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58865-An-Update-On-
Our-Evoluton-!"-#hrs-$homas%p&'4'5(8%vewfull&)*post'4'5(8
The Fourteenth Faction
#hrs $homas ,#$-: .ts actuall" a !t of a stran/e su!ject. . 0now the
whole thn/ wth the alens and the 1elon races s a stran/e enou/h
su!ject to start wth2 !ut the 3ourteenth 3acton s just a lttle !t
further out there2 . thn0 . 4ut ts certanl" somethn/ that the A0ashc
has recorded ver" clearl". And ts had a major mpact on the Unverse
as a whole. 4ut t also partcularl" had an mpact on Earth2 and the
events that have occurred on Earth.
And ths certanl"2 as far as . can trac02 s the or/n of ths concept of
there !en/ 5eptlan races. Ever"one seems to have latched onto6 for
several "ears now2 there7s 5eptlans ever"where2 the 5eptlans are
controlln/ ever"thn/6 what was t6 that 8ueen El9a!eth was
5eptlan2 was t?
5o!ert :tanle" ,5:-: ;es2 t was <avd .c0e6 or some!od"6
#hrs $homas: :o2 there7s an awful lot of confuson around a!out alen
races who e=sts wthn the Unverse6 and f the"7ve had an"
nteracton wth events on2 or wth people on Earth. And so2 what .
wanted to do s to tr" and clarf" a lot of the ds-nformaton that7s out
there % the msnformaton that s out there2 and how people thn0 of
thn/s. 4ut the 3ourteenth 3acton s somethn/6 to sa"2 s a lttle !t
even further out there2 !ut ts >ute an mportant aspect of all of ths
alen materal.
?eople 0eep comn/ up to me sa"n/2 @. was told that . am a 5eptlan
<ra0e or A"!rd2B or somethn/ alon/ those lnes2 and "ou sort of thn02
@Cell2 where on Earth dd somethn/ l0e that come from?B And f "ou
start researchn/ nto U3O races or Alen races2 what "ou come up wth
s that there7s /ot to !e )D to )5 thousand dEerent races lsted out
there f "ou tal0 to people2 "ou 0now. And t7s a phenomenal num!er
and ts a!solutel" rdculous.
Most of that is totally dis-information, and is channeled
material, that's come from the race that we were talking about
the last time, the Velon, deliberately intended to mislead
people. And so a hu/e amount of ths nformaton s just lterall" that F
its intended to mislead, cause problems, cause difculties with
people on arth, because of the kind of agenda that the Velon
ha!e.
4ut when t comes to ths 5eptlan thn/2 t seems to !e a core thn/
that7s !een runnn/ throu/h for man" "ears2 now. And n fact2 there s a
certan truth to t. 4ut t7s not what people seem to thn02 or how the"
understand t.
:o2 f we start from the !e/nnn/2 shall we sa"6
$he Unverse that we nha!t s not the onl" unverse that e=sts6 .7m
not tal0n/ a!out mon0e"-verses of the sort of cosmolo/sts2 or the
>uantum ph"scsts2 wa" of tal0n/ F the" don7t reall" e=st. 4ut what .
mean s2 ph"scal unverses do e=st.
The signi"cance of our #ni!erse is e$ploring the thought % a
sort of &'hat (f)* % so you ha!e this +reationary ,ource rolling
around whate!er space he*s in- going- .'hat would happen
if ( did this)/ - and that7s what the Unverse s set up to do. .ts
lterall" an ener/" envelope that allows that thou/ht to !e e=plored.
And our #ni!erse is essentially e$ploring the concept of
&freedom of choice*.
:o e!ery soul that e$ists within this #ni!erse is created with
that ability to freely choose their actions. There is only one
uni!ersal law, if you will, which is0 you cannot act in such a way
as to remo!e somebody else's freedom to choose. ,o,
essentially, e!erything is allowable, as long as you don*t break
that one rule.
As . sa"2 there are other unverses2 and the unverse nearer to ours
e=plores the e=act opposte F .'hat if e!ery soul that e$ists
within that uni!erse has the ability to remo!e &freedom of
choice* F how does that work. .t doesn7t wor0 ver" well2 as t turns
out2 from what . can Gnd out a!out t2 that unverse s n a state of
collapse !ecause ts Gnshed2 essentall" ts just mplodn/ n on tself.
4ut some tme a/o2 the !en/s who e=st n that unverse F some of
them2 found a wa" to !rea0 nto our Unverse !" constructn/ what
ph"scsts would call6 what cosmolo/sts would call the HwormholeH2
whch s2 theoretcall"2 !ac0 to !ac0 !lac0 holes2 so ts essentall" a
two-wa" tu!e that connects two re/ons of space to/ether.
:o2 what these !en/s mana/ed to do was to create a wormhole nto
our Unverse to tr" and o!tan as much ener/" as poss!le from our
Unverse to mantan ther poston n ther unverse whch the" 0new
was n a state of collapse. And that7s what the" dd was to !rea0 nto
ths Unverse.
Iow2 when that wormhole opened2 and a certain number of souls
who were on their way to arth to take on human form, as it
were, got caught in the blast, and basically they were
contaminated by the energy patterns of that other uni!erse.
,o into a #ni!erse that is built around energy patterns of
&freedom of choice*, these souls % that is, 11,222 of them
altogether, on their way to arth, got caught in a blast which
allowed them to take &freedom of choice* away. 'hich is not
!ery good when it comes to a uni!erse of &freedom of choice*.
Iow2 !ecause t s a Unverse of Jfreedom of choce72 these 11,222
had a choice of whether they made use of those energy
patterns, or not. And most of them ddn7t2 . am /lad to sa"2 or we
would have had some even !//er pro!lems than we have now. 4ut
onl" a few of them dd2 and most of them ddn7t come to Earth for a
ver" lon/ tme. Io!od" 0nows where the" went2 once the" /ot cau/ht
n ths !last. $he" seemed to dsappear for a whle6 and /o
somewhere. And ts proven mposs!le to trac0 down precsel" where
the" went.
Ale=ander - 3otably, 4ne of the First of ,e!eral Thousand
5(nfected ,ouls5
to Manifest on arth 6 #se the 5Fourteen Faction5 nergies.
:o2 the "rst signs we e!er saw of it on arth was with
7le$ander the 8reat. 9e was the "rst person e!er to con:uer, if
you like. .f "ou loo0 to human hstor" F proper human hstor" F . don7t
mean the ru!!sh that we /et told n school6 the wa" we lved was6
we lved n sort of tr!al socetes2 shall we sa"2 frendl" socetes2 .
suppose F e=tended famles2 l0e frends2 f "ou l0e. $hat was then a
clan vlla/e2 and a clan had a terrtor"2 whch had ts resources for
/rown/ food % huntn/ % water supples % ever"thn/. 'e !ery
rarely had any con;ict between neighboring clans, and
because each of them was aware of the resources that they
had, and running around killing people was not part of their
culture.
.f "ou loo0 !ac0 nto the 0nd of cultures we had then2 then "ou7re
loo0n/ at6 sa"2 if you did something against the tribal rules,
then you were made to work for the society % for the family for
a certain period of time- almost a period of imprisonment, as
it were. <ut instead of putting you away somewhere, you were
forced to work on the clan*s behalf. <ut your family didn*t
su=er. There were always communal stores 6 communal
supplies so your family was always fed 6 looked after. (t was
only the person that caused the problem that was punished for
it.
:o2 that7s the 0nd of culture that there was2 and all of a sudden nto
that came 7le$ander the 8reat who all of a sudden
decided what he was going to do was to start con:uering half
the planet, or as much of the planet that he could get hold of.
That was about 1>2 <+, ( think that*s when it was. ,o he
started trying to take o!er massi!e areas of the planet, so that
he could control e!erything that occurred. 7nd that really is
the "rst time in human history that we had seen somebody
with that kind of intention % using energy patterns that were
literally 'alien' to life on arth.

$he Empre of Ale=ander the Kreat
And then follown/ that2 of course2 we had the ?oman mpire
because they basically followed 7le$ander the 8reat*s pattern,
and then you ha!e the Vatican who*s been doing the same
thing for the last @A22 years % trying to control e!eryone on
the planet. And then "ou have thn/s l0e the European monarchs
ta0n/ over terrtores % nter-terrtoral wars2 and all that sort of stuE.
(t all comes from people using an ability to remo!e
people*s &freedom of choice*, because ob!iously, if
you went around killing people, you*re not allowing
people to choose how their life is.
$hat7s how reall" t !e/an. <ut the real change that we started to
see on the planet, more than anything else, was in the mid to
late @BC2's with the (ndustrial ?e!olution.
:o2 f "ou thn0 of what the 3ourteenth 3acton came nto ths Unverse
to do F was to strip as much of the resources of this #ni!erse as
possible, take it back to their uni!erse 6 use the energy
patterns to maintain their position within their uni!erse.
$he .ndustral 5evoluton
Cell2 f "ou ta0e a loo0 at the .ndustral 5evoluton2 what "ou have s2
all of a sudden2 for the Grst tme that humans turned on the Earth. #p
until that point, we only used what was a!ailable to us. There
was nothing on a mass scale. There was no mass destruction.
3o mass manufacturing, or anything like that. 4nly the start of
the (ndustrial ?e!olution, around the end of the mid @B22's,
where the whole attitude on the planet changed. Or2 at least the
atttude of the .ndustralsts chan/ed. And so t7s those F the people
behind the (ndustrial ?e!olution, who are really the ones who
started to make full use of this biDaar energy of the Fourteenth
Faction.
:o these are these souls who got caught in the blast that
occurred, became contaminated by the energy patterns that
the Fourteenth Faction brought with them.
5EA<.IK EIE5K; ?A$$E5I: F $AE $A.5$EEI 5A#E:
. suppose . want to e=plan a lttle !t a!out how . wor02 reall"2 wth
thn/s. 4ecause2 as . sa"2 . 0now how t /ets to sound a !t far-fetched2
to put t mldl"...
Chat . do s read ener/" patterns. :o2 on a smple level2 . can wal0 nto
a Geld and . can tell "ou where the watercourses are2 where the wells
are2 f there s an" ancent artfacts !ured6 an"thn/ l0e that2 just !"
readn/ the ener/" patterns that e=st wthn that Geld. And then when
t comes to people2 . can6 as a ps"chc sur/eon2 when . loo0 at them2 .
can see all the ener/" patterns that are /on/ on wthn the !od"2 and
where the health pro!lems le2 !ecause the" are pro!lems wthn the
ener/" pattern F there are depletons wthn the ener/" patterns wthn
the !od".
4ut what . can also tell s where "ou or/nate from F whch part of the
Unverse "ou or/nate. $hen2 within our #ni!erse, there are
e=ecti!ely thirteen races % si$ of them are entirely non
physical, they are pure soul energy, they ha!e no physical
bodies, physical structures whatsoe!er. 7nd the !ast maEority
of people on arth, in a biblical sense, ( suppose that you could
call them 'angels'. This is a lot of where the concept of 'angelic
material' comes from, particularly % these non physical beings,
these pure soul energy beings, who ha!e a purity to them % all
those si$ races were created about a hundred million years
ago. ,o basically, the !ast maEority of people that e$ist on
arth are a hundred million years old.
$hen "ou have the semi-physical races, there are se!en of those2
alto/ether. $he sem-ph"scal races do have ph"scal !odes2 ph"scal
structures2 to each other the" are as ph"scal as we are to each other.
4ut2 to us2 we m/ht /et an ma/e of them2 an mpresson of them2 !ut
for most people the" wouldn7t even /et that2 unless these !en/s of the
sem-ph"scal races made a choce to alter ther ener/" patterns so
that the" dd !ecome ph"scal to us. $hs s onl" when U3Os turn up n
our solar s"stem F sometmes we can see them2 sometmes we can7t6
and sometmes wh" we can see an" of them2 and sometmes wh" we
can7t. .t7s !ecause ts a >ueston of what the" are don/ wth ther own
ener/" patterns.
:o to sa"2 what . do wth people s read ther ener/" patterns. :o2 what
. can see wthn some!od" s where the soul or/n s F so2 are the" of
one of the s= non ph"scal races2 or are the" of the seven sem-
ph"scal races. $hs s wh" . can sa"2 !ecause of m" own e=perence of
over (5 "ears of wor0n/ wth people n ths wa"2 that reall"2 we onl"
have seven sem-ph"scal races that e=st n re/ons that would re>ure
craft to travel around n F l0e U3Os.
:o2 the confuson that most people have s that2 . spea0 of the seven
sem-ph"scal races2 !ut for other people F the" have2 "ou 0now2 how
man" thousands of other races that are /ven to them !" ds-
nformaton throu/h channeled messa/es. And so2 . can see wh"
sometmes t would !ecome a !t confusn/2 when . can see what7s
/on/ on wthn people % wthn the A0ashc2 as to wh" people would2
then2 /et a !t confused as to what7s /on/ on wth2 Lwell - where7s all
the other races /one % where do the" come n?L6
:o2 what people tal0 a!out when the" tal0 a!out alen races F reall"2
the" just do not e=st. 4ut to /ve "ou an e=ample6 let7s sa"2 there7s a
varous of !en/s who come from the star s"stem that we call the
?leades6 so the" are 0nown as ?leadeans6 most people have heard
of the ?leadeans. Iow2 .7ve had people come to me and told me that
the"7ve done some research2 or the"7ve !een told that ther soul or/n
s Ummte2 or somethn/ l0e that.
Iow2 there are a race of !en/s that do call themselves Ummtes. .n
fact2 the" dd contact a lot of people on Earth some "ears a/o2 !"
wrtn/ ver" polte letters to them2 !eleve t or not. Ummtes are one of
the races reco/n9ed !" U3O watchers.
L$he s/nature-stamp s2 as the" sa"2 the s"m!ol of ther planet.L
.ma/e :ource
4ut from m" pont of vew2 what . see wthn them s the ener/"
patterns2 ther ener/" s/nature2 f "ou l0e2 of where the" or/nate
from. And where the Ummte or/nate from or/nall" are from the
?leadean race. :o the Ummtes are ?leadean n soul or/n2 !ut the"
happen to lve on a planet that s not necessar" a part of the ?leadean
s"stem. .t !ecomes even more confusn/ n some respects. 4ut from
m" pont of vew2 what . tr" to do s to stc0 to the soul or/n F the soul
ener/" s/nature that these !en/s have2 !ecause then2 t s a lot
easer to understand who the" are2 where the"7re from2 and what ther
ntentons are.
. tend to /nore all the thousands of other !en/s that are out there2
!ecause of that pro!lem that most people have n reco/n9n/ who %
what these !en/s are2 or whether the" e=st at all.
5o!ert :tanle": .n what "ou wrote to me n "our most recent emal2
you said that the black holes were collapsing- 'hy is
that)
#hrs $homas: 5/ht. O0a" F well2 ths comes down to the 3ourteenth
3acton2 n the wa" n whch the" functoned. They broke into this
#ni!erse to obtain as much energy from our #ni!erse as what
they could possibly take. 3ow, in order to do that, they
brought with them- ( could only describe as implosion
de!ices. These are strange looking things. They*!e ne!er been
seen before within this #ni!erse. 3obody has e!er de!eloped
anything like them. ,ome of them are :uite large, ( mean, the
ones free-;oating in space were se!eral hundred feet long,
se!eral hundred yards long, something like that. 7nd what
they were was an energy shell which contains nothing- (
mean, absolutely nothing. ,o, you*re looking at a state of
nothing, there were no energy patterns within this de!ice %
Eust an energy shell.
:o2 f someone approached one of these shells to Gnd out what t was2
t would mplode. And what t dd2 was to use the ener/" of that soul2
so t would lterall" destro" that soul. And n don/ so2 would create a
!lac0 hole2 !ecause !lac0 holes dd not e=st wthn ths Unverse
!efore these other !en/s turned up.
And that7s a /ood one to tr" to /et "our head around F that one F when
"ou thn0 of those scentsts descr!e !lac0 holes6 "ou 0now6 the"7ve
!een tal0n/ recentl" a!out ever" sn/le cell nsde the human !od"
has a !lac0 hole n the center of t6 and all ths other stuE. Io F Iot
reall".
4ut f "ou /o !ac0 to :tephen Aaw0n/7s wor02 for e=ample2 on !lac0
holes2 whch s how he made hs name n scence. Ae descr!ed them
>ute well2 n sa"n/ the" are !ascall" Jhole tu!es72 and what the" do6
the wa" that Ensten wor0ed wth them6 he was actuall" the Grst one
to wor0 wth !lac0 holes2 . thn0. And wth hs space-tme theor"2 that
!ascall" a !lac0 hole was a collapsed star that attracted nto t2
!ecause ts /ravtatonal pull was so hu/e2 that t attracted nto t
an"thn/ that was n ts ran/e. :o2 an" of the star materal6 ener/"
patterns6 whatever t was2 that was n ts ran/e2 /ot suc0ed nto ths
!lac0 hole and chuc0ed out somewhere else. E=cept2 nobody e!er
identi"ed where the &somewhere else* was.
4ut what these !lac0 holes actuall" dd was to do e=actl" that F t drew
as much ener/" as t poss!l" could nto tself and dschar/ed t at a
pont F the collecton pont2 f "ou l0e2 where the 3ourteen 3acton
could ma0e use of them and transport t !ac0 to ther unverse.
5o!ert :tanle": :o t s a hole2 a wormhole, from this
#ni!erse to the other uni!erse so that they can drain
energy out % like a parasite % they*re Eust sucking
energy, speci"c types of energy out. <ut, okay, so
now when did the collapse start to occur 6 why did
that happen)
#hrs $homas: Cell2 o!vousl"2 havn/ ths !9aar race turn up n our
Unverse2 bringing with them energies made of the e$act
opposite of the energies that this #ni!erse is made from was
not a good idea as far as this #ni!erse was concerned. 7nd
really, nobody had an answer to it. There was no way of
"ghting them, because all they had to do is say &34F*- you
know, because they could remo!e &freedom of choice*. 7nd so,
it took a long time to work out a way of dealing with them 6
the problems they brought with them.
And nto ths2 .7m afrad2 comes tme2 and tme s prett" !a9aar stuE.
