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J ust aw ord of thanks and my
compliments on the great article on 60' s
psychedelic punk . I' ve been into this kind
of music for aw hile, and I' mglad someone
finally took notice of it . Hopefully, your
article w ill prompt other "hardcores" to
take alisten to some of this great music.
Maybe then the "scene" w on' t be as
redundant and generic . I' mstarting a
psych/punk band . Our name is P ECKING
ORDER . Also, I put out az ine called
Raveup, and amplanning to expand
coverage to include stuff about those 60' s
bands like 13TH FLOOR ELEV ATORS,
REMAINS, BLUES MAGOOS, etc . Copies
are $1 thru the mail, or for trade w ith
your fanz ine or record/tape.
Anthony Illarde/ 42 2 9 W Roscoe/ Chicago
IL 60641.
Dear MRR,
I w ould like to comment on tw o parts
of MRR #11 . I thought the first few letters
w ere great! It w as refreshing to see some
positive, optimistic ideas for achange.
The self- destructive "Smash the state" and
"xxx scene sucks" letters w ere leading to
adead end, either through inability to
acheive fantastic goals, or by simple
division . High ideals are fine, but
tempering themw ith asense of reality
provides a"consciousness" that can
actually accomplish something and make the
w orld abetter place.
Secondly, the "1984" articles w ere
good . I re- read the book recently, as w ell
as 1984 Revisited, acollection of essays
relating to Orw ell' s book and totalitarianism
in general . The book comes to the
conclusion that Oceania- type
totalitarianismis impossible, for various
reasons ( quickly : there are some facets of
"nprmal" society that are mandatory for
the maintenance of pow er
. Fear is not
enough), but that aheavy authoritarian
society is possible, and even likely . This
w orld w ould be an "85", w ith Oceania
being "100" and Naz i Germany about a
"7 0" . The sad thing about this being the
fated year is that if by December 31 100$
of the book hasn' t happened, people w ill
give asigh of relief and forget all about
protecting their freedom. I w on' t find any
satisfaction in know ing Orw ell w as off by 5
years.
I' ve noticed something interesting in
my discussions w ith the "good Germans"
running around today
. If I tell themI' m
concerned about government
record- keeping, they call me paranoid. But
if I say I' mgoing to find out about my
dossier w ith the Freedomof Information
Act, they w arn "Don' t do that! You' ll get
on a list! " . If the government doesn' t have
any interesting files on me, w hy should I
be w orried about trying to find that out?
Lastly, I have seen the DEAD
KENNEDYS tw ice and neither time did I
interpret w hat Biafrasaid as acommand. I
just figured he w as spouting off his ideas
for abetter scheme of things
. P eople w ho
believe things just because the best- know n
vocalist told themto aren' t punks . After
all, it could have been David Lee Roth or
Steve P erry, instead of Biafra
. If you
don' t think for yourself, you' re no
different than any other 9- 5, do your job,
don' t complain citiz en
. It doesn' t matter
how radical your view s are, if they aren' t
your view s . A black sheep is still asheep.
K . Laughlin
Dear MRR and J ack Rabid,
In reference to J ack' s column in MRR
#10and scene economics, it w as spot on.
As J ack said, maybe the only w ay for me
to get the message across is to blow the
article up to poster siz e and display it at
gigs
. I think I agreed w ith the article so
much because I amapromoter, or could it
be because I have my eyes w ide open and
see w hat goes on before, during, and
after ashow
. In the city w here I live, I
take my share of abuse for the job I do as
apromoter. Some of it is justified, and
some unjust, but people are going to have
to learn w hat the hell show s are about and
w hat goes into them
. I mean, just because
aguy does show s doesn' t mean he' s got
money up the ass . I know for afact that
7 5$ of the people w ho go to show s have
more money than me, or at least astable
income or means of support
. The grass is
alw ays greener on the other side
. P eople
are alw ays quick to criticiz e
. But to make
asuggestion, then don' t hold your breath.
The usual lines are: I don' t like that
band
; I don' t have any money ; The tickets
cost too much
; I' ve already made plans.
so don' t try
to tell me your part of the
scene if you use statements like these at
all the show s
. P eople should support the
people w ho support them
. Don' t show up
at ashow w ith 12 beers in
your coat and
go "Come on man, I don' t have any
money
. " Or, how about the people w ho
pass out all over the place and throw up.
Can you get any more hardcore? And
they' re alw ays the same people w ho start
trouble, fights, damage, etc
. That is not
being part of the scene, to me
. But w hat
do I know . I' mjust the guy w ho takes all
the risks and criticism. So w hen people
ask w hy ashow got cancelled, can anyone
give theman answ er? In this tow n, if you
can do ashow at the same place tw ice,
you are more than lucky.
On the average, the scene is about
300
strong ( w ith exceptions like the DK' S,
w hen 1000show up- - w here is the local
support w hen you need it?)
. I know I' m
trying 100% to do the best, fairest job for
everyone, and theere are alot of really
good people here w ho do more than their
share and deserve all the credit in the
w orld because they are the scene
. You
only get as much out of something as you
put into it
. J ust imagine how much you
could be getting out of your scene.
I hope I don' t seemtoo heavy- handed, but
I think alocal scene is the most important
thing acity has
. The tighter knit it is,
the better run it is
. The better run it is,
the more fun for everyone it is
. And it
just goes on and on and on.
All criticismand hate mail to: Mike Zabo/
52 5 Sherbrooke East #15/ Montreal, Q ue/
CANADA H2 L- 1K2
Dear MRR,
There is one thing bugging me
. I
read the article in #10about "holy punks"
or w hatever you call them
. What' s
bothering me is to think that all those
J erry Falw ell' s, w ho can brainw ash the
"normal"

person,

can

brainw ash
"independent,

free- thinking"

people.
What' s the w orld coming to?
Remember how in Greek mythology,
they made up stories on the origin of life?
Their Gods w ere used for excuses
. . . you
know , like the changes of the seasons is
because blah, blah, blah
. Well, people
now adays have their God for the exact
same reason, for an excuse
. If someone
dies, they say "God w anted him
. . . it w as
his time to go"
. There isn' t any proof of a
God, so w hy believe in an illusion? For a
fucking excuse? Don' t be lame.
MarcellaBevien/ 3443 Duchess Ct/ San
J ose Ca95132
Dear MRR,
Hi! It' s Mish again . This is acomment
fromthe girls side of things
. At least from
one very
vocal female. Don' t start cringing
and shutting me out guys, ( oh, no!
Another one of those man- devouring
feminists
. Q uick! Where' s acloset? I better
hide)
. OK, this isn' t going to be painful,
or avicious attack or anything. That sort
of attitude solves nothing, right? And in
order to w ork things out on an equaasis
w e have to treat each other as persons,
and it takes some give and take on both
sides . I know there are alot of smart,
cool, w itty ( need I go on?) girls out there
w ho w ould love to be involved in bands
and the scene but have been snubbed or
laughed at because they w eren' t as
proficient as some of you . But w e' ve all
learned somew here, and w hereas it' s
aw kw ard at first, w ith alittle help from
our friends things get easier, like playing
instruments
. . .
See, there' s just afew areas w here some
of us run into conflicts and it gets
uncomfortable, so maybe if you understand
how w e feel as people, you might think
about some of the things that you do. Like
these labels w e get tossed at us : Bitch,
Cunt. I' maperson, not aproduct to be
packaged

and

labeled .

Labels

that
humiliate, degrade, and classify, and
there' s alot more than bitch and cunt
( fag, dyke, punk, slut, nigger, homo,
spic, dick - one for you guys, gearhead,
commie) . But the one that really kills me
is "dumb cunt" . Especially w hen it comes
fromsomeone w hose every other w ord is
"fuck" . "Fuck' s this?" "Fuck' s that?" and
my favorite "Fucking fuck you fucking
fuckers"
. .
. get the picture? These are
usually received fromsomeone w ho never
lets you finish asentence. . . and probably
couldn' t finish one themselves, given the
chance. I have aname
; I w ish people
w ould use it . They' re alw ays trying to
change my name;the ones listed above are
the most popular choices . And for
appearances' sake - girls in short hair and
jeans are just as ok people as girls in
dresses, and just as female, and if agirl' s
gonnaw ear askirt so short that there' s
nothing left to the imagination ( be it her
choice- she know s w hy she does this) w hy
not fling off everything in great ecstacy
and dance about - I' msure nobody w ould
be surprised ; they' ve already seen it all.
Oh, one last grievance, ok? I ( speaking in
the collective) amagirl w ho chooses to
have no boyfriend, spouse, mate,
w hatever . If I choose to have numerous
encounters ( of the sex kind) w ith others,
that is my right and it doesn' t deserve
those terms of endearment you slag me
w ith ; slut, scum, w hore, hosebag, slime,
buttfuckee, hussie, sleaz e, loose, easy,
and the ever- popular douchbag
. Come on,
I know alot of you boys out there w ho
are as social as some of us single
girls- - your habits w ell match ours but you
seemto think it' s acceptable for you . I
don' t hear you getting defaced in this
manner
. ( But agood one girls is
:CLOWN
P RINCE OF SMARM- - not too derogatory,
but it gets the point across) to those ever
present 8- armed romeos w ho are alw ays
slurping at your
face and clutching at
your bodies w hile you frantically try
prying themoff w hile trying not to gag at
their sticky, cliche redundant remarks,
like "Hey sexee", "Oohh babee, I think I
love you", or "I find you intellectually
stimulating, slurp . . . "
. Gag. . . you don' t
really expect us to buy that, do you???
It just seems like apretty sad
"normal" ( dare I say?) state for such
liberal '
anarchistic' individuals like
ourselves
. I mean, if w e aren' t happy w ith
the state of the things w e' re raised
around, w e have to change ourselves so
w e don' t turn out the same w ay
. Sound
familiar? But somew here along the w ay WE
gottachange things- - w ith aguy, no, make
that amaniac- - like Reagan at the controls
, w ho likes to make his ' pow er' know n by
throw ing out remarks like "I think w e' re
the generation that w ill see Armageddon
come about"
. What aploy!! "See w hat I
could do? I' mso pow erful, I could do this.
Don' t you forget it! ! " Armageddon outta
here!!
Mish Bondage/ P . O. Box 332 / P ortland OR
97 2 07 .
P ULL UP YOUR P ANTS
Dear MRR,
OK Tim, answ er this . If the Rev.
J esse J ackson w as voted P resident, and he
w as not living up to his campaign promises
( w hatever they might be), and in general
w as "screw ing up", w ould the "anarchist"
punx and all others w rite anti- J ackson
songs and w ear anti- J ackson slogans and
shirts? Or, w ould they be afraid to do so
because they might be labeled as "racists".
I w ant areal answ er, not some bullshit
backtalk . ~ if you ignore this letter
( Tim, that is), are you afraid of the fact
you may be caught w ith your pants dow n?
That' s it
. P aul poplaw ski, Yonkers NY.
Dear P aul,
My response is simple
. If criticiz ing
J esse J ackson for possibly selling out to
the ruling class, I w ould use alittle extra
space, time and sensitivity to make it
understood that that w as the basis of my
attack, and not tie color of his skin . I do
the same w hen criticiz ing someone w ho may
be aZionist, making sure that people
understand that it' s not an anti- Semitic
attack
. Because of historical conditions,
there is anecessity to be quite clear as to
any criticisms
. I don' t think that little
special effort is asking too much.
So that' s my real answ er . Now , pull
up your pants . Tim.
Dear MRR,
On New Years Eve , afriend of mine,
Ed Lathrop, committed suicide. You might
not have know n himby name, but you
probably recogniz ed his face at punk
show s over the past 4 years in the Bay
Area. He w as abeanpole of aguy, in his
30' s, w ho instead of opting for god,
family, and the w hite bread life, hung
around w ith rebellious, row dy, and
nihilistic youth . Unfortunately, the nihilism
got the best of him, and he slit his
w rists.
It is still avery shocking thing to me
w hen a15 year old goes out on crank or
w hatever . Whether or not it' s accidental, it
really says something about the quality of
life in Amerikkka. . . the ' no future'
syndrome applies here as w ell as in the
U. K. I think Ed w as avictimof the same
thing.
Some of the people I w ork w ith knew
Ed from15 years ago ( he w as also a
co- w orker of mine) . None of themever
suspected he' d do himself in . . . but the
kids knew different . His cynicismw as
fathoms deep . The Fuckettes w ill miss him,
Sebastian w ill miss him, I' ll miss him.
Mike Manifesto, Oakland CA
Dear MRR,
This letter is for all those radical
revolutionaries out there
. I' ve got one
question to ask you :"What have you
accomplished?!?"
There

must

be

10, 000
antiReagan /establishment /system/blah,
blah, blah, songs . But w ho are they
played/sung to? More revolutionaries . That
accomplishes nothing
. Why don' t you play
themto government authorities? How about
J ohn Q P ublic? Then maybe people w ould
realiz e w hat' s going on . There are very
few bands ( maybe 2 or 3) that have the
guts enough to do this . Although I don' t
agree w ith their view s, I respect their
approach to alerting people to their ideas.
But all these hardcore bands w ith their
"Fuck Reagan" songs are just abunch of
gutless cow ards w ith cute slogans
. I know
you' re thinking "Fuck you, you little
apathetic asshole! ", but it' s an entire
w aste of time if you screamideas to people
w ith the same ideas
. You can' t even unite
amongst yourselves ( ie. , anarchismvs
communism) in the HC scene, so how do
you expect to unite astate? acountry? a
w orld? P ainting "You can' t hug ababy
w ith nuclear arms" on the back of your
jacket might get aresponse like "Say,
that' s clever", but it w on' t make people
say "Yeah, w e' ve got to do something
about nuclear arms
. I' mgonnaorganiz e
today!" All of your political songs,
magaz ines, leaflets, new spapers, slogans,
marches, etc, etc, have not done asingle
thing ( of any importance, anyw ay) to help
"change the w orld" . The ' 60' s accomplished
0also. There are still w ars, and sad to
say, alw ays w ill be
. That' s the w ay man
is
. For instance, right now , as you' re
reading this, you probably have very
hostile feelings tow ards me, at least alittle
anger
. That just show s everybody feels
hostile tow ards their fellow man, no matter
how much "for peace" they are
. Be honest
w ith yourselves, there is no w ay you are
going to change the w orld to autopian
dreamland . Not in your lifetime or
anybody
else' s . Its been tried thousands of times
throughout history and the w orld is still a
rotten place. So, w hat have you
accomplished? Did you put out aradical
new spaper? Did you demonstrate? Did you
w rite asong? Has it changed anything?
No, it hasn' t . Be honest w ith yourselves;
it' s aw onderful dream, but an impossible
one. I w as like you for 3 years until I
realiz ed that it w as all in vain
. I also
realiz ed that I bothered and w orried myself
over things aperson of my age, and
probably yours too, can do nothing about.
Three w asted years of my only life
. I get
alot more enjoyment out of life now that
I' m"apolitical", as you call it . I have just
as much freedom, no, I have more freedom
to do w hat I w ant now
. I done have to
w orry
about
being rejected frommy radical
clique. Yeah, I said clique. I' msure you
belong to one too. You' re little group of
revolutionary friends that refuse to accept
anyone w ithout their view s . Anyw ay, I
hope this letter makes at least one person
think . Especially anyone like 12 to 15
years old . These are your most free
years . Use themw hile they last
. ~onR t just
listen blindly to abig- name band
or
someone you think is cool . Don' t make the
same mistake I did
. P lease think for
yourself . Enough sa~tl
: Send any
comments, bad or good to: Chopper Steve/
104 Greenbriar rt/ E P eoria IL 61611
Dear Steve,
P oor baby! I' mso sorry to hear you
spent 3 w hole years of your life dw elling
on such serious matters
. What abummer
that must have been
. Now you can rest
easy,

absolve

yourself

of

any
responsibility, and become a"good
American "
, cynical to the core, "looking
out for #1", escaping into the "easy life"
of not caring exactly how it is that young
you can have that luxury.
Don' t you think there' s some
connection betw een your ability to "go
back to the w omb" of apolitical American
Dreamland, and the inability of
90% of the
rest of the w orld' s kids your age to do
that? Fuck yes, you piss me off
. But
there' s no contradiction betw een show ing
emotions ( being human) and being
"political"
. For all your "years" of political
"aw areness", you apparently didn' t learn
that much about w hy things w ork like they
do, because if you did, you w ouldn
' t be
sitting around bragging about now being
part of the sucky problem.
Maybe I' mbeing too hard on you, as
you are still pretty young, but your
contempt for people w ho give ashit is
pretty pathetic . To me, w riting asong, or
striking up aconversation ( w hether to
learn, discuss, or get re- enforcement) is a
step in the right direction . It' s astep
aw ay fromisolation . Sure that w on' t
change things by itself, but it all adds
up . All those marches, "radical
new spapers", etc, combined to end the w ar
in V ietnam, w hich is more of an
accomplishment than you' ve ever done.
Ultimately, it' s the conscience of acountry
that forces change, and I can' t help but
w onder that if or w hen that day comes,
w hich side of the fence your cynical self
w ill be on
. As far as I' mconcerned, the
real impediment to change is cynicismand
apathy, and there you are bragging about
joining those forces w ho really oppose
change, and ultimately support the status
quo ( not only support it, but feed off
it- - that w onderful systemthat subjects so
many to misery so you can skateboard in
"peace" . ) P roud of yourself?
Tim
P . S. At times you sound like some of those
"people" in Invasion of the Bodysnatchers
w ho, after being taken over by the pods,
announce how happy and freer they feel
now that they don' t have to struggle w ith
the responsibilities and hardships of being
human . "J oin us, you w on' t feel athing
. "
Also Steve, your mere existence in the
scene is living proof that the politically
aw are bands aren' t just "preaching to the
converted . "
Dear MRR,
I' mw riting to express my feelings on
all this support people giving to the
V ancouver 5
. First, I like the ideaof
punks and anarchists helping others that
are going to jail on phony charges, or
organiz ing to fight police brutality and
other unjust acts of prejudice by cops
because ' punks are different'
. But should
w e support people that use violence to get
w hat they w ant? No w ay! All the police
and the government need are afew
incidents like bombings, etc, to fuck up
our scenes . If they think all punks
support this, then soon w e' ll
Tose our
clubs and have to put up w ith constant
harassment because of w hat afew people
did . What if someone w ho w as passing by
got killed? By using violence w e' re just
defeating our purpose
. They have guns
and "the law " on their side. What do w e
have? Nothing.
What happened to M
. D. C. in Canada
w as fucked up
. This is w hat w e should
fight
. But if M. D. C. bombed abuilding,
they should go to jail
. P unks should stick
up for each other, but w hen they use
violence, all that can happen is more
violence fromthe police and more prejudice
and more hassles fromjock vigilantes w ho
w ant to make the w orld a"better place to
live in" by punk- bashing
. The only w ay
w e can end police violence and other
atrocities like the MX missile, the draft,
etc, is to peacefully demonstrate and get
law yers to fight themw ith
. But violence
cannot be tolerated by us or the system.
Leave violence to the processionals, the
cops, the jocks, and the other idiots w ho
can' t think for themselves.
If the Five didn' t do it, then by all
means rally in support and bust ' emout.
But if they did, let themgo to prison.
Kenji Snow / P . O
. Box 2 15/ Crescent City
CA 95531.
Dear Kenji,
It' s apretty tricky issue you' ve
raised
. The Ghandian non- violent approach
sure seems to be the preferable w ay to go.
But is it alw ays possible? Can the peasants
in El Salvador
practice non- violence in the
face of "death squads"? No w ay
. There are
times w hen one' s only possibility of
survival and self- respect are to strike
back
. Is self- defense "violence?" Then one
has to consider w hether attacking property
( in the Five' s case, aporno shop, missile
component
factory, and pow er station) is
violence. Is it violence w hen it doesn' t
physically hurt other people? As T
. S. O. L.
( and many others) said, "property is
theft"
. Is it "violence" to attack the
"property" of the state, etc, that robs you
blind, that brutaliz es and dehumaniz es you
every day
and every w ay? I don' t have
the answ ers, but I w ouldn' t be so fast and
sure to condemn those w ho see it that
w ay,
especially
out of fear that it might
result in the closing of our clubs.
Somehow , that doesn' t seemlike the
biggest thing to be w orried about.
Tim
"UNSCENE" DANGERS
Dear Max R&R,
J ust w riting in to attempt to
communicate something that' ll probably
have me hated, but I' mjust trying to
present an alternative point of veiw , hope
you' ll listen.
Even though the view points in Max
R&R are very diverse, one thing seems to
be consistent among those w ho put any
thought into w hat they w rite; asserting
yourself honestly, i . e. being yourself
outside of any mass conformity . What
brings up this question, w hy "scene"
reports? It seems the entire "scene"
mentality ( i . e. D. C. is better that L. A. or
vice- versa) is the largest breeding ground
for blind ignorance ( ignoring bands
outside of your particular "scene") and
sheepish "follow the leader- ism. " Besides,
I think it' s amisnomer to call the
information you present "scene reports" as
most of themdon' t have a"scene"
mentality ; though sometimes you have had
some "our scene is better than you scene"
reports, thankfully that sort of mentality
is usually avoided.
Don' t get me w rong, I enjoy being
aw are of w hat' s happening in other places,
it' s just that I think the entire ideaof a
"scene" is counterproductive, so often
people use it to praise some w orthless local
band at the cost of asuperior band from
elsew here. Also scenes serve as mental
ghettos ; for many nothing exists outside of
it . Anyw ay, hope this makes sense to you,
and it' s just my opinion on the subject, I' d
like to hear fromanyone w ho disagrees or
agrees on this topic.
Now , if you' ll allow me to ( please,
please) I' d like to mention that I
occasionally put together az ine. Issue #2
( the most recent) has interview s w ith
CRASS, FLUX OF P INK INDIANS,
RUDIMENTARY P EN!, and the SEARS, plus
view s and reveiw s . Cost $1 includes
postage.
Also, I' mputting together avarious
artists compilation cassette. It' ll be a
breakeven ( hopefully) affair, aC- 90plus
info z ine for $2 . 00. So, any bands/artists
( i
. e
. alternative poets along the lines of
Annie Anxiety, Andy T. , etc . ) interested
in appearing on this project are asked to
please send acassette of 3 songs/pieces
( sound quality is really not that important,
as long as it' s listenable. ) P lus, lyrics,
pics, artw ork, band line- up and any other
pertinent infor for the info- z ine. any
non- thinking sexist racist homophobic
"humor" bands ( sorry, it isn' t funny, it' s
just another facet of state control rock and
roll) need not w aste their time Cr mine by
sending stuff in
. If I actually recieve more
stuff that! can use I' ll use that for a2 nd
compilation tape, no one' s efforts w ill go
for naught.
Anyw ay, as you can probably tell by
the sloppy/disjointed state of theis letter,
it' s rather late so I better end this letter
here before it deteriorates any further.
Take care. Bye,
Steve
c/o Entertainment Revue
P . O
. Box 37 155
P heonix, AZ85069
MONEY TALKS
Dear MRR,
I amw riting to you about consumer
pow er. Everyone has to buy things in
contemporary society and your choice of
food,or records can be used politically . If
you refuse to buy anything from,for
example South Africa;or if you refuse to
buy records on CBI or EMI ;if you dont
buy products of multinationational
corporations ;you can encourage more
deserving products to succeed . If you
do,big companies w ill have to think tw ice
before they put money before morals in
their search for profits.
One example is punx telling big
record companies to fuck off in ' 7 7 .
Another is the British housew ives boycott
of veal ( w hich comes fromIambs kept
eternally in matchboxes).
If you publiciz e your action : w rite a
letter, tell other people, it w ill be more
effective. Ask if vivisection has been used
to test pharmaceuticals etc . ,find out w here
things come from. Support smaller products
w hich may be better than the bigger ones.
Ignore glossy adverts mesmeriz ing you into
buying rubbish.
Another thing- punk is meant to be
home made so don' t sit on your butt
receiving records through stores.
COMMUNICATE! Write to people + send off
for tapes etc . . . . That w ay it may be
cheaper ;you' ll find out more about bands
and greedy bastards in large record
companies w ill suffer
. Support your scene
!
Anyone w rite,especially if you w ant to
sw ap records, tapes . z ines ,addresses, ideas
etc
. Also bands please w rite if you' d like
to be on aw orld compilation tape. Be
patient,all

mail

answ ered.

BE
YOURSELF,P eace,LoveP aul, 15
V ictoria

Embankment, Nottingham

NG2
2 J Y, England
Dear MRR,
O . K
. Crimestoppers,w hats the deal? I
w as cleaning one of my DEAD KENNEDY' S
records, Fresh Fruit, and I spied these
w ords w ritten on the albumat the end of
the tracks.
"Do you deserve to live ?" ( Side 1) and
"Is life as boring as you are??" on ( side
2 ) . Allright, so I decided to check afew
more of my albums & this is w hat I
found
MDC- Millions of Dead Cops
"No War, No KKK, No Fascist USA"
MINOR THREAT- Out of Step LP
" $3 . 50P ost paid- cashing in"
DESCENDENTS- Milogoes to college
Side 1 "I w asn' t apunk w hen it didn' t
count"Side 2 "Spillage"
BLACK FLAG- Everything Went Black" LP
"So maybe w e are w aiting for an alloy
savior,Oz z ie?" "Feeling uneasy?- Chavo sez
here comes Dez . J ealous anyone ?"
"Robo is God- spacing out to the beat of a
different drummer"
BLACK FLAG- DamagedLP
Side 1 "Comin at ya"
Side 2 "The w hole gelatinous thing"
ADOLESCENTS- Adolescents LP
Side 1 "Chuck is bald,Robo w as"
Side 2 "Brutus,w heres my raisinhead?"
Also D. K. s P lastic Surgery Disasters
Side 1 "198' t happened in 1930
. And w e are
just now finding out about it"- Black Randy
Side 2 "He w ho makes peaceful revolution
impossible makes violit revolution
inevitable"- J . F. K.
Q uestions- Who puts these on the records?
Are they all the same? Has anyone else out
there read these?
Thanx for the time- Mad Mike Krieger
P
. S
. J ello Biafraand Winston Smith thanks
for your interesting and thought provoking
artw ork!
P . S. S. Are there any hardcore fanatics in
Colorado Springs? I just got here and it' s
an excellent city .
MINOR AMP LIFICATION
Dear MRR,
First off, thanks for the obituary in
MRR #10. I just w anted to clarify one
thing that came out abit distorted . The
decision to break- up w as made by the
entire band; it w as not solely my decision.
I thought it w as unfair to make it sound
like one day I decided to quit and that
w as it, w hen in fact it w as discussed by
everybody . Most importantly, Lyle, Brian,
and J eff should be given the respect they
deserve because they certainly w ere as
much apart of MINOR THREAT as I w as.
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By the w ay, I think rock' n' roll sux!
No offense! I live in P ortland, Maine.
Where, you ask? Well, the scene here is
pretty dead, And I, being one of the ones
w ho became part of it just as it died, am
left all fucked up and now here to go
. I
mean, all my friends w ho knew me during
childhood hate me now , because I stepped
out of their w orld and into the fast lane,
and now that my family has gotten used to
associating me to anything vulgar and
insulting, the w hole scene is in ruins!
there' s nothing to do but get drunk or
take drugs ( not that those are very bad
w ays to go), but hell, I can get that at
any redneck party in the w orld! There' s
nothing that says to passers- by that "This
is P ortland, Maine
" unless they are looking
for some action, then they ' ll remember that
they didn' t find it here! I don' t know w hat
to do
. There' s alw ays the thought of just
being an individual w ith no bonds to my
particular class, but then life gets
confusing, because you tend to spread
yourself too thin
. P lease send the cavalry!
P aige Faulkner/ 39 Holly St/ P ortland ME
04103
REAL MEN DON' T WATCH Q UINCY
Dear Max,
In MRR#10( Dec
. ' 83), some J oe Hardcore
named
. . . , w ell, never mind . We don' t need
to mention any names . Anyw ay, this guy
w rote about how he thinks it' s great that
"Chips" and "Q uincy" and things like that
exist because "' Chips' and ' Q uincy' scare
off people fromliking punk ; that' s w hat' s
really cool about it . " I beg to differ
. First
of all, Mr . Hardcore, the punk image those
show s w ere giving the nation w ere, at
least according to the Seattle scene - and
hopefully most others - w as absurd
. We
don' t "throw stolen basses off buildings
w hich w e apparently practice in" nor do
w e "light buildings on fire because w e
might lose aBattle of the Bands to Susan
Richardson' s w avo band," do w e? So let' s
not encourage lies about ourselves, ok?
Secondly, you must have no cares or
concerns about the present or future
w orld, because if you did, you w ould w ant
themvoiced and acknow ledged
. I' msorry,
but that means acceptance
. P unk isn' t a
masquerade freak show for you to
participate in to battle your boredom.
Thirdly, your statement w here you say
something to the extent of
: if punk is
accepted, that means no more rebellion . If
you think the objective of rebellion is to
alw ays rebel, you' re really fucked
. And
lastly, I think you over- exaggerated about
buying the SUICIDAL TENDANCIES Ip at a
chain store in the new "muz ak" section.
Even if you did have to, w ho cares - $
w ould still be S
. If you' re still w orried
about people not taking asecond look at
you, don' t w orry, they w on' t stop.
Because by the impression I get, you' re
w alking around w ith your head up your
ass
. Let' s all take care of ourselves and
use our heads . And remember, Safety
First. Weetie, KILDARES, Seattle
P . S. The "Sixties P unk" article w as
fantastic
. Thanx!
OUTCASTS OUTREACH
I w as surprised to see apositive
review of our ( Belfast' s OUTCASTS)
"Now here Left To Run" in MRR
. I agree it
w as along w ay fromour earlier material;
but about 8 months back w e decided to
suspend gigging and get back to some
re- w riting and re- direction
. We did this in
reaction to so much dead end, pointless,
and pretentious thrashings amongts British
bands, supposedly standing under the
same banner of punk
. Everybody seemed
to be making the same old raise and
ranting against nothing in particular.
Surely this is along w ay
fromthe original
roots of punk w hich I remember w ere
something to do w ith originality and being
different, being honest, being yourself,
using your brain to expose absurdity,
using your music to excite.
The spirit of the outsider that alw ays
drove us on, is completely lacking in the
juvenile, copyist, recipe punk that
pretends to itself to be radical.
So, as I say, w e consolidated our
seperation fromall this by w orking on
different musical arrangements . OK, and
w hat came out of the pipe w as "Now here
Left To Run", apiece w ith, as J eff Bale
states, "beautiful dance- oriented" sound,
but hopefully still containing our
characteristic claustrophobic edge.
Keep changing is w hat w e' ve alw ays
done, stay seperate fromthe crow d.
There' s nothing more boring than w hen the
"radicals" ( so called) outnumber the
"normals" ( so called).
"Now here Left To Run" has been said
to sound like "Ennio Morricane meets Gary
Glitter in Boot Hill Cemetary" . Maybe our
next one w ill be more like "Eddie Cochran
meets Alice Cooper at the P early Gates".
You have been w arned!
Ross Graham
P
. S. Anyone w anting any OUTCASTS
material ( records, t- shirts, etc), should
w rite to the horses mouth- - c/o The Row /
8allydon Rd/ Killinchy/ County Dow n/ N
Ireland .
THE GHOST OF TESCO V EE
Dear Tim,
So now I know how to get into MRR- -
kiss your feet, pay some 5, and give you
aB. J . I must say I w as disgusted at this
attempt at acartoon joke. I w onder if you
really thought it w as cute and funny! or if
your macho male ego just couldn' t resist
just this one- time ego pow er play.
We all know you have lots of pow er in
the coummunity/punk/scene- - after all you
have an international z ine and aradio
show
. But I' mreally surprised you' re not
totally embarrassed to be part of asad
joke that admits to the fact that most
pow erful people can be bought off by
ass- kissing and free sex . P oor Tim! Maybe
you' d like to be bought off, or maybe
you' re just horny- - hoping your cartoon in
MRR #10w ill get you something more.
Or maybe I have asick sexist
feminist view point. But I' mreally
surprised at you Tim. Better stop the
disease now , before it spreads.
I read all your issues and mostly
think you' ve done aw hole lot to unify the
punk scene and open up much needed
political dialogue. P lease don' t go the w ay
of Hustler magaz ine!

