three swabs from Point H from Item #8283
o Property Tag #9639, control swab from Point H from Item #8283
o Property Tag#9640, two swabs from Point J from Item #8283
o Property Tag#9683, control swab from Point J from Item #8283
o Property Tag #8803, two swabs from Point I from Item #8283
o Property Tag #8804, control swab from Point I from Item #8283
o Property Tag #8805, two swabs from Point K from Item #8283
o Property Tag #8806, control swab from Point K from Item #8283
o Property Tag #8807, one swab of unknown substance from Item #9616
o Property Tag #8808, control swab from Item #9616
o Property Tag #8809, one swab from Point A from Item #8284
o Property Tag #8810, control swab from Point A from Item #8284
o Property Tag #8811, one swab from Point B from ltem#8284
o Property Tag #8812, control swab from Point B from Item #8284
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The WISCONSIN STATE CRIME LAB in Madison informed me they did not want any of the
control swabs that I had brought down. The custody of the following items were signed over to
FRAN LUTZ of the WI STATE CRIME LAB in Madison:
o Property Tag #9621, four swabs from concrete of unknown substance from Item #9615
o Property Tag#9622, two swabs of unknown substance from Item #9619
o Property Tag #9624, two swabs from point A from Item #g2g3
o Property Tag#9626, two swabs from point B from Item #g2g3
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o Property Tag #8864, one swab of unknown substance at Point D from ltem#8276
o Property Tag #8866, two swabs at Point A from Item #8288
o Property Tag #8868, one swab at Point B from Item #8288
o Property Tag #8870, two swabs of unknown substance at Point C from concrete from
Item #8288
o Property Tag #8872, four swabs of unknown substance from small chunk of concrete
from Item #8288
o Property Tag#8874, four swabs of unknown substance at Point A from Item #8281
o Property Tag #8876, two swabs of unknown substance at Point B from Item #8281
o Property Tag #8878, two swabs of unknown substance at Point C from Item #8288
The control swabs were then placed back into a secure portion of my motor vehicle to be
transported back to the GALUMET coLrNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
After I was finished at the DCI OFFICE, I transported the control swabs to the CALUMET
COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT where they were placed back into secure storage.
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I got out of secure storage and signed over the custody of the following items:
Later on 10ll9l06,Inv. WIEGERT returned the three videotapes to myself where I took custody
of the three videotapes. The three tapes were then placed into secure storage.
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Complaint No. File Number
05-0157-9s5
TYPE OF ACTIVITY: Releasing Items for Transport to the WI State Crime Lab and
Releasing Items for Transport to Dr. Leslie Eisenberg at the
Dane County Coroner's Office.
I also released the following items to Inv. WIEGERT to be transported to LESLIE EISENBERG
at the DANE COUNTY CORONER'S OFFICE:
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TYPE OF ACTIVITY: Transport Items to Crime Lab; Meeting with Sherry Culhane
The five items were signed over to DELORES LARSON by myself when I arrived at the WI
STATE CRIME LAB in Madison.
I also transported several items so SHERRY CULHANE could see if there was enough sample
left for testing by the defense. The following items were taken to the crime lab:
The three sealed DNA packets were placed in a cooler so they would stay cold.
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o Property Tag #9563, a swab of unknown stain from plastic panel across rear of cargo area
o Property Tag #9572, a swab of stain from CD case on front passenger seat
o Property Tag #9571, a stain from front driver's seat
o Property Tag #9588, a swab of stain from passenger side of center console
o Property Tag #9575, a swab of stain - compact flash card
o Property Tag #9580, a swab of stain from remote control
o Property Tag #9568, a reddish brown crust located on floor between center console and
driver's seat
o Property Tag #9589, swab of unknown stain from center console
o Property Tag #9590, swab of unknown stain from center console near to rear window
button
o Property Tag #9591, swab of unknown stain from gear shaft
o Property Tag #9592, cutting of reddish brown stain
WISCONSIN STATE CRIME LAB Analyst SHERRY CULHANE looked at the items to
determine if there was enough left for testing. I was present the whole time while SHERRY was
looking at the items. It was determined by SHERRY CULHANE the following property tag
numbers had enough stain that could be tested:
SHERRY CULHANE determined that Property Tag#9573 there was nothing left to be tested.
SHERRY CULHANE determined the following items had swab left but no visible stains. These
items were:
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The following items were not looked at because these items came from STEVEN AVERy's
Grand Am:
After SHERRY CULHANE looked at the items, the items were transported back to the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT where I placed them into secure storage.
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I signed the three items over to Deputy SABLICH at the beginning of the processing time.
At approximately 6:36 p.m., Deputy SABLICH opened Property Tag #8106, the vacuum bag and
filter. Both Deputy SABLICH and DANIEL FEUCHT went through the vacuum bag and the
filter to see if there was any possible evidence within the bag. The bag was searched by
ultraviolet light, flashlight and by the fluorescent light of the room. Numerous hairs and fibers
were found in the vacuum bag and filter. Deputy SABLICH photographed the fibers, both scale
and unscaled. At 6:54 p.m., the fibers were put into a pill box and given to myself where I
packaged the fibers. The fibers will be under Property Tag#9642. The vacuum bag was then
placed back into its bag where I repackaged the vacuum bag and filter.
At approximately 7:04 p.m., Deputy SABLICH opened Property Tag #8708, the vacuum.
Deputy SABLICH and DANIEL FEUCHT looked over the vacuum, the cord and hoses with the
ultraviolet light, a flashlight and also the fluorescent room light for any possible evidence from
the vacuum. The vacuum roller was taken out of the vacuum. The vacuum roller contained,
what appeared to be, strands of hair. At 7:27 p.m., the vacuum roller was placed in a paper bag
where I sealed the bag and placed it under Property Tag#9643. With the assistance of Deputy
SABLICH, I repackaged the vacuum.
At approximately 7:47 p.m., Deputy SABLICH and DANIEL FEUCHT checked the carpet
cleaner with the ultraviolet light, flashlight and the room fluorescent lights for any possible stains
or any other evidence that could be seen. Deputy SABLICH and DANIEL FEUCHT checked
the cords and also the different compartments of the carpet cleaner.
At approximately 8:09 p.m., the roller from the carpet cleaner containing possible hair was
collected, placed in a paper bag and sealed by myself. The carpet cleaner roller with possible
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hair was placed under Property Tag#9644. After all items had been processed, the vacuum
cleaner bag and filter, the carpet cleaner, the vacuum, the fiber pieces, the vacuum roller and the
carpet cleaner roller were placed into secure storage by myself. Custody of all items was signed
over to me.
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The five items were taken to the CALUMET COUNTY HIGHWAY SHOP where FBI field
agents were scanning the RAV4 belonging to TERESA HALBACH.
I arrived at the county highway shop located in Chilton where the RAV4 was being scanned.
The first items the FBI wanted to scan were Property Tag#9078 and Property Tag #9019, the
passenger and driver's seat of the Toyota RAV4. I put on gloves before handling the items. The
boxes were opened by myself and each item was taken out by myself and placed onto a new
white sheet.
After the driver and the passenger seat of the RAV4 were completed being scanned, the seats
were placed back into their boxes where I sealed the boxes.
The next item the FBI wanted to scan was Property Tag #9582, a black CD case. The black CD
case was taken out of its package by myself and scanned by the FBI field agents. Once the CD
case was completed being scanned, I placed the CD case back into its original package. The CD
case was then resealed. When I handled the CD case, a new pair of gloves was used.
The next item the FBI asked me to take out was Property Tag #9576, a Cherry Pepsi can. I
exchanged gloves and took the Cherry Pepsi can out of its package. The FBI field agents scarmed
the Cherry Pepsi can. After the Cherry Pepsi can was scanned, the Cherry Pepsi can was placed
back into its original package and resealed by myself.
The last item I took out was Property Tag #8719, the blue AIR NATIONAL GUARD lanyard.
Again, I changed gloves prior to handling the lanyard. The FBI field agents stated it would be
hard for them to scan the lanyard. The lanyard was placed back into its original package and
resealed by myself without being scanned.
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A1I fiVE itEMS WETE TAKEN bACK tO thE CALUMET COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
ANd
placed back into secure storage by myself.
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o Property Tag #7609, Marlin, Model 60, .22 caliber semi-automatic rifle
o Property Tag #7610, Model I9I3 25 ASP semi-automatic pistol
o Property Tag#7611, Raven Arms, Model MP25, ACP semi-automatic pistol with case
o Property Tag #7612, Colt Huntsman .22 caliber pistol
o Property Tag#7124, Harrington & Richardson 20 gauge shotgun
o Property Tag #7614, Winchester, Model 1300, pump 20 gauge shotgun
o Property Tag #7615,Winchester, Model I28, 72 gauge pump shotgun
o Property Tag#8014, Sturm Ruger .223 callber with a black plastic case
o Property Tag #8015, Mossberg 12 gauge shotgun
o Property Tag #8016, Remington Woodmaster, Model 742,30.06 semi automatic
o Property Tag #8017, Mauser bolt action, Model Argentino 1909
o Property Tag #8018, 16 gauge single shot shotgun
o Property Tag#8019, Marlin bolt action .22 callber .'ifle
o PropertyTag#8020,.50 caliber Connecticut Valley Arms muzzle loader
o Property Tag#8022,16 gauge JC Higgins bolt action shotgun
o Property Tag #8021, .22 callber GFI Miami, FL handgun
o Property Tag#8024, 12 gauge pump shotgun
o Property Tag #8025, .22 cahber semi automatic Marlin rifle
o PropertyTag#7114, Remington 760 pump 30.06
o Property Tag #7113, Ruger deer stager .44 magnum semi automatic
o Property Tag #6196, Remington 870 Wingmasler 12 gauge pump
o Property Tag #6191, Remington 760 pump 30.06
o Property Tag #6192, Winchester, Model 70, 30.06 bolt action
o Property Tag #6197, Remington, Model 727,bolt action, 30.06
o Property Tag #6194, Mossberg, Model 385KA, 20 gauge bolt
o Property Tag #8688, 30.06 Remington,ModelT42
Also released was a coin purse that contained four singles, one $5.00 bill, one $10.00 bill, 28
quarters, one nickel and seven dimes. That item was under Property Tag#7112.
