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RicemanFTW Tim Urban - WaitButWhy.com
Today 11:25am
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Other civilizations received our first tv signals and were intrigued...they they
caught a stream of "Twilight"...and decided we needed to be avoided at ALL costs.
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Gnurrfrtr Tim Urban - WaitButWhy.com
Today 11:28am
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I don't know but I bet they already have flying cars...
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Burningman1228 Tim Urban - WaitButWhy.com
Today 11:31am
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"All together, that comes out to the typically quoted range of between 1022 and
1024 total stars in the universe"
Um, wat?
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JonArmani Burningman1228
Today 11:32am
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Yeah I'm trying to figure out which units he left off.
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Haemaker Burningman1228
Today 11:43am
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I think it's 10^22 and 10^24. Superscript fail.
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JBBW2 Tim Urban - WaitButWhy.com
Today 11:33am
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Why the title of this article a misquotation?
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JBBW2 Tim Urban - WaitButWhy.com
Today 11:35am
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Also, I thought everyone already agreed that the aliens that were visiting us in the
50's through the 90's left when we started broadcasting reality television. They no
longer needed to probe us to get us to act stupid. We were sending television
signals out with all the dumb stuff we do.
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Today 11:37am
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"if 1% of intelligent life survives long enough to become a potentially galaxy-
colonizing Type III Civilization, our calculations above suggest that there should
be at least 1,000 Type III Civilizations in our galaxy alone"
By definition, this is not possible. If a Type III Civilization harnesses the bulk of
galactic energy, no other Type III Civilization could share that galaxy.
Which must mean that your conservative estimates about either the prevalence of
life, or the amount of time it takes for civilization to advance are high by at least
three orders of magnitude. I would guess it's that 1% estimate in the quoted
sentence. Add a decimal point and several zeros to the beginning of it and it would
seem more plausible. Life (and planets, and stars for that matter) are pretty
fragile. We know of no species that has survived on the order of billions of years,
much less intelligent ones. And we know of millions of species.
(Oh, you missed an explaination as well.... If you're a type II or type III
civilization, and you're consuming all that energy, probably very little is escaping
for us to detect. The civilization would be stealth practically by definition.)
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NorwoodIsMyHero Tim Urban - WaitButWhy.com
Today 11:42am
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I boil it down to 3 possibilities for me:
1. Nothing is out there. Another possible reason for that is that an effectively all
powerful entity (e.g. God and/or gods) specifically decided to ensure that this
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scenario happened.
2. Something is out there, but like us they haven't figured out interstellar travel.
That seems like it would be an exceedingly fascinating possibility. If we found
some sort of alien civilization that was within a few hundred or even thousands of
years of us on a development track and we started observing each other. If they
were close enough (e.g. only a few light years away), maybe we could even make
some sort of rudimentary first contact. Obviously that makes it an infinitesimally
small chance, but to me that would be an interesting premise for a movie. We find
an alien civilizations that we can't effectively reach but that we can, after a
fashion, communicate with?
3. Something is out there that can travel interstellar distances. In which case they
are so far beyond us in terms of technology and evolution that they can do pretty
much whatever they want, altruistic or otherwise.
Any other possibility, like the notion that we are part of some computer
simulation, is sort of pointless to spend much time contemplating.
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nhr215 Tim Urban - WaitButWhy.com
Today 11:45am
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Wow, a 2,000 word speculation about speculation on speculative ideas with
speculative principles and speculative math... Intellectual masturbation much?
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kckempf nhr215
Today 11:49am
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It's harder to understand the motivation for your response than to understand the
motivation for the post.
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nhr215 kckempf
Today 11:53am
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My points is the post has no point and not much relevance. Its just a musing on
some other peoples' musings with some estimated stats to make it look like its
somewhat based in reality when its actually just one probability based on another
probability etc. to the 6th degree making all conclusions ludicrously
meaningless... So why post it here? This isn't Medium, this is a gadget blog...
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kckempf nhr215
Today 12:06pm
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I'm not sure why this is on Gizmodo rather than on io9, but the actual data
referenced in this post is a lot greater than you get on the average post on, say, a
new camera. Dismissing data because it's based on a probability is foolish, given
that the fundamental state of the universe is stochastic. Any deterministic view of
the universe is at best an approximation and at worst a deception.
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TipsyT-Rex Tim Urban - WaitButWhy.com
Today 11:49am
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I haven't finished this yet but I just wanted to let you know this article is giving me
all kinds of brain boners. I've always been fascinated by the Fermi paradox but
I've never really read into it. I hope you get a raise.
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LookSquirrels Tim Urban - WaitButWhy.com
Today 11:50am
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at the risk of making myself sound like an idiot, if our night sky consists of that
tiny red dot, how do we get these far away pictures of the Milky Way? Certainly
Hubble hasn't traveled that far from our planet.
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Automatik Fantastik Tim Urban - WaitButWhy.com
Today 11:50am
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I like the Fermi Paradox discussions because it considers ALL possibilities for
debating, instead of discarding them. They even consider the speed of the of the
life witch could be way faster or way slower than us. We here on earth have life
forms that takes forever to grow and some that live and die fast and some that
think faster than us (such as a simple fly). Hell, today we know that there is no
such thing as "life/not life" - there is a whole gamma of chemical reactions that
goes from simple to complex. Is virus a life?
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Haemaker Tim Urban - WaitButWhy.com
Today 11:51am
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I think there is an element missing. When ever I read these pieces there seems to
be a civilization bias. There are many parts of the world where, even though there
are plenty of humans, the drive to become technically advanced beyond basic
needs never materialized. North America, Africa, eastern South America,
Australia, etc. These areas had fully evolved humans, but didn't form cities,
agriculture, currency, etc.
Can anyone point me to a source who has explored that aspect?
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