Spunky, Oakland CA.

Dear Spunky,
You bet I regret running those
photos
. Grant fromthe HUSKERS called me
to say his law yers w ould be in touch w ith
me cause he hasn' t been able to get adate
since that issue came out!

Tim
Hello Hello Hello,
My name is Bambi, I' m2 2 , and bored
w ith all the useless crap w ritten in most
musical mags
. Don' t w annalisten to them
anymore. Thank God ( ?!) there are many
fanz ines in my country
. Some are shitty,
some are OK
. I sing for aband called
NAGASAKI
. We started afew months ago,
and have alot of improving to do
. We also
are starting az ine
. It' s called V olonta
d' Az ione ( Willingness To Act), and w e
e
seeking contributors fromall over country
at the moment . Of course, w e w ill have a
lot of problems, but w e w on' t give up and
w e w ill get w hat w e w ant in the end
( w illingness to act).
We don' t w ant to be labeled punk
. If you
give someone alabel to identify him/her
fromother people, you simultaneously lock
him/her in acage. A label is alw ays a
negation of someone' s freedom. You can
dress in black, hace spiked hair, etc,
w ithout calling yourself "punk"
. We don' t
w ant labels
; w e w ant freedom.
Diego Gherbavaz ! V iaDei P orta9/ 34141
Trieste/ Italy.
0
Mr. Rabid-
I don' t agree w ith w hat you said about
"generic" hardcore in MRR#7 . Bands may
sound generic to you, but if they like
playing the music that they do, and they
really believe in their lyrics, it shouldn' t
matter. Also, the more you really know a
band, their ow n little pockets of creativity
and uniqueness become clear . There are a
couple bands I know that I' msure you
might call "generic", but even if the music
may sound generic, their live show s are
really good. Or the people in the bands
may actually be really clever and creative,
but not talented. As I recall reading
interview s w ith older bands, many state
that early punk w as great because musical
talent doesn' t matter . Some groups are
taking the time to go on stage and/or
putting out records w ithout caring if they
have talent . Hardcore to some is often lots
of fun . Creativity is great, but if every
new band plays thrash music are they
"generic"?
George

J etson/319

Hill

St . /Northville,
MI/48167
Hi You All Folks,
This is something I really need to
say : I spent one month in your country
and I' ve found that people are really
great . Reading z ines, I expected' to find
just bullies or "I don' t give afuck about
you" people. w ell man, I found some of the
best guys I' ve ever met in my life. NO
SHIT!
So this is, first of all, aw ay to say
thanks to you all at one time, but it' s also
aw arning! The GDHC and my band,
CHEETAH CHROME MOTHERFUCKERS, are
w orking hard to ensure U. S. bands pretty
good show s back in Italy, and non- profit
distribution of records and stuff! So, get
in touch w ith us if you w ant to come over
to Italy.
There' s no particular order to this
list
: just in the order that I met you! So,
thanx to: Dave, Greg, Kira, Bill, Dez
( SST) / Al, Holly and P ete/ Shaw n ( YOUTH
BRIGADE)/ Laura/ Chris, Dave ( Bad
Compilation Tapes)! Duvell, Wild Ron, and
Sexy Suz anne ( the odd couple)/ Leading
Edge Zine, KCR Radio! Esteban, Caesar,
and Erci and all Tijuanapunx and skaters/
Scott Sumpy, ever- laughing brother/
P rogressive mother Tim, J eff Madness and
the Craz y Umbrellas ( skunk band from
Berkeley), Ruth eh, eh, eh . . . Erikkaand
Scott ( both from' Frisco' ), Brian, Steve
Spinali, Allison ( she just don' t
understand) / DETONATORS, J ello and his
Xmas socks, guy w ith the Red Brigades
t- shirt! Rob, Tufty, and TOXIC REASONS'
5 guys . .
. w e w ant you), Winston Smith,
D. R. I . ( fast as ashark), Anitaand
Tammy ( MDC crew )/ Kenny, Dave and
D. O. A. /

P aul

Z!

J orge

( Upstart
Distribution) / Domino P iz z a/ Frenchie.
P lease keep in touch, you all . The
address is CCM/ Antonio Cecchi/ V ia
V eneto 5! 56100P isa/ Italy
P . S
. Antonio, how about Flint' s Barbeque?
Dear MRR,
For some time your magaz ine has been
dealing w ith problems that have long
plagued scenes identified w ith punk rock:
racism, violence, police, provocation, etc.
How ever, I feel that your approach has
suffered fromanaivete that has only
served to w orsen these problems through
its refusal to understand them
. I felt this
naivete reached its point of absurdity in
the "Skinhead To Godhead" article. In that
piece, TimY describes four general
categories of kids w ho have been attracted
to

punk :

fun

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part

people;
musical/artistic

people;

rebels ;

and
"seekers" . How ever, there is afifth
category that he ignores the existence of,
even though his article directly deals w ith
this very category . It' s amanifest case of
refusing to see the forest for the trees.
The category I' mspeaking of are
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have become associated w ith it ( especially
those of those of the majority w ithin the
punk movement of Britain of the late ' 7 0s0
and w ho come into the punk scene to
destroy it . This category includes members
of

various

fascist

groups,
police/government/military intelligence
plants, and members of various fanatical
religious cults . I also think representatives
of certain groups that call themselves
"communists" w ould go into this category.
As someone w ho w as involved w ith both
the Chicago and New York scenes for
several years, I dealt w ith these people
first hand and there is no doubt in my
mind that it is avery real problem.
I think it is necessary to point that
w hat is involved here is not innocent
prosletyz ing or the putting forw ard of
honest differences, but rather violence to
both property and people, up to and
including murder . Everyone w ho has been
involved w ith the scene intimately know s
that there has been an uncomfortable
number of strange deaths.
If you read the lyrics of the tw o
"songs" printed along w ith the article:
"Our Sw ord" and "The Gospel" ( by
CIRCLE ONE), the fascistic undertone can
hardly be missed . P eople w ho are this
w hipped by religion have proven to be
quite capable of murder in the name of
"the lord" ; the history of modern religion
literally drips w ith the blood of victims of
"righteousness" . It makes obvious the
origin of much of the fanatical
anti- communism, homophobia, and racism
that has plagued the scene. I think TimY
is making areal mistake in underplaying
this problemand ignoring the root cause.
The mistake is compounded by the fact
that Timhimself is clearly on the hitlist of
these elements . He talks about aperson
named J ohn as "the krishnapunk", but
turns around to name several other figures
of leading NYC "hardcore" bands ( REAGAN
YOUTH, ANTIDOTE). Anyone w ho has
actually seen and heard themw ould hardly
be surprised that they turned out to be
vehicles

for

religious

fanatics
.

I' m
certainly not.
About ayear ago, some people
involved w ith bands in NYC like
COUNTER- FORCE, the ABUSED, and NO
THANKS, along w ith other people, put
together agroup of "Hardcores Opposed to
U. S. Intervention in El Salvador . I became
involved w ith this group . After afew
w eeks w orking w ith the people in it, it
became obvious that the people involved
w ere using a"political" cover to advance
things like vegetarianism, religious
pacifism, etc . I w ant to make clear that I
do not in any w ay deny the right of
people to advocate these things
. What I am
opposed to is people using subtrefuge to
put forw ard such ideas and then
condemning those w ho refuse to be
brainw ashed as "evil"
. The fact that these
groupings and cults have to use such
methods demonstrates that they really have
no confidence in their ow n dogmas, and
that they realiz e that w ithout some sort of
"radical" or "counter- cultural" disguises,
most young people w ill not even give them
the time of day.
Finally, I think it is important to put
all of this into alarger context . We live in
aw orld w here the existing society is
descending headfirst into deeper and
deeper crisis
. This makes the people w ho
run this society ( capitalists and their
military and political accomplices) very
desperate. Any country that has one of
the mightiest military forces ever
assembled on the face of the earth and yet
claims to feel threatened by atiny island
of 110,000people in the Caribbean to the
point that they feel compelled to send
1000' s of troops to occupy the island and
smash its government is clearly run by
very

desperate

people.

It

is

this
desperation that compels themto mobiliz e
those elements driven into psychosis by
the devestation of everyday life in this
society and use themas ashock- force
against any and all w ho oppose the policies
of those that run this society . I think that
this obliges all of us w ho are serious about
effecting social change in this w orld to
think in terms of security ; of protecting
ourselves fromsuch conspiracies and
exposing and smashing themw here ever
possible.
Henry P latsky/ Rm312 / 2 30Duffield St/
Brooklyn NY 117 01-
Henry,
There may be much truth to your
insinuations about the lengths to w hich
this government could go ( and has before)
to smash opposition . And there may be
truth in your insinuations about "strange
deaths", etc . But you have presented no
factual evidence that connect these tw o
assumptions . In the article, I did not make
any accusations, because there is no
evidence to support them. I merely w anted
to raise the issue of the reactionary
aspects of religion . While it may be
possible that there are connections all over
the place, as you see them, you have not
proved the case. I w ouldn' t w ant to go
around making claims like that unless I
had real evidence to present the public.
P aranoiacan produce just as drastically
negative results as can infiltration . When
MRR w as under severe attack, it w ould
have been easy to say that it w as agovt.
plot to undermine our credibility, because
that kind of smear campaign technique had
been used in the past to discredit
radicals . But such aclaimby us w ould
have been insupportable. Rather, w e
w anted to deal w ith fromthe perspective
of : w hether w ell- intentioned, or
ill- intentioned, people should analyz e the
charges and w eigh themagainst the
reality . In the long run, that is the only
w ay to tell the trees fromthe forest.
Measure our deeds against our detractors
claims . Compare evidence. J udge for
yourselves . Don' t be led by us or them.
Therefore, it didn' t really matter if it w as
agents or cynics w ho w ere perpetrating
that campaign : their intended results w ere
the same. . . our destruction . But our
defense w ould not be based on half- baked
claims of subtrefuge or indulging in
paranoia, but rather an appeal to reason
and

fact .

Ultimately,

that

positive
approach w orked.
What I' mtrying to say to you is that
I feel the validity of some of your charges
is being lost because of the paranoia
( paranoiabeing unpro n fear) you
surround yourself in . Thos : deaths you
refer to: The only deaths I' ve know n in
the punk scene have been drug related.
P erhaps it' s different in NYC, but show
facts
. And don' t take me to task for not
going off half- cocked .

Tim
Dear MRR,
Let me complement you on Mykel
Boards' fine piece of w ork in MRR #10! At
least in my opinion he' s right
. But I know
that around here ( I don' t know about out
there) that if you are bisexual you are
also a"fag", therefore you might as w ell
be dead . That is unless "THEY" don' t find
out. Talk about tension!, or is that w here
all those drugs are supposed to come in,
or amI spoz e to have anervous
breakdow n before I' m18
. No thanx.
Having gone through all of the above by
the tender young age of 17 I have come to
the conclusion that
: "do w hatever you
goddamn please and if people pick on you
( w hich w ill happen) than you have to fight
themback
. There w ill never ( abit of
pessimismhere) be any stopping of this
beating up on the minority shit . Everyone
is aminority in someone else' s eyes.
You' re right that it w ould be great if
everyone suddenly became bisexual ( and
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happen
. Most people aren' t like that
. I' m
sure you opened up eyes for alot of
people,
hopefully some in my community
cause I' mrunning out of band- aids.
Michael Zimmerman/Overland
P ark, Kansas
Dear MRR,
Herein is alittle hate mail that' ll
hopefully contribute to making Mykel
Board' s column so "irregular" that it
disappears . I bought Mykel' s record "This
Is Art" ( I think), after laughing
uncontrollably upon hearing it at afriend' s
house years ago. Only bringing it home
forced me to read his elaborate, enclosed
lyric sheet and "personal adventures
. " The
second hearing it w as very clever, and the
third and last it w as clear w hat an
insidious and reactionary piece of garbage
his "art" is
. And his "column" has the
same approach and stench, for all of the
liberal strains and trends in "the
movement" should be subjected w ithout
mercy to re e T ntless constructive criticism,
unless it takes the pseudo- radical- hip form
Mykel is truly aself- annointed master of.
For the legions of Mykel- types w ho dot
and parasitically thrive off "the
movement", w ho build their careers or
make their living off the confusion amongst
many of "the w ay out",- - and to me "the
movement'

gives

lot of valuable
information, but does not answ er w hich is
the

w ay

out?" Tealistically- - these

arrogant, cynical assholes should be
distrusted, hated and w ill be violently
suppressed themselves, and that' s just as
necessary as shutting dow n the Klan
violently, cause that' s the only w ay you
can shut themdow n . See, Mykel is asort
3"the movement' s" ow n Allan Bakke
. He
says "social pressure causes people to hold
back part of their lust . In the case of
preventing rape, this is good
. " And later
that "' fag bashers' should be given w hat
they really w ant : fuck ' em. " Earlier he
"proves' ! Bakke- style, how the victims of
these "fag bashers" are at fault ( w ith the
dutiful disclaimer attached
: "in some cases
how ever"). Mykel proposes raping fag
bashers- - and he' s serious, for he, of all
people, could not bear to be accused of
liberal tisk, tisking themor limp-
w ristedly trying to merely shock his
readers w ith this proposal . Bashing back
"fag bashers" is asport all w ho have the
opportunity should indulge in, but w ith
the know ledge that this is no cure. Rape
is fundamentally violence, but done to
degrade your victim, and only atrue
pervert like Mykel equates this as a
catalyst for aw akening someone to the
"truth . " Defeating your opponents, even
violently but w ithout degradation, is the
only w ay to keep yourself fromgetting
sucked into the same sew er, and the only
possible w ay for some of those opponents
to learn some truth . P eople are different,
and for real understandable reasons in this
fucked- up w orld
. I' ve gotten fucked up by
and in this w orld, so I don' t take the
holier- than- thou position of "tolerating
myself or people like me
. " I also don' t
resign myself to being fucked up, or
capitulate to the madness by saying "I' m
part of it," you know , like Mykel' s
"there' s fags, so there' s fag bashers,
that' s life. " So for us "enlightened"
amateur critics of the w orld let' s agree
that fucking anything w ith ahole is w here
true freedomlies, that sucking dicks "in
your spare time" is more valid than
shouting "Death to the Klan", etc . Since
Mykel probably lusts for hate mail . . and
specifically requested it, let me end by
saying this letter is just aput- on, Mykel
is areal sw ell guy and agenuine artist, I
really love and respect him, and his
opinions should be carried more often by
MRR cause they' re so stimulating and
provocative, and I w ould love to meet you
in person so I could show you firsthand
how much I appreciate your efforts.
Stoney Reid
Dear MRR:
In regards to J eff' s response to my
letter, I w ill gladly w rite aletter about
SCREWDRIV ER' s confused values to any
z ine I see that prints an interview w ith
them
. I mention them, because I' mtrying
to think of bands that blatantly declare
themselves right- w ing ( as the DICKS
declare themselves communists) and I' m
having trouble thinking of any
. Of course
I' mlooking at it fromaliberal perspective
w hile you' re looking at it fromaleft- w ing
perspective, so you are more likely to
think aband is right- w ing than I am
. The
underlying point of my letter w as not to
say "AmericaRules", or Americais utopia,
but to say that if one considers themselves
acommunist, one should carefully delineate
their values fromthe totalitarianismthat
exists in Russiaand China
. I know that
Americais not aperfect example of a
democratic republic, but I felt no need in
my letter to criticiz e Reagan or his
predecessors as that w as not the focus of
my letter, and you guys and gals have
done agood job of it already
. Back to the
confused bands issue- - I criticiz ed SAV AGE
CIRCLE for having asw asticaon their
record sleeve in my review in Thrillseeker
of their EP ; I agree w ith my brother' s
review in Thrillseeker of the first IRON
CROSS EP
; and I w rote aletter to Ripper
( that never got printed) about w hat I saw
as acontradiction, ie
. , their criticismof
the MISFITS for the San Fran episode but
their approval of the FUCK- UP S. I don' t
believe any of these bands w ill come out
and say they' re right- w ing, but their
confusion seems to lean more in that
direction.
Finally, let me re- emphasiz e that my
view and perception of Americaleans
tow ards your view , but not as extreme
. A
friend of mine said that I w as a naive
liberal, you' re ( J eff) anaive anarchist,
and Tim' s anaive communist!
. Steve
Kiviat, Thrillseeker.
Dear MRR,
This concerns Steve Kiviat' s letter
describing Gary of the DICKS misguided
view of Stalinismand Maoism
. But more
importantly, I' d like to respond to J eff' s
and Tim' s ow n responses to that letter.
J eff/Now it may seemfoolish, if not
dow nright opportunistic, for me to speak
on behalf of someone like Steve w homI
don' t even know . But w hat I think
concerns him, and me for that matter, is
not the obvious confusions of bonehead
bands such as the F. U
. ' S and FUCK- UP S
( silly as they are, there are too many like
them) or as an earlier ish of MRR
revealed, the EFFIGIES' rather cynical
manner in exploiting the performing market
for their ow n purposes and singer J ohn' s
stubborn view of the competitive nature in
the realmof punk and his band' s
w illingness to go along w ith it
. Well, okay,
I suppose myself and others should have
responded to themissues earlier . Sorry.
But w hat really w orries me ( and
maybe Steve) is that someone like Gary of
the DICKS w ho comes across on vinyl,
live, and in interview s as generally aw are,
intelligent, and responsible ( and
fun- loving too) can be so misinformed in
regards to repressive communist regimes.
That caught my attention and I find that
really disturbing.
Tim/Now forgive me, for I may be
w rong ' concerning this point ( no doubt due
to my limited interest and info sources),
but I do recall reading somew here in the
past that the Cultural Revolution in China
w as abloody, misguided, and opportunistic
venture w hich resulted not in ademocratic
revolution, as you put it, but in a
mob- rule mentality w hich played directly
into the hands of the more corrupt and
reactionary elements w ithin the P arty . As
Mao died ( afunny time in w hich to initiate
a"revolution" w hen you' re dying,
considering that you' re also its instigator
and godhead), acynical pow er struggle
developed resulting in the repressive and
imperialistic nature of "Communist" China
today . And could it be true that many of
those former "cultural" radicals now hold
safe and secure positions w ithin China' s
current conservative government?
One more point ( Gaw d, isn' t
constructive criticismafucking bore?),
TimYo Mama' s column is great
. Your
recent dissemination of the Grenada
invasion w as thoughtful and informative.
But since that event occured w ithin aw eek
of the Beirut bombings, it seems you
could' ve combined the incidents into one
report
. Alex Zerchylov, Franklin MA.
Alex,
All I can say is that I agree
w holeheartedly w ith
every point you made
above! P lease w rite more often- - w e alw ays
appreciate thoughtful responses . J eff
Alex,
I think you have some facts w rong.
Mao died years after the Cultural
Revolution w as initiated . There is alot to
learn yet about the internal struggles
w ithin the Chinese Communist P arty, but it
has become apparent that Mao did not have
control over events there, that the
"capitalist roaders" eventually got the
upper hand, and after Mao' s death
initiated the "Gang of Four" trial to
eliminate the "radicals", and even today
are purging millions fromthe Communist
P arty for their " ultra- leftism"
. Tim
Dear MRR,
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Dear MRR,
You seemed to have kicked up some
shit over this thing called religion . J ust
tw o quick points : take alook at the
symbol of Christianity- - adead w hite male
nailed to across . With necrophilic
symbolismof this kind, it isn' t all that
surprising to see the mess this w orld is in
at the moment . w e w orship death and treat
it as anoble cause. Sexismis aprevalent
theme in most,

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flaw

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Herz en : "Could you explain to me, please,
w hy belief in God is ridiculous, but belief
in humanity is not ; w hy belief in the
kingdomof heaven is stupid, but belief in
utopiaon earth is clever?"
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Here' s astory that made the rounds in
N
. Y. last summer . You can check for
yourself if its true:
It' s about Dave of M. D
. C. , w hich at that
time stood for MILLIONS OF DEAD COP S.
It seems that Dave w as visiting the Rat
Cage, alocal hardcore store in the East
V illage. When he w ent in, Dave noticed
that the w indow w as boarded up and the
glass on the inside w as smashed . He asked
the store' s ow ner ( also named Dave) w hat
happened.
"Well, there is this craz y guy w ho w alks
around here all the time" said Dave Rat
Cage. "One day he just stood outside w ith
abrick and then threw it through the
w indow . "
"Shit!" said Dave M. D. C. , "Didn' t you call
the cops?"
I hope the story is true, but it really
doesn' t matter . I like it anyw ay
. I know
that there' s 100' s of spike braceletted
"anarchists" w ho w ould have done the
same. There' s not too many w ho w ould say
"Fuck the P igs" w hen they are being
chased dow n the street by apack of big
guys w ith knives.
You w ant to see anarchy in action? J ust
w alk into the toilet of any punk club.
That' s anarchy in action . Okay, sometimes
the police are guilty of abuses . They seem
to particularly pick on West Coast punks.
That only means w e need better police- - not
that w e need no police at all.
I know there are all kinds of sociological
and political reasons for crime
. There is a
culture of poverty . There' s the frustration
of feeling helpless . These are
understandable
. But you can' t expect
someone to do asociological study w hen a
gun is pointed at his stomach.
P eople are fucked up, for w hatever
reason . Leave themalone and they run
amok
. They tear toilets out of bathrooms,
start fights, kill people
. You w ant
anarchy? Try living in New York sometime.
"But punk rock is political" you w hine.
Let' s see
. Here' s abrief history:
Although it' s hard to date w hen punk
started, its probably safe ,to say that the
RAMONES w ere the first modern punk
group, starting in 197 5 . They w ere a
bunch of kids w ho played fast and loud
and w ore torn jeans and black leather
jackets . Other than that, they never put
on airs of being anything other than the
middle- class suburban kids they w ere.
When MalcolmMacClaren, former manager
of the NEW YORK DOLLS, brought punk
rock to England, he introduced apolitical
( originally nihilist) aspect to the image.
Other bands representing various political
spectrums then took up the banner and
political punk w as born
. In England, the
punk follow ers w ere generally w hite kids
w ith w orking class or low er middle class
backgrounds . Ther soon developed asplit
betw een the anarcho- nihilist punks ( eg,
the SEX P ISTOLS), the general left- w ing
punks ( eg, early CLASH), and the
right- w ing punks ( eg, the COCKNEY
REBELS) . Of course, the right- w ing punks
w ere the most popular w ith the w orking
class w hite youth of England.
In America, punk rock became political
only in the third generation, ie. . after it
w ent to England an returned in an
altered form. None of the original American
punk bands ( RAMONES, GERMS, RICHARD
HELL, etc
. ) w ere in any w ay political.
P unk started as arebellion against
corporate rock, and disco . It w as a return
to basics and areturn to fun- - that' s all.
It turned political in America, first in a
stupid attempt to copy the British, and
second w hen someone w anted to make a
movement again "just like in the sixties".
For the most part, these w ere people w ho
w ere barely alive in the sixties and knew
about it fromtheir high school civics class
and their older brothers w ho became
executives in large corporations.
P olitics, w ith rare exceptions, in American
punk is afad . It is as meaningful as MTV .
I' ve seen punks w ith the insigniaof the
politically pacifist CRASS emblaz oned on
the back of their leather jackets, throw
someone fromaband they didn' t like off
the stage. ( J ulien Nitz berYg, frommy
band, ARTLESS, as amatter of fact . )
After he w as throw n off, he w as promptly
stepped on and kicked in the head.
Here' s another story, this one I know is
true:
I w as standing on Bleecker Street, w aiting
for my driving instructor . Dow n the street
comes this w hite guy kicking over garbage
cans and screaming to himself
. I try to
move out of his path, but he comes up to
me anyw ay.
"You got adollar?" he asks.
"Sorry," I say shrugging my shoulders.
He punches me in the mouth . It takes four
stitches to close the hole my tooth made in
my lip . Oh no
. No anarchy for me, thank
you
. I' ve just healed.
Here' s astory that made the rounds in
S. F. last summer . You can check for
yourself if it' s true ( sure):
It' s about J ohn Crayfish of Babbling
Doodler, w hich at that time stood for very
little, as it does now . It seems that J ohn
w as visiting the Tool & Die, alocal
hardcore venue. When he came out, J ohn
noticed that there w ere paddyw agons all
over the place. He asked acop w hat
happened.
"Well Dickw ad, there w ere these kids that
just don' t belong here, looking all w eird
and disturbing the peace" said the cop.
"We just had to w ade in and beat the shit
out of them. "
"Gosh!" said J ohn Crayfish, "Let me
help . " I hope the story is true, but it
really doesn' t matter . I like it anyw ay . I
know that there are 100' s of red- blooded
Americans w ho w ould have done the same.
There' s not too many w ho w ould say "Fuck
the P igs" w hen they are helping the cops
restore political and moral order to
society.
You w ant to see conservatismin action?
J ust w alk into any punk rock gig. That' s
status quo in action . Okay, sometimes the
kids are guilty of "thought- crimes" against
the

authorities .

They

seem

to

be
particularly influenced by certain
troublemaking "political" West Coast bands.
But that only means w e need less bands
that provoke dangerous ideas- - not that w e
need no bands at all
.
I know there are all sorts of sociological
and political reasons for reactionaries.
There is aculture of greed and mythical
upw ard mobility
. There' s afeeling of
helplessness in the face of the "commie
threat" constantly bludgeoned into us by
politicians
. These are understandable. You
can' t expect someone to acritical thinker
w hen he' s busy feeding his stomach.
P eople are fucked up, for good reasons.
Leave themalone, and they run amok.
They tear toilets out of bathrooms, start
fights, kill people
. You w ant reactionaries?
Try living in Anytow n U. S. A. sometime.
"But punk rock is political" you w hine.
Let' s see. Here' s abrief history:
In America, punk rock became disturbingly
politically progressive after punks, for
some stupid reason, got sick of the
negativity, trendiness, and pop- star
values of some of the original N . Y . bands
( RAMONES, DICTATORS,DEAD BOYS,
etc), and aw hole range of progressive
degenerates w ere born ( DILS, AV ENGERS,
ZEROS, etc)
. P unk rock started as a
politically conservative movement disguised
as "apolitical" ( of course, there is no such
thing as apolitical) w ith aminor
rebelliousness against the major labels w ho
didn' t sign themup fast enough . But
these other bands dared to reject New
York' s lead, and foo iTly broadened the
scope of aw areness . It turned politically
progressive in the rest of Americain an
attempt to break the intentionally limited
boundaries set by those w ho, because of
some of the failures of the sixties
generation, responded by becoming totally
reactionary . For the most part these w ere
people w ho w ere barely alive in the
sixties, and knew about it only fromthe
marvelous brainw ashing re- w rite of history
they got in their civics class, or fromthe
propagandaof cynical defeatists, like
myself, left over fromthe sixties, now out
to show how foolish rebellion really is.
Although it' s hard to date w hen punk
started, it' s probably safe to say that the
RAMONES w ere the first modern punk
group, starting in 197 5 . They w ere a
bunch of kids w ho played fast and loud
and w ore torn jeans and black leather
jackets
. Other than that, they never put
on airs of being anything other than the
co- opted, conservative middle- class
suburban kids they w ere.
When MalcolmMacClaren, former manager
of the NEW YORK DOLLS, brought punk
rock to England, he introduced apolitical
( originally nihilist) aspect to the image.
Other bands representing various political
spectrums then took up the banner and
political punk w as born . In England, the
punk follow ers w ere generally w hite kids
w ith w orking class or low er middle class
backgrounds
. There soon developed asplit
betw een the anarcho- nihilist punks ( eg,
the SEX P ISTOLS), the left- w ing punks
( eg, early CLASH), and the right w ing
punks ( eg, SKREWDRIV ER).
Unfortunately, the left- w ing punks w ere
the most popular w ith the w orking class
w hite youth of England.
P olitical intelligence, w ith few exceptions
in America, needs to be squelched
. It is
as rare as bands like the CRUCIFUCKS
and M. D. C
. , but grow ing. I' ve seen punks
w ith the insigniaof WHITE FLAG
french- kissing people in bands they didn' t
like. They tried doing that to me, and
after I threw themoff the stage, I
promptly stepped on and kicked themin
the head, only to find out later they w ere
really cool conservatives, and I had
mistaken that emblemfor the CRASS logo.
Speaking of "anarchy", as I w ell know ,
it' s aserious theory that encourages
people to take responsibility for their lives
and actions
. Fortunately, not too many
punks know this, and most think it means
allow ing chaos to run rampant . I' mnot
about to set themstraight- - he he.
Here' s another story, this one I know is
true:
I w as standing on Mission St . , w aiting for
my chauffeur . Dow n the street comes this
"White Boy" kicking over garbage cans and
screaming to himself . I try to move out of
his path, but he comes up to me anyw ay.
"You got aFUCK- UP S EP ?" he asks.
"Sorry" I say shrugging my shoulders
. He
punches me