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Also released was a cell phone box containing cell phones under Property Tag#8670.
All items were checked within CHARLES' presence. I assisted in loading the items into
CHARLES' vehicle. CHARLES signed the evidence documents taking custody of the items.
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I went out to the blue storage unit with Lt. KELLY sIppEL.
I unlocked the locks to the blue
storage unit' I opened the blue storage unit at
approximately g:3g a.m. Lt. sIppEL and myself
put gloves on' At approximately 9:39 a.m., I opared
the hood release and Lt. sIppEL opened
the hood of the motor vehicle. Lt. SIPPEL then placed
the battery leads onto the battery.
At approximately 9:43 a.m.,I put the key into the ignition and
turned the key. At approximately
9:45 a.m.,I started the RAV4 using the key that wa"s
in eviJence.
At approximately 9:47 a.m., the battery was disconnected and
the hood to the RAV4 was closed.
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DATE OF ACTIVITY:
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Terry G. Vollbrecht
DOB 07/28/61
Waupun Correctional Institution
Waupun, WI
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Investigation continues.
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Investigation continues.
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Richard R. Rohl
DOB 06/12/63
4924 CTH CR
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-7 58-2196
RICHARD R. ROHL
DOB 06tr2t63
4924 CTH CR
Manitowoc,WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-758-2196
The reason for my contact with RoHL was that in reviewing STEVEN
AVERy,s cellular
telephone records, the records showed that STEVEN AVERY had placed
a phone call to
RICHARD ROHL on 10/31105 at 12:17 p.m. The phone call was 40
,."ond, in duration.
had no independent knowledge of this phone call. He stated
loHL he became acquainted with
STEVEN AVERY after STEVEN had left a note at his door asking if
ROHL wanted to sell a
dump truck that ROHL possessed. ROHL stated he called the number
on the note and learned
the individual interested in buying the truck was sTEVEN AVERy.
He stated he had contacted
STEVEN AVERY for a "prison counsel" in regard to some operating
while intoxicated charges
that ROHL is currently facing. ROHL indicatel he believed that
"they all go into law when they
go into jail."
ROHL indicated STEVEN and his girlfriend came over and actually reviewed
the court
documents with ROHL concerning the OWI arrest.
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ROHL stated he and AVERY had "small talk" about the AVERy,s
AUTO SALVAGE vehicle.
ROHL indicated he did not have any independent recollection
of the dates these contacts
occurred' ROHL indicated he believed thi contacts took place
either in fall or in spring.
Investigation continues.
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At approximately l:74 a.m, a change of gloves occurred and property Tag #95g4,Aquafina
water-bottle' was opened. The Aquafina water bottle was photographed.
i also photographed the
Aquafina water bottle with the property tag and STATE cirrnap raB
tag showing. The
Aquafina water bottle was repackaged.
A glove change occurred and at approximat ely I:20 a.m., Property Tag #9577,the
driver,s side
blinker, was taken out of the package. The driver's side 6n*"r was pf,otographed.
I also
photographed the driver's side blinker with the property
tag and STATE CzunAp LAB tag
showing. The driver's side blinker was then repackaged. -
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A glove change occurred. At 8:32 a.m., Property Tag#7g35,a clear light lens,
was taken out of
its package' The clear light lens was photographed. I also photographed
the clear light lens with
the property tag and STATE CRIME LAB Lg showing. The
clear lens was then repackaged.
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TYPE oF ACTIVITY: Assisting State Trooper Tim Austin with Evidence photos
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Lead metal was detected on six different areas in and around the edges
of the semi-circular hole
in Item KQ.
Investigation continues.
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Upon arrival, we spoke with JANET BONIN from the clerk's office. JANET
took us into a
separate office where she showed us two boxes containing the AVERy
case file. JANET further
stated the reported blood sample, which was in that case fiI",
-u, now locked
clerk's office per Judge WILLIS' orders. JANET provided us with a sign-in
into a safe at the
book, in which
people sign in when they enter the clerk's office to review a case nle.
ttiO locate on the sign-in
bOOK, dAtcd 12-06-06, where JEROME BUTING, CONRAD
BAETZand DEAN STRANG,
would have looked at Complaint No. 85-FE-118, which would be a STEVEN
AVERy case. I
also located in that book, dated 08/10/06, where LAURA RICCIARDI,
who is known to me as
representing SYNTHESIS FILMS, looked at three separate case files,
85-FE-11g, g5-FE-3 and
82-MD-371. Again, all three of those case files woul,il be reference STEVEN AVERY.
JANET
further told me verbally that JEROME BUTING had been at her office on
two separate
occasions, unknown exact dates, DEAN STRANG would have been there
on one occasion,
which we believe was 12106106, and an investigator for BUTING and STRANG
would have
been there on three separate occasions including 12106106. I could find
no record of anyone
from MANITOWOC COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT inspecting the
case file.
JANET stated the case file previously was stored in a basement storage area
of the courthouse.
Included in that case file would have been a reported box containing a blood
sample along with
several sealed envelopes containing hair and fingernail scrapings. Iccording
to JANET, after
AVERY was released from prison, the boxes containing the case file were moved upstairs
because of a high demand in looking at those items. The items were then
stored betrind a secure
door at the clerk's office on a shelf near a window. The items were then moved
into an office,
which is maintained by the MANITOwoc couNTY CLERK OF COURT LYNN
ZIGMONT
(ph)' According to JANET, the door for the Clerk of Courts office is always locked and people
have to be let into that area. The items were never stored in a common
area. JANET states it is
common practice when people come in to view the items, one of their employees
is normally
with them.
In that case file, I did locate an Order, signed by the Honorable FRED HAZELWOOD,
former
Manitowoc County Circuit Court Judge, filed on 05102102. It indicates that the following
evidence shall be released for DNA testins:
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The order signed by the judge indicates the Clerk of Courts of Manitowoc
County shall seal the
above listed evidence and release it to a sherifls deputy. It also states
the sheriff's deputy shall
transport the evidence while maintaining a chain of custody to the WI
STATE CRIME
LABORATORY. No where in that document could I find any paperwork indicating
any blood
WAS TEICASCd tO ANY MEMbCT Of thc MANITOWOC
COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
I further located a Receipt of Physical Evidence, which was filled out by the STATE
CRIME
LABORATORY, items that were submitted by officer MIKE SHALLUE. It
indicates Item C1
through C5 was one sealed envelope containing questioned hairs. Item Dl0
was one heat sealed
plastic bag containing pubic hair combings. Item Dl 1 was one heat
sealed plastic bag containing
a pubic hair sample. Item Dl2 was one heat sealed plastic bag
containing a standard hair
sample. Item Dl3 was one heat sealed plastic bag containing fingernail s"crapings.
Item F1
through F2 was one sealed envelope containing questioned hairs. Item V
*u, on" sealed plastic
bag containing standard hair sample collected from STEVEN AVERY.
It appears as though these items were submitted by MIKE SHALLUE of the MANITowoC
COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. Again, there is no record of any deputy
fiom
MANITOWOC COTINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ever receiving or transierring
any
blood sample.
In reviewing the Defendant's Motion for Order Allowing Access to prior Court
File, under
Exhibit 1, an Evidence Transmittal, which is signed by Det. Sgt. JAMES LENK, indicates
that
one box of items to be tested by use of DNA procedures per circuit court
order. These items
were exhibits held by the court since the end of the trial. It also indicates they
are hair and
fingernail cuttings. Again, there is no record of any member of the MANITOWOC
COLINTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT including JAMES LENK of having custody or knowing
about a
blood sample.
A copy of the STATE CRIME LABORATORY Receipt and the judge's Order indicating what
should be sent to the crime lab will be included with this report.
Investigation continues.
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No. F,r. ,i3if.,
Inv. Mark Wiegert
Calumet Co. Sheriffs Dept.
MWbdg
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I did SPEAK With TIM AUSTIN Of thE WI STATE PATROL iN WhiCh TIM AUSTIN
iNdiCAtCd hE
had placed Item #1 and Item #2 into his diagram east of the west wall as according to my
original report. When he had drawn the diagram using the measurements east of the west wall, it
did not locate to the area of the garagewhere I recalled the items being. When TIM AUSTIN
used the measurements west of the east wall the items fit exactly when compared to photographs
and other measurements taken by myself. The correction should be made Item #1, pioperty Tag
#8605, Black Jack creeper, 7' west of the east wall, and Item #2,PropertyTag#8606,o"" pturti"
jug, name brand clean strip paint thinner, 13'8" west of the east wall.
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Upon arrival, I met with Assistant District Attomey NORM GAHN from the MILWAUKEE
COLTNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. Also present were JEROME BUTING,
representing the AVERY defense, as well as an investigator from the AVERY defense team by
the name of CONRAD BAETZ. The four of us went in the Clerk of Courts Office after beinglet
in the secured door. We were allowed into the Clerk of Courts Office where we met with the
Criminal Clerk of Courts Worker JANET BONIN.
A white cardboard box was then removed from a safe located in the Clerk of Courts Office. One
side of the white cardboard box was sealed with red evidence tape and dated 03l13196 and had
the last name KAINZ written across the tape. The other end of the box had white evidence tape
on it with the initials M.E.c. on it. It appears as though the white evidence tape was not secured
and had been opened. There was, however, what appeared to be white scotch tape sealing the
other side of the white box. Located on the outside of the white box was writing that stated
0611910212:25 openper FHH instructions by E.J. FITZGERALD. It states closed 611910212:27
contains S. AVERY's whole blood sample and it is signed by E.J. FITZGERALD. There was
also a small white sticker, located on the outside of the white box, which had the date 01104196
on it with the initials S.A. and the numbers 95-624.
After completing photos of the white cardboard box, I did apply gloves, opened the white box
and removed a Styrofoam box, which was located inside the cardboard box. The white
cardboard box was opened at 1536 hours.