Iow . can7t reall" e=plan all the connectons n terms of tme
se>uences2 !ecause6 there just doesn7t seem to !e a wa" of
unwrappn/ them. 3or e=ample2 when the wormhole was Grst created
n our Unverse2 that was (.5 mllon "ears a/o. 4ut2 at the same tme2
to protect our solar s"stem F !ecause there s somethn/ ver"2 ver"
specal a!out our solar s"stem.2 the Unverse2 as t were2 shut oE an"
access nto our solar s"stem to prevent the 3ourteen 3acton from
/ann/ an access to t. And that happened2 n human hstor" terms2
that occurred 82DDD "ears a/o. :o somehow2 or other2 events on Earth
happenn/ 82DDD "ears a/o relate to an event occurrn/ wthn the
Unverse (.5 mllon "ears a/o.
:o2 f "ou could Gnd a wa" of e=plann/ that one2 . reall" would l0e to
0now2 !ecause . haven7t !een a!le to /et to the !ottom of that one. .
have !een tr"n/ to wor0 that one out for >ute a few "ears and . reall"
can7t. . mean "ou could e=plan t to a certan e=tent !ecause n order
for us to !e ph"scal2 and the planets we lve on to !e ph"scal wthn
our solar s"stem2 then ener/" patterns are h/hl" condensed. And2 we
see l/ht traveln/ M )862DDD mles per second2 !ut once "ou /et
outsde of our solar s"stem2 then the ener/" patterns are not as
condensed as the" are wth us2 so l/ht travels at much2 much faster
speeds. And therefore2 tme e=sts at dEerent levels % at dEerent
forms wthn n the re/ons of the unverse2 dependn/ on how the
ener/" patterns wthn that re/on wor0.
:o2 events that occur on Earth that2 sa"2 take @22 years as far as
we*re concerned, for the semi-physical races can take a
thousand years, but for the non physical it can take a million
years. :o2 n relaton to each other2 a mllon "ear event wthn the
realms of the non ph"scal races would2 as far as we are concerned2 or
the" would e=perence t as !en/ somethn/ l0e )DD "ears here on
Earth. :o2 the" e=perence tme2 n some respects2 much faster than
we e=perence t. 4ut at the same tme2 because they are
e=ecti!ely immortal, or at least they will last as long as this
#ni!erse lasts, then to them time also happens much more
slowly.
,end of pt)-
:OU5#E
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5o!ert :tanle": .7d l0e to have "ou e=plan2 #hrs2 f "ou could2 what
does it look like when you are reading the 7kashic ?ecord. Aow
could "ou descr!e that?
#hrs $homas: .t7s a vorte=. (t*s a !orte$ of energy. ach e!ent
creates a !orte$ within the space-time continuum if you think
of a fabric of space, then an e!ent that is recorded within the
7kashic is recorded as a !orte$ of energy. That in!ol!es a
number of interconnected dimensions.
Iow2 a/an2 dmensons s somethn/ whch most people don7t reall"
understand. A dmenson s an ener/"2 f "ou thn0 of a rado dal2 then
"ou have statons that e=st at certan ponts around the dal. And the"
e=st at certan mar0ed fre>uences. $he fre>uenc" !etween one spot
on the dal and the ne=t spot on the dal2 "ou can thn0 of that as a
dmenson. :o a dmenson contans all the ener/" patterns that went
!eneath that dmenson2 !ut doesn7t connect to all the ener/" patterns
that /o a!ove that dmenson.
5o!ert :tanle": N0e a note on a scale?
#hrs $homas: ;ep2 that would !e another /ood wa" of puttn/ t. :o
each of those notes has a fre>uenc". And that s all a dmenson s6 a
set of fre>uenc" that add up to one note. And then the ne=t note has a
!unch of fre>uences that add up to tself. And that7s all a dmenson s.
:o2 f "ou loo0 at the Unverse as a whole2 what we have wthn the
Unverse2 n dmensonal terms2 s an ener/" potental of (O to the (Oth
dmensons. 4ascall"2 t7s the num!er (O wth (O 9eros after t. $hat s
how much ener/" s contaned wthn ths Unverse. And then "ou
compare that to our solar s"stem2 we have an ener/" !u!!le around us
to compact the ener/es that ma0e us relate to ph"scal fre>uences2
and that ener/" !u!!le contans (O6 dmensons.
And that7s the 0nd of lmtatons that we operate under2 whereas
outsde of our solar s"stem2 then the ener/" patterns to dmensonal
levels avala!le to us var" dependn/ on where "ou are2 what re/on of
space "ou7re wthn.
And ths s what the A0ashc does s F for each re/on of space2 the
ener/" patterns of an event mprnt themselves nto a vorte= form
wthn the ener/" patterns wthn a partcular re/on. :o2 each re/on of
space has ts own A0ashc. 4ut the" also nter-ln0 to/ether then nto2 f
"ou l0e2 the all Unversal A0ashc.
5o!ert :tanle": Chat .7m curous a!out s: Aow would "ou descr!e the
appearance of t? Chen "ou7re readn/ t2 what are "ou seen/ n "our
mnd7s e"e?
#hrs $homas: 5/ht. $hat7s a lttle more dPcult to descr!e6
.f "ou are a ps"chc2 for e=ample2 and "ou are use to havn/ ps"chc
awareness6 there are a lot of ps"chc her!alsts out there2 shall we
sa"2 who are a!le to loo0 at a plant % the" can tell "ou mmedatel"
what ts propertes are % how t wll help heal the human !od". Iow2
the" don7t /o nto that plant and nvest/ate % /o @Oh well2 ts /ot ths
chemcal2 ths chemcal % that chemcal. $he" 0now nstantl" what that
plant s2 !ecause eEectvel" the" are communcatn/ wth that plant.
$he plant s sa"n/ to them2 @. have these propertes.B
:o2 when . /o nto the A0ashc2 then that7s what . /et2 6s a smlar
response. $he A0ashc sa"s to me2 @Chat s t "ou are loo0n/ for?
Chat2 what nformaton are "ou loo0n/ for?B And then . can solate
that re/on of hstor"2 or an event wthn the hstor". And2 0now what
ts a!out2 0now what t has to sa". :o2 t7s a 0nown/2 as opposed to a
readn/. Once an event has !een recorded wthn the A0ashc2 t cannot
!e ta0en out. Ior can t !e altered out. $he ener/" patterns6 once
the"7re set2 the"7re set. $he" cannot !e vared or altered at all.
5o!ert :tanle": $hs rases another >ueston: are they Gthe 7kashicH
absolutely permanent) 4r, if this #ni!erse dissipates at some
point, will those records be lost)
#hrs $homas: Cell2 f "ou thn0 of the Unverse as !en/ the
creatonar" source6 whatever "ou want to call t2 ts not male or
female2 ts an t. .f "ou encompass all the ener/" patterns that could
ever !e2 then "ou can onl" !e an t6
:o2 the Unverse e=sts !ecause t wants an answer to the >ueston t
as0ed. Chch means t !rou/ht ths Unverse nto e=stence to e=plore
that >ueston. $hat7s what the A0ashc s there for2 and wh" the
A0ashc s a permanent record. 4ecause ths s the answer that s /on/
!ac0 to the creator2 as % when ths Unverse collapses.
$hat s what the A0ashc actuall" s6 t s the memor" of ths Unverse2
to sa"2 @Cell2 ths s what we e=plored on "our !ehalf.B .ts not even an
understandn/2 !ecause there7s no6 there7s nothn/ added to t.
$here7s no crt>ue of t. .ts just purel" Jthese are the events that
occurred7.
5o!ert :tanle": . do have a >ueston from one of m" audence
mem!ers2 and . thn0 . alread" 0now "our answer2 !ecause we tal0ed
a!out ths !efore2 !ut .7m /on/ to as0 t an"wa"6
O0a"2 she7s as0n/ me a!out what you think about time
manipulation, there s some!od" who sad that somethn/ was
/on/ to occur on :eptem!er Oth. . don7t 0now f "ou7ve heard a!out
ths6 7llegedly an ?F(I was found in 3apolean*s ,kull. This is
something that reportedly was placed there by people
tra!eling back in time.
Aave "ou heard an"thn/ a!out ths?
#hrs $homas: Io2 . haven7t heard ths one6 7n ?F(I chip in
3apolean*s skull, aye- that could e$plain a lot.
5o!ert :tanle": NON - ;es2 this could e$plain why he was a bit
mad- <ut, allegedly, this is one of the reasons that he lost
'aterloo 6 things went o= on a di=erent tangent. Thus,
creating a di=erent, but parallel timeline to the base timeline.
#hrs $homas: 5/ht6 . hate these thn/s a!out parallel tmelnes.
5o!ert :tanle": NON - ;ou hate them !ecause6???
#hrs $homas: They don*t e$ist, its not possible. (*ll put it this
way6 Ce7re wthn ths Unverse to e=perence. And report our
learnn/2 at some tme n the far-dstant future2 !ac0 to the #reatonar"
:ource. Iow2 if we had parallel timelines, we would ne!er learn
anything. <ecause, what we would do is shift o!er to the
other- 6 say, .'ell, ( don*t like what*s going on in this
lifetime, (*ll shift o!er to a parallel lifetime 6 (*ll a!oid all the
issues (*m suppose to be going through in this lifetime./ 7nd in
that way you ne!er learn anything, because you keep a!oiding
the issue, you keep a!oiding the lessons.
5o!ert :tanle": #hrs2 "ou7ve also sad n some of "our earler wrtn/s
that .Hve read a!out the 1elon that2 even thou/h the" came here (DD
"ears a/o2 the" traveled !ac0 n tme to ancent :umera2 whatever2
and they planted certain information 6 ideas to make
themsel!es substantial or deify themsel!es essentially in the
records % the arthly records. That ob!iously e=ected our
timeline that we are on.
#hrs $homas: ;es2 you can tra!el back in time because,
ob!iously, the e!ents that occurred in the past ha!e actually
happened. Therefore, you can tra!el back in time % there is
something to tra!el to. Theoretically, what you can do is to
tra!el from the time you tra!eled back to- to the present
point where you left, in theory. The Velon couldn*t manage
that. They actually stayed on arth in that A222 year time
period. <ecause they tra!eled back A222 years, but they
couldn*t tra!el forward again. <ecause, if their plans had
worked, then they would ha!e altered future e!ents. 7nd as
future e!ents ha!e not happened, then we cannot tra!el to
them. There*s a group who tra!eled back in time, had to stay
within that time, and not tra!el forwards again.
5o!ert :tanle": ,o what was the bene"t of what they Jthe
7nnunakiK did by going back in time) 'as there any bene"t for
them)
#hrs $homas: Iow we7re used to seen/ the !od" have a 'D "ear/8D
"ear lfespan. $hen we de2 the soul leaves the !od"2 and at some
future pont2 we then !uld another !od" to lve another lfetme.
For the semi-physical races it is !ery di=erent. Their
soul is integral to the body. Lou cannot kill a semi-
physical being without destroying its soul. (f the
semi-physical being is killed, the body is physically
destroyed, the soul has nowhere to li!e. 7nd,
therefore, cannot continue.
:o2 n other words2 the semi-physical races are pretty much 12
million years old. The soul entered the body 12 million years
ago 6 has remained there e!er since. ,o, the bodies that the
aliens ha!e are e=ecti!ely 12 million years old but they are
self-regenerating. They don*t breakdown or dissol!e, or
anything. They are the same soul within the same body as they
were when they "rst came into being.
This is why the semi-physical races ha!e ne!er
de!eloped weapons. <ecause they know that if they
kill each other, they destroy the soul. 7nd that is a big
no-no as far as anybody is concerned. They li!e their
li!es in ways which tend to be in harmony with
e!erything around them.
5o!ert :tanle": .7m sorr" #hrs2 !ut "ou7re not tal0n/ a!out the 1elons
now2 "ou7re just sa"n/ the !enevolent ones6
#hrs $homas: 7ll the semi-physical races are the same.
5o!ert :tanle": O0a"2 !ut onl" some of them are the 1elons2 r/ht?
#hrs $homas: ;eah2 there are se!en semi-physical races, one of
those races is the Velon- there are >> billion Velon souls
within this #ni!erse.
.7ll /ve "ou the seven races. ;ou have2 the ones that ever"!od" 0nows2
the ?leadeans2 who or/nate from ?leades F !ut2 as . have sad2 the"
have varous su!-races who are sharn/ the place.
;ou have those that or/nate from :rus2 the star s"stem :rus. A/an2
the"7ve spread out n all sorts of re/ons.
;ou have the Kra"s2 whch ever"!od" 0nows a!out. And a/an2 the"
have spread all sorts of dEerent places. $hen "ou have what most U3O
watchers call $he 4lues. :tran/e lttle !en/s2 !ut the"7re >ute
fascnatn/. $he" wor0 wth a lot of healers on Earth2 !eleve t or not2
6nterested n healn/ % /enetcs. And the" wor0 ver" closel" wth the
Kra"s. $hen "ou have a #r"stallne race. $he" e=st n two forms F f
"ou thn0 of a /ant >uart9 cr"stal2 just em!edded n the landscape2
that7s the 0nd of forms that the" ta0e. ,o the soul is literally within
that crystal. $he other form the" use s the" lve n collectves2 so f
"ou thn0 of a cr"stal /lasa,?- ,cr"stal cluster- where "ou have a
num!er of souls lvn/ wthn that /lasa,?- ,cluster- as a collectve
form.
O!vousl"2 the" don7t travel around ver" much2 the" don7t use shps2 or
an"thn/ l0e that. 4ut what the" do s: the"7re ver" /ood at astral
projecton2 as t were. :o the" can ps"chcall" project themselves to2
vrtuall"2 an"where the" want to wthn most of the Unverse2 not all of
t6
$hen there7s a race that comes from star s"stem we7ve catalo/ued as
IK# 584. . dd have a name for t that . came up wth recentl"2 !ut .
can7t remem!er t. An"wa"2 all that means s ts star s"stem *584 n
the @Iew Keneral #atalo/ueB ,IK#-2 whch we don7t have a proper
name for. $he"7re the alens that have had more contact wth Earth %
the lfe on Earth than an" other of the races. .n appearance F f "ou
thn0 of a two "ear old chld2 the he/ht2 the head s proportonatel"
lar/er than the !od" F that7s what the" loo0 l0e.
Apart from the #r"stal ones2 the"7re all !ascall" humanod. 4ut the
IK# 5842 the" have a red-sh //ra" s0n2 predomnatel" red2 sort of a
!rownFred color. $he" are an nterestn/ !unch. $he" are master
/enetcsts. Ch" . sa" the"7ve !een connected wth the Earth a lot s6
ta0e2 sa" the dnosaurs2 for e=ample2 and the Earth wants to
e=perment to see what /ant half-mammals / half-reptles would loo0
l0e2 the IK# 584 would come to Earth % the" would wor0 wth the
/enetc patterns of lfe that e=sted here2 and essentall" create new
lfe forms2 to seed2 whatever2 Earth2 as a conscousness2 chose to have
lvn/ on the planet.
$hat7s the wor0s the" do wthn the Unverse. $he"7re e=ceptonall"
/ood at t. 4ut the" don7t have an" a/enda. $he" onl" do t !ecause
the" love don/ t. $he"7re not don/ t l0e the dot /enetcsts we have
on Earth. $he" do t2 the" 0now how to do t2 and so the" wor0 ver"
closel" wth planets. :o2 an" planet wthn the Unverse that re>ures a
lfe form2 the IK# 584 are a!le to help wor0 wth them to suppl"
whatever form t s.
5o!ert :tanle": .s ths what our ancestors m/ht have called the Iature
:prt?
#hrs $homas: Io. Iature :prts are essentall" the J:dhe7 % the
3aere on Earth. $he :dhe are !ascall" the mana/ement of the 3aere.
They*re nature spirits, they work with plant life on the planet
to maintain the integrity of the plants. 7nd so, they*re nature
spirits, as it were. 3o, the 38+ AMN are a semi-physical being
who literally create life, or create plants, create animals, to
whate!er conditions there are on the planet that re:uires new
life to li!e on it.
.n connecton wth that2 the Earth2 for e=ample2 f "ou loo0 at the
dverst" of lfe on Earth2 more forms of lfe on Earth e=st than the rest
Unverse put to/ether6 that7s what the Earth s.
5o!ert :tanle": $he funn" thn/ s that there7s !een so man"
e=tnctons2 and "et there7s so much dverst"2 so there has to !e
somethn/ ver" specal wth ths place.
#hrs $homas: .t s2 "es2 ts totall" un>ue. Events on Earth determne2
to a ver" /reat e=tent2 what happens throu/hout the rest of the
Unverse. .ts reall" that mportant.
5o!ert :tanle": .ts l0e a catal"st2 s what "ou7re sa"n/?
#hrs $homas: ;es2 f "ou thn0 of the Unverse !en/ constructed to
answer >uestons. $hen the Earth has !een used to answer most of the
>uestons that were as0ed !" the Unverse.
5o!ert :tanle": Cell2 #hrs2 that would e=plan wh" the 1elon want to
ta0e t over6
#hrs $homas: .ts one of the man reasons2 "es. #ertanl"2 the"
followed an ener/" pattern that was amed towards Earth2 and was
amed at Earth for a specGc jo! of helpn/ us throu/h chan/es we7re
/on/ throu/h at the moment.
5o!ert :tanle": #an "ou tell me2 do "ou 0now what these !alls of l/ht
that show up. Chat2 n "our respectve2 what or who are these !en/s
of l/ht that loo0 l0e a !all?
#hrs $homas: Cell2 there are several wa"s of loo0n/ at that2 . mean .
can /ve the standard U3O putdown2 whch s that t s Qarsh Kas. .ts
true to a certan e=tent2 !ecause f "ou /o nto hstorcal answer thn/s2
"ou Gnd the tal0 of jac0-o-lanterns2 marsh !alls2 all of these 0nds of
thn/s do e=st2 pure % smpl" as llumnated ener/". ;ou /et the /as
formed that s llumnated. $hen "ou /et !all l/htenn/. :o2 that can
account for some of t.