in

the mouth,

yelling
something about being afriend of Mykel
Board' s
. I try to tell him"that' s me", but
too late. It takes four stitches to close the
hole my tooth made in my lip
. Oh no. No
mindless liberalismfor me, thank you
. I' m
w ell- heeled.
SMILE! BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU
Well, 1984 is finally here and more and
more it seems to be not just in the
temporal sense either . I remember several
years ago after reading George Orw ell' s
book, I w ondered if just by some strange
coincidence, w e might acutally find
ourselves suddenly plunged into a"1984"
type of environment in the year 1984.
Later I dismissed the ideaas asilly
attribute of my vivid imagination, but now
upon reflecting on it I' mw ondering if it
w as such asilly thought after all
. In fact,
I' mw ondering if maybe w e haven' t actually
been experiencing asubtler, yet
potentially as dangerous formof the mind
numbing type of environment Orw ell w as
referring to, for several years now . In
any case I certainly don' t think that I' m
being paranoid w hen I say that if it' s not
here now in some formor another, then
it' s definitely just around the corner.
One of the reasons w hy I feel this w ay is
because of oyur passive and accepting
attitude tow ards the current technological
boomand the effect it' s having on our
lives . As time goes on, our society seems
to be increasingly w illing to allow
corporations and governments to talk us
into accepting more and more technology
into our lives for "convenience" and
"safety' s" sake. Unfortunately one of the
big problems w ith this trend is that it
makes compiling information on an
individual w ithout his or her consent far
more convenient and safe as w ell.
The computeriz ed credit card systemis a
good ' example of technology being utiliz ed
for "convenience' s" sake, that can doublely
serve as aconvenient source of information
for the state. Every time acredit card
user makes apurchase, the itempurchase,
price of the item, and date and place of
purchase are recorded and stored in a
computer memory bank . Obviously over a
period of time atremendous amount of
information could be gained fromtapping
into this common purchasing system. An
interested party could relatively easily
learn w hat you' ve bought, and w hen and
w here , you' ve bought it for the past
month, year, or maybe even several years
ago.
While w e' re on the subject of cards, w e
should give some thought to the new
library card system. This handy little
computeriz ed time saver records the title
and general subject matter of each book
checked out by the user, and, once again,
files it aw ay in acomputer memory bank.
Of course, as w ith the credit card, it also
records the date and place on/at w hich the
card w as used. More important, how ever,
is that the information obtainable fromthis
source can give an interested party a
great deal of insight into an individual' s
personal interests and beliefs, by w ay of
learning w hat type of literature they read.
With the introduction of pay tv into
mainstreamsociety, the state now has the
ability to scrutiniz e the type of tv
programs aperson has an interest in . By
merely checking the records of apay tv
company, an interested party could easily
determine w hat show s a user has selected
for view ing and often they can even tell
w hether or not the user is at home
w atching them.
In J apan, the government has come up
w ith avery convenient systemfor billing
highw ay users that could also be used
quite effectively to moniter all automobile
users' movements throughout the country.
It' s made up of anetw ork of plates
embedded in the road that are placed at
intervals throughout the country' s highw ay
system. These plates are activated
w henever avehicle passes over themand
take apicture of asmall set of
. identification markings on the underside of
the vehicle. The information contained in
the identification markings is then relayed
to acentral computer and the ow ner of the
vehicle is accordingly billed for the
number of plates passed over along a
particular route. Obviously, for anyone
interested in tracing aparticular person' s
movements in arural area, this systemis
invaluable. It sort of reminds me of the
" J ersey Turnpike. "
A good example of technology being
utiliz ed in the interest of "safety" that
' s also subject to misuse by the state, is
the w ire tapping of private
communications . This method of gathering
information has become more and more
commonplace over the past few years and
is now routinely used by the state to
further their "criminal" investigations.
Here in Canadain 1982 the police applied
for authoriz ations to bug over 500
individuals and everyone of themw as
granted . New developments in the
technology of bugs over the last few years
has been amaz ing.
One type of bug recently developed is able
to use the lighting in aroomas it' s pow er
source
. Another type of bug can be
inserted fromthe outside of abuilding,
thereby making an aw kw ard and illegal
entry into the building by the installer
unnecessary
. P robably one of the most
impressive new developments in the bug
w orld is the parabolic microphone, w hich
can be merely aimed at the building,
vehicle, or persons speaking out in the
open

to

pick

up

the

"target' s"
conversation . Certainly intercepting a
person' s private communications w ithout
their know ledge is one of the most
effective methods of gathering information
on them. It' s the next best thing to
reading their minds, and it can definitely
be one of the best tools of repression.
The state has recently taken afancy to
closed circuit tv systems and more and
more, w e find ourselves being w atched . We
see tv cameras at banks, stores, gas
stations, shopping malls, airports, subw ay
stations, museums, art galleries, and
courthouses . In Australia, they even have
cameras monitering several traffic
intersections . They may not be everyw here
yet, but they' re certainly w ell on the w ay
to being as commonplace as streetlights in
some areas . The observations made w ith
these systems are often recorded and kept
on file and could be used by an interested
party for w hatever purposes they w ished.
Apparently you don' t need to move to
Hollyw ood anymore to be in the movies.
On amore serious note, one of the more
frightening technological systems recently
developed in the name of safety is anew
method of keeping tabs on people out on
parole, currently being utiliz ed in the
U. S. It consists of aplastic ankle bracelet
fitted w ith atiny radio transmitter, a
radio receiver, and acomputer . The w ay
it w orks is the ankle bracelet locked on
the parolees upon their release fromprison
continuously transmits asignal to the
receiver w hich is connected to the
parolee' s home phone. Should the parolee
leave the home during atime forbidden by
the parole regulations, the signal w ill
become too w eak for the receiver to pick
up and the computer w hich constantly
moniters the signal viathe phone line w ill
instantly become aw are of the violation and
proceed to make anote of it in it' s memory
bank . In my opinion, the introduction of
this systeminto society is agiant leap
forw ard for the state tow ards cold- blooded
and effective population control and should
be acause for alarm.
Recently in W. Germany another type of
high- tech systemcame into operation
that' s designed specifically for the
collection of information on individuals.
Created alledgedly to combat terrorism, the
"National Identity Card" programrelies on
an extensive computer systemand aplastic
card w hich bears the name, number, and
thumb print of the user. Carrying a
national identity card w hen outside the
home in W. Germany is compulsory, and
changes in the users life, such as a
change in address, purchase of acar, and
aquiring or losing ajob, must be
registered immediatly w ith arepresentative
of the program. If stopped by police, they
can merely insert the users card into a
mobile scanning terminal linked w ith the
main computer, and have acurrent indepth
readout on the users back round on the
spot . Obviously this systemw ould also
make an excellent tool for ruthless state
repression.
Another reason w hy it seems to me that w e
are w ell on the road to a"1984" type of
environment, is because lately I see an
increasingly blatent aversion to truth and
reality by the state that is also for the
most part being passively accepted by
society . Everyday prime examples of w hat
Orw ell referred to as "double speak" are
popping up all over the place. This
concept of "double speak" involves the
manipulation of language and the distortion
of facts, and serves to delude and
desensitiz e society.
Here in Canadaw e have some good
examples of "double speak" . For instance
the law that enables the police to w iretap
an individuals private conversation, often
breaking into their home and disturbing
their personal belongings in the process,
is officially know n as the "P rivacy Act".
How ever,the average Canadian no doubt
assumes the P rivacy Act is alaw
protecting themfrominvasions of their
privacy . In V ancouver anew jail w as
recently built to contain accused persons
aw aiting trial . P eople imprisoned there w ill
be deprived of the usual things an inmate
must do w ithout, including the ability to
make an adequate defense, and they w ill
sometimes be kept there for several years.
The

government

named

this

latest
high- tech concrete tomb "P re- trial
Services", and again the name is obviously
highly misleading and desensitiz ing.
J ust recently w e heard the mass media
repeatedly echo the U. S. governments line
that the invasion of Grenadaw as a
"Rescue Mission", supposedly to evacuate
American citiz ens in danger and to restore
and maintain democracy . There is still not
ashred of evidence how ever to show that
any American citiz ens w ere in any
particular danger
. The fact of the matter
G ERRY
HANNAH
TN ! VAN C O UVER !
O a a l~ P rison,
Draw

Burnaby
B.C
., C awds, VfN ]11s
is that the U. S. government merely
utiliz ed the bloody Marxist coup as an
opportunity to set up yet another freindly
puppet regime in their ow n backyard, so
that now the island' s resources and people
can be fully exploited by U
. S
. business
interests . The mediaw ould have us forget
that this same government ( for all intents
and purposes) that is supposedly so
concerned about maintaining democracies,
actually heloed initiate and effect the
bloody fascist coup in Chile in 197 3 that
brought into pow er one of the most brutal
and vicious regimes since the Third Reich.
Last but not least, w e come to aclassic
example of "double speak" that' s so blatent
it' s almost funny . With multiple nuclear
w arheads, all many more times pow erful
than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima, and
ahighly accurate longrange delivery
system, the MX missile is one of the
deadliest w eapons ever created . Ronald
Reagan calls it "( and w ants us to call it)
"The P eace keeper".
The examples that I' ve given of the state' s
"machinery", that is, or w ill inevitably be
used to control and mislead us, really
amount to just the tip of the iceberg . The
same is true in regard to the extent to
w hich I expounded on the dancer it posee.
As dangerous as this machinery may oe,
as I said before it' s ou - attitude tow ards it
that really concerns me, and it' s the very
existence of that attitude that makes me
w onder if w e are not already experiencing
amild formof "1984"
. The fact that our
society can passively sit by and w atch
( and

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enthusiastically
participate in) the develpoment of
machinery that w ill help to bring about our
ow n total oppression , could w ell mean that
w e remember already hopelessly under
control of the state. A state that' s learned
that as much can often be gained by
charming and beguiling apopulation into
submission, as by brutaliz ing it . To be
totally honest though, I don' t think the
situation is hopeless yet . There is still a
chance. Its vitally important that w e
remeber that the machinery of the state
can' t w ork w ithout our cooperation
. If w e
refuse to be part of it and w ork hard to
expose it right now for w hat it is, then w e
may still be able to one day close forever
the factory that fouls the land, w ater and
air, and creates such monsterous
machinery . If not, then I' mafraid George
Orw ell' s w arning w ill have been in vain,
and barring global nuclear w ar, "1984" w ill
become areality.
CONTACTS THROUGH THE MAIL
Hi! P ushead here
. Well, I kissed their
stinky feet, and it took me aw hile to find
the thing to blow , these guys are easily
bribed w ith records, and I had to buy
themnew photos of Stalin, Mao, Marx,
Lenin, and Mussolini ( since I squirted pus
all over their priz ed pictures), but I
finally got my ow n column! So here I am;
now w hat did I w ant to say? I forgot. Had
to do so much to get here, lost my
purpose.
Now , since you can rely on politics from
the rest of the gang, I' mgoing to venture
into creative forms, alot of info to help
everyone out . All suggestions or additional
information are w elcomed- - please send it
off to me. Thanx .
One of the most frequent questions I' m
asked about concerns "contacts thru the
mail" . Everyone is familiar w ith the postal
system, so now on to how do you w rite to
someone? A band? A fanz ine? A foreign
country? Everyone has, their ow n method,
so here are a few tips of mine to help out.
A. No matter w ho you w rite to, please
make sure you print your address clearly,
both on the envelope, and inside ( in case
it gets mangled), especially for first- time
contacts.
B. Whether w riting in gratitude or for
information, etc, please include astamp ( if
w riting w ithin
your ow n country). If
there' s alot of mail for themto answ er, it
can really take abite out of the pocket.
C.
What to say or how to get areply:
some people w ill w rite you back
immediately, and some w ill never w rite you
at all
. If your plans are to communicate
w ith an individual, you can perhaps tell
something about yourself, your scene,
w hat made you w rite, bands you like
. This
is agood w ay to start trading info and
product ( records, tapes, z ines)
. A lot of
people w ant to trade records . If yo r u in
aband, talk about that, use your
imagination . "Hi, w rite me" doesn' t really
give that person much to say back
. If
you' re w riting to afanz ine, think first.
Not all z ines are legitimate ( some are just
to get free records and might keep any
money sent them)
; so, if you' re not sure,
send astamp or S
. A. S. E. ( self addressed
stamped envelope) . Also, do not send
original materials, as they can be copied
w ithout your permission ( believe me) . Send
copies
. Magaz ines like Thrasher and MRR
accept material for possible useage.No
payment, but they do give it fair space
and they do like to help . If you w ish your
material back, include aSASE w ith the
correct postage. If you' re seeking product
or information, please specify w hat you
w ant
. If it costs, don' t send checks - too
many hassles . Money orders are the best
and only w ay to send money thru the mail.
Now , if it' s only adollar or so, use your
judgement . But if it' s more than $10, use
registered mail or something secure
. P ostal
employees have been know n to steal . So if
youlose your money in the mail, expect to
hear "nothing w e can do" . Most people you
w il deal w ith are trustw orthy, but
occasionally you' ll get arip- off artist.
Don' t give themachance to steal w hat' s
yours!
D. Bands . So you w ant to w rite aband.
Don' t hesitate - more than likely, they
love, your feedback . If you w ish areply,
alw ays send stamps or SASE. Getting a
reply depends on w hat you said and if
they' re there. Remember, bands tour . If
you' re trying to get aband' s product
( tape, record, flyers, stickers), alw ays
specify and ask for prices . For the fanz ine
communication, w here you send interview
questions for an article, it is best to send
acops of your fanz ine to they can see
w hat you do. Also, the usual stamps,
SASE. Usually, ask first if you can
interview themand how long it w il take for
themto reply
. Your next deadline is
alw ays good to mention . Then, your 2 nd
letter, you could send your questions,
once you know everything is o. k . . Now
some bands don' t do interview s, and some
don' t answ er mail at all, so don' t be
discouraged . What to say is up to you.
The more informative and creative, the
better! E. The big one: how to w rite to
foreign countries . Now everything changes
at the postal service for international mail.
First, aj ounce letter w ill cost
40C- U. S. /2 8p- U. K. , and an ounce letter
w ill cost 80C
. They can be real picky w ith
this! Be sure you have "Air Mail/P ar
avion" w ritten or stamped on the front of
the envelope. There is an air rate and a
surface rate ( surface takes 30- 90days and
might not look too good w hen it gets
there)
. For air mail, there is aprinted
matter/small packet rate , w hich is cheaper
, uses an easy customs sticker, but has a
requirement not to exceed 2 lbs
. The price
goes up considerably after 2 lbs and uses
a
more complicated customs form
. For
letters, postcards and aerogrammes are the
cheapest.
So now you w rite to someone in another
country . How do you get areply? You
can' t send your country' s stamps, or
money that isn' t valid there, so w hat do
you do? Well, there' s this slip of paper
called an I
. R . C. ( International Response
Coupon) that you can send to another
country w hich they can trade for stamps.
There is acatch to this
. On the back of
it, it states that you w ill get surface mail
stamps . Great
. A letter must go airmail
and in the U. S
. an IRC costs 65C, and if
you turned around and exchanged it, you
w ould get 2 6C w orth of stamps
. This is
because each country has different
currency rates
. So, sending one or tw o
IRCs usually does the job for someone in
Europe to w rite back.
UNION P OSTALE
COUP ON- REP ONSE

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a
I' etranger par vole de surface.
When you w rite to people in foreign
countries, remember to w rite especially
clearly, because English is not usually
their first language. Certain daily slang
terms may be difficult for them, and vice
versa. . But w rite w hen you can, because
you can make alot of great friends
through the mail.
F. Tricks of mailing. A lot of kids in
foreign countries soap or w ax the stamps,
w hich can then be w ashed off and reused,
so send themback to them( kids in other
countries tend to be poorer than
Americans). Don' t put tape over stamps,
cause the P . O. w on' t process them. Too
obvious . Also, you might get aw ay w ith
using less postage than necessary ( because
of the quantity of mail the P . O. has to
process), but foreign mail is more strict.
G. Finally, I haven' t covered everything,
but this should help those w ho have been
intimidated fromundertaking w riting . Don' t
be afraid to w rite people; everyone likes
to be corresponding. gig flyers are very
big in trading in this scene. Now , w hat I
have done here is assemble some addresses
of people all over the w orld that w ould
love to get correspondence; each has
something interesting about them
( individually, as aband member, fanz ine
publisher, radio station DJ , etc). So give
it atry!! P ushead/ 2 7 13 Kerr/ Boise ID
837 05
P . S
. My apoligies to anyone I' ve delayed
mail to recently . Certain schedueles have
made it difficult to get back as quick as
I' d like. If you' ve w ritten to me and
haven' t gotten aresponse, let me know !
Alasdair/ 12 Clifton st/ Nedlands
6009/
W . A. Australia
Bart Steens( z ine)/ jennekensstr 17 / 2 840
Haacht/ Belgium
Karna( z ine, band) / RuaP rincipado De
Monaco 68/307 / Rio De J aneiro 2 0001 Braz il
Doff Hermannstadter( band) / Salz mannstr
53/ 8900Augsburg/ W Germany
Henk Smit! Middenw eg 13b/ 1098 AA
Amsterdam/ Holland
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Yrsa( z ine, label, band)/ DK Decay/
Tietgens Alle 118/ 52 30Odense M/ denmark
Mick Slaughter( z ine) / 16 Cold Blow Cres/
Bexley, Kent/ England DA5 2 DS
Hans Burger( z ine, radio) / 1 P lace Maurice
gillet/ 2 92 00Brest/ France
Dirk Christoph( z ine, band) / Georg Treber
' Str 7 01/ 6090Russelsheiml W Germany
Roberto Farano( z ine) / tomasuolo/ Casella
P ostale 2 03/ 10100Tornio Centro/ Italy
V ote V asko( records) /

Box 69/ 40101

J yvaskyla10/ Finland
a
Most of you saw the letter fromJ ohn
Wendell about my criticismof the long
defunct NY chapter of the BYO ( MRR
#11)
. It started me on another train of
thought
. Today' s topic is journalists, and
w ithin this context, I w ould like to answ er
the criticisms.
Before beginning, I w ould like to point out
that in w riting his letter, Mr
. Wendel w as
making his view s public in an intelligent
fashion, and this ( unlike so many w ho
w ouldn' t submit to such public scrutiny) is
entitled to respect as someone is entitled
to his view s, and I do not take it
personally that they disagree w ith mine.
So long as he respects my right to my
opinion I w ill do the same. The reader is
alw ays entitled to disagree w ith me on the
opinions I present, but if you do indeed
disagree, then w riting aletter to MRR or
me is ahell of alot more productive than
deciding I' man asshole even though you
never met me.
This is adistinct problemthat all of us
w ho w rite face
. Why don' t people stop to
think about the complications of w riting
publicly? Without trying to pat all w riters
on the back, it is clear that in putting
one' s opinion constantly before areading
public, one is taking abig chance.
Whereas in private one can manipulate an
opinion to the individual' s tolerance
( including not giving one at all), w riting a
column or fanz ine exposes you to unheard
Robert P ennie/ 10Ravensw ood/ New park,
Muckamore/ Co
. Antrim/ N Ireland/ BT41
2 DG
J arek Grudnow ski/ UL Kosciusz ki 110/7 / 80
42 1 Gdansk- Wrz esz cz / P oland
J avier Ramon Gaston( z ine, radio)/ Calle
Maqueda, 13, 6 B/ Madrid 2 4/ Spain
P atrick J onsson( label)/ Hogliden 9E/
59500
Mjolby / Sw eden
Gregor Karpov( band)/ Bratov Ucakar 42 /
61000Ljubljana/ Yugoslavia
Arto Nyberg/ Kirkkokatu 16 A2 / 37 830
V iiala/ Finland
of levels of abuse frompeople w ho think
differently . It is particularly difficult for
those of us, like myself, w ho w rite things
that are bound to be unpopular . None of
this is new of course, but all opinion is
offered as material for
Ch--ought, not
guidelines of behavior.
You may think all of this sounds like a
w eak charity plea, alimp call for
understanding, but it seems that people' s
tendency to take adifference of opinion in
an article in apersonal manner is one of
the first mistakes people seemto make.
Would all of us prefer that the only
opinion presented in our mediatoday w as
that w hich conformed to one person' s
standard, like Orw ell ' s 1 984? -L-
ddicrous as
it may seem, I can' t he p but notice that
straying from the party line brands one as
a traitor, and though this is consistent
with all bits of life, and all fields of rock
journalism, it is particularly ironic within a
hardcore scene that prides itself on its
ability to think for itself .
Neil Cartw right( radio, z ine, vinyl, tapes) /
11 Robson St/ Mt Roskill/ Auckland 4/ New
Zealand
P aul( z ine0/ 91 Cluny Gardens/ Edinburgh/
Scotland/ EH106BW/UK
P eter Alquist( z ine)/ Floravagen 2 0C/ 7 7 3
00Fagersta/ Sw eden
Apocalypse Now ( z ine/ P arkw eg 3/ 4450
Sissach/ Sw itz erland
Shesk( label) / X- Centric R . A . T. S. / 17 West
End Rd/ Cottingham/ N Humberside/
england/ HU 16 5P L
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So now to the letter . for the most part, it
simply stated Mr. Wendell' s entitled view s
on things, but at times it strayed
needlessly into the personal . One of the
most frequent mistakes made by people is
their insistence on using ad homenum
arguements . This means that one attacks a
person rather than the view point you
disagree w ith, w hich is of course
pointless . For instance, I w as deeply
offended to see this particular quote in
Wendell' s letter : "Alexander Hammer w as
run by fat 30- year old Heavy Metaloids in
Lacoste shirts" . OK, I think it' s obvious
w hat' s offensive about such astatement,
so I w on' t explain . This quote w as used
by Wendell to enforce apoint he w as
making about Alexander Hammer but it is
totally irrelevant, promotes stereotypes ( I
thought the ideaw as to break themdow n),
and in the end, discredits his other points
because of its offensive nature.
Then Wendell tries to discredit me as w ell,
instead of simply stating his disagreement
w ith my view s . I think that before trying
to do that, one should try to insure that
he is clearly informed about the situation.
I amreferring to his revelation that I w as
"employed as aDJ for Alexander Hammer",
follow ed by the w ords "interesting, huh?"
Had he left themout, he w ould have been
asking alegitimate question that I' mabout
to answ er . But by tacking on those tw o
w ords, he clearly made an attempt to make
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me out as acrook or something. Oh my
yes, the truth has finally been revealed . I
w as indeed employed by Hammer as aDJ ,
and my fee w as $10anight for about 6
hours w ork . $1 . 66 an hour is not the type
of salary that inspires undue loyalty . And
w hy didn' t I mention that? My name as DJ
w as included in the ads for the show s,
and I w as very visible in that capacity.
But more to the point, my criticismof the
BYO w as not adefense of Alex
. Hammer,
and my status as aDJ had nothing to do
w ith w hat I w rote then or now .
Furthermore, w hat is the use of saying "at
least I' mfucking trying; w hat the fuck
have you done?" Well, I confess if 7 years
of supporting show s and buying records,
DJ ing clubs and radio for 5 years, putting
out my ow n magaz ine for 4 years, w riting
for 4 other mags, and putting up touring
bands is nothing, then I confess I have
done nothing and I' msorry . So, w hat does
this have to do w ith you disagreeing w ith
my criticism? This is just personal, an
attack on ajournalist for no reason aside
fromadifference of opinion . Other
interesting moments w ere "w ondering if I
ever listen to the lyrics" . It should be
painfully obvious fromthe record review s
in my mag, Big Takeover, that I analyz e
lyrics more than most people do.
Also, if one checks my article, one w ill see
that at no time did I say that the BYO
organiz ation
itself w as destructive, but
rather that I considered their boycott
destructive
. I listed my reasons in a
non- personal, factual manner, and I
believe I deserved the same courtesy in
being criticiz ed back
. Wendell' s lauding of
the BYO' s accomplishments are opinions he
is entitled to. In my article I advanced my
ow n view that the BYO' s lack of business
sense and cohesive organiz ation ( and I
must say in my defense that I did attend a
BYO meeting) w as adistinct problem, and
that failure to negotiate prior to radical
action w as an intolerable oversight . At the
time of the boycott, A. H. w as negotiating
w ith the club to pay themasumto shut
the bar so that all- ages could be admitted,
asumthey figured could be made up by
the added attendance. When the boycott
came fromthe new ly formed BYO, it came
w ithout any negotiation w ith A. H. ( ( as a
means of getting the all- ages show s they
w anted), and resulted in A . H
. having to
pay the club amuch higher amount to the
club because of their w eakened bargaining
position . So, in accomplishing w hat they
w anted, the BYO actually sped up the end
of the show s and cut into w hat the bands
w ere paid
. This is the w ay I see it at
least.
Enough
. It is obvious that my view point is
not necessarily Wendell' s, or that of a
good many of you . But alternative
view points are necessary and the so- called
lifeblood of everything w e value as rational
human beings
. This has been an effort to
help people realise that even the most
controversial view point should be debated
and constructively criticiz ed, instead of
irrelevant personal attacks on those w ho
hold it. We shun this sort of attitude from
others judging us ( junior high mentality)
and trying to inflict their ideas of living
on us, so alternative view points from
concerned people should alw ays be
w elcomed . Which is w hy I alw ays end this
space w ith arequest for response ( MRR or
me at 2 49 Eldridge St/ Box 14/ NY, NY
10002 ) and intelligent criticism
. But, try
to remember that in responding to
view points made public, that is not easy to
do this, and that view points themselves
are w hat should be criticiz ed
. I thank Mr.
Wendell for his response, and though I
disagreed w ith alot of it, and responded
in kind, he gave me his view point to
consider and evaluate, and thus I know he
indeed "did something" . I invite all of you
to do the same.
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last report. Now that can' t be, can it?
Band new s : J erry of P OISON IDEA moved
to SF and banding together w ith Tom, new
guitarist of just- broken- up P . L. H. Also
fromthe ashes of P . L. H. , drummer Neal is
getting together w ith the non- drummers of
GRIM REALITY to form. . . P EACE, LOV E
AND REALITY? Meanw hile, GRIM
REALITY' s drummer is in the STIFFS, a
sort of successor band to the late LOS
OLV IDADOS. ( One guesses fromthe
membership that the STIFFS should come
out like across betw een SOCIAL
DISTORTION and P ETER & TEST TUBE
BABIES, Time w ill tell).
DIE KREUZEN' s ( recently reformed,
hurray) favorite Bay Areaband, the
LIV ING ABORTIONS, is still broken up,
but guitarist P hil is maybe playing in a
reformed URBAN ASSAULT . MISTAKEN ID
has a
new drummer, Craig Bosch, and
they' ve just passed in and out of ahorror
rock phase ( good thing w e all missed it!).
M ID tried tw ice to play live on KFJ C, and
hit transmitter or pow er failures both
times . Keep w atching- this could be the
beginning of another great San J ose jinx
( remember the BLACK FLAG jinx?).
As of now , CRUCIFIX is stranded in NY,
w ith a"get themto England" benefit
scheduled this w eekend . WHIP P ING BOY
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The Institute For P ragmatic Malice has
been putting on "different" show s at the
Club Foot over the past months . Their trip
is

to

get aw ay

from

the typical
promoter/audience/performer

trip,

by
whatever meansthey can think of . This
includes passing out
lyric/propaganda/artw ork sheets by the
bands, having the bands pay expenses and
let the crow d in free, giving aw ay
oranges, popcorn, and fruit juice, show ing
slides, even putting out abunch of chairs
for people to sit in . It' s not clear to me
w hat you' d expect all this to do, or even
w hat it is that it actually does
. I' ve been
to 2 of the Club Foot show s, and they' ve
been different ( and atmospherically alot
better than most), people ( me too) are still
there to see the bands, and sort of resist
picking up the "new " things ( like they
don' t know w hat to make of slides behind
the bands). I' d say this is the most
promising bit of local scene since the Tool
& Die last summer.
Murray Bow les/MYO
KING CITY- This is akindascene report
I' mw riting fromKing City, w hich is in
Monterey County, about 2 1 hours fromSan
Francisco. It has about 6000people, 2 0of
w homare into punk . There isn' t anything
going on here yet, but my friends and I
are going to try to start some show s . We
feel w e can bring people fromMonterey
and SantaCruz areas . The tow n is full of
cow boys . Most of the punks are out of
school except me and my friends . When w e
w ere freshmen, people w ould alw ays say
things to us . We didn' t dress really
' punk' , but it w as just the fact that w e
listened to adifferent music.
I' min aband ( w ell, w e' re trying to be a
band called DISTORTED YOUTH) . We don' t
have great equipment, but w e try . I' d like
to hear fromother Californiapunks and
any bands w ho might w ant to play our
area.
P at Grindstaff/ 45065 Merritt St/ King City
CA 93930/ ( 408)385- 3869.
BACK FROM THE DEAD! ! !Back in MRR #1,
w e ran apicture of ayoung S. F. area
punk named J ohn Brenner, w ho w e
reported as "missing" . He had been sent
off to a"correctional rehabilitation school"
called the P rovo Canyon School in Utah.
His parents, w ith the help of the court
system, sent himoff there in handcuffs,
w here he w as to have served 1 year.
The main technique used there is to "take
aw ay your rights, then give themback as
privileges" . J ohn, aka Wheato, resisted the
indoctrination throughout that year,
w ouldn' t accept their banning of punk as
"poor attitude stuff that w on' t help you to
' change' . " Tow ards the end of his term,
he w as caught giving tattoos to other
kids, and w as held over at P rovo for
another 7 months . This time he played
their game, pretending to be ' changed' .
During this period, Wheato' s momgot
custody over him, and he w as able to
return home. His dad had w anted himto
stay there till he w as 18 ( he had entered
at 14) . J ohn feels many parents send their
kids off, take the easy w ay out, instead of
dealing w ith it at home.
Now that he' s back, Wheato has joined a
new band called P RIV ATE OUTRAGE w hich
also contains Ron Rich( w ho at one point
left the punk scene to join the Marines.
Fortunately for him, he "got out" and is
now back, w iser for it . ) Besides Cheryl on
drums and Bob on bass, another P rovo
' veteran' , Eric, is temporarily playing
guitar. Wheato' s momhas been w orking
hard to get himto finish high school,
w hich he also feels is important . In answ er
to the question "have you changed", he
answ ers, "No, I' mthe same old Wheato".
Did that P rovo experience do anything
good for him? "Much more bad than good.
There are alot of tough guys and psychos
there. The only good part w as I now w ant
to get my diploma. " His message for those
punks w ho find themselves being shipped
off to places like P rovo:"play their game,
pretend you' re ' rehabilitated' , then get
your freedom. "
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OUTRAGE can do so at : 44 W Bellevue/
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I hate to say it, but punk rock has

( being released by Rough Trade US), is

gotten to the point w here it is like the

one of their strongest records yet, in that

Q uincy show . No one w ill say that it really

L_t is killer rock n roll, is not necessarily

is, but it is exactly like that . I w as at a

predictable, and the content is not w impy

show at Tool & Die last night and aguy

n any_a

got smashed w ith abeer bottle right

across the head . "
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I
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The TOXICS have been overlooked, or albumcalled "Revolutionary?" Not every

aspects of this band is their contribution

band should be apolitical band

. It w ould

in forging the US underground touring

it is that they' ve been taken for

granted for all this time

. They rarely get

be horrible if all music w ere the same

. But
curcuit
. They are an important part of
p res , they haven

sold an incredible people should think about politics w hether

that, both in terms of opening it up, and
amount of records
t
yet, they aren' t

they' re playing in aband or

at the
in the spirit in w hich they' ve done it
.
considered one of the cool eclectic bands factory
. They should question . "

TOXIC REASONS have been one of the

. . . .
most dilegent of the first
w ave of hardcore
1
of the punk scene, and yet I' ve never mel
t

bands, traveling the country fromone

anyone that didn' t like themat least a

little
. They have been aband mostly out

tow n to the next . They live on the road,

of love for playing their instruments and

.

or else they stop for ashort time to

for travelling But they do have quite a

I recoup their losses before striking out
bit on their minds that seems to

et

again . There is no question about it, they

glossed over
in the muddle of guitars .
g
play everyw here and anyw here. They

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spread the w ord, know the bumps in the

- 5 - - - -

NO -
road, w atch and listen . They love it and
w ouldn' t have it any other w ay.
. innnnnnn. n,
imaginative than ever
. They are all singing
When 1 first met themthey w ere based
III
Dayton and w ere on their second tour
the w est coast
. They' d just lost the
drummer Mark P atterson in V ancouver and
I
'had recruited N O EXI Tdrummer J
.J.
P earson . Ed P ittman wassinging . Greg
S tout wasplaying bass. Joel Agne was
playing rhythm guitar
. Rob S not was
playing roadie while learning the guitar
parts, while Bruce S tuckey wasplaying
lead guitar and selling hisplasma sothat
the band could eat
. Thiswasin 1980 when
they recorded the Ghost Town EP (Joel
left the band before the single wasdone),
and they'd released their W ar H erosingle
. . . .
t'
bands are playing
. Thas divided your
nI audience by four
. As atouring band you
' We' ve seen alot happen
. J ust seeing so can' t have that
. You have to be the only
You

ayear earlier. They' d toured the country

many bands sprouting up . I think most of band

. That' s how I view suport . "

once already and frommeeting themI

the bands break up in their home tow ns

could tell that they w ere w ell seasoned

because it' s only good for so long . P eople

travelers, as w ell as complete loons

. At

get sick of seeing the same bands w eek

this time they connected w ith Risky

after w eek . The band probably gets sick

Records w ho released both their Ghost

of it too because if they don' t travel,

Tow n EP and their Independance

eventually they get disillusioned

. They get
i i nlrid quantities .

letters fromall over the country saying

different scenes are happening and they
only had 2 0people come to their last
j MI Rj j j M .Th, show. You freak out and quit. There'sno

They are now going on four years as an

money and you have to get ajob . Living

active band. Q uite admirable I' d say

.

at home, trying to keep agirlfriend, it

Musically they have been accused of being

just gets impossible. "

aDOA sound alike, and even though it is

"But even the times w hen I' ve been

true that they have the same sort of rock

starving to death, I still w ouldn' t go back

'
n roll sound, they do have their ow n ' to w orking at aK- Mart . For years I

style
. Ed P ittman had given the band an

alw ays w anted to get out of Dayton . You

I
amaz ing vocal and stage presence, but now look at the map and it' s ahuge w orld.
that he has left the band, the question for There' s all these pictures of cities . It' s
both the band and their audience has been not the same looking at pictures or

can they pull it off w ithout him? This

w atching it on TV . You learn about

. ___

Is by far the most dramatic change the

different peoples and cultures ( by

nnnam. n

band has had to live through as they have

travelling), and w e haven' t even been "But the same people come to see us all

gone through many different perutations in

I' very far. "

I the time
. t costs them$5 each time.

their history
. They seemto be doing

"I suppose if w e w anted to reach alot of That' s alot

I
for themand w e are lucky if.