I then applied gloves to my hands and removed the white Styrofoam container, which was
located inside the cardboard box. At first glance, it appeared as though the Styrofoam container
was sealed with evidence tape and I did not locate any marking on the Styrofoam itself. Upon
further examination, it appeared as though one of the sides of the Styrofoam container was
secured with red evidence tape. The other end of the Styrofoam box appeared to have been
open. There were two types of evidence tape, one clear, which appeared to be placed over the
red evidence tape. The red evidence tape on one end had the date of 01/02196 with a name,
which would be unknown to me. On that same end, there was white evidence tape that was
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placed over it with the date 03113196, and initials M.E.C. on the clear evidence tape. Upon
further examination, on the red evidence tape located on the same end as the clear evidence tape,
the date of 01112196 was on it and it appeared the initials of W.H.S.E.L.E.R. would be on the ied
evidence tape.
I then changed my gloves, after taking photos of the outside of the white Styrofoam box, and
opened the Styrofoam box. We found located inside the white Styrofoam container a tube,
which is commonly known as a vacutainer tube. Located on the purple top vacutainer tube was a
white label. On one side of the tube, the white label had a date of 0l104196 on it with the initials
S.A. and the number 95-624. The S.A. and the number 95-624 were handwritten in ink. There
was also another number typed on the tube with 004-983 and underneath it 0001. On the other
side of the tube was a label. On the top it indicated it was a vacutainer brand sterile interior with
a writing undemeath that, which stated EDTA. On that label was a handwritten name of
STEVEN AVERY with the number 122987 also handwritten underneath it. The substance
would appear to be blood, which also appeared to still be liquid.
The Styrofoam container was then resealed and placed back into the white cardboard box and
sealed with evidence tape along with my initials. The white cardboard box was sealed at 155g
hours and was returned to JANET BONIN of the clerk of courts at that time.
Investigation continues.
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Joe F. Beauknecht
DOB 12/18/53
1303 Mahogany Run
Two Riverso WI 54241
Telephone number: 901-138g
I asked JOE if was aware of the blood sample, which was contained in the AVERy case file
located in the Clerk of Courts Office. JOE stated he was not aware of any blood sample
and was
never aware of any blood that was kept at the Clerk of Courts Office. According to JOE, the
case file for Mr. AVERY was stored primarily in the basement area of the Clerk of
Courts
behind a secure door.
I asked JOE if he remembered anybody every asking to see the file, specifically anybody from
the MANITOWOC COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. JOE stated he never had anvbodv
request of him to see the case file.
I asked JOE if he had ever heard of Lt. LENK. JOE states he does not know Lt. LENK and has
never spoken with Lt. LENK.
I asked JOE about Sgt. ANDY COLBURN. JOE states he heard Sgt. COLBURN's name but
would not know him by face and has never spoken to him.
I asked JOE the normal procedure if somebody had requested to see a case file. JOE states they
would retrieve the case file and then take it into the lobby area and stay with the person who
would have been examining the case file. JOE states occasionally if an officer would ask for the
file, they would allow him behind the secure door but would also have somebody stav with the
officer while he was examining the case file.
JOE stated when he had taken office in 1997, he changed the combination to the door, which
leads to the offices.
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Marlene J. Kraintz
DOB 02t26t3s
409 E. Jefferson Street
Waupun, WI 53963
Telephone number: 920-324-5692
MARLENE states she started at FOX LAKE CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTE in 1989 and
retired the first time in 1997. She states she went back to work at Fox Lake as a limited term
employee briefly in 2001. MARLENE would be a LPN at FOX LAKE CORRECTIONAL
INSTITUTE.
I asked MARLENE if she remembers specifically STEVEN AVERY to which she states she
does not. She states she has seen things on the TV and in the news about Mr. AVERY but does
not remember him specifically being at the prison. MARLENE states when she worked at Fox
Lake, she worked in the pharmacy and was a phlebotomist. I asked MARLENE if she
specifically remembers doing a blood draw on Mr. AVERY, again, which she states she does
not. She states normally the paperwork would go to her boss and she would get the paperwork
and would do the blood draw. She thinks her supervisor at the time would have been ELAINE
WHEELER. She states when they would take the blood, they would document the date and time
and what was drawn and they would put it also in his chart. She states the charts were kept in a
separate room from where they drew the blood.
I asked MARLENE if she recalls what type of tube she would normally draw blood into. She
states it would depend on the reason they were drawing blood. I asked her for instance if it was
for DNA testing. She states she believes it would have been drawn into a purple top tube for a
CBC, which would be for several types of tests. She states the tubes are different sizes and the
vial/vacutainer tube would determine how much blood was drawn. She states the tube would not
always be full that it would depend on how much the vacutainer drew in. On most occasions,
she states they would not have problems drawing blood, however, occasionally, they would blow
a vein or something else would go wrong and it would stop drawing blood into the vacutainer
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tube. She states she would draw the blood as per the directions on the blood draw kit and then
the blood draw kit would be sealed with evidence tape, which was located also in the kit.
At that time, I took out several pictures we had taken of the blood, which was located at the
Clerk of Courts Office in Manitowoc. The first picture I showed her was of the cardboard box,
which had evidence tape affixed to it. It should be noted MARLENE instantly recognized her
signature on the red evidence tape. I then showed her a picture of the purple top tube itself,
which was located in the Styrofoam container. MARLENE states she believesihe handwritins.
depicting it as STEVEN AVERY's blood, would also be her handwriting.
I also showed MARLENE a picture of the vacutainer tube with the purple top and the black spot
in the middle of it. MARLENE states she believes that black spot would be ihe area where the
tube plugs into the needle where the blood is drawn out of. She states that black spot would have
been from the needle. Again she states the draw stops at the point where it cannoipull anSrmore
out. She states she knows there is a chemical in the tube so the blood will not clot.
I asked MARLENE about the purple top on the tube. She states the purple top normally is not
taken off and it is very difficult to get out of the tube. You have to really pull on the top to get it
off.
I asked MARLENE what the normal procedure is after the blood is drawn. She states they
would call an officer and the officer would pick up the tube and take it to the guardhouse where
it would be FedExed out to wherever the blood would be going. She states ELAINE WHEELER
was probably with her when she drew the blood from Mr. AVERY.
I asked MARLENE if anybody had ever contacted her about the blood draw to which she stated
nobody had. I specifically asked her if anybody from MANITOWOC COLTNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT had talked to her about the blood draw to which she stated they had not.
MARLENE states she did do some fill-in work at KETTLE MORAINE CORRECTIONAL
INSTITUTE, however, the blood would not have been drawn at Kettle Moraine.
Agent FASSBENDER then showed MARLENE a copy of an evidence transmittal, which had
the heading RAUCH (ph) BIOMEDICAL LABORATORIES on it. MARLENE recopnized her
writing on the suspect line.
MARLENE was unable to provide us with any further information at which time we thanked her
for her assistance and ended the interview at 1 I :14 a.m.
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Det. REMIKER said he worked 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. on the 31't. He had come home and gone
to some land on CTH B in the area of Crystal Springs Rd. with his brother-in-law, BRAD. He
recalls he returned home in time to hand out trick-or-treat candy because his wife was ready to
have a baby any day.
On 11/01/05, he said he had worked only a half a day and took a half of day of sick time to go
with his wife to the doctor for a checkup to find out how the baby was doing. He recalls at that
appointment, the doctor told them that she was going to be induced on the 9th of November. Det.
REMIKER does not recall great detail, but had thought he worked in the moming and took off in
the afternoon.
OnIIl02l05, he said he worked from 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., however, does not remember what
he did after work. He said that on Wednesday nights, he usually played basketball at the school
at 6:00 p.m., however, with his wife being pregnant, does not know if he did on that night or not.
On 11/03/05, Det. REMIKER had taken off because his wife was very pregnant at this point and
may possibly have needed him at home that day.
On IIl04l05, Det. REMIKER worked 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. and did not recall the evening hours
and his activities.
On 11/05/05, Det. REMIKER worked 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m. and recalls very clearly the phone
CONIACI hE hAd with Inv. WIEGERT of the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF,S DEPARTMENT
when TERESA's vehicle was found on the AVERY property.
I inquired with Det. REMIKER when he started with the department and he had started in the jail
in January, 1993 through October, 1993. He then moved to patrol duties from Octob er, 7993
through May,2003. Det. REMIKER said he also worked with the drug unit for a couple of years
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and after that was promoted May, 2003, through today's date, as a detective with MANITOWOC
COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
I asked Det. REMIKER about the area and his knowledge about STEVEN AVERY's vial of
blood, where it was kept or any knowledge he may have had about it. Det. REMIKER did not
know anything about it until the defense had brought it to the media's attention in December.
Det. REMIKER said he has no idea where the blood was nor has he seen where the blood was
kept.
I asked Det. REMIKER if he has ever had the code or has ever been back in the vaulted secure
area of the Clerk of Courts and he said, no he has never had the code for that area nor has he ever
been in that vaulted secure area. He did state while he worked for the drug unit, he was only in
the general secretarial area tuming in paperwork or having conversation with the secretaries in
the Clerk of Courts Office. He said the secretaries would have to open the secure door for him
leading from the public lobby area into the general secretarial area. Det. REMIKER said he was
never told by anybody about the blood being back in the vaulted secure area of the Clerk of
Courts Office nor did he know about it prior to the date the defense made everyone aware of the
blood.
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On 01/10/0'7 ,Inv. WIEGERT had informed myself (Inv. STEIER) to pick up Lt. LENK's, Sgt.
COLBURN's and Det. REMIKER's work schedules and speak with them r"f"."n"" their work
schedule from 10/30/05 through Ill05l05 because the defense for STEVEN AVERy misht
be
inquiring as to where these officers were from r0/30/05 to 1l105/05.
Lt. LENK provided myself (Inv. STEIER) copies of Lt. LENK's, Sgt. COLBURN,s and Det.
REMIKER's work schedules for October and November, 2005. Lt. LENK said he had talked
with his wife and attempted to try to remember where he was and what he was doing the week of
October 30 through November 5, 2005.
On Sunday,10130105, Lt. LENK stated he had no idea where he was but guessed he probably
had gone to church and then after church, watched football that Sunday uft.-oon. Lt. LENK
iNdiCAtEd he did not worK at the MANITOWOC COIINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
on
Sunday, 10130105. Lt. LENK also said when he is on his off duty days, if he is to leave the
house, it is generally with his wife. He and his wife spend most or all of their time together
when not at work.
