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Opening Questions/Statements by Ahmed Deedat:

Ahmed Deedat: "Did Jesus claim to be God? Did he say,'I'm God'?"


Yes, he claimed to be God, and the Bible has scripture for this. But you have
to remember, Jesus was a man of parables and spoke to people mainly in
parables (Mat. 13:34, Mark 4:34). And you have to believe the whole Bible,
not just the words where Jesus was speaking. You can't pick and choose,
either believe the whole Book or believe none of it.

The Quran commands Christians to judge by the Gospel:

Quran 5:47Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed
therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they
are (no better than) those who rebel.

Thus, when Christians present their beliefs, it makes sense for Muslims to
ask, "Could you show us where the Bible says that?" Christians should
therefore be eager to present evidence from the Gospel, because Muslims
cannot condemn us for doing what the Quran commands. Indeed, since the
Quran affirms not only the Gospel, but also the Torah (Quran 5:43), Muslims
cannot ignore what the Bible says without thereby rebelling against Islam.
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Jesus says he is God:


John 8:56 "(Jesus speaking) Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and
he saw it, and was glad."
John 8:57 "Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and
hast thou seen Abraham?"
John 8:58 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before
Abraham was, I am. (God: Exo. 3:14)"
John 5:18 "Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not
only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making

himself equal with God."

John 14:7 "(Jesus speaking) If ye had known me, ye should have known my
Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him (Col. 1:15,
Heb. 1:3)."
John 14:8 "Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth
(shall satisfy) us."
John 14:9 "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet
hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father
(Col. 1:15, Heb. 1:3); and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?"

The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was saying:


John 10:30 "(Jesus speaking) I and my Father are one."
John 10:31 "Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him."
John 10:32 "Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from
my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?"
John 10:33 "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee
not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself
God."
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The Bible Says Jesus is God:


Isaiah 7:14 "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin
shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel."
Mat. 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and
they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."

1 Timothy 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:


God was manifest in the flesh (Jesus), justified in the Spirit, seen of angels,
preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."

Acts 20:28 "..feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own
blood (Jesus, God cannot die, see John 4:24)."

1 John 3:16 "Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his
life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren."

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the
Word was God."
John 1:14 "And the Word (God) was made flesh (Jesus), and dwelt among us,
(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full
of grace and truth."

Isa. 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of
Peace."

Col. 1:15 "Who (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every
creature:"
Heb. 1:3 "Who (Jesus) being the brightness of his (God's) glory, and the
express image of his person,"

Col.2:9 "For in him (Jesus) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily."
Col. 1:19 "For it pleased the Father that in him (Jesus) should all fulness (of
the Godhead) dwell;"
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Jesus/God/Holy Ghost, These Three Are One:

1. Jesus said that He would send the comforter to us (John 16:7), but He also
said the Father would send the comforter (John 14:26).
2. The Father alone can draw men to God (John 6:44), yet Jesus said He would
draw all men (John 12:32).
3. Jesus will raise up all believers in the last day (John 6:40), yet God the
Father quickens (gives life to) the dead and will raise us up (Romans 4:17; I
Corinthians 6:14).
4. Christ is our sanctifier (Ephesians 5:26), yet the Father sanctifies us (Jude
1).
We can easily understand all of this if we realize that Jesus has a dual nature.
He is both Spirit and flesh, God and man, Father and Son.

Look at the passages in Rev. Chapter 21 which clearly indicates that Jesus is
the Father:
Rev. 21:5: "And he that sat upon the throne (God: See Rev. 20:11,12) said,
Behold, I make all things new." (We are made new by being in Christ: 2 Cor.
5:17).
"And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful." (In Rev.
3:14 and 19:11 Jesus is called "faithful and true").
Rev. 21:6 "And he said unto me, It is done. (compare to John 19:30, "it is
finished") I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. (In the
very next chapter Jesus says this same thing, 22:13-16) I will give unto him
that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." (Jesus gives the water
of life, John 4:10-14; Rev. 7:17).
Rev. 21:7 "He that overcometh (Jesus spoke these words seven times to each
of the seven churches in the beginning of this epistle,
2:7,11,17,26;3:5,12,21.) shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he
shall be my son." Everything in this passage points towards Jesus as the
speaker, yet at the end of the passage we realize that it is God the Father.
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Ahmed Deedat: Did he say,"Worship me"?"

Where did Jesus say, I am only a prophet, dont worship me, in those exact
words? The unreasonable demand for a particular statement, if applied
consistently, should force any muslim to reject their own view! Jesus allows
people to worship him. Further, Jesus never says to not worship him. So, it is
allowed, but not forced.

Jesus received praise:


Mat. 21:15 "And when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things
that he did, and the children crying in the temple, and saying, Hosanna to the
Son of David; they were sore displeased,"
Mat. 21:16 "And said unto him, Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus saith
unto them, Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings
thou hast perfected praise?"
John 20:28 "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."
John 20:29 "Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou
hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."
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Statements by Ahmed Deedat:

Ahmed Deedat: "..book of Revelation was a dream by John."

False, it was a vision, John was awake (Rev. 1:10). He wrote the words of the
book of Revelation as he was seeing them (Rev 1:11), he couldn't do this
while dreaming.

Ahmed Deedat: "..They believe in this thing called the Holy Trinity."

Yes, some do, some don't. There is only ONE God (Deut. 6:4). The bible does
not teach three seperate persons in the Godhead, but, rather, one God who is
manifested in three seperate ways: Father in creation, Son in redemption, &

Holy Ghost in the Church. Oneness Apostolics do not believe in the Trinitarian
doctrine, which was introduced by the Catholic church, who also changed the
baptismal formula for their church from the name of Jesus (Acts 2:38, Acts
4:12, Acts 8:12, Acts 8:16, Acts 10:48, Acts 19:5, Acts 22:16, Rom. 6:3-4, 1
Cor. 1:13, Gal. 3:27, Col. 2:11) to titles "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost" (I can
provide proof of this).

Ahmed Deedat: "83 times in the New Testament Jesus is described as the
'Son of Man'."

This is simple to understand, "Son of Man" refers to his flesh, "Son of God"
refers to his divinity.

Ahmed Deedat: "Muhammed could not read."

For muslims, it depends on who you ask: To an unquestioning Sunni: it is


absolutely true. To a rational questioning Shia: it is absolutely false.
If he did, he wrote the Quran, if he didn't (unlikely), then he had someone
dictate his words.
See: http://radicaltruth.net/index.php/learn/muhammad/32-was-muhammadilliterate
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Ahmed Deedat mentions the Book of Job:

Job 25:4 "How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean
that is born of a woman?"
Job 25:5 "Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not
pure in his sight."
Job 25:6 "How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is
a worm?"

These three verses were NOT from Jobs mouth, but was from one of Job's
three friends, Bildad the Shuhite (Job 25:1).
Job's three friends did not speak things that were right, according to God:

Job 42:7 "And it was so, that after the Lord had spoken these words unto Job,
the Lord said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and
against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right,
as my servant Job hath."
Job 42:8 "Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and
go to my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my
servant Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after
your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my
servant Job."