, amaz ingly w ell and they don' t have any

people, shit, I' d take all the money w e' ve w e get adollar of that
. I think w e' ve got
regrets .

ever made and put up abillboard on the to go and look for some other people too.
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. I like So w e' ll play anyw here
. "
to travel, meet people, see w hat' s going "You' re never gonnaget your ideas across
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nnn' on. You hang out with people
. I hang if you play for the same people all the
around punks . I read about political ideas time
. We' ve been doing it 1l years
. The
that you w on' t read about in heavy metal DEAD KENNEDYS have done alot for the
the current line up features tw o guitars magaz ines or pop mags
. So you hang I punk scene by opening the w ays
. They

( Bruce and Rob), Tufty of ZERO BOYS

around w ith punks and you find out w hat play

different

clubs

and

different

fame on bass, and J . J . on drums .

people are thinking about . . . . about all the countries

. They make the papers and look

Musically, they are more pow erful and

stuff that' s going on w ith them.

like ' rock stars' , but they still get the

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message across to kids

. If you w ant to
now , and w ith each show the

et better
play Ghost Tow n, one of
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thei
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play for more people, you have to play

at it . They ' ve had to draw the line

more clubs
. And our music is sort of

though . . . not one of themcan sing and

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. We have to change to
attract more people
. The politics of our
m1
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the lyri

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A am
STU CKI N A RU T
Stuck
in
a town I d nevercoil home
I don' t wont to die here all alone
Rotting I n o place where you' re neverfree
I I I don' t get out I TS gonna kill ma
I count the daysasthey go by
They turn into monthst want to cry
Waiting torthe day to escape thisrut
then I ' ll
Say goodbte stick my fingersup
I won' t stay here and die- - 1wont I wont
My so.,I won' t rest and lieI t won' I iwon' t
Thistown won' imprison meI t wont I t won' t
No lockscon stop my key
No Jobsaround the rich rule town
When will the greed reign evertail Clown
Hassled by the copsforbeing myself
Rightsof freedomhave gone to hell
Progression isslow the town isold
HOWmarry timeshasthisstory been told
So it' stime to go
don' ask me how
it I make a break 0 gotta be now
1
1
1
Chorus* Punk rockerwhat' it mean to you
mean to me
I sit a resolutionnot asforasI con
see
I think it' sup to all of us
do what ig tam' sright n
:o and not to light amongst t ourselves
but become asone unite,
Jney got theirwaste They got theirguns
They ore the enemy
The governmentsand corporations
They should be the casualties
Chows
' It' s especially tough for an out- of- tow n
band . You set up ashow from2 000miles
aw ay and you show up and right next door
you' ve got the DEAD KENNEDYS on the _
same night
. And there' s some other band
playing at the Tool &e
Die, and over at the
Indian Center three out- of- tow n Reno
111
DEVOLU TI ON?

-
I see you in the streets
lighting and the like
I sthat what being punk is
A chance to be the redneck type
They got theirwaste They got theirguns
They are the enemy
and I t we don' t unite
WB will
be the casualties
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"' It' s like beating your head against aw a
That' s w hy w ere going to England now : to
sing for the people over there for a
w hile. "
BREAKTHE BANK
"We' re moving tow ards this concept in the
future, computeriz ation . Within the scope
of 10years, rich people w on' t even have
to go out of their houses
. They' ll be able
to shop and bank fromtheir house. Now
they' re making it affordable for everyone.
They w ant to computeriz e the w hole
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country . H ow doyou dothat? You gotta
get everybody touse a computer . W here's
the one place toput a computer? Right in
front of your fuckin' TV set . That'swhere
most people spend most of their goddam
life anyway . There, or in bed ."
"And right now, what about the people
whodon' t have training in computers? The
poor slob that'sbeen working for GM for
22yearsand they say, "W ell, we got a
so you' re fired"
make by playing here and playing there.

Donahue show the other night

. They w ererobot to take your place,.
And then you sit there and say "now this

all sitting there and Donahue w as asking

This guy says, "Goddam,

I' ve been
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and

them questionsand they all take turns

working and busting my ass, supporting

I 'm getting $5 a day" . That'sit. You can't
I
I
putting

each

other down,

misquoting I I
my family . W hat can I do? N othing
. All I
figures, etc . The whole time I wassitting

can doisstand on that line and when that

apartment and a job, whomake $300 a

there I wasreally frustrated . I wanted to

door

handle comes

by,

screw that
I
week, $100 a week
. I dolike it, but I
I I
reach intothe scene and smack the shit I I
motherfucker in, real fast . And I can turn
can' t have the same luxuries they have
. I out of all of them
. Yaknow ? They avoid around and have aslug off my beer
. I can
can' t have aTV . What, plug it in to my every question
. They are never specific do that all day
. That' s all I know how to
truck or something? I can' t have afuckin' about anything
. They say "w e' re gonnado.
apartment . "
"Oh, I quit. "
"No, you have to deal w ith it . The first
first transaction is business . You see, a

Were Americans and w e go out there and

lot of people can sit back at home

stop all this bad shit. " I thought as a

criticiz ing you w hile they' re w atching their

country, as aw hole, w e are the greatest

w e' re gonnadevelop aw ork programthat' s
going to help create jobs . What is he
talking, vreate jobs? Create jobs w here?
Doing w hat? Be specific . Tell me w hat you
guys are really thinking . They don' t do
it. I felt like being in the audience to yell
out "What' s the goal?" The ultimate goal of
more. All w e can do now is shout and sing

the American people? What is the one thing

I
about it
. We can' t do much constructively

that w e as aw hole w ork together to

because w e don' t have the capital
. In any

achieve? It' s nothing. We don' t w ork

revolution, if you don' t have the capital,

together to achieve anything . It' s every

t buy the supplies.
money w e w ill do stuff
. We' ll stand by
w hat w e say . We' ve talked about it
amongst ourselves . We don' t w ant abig
house or cadillac
. It w ould be challenging
to make some money and see if you stuck
by w hat you say, or if you' re just another
hypocrite w ho makes apile of dough and
"
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pressure buildsand I 'm getting old
rye lost my pride in my country
because of itswrath itstyranny
Big businessrulesthe way
me little man doesn' tget hissay
A life orcrime to pay my bills
rent so high cut out the hills
!Society' sready with a plastic mold
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' make me pay for your S tar W arsplan
Don 't tit me in with your middle doss
tarmy wageskill my ass
Break the bank to yourkneesU ncle Sam
!to yourkneesU ncle Sam
to yourkneesU ncle Sam
to yourkneesU ncle Sam

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"You have to fuckin' deal w ith the
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business. W e want toplay music, but you
can't just dothat
. I t'syour responsibility
if you want toget somewhere, get
something done . W e're the most responsible
we've been in the last four years, now
that we have Tufty in the band
. W e didn't
want tohave todeal with that aspect of
the band . W e wanted tobe beer drinking
from town totown and play music . You
can't dothat
. W e've tried toget other
people todothe businessbut it doesn't
work . You gotta say, "H ey, if we
' re gonna
do, it, you gotta doit and doit
yourself' ."
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and we've found out how much we're gonna
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I C rathernot pay into Ronnie' sbank' '
iI d rathermake a withdrawal with o food .
stomp

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n o . s and very in vogue

sing politics
b
right
and
now . .
. nd w e' re not t the only band
running around singing "I don' t w annabe
no w ar hero" either . "
"But shit, look at the w ay they do the
new s . It' s alw ays acrisis
. You look
I!"
through the paper and w hen w e sa
something about the Soviet Union they put
it

in

big

block

letters

"SOV IETS
ATTACK" .

And then it' s "AMERICA

DEFENDS"
. It' s all fucking manipulation . "
11
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"J esse J ackson and the rest of the
Democrats that are running w ere on the
I I I I UJ
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pave you the fucking right

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to messaround with my I sle
W
I ' m
ho
not goa pawn in yourgame
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Foutsin th e sear you . !'
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How can sou soy that you agree
with stupid lowsthat strangle me
try and rule with a threatening gun
but man' srule must be hisown.
I Satisfaction will be with me
push the button well all be tree
I ' ll finally rest when yoursoul isburned
DeattYsyouranswerthe truth Me learned i
I wasruled but wasreally free
ignoringyou and confidinginme
Cause theresa though I d been aware
When depth come 1ulq . somewhere
develop thiss programthat' s gonnadevelop II
"Americahas got to change alot . It' s got
this that' ll maybe do this . " There is no

to become more socialistic and start

long termgoal . I used to believe all this

changing . P eople don' t need to have so

I don'
thing of "I w ant to play your club", that shit they tell me
. "We' re the good guys
. much . They should share more. t
know how it can be forced onto people I .
just can' t understand w hy people don' t
w ant to . "

I = =I I S E =I n
I O W O M =I N EI S I M MI
TV set, ya know ? They're sitting there

technological country working towardsan

"w
with
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their
they
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don'
rlfri
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end mean n something, w hat they saying ultimate goal
. And as it turns out, it' s
IIIIIIIIIIIIII
t

say
. We II just abunch of fuckin' bureaucrats w ho
have to pay our electric bill too and w e

just w ant agoddamjob like the guy on the

have to make money . " Well, they' ve
al

street . And I thought because J esse

I
ready got what we basically want . All I I
Jackson wasnew tothe political scene he'd
we're trying tosay isthat we want todohave something great tosay
. H e just
struck me asa tricky speaker whodid the
that you're in
. H ave our own place every same thing aseverybody else . H e said
night ."
"I' mtired of being on the outside. "
N E =I I I = MI W I EN
. 111I El N O
We don' t make any money at this point.
But if w e can get money
; if the band
becomes sucessful, w e' ll be able to do l
I
time for that shit . They (politicians) can't
even get together todecide who'sgonna
be the chairman of the next subcommittee
todecide what should be done with the
last subcommittee that wasformed 5 years
ago. There'ssomuch bureaucracy in
there, it'shorseshit
. "
I
you can'

Once w e get

man for himself

. It' s like, I don' t have
NO P ITY
Big businessbastards, don' t look down on
mebecause of yourwealth, no pity
Theres
hungerin the streetsits
all around
youthey live in bogs.
' They got nothin' to do
yourpracticed fines, yourpainted smilesit' s
alwaysI nssame
All yourmoney and style but don' t expect
met to shine yournew corporate
shoes
The
people of AmericaI tstime bhearthe
truth
So nowyou've built your machines to take
my place make me less of aman,
Doesit put a shine an your
face tosee me
I crawl through the streetsand
Dig in the mudI 'mjust some poorwhite
trash and someone gave me a gun
So you big businessbustards, don' t kook
down on me because of yourwealth.
No pity. did you see me in the alley comity
up behind you
The streetsof Americodo they frighten you
' There' sno way out
Burn it down
11
11
11
11
w hat w e' re into and be in the same boat
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SACRAMENTO Yes! It finally happenned
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due to internal
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MANIFEST DESTINY- Another North County
band that has been around for aw hile,
but haven' t played recently
. They have a
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Mystic cassette sampler ( slow est track from
the EP 1.
P ERSONAL CONFLICT- Have been long- term-
residents here. They have agreat original
style w hich is alittle bit slow er and
musical . Lately they' ve become really
serious about themselves and are planning
to release alive tape, then some vinyl,
and maybe tour after that . For more info
w rite: 412 2 Wilson Ave/ San Diego CA
92 109. Include SASE and 50C for stickers.
BATTALION OF SAINTS- I' msorry to say
that the San Diego fab four do not play'
here every w eekend like some people
think . They usually only play w ith
out- of- tow n acts . Their new LP , Second
Coming, should be fairly soon, after many
complications
. The cover art again is done
by talented Marc Rude, and this should be
Show s are very scarce dow n here because
of the lack of people able to put one on.
But hopefully show s w ill start becoming a
"thing" at the Backdoor, ahall on the
S . D. S. U. campus . As far as z ines go,
there' s Bent Edge ( formerly Labotomy, c/o
P aul Isaacs/ P . O. Box 697 / Rancho Santa
Fe, CA 92 067 ). Leading Edge, my z ine,
w ill be out soon w ith another issue ( see
address at end) . Mental Disorder w ill no
longer be alive due to Robert P arker
moving to L. A . , and Be My Friend might
start up again w ith anew staff.
Bad Compilation Tapes is an outfit based
here w hich puts out high quality comp
cassettes . Interested parties should w rite
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To conclude this report, w e w ould like to
express our feelings on some bad labels
that San Diego has been pegged dow n w ith
for several years . For one, S. D. is not a
tow n of "Slow Death", but rather one of a
slow , but steady, life
. With people' s unity
and cooperation, the S. D. scene can be as
good as it used to be. Secondly, S. D. is
not atow n of violence
. I don' t know how
this reputation got started, but in no w ay
is it true. Sure San Diego has its share of
. assholes, but they don' t plague the scene
as some tend to think . Anyw ay, that' s it
for now . See you later and stay positive.
For more info concerning the S. D
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Cam. Chirimolla/ San Diego CA 92 131/
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comp . . . P UBLIC ENEMY are energetic,
metalish unk . Hot! Hot! Hot! Singer
TUCSON-
Clubs : Ninos- most hardcores hate this
place. It is carpeted and is asteakhouse,
but since the Backstage burned dow n, it' s
been the place for many underground
show s . Dangerz one is a w ay underground
all- ages club that has some show s, but not
enough . Terry & Zekes is ajust- expanded
neighborhoos bar that w ants to cater to
local bands.
Radio : KXCI and KLP X both play hardcore
andunderground stuff.
P ublications : New sreel is alocal and J
internationally oriented mag that' s been of
great help to the Tucson scene.
Labels : Iconoclast, my label, is still going
un ortunately, long w aits from
distributors for money and ageneral lack
of money prevents me fromexpanding).
How ever, the label has released over 15
titles, including the latest release, YARD
TRAUMA 45.
Bands
: U. P
. S. ( Useless P ieces of Shit).
aY rad HC faster than fuck . You can see
U. P . S. graffiti all over tow n . I hope they
play out more. Tighter than tight!
Includes ex- CORP ORATE WHORES and
ex- CIV IL

DEATH.

Tape

out
soon . . . CONFLICT; you' ve read about
them. Getting new bass player and gigs
out- of- tow n . Great HC group w ith damaged
metal guitar and damned 000d lyrics . Their
Steve skates off w alls w hile performing ( or
vice versa). Mike on guitar is w ay hot and
has cool hair . The other guys keep it
under control ( or out of
control). .
. HECKLERS are hot and w ay
country/thrash/60' s punk/blues guitarist
Al rips it up, and his fingers too . Great
funny songs about life in the mediocre
Southw est

almost

makes living

here
w orthw hile. . . Breakups

include:

ROTTE
KAP ELLE,

SELDOMS,

CLEAN

DOG,
SWAMIS, BIBLE P ARTY, CIV IL DEATH.
That' s it for now . Anyone interested in
Iconoclast' s V alley Fever or Tow n Without
P ity comp cassettes that document Tucson
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LAS V EGAS- Greetings fromLost Wages.
Hopefully, this scene report w ill help get
V egas some of the recognition it deserves
and is starting to get.
Local bands : A. W. O. L. , like alot of V egas
bands, are back fromthe grave, and
everyone is glad to have themback . They
play he /metal, and their singer, Asshole
Andy, is alunatic . . . ARMISTICE is areal
young band w ho' ve only played tw ice.
They are more interested in politics than
most V egas bands . . . F. O. D. I don' t know
much about, as they' ve yet to
debut . . . P ERSONAL REGRETS are another
The P ositive Yoth Alliance has been
putting on show s at the American Legion
Hall in Norman . The P YA is a
non- organiz ation made up of everyone w ho I
cares enough to contact bands, help w ork
the door, clean up, etc . The show s are
all- ages and never more than 3- 4 $.
Norman' s NO DIRECTION are temporarily
inactive, as their guitarist is living in
Tulsatemporarily . Bill fron N. D. is
w orking on anew band called BROWN 2 5 . I
Another cool new band fromNorman is
DIET OF WORMS. They have agood
I
cassette out for $2 from1510Silver Creek/
Norman OK 7 1069. N. O. T. A w ill be on a
F I
compilation coming out of Boulder, as w ell
as the new MRR international comp . I
There' s anew band fromTulsacalled ON
EDGE, and anew club there, Gestalt
Studios
. Touring bands call ( 405)32 1- 8349 I
or ( 405)364- 62 55 for Norman . For Tulsa
call ( 918)7 49- 1454 .

Blake
be released is aNevadacompilation
featuring : J ACKSHIT, REMAINS, R
. Z. M. ,
SUBTERFUGE, 7 SECONDS, URBAN
ASSAULT, and 2 Carson City bands no
one seems to know the names of . Also,
R . Z. M
. plans to release a45 ans
SUBTERFUGE is releasing an EP in
association w ith 7 SECONDS.
There are gigs held practically every
w eekend now , w ith bands fromall over the
country stopping through . For booking
info, call Guy at ( 7 02 ) 382 - 9181.
We currently have 2 z ines, Civil
Disobedience and No Dice
. Copies of C. D.
are $1 fromP oor Taste P roductions/ P
. O.
Box 7 0512 / L. V . , NV 8417 0. Copies of No
Dice are 7 54 fromRobert J oseph/ 7 317 Alta
Dr/ L. V . , NV 8912 8
. For more info, w rite
to me, Darran Wells/ 1300Rosanna/ L
. V . ,
NV 84117
. I' mstarting afanz ine and w ould
appreciate anything sent.
S EVEN S O N GS
young band . They' ve played 2 disasterous
sets, but are quickly developing into a
quality band . . . INERTIA SQ UAD used to be
abunch of guys w ho hung around and
skated . Rumors have it that they' ll be
playing in the near future. . . REMAINS are
led by Guy Smiley, w ho puts on most all
of the show s . They play hardcore w ith a
semi- surf edge. . . R. Z. M
. has built a
reputation for itself by constantly gigging.
They play HC reminiscient of
DISCHARGE. . . SELF ABUSE used to be the
most prominent band here
. They recently
got back together again . For aw hile they
seemed headed for bigger things . It w ould
be nice if they could return to their
original status . .
. SUBTERFUGE are possibly
L. V . ' s best band . They play older style
British punk ( the singer is British). I
think - you' ll be hearing more fromthese
guys.
Las V egas has asampler cassette, V iva
Las
V egas, for $5 fromMarky/ 1600
Rochelle #66/ Las V egas NV 84104
. Soon to
trr
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DIET OF WORMS
UN C LE
S C AM
AUSTIN- Austin punks are hitting the
streets
; banging c- doors, looking for
gigs
. All summer and fall w e played at
Nightlife New Wave Club, but they' ve
closed . It' s scratch and claw time, time to
w eed out the merely curious, time for the
true hardcore to dig in and create. Should
be interesting.
New s : The OFFENDERS leave for their
Californiatour, w ith subsequent tours
planned for the East and Midw est in the
spring, co- inciding w ith the release of
their LP , We Must Rebel, and single, I
Hate Myself
. I' mexcited because now the
nation w ill get to hear and see w hat great
musicians these guys really are
. No
gimmicks, no theatrics, just loud and fast
w ith to- the- point lyrics . .
. Other local
bands are the J EFFERSON' S( w ith ex- DICKS
Glen on guitar, and Buxf on vocals),
BLITZHACKER, BANG GANG, P HAW!
( ex- NO BLOW J OB NO BACKSTAGE
P ASS), NOT FOR SALE, SEX BOMB
BABY, and DAV Y J ONES AND THE
HIP P IES. . . MARCHING P LAGUE has been
dormant lately, after asiz z ling summer of
opening sets, and BUTTHOLE SURFERS
are on tour w ith the DK' S
. I' mglad the
rest of the country is getting the chance
to see Gibby in his underpants and duct
tape
. . . BIG

BOYS are back froma

successful summer tour , and play ahuge
show about once amonth . . . MEATJ OY did a'
great show recently w ith Michigan' s avant- '
noise

STRANGE

FRUIT

( that' s

a:
compliment), and neo- core MYSTERY
DATES continue to blow me aw ay w ith'
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vocalist Frank . Speaking of 2 guitars,
Harry ( ex- P AGANS) is now playing w ith
BANG GANG and has livened up their
sound considerably . . . The long- aw aited
Texas Hardcore Compilation LP should, yes
SHOULD, be out soon, featuring many of
the bands mentioned above.
Craig U/ 1009 Elm/ Austin TX 7 87 03
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alw ays w ondering w here the fuck it' s al
gonnabegin, the BUTTHOLE SURFERS
seemto think the stuff betw een their toes
is something more than ahighw ay, more
than aseaturtle, more than scabs w hich
block their view
. Could it be arevelation?
No, probably not, but maybe just maybe
the stuff they leave behind could smell up
the w hole w orld and make God roll dow n
his w indow and that little fly called
Dumbass could get out of the car
. NO no!
They' ll never die
. They' ll never live
. The
bread they eat comes fromadifferent
store and their scars turn into open sores
as the accidents they had reoccur w ith
and
startling regularity
. Bathing in the clay
refuse of athousand blackened bananas, ,
the fruits of their labor are the grapes of
w rath, and the monkeys they w alk to the
seadon' t know how to sw im
. Could it be
the delicate thread of sanity itself has
w oven round the penis of malcontent like a
vice crushing the hand of anaked judge,
or is it just adog hovering like aschool
teacher in abad dreampoised above fields
of raz orblade studded sunflow ers, abunch
of children w ith brain tumors the siz e of
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start to happen.
MRR
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solve all
your
problems.
P AUL
: It' s aproblemw hen s
urgery w on' t
drag out all the pain.
MRR
: Why did you guys decide to tour
during the Christmas holidays?
BILL
: We like to follow the circus.
T know s
HERRESSA
: Shut up Bill
. Everyone
logs don' t roll uphill
.
TTfTr I
They look like shit
s gonnaring tit
. They smell like hell!

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,
or you could dismiss it as just
dumbasses, but it cannot be denied these
BUTT- w eilding scavengers of the inner
have more than just afew
problems
nder
their w igs
. It is w ith total
up u
after
amaz emen
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embarrassi
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song
Iw ith e
theoa
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and agility of asmall retarded child, and
the rew ards they receive are brow n and
spread betw een
. You w on' t find these
assholes w asting time around the potty;
it' s one hand dow n w hile the other hand
hits the ground for these sons of bitches
eyed clow ns
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your mother
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s cleavage, their dialogue is
that of a
spastic jackal hurling a
and
nd
Christ
as he devours the body
child
. Blessed not w ith the courage of
five, but w ith the smell of ten, their
3- ring brow n circus of sick fits has caused
' chil
dren to miss school, blood to appear
ear in
' your stockings, and agrow ing
agland that
irregularity among dogs.
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the
di
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your
penis holes? BILL
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KING
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f GIBBY
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q
uestion.
P AUL
: 9/32 .
THERRESSA
: About an inch.
MRR
: Mmmm, nice and tight.
THERRESSA
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T
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.
011111 . 01
MRR : So Kin

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seee
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( in press release) that you have apieceof
l
corn stuck in your left ear
. Er. .
. w hat' s
the story?
KING
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w as
bored, as.
kings tend to be, and some of the corn I ,
had eaten for dinner remained on aplate.
In avery innocent gesture, I stuck a~
piece in my ear w here it has remained
'
deeply lodged and unmoving for about
three years now
. It' s sort of like hearing
the w orld through corn- shrouded ears.
MRR
: That' s w ild and you are fromOhio?
KING
: Yes, and I w as born and raised in
Ft
. Worth, Texas.
MRR
: You guys really go w ild w hen you
play live gigs.
EV ERYBODY:
Thanx . .
. w ow . .
. cool . .
. bitchin
. MRR
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ha
. .
. and I just w anted to ask you guys'
.
w here you got off to acting like hardcore
nasal- thinner and the diseased mustangs
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decade, these SURFERS ask not w hat they
can do for their country, but just exactly
w hat their country has stuck up their
butts
. Some say aimlow and you w ill reach
your goal
. They say, Hell No!, aimso low
you w ill piss on your shoes
. Not only do
they bite the hand that feeds them, they
try to make it jack ' emoff
. These jerks
know the difference betw een mayonaise and
miracle w hip and aren
' t unw illing to part
the curtain and scrape the old bag over
the nails
. Not too long ago you couldn' t
buy agood scream
. Those days are back,
and nuns are doing backflips in
convenience stores w henever these corn
floatin cow beaters plop into tow n
. Not to
ignore the crust around the edges, w ith
these gals you get the pathw ay of flakes,
aw iff of flyheads, and the gassy escape
of death itself fromthe bow els of human
embarrassment
. Bugs stand in line as
monkeys hump and grind
. Not just another
case of the deaf leading the blind
. So go
out and cornit . . .
. the brow n crime!
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MRR
: So w hat are your favorite bands?
EV ERYBODY
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HENRY BABBLE WIGS,
MRR
: Wow , I thought for sure you guys
could handle yourselves in acrow d full of
nut and berry gatherers
.
THERRESSA
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bothered us and the more w e thought
about it the more w e had to start w earing
leg and armbraces
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any of those bead- pulling bands fromjust
north of Houston?
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and bass players for the ANTIBODIES,
teaming up w ith the ex- singer of 6 FEET c
UNDER . This could be real good
. Also new
( I

think)

is a

5- w oman band called

SACRIFICIAL V IRGINS
. I heven 'tseen
themyet, butwhatI heardon theradio I
really liked. If I'mnotmistaken, they
havea sing lewith themon onesideand
theever- dreadedTOOTHPA STE on the
other.
There hasn' t been too many show s lately.
None at the all- ages hall for aw hile,
w hich is too bad since those show s are
usually agas, w ithout fights or vandalism.
Last Rites fanz ine is now booking all- ages
matinee show s . Interested bands should
contact Sean Duffy
; 17 17 Sunnyside Beach
Dr/ McHenry IL/ 60050. That' s the address
for the z ine too, w hich costs 51 . 50, and
is probably the best in Chicago
. No filler.
Well, that' s all the new s fromout here,
except the bullshit social clique, "old
punk" vs "new punk" stuff . Then again,
there' s nothing much new about that, is
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P ITTSBURGH, P A.
Dear MRR,
I w ant this shit set straight . Mr Tom
Auto and Mr Adolph Chancre ( P ittsburgh
Scene report MRR #10) are not even from
P ittsburgh . They are from, as stated,
Beaver Falls . Why don' t they come out of
the w oods, through the tunnels, and over
the bridge and do more than observe!
Come to the big city!
We in N. S. F. w ere happy to be called
"raw " ; isn' t that w hat it' s all about? No
one in the band is
a
naz i or neutered for
that matter . But w e are skate freaks!
Have Tomor Adolph even stepped on a
board in their life? So, how can you
judge?
I w ill agree the FIV E are great, but
w hy are they still in P ittsburgh for creeps
like you? You know so much about the
scene, w ell then w hat really happened to
the guys in REAL ENEMY? P LASTIC BTLS?
Which ones? I think they' d like to know
themselves! How about amention of
P ROTOTYP E, the RAV E UP S, SOCIETY' S
V ICTIM, HITLER' S SEX LIFE, KITSCH,
the SHUNTS, ACTUAL SIZE, THIN WHITE
LINE, LEARN TO DRIV E, or the 2 00Club
CINCINNATI- Fred Ziffel, alive and w ell,
lives in Cincinnati
. I amhis son . P ahas
been riled up lately on acount of that I
been a- goin' dow n to see hardcore show s
and w astin' my money from4- H buyin'
punk records
. Seriously, Cincinnati, the
city that is open 6 hours aday, has a
hardcore scene, and has had one for a
w hile.
I w on' t w aste much time on the past.
Mostly Midw estern bands played here, the
best being TOXIC REASONS. Around Dec.
of ' 82 , acouple of friends and I founded
Cincy' s first HC z ine, Suburban
Muckraker
. The scene really grew betw een
' 82 and ' 83, and w e started to get most of
the major touring punk bands . They
played at the J ockey Club in New port,
Kentucky, w hich is w here people in
Cincinnati go to really live at . It w as a
big casino in the ' 50s, w here J erry Lee
Lew is and Chuck Berry played
. The old
place used to be quite plush, but it is
pretty decadent now adays . It' s large, w ith
agreat sound system.
Right now , the only local "HC" bands
show ing their faces around are: SS- 2 0,
w hose attitude used to be "okay, here' s
our hardcore song, OK?" Now they sound
exactly like the MISFITS, and singer
J ughead helps put together show s alot.
Of the new bands, SLUGGO is the best.
Of course my opinion is biased, because
I' mfriends w ith them. They do afast,
clean set, and are all minors . Their
independent EP is out now . MUSICAL
SUICIDE are fairly new , formed by
ex- REP ELLENT J ackie
. They have a
strange sound, and are going through
personnel changes . Another band,
INV ISIBLE FRIEND, also on the younger
level, have definite "melodical themes".
There are more bands forming all the time,
so expect new names.
There' s aw eekly HC show on public radio
station WAIF. It' s been around for quite
some time and has given HC alot of
exposure here
. It w as started and is run
TH E FI VE

for that matter! All I can say is if you' re i

going to w rite about something, at least
know w hat you' re talking about . There is
0
life outside of Hell House
. Thank you, the
N . S. F. band.
P
. S. N. S. F. 5- song cassette or REAL
ENEMY cassette info
: 343 Dow ning St/
P ittsburgh P A 152 19
. For bookings in
P ittsburgh, call J ohn ( 412 )681- 5097 or Mike
0
( 412 )687 - 197 8.
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by H andsome C lem C arpenter . Latley, the
Asshole of the Airwaves, the H ockey
P unk, hasassaulted the show with his
loud mouth and noone can stop him.
Fish is the current fanz ine here, and is
run by SLUGGO' s guitarist, Chris
. It
comes out sporadically because Chris isn' t
old enough to w ork and doesn' t have much
money ( and neither do I
. SubCin is
another new sletter w hich pays attention to
the alternative/HC scene.
There is one bad detour I w ould like all
bands fromeveryw here that might play
here to recogniz e before they find
themselves at adead end . It' s ahall called
Bogart' s . The manager threatened to break
afriend' s and my legs for stage divinglt
w as at a"punk" show too. It' s the jocko
place to hang out and enjoy Miller Time at.
They don' t care about fans, alternative
music, or anything except money.
Inclosing, I w ould like to add that
everyone in Cincinnati w ho listens to HC
has askinhead, is amember of the Klan,
and afollow er of Krishna. We like to beat
up fags, pinkos, mods, and each other if
w e get mad enough . I rule themall, and I
don' t like you much . Arnold Ziffel .
P . S. Here' s some w ays
to contact the high
life in our fair city . Bands, call Bill for.
the J ockey Club at ( 513)441- 57 2 4. For
bookings or advice, call SLUGGO at
( 513)32 1- 9031
. Make sure to w rite to Fish
at : 2 P easenhall Lane/ Cincinnati OH
452 08 .
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photo by J ohn Ruz sa
KENTUCKY
It' s been aw hole year since the last KY
scene report
. A lot' s been going on,
bandw ise
. In Lexington, w e' ve got one
all- ages place to play, the P ralltow n Cafe.
It' s agreat place, usually w ell- packed w ith
punks and the curious . We' ve got atight
bunch of skaters w ho have an organiz ation
P a=
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called T- 13 .