On Tuesday,11l0ll05, Lt. LENK indicated he had a meeting with ROHER (ph) between 3:00
p.m. and 4:00 p.m. Lt. LENK, as far as researching his schedule and notes, Could not provide
anymore detail as to what happened on 11/01/05.
Lt. LENK does remember being on vacation on 11102105 and looking for a camper trailer with
his wife. Lt. LENK indicated they had been pricing campers in the Appleton and Cleveland
afea.
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Lt. LENK indicates his normal routine after work is to work out, go home, eat, watch TV and
then go to bed. Lt. LENK stated, if after work he was to go some place, it would generally be
with his wife.
On Friday, 11104105, Lt. LENK indicated he was at work from the hours of 7:30 to 3:30 p.m.
On Saturday,11105105, Lt. LENK indicated he was again pricing campers in the Menasha and
Appleton area. Lt. LENK remembers being at a camper dealership, which is approximately one
mile west of 41just off of 441. Lt. LENK indicates around mid morning he received a call from
Det. DAVID REMIKER indicating Lt. LENK should retum to work.
Lt. LENK indicated he has been working for the MANITOWOC COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT for approximately 18 years. Lt. LENK indicated during that time he has never
received the access code for the MANITOWOC COUNTY CLERK OF COURTS OFFICE. Lt.
LENK indicated he had no idea the blood was in STEVEN AVERY's file located in the
MANITOWOC CO{-INTY CLERK OF COURTS OFFICE until DCI Special Agent TOM
FASSBENDER had informed him of it. Lt. LENK also indicated he had no idea the STEVEN
AVERY file was kept in the MANITowoC COUNTY CLERK oF COURTS OFFICE.
Lt. LENK indicates during all his years of service, he has maybe been behind the Clerk of Courts
Office approximately twice. Both times he was asked by the clerk, who opened the secure door
for him, to come inside their general area. Lt. LENK indicates he has not been inside the Clerk
of Courts Office secure dcors for at least three years. Lt. LENK indicated on both occasions, he
was with a clerk or personnel from the Clerk of Courts Office the entire time.
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Sgt. COLBURN indicated that on Sunday,10130105, he worked his shift of 12:00 p.m. to 8:00
p.m. Sgt. COLBURN indicates he can recall where he was because his routine is fairly rigid.
On Sundays, Sgt. COLBURN indicates at 10:30 a.m., he would have left his house and went to
his mother-in-law's house to check on her. Sgt. COLBURN indicates every Sunday, prior to the
start of his shift, he goes over to his mother-in-law's to make sure she is okay. Sgt. COLBURN
says he would leave her house about 77:45 a.m. to go to work.
On Monday,I0l31l05, Sgt. COLBURN indicated he had worked a nine and one-half hour
workday and was done around 2118 hours. Sgt. COLBURN indicated he would generally go
home after his shift is over and watch TV, fall asleep on the couch and then go to bed.
On Tuesday,Ill0ll05, Sgt. COLBURN indicated he had worked eight hours. Sgt. COLBURN
indicated generally he would have retumed home or he would have watched TV and then have
gone to bed.
On Wednesday, 11102105, Sgt. COLBURN indicated he had worked an eight hour shift
concluding his shift at2000 hours.
On Thursday,11103105, Sgt. COLBURN indicated he had started at 11:45 a.m. where he had
worked his eight hour shift, plus three hours of overtime, assisting Calumet County Inv. JOHN
DEDERING in speaking to the ZIPPERERS about TERESA HALBACH. Sgt. COLBURN also
remembers he was called to go check the AVERY residence. Sgt. COLBURN indicated he had
concluded his shift around 2250 hours.
On Friday, lll04l05, Sgt. COLBURN indicated he was off. He could not recall what he had
done on his offday.
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On Saturday,11105105, Sgt. COLBURN indicates he had worked seven hours when he was
called in to assist in a missing person's case, the missing person's case of TERESA HALBACH.
He had worked until 11:00 p.m. on I 1/05/05.
Sgt' COLBURN indicates he has been with the MANITOWOC COUNTY SHERIFF,S
DEPARTMENT for approximately 16 years. Sgt. COLBURN indicated he has been behind the
Clerk of Courts Office he believed twice in his 16 years of service. Sgt. COLBURN indicated
he
believed the last time he was behind the secure doors of the Clerk of Courts Office was in 2006.
Sgt. COLBURN indicated he has no code to enter the Clerk of Courts Office secure door and
both times was let in by a clerk or personnel from the MANITOWOC COUNTY CLERK OF
COURTS OFFICE and was asked to come inside the general area. Sgt. COLBURN had no idea
the STEVEN AVERY case file was located in the Clerk of Courts Office nor did Sgt.
COLBURN know that there was blood kept in the STEVEN AVERY file in the Clerk of Courts
Office. Sgt. COLBURN indicated he has never received the code for the Clerk of Courts Office
secure door.
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TACKES indicated he had been employed for the MANITOWOC COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT for 22 years. TACKES indicates he does enter the secure door of the
MANITOWOC COLTNTY CLERK OF COURTS OFFICE approximately every day to hand the
Clerk of Courts personnel jail rosters, bail money, and lock up lists.
TACKES indicates he mainly speaks with STACY or MARY JO, two employees of the Clerk of
Courts Office, when entering into the secure portion of the Clerk of Courls Office. TACKES
indicates he was not aware the STEVEN AVERY file was in the Clerk of Courts Office.
TACKES was also not aware the blood vial was in the STEVEN AVERY file. TACKES
indicates he has been behind or in the area of the files in the vaulted area once. TACKES
indicates in1999, TACKES gave the S.W.A.T. for MANITOWOC COLINTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT a tour of the Clerk of Courts Office and the vaulted area for the officers to
observe. TACKES indicated only the two bailiffs have the code for the Clerk of Courts Office
from the MANITOWOC COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. TACKES indicated the code
has changed three times since he has been a Manitowoc County bailiff. TACKES has given the
code to BILL BECK (ph), a deputy inspector of Support Services, in 2001 to be placed on file
for the Emergency Response Team. TACKES indicated the code has changed twice since 2001
when TACKES gave Deputy BILL BECK the code.
I also spoke with JAMES RIDDLE, a MANITOWOC COLINTY SHERIFF'S Deputy, who is
currently the bailiff for Manitowoc County. RIDDLE has been employed with the
MANITOWOC COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT for eight years and has been a bailiff
for four years. During his time as bailiff, RIDDLE indicates the code has changed twice.
RIDDLE indicates every day he delivers the jail roster, bail money and paperwork through the
window and does not go in unless requested by Clerk of Courts Office personnel. RIDDLE
indicated he has never gone back by the vaulted section and has never given the code to any
other individual. RIDDLE indicates he has seen troopers in the general area behind the secure
door preparing for traffic court with MANITOWOC COI-INTY CLERK OF COURTS BRENDA
SMITH (ph). RIDDLE does indicate, however, this is always in the general area. RIDDLE
indicated GARY MARZEKI (ph), BRIAN EISENBENER (ph) and BOB BONIN (ph) are the
police officers he has seen in behind the secure door.
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Both TACKES and RIDDLE indicate they have never seen Lt. LENK, Sgt. COLBURN or Det.
REMIKER behind the secure door of the MANITOWOC COLINTY CLERK OF COURTS
OFFICE.
RIDDLE also indicated he was not aware a vial of blood was being kept in the STEVEN
AVERY file. RIDDLE was not aware of the vial being in the MANITOWOC COLTNTY
CLERK OF COURTS OFFICE.
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On Tuesday,01109107, at 1400 hours, I (DEDERING) did make contact with the following
individuai at KOLOSSO TOYOTA, Wisconsin Avenue, Appleton, WI:
DOUGLAS D. DOBBERSTEIN
DOB 02113166
3006 Woodridge
Oshkosh, WI 54904
Telephone number: 920-237 -0618
I questioned DOBBERSTEIN regarding whether the rear seats in a 1994 Toyota RAV4 can be
removed or folded in any way. DOBBERSTEIN indicated the rear seats cannot be removed but
they can be "tumbled forward." He indicated if you fold the seatback flat onto the seating
cushion of the tear seat, and then manipulate another lever, the seats "tumble forward." This
puts the seat in a position where the seat is doubled over and the folded seat then rests against the
back of the front seats.
Investigation continues.
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On the following dates and times, I did contact the following AVERY defense witnesses
regarding their possible testimony in the upcoming AVERY trial:
o 0lll2l07 at 1030 hours, ANGENETTE LEVY, reporter, WFRV TV. LEVY advised me
she had been contacted by the defense and was advised she may be needed for rebuttal in
the event the prosecution does not stipulate to statements made about not having any
blood evidence. She stated she will be asked to testify to the fact that footage aired by
WFRV TV is not doctored or edited.
o 01117107 at 1630 hours, KIM J. DUCAT, l2l2Hawthorne Street, Two Rivers, WI.
DUCAT advised me she had called in a tip to TWO RIVERS POLICE DEPARTMENT
the day TERESA's truck was located. She indicated she gave someone at TWO RIVERS
POLICE DEPARTMENT the tip of looking in the "incinerator." She stated she grew up
with STEVEN AVERY and personally believes we are "barking up the wrong tree." She
then went on to indicate he was in prison for 18 years and she does not really know how
this might have changed him. She stated she did talk to "STEVE's investigator" about
this matter.
o 01/18107 at 1445 hours, MEGGAN M. CROLL. CROLL stated she cannot think of any
reason why she would be subpoenaed by the defense regarding this matter. She stated
she was TERESA's best friend in college as well as a roommate. She has not been
spoken to by the defense about this matter. She stated she learned of TERESA's
disappearance through friends who had called her. She stated she was not in the State of
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Wisconsin when TERESA went missing. CROLL preferred not to dir,ulge any
information concernins her current address.
Investigation continues.