4ut a lot of t F no. $he"Hre ener/" patterns that are /enerated !" the
Earth2 herself. And a lot of them are communcatn/ devces. $hn0 of
crop formatons2 or crop /l"phs2 s what the" call them these da"s6
and2 . 0now .7m /on/ to upset a lot of people !" sa"n/ ths2 !ut crop
formatons are not formed !" alens. :ome are2 !ut ver"2 ver" few of
them are actuall" created !" alens. $he vast majort" of them are
created !" the Earth2 herself.
5o!ert :tanle": 4" the Earth6 ts tr"n/ to communcate to us?
#hrs $homas: ?artl" t7s a communcaton to us and partl" t s to the
sem-ph"scal races - !en/s outsde of the Earth. $here was a classc
case a couple "ears a/o6 the :E$. ?roject F :earch for E=traterrestral
.ntell/ence2 the" !eamed a messa/e out nto space % sad t2 @Oh well2
ts /on/ to thousands of "ears !efore t answers !ecause ever"thn/ s
so far awa" % rado waves onl" travel so fastB 2 or whatever. 4ut then a
few "ears a/o2 the repl" turned up2 n Cltshre n 4rtan. .t was n a
Geld r/ht ne=t door to a rado telescope that s ln0ed to :E$. . :o the
answer came !ac02 and the" all lau/hed t oE. $hat s a perfect
e=ample of crop formaton specGcall" formed !" an alen race as a
communcaton. Chat the Earth does s communcate n the same wa"2
!" creatn/ some of these patterns. . mean2 some of these crop
formatons are !reathta0n/ n ther comple=t". 4ut the messa/e s
amed outwards2 as much as an"thn/ else. $hat7s the prmar" reason.
:o2 that7s what those !alls are F most of those !alls are ener/"
patterns /enerated !" the Earth herself. . mean "ou seen !/
collectons of them over Gssures that have volcanc actvt"2 and "ou
have an ener/" release. And "ou /et a lot of !alls formn/ over that
rupture n the Earth7s surface. :o ts an Earth ener/".
https://www."outu!e.com/watch?v&0;w#1cR9a#A*t&Rm)(s
L#rop 3ormatons are Iot 3ormed !" Alens...
$he vast majort" of them are created !" the Earth2 herself.L
L?artl" t7s a communcaton to us and partl" t s to
the sem-ph"scal races - !en/s outsde of the Earth.L
5o!ert :tanle": :o #hrs2 "ou sad there was RR !llon 1elon souls2 are
there stll? Or2 what happened?
#hrs $homas: ;eah2 the" have !een evcted from the Unverse.
5o!ert :tanle": $o where? Chere would the" have !een evcted to?
#hrs $homas: Outsde the Unverse.
5o!ert :tanle": Oh2 o0a"2 "ou7ve mentoned ths !efore. :o2 ther not
allowed to come !ac0?
#hrs $homas: Cell2 ts /ets a lttle !t complcated2 !ut essentall"2
what normall" would have happened6 well2 . sa" Jnormall"7 !ecause
no!od"7s ever !een evcted from the Unverse !efore. :o2 what do "ou
do wth them? <o "ou return them to source? .n whch case2 there7s a
premature removal of the !alance of ener/es from wthn ths Unverse
whch2 n tself2 could !e catastrophc.
:o2 what dd occur was a specal solar s"stem was constructed for
them. :o2 the 1elon were removed from ths Unverse nto another
solar s"stem that s connected2 !ut at the same tme2 separate from
ths Unverse.
Iow2 . 0now that sounds a !t stran/e2 !ut then we7re used to thn0n/
of solar s"stems formn/ over mllons2 f not2 !llons of "ears. Chen
we /et outsde of the Unverse2 tme does not e=st. And2 therefore
an"thn/ can occur wthn that re/on !ecause there s no tme for t to
ta0e for somethn/ to happen2 t can happen nstantaneousl".
5o!ert :tanle": $he speed of thou/ht F a!solutel" 6 .f "ou ta0e awa"
the restrctons of ths ph"scal dmenson that we lve n2 then
conscousness could manfest n what we thn0 ma/call"2 n an nstant.
#hrs $homas: ;es6 Or2 one can travel across a /ala="2 for e=ample2 n
a !ln0 of an e"e2 just !" thn0n/ to where the" want to /o.
5o!ert :tanle": :centsts call t @entan/lementB ,4ell7s $heorem-2
@acton-at-a-dstanceB.
#hrs $homas: ;es2 t would !e a @>uantum entan/lementB.
5o!ert :tanle": One of the thn/s that .7m personall" ver" curous
a!out "ou s: At what a/e dd "ou start to reco/n9e what "ou were
seen/?
#hrs $homas:.ntall"2 t was at a/e '. 4ut2 l0e most chldren who
e=perence2 or show2 an" 0nd of ps"chc capa!lt"2 m" mother !eat t
out of me2 !ascall". :o2 t too0 me a few "ears to sort of come !ac0
from that. :o2 t was onl" reall" n m"6 . had a touch of t throu/h m"
teena/e "ears2 !ut then reall" dd lose n m" earl" RD7s when . reall"
went nto t2 started loo0n/ at t properl"2 and nto t full tme6 as full
tme as . could.
5o!ert :tanle": Cere "ou careful a!out dvul/n/ what "ou were seen/
at that pont2 or dd "ou just tell ever"!od"?
#hrs $homas: . ddn7t tell an"!od" at all2 ntall".
5o!ert :tanle": Untl what a/e?
#hrs $homas: .t was /radual then. :o2 once . wor0ed out what t was .
was actuall" connected to % what . was seen/6and2 then6 . found
people came to me and as0 me >uestons2 spontaneousl"2 even thou/h
total stran/ers would come up to me % as0 me a >ueston for
somethn/. And2 . would sort of thn02 @well2 that7s oddB2 !ut somehow
.7d have the answer.
Chat . also dd was to start chec0n/ ever"thn/ . poss!l" could to
ma0e sure the 0nd of answers . was /ettn/ were as accurate as the"
could !e. :o2 wherever poss!le2 . would chec0 throu/h hstor" !oo0s2
whatever nformaton . could Gnd a!out a partcular su!ject2 to see
what correlatons there were2 or f . was puttn/ some 0nd of
nterpretaton onto t. And2 over the "ears2 t led me to !eleve that
what . receve from the A0ashc s accurate % correct. And an awful lot
of what s wrtten n hstor" !oo0s s just a load of ru!!sh. . mean2 "ou
0now2 .7ve !een wor0n/ wth t actvel" for (5 "ears2 and over that
tme perod2 then .7ve !ecome6 . stll chec0 ever"thn/. . 0now that ts
accurate2 !ut at the same tme . want to ma0e sure that ts6 that .
present what . see as accuratel" as poss!le.
.ts l0e IK# 5842 when . Grst encountered them2 . had no dea that
there was a star s"stem called IK# 5842 !ut . just 0new that these
!en/s or/nated from that star s"stem. .t too0 me a!out (-4 "ears to
actuall" trac0 down that there was a Iew Keneral #atalo/ue ,IK#-
and there was a star s"stem called num!er 584 wthn t. And t related
to what . could see as !en/6 where these !en/s or/nated from.
:o2 as . sad2 . tr" and chec0 ever"thn/ as much as . poss!l" can to
ensure that . am /vn/ an accurate answer.
!erything from the Theosophical ,ociety is Velon
8enerated
5o!ert :tanle": :o2 #hrs2 how man" of the 1elon souls are left2 f an"2
n our Unverse2 or were the" all evcted?
#hrs $homas: There are about three million left- 7nd, why is
that) (ts because the Velon are responsible for all the
channeled material that we ha!e recei!ed on the planet for the
last @22 years. The one who really started it, ( suppose, was
<la!atsky with the Theosophical ,ociety in the @MA2s. 9er
guide GIEwal OhulH was a Velon. Les, so e!erything from the
Theosophical ,ociety is Velon generated. 7nd when you get to
7lice <ailey*s time in the @P>2*s, it gets e!en worse.
Alce 4ale" was marred6 7lice <ailey*s husband was the <ritish
7mbassador to the #nited 3ations in 3ew Lork. 9e was a 11-
le!el Freemason, as well. 7lice <ailey set up a publishing
company to publish the channeled material for the
Theosophical ,ociety, and the publishing company was called
the Qucifer Trust.
Iow2 the Nucfer $rust6 Nucfer2 f "ou l0e2 s the /od of the
3reemasons2 s the /od of the .llumnat. 4ut also2 Nucfer s one of the
personas that the 1elon have ta0en on n ther channeled materal. :o
"ou /et those 0nds of connectons /on/ on as well. :o t just !ecomes
mprnted nto how people thn0 of channeled materal.
3rom the other sde2 there7s a lot of clarvo"ants % medums screamn/
% shoutn/ at me sa"n/2 @Cell2 what a!out6 "ou 0now2 . pass on
messa/es from the deceased6B And so2 "ou 0now2 "our /reat aunt
des2 or "our parents de or "our /randmother des2 whatever6 A lot of
people o!vousl" /reve a /reat deal and the" want to 0now f the soul
of the dearl" departed s o0a"2 f the" had recovered from whatever
the pro!lems the" had on Earth that made them de n the Grst place.
And ( ha!e to say in my e$perience that, generally speaking,
those channeled messages ha!e not been interfered with
because they are soul to soul communications between the
medium 6 the soul of the departed. ,o, those, generally
speaking, seem to be untouched as far as the Velon are
concerned, because they can*t really break into that form of
communication because its too personal. (ts only when it
becomes impersonal, then the problems begin.
5o!ert :tanle": $he 1elon2 does ther manpulaton e=tend nto
rel/on?
#hrs $homas: Io - not as such. From the Vatican !iewpoint,
they used Fourteen Faction energies to take control 6
spread the messages- the other religions belie!ed
whate!er they belie!ed. The one religion they did try
to in;uence was Rudaism, the Rewish religion. 7nd
the- what*s his name- Secharia ,itchin, the
translator of the 7nnunaki material, the 7nnunaki is
one of a sub race of the Velon, he always claimed in
his books that the 7nnunaki story forms the basis for
the 4ld Testament. ,o, the 4ld Testament material, he
claims, is based on the 7nnunaki story.
Iow2 that sn7t true2 !ecause2 there7s a hu/e archeolo/cal d/ /on/ on
n :outhern $ur0e" at the moment F has !een for a!out )5 or RD "ears2
somethn/ l0e that. Sust down the road from KT!e0l $epe2 a!out R
0lometers from there2 s the ancent !!lcal ct"2 Ur of the #haldees2
whch s where A!raham came from2 accordn/ to !!lcal stores.
7braham is the root to three religions % Rudaism, +hristianity 6
(slam. They are all based on, or ha!e their root with... what's
his name... J7brahamK... and he li!ed 6 worked with the- what
was that % 8obekli Tepe. 3ow what they found at 8obekli Tepe
are records of instances of how these people li!ed their li!es.
Iow2 the re/on s !etween the $/rs % Euphrates 5vers. $here7s
Iorthern .ra>2 :outhern $ur0e" % $ur0manstan2 . thn0 t s2 where
those !orders meet. 7nd the people who li!ed there called the
region &den*. 7nd they were in!aded, as it were, by a group of
beings they called .The Tall 'hite 3ortherners/. ,o if you
think of the people li!ing in the area, they would be as the
people in the Middle ast look now.
:o all of a sudden2 ths /roup of !en/s move nto the area2 who are tall
% !lond % pale. Iow2 ts poss!le the" were from the :candnavan
countres2 or ts poss!le that the" were a left-over from an earl"
human form called JK/antopthecus72 !ecause the" were descr!ed as
Jver" tall7. And2 so what s sad % wrtten n the Old $estament s the
hstor"2 f "ou l0e2 of that re/on % what occurred. ,o it was the
god*s multiple mated with human women and produced hybrid
children % which is what the 7nnunaki story is based on.
:o the 7nnunaki mi$ed together human history and the history
of their own solar system 6 merged it together into this fake
story- it*s a fantasy story-
'hat the 4ld Testament is based is the actual history of e!ents
that occurred from 8obekli Tepe, when those peoples left
&den*, tra!eled south through ,umeria, through <abylon 6
ended up in gypt. 7nd then mo!ed from gypt to +aanan
GTalestineH and became the Rewish peoples.
:o most of the JOld $estament7 s a hstor" !oo0 F not a!out the
Annuna0 materal F that*s Eust the &7nnunaki Fantasy ,tory*. :o2
rel/on sn7t essentall" 1elon JstuE72 although they ha!e claimed to
be the +hrist +onsciousness % the- Eust about e!ery religious
leader-
5o!ert :tanle": Oh "eah2 wth channeled materal... :o2 from "our
perspectve2 when "ou read A0ashc records2 dd Sesus e=st the wa" he
s portra"ed n the 4!le?
#hrs $homas: Io. . don7t want to /et nto ths2 !ecause . /et nto a lot
of trou!le when . start tal0n/ a!out ths2 !ecause t upsets a lot of
people. Net7s just sa" no2 and what s wrtten n the Iew $estament s
not accurate. Chat . tr" to sa" s fath s somethn/ that s ver"
dEerent to fact. A lot of people stll mantan ther fath % . don7t want
dsrespect that fath6
5el/on has a dEerent root. .t /oes !ac0 to ancent E/"pt and ln0s n
wth ancent :outh Amerca as a concept of rel/on2 !ut t was there to
hold % mpart partcular t"pes of nformaton. $he 1atcan altered that
from2 l0e . was sa"n/2 the Old $estament s a hstor" !oo0 F a stor" of
the hstor" of the Sewsh people. Chat the 1atcan dd was to nvent a
rel/on. 4" usn/ the 3ourteen7s ener/" patterns U$he 3ourteenth
3acton7sV the" have enforced that on the world.
5o!ert :tanle": Oh2 the 3ourteenth 3acton2 . see2 o0a"2 ahhh6 there7s
the ntersecton.
#hrs $homas: The Fourthteen nergy 'they' Jthe VaticanK used.
As far as . can Gnd out2 and as far as . have !een a!le to trac02 the
Velon ha!e ne!er been e=ected by Fourteen energies. They
Eust ha!e made choices of their own, and mo!ed in directions
of their own, which ha!e acted in a way to remo!e &free
choice*. The Velon don*t ha!e anything to do with the
Fourteenth Faction at all, they are entirely separate.
5o!ert :tanle": 5/ht2 but you said that they are the ones JThe
VelonK that are behind this false narrati!e % that we are going
to ascend 6 essentially abandon the arth- for some other
home, or other dimension, right)
#hrs $homas: ;es2 so that is 'their' Jthe VelonK agenda. <ut if you
look at the Fourteen Faction material, or how the Fourteen
Faction e=ected life on arth, the (ndustrial ?e!olution is the
perfect e$ample of it. <ecause the Fourteenth Faction came
into this #ni!erse to destroy, to remo!e as much as possible,
to e$ploit all the energy patterns that e$isted in this #ni!erse
6 take it back to their own #ni!erse. That was their purpose of
coming here % the Fourteen Faction.
The (ndustrial ?e!olution - i.e. 7 +onse:uence of
Fourteenth Faction nergies. This ,olar ,ystem is the
most important part of this #ni!erse. !erything that
occurs on arth has an impact outside of our solar
system. The arth was protected from these
Fourteenth Faction energies for a long time, because
nobody wanted the resources of the arth, and the
life that e$ists on arth, to be destroyed by these
other beings. ,o, the "rst mo!e to literally destroy
the planet was with the (ndustrial ?e!olution. And we7ve
contnued on that process ever snce up untl ver" recentl"6 4ecause
it only !ery recently people ha!e really- are saying stop-
they*!e had enough of it- things ha!e really gone too far.
The +oncept of a There <eing a ?eptilian ?ace, is a +oncept
That 7rose 4ut of The Fourteenth Faction nergies.
5o!ert :tanle": O0a"2 "our tal0n/ a!out people on Earth2 !ut also
you*re saying that there some group or entities that are
protecting the ,olar ,ystem, or is it Eust the +reator that has
put some sort of protection around us)
#hrs $homas: Io2 not the +reator as such, the en!elope of our
#ni!erse is made up Thirteen <eings, and its those Thirteen
<eings that maintain the balance of energy within this
#ni!erse- e!erywhere within the #ni!erse. (t*s the Thirteen
<eings who put the protection around the arth, or around our
solar system, to protect it from the Fourteen Faction from the
other uni!erse. 7nd now, the Fourteenth Faction and the
energy patterns that they brought with them, are where the
concept of the ?eptilian races came from, because that was
the appearance of the Fourteenth Faction.
:o2 when these people /ot mprnted wth these ener/" patterns2 these
((2DDD that /ot cau/ht n the !last when the wormhole opened were
mprnted wth the ener/" patterns from the 3ourteenth 3acton. And
the" too0 on6 if looked at them from a psychic !iewpoint, what
you would see is a ?eptilian image % a 9umanoid ?eptilian.
And so2 this is why people get this concept of ?eptilians being
behind controlling e!erything, destroying e!erything,
whate!er- it*s because there*s a sort of erased memory, as it
were, of the acti!ities of the Fourteenth Faction. 7nd also to a
certain e$tent, e!erybody is psychic, you might not be acti!ely
psychic, or consciously psychic, but on a subconscious le!el,
we come in contact with somebody, we pickup all sorts of
things from them without realiDing it. 7nd so if you came
across one of these people who had decided to use the
Fourteenth Faction energies, then they would appear 6 feel to
you to be ?eptilian.
And so2 ths s where ths whole confuson a!out 5eptlans races !en/
ever"where on the planet2 and all the rest of t2 has come from. 3one
of the races out there look ?eptilian, no race within this
#ni!erse has a ?eptilian appearance. 4nly this race coming
from a di=erent uni!erse has that ?eptilian appearance.
Ever"!od" wthn ths Unverse s Aumanod2 n varous forms F
essentially 9umanoid in form, and none of them look like a
?eptile. .ts onl" the ener/" patterns that came n from ths other
unverse wth the 3ourteenth 3acton that have an mprnt of a 5eptlan
ener/" form. And ts people who have used6 the" chose to use those
ener/es that the 3ourteenth 3acton !rou/ht wth them to remove
Jfreedom of choce7 of people on Earth.