We organiz e show s at
- P llth raow n w en w e can, and have 3 bands
in T- 13 : MINISTRY OF TRUTH, areal hot
new band ; the SLUMLORDS, w ho have
been around for aw hile and are
entertaining as hell ; and my band
EXECUTED AND FORGOTTEN . The other
Lexington

bands

are:

ACTIV E
INGREDIENTS and V ALE OF TEARS
. Then
there' s MALIGNANT GROWTH from
Louisville, w ho are totally kickass and
aw esome . Also fromLouisville are the
WHITE RASTAS.
If you w ant to come here and play, contact
J oe Coleman ( 606)2 7 7 - 7 67 8, or w rite me,
Chris Wireman/ Ct 2 Sellersmill/ V ersailles
KY 40383 or call 606 87 3- 52 15
.

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S
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First of all, C. I . A and REFLEX FROM
P AIN have merged into one band . The
tentative name is : 7 6% UNCERTAIN.
Comprised of Kenny and Bones of C. I . A. - 0
and Todd, Bill and Dave of REFLEX
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They' ve played 2 impressive show s, are \_l
playing material fromboth bands, and may . ,
be recording soon ( contact at ( 2 03)37 1-
5057 ) . LOST GENERATION are playing out
again, and have released atape produced
by HR of the BAD BRAINS. They' re
mixing dow n the LP they recorded too.
V ATICAN COMMANDOS have released their
2 nd EP . CHRONIC DISORDER came and
shhok up Anthrax after their EP came out.
Great live! V IOLENT CHILDREN have
pressed their tape, so look on your local
record store shelves soon.
Clubw ise, Anthrax is doing w ell, and
bookings can be had fromBrian at
( 2 03)348- 7 983 . Up in New haven, aclub
called the Grotto has alarger space, but
smaller & artsier crow d . It' s abar and
2 0- and- over. Contact Craig Bell at
( 2 03)562 - 02 31 . During the midw eek, it' s
possible to get agig at abar frequented
by J oey of LOST GEN. It w on' t be the
best paying show around, but it w ill give
touring bands aplace to play on
hard- to- fill

w eeknights .

Call

J oe
at : ( 2 03)367 - 2 542 .
New bands : just one this month- SEIZURE,
w hich claims 2 local characters, "Spaz "
J eff Coleman and J ohn "Sex Bomb" Coletti.
they' re

fun

to

w atch .

Until

next
time. . . J eff

R/

1800 Huntington Tpk/

Trumbull CT/ 06611 . . ( 2 03)37 5- 91430.
Lots of bands have taken to the studios.
DEATH WISH is the best new band, and
though they ' ve not played out yet, have
released aradio tape w ith 3 songs, tw o of
w hich are brilliant . CANCEROUS GROWTH
have put out atape, Had Enough
. Their
earlier ones w eren' t that good, but this is
excellent . SEIGE and XYZhave tapes to
local stations as w ell.
Speaking of w hich, Boston radio now has 3
hardcore show s : WBZC, "The Straight
Ahead Show " ; WERS, "Faster Than You";
and WMBR, "Unsafe At Any Speed" . So,
out of- tow n bands, get your tapes/vinyl to
these stations for serious airplay . If you
send themto the address below , I' ll make
sure they get to the proper DJ s . Music
sent to the general addresses seems to get
lost in the shuffle. ( Curtis/ 84 Oak St/
Weston MA/ 02 193).
One other band w ith aradio tape out is
TERMINALLY ILL, w ho w ere responsible
for setting up an all- ages show w hich w as
the best w e' ve seen in aw hile: an
all- Boston show featuring DYS, FU' S,
J ERRY' S KIDS, P OST MORTEM, and
TERMINALLY ILL . The hall w as in Malden,
2 0minutes outside of Boston, w ith no
decent public transportation and ahuge
snow stormoutside and amajor show the
next day ( CH3 and KRAUT) . Despite all
this, the hall w as packed to 2 X the
capacity . Hats off to the people of Boston
S P AZ(S EI ZURE)
w ho came out for this show that w as
completely run by kids!
NYC w as recently treated to aBoston
invasion . During the day at CBGB' s, the
F. U. ' S, J ERRY' S KIDS, and F. A . ' S ( fuck
band, w ho had to be escorted out by their
bodyguards because they so offended the
NY crow d) . F. U. "s set w as cut short ; too
bad, because they' ve got 12 new songs.
J ERRY' S KIDS w ere on apar w ith the
w orld' s finest, and got an incredible
response.
A few hours later, DYS and SSD played at
the Rock Hotel . DYS, w ho play NY as
frequently as Boston, have 6 new songs
w hich are far better than anything on
their LP . SSD premie- ed all their new
songs, and did acover of "I' m18", w ith
Springadecked out like ALICE COOP ER . It
w as rock & roll at its finest . Still in the
w orks, SSD' s 3rd record, "How We
Rock . . " Speaking of w hich, I had afirst
listen to the rough mixes, and never have
I had such an insidious blast of fulfillment
cross my eardrums ( sorry P ushead).
P ROLETARIAT are finishing up their
second record, untitled as yet . Both
their' s and SSD' s should be out by
summer . One record that should be out
before that is the GANGGREEN 7 '
. I' mnot
kidding. Before Chris Doherty w ent to
J ERRY' S KIDS, they recorded 2 songs at
el*
Starr
for
Radiobeat ( maybe the best they' ve ever
done), w hich have been rediscovered, and
w ill be out on Tang Records.
One record that w ill be out by the time
you read this is acompilation, Bands That
Could Be God : 17 songs, 9 bands . Most
interesting to MRR readers w ill be: DEEP
WOUND, OUTP ATIENTS, SORRY, and
MOV ING TARGETS. DEEP WOUND have 2
new cuts not on their EP . SORRY are at
Radiobeat now w orking on a12 ", and the
OUTP ATIENTS should have their ow n
record out soon.
The last 2 bands, along w ith
P ROLETARIAT, recently played at Chet' s
Last Call, atiny local club w hich has had
some excellent gigs in the last few months.
V ITAMIN laed their final 1 w ith the
GROINOIDS ( w ho haven' t played out in
years). Chet' s seems to be the best place
to play now ; not all- ages, but the bands
get paid and Chet is honest and cool.
Also, J ulie Farman is booking the Rat
again, thank God . Big talk here is of an
all- ages V OID/DYS/SSD show . We' ll see.
Curtis, fromBoston
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ANGIE AND SHELLEE- BARELY HUMAN So, you' re in San Francisco and thinking
about getting atattoo? You' re either smart
or lucky because S. F. is the #1 tattoo
tow n, attracting many great artists from
all across the U. S. I came fromNew
Orleans originally, only to find my favorite
tattoo artist w orking at Goldfield' s Tattoo
Studio on Broadw ay.
The artists here w ill do just about any
picture you bring in . I' msure you noticed
the rash of FUCK- UP S skull tattoos.
Broadw ay Bill also offers an assortment of
punk- oriented art, w orking at Dean' s
tattoo Studio up the street fromthe On
Broadw ay . He' s got some great tattoo art
that covers his entire chest, including his
armpits . He' s real easy to get along w ith,
as is everybody there. I' ve never seen
bad w ork come out of either studio, and
they' re reasonably priced if you don' t have
extravagent taste.
Henry Goldfield has hired the choice
artists, w ho all seemto enjoy meeting
interesting people. I' ve w atched Greg
Irons do tattoos, and if you have aw eird
picture, he' s the one to reproduce it . He
did acouple of pieces on Tim,
CONDEMNED TO DEATH' s guitarist- - the
Bride of Frankenstein and amulti- colored
flying pteradactile. Greg also w orked on
Shellee, w ho convinced himto do abig
' gash' in her arm, w ith leopard spots
show ing through
. Most local parlors w ill do
just about any design . I don' t suggest
getting w ork off the w all in aparlor that
w on' t do original art, because many people
already got stuck w ith those old designs.
Sometimes though, like music, the old
standards are still the best.
mentioned only these 2 parlors because
they' re the ones you' ll feel most
comfortable in . If you' re asailor, you
might try others
. Looking in the yellow
pages, the biggest ad is for Lyle Tuttle,
another know ledgable veteran, w ho has
compiled atattoo museumin the building
adjacent to his shop . They seema little
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Rough Trade) got his full- length body
tattoo. If you run into him, he' ll be glad
to show you it . Mission Lights on Army St
boasts aBachelors and Masters degree
fromthe S. F. Art Institute. Sometimes
though, the best art comes right off the
w alls of little out- of- the- w ay places, or
fromartists w ho don' t have shops . When
you don' t have alot of cash, you can
usually w ork out
a
deal w ith amateur
artists . I' mnot sure how hygienic these
machines and needles w ill be. You w ouldn' t
w ant to have to explain to momand dad
that you got serumhepatitis fromgetting a
tattoo.
Here are afew hints . Watch out for tattoo
errors . Examples like Denz Havoc' s P urge
of the P unks or Eddie ( C2 D) w ith his
"Condemed" to Death grimreaper . You' re
the one w ho' s responsible for the spelling.
Also, alw ays w atch w hile they w ork . You
should feel comfortable questioning the
artist, because its going on you forever.
Also, search out the tattoos you like by
meeting the people w ith themw ho w ant to
show them. If you' re fromthe Bay Area
you' ve probably seemSammy' s ( FANG)
Spiderman on his chest . The FUCK- UP S all
have skulls fromBroadw ay Bill . P retty
soon you' ll be able to see the Bay Area' s
new addition, P OISON IDEA, fronted by
J erry A w ith his seductive "mom" tattoo.
Mark Dagger has some real art too.
I like lots of homemade stuff too. Frenchy,
our NY skinhead in S. F. , got alot of his
artw ork fromnone other than your humble
author . I' ve done enough tats in S. F. to
know there' s not much money invested in
homemade ones . If you can afford it, it' s
cooler to go to aparlor. But just
remember, enjoy it now because in 2 0
years you' ll be so sick of people telling

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Haven' t done a
report in aw s- so
f this stuff is abit dated
. . . .
URBAN WASTE have broken up . Guitarist
ohnny Waste and drummer J ohn Dancy are
now in MAJ OR CONFLICT w hich features
Billy, the first lead singer of URBAN
ASTE. CFA are back fromtheir w est
oast visit. GILLIGANS REV ENGE have
broken up . HEART ATTACK w ill release a
4 song 12 inch featuring "Wheels Over
Indian Trails" on Rat Cage Records . The
second Big City Compilation is out , called
"Nice and Loud" and it features lots of
grooving Connecticut and of course, N
. Y.
hardcore bands
. J avi' s 6th issue is out
and he seems to be pissed by lack of
support, so w hy don' t you send 1$ to J ohn
Souvaoji 2 32 9 V ance St . ,Bronx N
. Y . 10469.
AGNOSTIC FRONT have another lineup
change, this one supposedly their BEST!
And talking about . . . . w hy dont you send a
S . A. S. E to Angry, Young.
, P roud
Skinheads for issue 1#
. To say it' s N. Y. ' s
best skinhead fanz ine w ould be alie; it' s
the

w orlds

best! ! !

Find

out

for
yourself- just w rite to A . Y. P . S. / BOX 334/
5 University P I/ NY 10003
. Also, keep
your ears open
for a compilation cassette
featuring EV EN Worse, INSANITY
DEFENSE, BAG P EOP LE, and aw hole host
of other bands
Included on the tape
w ill be RAT AT RAT R, w ho have agreat
3 song demo tape. The song "P lague" is
my personal ravin' fave
. The band is
unfortunately out of commission, as their
bassist is in the hospital
. SONIC YOUTH
w hose albumConfusion Is Next has come
out as agerman import as Kill Your Idols.
It features 3 new songs and akiller live
version of "Shaking Hell" . Another band
that w ill be on the compilation is
P ORCELAIN GOD, w ho are truly God.
Their demo "Your Insane" is available for
amere 2 $ J ust w rite to Billy Syndrome, 2 3
Hollis Lane, East Islip,N. Y
. 117 30.
Clubw ise- CBGB' s still has Saturday
matinee' s
. How ever anew club- Rock Hotel
has opened
. It is apretty big place and
has apretty big door charge- perfect for
the out of tow ners . Finally! N. J . ' s great
SECRET SYDE have been playing in N
. Y.
lately . . . . another coolo N
. J . band to look
for is MOD FUN . They definitely live up
to their title. They also put out az ine
called "START"
. Get it by w ritting to
Mick

Lydon

131

W . P assaic

St.
Maywood,N .J.07607 (S AS E) . Another hip
N .J . zine is"Jersey Beat
. Get it by
sending a S AS E to416 Gregory Ave.
W eehawken N .J
.,07087. O ther N .J . news
include N JF breaking up toform P LEAS ED
YO UTH . RO S MARI ES BABI ES kicking out
their bassist.

S olong

Lyle H ysen .
kICRY' O
:Su , Raub
Welcome to this : our very first towof
AMGki,TOUfG,PBOUD 5RI.IEADS . ALevelse
by angry, yeana,eroud skinheads for angry
youngproud skieb .eds . V. all hove some
very important things la comm.: first,
we are all aaary; that's right, madder
them antes with bellyaches . giraffes with
sore throats, gad plucked porcupines . We
don't knowwhat we are angry at, but, boy
are we angry!Mecood, we are young. I mean
we are so young
; mat one bit old, because
We all hoes bowuscool it is to be old.
And third, we are proud. But sot, of course
proud of America (Patriotism sucks, man) .
But we are proud of other things . We are
proud oTbeiogangry, and proud of being
younggad proud of beingskinheads . There
Is our magazine in a nutshell : L&RI,
IOU., PROUD fI IIML"'c .
Lotshappened here disholiday season.
The @Fest came off very good in my view,
although othersdiffer on that . That very
same night, N ew YearsEve, DI S C H ARGE
played elsewhere in town, sothat relieved
the crowd of "hardcores" . Thankstothe
bandsand many otherswho made the @
Fest successful, getting along and
cooperating in a very sane and humane
fashion.
New bands on the scene w ho have show ed
good
potential are: BUXOM, an all- girl
band
; UGLY, w ho are very original and
don' t necessarily get lumped w ith the
hardcores
; Harly' s CRO- MAG. MURP HY' S
LAW has released atape, w hich is
excellent in my view . Members of C
. F. A.
have returned home to uncertain future.
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That' s it for now
. Out of tow n bands can
w rite me for alternative gigs, or call
CBGB' s for matinees . Write J ohn Watson/
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BL A CK MA RKET BA BY G
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. H BIG BO YS Record Reviews by Tesco
Yee
A ll live
actionshots Interviews with
. The BigBoys and X
For your copy of Zone V
ZONE V C/0 Jim Saah
1 2801 Flack Street
Wheaton ND 20906
PLUS CO MICS A nd MuchMore
GA Y'S . THE PROBLEM THA T W ON'T
GOA W A Y
I wantto sounkoff abouta pro-
blemthatreally irks us ang ry
young proudskinheads . Ypu can'twalk
aroundthestreets of NeeYorkwith-
outpassing hordes of perfumedlie: , -
wristedpowder puffs . Tncseso-cal-
ledr, en prinpandprance_isg es-.-
ir., , ly displaying their : e. _: , _: : _y.
Perse., alll, I doe'tcure.if these
weirdos r 'to beg ay, letwhen
itbecomes c e to

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sies

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g oads . W eareproudto bemen . W e'
veg otour records, our boots, our
leather jackets, andour punkchicks.
W hy wouldany healthy A merican boy
wantmore? Plus, sometimeI wonder
aboutcertain 'hardcore'bands who
havelong hair . A rethey trying to
bepretty boy fag s likeMotley Crue
andDuran Duran? W hat's thedeal -
boys? If you arewimpy homes, why
don'tyou tell us skinheads, ao we ..
knowwhich bands to cross off our
hardcorelist.
TNrk1Y thk
;b.RS6IF
PHO TO S O F S U CH BA NDS A S X YO U TH BRIGA DE
Necros
Just send $2 .50 U.S.
$3 .00 over seas to :
-
P : J ust life in N. J .
J : If people
w rote songs about w here they .
w came from, every
song w ould be different.
<
MRR : SO WHAT' S GOING ON IN N
. J
. ?
m- P
: It' s going here to some extent . There' s

some good bands and acouple of clubs,

w scattered across the state.
J : Some of the bands are BADLAM,
m
SACRED DENIAL, MENTAL DECAY, '
n P LEASED
YOUTH, and FATAL RAGE.
w MRR : DO YO UTH I N K
I TW I LL GET
BETTER?
m,
A . O. D. are aclever bunch of lads from
;f4
N . J
. They be: P aul- vocals, Bruce- guitar,iu
vocals, J ack- bass, vocals, Dave- drums.
They formed in ' 81, w ith Bruce replacing
J imin ' 82
. They' ve had tracks on the NY
Thrash comp tape, P arty Or Go Home comp
LP , and w ill soon have tracks on the
German- U
. S. UndergroundHits
#2 and
Armpit Of Americacomp LP s
. They also
released their Let' s Barbeque EP .
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MRR : SO TELL ME ABOUT YOUR
RECORD. P : The first pressing' s gone,
but w e repressed it.

MRR
: WHAT' S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE

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TITLE?
D
: "Let'sBarbeque" isN ew Jersey.
,r J :
I t'scool because where ever we go,
people make usfree barbeques.
P
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"Money And S ex" .
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MAKES

YOU

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NON- P OLITICAL BAND?
P : We don' t w rite political songs.
#MRR: ARE YOU ANTI- P OLITICAL?
D : In no w ay . We have our political view s,
but they have been said before by other
political bands . And besides, I talk to
J ello . He' s our political friend ( A. O. D.
have opened tw ice for the DKS) .
MO W I N G
E GARDEN S tt
D
: If people supporeir ow n scene an
not just the bigger ones like N. Y. and
P hilly.
MRR : I HEAR BRUCE HAS A LOT OF
TROUBLE WITH THE COP S.
MRR : WHERE DO YOUR LYRICS COMEB
: Yeah, they' re alw ays at my house.
IG FROM?

_
. _

ffJ They make me clean my roomand take out,

the garbage. And they even sleep w ith my
mother.
MRR
: YOU GUYS HAV E A REP UTATION
' 1 OF SWITCHING INSTRUMENTS TO FORM
J OKE BANDS.
J : The first w as the FARTHEADS, It gave
us the chance to be even more annoying.
D
: But after the long- running Broadw ay
hit, Fartmania, w e sold out.
MRR
: DO YOU HOLD ANY RELIGIOUS
BELIEFS?
D
: Bruce is aSmother- conscious punk.
B: I had adream
that I w as at a funeral
and the body got up and it w as Tom
Smothers
. I took this to mean that he w as
jthe Supreme Being, and Dick w as a
disciple.
MRR
: ANY FUTURE RECORDINGS ON
YOUR LABEL, ' BUY OUR RECORDS' ?
P
: We are w orking on our LP right now .
We w ill
also release a BEDLAM 12 " and a
MY THREE SONS 7 ".
MRR : ANY TOUR P LANS?
J : This summer w e' ll go w here ever w e
end up.
P
: Hopefully the West Coast.
MRR : DO YOU GUYS TAKE ANYTHING
SERIOUSLY?
D: The w ords are ajoke, and w e' re the
punchline.
~s- . aw ay
ADRENALIN O. D. 2 5 Grant Ave
clo Dave Scott

Clifton, NJ 07 011
fI
Well, It' s been aparticularly long time
since my last report and quite abit has
occurred in that space of time. For
starters, as most of you have undoubtedly
heard. . . . MINOR THREAT broke up several
months ago and there are no plans to get
back together again
. They did, how ever,
record acouple of songs post- humously
but it' s doubtful these songs w ill ever see
the light of day . V OID, meanw hile, have
recorded an L. P . for Touch & Go Records
w hich is very much on the heavy, heavy
metal side, much more than their first
release
. MADHOUSE, featuring ex- ( D. C. )
YOUTH BRIGADE drummer Danny Ingram,
have recorded ademo for possible release.
Also slated for imminent release is a
BLOODY MANNEQ UIN ORCHESTRA record
and a7 " E. P . fromthe recently disbanded
MICHAEL. Fountain of Youth Records still
insists that they are releasing alocal
compilation L. P . w hich should feature a
broad cross section of local bands, know n
and unknow n . F. O. Y. is also planning
releases fromthe V ELV ET MONKEYS,
BRAILLE P ARTY, and lord know s w ho
else!!! The UNITED MUTATION E. P . is
sold out and should be going into it' s
second pressing
. Dischord has the
MARGINAL MAN 12 E. P . ,"Identity" , in
the can ahaare w orKing on acompilation
of some of the earlier and rarer Dischord
releases for a12 " . And finally,R E B
Record' s second release, SECOND WINDS
"Security" 12 " is out, after many
problems
. Out any minute now , on T & G,
w ill be the new MEATMEN "Dutch
Hercules" 12 ", featuring their all new line
up, w hile they recently unveiled their
"coming out" show at the Wilson Center.
Also at that bill w ere MARGINAL MAN,
GRAND MAL, and SECOND WIND.
MARGINAL MAN turned in one of their
most exciting and energetic performance
ever . With about 4 or 5 new songs under
their belt, each as strong as their earlier
ones, they proved that they are one of the
finest and most pow erful live bands in
D . C. ahard act to follow . But GRAND
MAL , though not avery visual band,
never the less packed just as much
intensity and energy into every song,
undoubtedly due to Linda' s rythmic and
hypnotic drumming and J oe' s urgent
vocals . Next up, SECOND WIND w ere
plagued by aguitar amp cutting out
during songs and having to cut the set
short so that the MEATMEN could do their
entire set . That' s basically all I can say
. about S. W. since I amin the band and
can' t really get aclear perspective
. The
MEATMEN, boasting an "all star " ( ?)
lineup of ex- MINOR THREAT, NEGATIV E
AP P ROACH, and DOUBLE- O members, put
on one of the most amusing grandiose
performances since KISS. The crow d w as
kept sufficiently bemused fromthe opening
chords of MC5' s classic "Kick Outthe
J ams", through astriking rendition of
AC/DC' s "HellsBells" . . . complete w ith a
smoke machine and Brain Baker as Angus
Young
. One of the evening' s high points
w as during "Lesbian
Death Dirge" w hen
Tesco, as J UDAS P RIEST' s Rob Halford,
came roaring onto the stage astride a
motoriz ed tw o w heeled demon . . . . or in this
case amoped . The older MEAT MEN songs
never sounded as pow erful as they do now
and the new er songs are drifting deeper
into the realmof heavy metal
. . . . only
musically though . They capped the night
off w ith aheavy metal takeoff called
"Wine,Wenches,and Wheels" . Definitely a
night to remember . The only new band
forming,to my know ledge, is SAM HAIN
featuring ex- MINOR THREAT and
NEGATIV E AP P ROACH members on guitars
and bass, and ex- MISFIT Glenn Danz ig on
vocals .

Rumor

has

it they sound
( surprisingly enough) like across betw een
MINOR THREAT and the
MISFITS
.
. .
. w onder w hy?? GOV ERNMENT
ISSUE make their official debut, w ith new
bass player Mike Fellow s, this w eekend at
the P aragon Too ( localfunk discoteque)
w ith GRAND MAL and D. C. ' s funk masters
TROUBLE FUNK
. G. I . have done avideo
of "HappyP eople" that is supposedly
pretty hilarious . Also out are live videos
( of questionable quality) of MINOR
THREAT, GRAND MAL, and the late 9353.
I w ould like to take this time now to ask
any local bands, fanz ines, record labels,
and w hat not to w rite me and let me know
w hat else is going on that I have' nt caught
w ind of or have become oblivious to
. I am
compiling an overview of exactly w hat is
going on here and I w ould appreciate some
help . . . . Thanks.
Until

later,

Bert,

P . O.

BOX
2 5054,WASH. , D. C. 2 0007
P . S.

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do
that most
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of your son s are sae' srthing
the macho image on "Chips ,so to

for
hu
manity? Or are w e You see any
hope
J oe,
MR R
attacks on middle
g

he has to be macho
; beat people up
befro I dont think ever on thew ay out?
class
a
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just observe an

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forced to submit Steve
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and the val

J im
:

th>v mimick w hat they' ve

read ~.
TL
ues of the
individual
group instead of the
values
of the .
J oe
: It' s like the things th
at people call being normal, to
us
seemkidf
4
n ostrange. J im
: lmagainst the w hole ideaof being
normal
a v
about
it,
irt
ue,cause if you think
w hat is normal? N
ormal means
average
. And w hat is the
average
person?
The
average
person w atch "
es
J oanie loves Chachi"
reads
P l
,eope
ma
gaz ine
. Is that a
i virtue? To be normal?
Li
P eople
get
really
i
ndignant that w e
dont
associate w ith any peer group and then
they say that
. . .
us.
J oe
: We suck
because
you can' t slamto
like parrots, w icnw understan
ding.
re so many people that star
J Oe : There abe rebellious or just
something out to
d then they just dont feel like
different an
w asting the time to do anything else
. After
that they start to stagnate on that note.
J im
: I personally prefer to play to the
a
hardcore crow d likeahall
s
how
than
to
o'
bunch of prepp e art
something, w ho w ould stand ar
u disa
d
w hole ecology thing
say,"Oh,
the
' "
how its all been said before
. J ust
passe,
jibber endlessly
.
f
au,
ed raw`

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t\J'
some people really are
ony
that
ele
You
know
v1 ,
MRR
: The
C
atholic trip,
J im
: They have answ ered their verility
Then there' s the female part of it- some
w omen don' t feel as if they' ve
f
ullfilled
teir
Womnhood if th
hey haven' t had
that all the time.
MRR
: Ti a
' s dont S
thik ing that' s
pr
obably
inborn ,
n
I thing,

that s a
con
scious
J im: I' mintereste in all these venereal
diseases that are popping up all of the
sudden
. Super diseases like AIDS. I think
there' s areason for people to be w orried
about it because once females catch AIDS,
w ho know s how far it w ill go?
MRR : Why do you think this is happening?
J im: I dont know . I think there might be a
principle behind it ;some kind of scientific-
like if one species becomes too dominant,
something w ill happen . A chain reaction or
something.
pa:
rticula
Why ave you picked ecology as
particular issue to
w r
itebout?
a
J oe
: It affects everybody
.
J im
: I feel that being concerned about
ecology has nothing
to do
politicali
h
being ~. ,

or artstic
. To me it' s just
t~ s- 7 1[ it

I\I

matter of
common sense cause it affects pessimistic about
J im
: I' ve
the hardcore scene tinf Amer cyInthe ( l
. + ' everyone
. I resent the fact that many
e
bining I thought that there w ould be

andpthe just look at the w orld the w ay it is

eg
more
hope
for people
that they' d
banyone

J oe
: "God
l agav

ngt use
. " me
anything
expect to say

J im
: When certain
takeittype
or 9 of aperson lk
open minded
. I mean I don
oos
just because

at acity he see' s abunch of buildings

that w e sound like
FLIP P ER,

w ith alandscape in the backrd W

to like us musically or any
t'

the onl
oun
. hen I
that particular person, thasy

l
sn'
ook
at
a city,
city

I
see alandscape w ith a
band they ever heard of thath of
doet
built on top of it
. There' s tw o
C
sound
like thrash
. And w e get so muc

different w ays to look at it

. The w ay this
It' s just mindless
.

plan

it'
that
.
et
is,s
been around for billions of
MRR
: Since you' ve become disillusioned

years and
' about hardcore, now that reality has sunk

evolved and it' s

e
adelicate cthin ystemhas
in, w hat is your motivation for continuing

just
. . .
. one

species

g you can' t
to play'

i like.
. . ,

cant

just

breed
J oe
: The rats-
J im
: Well, I hope w e can reach people
Maybe they' ll pick up '
;as
through the lyrics.
something fromit.
MRR
: So you haven' t throw n
inh
ea
to el
totally, in terms of that people
affected
.
ooen they' re
gi g
that re' s alw ays afew

told
children
that that'
no
s w hat
reastn
at
oth
in
herth
anyother w ay
MRfor
somehemes
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di e
veryuy
fr0u taken the subject?
Y

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of t'

ther

other than

organi
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all
lyricsI S h reraing toget across

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these
ation ecolog
approaches?

difference at all
,n

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s
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that
nce
9
J oe
: I
th
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P ratt

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achild is supp
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to for
them
,
ver
ythin

be
gs been
set
At:41= m
ed endlessly and take over the
J im:
.
. bre
w hole thing w ithout it all collapsing
. And
that' s w hats happenin
g.
J oe
: It takes some self control to stop
them
: im J

breeding.
So many people are born for no
n

eople have
reason a

t all

so may P
to have ababy,

-
robot that takes 9 months to build.
J im
: They can just stock up.
MRR
: Well,there is acertain unconciou
s
aspect of having kids w hich is about the
continuation of the species.
J im
: Yeh, that instinct
. There' s so many
other reasons for havinghk
kids
ids
ott
er
tmane
the rew arding aspects;
macho thing
. You have to prove that you
MRR : It' s not God' s w ill- getting even w ith
all the homosexuals.
J im: Oh, no, no.
J oe: The cycle of history is like
w henever there' s been abig population,
there' s alw ays been w ar and plague.
MRR : Although there' s slot of scientific
studies that show that the w orld is not
over populated ; in fact if there w as a
rational distribution of . . . .
J oe: Resources.
J im: Yeh, but w hat systemexists that' s
gonnadistribute the resources?
MRR
: There isn' t anyem
,
p
roblem.
J
ever
ything
,
im
: I' mall
for
people having kids and
understand

but they dont seemto

forever
;

that they can' t get along

there' s only so much
land,
only
so many fields that they can

there' s
t
there' s
hey can
on catch. ly
so many fish in
theln
ocean
MRR
: Well, I think
are into that

that most people w ho

J im
:

me
ntality are
undere
ducated
.
There' s millions of people like that.
MRR
: So in asense, it' s not really their
fault because they dont have the

thei
J im
:r I fault
.
know how you can say it' s not
.
MRR Wll
:e, because there is acertain
degree of
.
.
. .
J oe:
Lea
dership?
MRR
: Well, because there is a
degree of conciousness,

certain
int
eresting to do

It w ould be
poor

an
intereview w ith some
peasant in some country, w ho
obviously cannot afford to have 7 kids,
but

does
;

perhaps

tht' as grat
ification in life they have

the only
.
.
1 .