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Inv. BALDWIN and I met THOMAS BRUECHERT at the residence of 820 Redfin Court,
Manitowoc, Manitowoc County. THOMAS BRUECHERT indicated he was waiting for
investigators to speak with him about the incident. BRUECHERT stated he was given a ride by
ROGER RADUENZ in ROGER RADUENZ's white van when RADUENZ informed
BRUECHERT of the storyhe had told the MANITOWOC COI_INTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT. BRUECHERT stated he had met ROGER RADUENZ at the SALVATION
ARMY in the City of Green Bay. RADUENZ took BRUECHERT for a ride in his van and
while riding with RADUENZ in his van, told him the story that RADUENZ and STEVEN
AVERY were in the same prison. BRUECHERT did not know which prison RADUENZ was
referring to. BRUECHERT said RADUENZ stated the inmates at the prison were mad at
STEVEN AVERY. BRUECHERT indicated the blood was stolen by the inmates and given to
RADUENZ along with very small cameras. This was used to set up STEVEN AVERY for the
murder of TERESA HALBACH. BRUECHERT was unclear how the miniature oameras were
used in the setup of STEVEN AVERY, but indicated they make very small cameras, which were
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given along with the blood, to ROGER RADUENZ when he left the prison. BRUECHERT
indicated ROGER RADUENZ was a very dangerous man. RADUENZ would watch the back
way to STEVEN AVERY's property and when STEVEN AVERY would leave is when ROGER
RADUENZ would move in and set up STEVEN AVERY.
BRUECHERT contradicted himself by indicating that state inmates have a code. When asked
further about the code, BRUECHERT stated RADUENZ, being a state inmate, would have a
code like a code of silence and would not speak about this to anyone other than to other inmates
about what had taken place. BRUECHERT stated, however, RADUENZ had confided in him
inside RADUENZ's van.
BRUECHERT was asked when the conversation had taken place inside the van between himself
and RADUENZ. BRUECHERT estimated it to be a warrn day and told investigators he believed
September, 2005. Inv. STEIER informed BREUCHERT that TERESA HALBACH had not
been killed until later that year and was still alive in September,2005. BRUECHERT then
indicated he thought it was in the fall or December of 2006.
BRUECHERT indicated he was scared of RADUENZ who is always known to have a knife or
gun on him. BRUECHERT indicated he was so scared to be in the van, he got out of the van and
stayed at a VILLAGE INN. BRUECHERT indicated RADUENZ was a trucker. BRUECHERT
stated he did not know the whereabouts of ROGER RADUENZ and was tryrng to locate where
he was. BRUECHERT believed ROGER RADUENZ was related to the family who owned the
RADANDT GRAVEL PIT south of the AVERY property. BRUECHERT indicated he had
never been in prison but had spent some time in the WINNEBAGO RESOURCE CENTER
approximately 20 years ago.
The female subject who was present who wished not to be identified, identified only by her first
name of SANDRA, indicated she also knew ROGER RADUENZ. She indicated she contacted
her son, TRAVIS LEMAY (ph), approximately 32 years of age, by cell phone and asked her son,
TRAVIS, if he knew where RADUENZ was. According to SANDRA, TRAVIS told her over
the phone that ROGER RADUENZ was trouble and THOMAS BRUECHERT should stay away
from him. SANDRA also indicated TRAVIS said he had beaten up ROGER RADUENZ once
and did not like him. SANDRA also indicated TRAVIS stated he has not seen ROGER
RADUENZ since. SANDRA indicated ROGER RADUENZ was never a truck driver but drove
a white panel van, which he drove with stolen goods in the back. SANDRA indicated ROGER
RADUENZ would steal stuff and transport the stolen items in his van. She described it as a
white moving truck like a U-haul type.
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Roger R. RaduenzoMlW
DOB tu09t42
1325 N. 8th Street, #121
Manitowoc, WI 54220
No Phone
on Friday, 01126107,I (lnv. STEIER), along with Inv. wENDy BALDWIN, both of the
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, did interview ROGER R. RADUENZ.
M/W, DOB 11109142, at his apartment complex of 1325 N. 8th Street, Manitowoc, WI.
Investigators identified themselves as from the CALUMET COLINTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT and informed RADUENZ they were investigating the TERESA HALBACH
murder. RADUENZ indicated he had nothing to say. Inv. STEIER informed RADUENZ an
individual, who he had given a ride in his van, had told investigators a story. RADUENZ
remembered the individual, describing him as the guy from Two Rivers. RADUENZ also
indicated the guy was always in jail.
RADUENZ was asked if he knew STEVEN AVERY. RADUENZ replied he only knew him
from the junkyard.
RADUENZ was asked if he was ever in prison with STEVEN AVERY. RADUENZ indicated
he probably was in prison at the same time as STEVEN AVERY but never had contact with him.
RADUENZ indicated no one had ever given him anything to take out of prison nor had anyone
given him blood to take out of prison. RADUENZ indicated he was out of prison before
anything like that had ever happened. RADUENZ stated he was familiar with the story Inv.
STEIER began to explain to him (the story of prison inmates smuggling STEVEN AVERY's
blood out of the prison). RADUENZ denied having any mutual acquaintances between himself
and STEVEN AVERY while in prison.
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RADUENZ denied ever being aware of any blood from STEVEN AVERY while he was in the
MANITOWOC COTINTY JAIL or while STEVEN was in prison. RADUENZ indicated he was
not aware about it and DNA was not even talked about back then. RADUENZ denied telline a
story about STEVEN AVERY's blood to THOMAS BRUECHERT.
RADUENZ also denied ever having met or having contact with TERESA HALBACH.
RADUENZ indicated THOMAS BRUECHERT had probably told the story to get ROGER
RADUENZ in trouble.
RADUENZ did recall giving THOMAS BRUECHERT a ride in the winter of 2005.
RADUENZ stated in the fall of 2005, he was a truck driver for DEDICATED SYSTEMS.
RADUENZ indicated he was an over the road truck driver and was never in the area. He
indicated his truck driving would take him to Texas, Florida, Louisiana and Atlanta. RADUENZ
indicated when he did retum from his truck driving routes, he was only in the area one or two
days and he would be gone again with an over the road delivery. RADUENZ indicated he lived
in his truck semi trailer at the time he worked for DEDICATED SYSTEMS. RADUENZ
indicated he did not have a home address, only a P.O. box at the time. RADUENZ indicated he
did have all his log books to show where he was back in 2005. When Inv. STEIER asked to see
his log books in his apartment, and asked if the log books were in his apartment, RADUENZ
indicated he did not want to answer that because they would probably get stolen now.
Inv. STEIER then showed RADUENZ his badge and produced for RADUENZ a photo ID of a
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT employee as well as a WI Driver License.
RADUENZ then indicated he was okay in believing I worked for law enforcement.
RADUENZ was again asked if he had told the story to THOMAS BRUECHERT of how he
smuggled STEVEN AVERY's blood out of prison. RADUENZ again denied the implication
that he was involved in TERESA HALBACH's murder or framing STEVEN AVERY.
RADUENZ indicated he would not have been asked by prison inmates to help carry blood out
because he was friendly with the guards. RADUENZ indicated his being on the good side of the
prison guards allowed him to work with tools and do maintenance. RADUENZ indicated he
would never do anything like that to start with because it would break his trust with the guards
and he would not have been allowed to use the tools in the maintenance position.
RADUENZ indicated the story was a lie and THOMAS BRUECHERT was a liar. RADUENZ
indicated BRUECHERT had asked him for $20.00 durins the time he had siven him a ride in the
fall of 2005.
RADUENZ indicated he did not know TERESA HALBACH and he had not killed TERESA
HALBACH. RADUENZindicated he had been at the AVERY'S SALVAGE YARD looking
for parts prior to TERESA HALBACH's disappearance. RADUENZ stated he hung around with
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AL AVERY but did not hang around with nor was he friends with STEVEN AVERY or any of
his brothers. RADUENZ indicated the only thing he had to do with the AVERYS was on a
previous occasion he had gotten parts from the AVERY'S SALVAGE YARD. That was the
only thing he had in common with STEVEN AVERY.
RADUENZ indicated the last time he had been to the AVERY'S SALVAGE YARD, he had
looked for a power steering pump for his van. He indicated the AVERY brothers were too busy
to wait on him. He did find a van, however, he did not purchase the power steering pump from
the AVERY'S SALVAGE YARD. RADUENZindicatedhe believes the last time he had been
at the AVERY'S SALVAGE YARD, which was to buy the power steering pump, would have
been in September, 2005.
RADUENZ was asked by investigators if he had ever helped a stranded motorist on I43.
RADUENZ indicated he could recall helping a stranded Sheboygan motorist in a canteen truck.
RADUENZ was asked if he had ever given TERESA HALBACH a ride. RADUENZ indicated
not that he remembered. RADUENZ was asked if he knew what TERESA HALBACH looked
like. RADUENZ indicated he had seen a picture of her in the paper. RADUENZ stated he still
would not be sure if he had given her a ride because of the way women can change their hair.
RADUENZ indicated there was a time when he worked out in Washington State for a
MANPOWER COMPANY. RADUENZ indicated there were two girls that worked for
MANPOWER with two different names. RADUENZ indicated they turned out to be the same
individual. RADUENZ then indicated the woman had changed her name three times but was the
same woman just using three different names. RADUENZ indicated he had gone to this place
too many times and had noticed this female using multiple names. RADUENZ then indicated
that if Inv. BALDWIN were to shave her head, he would not recognizeher. RADUENZ
indicated a lot of blacks do that now, they have their hair up and the next time you see them in
the same spot they are bald.
RADUENZ indicated he had never picked up a white female on I43 who was a stranded motorist
or given assistance to a white female. RADUENZ indicated he did not kill TERESA
HALBACH and there would not be any reason for him to do that. RADUENZ also denied
taking TERESA HALBACH's body and placing it by STEVEN AVERY's trailer in an attempt
to frame STEVEN AVERY. RADUENZ also indicated he did not take any of STEVEN
AVERY's blood and place it on the AVERY compound in an attempt to frame STEVEN
AVERY. RADUENZ theorized that someone with motive would have done the murder.
RADUENZ lacked motive.
RADUENZ indicated he did not need a business card from Inv. STEIER because he knew that
he was a police officer and if he had any information, he could call the MANITOWOC
COLINTY SHERIFF,S DEPARTMENT oT the CALUMET COI.INTY SHERIFF,S
DEPARTMENT.
