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Mythoughtsonselfeducationvs 4points(65%upvoted)
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LatelyIseealotofpeoplemaking
theircaseforselfeducation,someof
thembyabandoningformal
Selfeducation
subscribe 4,523readers
educationintotal.Argumentsare
mostlyformedaroundtheexcessive 4usersherenow
costsofformaleducation(especially Pleaseseeourwikipage.
intheU.S.),notlearninganyreallife /r/Frugallearning
skills,andcurriculanotkeepingup /r/AutoDidact
withthedemandsofemployers.Ive /r/HardScience
evenseenmanifestosaroundthe /r/Education
ideathatpushingformaleducation /r/Unschool
asthemostlogicalpathforeveryone, /r/Homeschool
despitenotallcareersrequiringa
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createdbykellyeddy acommunityfor6years
Itsimportanttobeclearona
definitionofselfeducationhere. MODERATORS messagethemoderators

Thereis,forexample,thelifelong kellyeddy
recalcitrantid
learningwithoutaspecificgoalkind,
Iraneth
andtomeitdoesntmakesenseto selfeducate
comparethattoformaleducation.It bandpitdeviant
anticapitalist
hasnothingtodowiththechoiceof
Maxcactus
eitherformalstudyorselfstudy.If cojoco
youarethetypeforeagerand throwthrowawaytime
continuouslearning,youprobably aboutmoderationteam

pursuebothanyway.
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Theonlykindofselfeducationthatis educationandacareerpath
sensibletocomparetoformal
 education,istheonewhereyoutry
togettheequivalentofadegree
withoutgoingtouniversity,orstudy
exactlythatwhatisneededinorder
toreachaspecificgoal.
Ifyouteachyourselfhowtocode,
learnsomebasicideasaboutdesign,
andmastertheChineselanguage,
youprobablyhaveyourselfavery
fastandefficientwaytobecomea
successfulprogrammer.Thisidea
oftenresonateswithpeople,because
itenforcestheiraversiontoformal
education,anditbolsterstheir
dreamofbeingthedropoutwho
becameamillionaire.Itistruethat
itcanbedone,though,andifyoure
thetypetopullthatoff,self
educationwouldbethewaytogo.
Itallcomesdowntowhatyourgoal
is.TheonethingIadviceagainst,is
goingtouniversityjustbecause
everybodyelsedoes.Youshould
knowwhatyouwanttogetoutof
youreducation,andoutofthat
periodinyourlifeingeneral,before
youcanlookatwhetherselfstudyor
formalwouldbebetterforyou.
Iagreethat,dependingonyourgoal,
formaleducationisnotalways
necessary,butthatdoesntmeanit
isntvaluable.Doyouenjoyacquiring
abroadandsolidunderstandingofa
specificfieldyourepassionateabout?
Dowanttolearnonlythatwhats
neededtoachievesomething?Do
youwanttobefreetotravelthe
world?
Theonethingthatisimpossibleto
overlookisthefactthatyousimply
needadegreeforsomeprofessions.
Imaginethemayhemifadoctor
couldeducatehimself,withoutthe
protectionofaneducational
institutiontovalidatehiscapability.
Youalsohavetotakeyourownlevel
ofdisciplineintoaccount.Itisone < > discussionsinr/selfeducation X
thingtolikereading,itsanotherto
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book,studyit,investigatepartsyou educationandacareerpath
dontunderstand,meditateonit,
 etc.Oneoftheadvantagesofformal
educationisthatitforcesyoutolook
intothingsmoredeeplythanyou
mayinitiallythinknecessary.Youdo
benefitfromlearninghowto
calculateaTvalueinstatisticsin
ordertounderstandasocialtheory
better,eventhoughitdoesntseem
likeitatthetime.Universitycan
teachyoudepthsofknowledgeyou
couldntalwaysreachwithselfstudy,
forexamplebyprovidingyouwith
laboratories,anddiscussionand
guidance.Thestimulusofateacher
andpeersisoneofthemostvaluable
andinfluentialtoolsformaleducation
provides.
Formethedecisionwaseasiera
coupleofyearsagothanitwouldbe
now.Ilovelearning,andIdreamed
ofgoingtouniversitysinceIfound
outaboutitsexistence.Ididntcare
aboutwhetheritwasthemost
efficientwayofstudying,becausefor
meitwasneveraboutachieving
anythingbutknowledgeitself.
Myfeelingsaboutmytimeat
universityaremixed,however.After
mygraduation,IfeltlikeIhadnt
learnedasmuchasIhadhoped.I
wasnottheculturedpersonIhad
alwaysdreamedtobecome.Asa
communicationsciencesbachelor,the
onlyrealgrowthinintellectI
experiencedwasduringmy
extracurricularcoursesinphilosophy,
andIfeltlikeuniversity(and
probablymychoiceinbachelors)had
letmedown.Travelingaddedtomy
changedopiniononformaleducation,
foritshowedmewaysoflearning
abouttheworldIhadnoideawere
possible.Andmostofall,creatinga
structuredprogramofselfstudyhas
givenmealotmoreconfidencein
whatspossibletobeachievedon
yourown.
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 Iam,however,thankfulthatIhad
theopportunitytogotouniversity,
andImverygladIdid.Istillseea
lotofopportunityforgrowth,andI
willprobablypursueaPh.D.
someday.Bothmytravelsandmy
yearsatuniversityhaveshapedme
asanadult,taughtmeaboutlifeand
aboutmyself,andgotmeacquainted
withthefriendsIwouldliketohave
forever.EventhoughImayfeellikeI
havenotreachedmygoalsyet,
universitydidhelpmeshapethose
goalsinthefirstplace.