Q a.
Xh
J i
J im
: Well, I personally feel that
Christianity should be completely abolished
and forgotten . It' s not serving any useful
purpose at all.
L
J im: And it usually ends up killing them,
so it doesn' t quite end up like they
expected.
MRR
: We' d have to get their side of it to
find out, I think
. it' d be sort of difficult
to analyz e, sitting hire.
J im: Well, it' s agood
investment, having
lots of kids in places like that, because
after the husband dies or something, the
kids have to support the family.
MRR : That' s right
. that' s w hat I w as
saying earlier
; it' s part of the sociological
reasoning behind themhaving lots of male
children in these kinds of societies . But,
even alot of industrial societies have
tendencies w hich . . . our society right
now - - Reagan' s trying to make it impossible
to have abortions.
J im: Yick.
J oe: He sucks.
J im
: There are so many religious things,
like the Bible actually says multiply and
subdue the w orld. P eople take that
literally.
MRR : So alright
; any other pet peeves?
J im: No
. It' s be nice if I could
philosophiz e for hours how you could build
asystemto right the w rongs of the w orld,
but I' mnot sure how you could do that.
MRR
: Well, there' s one complaint I have of
bands
. Even though you
said that you
seperated
yourselves fromw hat' s "normal"
in the punk scene, I find it "normal" for
bands to complain about things, but it' s
extremely rare to find any band that
actually believes they can change
anything, or have their eyes on a
w ay of
going about it other than just complain.
J im
: It' s kindastrange. I have atendency
to be pessimistic, but there' s so many
things I see that help me to
be optimistic.
like I w as w atching Sesame St
. the other
day, and they had this thing- - aRolling
a ,Fy,

;~

e
.
4
.1
!
Stone as amuppet
. It occured to me t at
those
people w ho w ere into the ' 60s thing
are in the position to do things now
. So,
if there' s enough pseudo- intellectuals
around, J ello Biafra' s lyrics might make
themlearn something . Maybe it' s positive.
MRR
: What other positive thought can you
summon up fromthe deep there?
J oe: I' mgoing to join forces w ith Rev.
Moon and take over the w orld.
J im: Nothing to lose
. We' d like to provide
the music at their next mass w edding . The
w hole thing about people like Moon or J im
J ones is people
read about it and say "Oh,
that' s biz arre and shocking" . It' s not
unusual at all . It' s just apart of
everyday
life. It' s submission of the individual to
the group and the leader
. It' s as simple as
that. J ust an exaggerated version of it.
MRR : Anything else you w ant to stick in?
J oe: "Unite!"
J im:

The slogan for our band is

"Individuality through Unity . "
MRR : I can go for that.
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This report is coming to you from
Columbia, S. C
. fromthe guitar player of
DEATH ROW. We are one of tw o punk
bands in this city
. We formed about ayear
ago

and

consist

of

Laura- vocals,
Larry- bass, Chelsea- drums, and
Bill- guitar
. About half of w hat w e play is
very
fast and short hardcore
; the other
stuff is more diverse, including some
punk/funk and asong that combines
country and punk ( not like X or RANK
AND FILE)
. We play, on the average,
tw ice amonth, but have only gigged here
acouple of times because theere' s now here
to play ( there' s acouple of redneck bars
w here people ask us to play "Free Bird").
w e' ve just put together a30minute/2 0
song cassette that w e' re selling
. Most of
our songs are about the w ay things are
going generally, especially in terms of
society falling apart and thw w orld heading
tow ards nuclear w ar
. Even though alot of
w hat w e say sounds pessimistic, I don' t
think that overall that' s how w e look at
things . For instance, w e have asong
called "Death Row " that says the finger' s
on the button, it' s ready to blow . How
does it feel to be on death row ?" Now that
sounds pretty pessimistic, but the point of
it is to take asobering look at w hat' s
going dow n in the w orld, including w hat
can be done about it
. That song doesn' t
say w hat specifically can be done about it,
Lots has happened since last you heard
fromthis hell- hole
. AV OC broke up ; our
last gig being our best . I' ve formed NEON
CHRIST, a4- piece thrash band, and w e
intend to diversify by getting into funk
( w ith scratchin' ) and metal . We' re mainly
concerned w ith getting out an
anti- authoritarian/ anti- drug message, and
in having some fun w hile w e' re young
enough to get aw ay w ith it . We also
promote all the hardcore show s here
because w e' re devoted to the scene. J imi
( drums) and I have finished w ith the first
issue of our

Flailing

Dove fanz ine.

Ratlantamagaz ine ( P . O. Box 7 2 0341/
AtlantaGA 30358) is still hangin' in there
too . Our singer, Randy, also has a
new sletter called Dicharge ( P
. O. Box 5351
Young Harris GA 30582 ), w hich is very
w ell w ritten.
Only afew copies left of DDT' s 7 " . They
are still planning to record their LP , but
at present are content w ith their rippin'
show s that they consistently put on . They
have become truly great and they earned
that accolade. NEON CHRIST is planning
our record right now , w hich w ill be on our
Social Crisis label . We w ill also help out
DDT if w e can
. It' s all about helping each
other.
partly because it ' s nut apo itical mane esto
( w e need political manifestos, but not in
the middle of songs) . But w e definitely
w ant to get people thinking about w hat life
is all about and questioning w hy things
are the w ay they are. Well, I guess that' s
enough tooting our ow n horn for one
letter ; anyone w ho w ants to get in touch
w ith us can w rite to: DEATH ROW/ 162 4
Enoree Ave/ ColumbiaS
. C. 2 92 05.
The other band in this city is BLOW- GOS.
Their leading light, singer, and guitar
player is J ohn Wooten . Their music
reminds me of WIRE and other "throbbing
nihilist" bands ( I don' t know if they w ill
like this characteriz ation) . w e played w ith
themonce outside the Univ. of S. C.
student center, and had a good time.
ETCHIN' BONES
The almighty Metroplex is still in operation
and w ill take travelling hardcore bands . It
is THE place to play because it gives kids
achance to play and enjoy the music.
Anyone interested can contact themat
( 404)52 5- 9193
. Contact NEON CHRIST,
Social Crisis label, and/or Flailing Dove by
w riting me at 3696 Greentree Farms Dr/
Decatur GA 30034, or J imi Demer at 641 E
Morningside Dr/ NE AtlantaGA 3032 4.
Thanks, Kip DuV all .
There are 4 bands fromCharlotte, N . C.
that I know about . FETCHIN' BONES is a
4- piece w ith Hope- vocals, Aaron- bass,
Mitch- drums ( ex- ANTI- SEEN), and anew
guitarist
. They play mediumto fast.
ANTI- SEEN has J oe Young- guitar, J eff
Claton ( J et Leppard)- vocals, and bass
player and drummer I don' t know . They
are great guys w ho are- alw ays w orking
really hard to keep the scene going . Their
band is total noise/thrash, and they
usually knock over their equipment and
smash aguitar w hen they finish aset.
NRG are three young guys w ho play alot
like the P ISTOLS, but are developing a
sound of their ow n . We played w ith these
3 bands and also avery hard band from
Boone, NC called the OP P OSITION at a
show in Boone ( home of Appalachian State
Univ, for you football fans) called "P unk
In The Hills" . It w as agreat show , w ell
attended, and organiz ed by afellow named
Scott . I had given myself amangy haircut
the day before, and one guy at the show
w as overheard telling someone else that ' he
thought I had across cut out in my hair.
Oh boy! Not so- - no Christian, or for that
matter, Krishna, punks here. We also have
afriend in Charlotte w ho has aband
called SOCIAL SAV AGERY- his name is Clay
and he' s the singer . The other personnel
change constantly
. But they had it
together enough to play w ith us and
WHITE CROSS at aparty in agarage
about 10miles outside of Charlotte
( afterw ards, their drummer quit, w ith the
w ords "Heavy metal lives!).
The only other band fromaround here I
know to tell you about is called RED
MENACE. They' re fromOrangeburg ( 40
miles fromColumbia), and have
Connie- vocals, Steve- guitar, and I don' t
know the names of the rh thmsection.
DEATH P OW
Here' s the z ine situation . New Breed is
really agonz o rag
. The brainchild of J ef
Clayton, it can be obtained for only $1
and postage by w riting to 3135- I central
Ave/ Charlotte NC 2 82 05
. Living In Fear,
" Columbia' s only slamz ine", is chock full of
all sorts of neato artw ork and comix, as
w ell as provocative essays and superior
review s . It may be obtained by forw arding
aSASE w ith 544 attached to : 111 Church
St/ ColumbiaSC 2 92 01.
I hope that anyone w ho w ants to w iil
w rite. living in South Carolinais like
row ing aleaky boat dow n ariver full of
piranhas- - it' s only amatter of time. If
bands are playing in the Southeast, let us
know and w e' ll try to set up ashow here.
The punk kids here really appreciate the
few show s that happen
. Any missionaries
out there??
Bill Martin, and ChelseaS
ELAND- Hi! My name is Gerry Molyneaux,
and I run ( should say ran, due to lack of
finances) New Carnage fanz ine
. Much of
our outlay deals w ith new and upcoming
punk outfits, especially those raucous,
nihilistic bands w ho like to express their
frustrations, utter contempt, and
abhorrance of the present dire situation in
Europe, and the pseudo- political w orld in
general.
Most of the punks and skinheads here are
intermingled ( not often passively) in the
main urban metropolises of Cork, Dublin,
Galw ay, Derry, Waterford, Bray,
P ortadow n, etc . Gigging is still difficult
for bands because punk is still classed as
"subversive" and "extremely vicious" by
the local authorities w ho control the halls.
And this view is re- inforced by the
extremely volatile and unruly attitude and
reaction of the police to any attempts by
punks or skins to organiz e any gigs or
festivals themselves . Nevertheless, the city
of Cork w ill see visits by the likes of
RIOT/CLONE, DISORDER, BLITZKREIG,
and MAJ OR ACCIDENT, thanks to the
heroic efforts of local punx w ho w ork in
and run gigs at three clubs in the city
( P hoenix Bar, BodegaClub, Dow ntow n
Kampus)
. Gigs are run on aw eek to w eek
basis, featuring such vociferous anti- talent
non- entities as EUP HORIC V OID,
UNKNOWN WRECKS, URBAN BLITZ, MEAN
FEATURES ( Oil), and the LEGION ( Oil).
Cork' s former #1 hardcore outfit, V ERMIN,
can no longer hold claimto being the most
sought after band, because they are now
behind bars for w riting anti- government
graffiti all over local courts .
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Forty miles east of Cork lies the city of
Waterford, the home of DARKEST HOUR.
in 4 months, this band has managed to
arouse more interest/distaste than anything
in years . as w ell as gigging, they' ve
managed to construct a4- track studio from
an old unused shack .
How ever, Oirland' s best new band, beyond
doubt, are fromasmall punk hotbed in
County Westmeath, the tow n of Mulligar,
or "Boring Tow n", as our heroes
CATHOLIC GUILT proclaimit in their
song . Starting off by playing their first
gig to 15 bemused locals in their pub,
they recently released a17 - traEEI Tape of
pounding, raucous anthems.
Another great band are LEGALIZED
SLAUGHTER fromDundalk, w ho' ve had a
tape released by P sycho- Faction in
England . Diogheda, another tow n w ith high
unemployment and abig punk presence has
anumber of promising punk outfits, the
most talked about being EXILE IN THE
KINGDOM, w hose tape aroused much
interest w hen it got aired on the national
radio

RTE.
LEGAL
ISED
SLAUGHTER
crucified tarantulas to government officials
and
sw astica- emblaz oned letters to J ew s
w ith blades inside them. Obnoxious and
out- of- line to say the least. NME Ianeled
themas "Irish Iremongers" . SP EW J ERKZ,
an Oi! band, are more enterprising, and
just finished atour.
Dublin, the capital, boasts 2 really good
clubs w here punks get agood listen- in,
Faces and McGonagles . Come along to any
of these on the w eekend, and you' ll be
lucky to get in after 9 o' clock
. Other
hangouts include Bruxelles and anumber
of new w ave and Oi!- oriented cellar clubs.
Since the publiciz ed murder of apunk by
askinhead in 197 7 , punk has had abad
name here. But this has now changed.
Why? P erhaps complacency . Gig violence
has now diminished since the disbanding of
some of the bigger skinhead gangs like the
Rattlesnakes, Nun Attacks, Scum,
Skullcaps, F Troop, Feet First, Black
Catholics, etc.
Back to bands, Ireland' s recent Oi!
exports, CONTROL ZONE, fromOmagh,
County Tyrone, heralded their appearance
on the London recorded United Skins LP .
Also, they played w ith V ICTIM, BASTARD
SQ UAD, TRAITOR, and MONKEY SP ANNER
at a2 000large gig that w as aggro free.
Other better know n Belfast bands include
the OUTCASTS ( w ho in Dublin alone
outdraw any other band) and DEFECTS.
FromDerry come the RIP - OFFS, agreat
live band, the SECT ( ex- mods), and TEEN
IDOLS. Derry is also the home of a
brilliantly popular z ine called All Systems
Go, w hich is CRASS- oriented and w ell
Skinheads ( IRA)
being arrested by
plainclothes police after
clashes w ith N
. S. I . W. P

-
,( Naz i) skins at arecent football match
On the sujeconTorTety punk outfits
here know no bounds it seems, at least not
in the tiny tow n of Tuam, County Galw ay,
w hich has apopulation of 9000and 2
extremely vulgar punk bands, SP EW
J ERKZ, and BLACK REV OLV ERS, w ho
landed themselves in trouble after posting
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w oth aread.
Dublin' s punk scene has emerged as the
"sick man" of Ireland' s scene. A lot of
cancelled gigs, mini- w ar betw een punx,
skinheads ( Oil), rudie- skinheads ( ska),
mods, and rockabillies .
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
n
~aa 3nnulue Qlirrakk e e oe Tues., January 21, 1984
Rock MusiciansS ay
They H atched Reagan H oaxn
NAP SALM SUNDAY' s brilliant tape is out,
w hilst P ARANOID V ISION' : tape has sold
out . They' ve signed for an EP on Bluurg.
DRUNKEN J URY are another band w ith an
EP out and another on the w ay . Other
good bands to w atch are INSANE YOUTH,
V ERMIN, BACK FROM THE DEAD, SYSTEM
AGENTS, the ABNORMAL ( Oil, racist),
P ENIS

FEATURES,

The

P IN,

The
SUSP ECTS, BURNING CROSS ( racist,
crappy), etc . With the upsurge of punk all
around the country, perhaps Dublin w ill
pull

itself outside and blow afew

eardrums . TaRa!
London
Twomembersof a British
anarchist rock band said yes-
terday that they spliced to-
gether a tape recording of a
concocted conversation be-
tween P resident Reagan and
P rime Minister Margaret
Thatcher that U.S . officials
had described asS oviet props.
panda.
Andy P almer, 27, and P ete
Right, 34, guitaristsfor the band
C rass, brought the I wo-minute tape
toLondon bureau of the Associated
P ressa day after a British newspa-
per, The O bserver, reported that
C rasshad made the recording asa
hoax.
I t isa hoax" P almer said . "W e
_intended Rtobe a hoax, but what
we said in the tape we believe is
true ."
The poorqualhy recording that
the musiciansplayed yesterday
seemed tocontain the same odd die
toque asa tape that U.S . officials
said last summer wasan apparent
S oviet forgery.
The musicianssaid they went to
the Associated P ressyesterday be-
cause they had seen AP stories
about the tape I n US
. newspapers.
The jumpy, clipped
converse.
lion on the recording leaped from
topic to topic . At one point, Reagan
urged restraint In the dispute w ith
Argentinaover the Falkland Is-
lands, and criticised Thatcher' s ac-
tions in the conflict . M another
point, an incredulous Thatcher
questioned Reagan about nuclear
w ar in Europe and the president
said, in conflict, w e w ill bunch
missiles on allies for effective limits .
dolt of the Soviet Union
. "
Q uestioned about the tape last
summer, the State Department said
in astatement
that It w as afake,
w ith Reagan . ' w ords taken froma
speech on nuclear disarmament and
Thatcher' s froman unknow n
source.
"11tls type of activity fits the
pattern of fabrications circulated
by the Soviet KGB, although usually
they involve fake documents rather
than tapes," the statement said.
"Fromthe drift of the tape, the
evident purpose w as to cause prob-
lems for Mrs. Thatcher, by blaming
her for the sinking of the British
destroyer Sheffield, and also for us
by stirring trouble on the INF( Inter
mediate Nuclear Forces talks in Ge-
nova)issue. "
P almer noted yesterday that
the C I A and the (pate Department
took the recording seriously.
"All this thing about the KGB
show s that the techniques they ( the
Americans) use aren' t quite as Infal-
lible as w e think they are," he said.
Gerri/ New Carnage/ 169 Upper Rathmings
Rd/ Rathgar/ Dublin 6/ Ireland.
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EARLY U. K . SCENE

image We' d go on in second- hand ' 60' s .

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clothes and little plastic sunglasses . We

Daniel Sw an played drums for the
CORTINAS, an early English band from

w ere listening to all kinds of things at the

Bristol, fromMarch 197 6 to May 197 8,

time and looking for adirection to go in.

w hen they broke up
. The CORTINAS

We w ere all getting exposed to stuff like

released tw o singles on Step Forw ard the NEW YORK DOLLS and the MODERN
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one of the youngest "know n" bands around

field w as more R&B. Even w hen w e first

at the time,Dan being 15, the others 16

played in London w e used to put afew

w hen the started.
The interview came about quite by
accident . He w as staying w ith his brother
w ho lives in Berkeley and w as on adate
w ith afriend of mine. We w ere introduced (
and my friend mentioned that Dan used to
be in aband back in England . I asked him.
w hich ~c

an

he

said,amost
reluctantly,"the CORTINAS", convinced
that no one here had heard of themor
w ould remember themif they had heard of
them. I w as amaz ed as I really liked their
tw o singles and thought that the early
English scene w as fantastic . Not having
been there I w as very interested in w hat,
things w ere i e or ayoung person in
England at the time and here w as the
n"We got onto the punk scene very
7 early due to some lucky events . We w ere
( fromBristol, about ahundred miles w est
of London, and London w as the hub( 100
Club) there w asn' t much going on
anyw here else and it all seemed very
distant to us . We used to read about it in
the

music

papers .

Anyw ays,

Nick
Sheppard w ent up and saw the
STRANGLERS play in London and acouple
months later, summer of ' 7 6, he w as
w alking through apark in Bristol and
bumped

into

Hugh Cornw all( of the

STRANGLERS) and said ' I know you, I saw
R&B songs in our set . We started playing
in youth clubs around Bristol . We managed -
Th
T
~to get in on the gig circuit, the older
hippie bands w ould get us to play because
they thought that w e w ere abit of a
novelty . Then as soon as punk became
d

know n and people knew w hat w as

associated w ith it, then they started not
h' h

band

and

liking us hanging around . But w e used to

just laugh at them. That w as one of the'
great joys about being different at the
time, being able to laugh at people and
doing w hat w e w anted to do, not having to
follow their rules, and not caring w hat
they thought . They w ould come and
ridicule us because w e couldn' t play very
th

l k f

w ell
. We didn' t set out to be good, w e just
set out to be different . It just happened
perfect . o portunity to find out .

"I by chance that w e might have gotten good

g
1
and people liked us . We only got bad w hen
THE BAND' S BEGINNING

w e tried to get good . We w ere happy just

"The band formed in March of ' 7 6. I ~, p
being energetic
.

We used to have
used to play around abit, I first started ,
. incredible energy at the time in the group,
playing guitar but I never had much

leaping about the stage. It w as a very

passion for it, and then I started playing

vibrant set w e did. I think w e w ere pretty

the drums
. I bought my first kit for 10

good at the beginning to see, w e must

quid off afriend w ho ow ned ajaz z pub

' have looked pretty funny as w ell . "

and it w as dow n in the cellars being "We w ere playing around more in
sprayed by ahose pipe every day
. Nick aBristol gradually getting more of our ow n
Sheppard used to play guitar and w e *songs into the set
. J eremy w as w riting the
w ould get together and play the usual

,
lyrics about things that w ere apparent
trashy stuff at the time that w as around .

around himand people' s temperaments and

But my interests w ere alw ays more into

stuff . Like "Television Families", it' s about

' 60' s music, l never had agreat feel for

the social situation, like coming home each

' 7 0' s music
. My big influences at the time

night and your parents being like dead

w ere the early

BEATLES and early

people sitting in front of the telly,

STONES. We didn' t have any band going

vegetating, there' s no life in them. But

until Nick met J eremy V alentine and w e

you can' t really tell themthey' re w rong

both joined his band . I remember the first

because it' s very hard to offer an

time w e w ent off to practice,J eremy w as

' alternative. "

Mi1~l~~Llam'
there with hisbig quiff and straight jeans
a
and i and the rest of the band all had
NICK SH EPPARD_
long hair
. We w ere all sort of normal
guitar
looking mid- ' 7 0' s European kids and
J eremy w as very much into making the
band look different as w ell as sound
different
. He started us playing rhythym
and blues,early STONES songs and J AMES
BROWN songs,things like that . We w ere
just looking to play fast ,lively music that(

J
w e could jump about to on stage. Songs
that w eren' t overindulgent and that w ere

- -

' -

-
lust fun . We w ere into having agood
time. lookinq different,being different . "
"We did our first gig in late April of
' 7 6 .

J eremy

w anted to call us the

BACKDOOR MEN or something like that at

j
first, he w as looking for some sort of

r.
bluesy title
. Then he chose the name

~}s y
' CORTINAS because the Cortinacar in
England is like the ultimate cheap and

d 4
nasty automobile
. Every average guy of
you play aw hile ago! Hey I' min aband!'
and so Hugh said ' Okay, give me your
telephone number and w e' ll get you agig
sometime in London' . This caused great
excitement all around, but nothing much,
happened until late ' 7 6. Then around
Christmas w e got apostcard fromthe
STRANGLERS saying ' playing at the Roxy
next Saturday, come up and support us' .
So w e w ent up and played and it w ent
really w ell . We w ere so nervous . We w ere
alot younger than most of the groups
then and the crow d w as quite amused . The
manager of the club, Andy Chaikow ski( ?)-
also managed GENERATION X, asked us
w hen w e could play next . We w ere still in
school and could only play Saturdays,
so,
he booked us for the next three alternate
Saturdays . And that' s how w e did it,
that' s how w e started to et on up there. ",
THE EARLY SCENE
I w as just afeeling and you )U$t
got carried along on the feeling .
We w ere
young and w e w anted to be excitid and
excitable. We w ould see bands or
Our
records and jump up and dow n, scfti1w #
and go YEAH, BRILLIANT!
We just
to be different and w e had S
jai/ aM!W_ 3
.
.
_-
a

us to do singles w ith them. I can' t

learning to play . Everyone got inspired
remember w hy but w e chose Step Forw ard.
We w ent up to the studio over the w eekend
( because of school) and recorded "Fascist ;
Dictator" and "Television Families" in tw o v
days . That w as March ' 7 7
. The single w as R
put out and w e started doing lots of gigs,
alot w ith CHELSEA, and w e w ere playing
w ith w ith alot of good bands, the
STRANGLERS, the J AM, the DAMNED . We
played at the Marquee Club in London . It
w as brilliant that first year 197 7 . Of
course then all the big record companies
got paranoid, didn' t w ant to miss out on
all this, so they started signing bands left
and right and that' s how w e got signed
w ith CBS
. Miles w as picking up alot of
bands at the time also
. He added the
SQ UEEZE and also SHAM 69. SHAM 69 w ere
great! Totally natural bunch of people, no
sort of snobby musicianship about them.
They w ere just lads having agood time,
singing about w hat they felt and w hat they
saw , w hat they could relate to, not w hat
'marea
mP '-_

Jimmy P age'simagination dredged up or

creative

You made your

ow n "punk Mike Oldfield' s dreamor w hatever This

. .
clothes" and came up w ith your ow n style .

w as more w hat everyone felt, it w as on an

Nobody w as selling anything . You felt that easy, open level that anyone could relate
' ' ' !1 you had an immense pow er if you w ere a' l to".

The CLASH' s first album

"Our second single didn' young person . t come out

be different . It w as boring at the time
w as
the closest to me, to w hat it w as

until November ' 7 7 and by that time

The social conditions w ere bad in England,

really all about at the time. It dealt w ith I changes had occurred in our sound and
people had alot to be upset about . Many
. the problems of being ayoung person in
,
4appearance. Once you' ve done it, there
groups formed during this period, it

England and w hat you see, and how you

w as no point in staying the same

. P unk
inspired alot of people since you didn' t

feel about w hat you see",

w as areason to be different, but you!)