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The ROGER RADUENZ interview was recorded. The recording CD was placed into evidence.
As investigators were leaving the apartment complex, Inv. STEIER did notice a white van with
WI registration of 626-JNP. A vehicle registration check of the van listed to a ROGER
RADUENZ. Inv. STEIER and Inv. BALDWIN were able to look through the numerous van
windows into the interior of the vehicle. Inv. STEIER and Inv. BALDWIN did not observe any
dried bloodstains or any substance that would appear to be bloodlike.
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I compared the correction facilities where STEVEN AVERY and RoGER RADUENZ were
located during their time of incarceration. In comparing the locations, ROGER RADUENZ
and
STEVEN AVERY were not incarcerated in the same facility at the same time.
On04ll8/91, RADUENZ was again at DODGE RECEPTION until 0611319l when he retumed
to WAUPTIN PROPER until 08/02 193. He was moved KETTLE MORAINE INSTITUTION
until12115198 at which time he was released.
STEVEN A. AVERY's records of the location of his incarceration show 1ll2gl82 DODGE
RECEPTION. He was moved out for a court appearance on 12122182 and returne d on l2l23lg2
to DODGE RECEPTION. He stayed at DODGE RECEPTION until 01128183 where he moved
to KETTLE MORAINE. on06121183, he was moved to WCCS-SB pOwERS where he stayed
until 08/12183 when he was released.
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Eugene A. Barth
DOB 03t05t47
4025 Waldo Blvd.
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone numtrer: 920-682-2623
EUGENE A. BARTH
DOB 03105147
4025 Waldo Blvd.
Manitowoc,WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-682-2623
BARTH is the stepfather of JODI STACHOWSKI, previously mentioned in this incident. Inv.
WIEGERT had received a telephone call from STACHOWSKI indicating her stepfather may
have some information regarding goings on at AVERY auto salvage area on 10/31/05.
According to BARTH, TRICE had talked about a female who had gone to the AVERYS for
some reason, possibly to pick up parts for a vehicle, a friend, or some children. According to
BARTH, TRICE had made the comment to him that, "They were out there and there was more
going on than was coming out."
BARTH did advise us TRICE was aware of the fact that JODI STACHOWSKI was living with
STEVEN AVERY at the time this discussion took place.
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Investigation continues.
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Nicole L. Essert
DOB l0tr6t77
3130 Cedar Heights Drive
Two Rivers. WI 54241
Telephone number: 920-553-3030
Janet S. Galien
DOB 06t24t6s
1203 Woodview Drive
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-683-9662
Roberta J. Brice
DOB 02t25t64
4715 CTH B
Manitowoco WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-683-3386
Chrystal L. Myer
DOB 02t2U68
1710 Whitewater Drive
Manitowoc. WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-686-0829
Margaret C. Badini
DOB 07/3u58
2635 College Street
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-682-5450
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
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Brenda L. Smith
DOB tu22t63
1510 23'd Street
Two Rivers, WI 54241
Telephone number: 920-553-2094
Lynn M. Dvorak
DOB 0u20t54
6027 Fischerville Rd.
Whitelaw, Wl 54247
Telephone number: 920-755-4109
Stacey L. Wallender
DOB r0t25t68
2124 Rolling Hills Drive
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-758-3422
Teresa J. Shebesta
DOB tu09ts7
3908 Menasha Avenue
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-769-0218
Daniel A. Whitney
DOB 08t05t64
919 Summit
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-683-9694
Margaret L. Franzen
DOB 07t2st50
2311 Jackson Street
Two Rivers, WI 54241
Telephone number: 920-793-1492
Mary J. Murray
DOB 09/03t60
955 N.22nd Street
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-683-2291
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
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At approximately 0945 hours, Special Agent SKORLINSKI and myself did speak with the
following individual:
JANET M. BONIN
DOB 01t24t61
3409 Fleet Crest Ct.
Manitowoc,WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-683 -2262
BONIN is a Deputy Clerk of Circuit Court. She stated to her knowledge there are l6 people in
her office that have the cipher combination as well as a key to the office. She indicated anyone
with a key to the Clerk of Courts Office can access the main door to the office and then either
use a cipher combination or their key to enter the secure portion (the vaulted area). She further
indicated anyone who has a key can get into the building after hours and can access the building
through the southeast entrance. Keys for other departments will allow access to the buildins bu1
will not allow access to the Clerk of Courts main office.
BONIN indicated she believed the Public Works Department for Manitowoc County would have
a listing of who actually has keys.
We subsequently requested a listing of the keys from that department and then retumed to the
Clerk of Courts Office. We were advised the following individuals were people who would have
had a key to the Clerk of Courts outer office and a cipher combination to the entrance into the
vault area:
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In addition, we were advised that the bailiffs for the sheriff s department would have master keys
to the office. We were further advised that Judge WILLIS and his court reporter, DIANE
TESHENECK, and his legal assistant, ROBERTA MARCELLE, as well ur Jrrdg" DEETS and
his staff and Judge FOX and his staff, would also have the combination to the cipher lock for
access to the vault portion.
It was learned that the vault portion of the Clerk of Courts could be accessed through the law
library, which is immediately undemeath the Clerk of Courts Office. The law library has a
different cipher lock code than the cipher lock on the Clerk of Courts access to the vault.
Additionally, there is a door that is always secured that bars anyone from entering the vault
portion through the law library. It should be noted, however, anyone who has a master key or a
Clerk of Courts access door key can use the entrance from the law library into the vault portion
of the Clerk of Courts. Keys issued for other departments cannot access the vault, as their kev
will not unlock the access door.
Special Agent SKORLINSKI and myself did interview the following individuals between the
hours of 1040 and 1100 concerning this matter:
NICOLE L. ESSERT
DOB 10n6t77
3130 Cedar Heights Drive
Two Rivers,Wl 54241
Telephone number: 920-553-3030
CALUMET COUNTY SH ERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
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JANET S. GALIEN
DOB 06t24t65
1203 Woodview Drive
Manitowoc,Wl 54220
Telephone number: 920-683-9662
ROBERTA J. BRICE
DOB 02t2st64
4715 CTH B
Manitowoc,WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-683-3386
CHRYSTAL L. MYER
DOB 02t2v68
1710 Whitewater Drive
Manitowoc,WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-686-0829
MARGARET C. BADINI
DOB 07131i58
2635 College Street
Manitowoc,WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-682-5450
BRENDA L. SMITH
DOB 11t22t63
1510 23'd Street
Two Rivers,Wl 54241
Telephone number: 920-553-2094
L\'NN M. DVORAK
DOB 01t20t54
6027 Fischerville Rd.
Whitelaw, WI 54247
Telephone number: 920-7 55-4109
STACEY L. WALLENDER
DOB 10t25t68
2124 Rolling Hills Drive
Manitowoc,WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-7 58-3422
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
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TERESA J. SHEBESTA
DOB 11t09t57
3908 Menasha Avenue
Manitowoc,WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-7 69-0218
DANIEL A. WHITNEY
DOB 08/0s/64
919 Summit
Manitowoc,WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-683-9694
MARGARET L. FRANZEN
DOB 07t25t50
231 1 Jackson Street
Two Rivers,WI 54241
Telephone number: 920-7 93-1492
MARY J. MURRAY
DOB 09/03/60
955 N. 22nd Street
Manitowoc,WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-683 -2291
o Have you ever provided either your key to the Clerk of Courts Office or the cipher lock
combination to either Lt. JAMES LENK or sgt. ANDREW COLBURN ortne
MANITOWOC COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT?
o Has either of those individuals ever asked you to provide either the key or the cipher lock
combination?
Each of the individuals interviewed indicated they had never provided either the cipher lock
combination or their key to either Lt. LENK or Sgt. COLBURN.
Between the hours of 1114 and 7126, Special Agent SKORLINSKI and myself did interview the
following individuals regarding this matter:
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Both these individuals are employed as bailiffs with the MANITOWOC COUNTY SHERIFF,S
DEPARTMENT.
Both these individuals have master keys that will allow them access to the Clerk of Courts
outer
door and the secure door to the vault area. Additionally, both these individuals know the
cipher
code to the vault door. Both individuals indicate they know Lt. LENK and Sgt. COLBURN
and
both individuals indicated they had never provided the master key or the cipher code to either Lt.
LENK or Sgt. COLBURN. Additionally, both individuals stated neither I-i. I.pNf nor Sgt.
COLBURN had ever asked them to provide either the cipher combination or the key.
Additionally, TACKES indicated he did not know there was anyone at the sheriff s department
who has either a master key or a Clerk of Courts key that would allow access to the Clerk of
Courts Office and he does not know of anyone who knows the combination to the Clerk of
Courts cipher lock system.
Investigation continues.
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Robert C. Hermann
Manitowoc County Sheriff
David J. Dvorak
DOB 03t07t47
An employee of the Manitowoc County Sheirffs Department
DOCUMENTSGENERATED: None
HERMANN indicated to his knowledge there is no master key that is in the possession of the
sheriff s department. He states in addition to his bailiffs, DAVID DVORAK has a master key.
HERMANN's records indicate RIDDLE has master key #8 and TACKES has master key #3. He
believes DAVID DVORAK has master key #7.
During the time we were interviewing Sheriff HERMANN, a subject did present himself in
Sheriff HERMANN's office identified as follows:
JOHN F. SCHWARZENBART
DOB 01t28t59
1601 Emmet Street
Two Rivers,WI 54247
Telephone number: 920-794-8390
SCHWARZENBART states he has a grand master key and has master key #2.
SCHWARZENBART is assigned building maintenance within the sheriff s department and
courthouse.
At 1308 hours, the following individual did present himself in Sheriff HERMANN's office:
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
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DAVID J. DVORAK
DOB 03t07t47
An employee of the MANITowoc coLrNTy SHERIFF,S DEPARTMENT
Investigation continues.
