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I am grateful for thoughtful reaction from many sources. (Ill examine separately
the pushback to my claim that ISIS is within the Islamic tradition.) Shadi Hamid
of the Brookings Institution emphasized that ideology is deeply embedded in
social and political facts, and that ignoring those facts is at least as dangerous as
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ignoring the ideology. I agree completely: ISIS achieved its successes in a hellish
setting where all authority was predatory and nothing was safe; it offered
certainty, sincerity, and the promise of reliability; it did this in ways that were
antithetical to traditional interpretations of Islam (though not quite as
antithetical as some believe).
I suggested that religious ideology was underrated
as an explanatory lensindeed, barely understood
as onebut didnt specify the relative importance of
it versus other factors, specifically the bad
governance, the shifting social mores, the
humiliation of living in lands valued only for their
oil. If I could specify that relative importance, I
would; I find the confidence of others in this regard
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fascinating. But as I wrote in the original essay:
Without acknowledgment of these factors, no explanation of the rise of the
Islamic State could be complete. I set out to write an essay about this groups
ideology, which heretofore has gone underacknowledged, so I dont apologize for
doing just that, though I take to heart Hamids counsel to see these elements as
less separable than they appear.
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J.M. Berger, also of Brookings, argued that the religiosity of the group matters
less than its importance as an identity movement, an aggressive form of defining
membership in a group. Id add that the type of religious ideology ISIS espouses
is remarkably well-adapted for brutal enforcement of group membership. This
type of jihadi-Salafism, unapologetically aimed at purifying Islam through
killing, was obsessively policing its adherents well before the rise of the Islamic
State. Understanding that sect is a way to understand its associated identity.
Andrew Anderson, who studies jihadists, wrote this fine reflection on the context
of the Islamic State's views of warfare, which he places in the medieval period
rather than in the early Islamic conquests to which ISIS considers its project the
rightful heir. He and my colleague Frank Griffel at Yale both point out how ISIS,
which is so keen to emphasize its early-Islamic cred, differs from early Islam in
important and substantive ways.
For an Islamist perspective, Id refer you to http://justpaste.it/jhxc, a quick
reply by a Twitter user who rebuked me gently (thanks) for missteps and ended
with a proposal I dearly hope comes to pass. What is really needed, he wrote,
is a delegation from an Islamist background to visit Islamic State territory and
engage with their leadership and ideologues as well as their common fighters.
He doubted that the specific ideologues I met are the best representatives of the
groups ideology. Until that happens it is hard to truly fathom what this
movement is about and what it truly wants.
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As for the reaction from the Islamic State: I noticed my article tweeted out
multiple times by ISIS supporters, at least once by a fan of the group who noted
nervously that the guy who wrote it must be spying on their tweets. Those whose
comments I saw were delighted that I had taken their ideology seriously and
concluded that ISIS is an Islamic group. Their delight pleases me only because
my intention was to describe the group in terms it recognized and considered
fair. I suppose at least some supporters thought I succeeded, or at least came
closer than the last infidel who tried.
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