have to be anatural musician to be

didn' t have to stay like that . Like the

successful, you didn' t have to have
that LIFE AT 15

~~~- ,

hippies had been the same for years . They

I succes
breeding in you

You needed only

1 Tn
"
England you can' t leave school

looked the same thought the same did

. ,,
,Ienthusiasmand flair . You needed to be suntil you' re 16, so w e . w ere limited to

the same things for the past ten years

. We
yourself,

to express yourself
. Music

w eekends for gigs in other cities . All our

w anted to change
. P unk w as about change.
became fun again . Before you had to sit in/ friends fromBristol and our friend' s

It w as anew thing, it w asn' t any one

L
your roomand listen to LED ZEP P ELIN andl friends w ere our age or younger and

particular fashion, one single look that

e
get it all right
. Now everything w as

w ould come and see us

. We didn' t attract a

should stay forever

. We w anted to move
brought dow n to asimple level, like w hen

lot of the older hippie scene. We w eren' t aw ay . Once you' ve played up and dow n
rock and roll first started. Everyone w as

really interested in bothering w ith older

the country doing the same stuff for

picking up aguitar or w hatever and

people too much, w e just w anted our aw hile

you

try

and

elaborate.
friends to be there
. We never had a

Unfortunately w e didn' t do that very w ell.

b
and they saw that music isn' t just for

problemgoing to the clubs because in

Other bands did it very w ell, the CLASH,

"musicians" . And it w as all done on amore

England there' s no such thing as an ID,

the J AM, etc . You can think of quite a

r
personal level, small clubs and such . Most

you don' t have to produce apicture ID

. 1
few that have changed alot but kept that
4
' of the groups had poor equipment and b
~
Most places w ere just interested in packing essence
. We lost that essence w hen w e;
didn' t play great, but it w as the spirit,

the place and making money, they w eren' t changed . We lost w hat w as good about us
the amaz ing spirit of something that w as

w orried about people being underage

. I

to be in w ith".
really happening" .

w as 15 and nobody ever asked my age or

"P unk at the time had no fixed stylefd

dik Thsd to be aCBSTHE END

reuse me arn
. ere ue- -
Now w hen you think of punk you think of ~' lot of young people going into the clubs" .

"We never had much money w ith Step L

one thing, but at that time each band w as

"We all lived at home w hile w e w ere in

Forw ard
. Miles alw ays kept things on a
so different . You had the STRANGLERS,

the band
. My dad liked it, he used to tight budget . He had so many groups
w ho most didn' t consider apunk band but

drive us around and help us out alot

. He

under his w ing at the time, 9 or 10I

w ere real) hot on the scene at the time

e
ra~0ltsLr
really

even managed us for aw hile The other

.
and had one of the largest follow ings in

guys' parents hated it . They didn' t like

London . Then you had the SEX P ISTOLS,

the ideaof their "fine young sons" leading

w ho w ere different fromthe CLASH, w ho

the life of amusician, let alone apunk

w ere different fromthe DAMNED, and so

musician
. It really frightened them. But
' don, and all had their ow n character and ' w e w ere all really into it and continued hob
r
individuality .

They

looked

different,

playing instead of going after more

dressed different, and sounded different
.

education . It also gave us achance to

. Not everyone played in the same style
. If /travel quite abit playing gigs all around ,
England and P aris and Scotland as w ell".
"One problemw e experienced w as that
if you go straight fromschool to aband
,
"One of the things I remember about
WI
and have experienced none of life, none of
that time w as spending half the time p' w orking in the real w orld, your values
w orrying about w ho w as going to beat us
$T
aren' t as good, you don' t know w hen
up at our next gig
. Especially w hen the you' re onto agood thing
. You don' t have
SEX P ISTOLS came out, and all that i' ' enough conviction, basically
. You come
scandal, and people knew w hat to hate . At

straight from

home

into astrange
first they just thought
that w e w ere

environment . If I had been w orking like I

. stupid, but once they knew w hat w e amnow , I w ould have felt differently
. Most
w ere. . . There w as one gig w e did w here Iof the punk bands had come fromw orking
w e all got dragged off and beaten up and 0'
backgrounds and experienced abit of life.
all our gear smashed . There w as alot of j/ We w ere spoiled, w e didn' t know w hat life
trouble at punk gigs then, there w as
alw ays violence. The first real tour w e
did, w ith CHELSEA around England, thereto
w ere alw ays hassles, people throw ing

it all happened
very quickly
. The
things at the stage, fights, people spitting

first time w e played the Roxy, Miles

at us . It w as good then, it w as alright, it

Copeland saw us
. He w as on the hunt for
all added to it
. I don' t know if it w ould punk bands and teamed up w ith Mark P
have been the same w ithout it
. It w as very
lft
fromSniffing Glue fanz ine
. The first three
d
L
angerous to be apunk at the time, you

bands signed w ere us, CHELSEA, and the

either had to be tough or take an "edge" .

MODELS
. About the third time w e played
P unk

w as also

uite inventive and

you listen to the first 10punk singles
fromEngland you' ll find that they are all
' very distinctive fromeach other" .
think, that he couldn' t afford
no to. e
w ere at school for most of the time and
just did things on the w eekends . We lived;
at home and paid each other 2 0quid a
w eek
. We had never know n w hat is w as
Et
: like to have big money, w e never had more
!
than pocket money
. We didn' t feel cheated
or anything
. Once big money came into it
1
w ith the record company ( CBS) it all got!
at the Roxy, Step Forw ard and Stiff both

kind of strange The best thing for a .

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bandto do is to be able to pay for itsel

Talk continued into many different

to live
. But obviously you don' t w ant to

areas including the impact punk has had

have to sell yourself dow n the line, you on the kids of today and how they are
don' t w ant to be forced to change to do
1
much more aw are of their surroundings.
that . So alot of people w ill keep part- time
jobs just to keep their original ideas
going
. So they can play w hat they w ant
. even though it' s not getting themalot of
~ money".
"I remember Miles coming in one day
and telling us that he had secured abig
deal . ' You gottahave abig deal' , he says.
I never really thought about w hy w e
should have abig deal
. So w e just sorta
w ent along w ith it and it w as horrible. We
~ thought that' s w hat bands did
. Someone
offers you money and agood deal, it' s
hard to turn dow n
. We thought w e' d get
good exposure and have areally big
industry behind us
. We really lost out, w e
died then, that w as the start of our
decline
. We w ere no good fromthat minute
onw ards . I mean the album' s okay, but it
w asn' t good enough . When w e w ent froma
crappy little office on Oxford Street to a
five- story building w ith departments, and
meetings, and all that, I knew it w as
over . "
"Miles ran areal nice operation w ith ;
Step Forw ard . It w as a good company
. He
did alot of good, he brought alot of
' bands out and he never tried to change a
band . He never told us w hat to do, w hat
to release or w hat to record, w here as
CBS did . We w ere given tw o w eeks to
record an album
. We w ere sort of
directionless at the time. We w anted to
move, w e didn' t w ant to stay the same,
because w e w ere cheating ourselves and
d
our fansby doing so. W e recorded the
album and C BS sat down and listened toit
and said they wanted a hit single
. W e said
we weren't a hit single band, we were just
us
. S othey said 'Goand record this', and
they gave usa couple of oldiestorecord.
S owe went and did 'em and a couple of '
Z
w eeks later w e split up because it just all
I
got silly and boring, we just didn't want
tobe a part of that . Then they brought
out the album after we split up in May
1978
. W e were only together for twoyears,
but we did quite a lot in that time".
DISCOGRAP HY
Singles- - Fascist Dictator b/w Television
Families
Defiant P ose b/w Independence
N
Both singleson S tep Forward Records
N released 1977
Album- - True Romances, CBS, 197 8
'1'H li COlrI'INAS
FAS C I S TDI C TATO R TELEVI S I O N FAMI LI ES
Also how punk has opened up the charts
in England, and how bands stand amuch
better chance of having some kind of
success there. There isn' t the extremely
large gap betw een the "megastars" and the
younger bands as there is in the U. S.
Young bands like the BEAT, ADAM ANT,
the SP ECIALS, and so on, probably w ould
have been lost in the shuffle over here
` ( w hile you may not like these bands they
do/did have adifferent sound than most of
Sheppard
i
DAN I EL S W AN :drums
trie d a a
iti1~
tried afew bands but said it w as so hard
to become anything or try to do something
on alarger scale
. As it turned out, he
w ent back to England and ended up joining
the CLASH
. Another thing that came up
that also show s this point is how the early
English bands w ere quite w ell- know n ( or
n
became w ell- know n) w hile their American
counterparts w ere relatively unknow n and
more or less stayed that w ay ( w ith afew
,el
notable exceptions)
. Now w hether you
think that' s good or bad is up to you, but
consider this
: If the SEX P ISTOLS and the
CLASH didn' t get all the publicity that
they did, w hat might you be listening to
the now ?
w as in the U. S. for aw hile and~
the drab stuff around at th time) . Nick
EAST GERMANY- The story begins in 1981,
w hen the first punks appeared in East
Berlin . At that time, they had alot of
fear of the police and state
. When they
saw "coplaw s", they hid everyw here they
could
. Back then, there occured one of
the first concerts, at ameeting of
religious students of all places
. Fromone
minute to the next, many of the punks in
the crow d w ent onstage w ith their
instruments and played
. Nobody in the
audience understood anything!
Since then, there have been more and
more kids getting involved w ho don' t give
afuck about w hat anybody thinks
. They
put w atercolors in their hair, and shop at
the old- fashioned big clothing stores
( HO- Kaufhalle) to buy craz y things
. The
50' s are still alive in those shops
; not as a
new fashion, but out of the refrigerator.
For punks, its just fun.
Friedenadernonstranten In J ena
Anarchisten and Agenten?
But sometimes, the fun becomes dangerous
for them
. A year and ahalf ago, the West
Berlin magaz ines published photos of East
Berlin punks, and some w eeks later, they
w ere in jail . The same happened to an 18
year old punk in ' 81 . There w as abig
state commemerative festival about the 2 0th
anniversary of the Berlin Wall . The
Communists made big headline posters that
read "2 0Years Of The Wall, 2 0Years Of
Security" . The punk spray painted
beneath that, "2 0Years Of The Wall,
Slow ly We Get Bored".
Another w ell- know n provacative action of
punks there is to w ear many buttons . For
instance, if you are good in school, you
e f
get these buttons
. So, often you see
punks w ith destroyed jackets and buttons
like those or "30Years Of
East
German- Russian Friendship" alongside SEX
P ISTOLS, @ , or "Naz is Out Of Germany"
buttons
. The police and teachers don' t
know w hat to make of it at all! ! !
In 1982 , the East German scene began to
grow and unite. In one part of East Berlin
called P renz lauer Berg, ' punks and hippies
occupied aw hole street of old houses
. The
scene there now is good
. There are
concerts and parties in back of the
houses
. Back in J une of ' 82 , the punks
and hippies held abig meeting in the
house of one of the punks . In the garden,
they had aconcert and 500 people
came. .
. fromErfurb, Halle, Berlin,
Karl- Marx Stadt and everyw here
. The
bands that played w ere WUTANFALL,
KEIM- SCHLEIM, KEKS, and
UNERWUNSCHT
. The cops show ed up, and
to avoid w hat had happened the year
before to some hippies, they split it all up
into different groups .
This year, the West Berlin label
Aggressive Rock P roductionen released the
first East German sampler of underground
music
. At first there w ere to be 5 or so
groups, but because of problems w ith the
secret police, it only ended up being tw o.
The hardcore group on side 2 ,
SAU- KERLE, must have gotten into trouble
for that. But the attitude of the East
German rebels is that it' s better to do time
in prison than to go over the Wall to West
Berlin . There' s alot more to say about
East Germany' s punk scene, and soon I' ll
return there and send more reports.
That' s it for now . I' ll be glad to answ er
any letters of people w ho w ant to exchange
East or West German hardcore w ith their
ow n . Also, any bands out there that w ant
to tour Germany, please get in touch.
Betw een myself and friends all over the
country, w e can arrange atour through
really good places!!! So ,w rite!
Andreas Wench/ Laubaner Str . 50/ 4800
Bielefeld 1/ W Germany .
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Chaos in
il,
Norw ay, the land of icebergs and vikings.
Up here in the ice cold north there is a
scene, but it is small . It started back in
197 7 - 7 8 w ith bands like KJ OTT,
HAERV AERK, OSLO BORS, w ho w ere
classic ' 7 7 styled
. There w ere other bands
then too, like LIR, DE P RESS, etc, w ho
had amore original punk style. At first
the scene w as small and located mostly in
Oslo or Bergen, w ith the more original
bands coming fromthe latter ( TAV - the
only Norw eigan band to appear on aJ ohn
P eel radio show , J OHNNY BANNAN BAND,
OV ERDOSE, V ENDETTA). Independent
record companies sprung up ( Torpedo,
Zado, Fleske Skiver) . Zines did too
( 666,
SiderDuIkke Ser, CityRocker) . An- d
people began to squat houses, like
"Skippergata, and the mediatook notice.
But they w ere
very unorganiz ed, and after
ayear or tw o, broke up.
Since those days, not too much happened
until recently, although it seems there are
less punks today then back then . As for
HC, first there is KJ OTT. Their "Nei Nei
Nei" is aclassic song . After a12 " and 7 ",
and mediocre LP , they broke up ( R. I . P . ).
LIK just did an EP , and it' s bloody good,
electronic ' 7 7 punk! ! It came out on their
ow n label, and they w ill also put out a
cassette w ith some of the older punk
bands . DE P RESS have three LP ' s and a
12 " and 7 " . One of the LP ' s is recorded
live in P oland ( fromtheir tour there w ith
KJ OTT and TAV ) . Their singer, Andrey
Nebb, is P olish and left there in 197 8.
They have avery special sound, and sing
songs in Norw eigan, P olish, English, and
Russian! Their first LP , Block To Block,
is aclassic! Try to get it! ! ! HAERV AERK
put out a7 " EP before splitting up.
FADER WAR is more hardcore than
DISCHARGE, but they split up too . Before
doing that though, they put out an EP and
shared a12 " w ith 3 other bands
. BETONG
HYSTERIA put out a7 " and split up too.
It w as one of the best punk records to
come out of Norw ay!!
WANNSKRAERR fromTrondheimis the best
live band in the country ( they opened for
THEATRE OF HATE and blew themoff the
stage). They have both a7 " and 12 " out
on Oh Yeah Records, and have cut a' one
off' w ith X- Centric Noise Tapes.
LILLIEDUGG is another band on that label,
w ith an excellent EP ( the cover w as
banned! ) . P V C did tw o 7 "ers and tw o
mini- LP ' s before splitting. They w ere
heavy ' 7 7 punk . BLAUP UNKT put out a7 "
and LP , the former being legendary.
MITTI SKRITT!

is one of the few

Norw eigan bands w ith aw oman in it . They
too

split

up,

but w ill be on our

compilation.
NACENT LIW have aCLASH/GBH sound
( huh?), and w ill soon put out an EP .
NORSKE GUTTER are the most famous
punk/new w ave group, and are the only
openly gay band in Norw ay . So, as you
can see, the punk scene here is pretty
small ( w ith many bands breaking up) . But
there are some things still happening.
LOV ER OG TIGRE is abloody good
jaz z /punk band ( BAD BRAINS w ere ajaz z
band too!). They have members of
BETONG HYSTERIA, TAV , and others.
They have put out an LP w hich is one of
the best punk records in all the w orld .
Their company, P latesrskapet, w ill be
putting out adadaistic punk 45 by
someone named CHRIS ERICHSEN, that' s a
kick in the ass to all "normal" people!
ANGOR WAT have put out ac- 46 tape
through Knall fanz ine, w ith a' 7 7 sound
like EBBA
SON fromSw eden
. And there
is apunk compilation cassette out from
Den Onde Sirkel, w hich is agood place to
start
. Also, my fanz ine, Requiem, w ill be
putting out an international punk cassette
in early 1984
. You can w rite me, Tore
Nilsen, at
: LOP / 8061 Lppsmarki "lorw ay.
Thanks, and hope to hear fromyou.
Tore and Tieren Hild
We had the opportunity to talk to avery
young punk fromNorw ay recently . he is
Thomas Seltz er, age 14, fromthe band
AKUTT INNLEGGELSE ( Acute Admission).
MRR
: HOW LONG HAV E YOU BEEN A
BAND? T
: We started only ayear
ago.
There are tw o of us w ho are 14, and tw o
are 16.
MRR
: WHY DID YOU FORM A P UNK BAND?
T
: What answ er do you usually get?
Boredom
. I' d like to say it w as something
else, but . . .
T : All the normal stuff . . racism. . There' s a
lot of it in Norw ay . We don' t sing about it
though just because everybody else does.
But it' s all been said before in interview s.
That doesn' t mean it' s not important . I' d
think about that stuff even if I w asn' t aj
punk . n
MRR : WHAT yRE SOME OF YOUR
IMP RESSIONS OF THE U. S. ? n
T
: Big. A lot of mixtures . A lot of
everything
. A church right next doot to a
massage parlor . Lots of contrasts . All the
ads on TV . In Norw ay, there' s no ads.
MRR
: IS THAT BAD OR GOOD?

n
T: Both . When you come to the U
. S. ,
everything' s in lights . You go AAAGH! ! I
w as in cultural shock for w eeks . Even at n
night you have to w ear sunglasses.
MRR : ARE THERE ANY OTHER YOUNG
OSLO BANDS? n
T : There' s OLE REIDARS and BARN AV
REGNBV EN ( unfortunately, amember of
each band w as recently killed in an auto n
accident ; agiant loss for all of us), and
SV ART FRAMTD ( Black Future) . Here,
punk is spread out in 4 parts of the
n
MRR
: Where do you live?

country.
T
: A penninsulaoutside Oslo ; asuburb
.

MRR
: YOU HAV E A TAP E OUT FOR $3.
MRR : ARE THERE A LOT OF P UNKS?

HOW CAN P EOP LE GET IT?

n
T
: J ust us .

T
: Write to: Thomas Seltz er/ Dalbovei 12 /
MRR :
WHAT DOYOU SI NG ABOU T?

1458 Fjellstrand/ Norway.

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Firstly, I w ant to apologiz e for not w riting
this report sooner, but I' ve been laz y as
shit. And secondly, I w ant to correct a
misconception I' ve heard and read about,
namely that Finland is the ' punk meccaof
Europe' . We may have lots of great bands
and records here, but the scene itself
isn' t healthy . Bands are very jealous of
each other, badmouth each other, etc.
Without that, the scene w ould be much
better
. If some scene is the punk meccaof
Europe, it' s the Italian scene. I' ve heard
so much good about it, that it has to be
truly great.
At the moment, there' s lots of groups w ho
can' t stand each other . Most of the older
punks are now into KILLING J OKE, LORDS
OF THE NEW CHURCH, etc . They really
hate hardcore. Then there' s the younger
punks w ho are only into English punk.
They hate everything that comes from
America( except BLACK FLAG and DKS)
because "they play too fast and don' t look
punk enough" . And then there are those
naz i skins w ho hate everyone, especially
punks . Fortunately, there' s not too many
of them( only in Tampere are they into
fascism; Helsinki skins are not into that,
but aren' t against violence either).
The latest generation of punk bands are
getting out of the basements, and are
inspired by the big names like TERV EET
KADET, RIISTETYT, BASTARDS, KAAOS,
and English bands . You can check out
some of the new comers on the Hardcore ' 83
comp LP , along w ith the bigger bands.
Here' s

list

of

the latest bands:

P ROSTITUUTIO,

AIV OP ROTEEESI,
SOTATILA,

UP P ONALLE,

MASSACRE,
EP IDEMIA, THEOBILUS- BAND,
P OLIISIV ALTIO, NEUROOSI, HALLOWEEN,
U. C. T. , KAAP P AUE, P URKAUS, V AP AA
KALJ A, KLIMAX.
TERV EET KADET
They haven' t played in their home tow n,
Tornio, since ' 82 , but have had 4 gigs in
Helsinki and other tow ns . Live, they' re
not agreat stage presence band, but the
music is great thrash! They have anew
drummer now ( the old one didn' t w ant to
do gigs), w ho used to be in MAP
. MAP
split up after Walde , the guitarist, left
the band . He now plays in KUOLEMA .
RIISTETYT now have anew line- up . The
only original member is Lateri, the singer.
The new comers are
: Nappi ombass
( ex- KAAOS), J askaon drums
( ex- KAAOS), and Rike on guitar . Those
same members, plus Costello ( from
P OP EDA) formthe HOLY DOLLS, w ho are
said to be Finland' s LORDS OF THE NEW
CHURCH. They' ve recorded an LP , and it
should be out soon
. Back to RIISTETYT,
their first LP is out in Germany, and the
new LP , Nightmare In Darkness, should be
out soon . Also coming out is a12 " EP .
The old RIISTETYT line- up recorded one
of the greatest records ever done here,
the Skitsofreniamini- LP . RIISTETYT w ill
probably do the U. K
. tour the BASTARDS
cancelled.
TAMP ERE SS did one great EP and afew
gigs, but then they split up after the
bassist left to join TUOMITTUJ EN J UHLA
( anew CRASS - influenced band).
TAMP ERE S5.
r
NUKKETEATTERI have released 2 records
on their ow n label . Their first w as a
4- song EP that' s very good punk, but
could' ve been better produced . In the fall
of ' 82 they kicked out the drummer and
bassist, and took the singer and bassist of
LAAHAUS ( w ho split up last summer).
They dropped all their fast numbers and
started to play ' progressive punk' ( long,
slow songs like THEATRE OF HATE), but
have now found their ow n sound . They
just released a12 " w hich contains some
really w eird stuff
. Now they' re looking for
anew guitarist, as the old one left cause
he w ants to play normal punk.
records
. P oko have only RATTUS, since
Kohu- 63 broke up, and TERV EET KADET
w ent to P ropaganda. J ohannaRecords only
have UNICEF, as LAMA split up.
P ropagandahas all the big names, and
have also organiz ed most of the punk gigs
in Helsinki, and put on a3- day punk
festival last summer. Some time ago, it
seemed to be very easy to get on
P ropaganda: just play as fast as you can,
and call yourself ' hardcore' .
Unfortunately, that made it too easy for
the bands, and very few have tried
putting their ow n records out.
Rock- o- ramaRecords in Germany is now
releasing most of P ropaganda' s stuff there
( they' re the same as the Finnish records,
but

have

different

covers

and
posters- - except

for

the

BASTARDS'
Siberian Hardcore LP , w hich is soley out
in Germany, w ith English lyrics no less.
Now , here' s some band new s:
TERV EET KADET left P oko Records
because the label didn' t like themtoo
much
. So they w ent to P ropaganda, and
have done three 12 " records : Hallow een
LP , Message 4- song EP w ith English
vocals, and the latest, V ertamini- LP .
The biggest problemnow is the lack of
gigs . The reason is simple: punk bands
don' t draw big crow ds, so promoters don' t
w ant to take risks in booking them. The
biggest gigs take place mostly at
Lepakkoluola, in Helsinki . But these only
occur about 2 - 6 times ayear . There w as a
big punk show in Rovaniemi in
December- - lots of bands played, but only
ahandful of people bothered to come. the
organiz er lost $300. Ultimately, it' s up to
the bands to get these gigs, but most are
too laz y or don' t have amanager.
AP P ENDIX though, are gigging the most at
the moment, and have show n you can get
gigs if you hustle. They did amimi- tour
in J an ( to places w here punk bands had
never played before), and are planning a
bigger one in spring. P ropagandaRecords
is now the only label that' s releasing punk
BASTARDS have changed singers since
releasing their first EP , and have done
quite alot of gigs around Finland
. They
are another example of ahard- w orking
band, and organiz ed aEuropean tour
themselves ( Denmark, Germany, and
Italy)
. It w as successful ( not monetarily)
in the sense of populariz ing Finnish punk.
In fact, they lost quite abit of money,
but don' t regret it . Their Insane World LP
is selling real w ell, as is the Siberian
Hardcore LP
. They split up in J anuary,
just prior to going on aU. K. tour. Rike,
the guitarist, left to join RIISTETYT .
RATTUS, at long last, got the new singer,
they had been searching for
. He' s an old
friend of theirs ( ex- roadie), not the
greatest singer in the w orld, but has a
great stage presence
. The first record
that Annikki sings on is Uskonto On V aara
EP , w hich has P ushead' s artw ork on the
cover ( as did the last one)
. RATTUS w ill
soon also have acollection LP of their best
songs out on Rat Cage Records in the
U. S. Also out in the states is their 60
minute cassette on Bad Compilation Tapes,
as w ell as atrack on MRR' s "1984" comp
LP ( as do TERV EET KADET), w hich w ill
be out in April .
KAAOS changes its line- up all the time.
On their new LP , Ristiinnaulitto, there is
much more of avariety of stuff than
earlier records ( not as fast and chaotic).
Now J akke plays guitar instead of singing,
and their recent gigs have been terrible
( too much booz e in their heads).
V ARAUS put out aone- sided } LP by
themselves, and have just released areal
hot 7 " . They haven' t been gigging too
much, but are one of the promising young
bands in the country . Their line- up hasn' t
changed in almost 2 years .
Lihanukke! P L 12 / 7 57 01 V altimo/ Finland
Anti- Destroy/ c/o Marko Kuvaja/
Retkeilijant 8 A 8/ 7 02 00Kuopio 2 0/
Finland
MustaEnergia! c/o J . Impola/ Ratsukatu
11 A 12 / 92 100
Raahe 2 / Finland
SOME OF THE NEWER BANDS by Risto
Eronen
LAMA, the oldest punk band, split up in
Dec
. ' 82 , the farew ell gig held at
Lepakkoluola.
This w as the day after the
very first Finnish punk festival took place
in the same locale. That w eekend w as a
great event in Finnish punkdom. J ohanna
Records released LAMA' S farew ell 45 ahalf
year after they split up ( their w orst).
That w as follow ed by a12 " comp of their
singles.
KOHU- 63' s singer, Latta, is in jail now for
6 years, for stabbing apunk
. I' ve heard
that the band w ill try to go on w ith the
bass
player singing, but I think they
broke up
. They released an LP , Lisaa
V ertaHistoriaan, w ith the stupidest lyrics
ever put on record, glorifying w ar,
lence, and racism.
AP P ENDIX has been gigging quite alot in
their area, and not that much in southern
Finland . When they played at the P untala
Rock ' 83 festival, the bass player got a
beer bottle to his head
. Their first LP got
released in Germany, and they' re w orking
on their second now , w ith the music
progressing more into ' rock' .
Some other bands w ho need mentioning
are:
KANSAN UUTISET, w hose LP ,
Beautiful Dreams, is out only in Germany.
RUTTO, the only punk band here w ith a
female vocalist, w hose EP is out on Laja' s
( of TERV EET
KADET) label, Ikbals . They
are planning asecond one now , w hich w ill
be of better quality . I' d like to apologiz e
to P exi of MAHO NEITSYT for not
mentioning his band in my first scene
report . They have been going for 3 years
and have 2 EP 5 out . Their style is more
' 7 7 style, slow er punk, w ith funny lyrics.
UNICEF' s first EP is out now . The band
contains 2 ex- LAMA members, J usaand
Raitsikka. Don' t know how active is
,because the singer, Tino, spends alot of
time in Norw ay, and they are on the
second Really Fast comp LP fromSw eden.
At the moment, the bassist and drummer
are in the army .
Some interesting bands ( but not hardcore)
are SIELUN V ELJ ET, w ho are hard to
label
. They are very close to punk' s
original ideal to have the music progress
but keep the energy and raw ness
. They
have a3- sided LP , one mini- LP , and a
single. P ARAATI contains some Helsinki
punk veterans ( Epe/ex- LAMA, among
others)
. GEISHA is an all- female group
w hose music is very simple and charming.
They have a12 " out on J ohanna.
That' s all for this time. More in the
future. For acatalog of records and tapes
that I distribute, send 2 IRC' s or $1 to:
P . Tuotanto/ Box 69/ 40101 J yvaskyla10/
Finland.
Band addresses:
TERV EET KADET/ c/o Aijala/
P uistolammintie 2 9/ 9542 0Tornio 2 / Finland
KAAOS/ c/o J akke Hallikainen/ Makitie 18/
33610Tampere 61/ Finland
V ARAUS/ c/o T. V uorenmaa/ J okipolku 11/
007 80
Helsinki 7 8/ Finland
RATTUS/ Box 69/ 40101 J yvaskyla10/
Finland
AP P ENDIX/ P oste Restante/ 2 8100P ori 10/
Finland
MAHO NEITSYT / Box 10/ 45141 Kouvola
10/ Finland
RIISTETYT/ Nasilinnankatu 2 1 C 15/ 332 10
Tampere 2 1/ Finland
RUTTO/ c/o Makinen/ Tapiolantie 3/ 95410
Kiviranta/ Tornio/ Finland
Fanz ine addresses:
Laama/ P L 63/ 0042 1 Hki 42 / Finland
Ulo/ c/o P . Suomaki/ Kotamaki/ 41800
Korpilahti/ Finland
ImmortalP unk/ P L 152 / 96100Roi 10/
Finland
AlamaailmanK apina/

c/o

H .

Taimi/
K asvitarhanp . 9 B 42/ 26130 Rauma 13/
Finland
P ainajaisuni/

c/o Lintsu/ Laurintie 17 /

65300V aasa30/ Finland
Kaaos/ c/o Matti Saarinen/ J aakontie 4 AS
12 / 37 800Toijala/ Finland
SysteeminOrja/ P L 89/ 96101 Roi 10/
Finland
Karsa/ J L 42 /
867 10Karsamaki/ Finland
Barabbas/ P L 151/ 00141 Hki 14/ Finland
Hameen

Ilkityo/ P L 61/ 37 101 Nokia/

Finland
Rappio/ c/o P . Gustafsson/ Kasvitarhanp 9
B 40/ 2 6130Rauma13/ Finland
TUOMITTUJ EN J UHLA
Fromout of the ashes of MARIONETTI has
risen this new band . "We don' t w ant to be
under the so- called ' hardcore' label,
because of the lack of ideas in that scene
that is common in Finland . Our musical
influences are close to so- called ' thinking
punk' bands, like FLUX, CONFLICT,
SUBHUMANS, OMEGA TRIBE, CRASS, etc.
All our productions ( literary and musical)
w ill be released on Rapagondalabel
( nothing to do w ith P ropaganda), w hich is
anon- commercial alternative founded by a
group of individuals" . For more info,
w rite: J
. Tervakangas/ Tiilentie 2 0/ 37 500
Lempaala/ Finland.
DESTRUKTIONS
DESTRUCKT IONS
"We' re fed up because w e' ve seen our name
w ritten w ithout the letter "k" . It' s
DESTRUCKTIONS, not DESTRUCTIONS.
We' re on P ax Records next compilation Lp,
and w ill have an EP out soon to follow up
our V oxP opuli LP , w hich is out in
Germany" . For more info, w rite: Mike
P oison/ Torpparintie 1A/ 2 8450V anha-
Ulvila/ Finland
KUOLEMA
"We' ve had many practice places, but have
alw ays gotten kicked out
. At the moment,
w e' ve got quite agood place, but it seems
that w e' ll be kicked out of there too . When
w e started, none of us could play, but
w e' re getting better . We' ve had only 2
gigs . Both have been interupted cos w e' ve
been so drunk . w e' re on acouple of comp
tapes, as w ell as Hardcore ' 83 comp LP .
P ropagandaw ould like to put out a
cassette LP , but w e' re not sure. Our
influences are CHAOS UK, DISORDER,
CRUCIFIX, KAAOS, V ARAUS . BASTARDS
and RIISTETYT are getting too soft
sounding . We love noise more than
anything. Hope everything gets better
w hen this fucking w inter is over . " for
more info, w rite: J uki P faler/ Hakamaantie
6 B 8/ 942 00Kemi 2 0/ Finland
MELLAKKA
"The band is fromRauma, w hich is quite a
small place. It' s anice place, but there
are some people w ho can' t stand us . They
think everybody should look the same. We
think everyone can be w hatever he/she
w ants to be. Finland should be afree
country, but that w on' t w ork unless kids
stop fighting each other ( w e' ve heard that
punks fight each other, but not here in
Rauma)" . For info, w rite: J appe/Mellakka/
P enunvahe 1/ 2 6130Rauma13/ Finland .
V AURIO
"We practice in the upstairs of achildren' s
home, w hich w as given to us by the tow n
of Naantali
. We w ill have amuch- delayed
EP hopefully out soon . Like and Lahti of
the BASTARDS w ere there helping us
record it . Everything got real messed up.
We w ant to say this about fanz ines : they
are afucking great thing. There are good
ones and bad ones, but the main thing is
that somebody' s out there making them. "
For info, w rite: Sauke Salomaa/ Kaivokatu
6 B 10/ 2 1100Naantali/ Finland.
H. I . C. SYSTEEMI
"We formed in August, after the Second
World War, w hen w e didn' t know about the
Third World War . We live in Ylivieska, a
small tow n w ith reindeer . We make
drinking songs . When w e' re not playing,
w e take care of our relationships to Alko
( Finnish liquor shop). As for the peace
movement, they are avery serious thing
to consider because they have the strength
to march in the rain . The army is shit,
and w e w on' t go voluntarily . We hope to
do an EP on P ropaganda, if they w ant us.
Our message to Finnish punks : don' t take
everything so seriously . There' s more than
w ar to sing about . " For info w rite: P auli
Someroja/ P erala/ 84100Ylivieska10/
Finland
Hi again! Since I last w rote, there hasn' t
exactly been arevolution in Denmark . But
there has been an election for parliament
w hich turned out very badly
. Things w ere
aw ful before, w hen the Social Democrats
had pow er, but its gotten w orse now since
the consevatives w on . So, let' s leave this
dreadful subject, and see w hat' s happening
in the Danish punk scene.
Never before in our young history has so
much vinyl come out at once. It' s still not
enough though . The SODS have released
SEKAANNUS
SEKAANNUS
"We play mid- tempo punk
. Religion and
people are the main themes . We' ve got
about 2 0songs at the moment . Before
summer w e hope to get an EP out, sharing
it w ith another band, MASSACRE
. It w ill
be on our ow n label . We have some gigs
lined up, so everything looks quite nice".
For info, w rite
: Sarni/ V uorenmaantie 2 2 /
34800V irrat/ Finland.
their third LP , under the name SORT SOL
( Black Sun), and it' s great and very
different. LydiaLunch sings on 2 songs.
Another band fromCopenhagen, the
w ell- know n CITY- X, have released a
4- song EP , Dansende Drenge. Unlike the
SODS, they still play punk ( not
hardcore), in amelodious and varied
manner. They are one of the oldest punk
bands, and may still be the best.
ELECTRIC DEADS, fromthe suburbs of
Copenhagen, have put out their third EP ,
Mind Bomb, w hich includes 5 very hot