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Donna M. Peters
DOB 04t03t49
15932 Harpts Lake
Mishicot, Wl S4Z2B
Telephone number: 920-776-1570
DONNA M. PETERS
DOB 04t03t49
15932 Harpts Lake Rd.
Mishicot, WI 54228
Telephone number: 920-77 6-1570
DONNA PETERS is employed as a maintenance custodian for Manitowoc County. She states
she has master key #Ml' She states she does not know the cipher combination that allows
access
into the secure portion of the Clerk of Courts Office. She states she does know Lt. LENK and
Sgt. COLBURN. She states she has never provided her master key to Lt. LENK or Sgt.
COLBURN and further, they have never asked her for the key.
Investigation continues.
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TYPE OF ACTIVITY: Interview of Support Personnel for Judges Fox, Deets and
Willis
Investigation continues.
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Kurt J. Frasier
DOB 03t24t61
146 Clinton Street
North Fond du Lac, WI 54935
Telephone number: 920-929-8904
On Friday, 02102107, at approximately 1100 hours, the following individual did present himself
at the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT indicating he possibly had
knowledge regarding the STEVEN AVERY incident:
KURT J. FRASIER
DOB 03t24t61
146 Clinton Street
North Fond du Lac, WI 54937
Telephone number: 920-929-8804
FRASIER stated he did not file an incident report on this matter at the time it occurred.
FRASIER did provide me with the following one page written statement:
"I Kurt J. Frasier aformer correctional fficerfor the State of Wi. worked at Fox Lake
Correctional and at times performed duties as a Housing fJnit Sgt. Wite performing
duties one evening as a Housing Unit Sgt., I was able to listen in on a conyersation
between inmate Avery and another inmate speaking in the hallway behind sgts. ffice.
The bits of the conversation that I could make out were Questions about using some type
of combustable & the heat needed to destroy evidence/DNA. At the time I believed them
to be discussing a T.V. crime Investigation show. The date & time is unclear but I believe
it to be just after inmate Avery found out he was to soon be released. "
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
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After receiving the Order, I did go to the MANITOWOC COLINTY CLERK OF COURTS
OFFICE and provided them with the original copy of the Order. It should be noted a certified
copy of the original was provided to me.
At 10:33 a.m., the safe in the Clerk of Courts Office was opened by ROBERTA BRICE of the
MANITOWOC COTINTY CLERK OF COURTS OFFICE. At that time, I did apply two layers
of gloves and retrieved the white cardboard box from the safe. I did a brief examination of the
white cardboard box. It appeared as though the seals, which I had attached to the box with my
initials on it, were still intact. The box was then placed inside a new paper bag and sealed with
evidence tape and initialed by myself.
I then transported the box back to the CALUMET COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
Upon arrival at the sheriff s department, I did meet with Deputy JEREMY HAWKINS in the
evidence receiving room. At that time, I did open the seal on the cardboard box. The Styrofoam
container inside the cardboard box was then removed. It should be noted the seals, which I had
applied to the Styrofoam container, still appeared to be intact. I then took a razor blade and
opened my seal on the Styrofoam container.
It should be noted prior to handling the white cardboard box and the Styrofoam container, I
applied two sets of new gloves to my hands.
After opening the Styrofoam container, I did remove the purple top blood vial from the
container. The purple top blood vial appeared to be in the same condition as I had seen it last.
That purple top blood vial was then placed into a glass container with foam to secure it. That
glass container was then placed into another plastic container again with foam. The red plastic
container was then closed and sealed with evidence tape and my initials were applied. The glass
vial was placed under Property Tag #9803.
I then took the Styrofoam container, again while wearing gloves, and placed it into a separate
paper bag and placed it under Property Tag#9804. I also took the white cardboard box and
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placed it in a separate paper bag and placed it under Property Tag #9805.
The red container
containing the blood was then kept in my custody and takenintolhe investigator,s
office.
It should be noted the removal of the items in the evidence receiving room had occurred
at
approximately I 1:30 a.m. on 02105107 . The red container containing the vial of blood
was
resealed by myself at 1 1:36 a.m. on 02105107 .
At approximately 12:30 p.m., I did meet in my office with FBI Agent RONALD HAMMEN. At
that time, I turned over Property Tag #9803, the vial of blood, to RONALD HAMMEN
from the
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION. RONALD did sign the Calumet County
Fvidence/Property Custody Document. RONALD also provid"d
document.
-" with a copy of his evidence
I did request that Deputy HAWKINS fingerprint Property Tag#9804 and #9805. Both of those
items were released to the custody of Deputy HAWKINS.
Investigation continues.
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Investigation continues.
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Lynn M. Zigmunt
DOB 06/17/58
Nlanitowoc Countl Courthouse
1010 S. 8'n Street
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-6g3_4030
LYNN M. ZIGMUNT
DOB 06t17t58
1010 S. 8th Street
Manitowoc,WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-693 -4030
Investigation continues.
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David L. Trice
DOB 09/19/51
Columbia Correctional Institution
Portage, WI 53901
The reason for our interview with TRICE was to determine the accuracy of statements provided
by EUGENE BARTH on 01130t07.
TRICE stated he never mentioned anything to anyone about knowing people at the AVERy
property on 1 0i 3 1 /05. He stated as a child, he purchased parts from AL AVERY but he
has not
been to the auto salvage in quite a few years.
I asked TRICE if he knew either individual involved in the hatchet attack in Manitowoc during
the same time period TERESA HALBACH's RAV4 was discovered on the AVERy propertyl
He stated he did not know either of the individuals involved in this matter.
TRICE continued to maintain the fact that he had no knowledge of anyone being at the AVERy
property and indicated he was curious as to who would have provided us with any information
along these lines. I ultimately did reveal the fact we had spoken with EUGENE BARTH
regarding this matter.
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Both items were signed over and released to GERALD MULLEN of the FBI.
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At approximately 9:30 a.m., the blue storage unit where the victim,s RAV4
is located was
opened by myself. Photographs of the RAV4 were taken.
At approximately 9:38 a.m., control swabs of the area were taken. The control
swabs were
placed into a cardboard box for drying purposes.
At approximately 9:43 a.m., control swabs of the area were taken. The control
swabs were
placed into a box for drying.
During the time the control swabs were taken, universal precautions
were conducted wearing
safety glasses, face mask, biohazardous suit and also gloves. Glove
changes were conducted
prior to the new areas being swabbed on all three itefiis.
The blue storage area containing the RAV4 was then relocked. The
control swabs taken from
the CD case were placed under Property Tag #9800. The control swabs
taken by the metal rear
door passenger area were placed under Property Tag #9801 and the *rtr"f
r-"Us taken by the
ignition switch dashboard are under Property tag*bsOz. The control swabs,
along with
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After the prints were lifted, the white cardboard box was placed into
its paper bag and resealed.
At approximately 0848 hours, the partial print on the writing side bottom
right on the evidence
tape was lifted.
At approximately 0905 hours, I went over the outer part of the box with no writing
on again. A
partial print was located on a white portion of the tape. At this time the print was
",rid.n."
photographed and lifted. After the prints were lifted, the white cardboard box was sprayed with
ninhydrin for any possible prints that were not located with the magnetic
fingerprint powder.
Deputy Jeremy Hawkins
Calumet Co. Sheriffls Dept.
JH/bds
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Mark D. Belaban
DOB 08/16/58
917 Sarah Miles Lane
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 920_629_0999
MARK D. BELABAN
DOB 08/16158
917 Sarah Miles Lane
Manitowoc,WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-629-0999
Investigation continues.
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Allen M. Thielen
DOB tr/03/42
2206 Clark Street
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 920_694_0692
Cell phone number: 920_629-6203
DOCUMENTSGENERATED: None
ALLEN M. THIELEN
DOB 11t03/42
2206 Clark Street
Manitowoc,WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-694-0692
Cell phone number: 920-629-6203
Investigation continues.
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Joyce C. Vnuk
DOB 02t2r/39
4903 Nicyssa Lane
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 920_6g2_6034
JOYCE C. VNUK
DOB 02t21t39
4903 Nicyssa Lane
Manitowoc,WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-692-6034
I asked \rNUK if anyone had ever asked- hel for her key or the code for the
cipher lock that
would allow access to the vault area of the clerk of courts
office. she stated no one had ever
askedter for the key or the cipher code and if anyone would
have asked her, she would not have
provided them with this.
Investigation continues.
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DOCUMENTSGENERATED: None
Investigation continues.
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Gerard J. Neuser
DOB t2n2/64
Manitowoc Countv
lll0 S. 9th Street
Manitowoc, WI 54220
Telephone number: 920_6g3_40g5
GERARD J. NEUSER
DOB t2t12t64
Assistant Director of public Works
Manitowo.c County
1110 S. 9'n Street
Manitowoc,WI 54220
Telephone number: 920-683-4095
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I did make contact with Lt. JAMES LENK and obtained his fingerprints
p'm' It should be noted I did use gloves for this procedure atro Jiainrow at approximat ely 12:41
ttre itoves away after
obtaining his prints.
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?2!21?2107,
I (Deputy JEREMy HAwKTNS of the cALUMET couNTy
sHERrFF,s
DEPARTMENT) was contacted by Trooper CHRIS BRIDGES
(ph) of the wIScoNSIN
srATE PATROL informing me he was delivering to us a few pieces
of evidence fiom the
DEPARTMENT oF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION,S
OFFICE in Madison.
At approximately 1 814 hours, I received from Trooper BRIDGES
a compact flashcard and also a
Kodak Easy Share 2730 camera. I had Trooper gniocBs
sign the Evidlnce/property custody
Document for the Easy Share camera. upo'receiving
the compact flashcard, an
Evidence/Property custody Document was filled out ior
the compact flashcard and was given
Property Tag #10004- I had Trooper BRIDGES sign
the Evidence/property custody Document
form' I signed the DEPARTMENT oF CRIMINAL TNvBsTIGATIoi{'s
Receipts and made
photocopies of both the Receipt for the compact flashcard
and also the Receip,lr,rr. Kodak
Easy share camera. The originals of the DCI Receipts
were given back to Trooper BRIDGES.
Both the compact flashcard and the Kodak Easy Share camera
were placed into secure storaqe.
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Det. REMIKER did retrieve the two items that Inv. WIEGERT had
discussed with me.
I did inspect the seals on both the items and they appeared to me to be intact.
I did not open the
packages.