Lou can say it began with the (ndustrial ?e!olution 6 has
continued e!er since. Lou know the Transnational +ompanies,
to a certain e$tent, made use of Fourteen Faction JenergiesK.
Teople who took on those energies had the same life span as
e!erybody does, so whilst in body, they would do whate!er it is
to forward their aims, they died, lea!e the body, reincarnate
again into a new body, and make use of those energies again.
,o, you ha!e a series of lifetimes being li!ed by these people
where they attempt to take control 6 strip resources from the
arth.
Iow fortunately, a way was found to deal with the Fourteenth
Faction. And2 a/an2 don7t as0 me to e=plan the tme se>uences6 !ut
the answer was found on arth, belie!e it or not. 7lthough we
were protected as much as we possibly could be from the
Fourteenth Faction- the closest they came to arth was about
P1 8ala$ies distant % something like that, so they ne!er really
came that close to our 8ala$y, or our ,olar ,ystem. <ut those
who brought those energies with them were, ob!iously, 9uman
,ouls. 7nd so they sneaked them in, if you like, by presenting
themsel!es as a 9uman ,oul coming into our ,olar ,ystem,
then they were able to bring those Fourteen energies with
them. 4nce entered in here then, you know, then they could do
anything that they chose to do.
4ut6 the onl" wa" . can descr!e t s: a messa/e was sent out2 from
our :olar :"stem to the 3ourteenth 3acton2 to sa" that there s a
never-endn/ ener/" source2 a lmtless ener/" source wthn our :olar
:"stem. And that attracted them to us. And we dd Jsomethn/7 6and .
can7t >ute /et hold of e=actl" what Jsomethn/7 we dd to /et hold of
them2 and it allowed us to, literally, e!ict them from the
#ni!erse 6 back to their own uni!erse, and to shutdown their
wormhole so there was no more access.
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$he 3ourteenth 3acton2 $he 1elon % $he A0ashc
?art4
Cth $he 3ourteenth 3acton Evcton
4lac0 Aoles Are Iow #ollapsn/
Aaw0n/ Gnall" sees the l/ht: :a"s !lac0 holes do not e=stW
?h"scst :tephen Aaw0n/ has now reversed hs stand on !lac0 holes.
!" ?aul Na1olette
Sanuar" R'2 RD)4
.ntervew ?art4
4lac0 Aoles Are #ollapsn/
5o!ert :tanle": 4ut2 what a!out !lac0 holes2 thou/h2 #hrs? Chat are
we seen/ there?
#hrs $homas: That e!ent that remo!ed the Fourteenth
Faction, in our time frame it occurred in >22>, it was
actually March >22>, that that happened. <ut outside
our ,olar ,ystem, it was at least @A,222 years ago-
Ion*t ask me, but that*s the kind of time frames. 3ow,
if you look at what*s occurred since >22>, what you
ha!e from cosmologists, :uantum physicists 6 all the
rest of it, is photographs taken by 9ubble shows
black holes emitting matter. 3ow black holes can*t
emit matter, they can only attract matter in one
direction. This is all they*!e been obser!ed to do e!er
since instein, or e!en 9ubble himself, ( suppose, it
might ha!e described back mid @M22s, early @P22s.
<ut they ha!e always been obser!ed to absorb
material, to draw material into themsel!es. <ut now,
the black holes are collapsing. 7nd as they collapse,
they*re emitting, instead.
5o!ert :tanle": Aave "ou seen the latest news on ths? Onl" an hour
a/o from I4#2 .The colossal black hole at the heart of the Milky
'ay 8ala$y is a messy eater. 4f all the gas that falls towards
the black hole, PP percent gets spewed back out into space,
new obser!ations show, making the black hole akin to a
toddler whose food ends up mostly on the ;oor, rather than his
mouth./ ;ou wanted some conGrmaton2 . mean2 ths s prett"
ama9n/6 ;ou are r/ht. . thn0 "ou are a!solutel" spot on2 #hrs.
#hrs $homas: $hs s what7s happenn/2 and the reason why it*s
happening is because the Fourteen energies ha!e been
remo!ed. 7nd, therefore the energy patterns no longer e$ist.
7nd the holes are shutting down. They*re collapsing.
5o!ert :tanle": And2 of course2 ts /on/ to loo0 as thou/h ts !en/
spewed !ac0 out2 !ut n fact ts no lon/er /on/ n.
#hrs $homas: ;es6 Cell2 t s also pushn/ t out as the !lac0 hole s
collapsn/2 ts pushn/ out materal that t7s ta0en n the past. .t s a
toddler6 4ut .7ve seen a lot of photo/raphs over the past few "ears2
all6 scentsts sa"n/2 "ou 0now2 @6these are emttn/2 the"7re not
/athern/ n6B
4ut also the same atttudes have chan/ed on Earth. ;ou 0now2 when
poltcans sa" somethn/2 people use to just fall for t n the past2 or
when a monarch would sa" somethn/2 people would have to /o alon/
wth t. Chereas now2 people are turnn/ around and sa"n/2 @Ch"? .
don7t want to do thsW Ce don7t want to do thsW Ce don7t need to do
thsWB 5/ht up to here F loo0 what7s happenn/ n :"ra. ;ou 0now2
?resdent O!ama2 two da"s a/o2 turned around and sad2 @Cell2 we7re
/on/ to !om! :"rans re/ardless of what an"!od" else does.B And
ever"!od" n the rest of the world s standn/ around and sad2 @Ch"?B
And2 toda"2 O!ama had to sa"2 @Cell2 we can7t2 we7re not /on/ to
!om! them untl we have a mandate from the Unted Iatons.B
'e*!e had a massi!e shift in policy because people ha!e
turned around and said, .'e*re not going to accept what
you*re telling us any longer./ Chereas2 )D "ears a/o2 )R "ears a/o2
RD "ears a/o2 5D "ears a/o6 whatever6 .f a poltcan n ?resdent
O!ama7s poston had sad that2 then ever"!od" would have sad J;es7.
3obody would ha!e :uestioned it, because they could use the
Fourteenth Faction energy.
5o!ert :tanle": ;es2 ts further evdence of what "ou7ve just stated2
a!out the nXuence of the 3ourteenth 3acton s wann/2 r/ht?
#hrs $homas: 1er" much so. (t*s !irtually gone, not entirely, but
its !irtually gone. Lou know, you*!e got a lot of the industrial
heads, and politicians 6 some monarchs still trying to make
use of that energy- 7nd, to a certain e$tent people are so
used, so accustomed, to being pushed into a direction, that
they go along with it. 7 growing number of people are
recogniDing that those energy patterns no longer e$ist, and
therefore they can push back. 7nd this is what we*re seeing, a
massi!e mo!e in that direction.
$hou/h2 n terms of 5eptlan races % 5eptles n Auman form2 the" no
lon/er e=st F all those ener/" patterns are /one. And2 "ou 0now6 .
mean6 ths s /on/ to ma0e me sound more mad2 !ut ( can con"rm
Ia!id (cke*s obser!ation % the Uueen Mother had ?eptilian
energies. ( ha!e no doubt of that.
5o!ert :tanle": Ch"? 4ecause of what "ou have seen ps"chcall"?
#hrs $homas: ;es.
5o!ert :tanle": ChoaW
#hrs $homas: Cell2 from what . understand of readn/ a lttle !t nto
the hstor" of the ro"al faml" % what7s !een /on/ on2 and ever"thn/.
The Uueen Mother had a !ery gentle % &e!erybody*s
grandmother* public persona with the image she presented,
whereas pri!ately, she was an absolute tyrant 6 totally ruled
the family- and that*s re;ected in making use of the
Fourteenth Faction energies.
4ut now the" can7t. 4ecause those energy patterns ha!e been
destroyed F the" have !een totall" removed from ths Unverse. This
is what we*re seeing- politicians can no longer get away with
anything, or the way monarchs can no longer get away with
anything, because people are recogniDing, or realiDing that
there isn*t that demand that they can remo!e &freedom of
choice* left anymore. (ts gone.
5o!ert :tanle": Cell #hrs2 "ou reall" made m" da". . mean honestl".
#hrs $homas: . thn02 underneath t all2 ever"!od" real9es there7s
somethn/ l0e ths /on/ on. $he" haven7t !een a!le to nvest/ate t
for themselves2 for whatever reason. :o2 t ta0es dots l0e me to turn
up2 and tr" to come up wth these 0nds of answers.
:o that7s what . was tr"n/ to sa" ton/ht reall" wth our tal0. ;es2
there ha!e been problems from ?eptilian life forms, they ha!e
created ha!oc on arth, but they ha!e now gone.
Also2 ?eptilians, because they are not solid in any shape or
form, they cannot reproduce. ,o, where people ha!e seen
?eptilians life forms inside people, it*s because of this
Fourteen energies. <ut if those people ha!e the Fourteen
energies ha!e children, that energy isn*t reproduced because
the energy is contained within the soul of that indi!idual.
:o2 these 5eptlan forms are not alen n the sense that the" are an
alen form that e=sts wthn our Unverse. Ione of the other races
nter!reed wth each other2 as t were. And ts ph"scall" mposs!le for
them to nter!reed wth people on Earth. 4ecause6 the :even :em-
?h"scal races would !e the onl" ones that could ever poss!l" do that.
And2 the" don7t even reproduce !ecause the" are mmortal. :o the"
don7t reproduce2 at least not n the same wa" that we do2 an"wa". And
therefore2 how could "ou create an Alen A"!rd F an Alen Auman
A"!rd? ;ou canHtW
5o!ert :tanle": 3ascnatn/6 wow6 m" /oodnessW
#hrs $homas: Teople need to try to understand that, yes, we
did ha!e problems with a ?eptilian race, but those are now
gone, totally % they no longer e$ist anywhere in this #ni!erse,
those energy patterns ha!e been totally remo!ed or
destroyed. The !ast maEority- no- not !ast maEority- but 7QQ
channeled material, talking about the good, the bad, the light,
the dark, whate!er- Ath dimension, 7scension, all the rest of
it- is Velon originated.
5o!ert :tanle": ;es2 1elons6
#hrs $homas: 7nd, therefore, they are working to their own
agenda. 7nd, therefore, it should be ignored. 7ll of it is dis-
information 6 misinformation. (t is deliberately designed to
mislead people away from what our true purpose is, which is
this soul reintegration. 7nd so, all that needs to be ignored.
'e also got new energy patterns working with us to try to help
us with this. 7 friend sent me an e$tract from somebody*s
website, recently. (t*s a newsletter from the person who runs
the website. (t says, .'hy ( am 3o Qonger a Qightworker/.
5o!ert :tanle": ;es2 that7s m" frend2 #ameron <a". .7ve had hm on
!efore.
#hrs $homas: Cell2 t7s a !rllant pece of wrtn/. .ts super!. And .
would ur/e an"!od" who lstens to channeled materal to read t.
4ecause he puts t ver" well2 and e=plans why there is this duality,
this dichotomy going on. 4b!iously, he puts it in di=erent
words to the way ( would put it. 9e wouldn*t know about the
Velon, and all the rest of it. <ut, essentially, that*s what he*s
talking about % 5Iemiurge5, as he puts it, is the Velon.
5o!ert :tanle": .nterestn/6. #hrs2 alwa"s fascnatn/ spea0n/ wth
"ou2 and than0 "ou for sendn/ me those artcles that "ou7ve wrtten. .
0now "ou have some !oo0s6 Aow do people Gnd "our wor0?
#hrs $homas: Cell2 as . sad !efore2 Ama9on has eEectvel" !anned
m" !oo0s2 "ou can7t /et them throu/h Ama9on6
$he !est place would !e a mal order !oo0 clu! compan" called
#"/nus 4oo07s .nternatonal Qal Order :ervce2 the" are on Y
www.c"/nus-!oo0s.co.u0 Z
5o!ert :tanle": Aow man" !oo0s do "ou have % what are ther names?
#hrs $homas: Eleven 4oo0s all to/ether.
$here are 8 !oo0s a!out Earth Astor" % ( !oo0s a!out Aealn/.
). $he Sourne" Aome
R. $he 3ool7s 3rst :teps
(. ?lanet Earth F $he Unverse7s E=perment
4. $he Unversal :oul
5. $he Auman :oul
6. ?roject Auman E=tncton F $he Ultmate #onsprac"
'. $he Annuna0 ?lan % $he Auman ?lan
8. :"nthess
O. $he Aealn/ 4oo0 ,Aealn/ #ourse-
)D. Ever"thn/ ;ou Alwa"s Canted to [now A!out ;our 4od" 4ut
Io!od" was A!le to $ell ;ou
)). $he :e>uel $o Ever"thn/ ;ou Alwa"s Canted to [now A!out ;our
4od"
5o!ert :tanle": Aave "ou found that each or/an has ts own t"pe of
awareness?
#hrs $homas: ach organ works with a particular emotion2 .
suppose would !e the smplest wa" of e=plann/ t. $here s a #hnese
s"stem as well2 whch s sl/htl" dEerent to what we e=plan n our
!oo0s. . am not entrel" certan for the reason for that.
4ut out of the thousands of people . have wor0 wth over the last (5
"ears2 no!od" . have ever wor0ed wth falls outsde the pattern
descr!ed n the @Ever"thn/ ;ou Ever Canted to [now A!out ;our
4od"B !oo0. :o ever" chapter relates to each or/an. $here are sl/ht
dEerences n the #hnese s"stem. 4ut the" are onl" sl/ht
?eople have come !ac0 to us and sad that the"7ve read these !oo0s %
have cured themselves of whatever the pro!lem s. .t can !e done F no
pro!lem.
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. trul" l0e the person of #hrs and enjo" readn/ what he sa"s. 4ut . do
have a pro!lem wth a !t of hs themes. 3or e=ample2 he sa"s that the
Grst e=ample of the 3ourteenth facton was Ale=ander the Kreat
con>uest2 Ale=ander havn/ !een the Grst to do mass 0lln/ of the sort.
Cell2 Khen/s [han was deGntel" a predecessor to Ale=ander and hs
con>uest were covern/ half the earth lterall". .ma/ne the sprt n
those tme2 to con>uest half the earth wth horses and arrows.
$here have !een con>uest2 mass 0lln/2 etc much !efore. :ame wth
not turnn/ a/anst the planet !efore the )8DD centur". .t ma" !e just
!ecause we dd not have the technolo/". 4ut what . have seen n
hstor" !oo0s re/ardn/ how we /ot rd of Amercan .ndans startn/ n
the )6DD centur" s deGntel" not for the wea0 of heart. Ce were
a!solutel" !ar!arous. $hs was mass 0lln/.
. would trul" l0e to compare the A0ashc !oo0s sources !ecause
somethn/ seems odd to me.
Aowever2 . must sa" that he sends a !ree9e of fresh ar.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58865-An-Update-On-
Our-Evoluton-!"-#hrs-$homas%p&'486)D%vewfull&)*post'486)D
;ou m/ht want to do a lttle more research on Ale=ander $he Kreat
and Ken/hs [han. 5e-read a!ove:
8uote :o2 that7s the 0nd of culture that there was2 and all of a sudden
nto that came Ale=ander the Kreat who all of a sudden decded what
he was /on/ to do was to start con>uern/ half the planet2 or as much
of the planet that he could /et hold of. $hat was a!out (RD 4#2 . thn0
that7s when t was. :o he started tr"n/ to ta0e over massve areas of
the planet2 so that he could control ever"thn/ that occurred. 7nd that
really is the "rst time in human history that we had seen
somebody with that kind of intention % using energy patterns
that literally alien to life on arth.
Ale=ander the Kreat
And then follown/ that2 of course2 we had the 5oman Empre !ecause
the" !ascall" followed Ale=ander the Kreat7s pattern2 and then "ou
have the 1atcan who7s !een don/ the same thn/ for the last )5DD
"ears F tr"n/ to control ever"one on the planet. And then "ou have
thn/s l0e the European monarchs ta0n/ over terrtores % nter-
terrtoral wars2 and all that sort of stuE. .t all comes from people usn/
an a!lt" to remove people7s Jfreedom of choce72 !ecause o!vousl"2 f
"ou went around 0lln/ people2 "ou7re not allown/ people to choose
how ther lfe s.
Iot that C0peda s a !aston of facts2 t s a decent startn/ place:
8uote Ken/hs [han ,/]^_`^as ]0bcn/ or /]dd_`^as ]0bcn/2U4VU5V Qon/ol:
Ute`^as =ac`V ,lsten-f #hn/s/#hn/hs 0haanf ))6R? F Au/ust )RR'-2
!orn $emujn2 was the founder and Kreat [han ,emperor- of the Qon/ol
Empre2 whch !ecame the lar/est cont/uous empre n hstor" after
hs demse.
Ale=ander s the predecessor...
. a/ree wth "ou on the terr!le fate of the Iatve Amercans. Iot prett"
and not far...
g3reAorse
?arent ?ost
L.Hd rather have a !ottle n front of me than a frontal lo!otom".L
g <oroth" ?ar0er ,)8O(-)O6'-f 3oundn/ mem!er of the Al/on>un
5ound $a!le )O)O-)ORO
L$he" sa" the test of lterar" power s whether a man can wrte an
nscrpton. . sa" H#an he name a 0tten?HL
g :amuel 4utler ,)8(5-)ODR-f Author of Erewhon )8'R
Ce!master of $he #hrs $homas 3les
http://cosmco!servaton.wordpress.com/the-chrs-thomas-Gles/
,o they are gone now and we are here with the 5garden
!ariety5 negati!es)
?osted !" tur"a ,here-
:o2 f we start from the !e/nnn/2 shall we sa"6
$he Unverse that we nha!t s not the onl" unverse that e=sts6 .7m
not tal0n/ a!out mon0e"-verses of the sort of cosmolo/sts2 or the
>uantum ph"scsts2 wa" of tal0n/ F the" don7t reall" e=st. 4ut what .
mean s2 ph"scal unverses do e=st.
$he s/nGcance of our Unverse s e=plorn/ the thou/ht F a sort of
JChat .f?7 F so "ou have ths creatonar" source2 rolln/ around
whatever space he7s n6 /on/6 @Chat would happen f . dd ths?B 6
and that7s what the Unverse s set up to do. .ts lterall" an ener/"
envelope that allows that thou/ht to !e e=plored. And our Unverse s
essentall" e=plorn/ the concept of Jfreedom of choce7.