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[] Peoplespostmodernist 2points1yearago

Wellsaid.Educationiscertainlyselfdriveninoroutoftheclassroom.Ienjoyeduni(andwill
likelybegoingback)butI'velearnedjustasmorethroughindependentstudyandpursuing
myowninterests.
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[] MarkHofffman 2points1yearago

Likeyourarticle.Ithinkselfeducationworksbetterwithformaleducationorafteruniversity.
ForselfeducationalpurposesIusequizzes.Todaytherearemanysitewithquizzes,Ilike
http://stringlearning.com/,becausethereIfoundmanyquizzesonmedicine.
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[] anticapitalist 1points1yearago*

istheonewhereyoutrytogettheequivalentofadegree
Normally,that'sasocialclub.It'swherepeopletrytooutrankeachotherthroughclosed
bureaucracies,obediencetraining,etc.
Idon'twanttheequivalenttothat.Iwantactualknowledge.Actualeducationisabout
knowledge.
Imaginethemayhemifadoctorcouldeducatehimself,withouttheprotectionofan
educationalinstitutiontovalidatehiscapability.
Incorrect.Nobureaucraticobediencetrainingcenterisneeded.
Insteadsomegroup(whichcouldbeaschool,ahospital,orapureexam/testingcompany)
couldofferexamsforknowledgebasedlearning,passing(orhiring)peoplewhoprovedthe
mostknowledge.(ie,notforhandsonsurgerybutnormalknowledgebasedwork.)
Forsomehandsonknowledge(egalotofsurgery)sometypeofonthejobtraining,orhands
onschoolingistheanswer.eg,peoplewhoprovedthemostknowledge(ontheexam
mentioned)couldthenbegivenonthejobtraining&handsonschooling.

Tobeclear:
Alltheknowledgelearnedvialanguageisthesameevenifitcomesfromdifferentsources.
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Liveclassroomsvsvideosofsuch. educationandacareerpath
Expensivetextbooksvsfreepdffiles,
 Onthejobtrainingvscollegejobtraining.etc.
Tobeclear,"knowledgefromlanguage"isnothandsontraining.Althoughthevastmajorityof
handsonworkiseasytolearnyourself.Somehandsontraining(egmanysurgeries)istaught
betterinagroupenvironment.Butthatdoesn'tautomaticallymeanabureaucraticpaytoplay
"collegeeducation."
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