I did tTANSPOTI thCSE itEMS bACK tO thE CALUMET COLINTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
ANd
at 1250 hours, I did sign them over to Inv. WIEGERT. The transmittal used
was the
MANITowoc SHERIFF'S transmittal affixed to the box in question.
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TYPE OF ACTIVITy: Contact with Julie Buehler
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Deborah J. Knox
DOB 07t04t56
Principal
Mishicot High School
Telephone number: 920-775-4673
DOCUMENTSGENERATED: One-PageLetter
AVERY at approximately the same time TERESA HALBACH disappeared. Inv. WIEGERT
requested I go to MISHI@I CHOOL for the purpose of interviewing the author of the
letter and possibly regarding this matter.
At i400 hours, Inv. BALDWIN and I did meet with COLLEEN A. TIMM, DOB l7117167,
Superintendent of MISHICOT HIGH SCHOOL. She stated the note that was in her possession
had come through the high school principal.
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u*J
Hey how is it goingT Well I guess a little rough but okay. I hacl just thought of
something. You htow now we were at Steven's? Ancl we hacl all seen that car in the
back. Il/ell Steven could have done it and had someone bring the car and the body too
him and he wouldfinish her. Cause Steven rushed us back to Mishicot & sped olf, Atso
Bline could have went home right after Steven got home because Steven could have had
this all planed out but not knowing we tuere coming & paniked & drove us home. It all
makes sense now*. Cause evetything sexually that happened to Tereasa could have
happened that afternoon. So yeah if you don't understand I can try) to tell you what I
nxean. Well g2g. Love ya XOXO always Rubben P.S. Please write back ASAP"
At 1413 hours, Inv. BALDWIN and I did interview the following individual regarding this
matter:
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Ilrtated, "we all saw lights" behind STEVEN's house and that is why STEVEN went to
check it out.
mtmry::i:il::"VERYSu,,aJ.tatedSTEVENhadpickedlrer
It"dicated she thought the car they were looking for was on some sort of dirt path but that
is all she could remember.
STEVEN took her home about 6:00 p.m., immediately after they were done
looking for the vehicle.
-tated STF\/EN had asked BLAINE to "put something into a car" and as BLAINE
was doing this, Jsaw headlights "flash off." She stated they were standing next to
STEVEN's garage near a gray vehicle when this took place.
-indicated
f tent on to indicate this could have been Friday, immediately before Halloween. She
stated she is 75oh sure that it was a Friday.
#*f.J**y1ff
arong with STEVEN to pick up n., u,'a!as STEVEN
Iufiher indicated she did not believe BARBARA was at home when this had taken place
and BARBARA was possibly at work.
f give me stated she saw the lights in the salvage area at"almost like sunset."
a car color for the
Iould not
vehicle that she saw with its headlights on but befi&d'Tfi-ere were
only two headlights as opposed to four headlights.
f t"dicated she thought this had possibly taken place on a Friday but was not entirely sure.
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Indicated the lights they were talking about were directly of STEVEN and
nAReflllfiler and in an area she described as being betweensouth
STEVEN and BARBARA,s
Jstated tliey went down to the yard to investigate but they found no cars.
tated the vehicle's lights were on, she believed, more than a minute.
She stated tne
lights "looked" like they were in the pit area, but she stated
lights could have been on the RADANDT property.Ilndicated
te was not entirely sure and the
incident took place before Halloween. 2005. tt-t she was sure this
fstated she did not believe that lights being on or moving in the pit area was a normal
occuffence.
lfstated with her father approximately one year agoabout this matter. She
she talked
stated she was going to tell Inv. WIEGERT about this but must have
forgotten. She described
the headlights as being "far but not far" away from where she and
everyone saw them. She gave
a distance approximate as from STEVEN's house to the impound yard
building as an
approximate distance the headlights were away from her.
k1T."o*"ARAJANDAhadactuallynoticedtlreheadlightsandadvisedthe
f"1ce1g11nindicatedshewasnotceftainwhetherthelightswereinthesalvageyardor
on the RADANDT property, but was entirely sure these lights *"." ,""n prior
to l0l3Il05.
me the reason she was coming forward with this now was because she
wtshed to help STEVEN due to the fact her grandmother, DELORES AVERY,
is under a huge
amount of stress with this case.
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on 03/17107 at approximately 8:10 a.m., I (Lt. BRETT BowE of the CALUMET co.
SHERIFF'S DEPT.) examined the tape that was on the jury room door. The tape was the same
tape that I had placed there the night before and the tape was intact. I photographed this and then
allowed Manitowoc Bailiff ROBBIE MARCELLE to open the door to allow the jury to once
again reenter.
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on03ll7l07 at approximately 5:05 p.m., I (Lt. BRETT BowE of the CALUMET co.
SHERIFF'S DEPT.) was once again requested to secure the jury room door with evidence tape.
I initialed this tape, dated it and placed it on the door in the presence of Manitowoc Bailiff
ROBBIE MARCELLE. I then photographed the taped door and left the scene.
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on 03/18107 at approximately 10:49 a.m., I (Lt. BRETT BowE of the CALUMET Co.
SHERIFF'S DEPT.) examined the tape that was on the jury room door. The tape was intact and
my initials and date were still on it from the previous date. I photographed this in the presence of
Manitowoc Bailiff ROBBIE MARCELLE. The door was then opened and Manitowoc Bailiff
ROBBIE MARCELLE entered the room.
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I did sign a receipt for JANET BONIN. JANET also signed a Calumet County Evidence and
Property/Custody Document. The plastic case containing the blood
vial was tiren taken into nLy
custody and secured in the Calumet County short-term
storage locker.
"iid..r..
A copy of the evidence document will be contained in this report.
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Michael J. Kornely
DOB 10t27t49
104 Lilac Avenue
Francis Creek. WI 54214
Telephone number: 920-GB4-7309
On Friday, 04113107, at 1330 hours, I (DEDERING) did interview the following individual
at his
residence conceming this matter:
MICHAEL J. KORNELY
DOB 10t27t49
104 Lllac Avenue
Francis Creek, WI 54214
Telephone number: 920-684-7309
Cell phone number: 920-242-3935
I had been advised KORNELY had been placed on the defense witness list and interviewed
him
for the purpose of leaming what he would testify to.
KORNELY advised me he had not received a Subpoena from the defense as yet and indicated
the only defense representatives he had spoken with were representatives that were assigned
to
this case prior to Counselors FREMGEN and EDELSTEIN.
I asked KORNELY if he had called BRENDAN on Halloween 2005. He stated he had made a
call to BLAINE shortly before 1800 hours on, he believed, l0l3ll05. He did speak with
BRENDAN at this time. BRENDAN advised KORNELY that BLAINE was gone and BLAINE
had left shortly after 1700 hours.
KORNELY indicated BRENDAN was quite animated about BLAINE's appearance for
Halloween. KORNELY indicated he found this unusual as BRENDAN isnot normally very
talkative on the phone. He stated he and BRENDAN spoke for approximately four minutes.
According to KORNELY's recollection, BRENDAN made comments like, "you should have
seen him, he looked scary" referring to BLAINE's appearance for trick-or-treating.
KORNELY indicated he placed this call from Birmingham, Alabama. He stated he was staying
at the SHERIDAN in Birmingham. He stated to the best of his recollection, he placed
this call
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KORNELY advised me BLAINE told him BLAINE was home with BRENDAN
from the time
BRENDAN got off the bus until BLAINE left for trick-or-treating on 10131105.
KORNELy
believes BRENDAN never went over to STEVEN's residence due to
the fact he was with
BLAINE according to BLAINE,s statement.
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Suzanne L. Hagopian
DOB 09/20/59
17 S. Fairchild St.. 3'd Floor
Madison, WI 53703
Work phone number: 608-266-2541
Charles R. Fox
DOB 0U25/53
17 S. Fairchild St., 3.d Floor
Madison. WI 53703
Work phone number: 60g-266-2541
I was asked by Attorney HAGOPIAN if they could see a sealed DNA packet containing
DNA
extraction tubes for the STATE CRIME LAB, Identification System ur pf
and FL. FK and FL
are the bullet fragments that were located in the garuge. I located the sealed
DNA packet, which
was under Property Tag#9601. The DNA packet was still sealed by the
WI STATE CRIME
LAB and was never opened by any individuals- The DNA packet was brought to the attorneys.
Wearing rubber gloves, I opened the DNA packet using a disposable scalpel Attorney
ASKINS
CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
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and Attomey HAGOPIAN viewed the extraction tubes and the control for the
extraction tubes
for items FL and FK. Inv. FoX photographed the extraction tubes.
After the extraction tubes were photographed, they were placed back into the envelope.
I did
apply evidence tape to the envelope within the presenc. of th" defense attorneys
and
investigator. My initials and the date I sealed the envelope was placed on the iape
and envelope.
The envelope was brought back by myself to the secured storage area. The
was placed
back into the freezer I had originally taken the envelope from. ".rrr"lop.
I changed gloves and was asked by Attorney HAGOPIAN to bring out the wooden nightstand
t}pe cabinet under Property Tag #8080, which was the cabinet whire the Toyota key was
located. The cabinet was retrieved from the secured storage area of the evidence room.
I
brought the wooden nightstand to the attorneys to view. The attorneys viewed the wooden
nightstand and Inv. FoX photographed the nightstand from all angles.
After Inv. FoX photographed the nightstand, the nightstand was brought back to the secured
storage areaby myself. The nightstand was placed back onto the sheli from which
the
nightstand was taken from.
The attorneys did not wish to view anymore evidence at that time.
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4l12,I (Sgt. Inv. MARK WTEGERT of the CALUMET
COLTNTY SHERIFF,S
DEPARTMENT) made contact with fbrmer Sheriff
GERALD PAGEL at the request of
DISTRICT ATTORNEY JERILYN DTETZ. Former
SheriffPAGEL advised me that he had
spoken with OSCAR BIELKE in regards
to the iuro, lrru".
oscAR BIELKE was serving as a speciar deputy/bailiff for the AVERy jury.
That was the end of my conversation with former
Sheriff pAGEL.
Sgt. Inv. Mark Wiegert
Calumet Co. Sheriff s Dept.
MWab