:o ever" soul that e=sts wthn ths Unverse s created wth that a!lt"
to freel" choose ther actons. $here s onl" one unversal law2 f "ou
wll2 whch s: "ou cannot act n such a wa" as to remove some!od"
else7s freedom to choose. :o2 essentall"2 ever"thn/ s allowa!le2 as
lon/ as "ou don7t !rea0 that one rule.
As . sa"2 there are other unverses2 and the unverse nearer to ours
e=plores the e=act opposte F @Chat f ever" soul that e=sts wthn that
unverse has the a!lt" to remove Jfreedom of choce7 F how does that
wor0. .t doesn7t wor0 ver" well2 as t turns out2 from what . can Gnd out
a!out t2 that unverse s n a state of collapse !ecause ts Gnshed2
essentall" ts just mplodn/ n on tself.
4ut some tme a/o2 the !en/s who e=st n that unverse F some of
them2 found a wa" to !rea0 nto our Unverse !" constructn/ what
ph"scsts would call6 cosmolo/sts would call the wormhole2 whch s2
theoretcall"2 !ac0 to !ac0 !lac0 hole2 so ts essentall" a two-wa" tu!e
that connects two re/ons of space to/ether.
:o what these !en/s mana/ed to do was to create a wormhole nto
our Unverse to tr" and o!tan as much ener/" as poss!le from our
Unverse to mantan ther poston n ther unverse whch the" 0new
was n a state of collapse. And that7s what the" dd was to !rea0 nto
ths Unverse.
. thn0 . see #hrs $homas referencn/ the 1elons /on/ nto the past
,over and over??-. Iow at Lths tmeL the" have !een removed.
Qchael $opper...do "ou thn0 what he sa"s here has an"thn/ to do
wth what #$ sa"s?
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.n the h/her denstes2 the Iame of the Kame s #onscousness. $hs
smpl" means that the h/her denstes of e=stence2 whether postve
or ne/atve n orentaton2 all reco/n9e that the !usness of all !en/
and e=stence ever"where s alwa"s that of #onscousness... !ecomn/
more and more LAware.L 7wareness is related to 5density5 of
consciousness, so to sa". The ,T, G,er!ice To ,elfH way of
achie!ing 5density of consciousness5 is to 5gain weight5 by
assimilation of other consciousness units. This is generally
promoted as 57ll is 4ne5 and refers to 5e!il5 as a 5rebellion5 or
a fault or something that will ultimately be 5done away with.5
,T4 G,er!ice To 4thersH, on the other hand sees 5gaining
weight5 in a di=erent way. (t sees that an acknowledgement of
the consciousness of 5other self5 as e:ual to its own
consciousness, in spite of completely di=erent manifestation of
that being, is the way to 5network5 the consciousness so that
the 'hole is greater than the sum of the parts.
$he dEerence s that the :$O /u"s reco/n9e conscousness as !en/
an Lnte/ratveL actvt" of mutual networ0n/ and nterdependence
!ecause they !iew all others as self, e!en if they are di=erent,
and therefore seek to help and assist because the other (, self
in an absolute internal sense. .n ths wa"2 A!solute #onscousness2
or Kod s L/lorGedL !" a marvelous dverst" of !en/ f "ou wsh to put
t n those terms.
The negati!e guys, on the other hand, play the game in terms
of domination, subEugation and absorption of other
consciousnesses into 54ne.5 . 4ut2 they too, understand that
the rules of the game posit that in order for them to truly
5absorb5 into their being these other 5consciousnesses,5 that
the 5other5 must choose to become part of their 5self-
aggrandiDement.5 7n unwilling 5food5 is, in essence, not
5nutritious5 so to say. (f the consciousness does not choose, it
becomes a 5poison5 to the consciousness that seeks to 5eat it.5
7nd so they must promote 54neness5 in a !ery particular way.
Iote that both sides acknowledge 54neness,5 but in !ery
di=erent ways.
:o2 we have to understand here that the true Ie/atve 5ealm a/enda
s to Leat conscousness.L :o2 ths actuall" prevents an overt Lta0e-
overL n lteral2 ph"scal terms. .f an LnvasonL was detected2 ths
would mean that the vel would !e lfted and all would see the Lman
!ehnd the curtanL and would !e ds/usted and turn awa". Sust as n
the LC9ard of O92L those 5u!" :lppers have to !e o!taned 1E5;
#A5E3UNN;W
Kathern/ the essence s an art of /reat su!tlet"W $he Lne/atve alen
planL s2 n ts purest sense2 :$AN[.IK.
The aim of ,talking is to create a completely controlled
arti"cial en!ironment composed of thoroughly predictable
human beha!iors - made predictable because they ha!e been
programmed to respond to cues of conditioning Jinculcated
through centuries of lies and obfuscations presented in the
form of religionsK and all of this re!ol!es around a *story* that
is actually untrue, and wholly misrepresentati!e of the real
negati!e aim.
For centuries these programming signals ha!e been being set
up - either because of time tra!el capabilities, or because of
actual historical presence. 1arous prophets or rel/ous leaders
have !een nXuenced to preach2 or teach or prophes" phlosophes
des/ned to la" a foundaton for later ta0e-over - poss!l" n our
present tme. 'hen people begin to get wise, the
3egati!es simply go back into the past, add
something more to the soup to 5co!er up5 the new
awareness. This then act as a domino e=ect and
in;uences our present. Time loops and all that. 7 lot
of people think that the 5alien in!asion scenario5 is a
ruse concocted by the go!ernment to create the
impression that there is a forming 5threat,5 thereby
enabling the institution of a 3ew 'orld 4rder. <ut,
this idea is based on a misrepresentation of the
process Eust described.
http://www.!!lotecaple"ades.net/c...r/topper)).htm
:omethn/ #hrs sad...no parallel tmelnes. . Gnd that a restrctn/
dea n tself. he references that the moment has poss!ltes and that
there s no future as the future s !en/ created all alon/ ,. thn0 .
uderstand that from what he sad-.
.f poss!ltes our creatve ma/naton entertan to !e true create the
future2 restrctn/ the sense of poss!lt" or e=pandn/ t would !e
moment !" moment. Alwa"s then we need to hold the h/hest
fre>uenc" poss!le to receve :OU5#E creator level 0nown/s and
demonstrate them? ,we are a0ashHs partner?-.
Ae references that we are Lan/elsL ,earth an/els-. .f we are part of
N.3E2 then we could consder ourselves the !earers of ma/natve
poss!lt" n our realm.
Our ma/naton cannot !e mned unless we a/ree. Ce can !e cajoled
!" a/reements that can come from varous nformaton levels
appealn/ to our level of apprecaton? for nstance we see that there s
a Lsacred /eometr"L and e=trapolate to laws and order. Ce apprecate
certan LdealsL. Ce Gnd ourselves n a whole realm of thou/htforms
promsn/ Lour dealL.
$he realm of fre>uenc" !en/s must !e vast.
Ce must !e aware of the spectrum and how to nav/ate t.
.f we L!rn/ nL channeled nformaton Gltered from the A0ashc2 t s all
past thou/hts. Ce seem to !e mprsoned n s the !readth of what we
can ma/ne.
. have to sa" that we cannot L!eleveL #$ an"more than an" other
source. 4" the emotonal clearn/2 we open up to a l/hter v!ratonal
fre>uenc". . ma" not !e a!le to channel an"thn/ that s for an"one
else. 4ecause of Glters2 he should just pa" attenton and e=pand as he
does and as he encoura/es us to do alsoWWW. . do apprecate hm
sharn/.
?a" attenton to what oneHs nner voce s sa"n/. 4e dedcated for
clearn/ the wa" to a /reater understandn/ of poss!lt". . !eleve we
can !furcate the present stream and chan/e tmelnes at an" moment
to a new condton. Ce do create n the present what s seen n the
future. $hat s somethn/ to consder readn/ and hearn/ ever"
sentence from a source of nformaton.
An Update On Our Evoluton !" #hrs $homas
8uote ?osted !" <el/ht ,here-
( ha!e to say that we cannot 5belie!e5 +T anymore than any
other source.
$o L!eleveL n what another sa"s2 s an attempt to ta0e a shortcut2 a
shortcut whch !"passes/avods Gndn/ out for oneself from oneHs own
e=perence. .n other words2 Lto !eleveL s that whch s !orrowed
nformaton ta0en as true.
Aowever2 what someone else sa"s2 whch comes from ther e=perence2
can !e used2 Gled awa"2 and later referenced2 n order to verf" that
whch s found from oneHs own e=perence.
.n lstenn/2 or readn/2 what another e=perences2 there s the
poss!lt" of that whch s sad2 % that whch s heard2 wll !e entrel"
two dstnctl" dEerent thn/s from what was actuall" e=perenced !"
the e=perencer. 3or2 the or/nal2 so to sa"2 wll /et Hlost n translatonH.
And that can occur at !ascall" two ponts. ,)- $he translaton whch
occurs when the wrter/spea0er Gnds the chosen words to e=press that
e=perencef and ,R- the translaton whch occurs when that whch s
sad s ta0en n !" the one that receves that nformaton2 a.0.a. that
whch s nterpreted !" the lstener / reader.
.n !oth cases2 the actual event s nether that whch s !en/ told
a!out2 nor s t that whch s read a!out2 or lstened to. As2 n the latter
case2 emotonal !a//a/e wll nterfere wth2 or act as a Glter that can
dstort what s !en/ sad.
8uote ?osted !" <el/ht ,here-
?a" attenton to what oneHs nner voce s sa"n/. 4e dedcated for
clearn/ the wa" to a /reater understandn/ of poss!lt".
$he nformaton that #hrs provdes n the HKve-Awa"H2 t s a /ood
method for clearn/ awa" the emotonal !a//a/e that would prevent
one from e=perencn/ for oneself that whch he spea0s2 and wrtes
a!out. #lear the /ar!a/e2 and the ntutve sense !ecomes /reater.
8uote ?osted !" <el/ht ,here-
. !eleve we can !furcate the present stream and chan/e tmelnes at
an" moment to a new condton. Ce do create n the present what s
seen n the future. $hat s somethn/ to consder readn/ and hearn/
ever" sentence from a source of nformaton.
#learn/ the emotonal /ar!a/e from the !od"mnd mechansm wll
also remove the condtoned reXe= response that s held wthn that
mechansm2 allown/ for one to move more easl" !e"ond ha!tual9ed
patterns of !ehavor that one has lved wth2 for perhaps2 most of oneHs
lfe. .n other words2 clearn/ the emotons allows for the poss!lt" for a
/reater num!er of free choces to !e made n creatn/ a poss!le future
for oneself.
tur"a
Ch" . Am Io Non/er a N/ht Cor0er
4" #ameron <a"2 on Au/ust R(rd2 RD)(
Io2 . haven7t turned to the dar0-sde2 !ut rather . am transcendn/
sdes. $hs artcle s pro!a!l" the most mportant pece . have wrtten
to date2 and n order to conve" the full messa/e2 a !t of !ac0-stor" s
necessar". Aan/ n there wth me2 and !" the end "ou wll understand
wh" . wll never call m"self a @l/htwor0erB a/an.
?lanet Earth and much of our corner of the unverse has !een under a
spell for a ver" lon/ tme2 a spell whch casts dou!t wthn our mnds
a!out whether or not we are connected wth the .nGnte :ource of all
creaton. $he spell causes us to feel alone2 vulnera!le and solated F
cast out from the Aeavenl" 5ealms nto a cruel2 do/-eat-do/ world.
$hs spell s pure Gcton2 a decepton of the h/hest order2 !ut t has
ta0en hold deepl" on ths and other worlds.
ntrnsc wthn ths holo/raphc spell s the noton that dualt" and
polart" are natural aspects of lfe2 and that we must serve one sde of
dualt" or the other. $hs ele/antl" smple !nar" mprnt has !ecome
so promnent that we have lost s/ht of the lar/er holo/raphc spell
that spawned t. .ndeed2 we have lost s/ht of the holo/ram all
to/ether2 and come to !eleve that t s the sum total of realt".
Aumans have !een condtoned to worshp the holo/raphc decepton
and the a/ents that perpetuate t. $hs holo/ram has !een called Qa"a
!" the Andus2 and the Knostcs referred to t as the #orrupt <emur/e.
. Gnd ths term a h/hl" accurate descrpton2 and from the pont
forward . wll refer to t as the corrupt demur/e...
Aello2 tur"a and all others that have posted on ths thread. . am IEC
here !ut2 have !een d//n/ around on the su!ject of #hrs $homas...
.Hve read several of #ameron <a"Hs posts and lstened to a couple of hs
Q?(s. $he pro!lem . have found wth #ameron s heHs ver" much nto
Archons and the <emur/e. Accordn/ to m" readn/s ,#ameronHs and
others-2 the <emur/e s the LKodL of the Old $estament and he s an
nsane reptlan. $he Archons are hs companons2 tadpole-l0e crtters
that supposedl" resem!le !a!" Kre"s ,as !est as . can /ather-. $hese
Archons are an LnfectonL and mess wth humanHs heads.
Iow2 enter #hrs $homas. #hrs $homas has mentoned the 5eptlan,s-
and the Archons2 and the" are not here2 an"more. $he" came nto our
Unverse from another Unverse and had the a!lt" to remove free wll
,ener/" patterns-. $he" were removed from ths Unverse2 he has
stated.
. would love clarGcaton on the <emur/e/5eptlan/Archon thn/. #hrs
sa"s the" are /one. #ameron ,and others- clam the" are stll here.
#an an"one oEer more nformaton? #an #hrs !e contacted a!out ths
,Aer!ert2 "ou appear to have hs ear...-?
$han0 "ouW
3reAorse
A 3reAorse2
3reAorse wrote:
8uote . would love clarGcaton on the <emur/e/5eptlan/Archon
thn/. #hrs sa"s the" are /one. #ameron ,and others- clam the" are
stll here.
:orr"2 . ddnHt /et !ac0 to "ou r/ht awa" on ths... .Hve !een prett"
preoccuped wth transposn/ the 5o!ert :tanle" ntervew nto a
wrtten format. And2 . found wthn that ntervew that #hrs does !rn/
up #ameron <a"Hs artcle2 LCh" . am Io Non/er a N/htwor0erL2 n
whch he states that the L<emur/eL that #ameron <a" uses s2 n fact2
the same as what #hrs $homas calls the 1elon. Accordn/ to #hrs
$homas2 the 1elon ,<emur/e- have !een evcted from ths planet %
solar s"stem2 !ut stll have the a!lt" to eEect human !en/s throu/h
ther use of channeled messa/es % materal.
;ou have rased a /ood >ueston2 thou/h2 to as0 #hrs $homas
drectl"...
:nce the Archons were mentoned n the earl" wrtn/s of the
:umeran cuneform cla" ta!lets2 s there a connecton !etween what
are called LArchonsL and what #hrs has dentGed as 1elon2 or were
the" part of the 3ourteenth 3acton?
#hrs spea0s of those h(D2DDD souls2 who were on ther wa" to Earth2
and had !een LnfectedL wth 3ourteen 3acton ener/es2 wth the
sudden manfestaton of the wormhole that connected ther unverse
wth ours. And2 as #hrs ponts out2 those LnfectedL souls started to
show up on Earth !e/nnn/ wth Ale=ander the Kreat % hs attempt to
con>uer the world2 followed !" the 5omans % later the 1atcan.
3rom ths . would suspect that the Archons are more a part of the 1elon
a/enda - n partcular2 wth those that traveled !ac0 n tme ,who later
/ot trapped there2 !ecause the" eEectvel" altered the future- to eEect
the hstor" of human !en/s throu/h the mplantn//dctatn/ ther
Annuna0 3antas" stor" to a :umeran ta!let ma0er. $hat stor"2
em!edded wthn the :umeran cla" ta!lets2 was later to !e found !"
archeolo/sts2 and then iechara :tchn would later pla" a 0e" role n
ts translaton - .e. ts !een ndcated that he actuall" receved
channeled messa/es from an Annuna0 entt" who had LhelpedL hm
wth translatn/ those wrtn/s.
.n other words2 all references to Archons2 should !e understood to
mean the 1elon. .t s a ver" /ood >ueston to pose to #hrs $homas2 as
. havenHt "et heard hm address ths partcular su!ject matter drectl". .
am just /on/ throu/h the 5ed .ce #reatons AourR of the ntervew
wth #hrs2 and . would !e surprsed f Aenr0 ?alm/ren ddnHt !rn/ ths
partcular thn/ up.
.n that 5o!ert :tanle" #hrs $homas ntervew2 #hrs also clarGes from
where the dea of a 5eptlan race,s- had come from. Ae states that the
onl" 5eptlan race heHs come across that s recorded wthn the A0ashc
s not from ths Unverse2 !ut connected wth the 3ourteenth 3acton2
who came here from an alto/ether dEerent unverse. $he" have !een
forcefull" evcted from ths Unverse ,as of RDDR-2 and sent !ac0 to
ther own2 whch s now n the process of /on/ throu/h a complete
collapse !ac0 nto source... ,ths s also the reason2 accordn/ to #hrs2
wh" we are presentl" seen/ wh" !lac0 holes appear to !e collapsn/-.
Aope ths helps...
tur"a
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58865-An-Update-
On-Our-Evoluton-!"-#hrs-$homas/pa/e5
: An Update On Our Evoluton !" #hrs $homas
$han0 "ou2 Aer!ert.
. was just now /on/ throu/h another #hrs Aales / Andrew 4art9s
ntervew ,Qa" R6 RD)(-2 whle ma0n/ a lst of the terms Andrew was
thrown/ out there2 and rather >uc0l" t was !ecomn/ >ute a rather
lar/e lst of terms - approachn/ what could !e sad to !e2 lterall" - Ha
!t overwhelmn/H2 to sa" the least. Q" sense was telln/ me that t was
,a/an- a hu/e dstracton2 and far more complcated than what ths
true realt" needed to !e. :o . dd a !t of dowsn/ on what . was
lstenn/ to... . l0e calln/ t as0n/ Lm" oracleL... :o . as0ed Hm" oracleH
several sets of >uestons: f ths nformaton was true... whether what .
was lstenn/ to was t false nformaton2 or was t just... ma/naton.
And then2 at that moment2 somethn/ came !ac0 to me... somethn/
that . remem!er readn/ a short whle a/o came to mnd... and ths
was a >uote re/ardn/ ma/naton. .t /oes somethn/ l0e ths:
L.ma/naton s a powerful facult"2 the most powerful. 5eason s just
mpotent n comparson to ma/naton.
7ll that happens, happens through imaginationV nothing
happens through reason. First it happens through imaginationV
then reason comes in and "gures it out, that*s okay. ?eason
comes only secondary0 it gi!es e$planations, analysis, makes
things clear, de-mysti"es things, but nothing e!er happens
through reason.
Sust the other da" . was readn/ a!out Al!ert Ensten. Ae sa"s that hs
theor" of relatvt" ddnHt happen throu/h reason. Ae relates a ver"
stran/e phenomenon. Ae sa"s2 Ht happened n m" !od"... .t was
0nesthetc.H he sa"s2 Ho!vousl"2 naturall"2 . was ver" much pu99led.H
Ae could not G/ure out what was happenn/. .t was somethn/ of a
!odl" sensaton and he could not even Gnd where to put t2 how to
p/eon-hole t2 nto what cate/or"2 and what concepts to use for t.
3or months he remaned dsma"ed2 !ut he contnued to search and
see0 to put t nto ratonal terms. 4ut ths s ver" stran/ef he sa"s2 Ht
happened Grst n m" !od"2 a !odl" sensaton2 and then for months
had to Gnd words and lan/ua/e and mathematcal formulas to put t n
order.H
All that happens s ntutve. .t s "our power....
$hat ma/naton wll create man" trou!les for "ou !ecause the
ma/naton s there2 the power s there2 !ut f "ou are not "et n a
state of medtaton2 f "ou have not2 as of "et2 e=perenced medtaton2
ma/naton can !ecome ver" destructve f there s no medtatve
>ualt" around tf then t can /o !erser0.
$he same ma/naton can !ecome madness. Qadness s ma/naton
/one !erser02 thatHs all. Mad people are !ery imaginati!e people0
they could ha!e been great poets or painters or in!entors or
mystics. Many mad people ha!e the :ualities of the mystics,
and all the mystics ha!e the :ualities of mad peopleV it is the
same imagination.
.ma/naton alone s dan/erous. .ma/naton plus medtaton2 then "ou
are n a r/ht !alance. $hen the medtaton wll never allow "ou to /o
!e"ond the lmt...L
:OU5#E: 3ar 4e"ond the :tars2 #hapter )6
$hat s not to sa" Andrew 4art9s s poss!l" mad2 nsane2 or just
some!od" wth an overl" actve ma/naton... ts just somethn/ that .
found on the nternet % remem!er readn/. And2 t just /ves me pause
n consdern/ what . have heard at one tme come from Keor/e
[avasslas2 and2 more recentl"2 what . hear comn/ from Andrew
4art9s.
An Update On Our Evoluton !" #hrs $homas
8uote ?osted !" Aer!ert ,here-
$ur"a as0ed me to as0 #hrs $homas for hs ta0e on Andrew 4art9s.
$hs s hs repl":
;ou are the Grst person to as0 me a!out Andrew 4art9s - .Hve never
heard of hm !efore.
. dd ta0e a >uc0 loo0 on the net and was partcularl" unmpressed
!oth wth hm2 as a person Gtoo much ego and glitD- and as a
channel.
. was surprsed that he ddnHt clam to !e :ananda as well seen/ as
ever"one else seems to these da"s.
3or some "ears now2 the 1elon have !een clamn/ that the" have sole
access to an a0ashc that s Lh/herL than the actual A0ashc and onl"
the" have access to ths h/her one.
.t s just ru!!sh. Virtually e!erything <artDis claims is wrong and
Eust intended to mislead people back into the clutches of the
VelonW8alactic FederationW 4TTTWIrakeWIragon FamilyW,ananda.
$here s onl" one wa" of dealn/ wth ths 0nd of materal and that s
to as0 "ourself:
5(s this something ( can belie!e is true)5
(f yes then best of luck to you.
(f no then you need to "nd something you feel is true.
. can onl" sa" what . have sad n m" !oo0s2 essa"s and artcles. Qan"
people have sad that m" wor0 str0es true to them whlst the Lother
a0ashcL clams just feel wron/.
4est wshes
#hrs
Iow that we 0now #hrsH vew from an ntal !ref loo0 at 4art9s2 . am
ver" much nterested n ever"one here who has reached reasona!le
/rounded !alance throu/h don/ ther nner wor0 throu/h /ve awa"s2
and an" other means "ouHve found to help - Aow do "ou feel a!out the
Gne prnt contract revocatons?
. should prnt out a transcrpt from hs 5evoluton 5ado ntervew. there
s a lot n t.
:hattern/ the matr= Sul"2 RD)(
:ource: http://www."outu!e.com/watch?v&#ASSIcjlhwc
. have not made m" mnd up entrel" after tr"n/ some of hs
revocatons. .Hm stll open after pc0n/ out a lst of thn/s he sa"s
whch put up Xa/s.
4ut please do share "our own perspectve.
Ae" Aer!ert2 . was thn0n/ that snce t was found that Andrew 4art9s
s aPlated wth the Ashtar #ommand2 perhaps "ou should send #hrs
$homas !ac0 an emal2 telln/ hm that heHs !een found to !e spot on
wth hs remar0s concernn/ 4art9s... just to /ve hm some feed!ac0..
ts2 of course2 entrel" up to "ou.
tur"a
An Update On Our Evoluton !" #hrs $homas
.tHs >ute a whle snce . have vsted so . want to than0 Ealss for the
ener/" she !rn/s to the thread and all of us. Also than0s to Soe" for hs
encoura/ement and thou/hts whch /o a lon/ wa" these da"s. Klad
"ou were a!le to Gnall" post the entre $erje $oftenes ntervew $ur"a.
Chen Ealss tal0ed a!out the han/n/ lower lp of the Grst #ro Qa/nons
who operated from a /roup soul . just could not help !ut thn0 of 4ll
Qurra" n #add" :hac0. :Y-- Csh . 0new how to post that ma/e here.
.tHs a dra/ not !en/ /ood wth computers.
Iot sure whatHs !een /on/ on wth #.$. !ut he sad he would tell me
later. .tHs just as well he ta0es a !rea0 snce we all 0now how loo0n/
outsde of ourselves for answers s the e=act opposte to where we
should !e placn/ our attenton.
.t s the nner chan/es whch chan/e the outsde world. And #hrs does
provde nstructon on how to access our h/her selves and the A0ashc
n hs last !oo0 :"nthess.
.7ve /otten a few reples from #hrs $homas latel" to >uestons whch .
needed clarGed to ensure that . would not !e ms>uotn/ hm.
Apparentl" some people clam to !e actuall" channelln/ #hrs $homas
and others sometmes wll ms->uote hm whch can lead to ms-
nformaton !en/ passed on !" those who do not /o drectl" to hs
essa"s and or !oo0s and ntervews.
. wll compact the essental 8%A to ma0e them clear.
8ueston *) from Aer!ert: 5e/ardn/ :chumann 5esonance2 wh" are
the Je=perts at Q.$ sa"n/ :chumann 5esonance has not chan/ed
when "ou sa" t s movn/ up to (5DD ths "ear and alread" !e/an
jumpn/ n <ecem!er RD)(?
Answer from #$ : $he resonance s alwa"s >uoted as !en/ '.56 A9.
.n an" case . would trust the A0ashc over a machne an" da".
8ueston *R from Aer!ert:
http://!oddhportal.!lo/spot.nl/RD)4...serousl".html
Ir Taul Qa Violette article claims, with references, that
7stronomers ha!e spotted this giant energy wa!e and suggest
it could impact arth energies !ery soon in >2@N. (s this wa!e
for real) and if so, will these new energies "nally gi!e people
the impetus to free themsel!es from those decepti!e, insidious
channellings)
Answer from #$ : $here are numerous !ands of ener/" headn/ our
wa" as we approach the pont at whch we reach (.5 [A9.
$he choce of who one channels s down to the channeler and ther
h/her self. $he source can as0 for access !ut cannot ma0e the choce
for the channeler. $hese @.nsdeousB channeln/s are the choce of the
channeler. $here are a varet" of :!en/s out there that have mschef
n mnd. .t s up to the channeler who the" channel.
8ueston *( from Aer!ert: (s there still an energy band around
our solar system put there by the Velon to pre!ent clear
communications into and out of our ,olar ,ystem and to
pre!ent new energies from entering?
Answer from #$: <d . conGrm that such a !and e=sts? . don7t
remem!er sa"n/ that the 1elon had created such a !and.
8ueston *4 from Aer!ert: <o "ou a/ree wth ths assessment that
seems to !e prevalent amon/st a lot of forums and forum mem!ers.
?a"n/ partcular attenton to the part n !lue ,whch . feel s total
msnformaton- wth "our repl".
@7t the physical0 9uman kind are under a full scale attack from
e!ery concei!able angle at e!ery le!el of consciousness
engineered by an en!ious, angry disgusting in!isible force that
cowardly uses puppet humans baited by lust 6 greed to
facilitate its intentions of genocide, currently terra forming
mother earth, till the species human becomes obsolete./
.7t the astral0 following death 6 the usual e$perience be it
<ardo or hea!enly, the minionsWangels working for the in!isible
masters will welcome you 6 shower you with nir!ana, mind
wipe you 6 return you back to the cycle of human
forgetfulness, sla!ery, !ictimhood 6 karma./
.There really is 34 ,+7T tis the cyclic Eourney of the human
which entombs our di!ine spark/
All the drama % crap around % !e"ond our human form s of course the
cosmc su!terfu/e....
Answer from #$: .t7s a total load of #rap - k$aurus E=cretal
An Update On Our Evoluton !" #hrs $homas
. would ver" much l0e to 0now where "ou too0 that e=erpt of :mon
?ar0es2 the second para/raph !elow ,the Grst could !e what he sa"s-. .
have no recollecton of readn/ an"thn/ from the second para/arph at
all. And t seems contrar" to what he n fact sa"s.
8uote partcular attenton to the part n !lue ,whch . feel s total
misinformation coming from ,imon TarkesH wth "our repl".
@7t the physical0 9uman kind are under a full scale attack from
e!ery concei!able angle at e!ery le!el of consciousness
engineered by an en!ious, angry disgusting in!isible force that
cowardly uses puppet humans baited by lust 6 greed to
facilitate its intentions of genocide, currently terra forming
mother earth, till the species human becomes obsolete.B
@At the astral: follown/ death % the usual e=perence !e t 4ardo or
heavenl"2 the mnons/an/els wor0n/ for the nvs!le masters wll
welcome "ou % shower "ou wth nrvana2 mnd wpe "ou % return "ou
!ac0 to the c"cle of human for/etfulness2 slaver"2 vctmhood %
0arma.B
.There really is 34 ,+7T tis the cyclic Eourney of the human
which entombs our di!ine spark/
Aer!ert2 than0 "ou for the 0ndness.
Also than0 "ou for sharn/ the reples. . Gnd t so refreshn/ that #hrs
$homas s so drect and honest. Io weavn/ or XuE. Ae ma0es me
lau/h2 lol.
7s for ,imon Tarkes. ( don't listen to people like him. (t is my
belief that either he is consciously misleading people or he is
being mislead himself and passing on the info without realiDing
what he is doing. 7nd in general as soon as a person starts
gi!ing me foggy, haDy, hokus pokus big word mumbo Eumbo
descriptions that sounds 5super woooowwww5 to people, then
( am already out the door. (t is too much like a TV preacher. (
know that is cynical but 5new age5 has pro!en itself to be
smack full of lies and snake oil salesmen so ( approach
e!eryone like they were used car salesmen or were trying to
sell me insurance.
. admt that m" temper /oes a !t... lol. :orr". 4ut at least now . 0now
where that !t a!out Lmnd wpeL and evl heaven comes from. CA;
does an"one lsten? .t s untrueW ;our 4: detector was !an/ on.
. heard ths a/es a/o !tw... not sure what !elef s"stem t !elon/s to.
One of the old 5Ds /urus that tal0ed a!out eternal lfe2 . thn0. ?art of
the whole [rshnamurt2 KurdjeE2 tantrc dance2 thn/ somehow. .t s
smpl" not true. LQnd wpeL. Krrrr. 34, we do not go 5blank5 and
then get recycled. 'e are not metal parts from a car dump.
As . tr" to remnd m"self of #hrs $homas advce to for/et a!out the
horrors n the world and focus on getting the whole soul into the
body2 - as well as ?enne" ?erce sa"n/ that the chan/e .: happenn/
all over earth weather people want t or not2 ---- . stll stru//le wth
sadness.
. also e=pect a ' "ear worldwde famne f m" premonton dream s
correct ,and the Qa"ans apparentl" a/ree !ut donHt have a specGc
"ear for t-.
Earth... . medtated and felt earth sa" to me that those who love earth
wll lve and those who donHt2 wll de. . !eleve that no matter what
nsane trc0s the 1elons do2 the" wll de/!e sent awa" soon an"wa".
$he" have no choce.
E<.$E< Qarch )st: . have done a lot of comments n the other thread
re: :mon ?ar0es and the fear of d"n/ that $ur"a 0ndl" ln0s to !elow.
,$han0 "ou2 $ur"a.- . !etter 0eep t all over there. :orr" a!out ventn/
l0e ths n here. ,. am also removn/ other parts of the vent. . was
reall" !lue and tred last n/ht. :orr"2 ever"one.- Ce stll have a chance
and t ma" not end up as !ad as all of that for ever"one.
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<onHt /o nto the l/ht - <scusson thread
. recentl" saw the :mon ?ar0es ntervew and he sad that when we de
we shouldnHt /o nto the l/ht. . would l0e to 0now more a!out ths. .
have studed multple I<EHs onlne and ths fascnates me. Chere
should we /o?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68O)6-<on-t-/o-nto-
the-l/ht-:mon-?ar0es
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?5OD56-Kon/-nto-
l/ht-after-death...-or-not
Kon/ nto l/ht after death... or not?
After our !od" des our e=stence contnues n non-ph"scal form. .t7s
!een often sad that there s a whte l/ht where we all should !e /on/.
.f we don7t /o2 we are supposed to !e trapped n earth astral plane as
@/hostsB or lost sprts. Aowever2 . have some serous dou!ts f ths s
the whole truth n ths matter. First of all, ( don*t personally
belie!e that our endless reincarnation cycle with .karma/ and
memory loss Gaka tabula rasaH is a natural state, but rather an
arti"cial creation. 4" whom2 . don7t 0now2 !ut most l0el" it*s a part
of the control system of this prison planet. After we ph"scall"
de2 our sprtual essence must !e collected somehow to !e prepared
for the ne=t round n ph"scalt" wth erased mnd. . suspect that the
whte l/ht we supposedl" see after death s the actual means for ths
@soul collectonB. :ome wld speculatons even sa" that there s some
0nd of machne n moon that stores our souls and puts them !ac0 nto
the treadmll of (d ph"scalt".
On the other hand if you don*t go into the light. 'hat happens
then) Lou miss the hea!en) $he ne=t level up from (d ph"scalt" s
the astral plane. (f we ha!e a control system going e!erywhere, (
doubt that the astral would be an e$ception. Following that
logic, lea!ing earth astral plane freely would not likely be
possible either.
(f you are a person who doesn*t agree with being sla!e or
controlled by any means, you might not like either of the
options abo!e. :upposedl" we have /ven our a/reement to pla"
these /ames and /et trapped nto the c"cle when we Grst arrved here.
And supposedl" !" soul evoluton n aeons of tme we are /on/ to /et
free from t. On the second thou/ht aren7t we free sprts now2 not after
another half mllon "ears n an artGcall" created control s"stem wth
!lan0 mnd? :ome of "ou m/ht sa" that revolt s the certan s/n of
not !en/ read" to leave earth plane "et. 5e/ardless of that2 . !eleve
ac>uescence s a state of mnd l0e self sovere/nt" s another. . would
l0e to have some dscusson a!out ths topc. 7re you going into the
light) 'hy) 'hat other options there might be)
.f ths topc has !een dscussed alread"2 feel free to post the ln0.
$han0s for readn/.
$he !ottom lne.
.s do "ou 0now what "ou are?
Ever"thn/ else s entertann/ and has ts place2 !ut a dstracton f
"ou are serous a!out enl/htenment--escapn/ the c"cle of !rth and
death [arma etc.
. have never heard or read n a !oo0 !" an" commonl" accepted
enl/htened one even one para/raph a!out ascended masters alens
etc.
;es Sesus mentoned2 An/els !reX" !ut the whole focus s a!out the
reader realsn/ that the" are n fact Kod. ,Kod-realsaton---:elf
relsaton-
Iow assumn/ thousands of "ears2 /eneratons of enl/htened teachers
are r/ht2 then who needs ascended masters?
$o "our own self !e true.
$eachers pont the wa" !ut nherent wthn ever" one s the $ruth--- "ou
are One wthout a second.
Sust a >ueston of realsn/ that--- not eas" !ut poss!le.
Kon/ nto the l/ht?---;ou are the l/ht
<annon 4rn0le" of I<E fame sad $he !en/ that "ou meet on the
other sde s "ou.
#hrs
Chat the $!etan 4oo0 of the <ead has to sa" a!out ths rn/s true to
me.
8uote $he $!etan 4oo0 of the <ead
$he Kreat N!eraton Upon Aearn/ n the .mmedate :tate
$he $!etan 4oo0 of the <ead2 whose actual ttle s L$he Kreat
N!eraton upon Aearn/ n the .ntermedate :tateL or L4ardo $hodolL2
s tradtonall" !eleved to !e the wor0 of the le/endar" ?adma
:am!hava n the 8th centur" A.<. $he !oo0 acts as a /ude for the
dead durn/ the state that ntervenes death and the ne=t re!rth. Ae s
consdered to !e one of the Grst persons to !rn/ 4uddhsm to $!et.
The <ardo Thodol is a guide that is read aloud to the dead
while they are in the state between death and reincarnation in
order for them to recogniDe the nature of their mind and attain
liberation from the cycle of rebirth.
The <ardo Thodol teaches that once awareness is
freed from the body, it creates its own reality as one
would e$perience in a dream. This dream occurs in
!arious phases GbardosH in ways both wonderful and
terrifying. 4!erwhelming peaceful and wrathful
!isions and deities appear. ,ince the deceased's
awareness is in confusion of no longer being
connected to a physical body, it needs help and
guidance in order that enlightenment and liberation
occurs. The <ardo Thodol teaches how we can attain 3ir!ana
by recogniDing the hea!enly realms instead of entering into
the lower realms where the cycle of birth and rebirth continue.
$he follown/ s a descrpton of the !ardo realms that one travels
throu/h after death.
The First <ardo 7fterlife ?ealm
The "rst bardo comes at the !ery moment of death, when
there dawns the +lear Qight of the #ltimate ?eality. This is the
!ery content and substance of the state of liberation, if only
the soul can recogniDe it and act in a way to remain in that
state. $he nstructons ntended to !e read at the moment of the
personHs death are des/ned to help hm do ths. Ae s told2 Grst of all2
to em!race ths supreme e=perence not n a selGsh and e/ostc wa"
!ut rather wth love and compasson for all sentent !en/s. $hs wll
ad hm n the second step2 whch s to realiDe that his own mind
and self is identical with the +lear Qight, implying that he
himself (, the #ltimate ?eality, 5the All-/ood 4uddhaL2
transcendn/ tme2 eternt"2 and all creaton. .f he can reco/n9e ths
whle n ths supreme state at the moment of death2 he wll attan
l!eraton-that s2 he wll reman n the #lear N/ht forever. $hs
condton s called the L<harma0a"aL2 the h/hest sprtual !od" of the
4uddha.
Most souls, howe!er, will fail to do this. They will be pulled
down by the weight of their karma into the second stage of the
"rst bardo, called the ,econdary +lear Qight seen immediately
after death.
At ths pont2 there are separate nstructons to !e read accordn/ to
the sprtual condton of the person whle n lfe. 3or an ndvdual
advanced n medtaton and other sprtual practces2 there s repeated
over and over the same nstructons as at the moment of death2
enjonn/ hm to reco/n9e hmself as the <harma0a"a.3or a person
who was stll at a student-level on the sprtual path2 there s the
njuncton for hm to medtate on hs Ltutelar" det"L2 that s2 the
partcular /od for whom he performed devotonal practces whle alve.
3nall"2Lf the deceased !e of the common fol0L2 unpractced n an"
sprtual dscplnes2 the nstructon s to Lmedtate upon the Kreat
#ompassonate NordL2 whch s to sa" an LAvatarL worshpped !" the
multtude2 e>uvalent to Sesus as conceved !" the avera/e #hrstan.
$he :econd 4ardo
(f the soul is still not liberated at this stage, it will descend
into the second bardo, which is said to last for two weeks. The
second bardo is also di!ided into two partsV in the "rst, the
soul of the deceased encounters what are referred to as 5the
Teaceful Ieities.54n each of the se!en days, a particular
<uddha-being will appear in radiance and glory, with a be!y of
angelic attendants. 7t the same time, on each day in turn
there will shine a light from one of the si$ worlds of the
<uddhist uni!erse, called5Qokas5 Gthe basic meaning is
5place5Vour nglish words 5location5 and 5locale5 are deri!ed
from the same ,anskrit rootH.
On the Grst da" of the second !ardo2 there appears to the soul the
dvne 3ather-Qother - that s2 the supreme det" of the unverse2
transcendn/ all dualtes2 ncludn/ the dvson nto se=es. $he ne=t
step n the destn" of the soul s determned !" hs reacton to ths Kod.
.f hs lfe on Earth was well lved2 he wll now !e n a state of purt" and
/race2 and he wll enter nto the jo" of the Kod and attan l!eraton. .f
on the other hand he has lved an /no!le and mpous lfe2 the eEects
of hs !ad 0arma wll cause the ntense radant presence of the Kod to
str0e fear and terror n hs heart2 and he wll !e drawn nstead to the
softer l/ht of the <eva-No0a2 whch has dawned alon/ wth ths det".
$hs s stll a farl" attractve fate2 for the <evas are the Kods ,or
an/els-2 and ther No0a s e>uvalent to the #hrstan heavenf however2
the 4uddhst teachn/ s that even heaven s not the h/hest sprtual
o!jectve2 !ecause t s stll onl" a temporar" state n the manfest
unverse. N!eraton s !eleved to !e the onl" Gnal and permanent
restn/-place for the soul2 an un-manfest state !e"ond all e=stence.
On the second da"2 there appears the second-h/hest Kod n the
4uddhst pantheon - n fact2 he s actuall" the :econd ?erson n the
lteral 4uddhst Aol" $rnt". At the same tme2 there dawns a smo0"
l/ht from hellf and here we note that2 just as the 4uddhst heaven s
not a permanent2 eternal state2 nether s ts hell. Even the most
wretched souls wll eventuall" wor0 ther wa" out of even the deepest
pt of hell2 just as even the h/hest and purest souls wll eventuall" lose
ther footn/ n heaven and descend a/an nto the c"cle of death and
re!rth. N!eraton s the onl" wa" out.
Once a/an2 f the soul responds to the Lda99ln/ whte l/htLof the
second Kod wth the jo" of a pure heart2 he wll !e l!erated there!"f
!ut f he specGcall" reacts wth AIKE5 from havn/ ndul/ed n ths
vce on Earth2 he wll recol from the l/ht n fear and !e drawn nto
hell.
$he pattern s repeated on the thrd da"f ths tme t s the fault f
e/otsm that wll cause the soul to react to the Kod wth fear2 and he
wll !e drawn to the human world2 where hs ne=t ncarnaton wll
there!" ta0e place. On the fourth da" dawns the Kod of Eternal Nfef f
the soul has a ne/atve reacton to hm !ecause of mserlness and
attachment2 he wll !e drawn toward re!rth n the ?reta-No0a2 a world
ofLhun/r" /hostsLwho have hu/e stomachs and throats the s9e of
pnholes2 and so the" wander a!out n a constant state of unsatsGed
ravenous desre. On the Gfth da" comes Kod n the form of an Alm/ht"
#on>uerorf ths tme tHs jealous" that wll unseat the soul2 and he wll
!e !orn nto the Asura-No0a2 a world of Gerce warror-detes ,or
demons-. On the s=th da" all the detes return and dawn to/ether2
alon/ wth the l/hts from all s= No0as. On the seventh da" there
appear the [nowled/e-Aoldn/ <etes2 who are more Gerce and
demonc-loo0n/ than those that have prevousl" dawnedfand n fact
the" are sort of a transtonal element to the ne=t sta/e of the second
!ardo2 where the soul encounters the wrathful detes. Qeanwhle2 f
!ecause of stupdt" the soul cannot face the [nowled/e-Aoldn/
<etes2 he s drawn toward the 4rute-No0a - that s2 he wll !e re!orn
on Earth as an anmal.
.n the second wee0 of the second !ardo2 the soul meets seven le/ons
of Crathful <etes: hdeous2 terrf"n/ demons who advance upon hm
wth Xame and sword2 drn0n/ !lood from human s0ulls2 threatenn/ to
wrea0 unmercful torture upon hm2 to mam2 dsem!owel2 decaptate
and sla" hm.$he natural tendenc"2 of course2 s for the soul to attempt
to Xee from these !en/s n star02 screamn/2 !lood-curdled terrorf!ut
f he does2 all s lost. $he nstructons at ths sta/e of the 4ardo are for
the soul to have no fear2 !ut rather to reco/n9e that the Crathful
<etes are reall" the ?eaceful <etes n ds/use2 ther dar0 sde
manfestn/ as a result of hs own evl 0arma. $he soul s told to calml"
face each demon n turn and vsual9e t as the det" t trul" s2 or else
as hs own tutelar" det"f f he can do ths2 he wll mer/e wth the !en/
and attan the second de/ree of N!eraton2 that lesser aspect of t
whch s now the !est he can hope for here n the second !ardo.
3urthermore2 he s told to awa0en to the fact that all these fearsome
creatures are not real2 !ut are merel" llusons emanatn/ from hs own
mnd. .f he can reco/n9e ths2 the" wll vansh and he wll !e
l!erated..f he canHt2 he eventuall" wanders down to the thrd !ardo.
$he $hrd 4ardo
.n the thrd !ardo the soul encounters the Nord of <eath2 a fearsome
demonc det" who appears n smo0e and Gre2 and su!jects the soul to
a Sud/ment. .f the dead person protests that he has done no evl2 the
Nord of <eath holds up !efore hm the Qrror of [arma2 Lwheren ever"
/ood and evl act s vvdl" reXected.L Iow demons approach and !e/n
to nXct torments and punshments upon the soul for hs evl deeds.
$he nstructons n the 4ardo $hodol are for hm to attempt to
reco/n9e the 1odness of all these !en/s2 ncludn/ the Nord of <eath
hmselff the dead person s told that ths entre scene unfoldn/ around
hm s a projecton from hs own mnd. Even here he can attan
l!eraton !" reco/n9n/ ths.
$he soul who s stll not l!erated after the Sud/ment wll now !e drawn
remorselessl" toward re!rth.
$he l/hts of the s= No0as wll dawn a/anf nto one of these worlds the
soul must !e !orn2 and the l/ht of the one he s destned for wll shne
more !r/htl" than the others.$he soul s stll e=perencn/ the
fr/htenn/ appartons and suEern/s of the thrd !ardo2 and he feels
that he wll do an"thn/ to escape from ths condton. Ae wll see0
shelter n what appear to !e caves or hdn/-places2 !ut whch are
actuall" the entrances to wom!s. Ae s warned of ths !" the te=t of
the 4ardo $hodol2 and ur/ed not to enter them2 !ut to medtate upon
the #lear N/ht nsteadf for t s stll poss!le for hm to acheve the
thrd de/ree of l!eraton and avod re!rth.
3nall" there comes a pont where t s no lon/er poss!le to attan
l!eraton2 and after ths the soul s /ven nstructons on how to choose
the !est wom! for a favora!le ncarnaton. $he !asc method s non-
attachment:to tr" to rse a!ove !oth attracton to worldl" pleasures
and repulson from worldl" lls.
$he Gnal words of the 4ardo $hodol are: LNet vrtue and /oodness !e
perfected n ever" wa".L
L4e not fond of the dull smo0e-colored l/ht from hell.L - $!etan 4oo0
of the <ead
.t too0 me a lon/ tme to understand conceptonall" and stll a !t to
/o2 that we are not human !en/s.
Ce are conscousness n the ds/use of human form.
#onscousness s formless and therefore nether male nor female
As <an sad the thou/ht/!elef s"stem s so powerful that t wll ta0e
the !eler to whatever t !eleves s so after leavn/ the !od".
.f enl/htenment has occurred n ths lfe tme then thats the last
ncarnaton here.
.f we stll have not realsed what we are then return to mser" s
nevta!le as ponted out n the 4uddha >uotaton.
Ce are not the !od" not even a who--that denotes dualt"---we are the
totalt" all of t.
Iasar/adatta was a sprtual Kenus as was 5amana Qaharsh the" are
comn/ from drect realsaton of $ruth2 not second-hand !oo0 learned
nformaton !ut drect awareness.
$me spent readn/ what the" have left !ehnd s tme well spent.
.ts not necessarl" eas" to understand !ut the words n the !oo0s carr"
the ener/" of enl/htenment.
;ou n "our essence s what "ou see0. Ec0hart $olle sad
L#onscousness s evolvn/ to 0now t selfL
.f "ou want to 0now what happens when "ou leave the !od" the loo0 at
the I<E on u tu!e-- ther e=perences are smlar.
Aere s <annon
Kon/ nto l/ht after death... or not?
8uote ?osted !" dpwsh" ,here-
8uote ?osted !" 3nefeather ,here-
.t seems pontless to me to attempt an" e=planaton of ths process n
vew of the fact that we are all n dEerent states of awareness. . was
/vn/ "ou m" opnon !ased on 4D "ears of O4 rescue wor0 . have
!een nvolved n. $hs wor0 nvolves !oth the lvn/ and the HdeadH and
. have helped people who have ded lterall" mnutes after the event. .n
all varants of ths e=perence . have had2 . have seen and !en/ n the
presence of the h/her self of the person nvolved and n all cases ths
ta0es the form of a most !eautful whte l/ht whch draws the person
to a place of 0nown/ and comfort.
A/reed2 some even h/her than "ours.
4ut whos to sa" whos where and who 0nows what?
:eems l0e a /ant /eneral9aton to me.
. could spt out m" credentals also2
!ut . have no desre to seem an" more cred!le.
$hs trap s"stem /oes all the wa" up to the top m" frend2
there are evolved !en/s that are 1E5; h/hl" evolved n ths s"stem2
that stll do not see t for what t trul" s.
$he" are lost n the lluson just as much as lower !en/s.
Sust !ecause there are la"ers2 doesnHt mean t snHt a trap.
. 0now the l/ht "ou tal0 of !ut . ar/ue t s not the same as the l/ht
construct that appears after death. $hs can !e !" passed and should.
$hs s what /ves us amnesa of our e=perences. .f a Kod trul" wanted
us to /row and learn from our e=perences2 wh" would the" /ve us
such an ama9n/l" short perod n a !od" n whch ts almost nearl"
mposs!le to ever free "ourself or learn what we need to n one lfe to
move on. $hen2 even f we /et O8m of the wa" there n a lfe2 when we
de we for/et ever"thn/. ;ou reall" thn0 ths s the creaton of the
:ource of Nove? Aow lovn/....
A dpwsh"
$r" not to fall oE "our horse as "ou race to all "our assumptons.... was
not /vn/ "ou credentals.... was /vn/ "ou perspectve...and m"
opnon !ased on t.
. have heard "our ar/ument and vew man" tmes n lfe2 as well as
here on ths forum2 and "ou wll contnue wth "our thn0n/ untl "ou
see another sde of the stor"...f "ou do...n ths lfe.... accept that...such
s the nature of conscousness...!ut when we cease to see0 out
truth...that s when sta/naton causes the e/o to nvent tHs own realt"
!ased on tHs own assumptons.
;ou also ma0e the !//est error when "ou assume that...and . >uote
"ou... Lthere are evolved !en/s that are 1E5; h/hl" evolved n ths
s"stem2 that stll do not see t for what t trul" s.L...dd the" tell "ou
ths?...and f not...how would "ou 0now what a h/hl" advanced 4en/
0nows? . would su//est to "ou that the lluson les wthn "ourself and
certanl" not wth them. ;our entre post s n m" opnon an
assumpton !ased on "our own lac0 of 0nowled/e and Grst hand
e=perence...to/ether wth all the man" stores "ou have read !" those
who have the same pont of vew as "ou do...at ths pont n "our
lfe...does that ma0e t r/ht?
$a0e care
5a"
Allow me to nterject a !ref hstorc o!servaton nto ths de!ate.
$wo thousand "ears after the death of the one alle/ed to !e called
Sesus2 n )O452 there was unearthed at Ia/ Aammad2 E/"pt a l!rar"
of Gft" some Kospels and other assorted te=t. $hs l!rar" was wrtten
around the turn of the #ommon Era. $hs N!rar" was unmolested2
!ured n the desert for nearl" two thousand "ears.
$hese $e=t tell a completel" dEerent stor" than the !oo0 0nown as the
Iew $estament. $he" tell of a man who was crucGed !" the 5oman
Empre. $he" descr!e a man who was not someone clamn/ to !e the
:on of Kod2 rather someone telln/ Aumant" that we are all a ?art of
Kod. As name was ;eshua !en Soseph.
Accordn/ to these Ia/ Aammad $e=t2 ;ahweh ,Sehovah- s the
representaton of the <ar0 3orce. ;eshua !en Soseph spo0e of Sehovah
!en/ a trap2 that there were Archons who were part of ths trap2 and
most mportant2 how to avod ths trap.
Iow2 two thousand "ears later we Gnd-out the whole Aol" 4!le
Q"tholo/" s one !/ le2 cleverl" concealed n a !oo0 wth a whole lot
of $ruth.
$hs lttle vew of our hstor" s a te=t!oo0 e=ample of how the Qass of
Aumant" has !een led to snce the <awn of Qan.
Iow....
. personall" !eleve the whte l/ht .: part of the trap. $here s entrel"
too much evdence to draw one to ths concluson.
.f t were m" choce2 . would search for the KON<EI N.KA$. Kold s the
color of NO1E.
5esearch 5eference:
http://www.!!lotecaple"ades.net/na.../contents.htm
Kon/ nto l/ht after death... or not?
8uote ?osted !" dpwsh" ,here-
$he l/ht s what strps "ou of "our memores and e=perences and
tosses "ou !ac0 nto the c"cle of rencarnaton. Enl/htenment s
0nown/ not to /o nto the l/ht.;our lfe should !e a preparaton for
death. ;ou should !e preparn/ and practcn/ for that one moment2
that wa" at the moment of death "ou can 0eep "our awareness and
not drft oE nto a LsleepL. $hs s wh" medtaton and astral projecton
s so mportantW $he" are preparatons to !e a!le to 0eep "our
conscousness at the moment of death..f "ou can sta" conscous here2
the Grst thn/ "ou should as0 for wthout hestaton s to as0 to
e=perence "our Ltrue selfL. ?ro/ram "ourself so that ths s the Grst
thou/ht and onl" thou/ht that /oes throu/h "our mnd. <onHt !e
dstracted !" the real9aton of death2 !" the astonshment2 !eaut" and
so forth. ;our onl" desre and demand should !e to e=perence the true
self.
.Hll have to remem!er that.....as0 to e=perence m" true self. . would
not have thou/ht to do that. And see2 thatHs how weHre at somewhat of
a dsadvanta/e. Ce donHt 0now the rules of ths L/ameL that weHre n2
and so we have to G/ure t out2 partl" !" tral and error2 partl" !"
lstenn/ to those see0ers who came !efore us ,scrutn9n/2 of course2
for wa"s that what has come down to us could !e further deceptons-2
and partl" !" dum!l" stum!ln/ ourselves onto thn/s that happen to
wor0.
8uote ;ou are fra/mented over man" realtes2 countless. ;ou nteract
wth them to some capact" wen "ou sleep2 ths should !e famlar to
"ou at some level. ;ou should !e a!le to have a free connecton to
these other parts of "ou. ;ou are jaled oE loc0ed nto ths realt" made
to !eleve ths s what "ou trul" are. :ome how we dd ths to
ourselves. Ce were trc0ed n a sense to tr" a new e=perence not
0nown/ that the e=perence would 0eep us trapped here over and
over.
$hs s one of the thn/s . wonder a!out. Cere we \reall"\ trc0ed? Or s
ths more of a reXecton of how we feel here !en/ n the poston we
are n. Chat . wonder a!out s2 f !efore we came nto ths c"clc
e=stence2 we were !en/s who 0new who we were2 who had a!ltes
far !e"ond what we could conceve now2 so how could we poss!l" !e
trc0ed? $hs level of realt" ,so to spea0- s a realm of lluson2 where
ver" lttle s what t seems and decepton runs rampant2 !ut outsde of
ths realm2 . have have to wonder f there s an" such thn/ as
decepton. Qan" people spea0 of ther e=traordnar" sprtual
e=perences where the" have memores where thn/s are 0nown to
them as soon as the" even formulate a >ueston to as0. :o2 how could
we !e trc0ed? Qa"!e we 0new \e=actl"\ what we were /ettn/ nto.
Chch2 n a wa"2 s an even more dstur!n/ thou/ht. .t s sad that
there s a thn lne !etween !raver" and stupdt"2 r/ht?
Qa"!e !efore we came here2 we were the sprtual daredevls of the
h/her realms2 and ths tme we just /ot a wee !t more than we
!ar/aned for. And ma"!e we suspected that would happen2 !ut ddnHt
care. Sust a thou/ht. 4ut perhaps !ecause we canHt see the whole
pcture2 t loo0s much more harrown/ than t s2 and perhaps ths dea
of !en/ Ltrc0edL s a reXecton of a vctm mentalt" /enerated !elef
that could n some wa"s !e a hndrance2 !ut could n some wa"s !e
advanta/eous - even f t were not entrel" trueW $hn0 of t as ma"!e
an mprovn/ m"th. ?ersonall"2 . tend towards the vew that we were
not trc0ed2 !ut thatHs just what . choose to !eleve.
8uote ;ou are put n a place where ts nearl" .Q?O::.4NE to learn what
"ou need to learn wthn a sn/le lfe to /et LoutL.
.tHs funn"2 when . read ths2 . mmedatel" thou/ht of a vdeo /ame .Hve
!een pla"n/ where . have to >ueston f the level .Hm on s actuall"
wnna!le. . thn0 ever"one who pla"s vdeo /ames 0nows that feeln/.
N0e2 LC$32 are the des/ners of ths /ame just trolln/ us???L 4ut then
"ou do t enou/h tmes and L/et n the 9oneL and a/anst all odds2
mana/e to - just !" a har - complete the level or msson. ChewW
CasnHt so !ad. :o2 . suppose t could !e a matter of perspectve2
especall" when consdern/ that we are eternal dvne !en/s who
have eternt" to pla" around n and /et stuc0 n places l0e Earth2 for
!etter or worse.
8uote Chen "ou de2 ever"thn/ "ou have learned s scru!!ed clean.
<oes ths sound l0e a s"stem that s des/ned for "our pro/resson and
evoluton?
. suppose ths s where the vdeo /ame analo/" !ecomes a !t
straned2 !ecause at least wth a vdeo /ame "ou can /et the han/ of t
and retan what "ou learn from one attempt to the ne=t. Aowever2
there are man" people who sa" there \are\ wa"s to 0now "our past
lves. 3rom past lfe re/resson2 to even O4EHs2 and man" other wa"s. .
just read a part of a Cllam 4uhlman !oo0 where he as0ed durn/ an
O4E to !e shown hs past lfe2 and he was shown hs prevous lfe as a
Ia9 tan0 commander. :o tHs all ,ar/ua!l"- stll there2 not erased at all2
and we just have to 0now the trc0s to !e a!le to access t.
8uote 4ut here s the 0c0er n m" opnon. A secret . donHt tell man".
$hs s just a vdeo /ame. :a" that to "ourself and remem!er2 L$hs s
just a vdeo /ameL. $he populaton wll wa0e up to that real9aton soon
enou/h.
. thn0 ths could !e more or less true2 that we ,as ndvdual
ncarnatons- are l0e vrtual realt" characters n a wa" that have !een
deplo"ed nto ths world for learnn/ purposes2 and tHs onl" when we
return to wherever the hell we were deplo"ed from that we reall" see
that snHt reall" who we are2 !ut s reall" just a thm!leful of our /reater
!en/. And oh2 the pl/ht of the lttle vrtual realt" character who
doesnHt 0now t s one. .t m/ht !e/n to feel that there was some t"pe
of malcous plot to cause t to !e 0ept n the dar0 and suEer so
terr!l"2 and ma"!e t would /enerate a whole !elef s"stem !ased
around ths feeln/.
8uote And n don/ so2 the" wll real9e that the" have the power to
pla" what ever /ame the" choose collectvel". $he" were alwa"s
choosn/ whch /ame to pla" from the ver" !e/nnn/2 the" were just
manpulated n ther choosn/. $he" were choosn/ to pc0
unconscousl"2 thus were heavl" nXuenced !" outsde forces. $hs s
were the technolo/cal sn/ulart" comes n2 technolo/" wll advance to
a pont untl we real9e that we are that technolo/" and them 4AQW .
!eleve our educaton s"stem2 rel/on s"stems2 poltcal s"stems2
authortatve s"stems2 musc2 clothn/2 meda2 moves2 rado2 nvs!le
fre>uences and so forth are all !en/ used to form our mnd to ma0e
certan choces on auto plot. .t s ths that 0eeps us pla"n/ ths /ame
unconscousl". :oon enou/h people wll real9e that ths s a vdeo
/ame2 the onl" rule untl the technolo/cal sn/ulart" !en/ "ou have
to for/et "ou are pla"n/ to pla". And n don/ so2 we wll choose
conscousl" what to pla" to/ether.
. share "our dstrust of the transhumanst techno-fetshsm and see t
as a dead end. ?erhaps one that could !e recovered from once
entered2 !ut not wthout /reat eEort. And who 0nows2 t could !e
poss!le that such past e=stental tan/ents n other forms are what
has resulted n us !en/ here n the state we are n. And ma"!e those
h/her !en/s out there ,assumn/ the" are out there - or care- are
loo0n/ at down at us wondern/ f we are /on/ to fall nto ever" sn/le
ptfall poss!le alon/ our path.
8uote .Hd l0e to add one more thn/. A!out ten "ears a/o . was ta0en
from m" !od" and . had an e=perence wth the creator source. . saw
the whole shape of the realtes and dmensons2 the" loo0ed l0e dna
sprals that made up ths werd n that rotated around ts mddle a=s. .t
had ths spn to t. . was suc0ed nto a ver" tn" secton of ths. Chen .
!ro0e throu/h to ts dmenson2 the mem!rane was oran/e from the
outsde and onl" !lndn/ whte l/ht after . !ro0e throu/h. . heard a
voce telln/ me that . was not alone and that t loved me. . as0ed who
t was and t sad t was LKodL. . couldnHt see an"thn/ onl" hear t and
0new ts presence was there. An ama9n/ presence2 that was
undena!le. $he l/ht was so !lndn/ and warm. . told t dd not
!eleve n Kod and t told me t could Ltouch meL2 t could prove t.
Cthout tme to process what t sad somethn/ went throu/h m" soul
that just 0new ths was the creator. $he most pure love . have ever felt.
.t honestl" hurt to feel t2 . felt t onl" for a second and t was /one. .f .
felt t for an" lon/er t would have destro"ed me2 t was so powerful. .
have !een n love wth /rls2 . love m" parents2 m" faml". 4ut . real9ed
at that moment . have never felt true love !efore. .t chan/ed m" lfe
forever and was the 0c0 start . needed for m" remem!ern/. . came
!ac0 to m" !od" cr"n/ for an hour repeatn/ L.Hm sorr" . ddnHt !eleve
"ouL.
$han0s for that2 thatHs fascnatn/ stor". And . do 0now the feeln/. .
have felt what . thou/ht to !e the presence of LKodL !efore2 thou/h t
was on ma/c mushrooms2 so tHs eas" for people to dmnsh m"
e=perence as some sort of hallucnaton. 4ut n that e=perence . felt
the most ncred!le !oundless love . have ever felt2 poss!l" to ths da".
Uncondtonal love2 despte all of the wa"s . felt . fell short of deservn/
such love2 whch /oes !e"ond what even another human !en/ could
show. .t does leave an mpresson on "ou.
8uote $he reason . share ths s !ecause . !ro0e throu/h an oran/e
mem!rane and came nto the !lndn/ l/ht. . dd not follow and /o nto
the l/ht. $hose are two dEerent thn/s all to/etherW $hat s mportant
to real9e.
One thou/ht . have had s that there s the natural rencarnatonal
c"cle that s part of a natural s"stem of soul mprovement2 and then
there could !e an artGcal overla" that has sort of tampered wth that
c"cle and made t a....shall we sa"2 a \vcous\ c"cle. .t could !e some
form of transdmensonal technolo/" that2 once actvated2 s ver"
dPcult to dsa!le. And perhaps ths s actuall" allowed !" the source
creator !ecause2 whle t seems l0e unspea0a!l" foul pla"2 could
poss!l" end up e=ponentall" ncreasn/ our souls evoluton !e"ond
what s usual. 4ut what . do wonder s whether or not ths state of
aEars has an e=praton date. . 0now2 we canHt reall" count on that2 !ut
supposn/2 as some sources have sad ,the Naw of One !oo0s come to
mnd- that there s a predetermned end to the c"cle2 re/ardless of how
the rencarnatonal c"cle has !een hac0ed or hjac0ed. Or perhaps that
s just more Lcosmc dsnformatonL. . suppose onl" tme wll tell on
that account.
loo0 !e"ond2
An nterestn/ >ueston.
.n )O') , R4 and mother of a one-"ear-old dau/hter- . was n a coma
for ( wee0s. . saw HAellH2 as an o!server2 e=perenced a peaceful sta" n
a cave2 wth a vew of a sunn" s0" from the entrance and a sta" wth
HN/ht 4en/sH2 wth whom . communcated telepathcall".
.n those last two places . felt free and peaceful2 nothn/ more or less.
. Hwas told to /o !ac0H2 !ecause Lthere was stll a lot to do for me n ths
earthl" e=stenceL.
Cas ths a I<E? :pecalsts told me t were ma/es of m" !ran2 as .
had !een suEern/ from an nXammaton of m" !ran caused !" vrus.
. was confused2 t Hchan/ed m" lfeH and m" H:earchH !e/an....
. can stll see the whole HpctureH !efore me and t has sta"ed wth me
m" whole lfe wthout chan/n/. ,.Hm 66 now-.
$here was no feeln/ of !lss2 just slence and peace of mnd2 as n
medtaton. And "es2 . would have l0ed to sta" there and felt ver"
ashamed to admt that when . was L!ac0L2 !ecause . had a happ"
marra/e and a lovel" lttle dau/hter....
. can /o !ac0 to that HcaveH whenever . want2 often !" usn/ <runvalo
Qelch9ede0Hs LNvn/ n the AeartL method.
.Hm postn/ here!" a >uote from a ste a!out near-death e=perences.
8uote $here are several theores to e=plan how comn/ close to death
can /ve rse to near-death e=perences. Nac0 of o="/en s often
mplcated2 althou/h man" near-death e=perences occur when people
are not deprved of o="/en2 as n falls from mountans2 durn/ sucde
attempts !" jumpn/ from he/hts2 or after accdents. .n such
stuatons2 however2 the producton and actons of varous hormones
and neurotransmtters ma" !e aEected. $here are theores !ased on
stmulaton of receptors n nerve cell mem!ranes called IQ<A
receptors2 on the eEects of the neurotransmtter serotonn2 and on the
level of endorphns ,the !ranHs own morphne-l0e chemcals-.
Endorphns are 0nown to produce postve emotons and reducton of
pan2 and ma" !e respons!le for the !lssful feeln/s n the mdst of
pan and fear. <srupton of the !ranHs neurotransmtters can produce
random or e=cessve Grn/ of neurons and ths2 dependn/ on where t
occurs2 ma" produce the other e=perences. 3or e=ample2 electrcal
stmulaton of the temporal lo!e of the cere!ral hemspheres can
produce lfe revews and sensatons of Xoatn/ or X"n/2 whle random
Grn/ n the parts of the vsual corte= ,whch also occurs wth dru/s
such as N:<- causes the percepton of l/hts2 tunnels2 and sprals.
5ead more: http://www.answers.com/topc/near-de...*=99R$Ndhj6u!
$hs was just Q; e=perence and t doesnHt prove or e=plan an"thn/
$he evdence wll show2 movn/ nto the Chte N/ht s ta0n/ oneHs
sprt nto the h/h technolo/" apparatus nstalled on the Qoon. $here
are man" researchers who have ndependentl" dscovered a Gve mle
h/h antenna on the Qoon. Sohn Near and 5chard Aoa/land are two
that come to mnd who have mentoned IA:A photo/raphs of ths
antenna.
$here are also several whstle !lowers who have come forward who
tal0 a!out the telepathc thou/ht mplant apparatus the !lac0-ops wn/
of the secret /lo!al /overnment have !een usn/ a/anst the Qasses
snce the end of the :econd Corld Car. $hs s technolo/" from
ant>ut" whch has !een used a/anst the Qasses snce the <awn of
Qan2 controlled !" an h"perdmensonal speces. $he" are ver" clever
at what the" do2 and ths technolo/" s now n the hands of the Klo!al
Elte. $he evdence s clear on what .Hm reportn/. All one need do s
the research.
3ollown/ the Kolden N/ht of Nove2 on the other hand2 ta0es one
drectl" nto the sn/ulart" that s our :un. $hs s the doorwa" nto
another dmenson.
$heoretcal scence tells us there are the mathematc poss!ltes for at
least ten other dmensons. Ancent rel/ous theolo/" tells us there are
)R Aeavens. $hs smlart" s no concdence. Understandn/ !oth are
pontn/ at the same concept s onl" a matter of understandn/ that
semantcs s nvolved n namn/ these smlar concepts. .t s
ncreasn/l" understood that a sn/ulart" ,!lac0 hole- s the openn/ to
a wormhole.
Kon/ nto the Chte N/ht s a drect trp nto the :oul $rap that s
harvestn/ and consumn/ :oul-Essence. $hs has !een an operaton
on the Qoon snce the <awn of Qan.
Kon/ nto the Kolden N/ht s a drect trp out of ths ?rson Unverse.
5esearch the evdence and draw "our own conclusons.
5esearch 5esources:
<r. 4arre $rower -
http://www."outu!e.com/watch?v&id4-t...'E84#6%nde=&)
,?a" attenton at a!out )) mnutes nto the vdeo-
#onsprac" $heor" wth Sesse 1entura -
http://www."outu!e.com/watch?v&6Qltt...8(4D<D4O'E84#6
Sohn Near <sclosure -
http://www."outu!e.com/watch?v&n$53hrAr8us
$he HKra"sH of whch Sohn Near spea0s are one-n-the-same as the
Archons whch were spo0en of !" the Ia9arene Essenes ,;eshua !en
Soseph-
$hs ?artcular 5ealt" s a feedn/ operaton2 :lc0Clle.
$hs :oul Aarvestn/ Antenna has !een on the Qoon snce Qan Grst
arrved2 here on ths planet. Understandn/ the process of !rth-death-
re!rth wth lttle or no recollecton of "our former lfetme s all part of
the harvestn/ operaton. $he essence of "our :oul-:tuE s consumed
and onl" a seed of "our former self s replanted nto another !od" to
/row another crop. $hs process leads to the aoo-!tn/ loops of
endless lfetmes.
1er" few who have had the where-wth-all to ma0e t out of ths loop
have ever returned to tell the stor" of how one escapes. $he few who
were a!le and dd return2 have had ther stores manpulated nto les.
$he astral plane ,or2 the >uantum Geld of nGnte potental- s patrolled
!" Archons who can appear n an" form the" desre. $here s no
o!jectve evdence to conclude an" astral e=perence was not
manpulated. 3ath-!ased testmones are not evdence.
$hs harvestn/ operaton s the onl" e=planaton that ma0es an"
sense2 f one follows all the a!stract trals of evdence.
$he Qass of Aumant" has !een led to snce the <awn of Qan. $he
evdence ANN ponts to ths concluson. Answer Lwh"L to the reason
Aumant" has !een contnuousl" led to.
As to what les !e"ond $hs ?artcular 5ealt"2 all . can sa" s:
somethn/ else.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?5OD56-Kon/-nto-
l/ht-after-death...-or-not/pa/e(
Kettn/ trapped after death can happen and ths s how "ou /et out2 ts
called holo/raphc 0netcs.
http://www.holo/raphc0netcs.net/default.html
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...aphch0netcs
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...aphch0netcs
. have just recentl" had a A[ sesson and found out that m" sprt has
!een enslaved for a ver" lon/ tme2 what was happenn/ was that .
was /ettn/ delvered !ac0 to m" captors after death2 ,. donHt 0now f
there was a whte l/ht or not !ut that does not matter2 the fact that .
was delvered !ac0 to them s enou/h at least for me to 0now that ths
actuall" #AI happen- at tmes . was rtualstcall" murdered as a chld
!" humans that had !een ta0en over !" these alens. when m" captors
/ot removed m" sprt sad L. feel l0e a puppet wthout the strn/sL
$hs was then healed and . am no lon/er enslaved !" these alens that
are the :#UQ of the unverse.
. 0now for a fact that . am not the onl" one on ths planet that has had
ths happen to them. .ts tme for us as a race to /et healed so we are
no lon/er under an" 0nd of nXuence !" an"one.