songs
. They are better produced than the
earlier records, and faster ( although
poppier) . The band ow es an aw ful lot of
money, but are still intending to record
their first LP . The guitarist, Kevin, told
me they' ve changed their style, and I
guess they' ll be heavier . That' s OK w ith
me, cause Kevin is agreat guitarist . He
and J OHNNY CONCRETE ( aguy fromthe
city of Aarhus w ho puts out az ine and
more) have produced atape called
P redictions . It' s really hot stuff, though
nothing revolutionary.
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Also in Aarhus, there have benn 2 other
releases . WAR OF DESTRUCTION' s debut
EP is out, featuring 7 raw and fast songs,
w hich puts themnear the top of Danish
hardcore. The ZERO P OINT' s EP is
likew ise out on Spanrecords, and is good.
They play aslow er type of HC. More vinyl
is planned fromthis label, the next being
an EP or LP by CRAP .
The split EP by RAZOR BLADES and
FLERE DODE P ANSERE sold out fast . The
former have recorded their second EP ,
P lastic Messiah, and should be out on DK
Decay by the time you read this . It
contains 8 songs, done in abrilliant
experimental hardcore style. DK Decay w ill
also be releasing ahigh quality compilation
tape of Danish bands called A Welfare
StateIn Decay . The Boston TeaP arty
label in Albertslund have also put out a
couple of compilation tapes and are
planning more
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themc/o Fosgaarden 6 I . TH. , 2 62 0
Albertslund, Denmark.
There haven' t been alot of gigs, because
it' s too financially risky, but w e have
recently seen the BASTARDS and RATTUS
fromFinland, and M. D. C.
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w e have got most Danish punk records and
tapes for sale), send aI RC and w e' ll send
you alist. Write me, Yrsa, c/o DK Decay,
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Dear kiss of ' s, r arco here. Firs
off, I w ant to say to all the American and
foreign punks w ho w ant to get some Italian
hardcore records, that you can w rite to me
for afree list . Me and afriend distribute
most Italian records' and tapes in my city,
Milano, w hich is w here punks are areal
underground force. My address appears at
the end of the article. Also, shops that
w ant to get copies of records and tapes,
please contact me.
The punk movement and scene in Italy has
been grow ing these past 2 years, as have
the problems and fights betw een us . Now
you can see lots of skinheads w ho say
"punks are just trash" and try to be
violent . Or you can see the poseurs w ith
their new clothes fromLondon . But there
are also great things here
. Here in Milano,
tw o years ago w e opened up aclub called
V irus . , w here there are gigs every w eek.
The place is an occupied house, w here
punks live too
. We do other things out of
this club too:plan against nuclear w ar, the
army, etc . Kids come fromall over Italy to
our gigs, and w e have organiz ed 2 or 3
demonstrations too. There' s also roomfor
the bands to ractice.
ear :ologna
there sa city cal ed 'odena.
C apri isa little city near this, and there's
a club called Tuwat
. I t isalso
self-governed by punks
. And like the
Virus, the pricesare very low because we
aren't interested in making money--only
giving bandsthe opportunity tospeak,
right? Thisisvery different from the big
rock clubs, which charge very much.
Most of the punks here live at home w ith
their parents because it' s impossible to
find cheap housing here. The police are
very repressive against squatting too, so
most punks meet on the street or in pubs.
Lots of punks follow anarchist ideas, and
the first punk collective w as the Anarchist
P unk Collective of Milano, w ho made V irus.
Now there are others in cities like Bari,
Bergamo, Torino, etc . , w here punks are
meeting to unite and create places w here
they can make w hat they w ant
. Something
is grow ing now !
Here are the addresses of the most
frequently published z ines
. TV OR/ Stiv
Rottame V alli/ V iaZez io 2 8/ 2 2 100
Como. .
. Straight Edge/ Marco Lupacchini/
V iaE Carelfi 7 3/ 00168 Roma. . . Attack/
Diavlery P roductions/ V iaMocineTii19/
40136 Bologna
. Attack is run by agroup,
- cr'

o h . ve

reated a
distribution of lots of Italian and foreign
records, tapes, and z ines at very cheap
prices . . . frompunks to punks . They also
have Attack Records and have released
some EP ' s of Italian bands . Also, there' s
some punks in Torino w ho have started
their ow n label, Disforia, and have
released some tapes w ith lots of Italian.
bands at cheap prices . They too distribute
local and foreign records, and have
a z ine
called Disforiatoo.
I, along w ith
afriend, put out TV OR z ine
( w hich means "Empty Heads Broken
Bones"), and I do distribution too . Our
next dreamis to open ashop for our
things . Any American bands w ho come to
Europe and are interested in playing,
contact us at the address below , and w e' ll
organiz e some gigs in our little clubs.
At the moment, there are lots of good
bands . Some of themhave broken up
( CHELSEA HOTEL, INDIGESTI, CRASH
BOX- - my band, I sang), but others like
!,REIG have released a45 . We' ve been
w aiting for the new NABAT and P EGGIO H
P UNX EP ' s, and for the SHOTGUN
SOLUTION EP , w hich w ill be one of the
y
greatest EP ' s ever released here. Also,
there is CHEETAH CHROME
' MOTHERFUCKERS, IMP ACT, I REFUSE IT,
and many others
. WRETCHED plans to put
out anew record.
Here are afew other addresses:
V irus/ V iaCorreggio 18/ 2 0100Milano
NuovaFahrenheit z ine/ AndreaMenichini/
V iaRoma2 2 / 33049 S P ietro Al
Natisone/
Udine. ( z ine label, and distributor).
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TIJ UANA- This is arelatively small city in
Mexico, and there
are only about 50
punks .
Some are skaters, some are
straight edge,
some are skinheads ; but
that doesn' t matter because w e are all
united for three big reasons.
The first one is ANTI- SYSTEM, because
the government thinks it can decide our
future and w hat to do in the present.
That' s alot of shit because w e have brains
and can think for ourselves.
The second is ANTI- WAR, because they
kill alot of innocent people just to gain
pow er. They build more bombs, and then
sit back and laugh as w e run for cover as
they drop them.
The third reason
is w e don' t like
discrimination because w e think all the
people in the w orld are equal ( MEN,
WOMEN, BLACK, WHITE) . w e w ill accept
you for w hat you are, not how you look.
LUCION
MORTA L
good
. The fourth show w as the best
because there w ere
a lot of
Mexican- American punks there
. The crow d
had
agood
time slamming and singing
along w ith the sons.
SOLUCION MORTAL
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You' re dressed up religiou
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dressed up generou
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You don't careabout rights
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your
Power is your only

Liberty is your enemy '

securit
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A nd you'll useweapons to buy
cowardic
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Becauseof your defect,
Your system will fall
A gainst you a revoluti
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Your declinewill com e
I think more bands w ill be coming out of
Tijuana
because w e are becoming more
united. P eople on the streets are asking
us more and more w hat w e stand for, and
w hen w e tell them, they like it
. They are
mostly scared to help us, but some are
starting to, and I think alot more w ill in
the future.
If anyone w ants to trade tapes or records
or w ants to w rite, I suggest you do so at
our P . O. box across the border in the
U. S. , because the mail is faster that w ay.
Write: Desorden
Social z ine/ P . O. Box
317 5/ San Ysidro, CA 92 07 3 . Thanks,
Esteban.
P . S. This report w as w ritten afew months
ago. Since then, things have gotten
w orse. There are problems w ith the cops,
and among punks . This country is fucked
up because the police and government are
exploiting
everybody .
It' s supposed to be
democratic, but that' s not how it is . You
can' t say w hat you feel because you' ll get
arrested. Lately, there hasn' t been many
gigs,
so
w e are on the streets more. The
cops take punks to jail just for w alking
around . Also, our scene is more divided,
but I think it w ould be better if w e'
w orked as aw hole. Nothing can be
accomplished if w e are seperated.
Ultimately, it' s our problemif w e can' t talk
the problems out and try to solve them
.
More new s fromdow n south, amigos
Thank fuck LOS J ODONES have final!
broken up . Those bastards ruined many
great show s, and their stupid,
follow ers beat up many people w ho onl
i
came to have agood time
. Unfortunately,
GUERRA have also split up . LOS FEOS
so temporarily, but will regroup when
their singer returnsfrom Brasil . MUERT
have a new line-up, and now gig more
than any other band.
There have been punks in Argentinasince
' 7 8, but there w ere no bands for along
time
. The punks w ere mostly stupid,
seur, art students w ho only knew about
i
punk fromw hat they read . Around ' 7 9,
LAS IDIOTAS, DEFICIENTE MENTAL, and
DEGENERADOS
began playing, bu
1they w ere shit and all dead and forgotten
by now . LAS IDIOTAS put out
a45, but it
w s full of sexist shit . But the good new s
now is that the scene is no longer strictly
fromBuenos Aires . NINOS P ELIGROSOS
and MALA
SUERTE ' are both thrash bands
roman areacalled P anama, w hich is a
collection of industrial tow ns north of B. A.
ENCARGARSE and EL DOLOR DE CABEZA
are fromRosario ( I can understand that,
since it' s w here I' mfrom- - the most boring
lace in the w orld) . The new Buenos Aires
bands are LOS ENOJ ADOS, ENFERMO
C H I S TE, and MAMAS

TRAN QUI LO S
(the
funniest band ever) . From Guadalajara
hails

DEMONSTRACION

and

FIEBRE
( they' re as fast as any American bands,
and noisy too)
. And finally

DESORDENADO, w ho are an intense
HC
'
band fromCordoba, although they' ve been
living in B
. A. recently .
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A new place to play has opened, called La
asaDe San Gregorio, ow ned, believe it
or not, by alocal church! A lot of
Argentine priests are much more radical
i than you could imagine. A new z ine called
"e re

trong) is starting. And finally,

P ERRO COME P ERRO have not broken up,
but have moved fromP anamato B. A.
iThat' s it! I know Argentinais not exactly
ere are five bandsin Tijuana. O ne is
S O LUC I O N MO RTAL, whoare looking
for a
new drummer, and then will be playing out
again. MI N O RI A C O N C I EN TE need a
singer, and I need tobuy new drums.
There is
alsoERA RADI C AL, BLAC K
MARK ET, and P RO DUC TO P RO H I BI DO .
W e have a skat board park, but only 3
punksskate all the time, with another 5
once in a while.W e used tohave a place
for gigs, but the ownerswon't rent it out
tousanymore because they want tomake
more money . The 4showswe had were all
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series of nightmarish visions
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urderous blitz krieg of the invading
Israeli army, the seige of Beirut, the
assacre of hundreds of defenseless
alestinians in the Sabraand Shatila
efugee camps, the bleak scene as the
corpses of 2 41 U
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f the ruins of their bombed- out barracks.
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ere? Why do these haz y groups continue!
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ascinating as it is deplorable?

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rivalries

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Syria,
hings you should know about Lebanon

Israel, the P . L. O. , and the tw o super

hat w ill help you sort through the 110pow ers
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First, and most importantly, ' Lebanon'
MIN identity of the current president of
s w e know it today is purely acreation of

Lebanon, Amin Gemayel

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estern imperialism
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president loosely, for as I w rite this his

emthing you' d read in arag like

government has disintegrated and his army

aximumRock ' n Roll, but it' s true. The
rench drew up the current political
oundaries for Lebanon in 1918 . Their goal
as to carve out an easily controlled
olony fromw hat w as then know n as

P ierre Gemayel is also the founder of

reater Syria. By securing Lebanon, they _ the P halange
. Named for the Spanish
oped to control, and make money off of,

fascist movement, and patterned on the

the trade betw een Europe and the Middle

Naz i youth groups Gemayel had seen in

ast .

Germany and Italy in the 1930' s, the

To accomplish their goal, the French
inned their hopes on the rugged
hristian groups w ho had long ago
uccumbed

to Moslem

pressure and
retreated to the isolated mountains around
eirut
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ad flourished for centuries w hile all
round themthe region filled w ith Moslem
nd Druz e settlers
. The heart of their
stronghold w as know n as Mount Lebanon,
nd it w as fromthis that the modern

and Sabrarefugee camps, secure in the

olony took its name
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know ledge that they w ould murder the

But this small mountainous region by.
itself w as useless to the French . They
w anted more. So they created ' Greater
Lebanon' by annexing surrounding Moslem`
and Druz e lands ( naturally, they did this
w ithout consulting any of the people
affected by their move). These included
the coastal cities of Beirut, Sidon, Tyre,
and Tripoli, as ' w ell as large territories to
the south and east.
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inhabitants in an appropriately efficient
manner . The Gemayels, and other
Christian w arlords like them, have also
used their militias to amass huge fortunes
in the country' s vice and rackets trade.
P halange are dedicated to preserving ' the
Christian character of Lebanon . '
Much as Hitler created the myth of
"the superior Aryan race to justify the
murder of millions of J ew s, the P halange
have created an elaborate mythology that
they are the direct decendents of the
P hoenicians to justify the murder of
thousands of Moslems . It w as the P halange
militias that the Israelis let into the Shatila
is refusing to fight . Gemayel is the oldest
son of P ierre Gemayel, one of the most
pow erful and ruthless Christian w arlords
in the area.
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The seeds of destruction w ere now sow n.
Indeed, the last seventy years of almost
constant w arfare has been dominated by
the struggle of the Moslemand Druz e for
political control of their country against
the colonialists and their Christian
puppets . This internal conflict has been
With afamily history like this, it i
little w onder that Moslemgroups w ould
look upon Gemayel' s government w ith
suspicion . When he used the Lebanese
army to clear the Moslemmilitias out o
0 West Beirut, w hile virtually ignoring the
Christian militias in East Beirut thei
suspicions w ere confirmed, and they
w ithdrew their support fromhim.
There' s another basic misconception
that keeps popping up in Western pres
accounts on Lebanon . This is the myth o
the Moslem' minority . ' It' s true, there i
no single group that has amajority in the
country, but all observers w ould agre
that the Moslems as aw hole constitute w ell
over half of the population.
This is important, for Lebanon' s
government is stacked in favor of th
Christians because they claimto still be in
the majority . Since they haven' t allow ed a
accurate census to be taken in the country
since the
1930' s, political representation i
still based on this assumption . For this
reason, aChristian alw ays holds th
presidency, w hile in parliament th
Christians hold six seats for every fiv
held by Moslems . Moslems do hol
government positions ( the P rime Minister is
alw ays aMoslem), but the Christians keep
the real pow er.
The primary pow er behind th
Christian' s control of the coutnry rests i
the West ; specifically France and th
United States
. The French occupied th
country until 1946, and since then th
United States has inherited the colonialist'
role.
In the
1950' s, for example, the CIA
financed the election of P resident Chamoun
w ith the excuse that he w ould help the
fight communism
. In May 1958, the Moslems
rose up against Chamoun
. Their rebellion
started strongly . Soon they held Beirut,
Tripoli, Sidon, and the northern Bekaa
V alley
. Chamoun called to the United
States, and Eisenhow er responded by
sending in 12 , 000marines to
' re- establish
the authority of the government . ' The
revolt w as put dow n.
The situation w as summed up w ell by
aretired U. S. diplomat . "Chamoun diddled
us
. 1958 w as really aLebanese revolution.
By sending in the Marines w e blocked the
natural developments w hich involved giving
the Moslems agreater voice in politics . "
When Israel invaded Lebanon in J une
of 1982 their goal w as virtually the same: ,
to

set

up a

right

w ing

Christian
government that they could dominate. And,
w ith the help of U. S. diplomacy, they
almost succeeded.
Now , once again, the Moslems are on
the verge of gaining political control of
Lebanon, or at least the burnt- out shell of
w hat w as once Lebanon.
For political reason, Reagan has
already decided to pull the Marines out of
Beirut until his re- election is assured . He
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time that the majority of Lebanon's
population have more political power . By
interfering with their attemptstotake
control of their country we are only
assuring that when they inevitably dogain
control, their revolution will be violently
anti-U.S .
As history has show n again and again
in places like Cyprus, Iran,
and V iet Nam,
the legacy of Western colonialismis chaos.
Washington continues to view local
struggles for independence and justice as
East/West clashes, and refuses to see the
damage done to the grow th of indigenous
institutions by Western meddling
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time that w e keep our hands off
Lebanon
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AMERICAN SOCIAL HOLOCAUST - "New Alliances" cassette
This is aw ell- produced demo by agroup w ho w ere once
called FUTURE RUIN
. It' s no instant classic, but there are
certain tw ists here that make for enjoyable listening
. They' ve
got potential, and the tape is w ell w orth the "price
. " ( TY)
( S. A . S
. E. to J . White- - 7 38 Ruth Dr
. - - P leasant Hill, CA 9452 3)
ARCATA BOYS CHOIR - "Drug Free Youth" cassette
Musical absurdity fromsome w ild northern Californians.
Record some characters w ho are trying for that NEOS sound in
their living room, and you' ll have the basic idea
. Completely
incoherent garage thrash, more experimental than listenable,
though some of the lyrics are w orth hearing
. ( J B)
( $1
. 2 5 to Bob Magee- - 1935 "H" St
. , apt
. 8B- - Arcata, CA 9552 1)
A . W. O. L
. - cassette
A fairly original 15- song demo w ith some good musicianship,
fairly non- standard structures, and really gruff vocals
. Most of
the tempos are medium- to medium- fast
. ( TY)
( $1 to 33 Brook Dr
. - - Hershey, P A 17 633)
BAD P OSTURE - "Get Tough" 12 " EP
The eight tracks on this release show case BAD P OSTURE' s
hysterical brand of aggressive funnypunk to its best
advantage
. The title song and "Time for Smack" are good
examples of this band' s abrasive, mid- to fast tempo hardcore
assault, and w hile I admire their on- target lyric sense, the
song structures could use more catchiness and originality as a
rule
. Nonetheless, there are some nice, gravelly vocals on this
entertaining disc, so give it alisten
. ( SS)
( Church of Tw eak- - 17 0East 2 nd St
. #2 8- - New
York, NY 10009)
BLIGHT - "The Dreamw as Dead" EP
The long- aw aited release by an inactive band featuring Steve
Miller- - ex- FIX guitarist- - and dear of Tesco ( MEATMEN),
getting dow n and dirty in aslow , noisy, art- damaged,
and- - dare I suggest- - FLIP P ERish drone w ith the purity of true
nihilists
. I find it alittle refreshing in amusical sense, and a
fine w ay to start my day if I don' t w ant to get out of bed.
( RS)
( Touch & Go- - P . O
. Box 7 1b- - Maumee, OH 43537 )
BORSCHT - "P rimitive Borscht" cassette
Nine songs in amelodic thrash mold that' s more reminiscent
of certain So Cal bands like the ADOLESCENTS than the East
coast approach
. Musically, it' s really tight and fairly z esty, and
the lyrics are also generally coherent ( though there are
occasional examples of retardo stuff, both intentional and
unintentional) . ( TY)
( $3 to Borscht- - 95 S
. MagnoliaSt . - - P earl River, NY 10965)
BREAKOUTS - "No More" 12 " EP
This should have been review ed tw o issues ago, but w e
bungled somehow . Sorry . In any case, the new BREAKOUTS
line- up, w ith its incredible double- guitar pow er, is far superior
to all their earlier incarnations . The material here includes
hook- filled mini- classics ( like the title track and "Trouble"),
chunky thrashers ( like "J oin Me Don' t J oin Me"), and even a
loud quasi- experimental number ( "B
. D. A. ") . Many of the
arrangements are terrific, the production is unusually strong,
the lyrics are timely, and the overall effect is uplifting and
engaging . ( J B)
( Acclerator- - 1039A P age St
. - - San Francisco, CA 94117 )
BURNT - "The M. P . " EP
P rimitive mid- to fast- paced punk w ith agarage aesthetic
and some fetching guitar parts can be found on this debut
. The
production is uneven at best, and the music is occasionally
sloppy, but the BURNT display enough enthusiasmto make up
for these shortcomings . "Industrial Accident" is aminor classic,
due in part to an amaz ingly cool chorus
. ( J B)
( Mutha
; w rite to Burnt- - 47 Myrtle Ave. - - Midland P ark, NJ
07 432 )
CONFEDERATE - Surrender or J ust Fight LP
Some classic So Cal sounds are captured on CONFEDERATE' s
debut album
. With its melodic guitars and songs, multi- tracked
vocals, and fine production ( courtesy of ex- ADOLESCENT Rikk
Agnew ), the listener is treated to anon- innovative but
enjoyable release, not unlike the V ANDALS' debut
. ( TY)
( Revenge- - P . O
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CONDEMNED TO DEATH - "D- Day" EP
I like C2 D because they epitomiz e the late S
. F. "vat" soul.
Here, they offer six ripping semi- thrash numbers that are real
spirited
. The songs are good and rousing, but they constantly
remind me of other bands
. Still, it' s hard not to like them.
( RS)
( c/o Angie Mima- - 312 Guerrero- - San Francisco, CA 94103)
DICKS - "P eace?" EP
Here are three ditties that rouse all the "protest and
survive" sentiments you might need
. "No Fuckin' War" is a
slow , grueling masterpiece that' s simple but pow erful, and w ill
have you singing along before the end
. The other songs are
short, quickly- delivered minor chord headbangers in the best of
the new DICKS style
. I especially like "I Hope You get
Drafted," an unrelenting anti- stupidity song directed at
"apolitical" punks, w hich I' d like to see being sung in streets,
busses, and homes all over the w orld
. Somebody finally had the
guts to come right out and say it
. ( RS)
( Dicks- - P
. O
. Box 42 5- - San Francisco, CA 94101- 042 5)
DECRY - "Symptoms of Hate" EP
A proficient debut EP fromthis L
. A. band. The lyrics are
thoughtful, the production is good, and the delivery is fast,
but they tend to reduce the songs to aformulaby throw ing in
similar breaks and changes of tempo w hich confuse me.
Although they show potential, it needs to be developed
. Not
bad. ( RS)
( Insane Industries- - P
. O. Box 32 7 2 - - Arcadia, CA 91006)
DICKIES - "Stukas over Disneyland" 12 " EP
The DICKIES' first vinyl in almost four years ranks up there
near their previous funnypunk triumphs
. Most of the eight
songs here veer tow ard amphetamine pop, w ith irresistable
layered choruses to boot, but the highlights include the
poppish "
Rosemary", "
She' s aHunchback", and an incredibly
fast cover of LED ZEP ' s
"
Communication Breakdow n
. " Buoyant
and entertaining as hell! ( SS)
( Dickies/P V C)
DON' T NO - "No is All He Know s" cassette
This is apretty good thrash debut . While DON' T NO don' t
break any new ground, they do have snap
. The drumming and
bass playing are hot, the vocals have back- ups, and the lyrics
are pretty sharp, w ith adefinite straight- edge bent to them.
( TV )
( Albee- - 2 2 09 Superior Ave. - - V enice, CA 902 91)
HOLLYWOOD AUTOP SY -
1960' s
Hipp LP
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corpse, and rise ( barely) above the basement
. Enter the ghost
of the 13th FLOOR ELEV ATORS, and you have it
. These guys
prove that Sky Saxon is dead! ( TY)
( $5 to H
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07 307 )
I
K N UC K LEH EADS -"Destroy Discipline" cassette
The K N UC K LEH EADS offer mostly mid-tempothrash with
metal influences
. Again,

there'snothing new here--it's

well-done but predictable, including the themes
. But again,
given where they come from, it'sprobably not at all predictable
and generic
. (TY)
(705 Dearholt Rd
.--Madison, W I 53711)
MEN TAL C RI S I S -"Rulesof C onduct" cassette
A gut- punching guitar yields asonic storming of galloping
action
. Young, unyielding aggression pumps out some fast
mayhemw hich crosses into dreary slow tempos, then pushes
back in full maniac fashion
. Reminiscent of early 7 SECONDS,
this Missouri outfit needs to grow w ith the sound they are
establishing
. The enthusiasmand punch is strong, and there' s
adiz z ying barrage of splashing melodies, but the unoriginal
drumming needs its ow n style
. MENTAL CRISIS could be a
potential menace
. ( P us)
( 8959 E
. 83rd Terrace- - Raytow n, MO 64138)
D . R. I . - " V iolent P acification" EP
By now , everyone should know that D. R . I
. are one of the
fastest, tightest, and most pow erful thrash bands in history,
and their new EP is atotal killer
. The title cut is abit slow
for themin parts, but Te
rest are faster than the speed of
sound
. If these guys aren' t intense enough for you, try
pulling
your teeth out w ith apair of pliers
. Aw esome. ( J B)
( R Radical- - 2 44016th St
. #130- - San Francisco, CA 94103)
FAITH - "
Subject to Change" 12 " EP
What can I say? Wherever MINOR THREAT left off, FAITH
might be able to step in . Even though I
w orry that they might
be too much of asound- alike, they' re cool
. They play fast
songs, slow er songs, and songs w ith shifting tempos, to w hich
they add interesting studio bits, alot of spirit and energy,
and sincere discussions about the day- to- day aspects of their
lives . Could become aclassic
. ( RS)
MISSION FOR CHRIST - "Tw o J ew s, aBlack, aWoman, and a
Cripple" cassette
This is agreat band in the abrasive experimental punk vein.
Loud guitars, heavy drumming, and interesting rhythms bring
groups like NO TREND to mind, but these guys are definitely
original
. Aw are lyrics and acouple of fast blasts add further
firew orks, so send aw ay for this today
. ( J B)
( $3 . 50to 1448 Sheridan St NW- - Wash, DC 2 0011)
MR . EP P & THE CALCULATIONS - "Live as all Get Out" cass
A 2 6- song live collection that' s real nifty . Whether
FLIP P ERish noise stuff or MEATMEN- like garage semi- thrash,
its all pow erful, intelligent, and biting
. The sound quality
varies fromtrack to track, but for lovers of feedback, it' s
perfect
. Recommended . ( TY)
( Deux ex Machina- - P . O. Box 85811- - Seattle, WA 98105)
( Dischord- - 3819 Beecher St
. N. W. - - Washington, D
. C. 2 0007 )
FATAL V ISION - "Zeitgeist" cassette
FATAL V ISION performdecent basic thrash, but w riting
lyrics is their real strong point- - the themes of alienation and
manipulation are handled w ith far more sensitivity and
sophistication than one normally finds
. The music could benefit
fromfurther development, though "The Grass and Sheep Saga"
is an outstanding track . ( J B)
FINAL CONFLICT - "In the Family" EP
This 4- track effort presents thrash of screaming intensity
and instrumental punch, addressing themes of teenage angst
and rebellion . FINAL CONFLICT are particularly adept at
compositions w ith dramatic yet subtle changes of pace, like the
title song and the clever steamroller, "Self- Defeated . " Heartfelt,
riveting, and therefore highly recommended. ( SS)
( Reflex- - Box 8646- - Minneapolis, MN 55408)
HATED P RINCIP LES - "The Curse of P rince Hated" EP
HATED P RINCIP LES' song structures may not be as
provocative as they really should on this 5- song debut EP , but
their lyric sentiments and engaging sense of humor add spunk
to this effort
. "Burn those Churches" has asatiric outrage
w orthy of G
. G
. ALLIN, as w ell as aw elcome thrashy pow er,
w hile the other compositions mine equally nasty concerns w ith
less musical aplomb
. ( SS)
( Gothic Gospel- - P
. O
. Box 2 5B13- - L. A
. , CA 9002 5)
HUNTING LODGE - "Night fromNight/Untitled"
The rhythmic, discordant compositions on this single plumb
the same nether regions of industrial music as S
. P . K. , but w ith
more insistent repetitiveness
. Both tracks here follow in the
same path as the band' s Will LP , and w hile there are no
revelations, the music is solid and often quite hypnotic
. ( SS)
( S/M Operations- - Box 12 82 - - P ort Huron, MI 48060)
MURP HY '
S LAW - "Bong Blast" cassette
Some real silliness fromthis New York outfit
. Musically, it
consists of thrash, punk, metal, and reggae all throw n together
in ahumorous w ay
. Lyrically, I w ouldn '
t w ant to think that
these guys are serious, because the ideas are even more goofy
than the instrumental arrangements
. ( TV )
( J
. Gestapo- - 2 3- 05 33 Road- - Astoria, NY 11106)
NEGATIV E ELEMENT - "Gone Fishing" cassette
Forty- five- - count ' em- - forty- five songs are on this tape,
probably this Chicago band' s entire repertoire
. Unfortunately,
you can' t really hear too much because of the sound quality,
mostly live and garage tracks that are almost buried beneath
the rumble
. You can barely hear some cool shit going on, but
this one' s more of an artifact . ( TY)
( B. Stepe- - 104 Greenbriar Ct
. - - E. P eoria, IL 61611)
OUTERWEAR - "Outerw ear Limits" cassette
OUTERWEAR mainly present slow er, metallish thrash w ith
lyrics that strain to cover the irrelevant
. It looks as if these
stimulus- starved Ohioans did too much L
. S. D
. Over the course
of tw enty- four songs, they screamand slither their w ay into
the sicker corners of your heart
. Outtasight
. ( TV )
( New Hope- - 2 7 2 9 Shelley Rd
. - - Shaker Heights, OH 4412 2 )
NEGATIV E AP P ROACH - Tied Dow n LP
I
($3 toJ. Earing--Unsound Music--P
.O . Box216--C entreport,

ThisN EGATI VE AP P RO AC H album hasa slicker and much

NY 117 2 1) more pow erful sound than their debut EP , but their music still
has that blend of rousing thrash and Oi choruses w hich makes
you w ant to sing along
. The gruff vocals are distinctive, the
lyrics are unexpectedly decent, and many of the songs are
strong ( including thrashers like "Live your Life" and the title
cut, and tension- builders such as the re- recorded version of
"Nothing")
. Although there are also acouple of losers ( like the
heavy metallish "Evacuate"), this is avery good record overall.
( J B & RS)
( Touch & Go)
OTTO' S CHEMICAL LOUNGE - "Fire" EP
The new OTTO' S 7 " substitutes amuch harder, almost
punky attack for their earlier art- damaged approach
. Here, the
guitars are psychedeliciz ed and alot louder, and the song
structures are basic and consistent enough to allow the listener
to adjust to them. In sum, an interesting experimental punk
release w ith some psych and funk qualities, not to mention a
charged HENDRIX cover . ( J B)
( Reflex- - Box 8646- - Minneapolis, MN 55408)
P LAIN WRAP - "Time to Change" cassette
P LAIN WRAP play tight, trebly, frantic thrash and punk
w ith melodies . They remind me alittle of the O. K. ' s, both
musically and in the narratives, w hich sometimes are more like
tales . An excellent beginning, so look out for them. ( TY)
( 6531 Abbott Dr
. - - Huntington Beach, CA 92 647 )
P RIMER GREY - "Evil Eyes" cassette
An 8- cut demo fromstill another young thrash outfit
. It' s a
bit generic and sloppy, as it seems to be alive recording, but
remember that they' re fromBakersfield ( home of MERLE
HAGGARD), w hich is enough reason to support these lads.
Actually, there are some sparks of originality- - "Hey You" has a
certain FEEDERZfeel- - so give themtime . ( TY)
( 2 612 Courteigh- - Bakersfield, CA 93309)
P RIV ATE OUTRAGE - "Life and P roduction" cassette
A budding original approach fromthis new band ( see N
. Cal
scene report for more info)
. They combine certain aspects of
the early GERMS sound w ith garage and post- punk qualities,
and have interesting lyrics
. It should be fun to w atch them
grow . ( TY)
( 44 W
. Bellevue- - San Mateo, CA 94402 )
P UKES - "Macho" cassette
With aname like this, it' s gottabe "punk rock," right?
Right! It' s like aflashback to ' 7 8 or something, w hich can be
both fun and abit tedious . The P UKES have an American style
of early punk- - slow , garagey, and sometimes silly . The cool
part lies in being able to hear the snarly lyrics that jump all
over jocks, patriots, and parents in asarcastic manner . ( TY)
( $3 to Weegie- - 300Eliseo Dr . - - Greenbrae, CA 94904)
SLUGGO - "Contradiction" EP
TARGET OF DEMAND - "Man' s Ruin" 12 " EP
This new Long Beach hardcore group seems to have been
influenced quite abit by D. R
. I . The comparison shouldn' t be
exaggerated, how ever, because T
. O. D. add characteristic So
Cal hooks to their intense thrash attack, and the results are
startlingly good
. Of the songs, "The P oor Rich" takes apotshot
at w ealthy Malibu residents endangered by mudslides, and
"J udgement" and "P lastic Bullets" are particularly savage and to
the point thematically . Q uintessential American 80' s thrash.
( J B)
( $4
. 50to Spitw inkle Music- - Box 3554- - Bellflow er, CA 907 06)
TESCO V EE - "Dutch Hercules" 12 " EP
Well, the new est T. V . affair is predictably centered around
"offensive" themes, including satires dealing w ith lesbians
( "Lesbian Death Dirge"), television evangelists ( "God' s
Bullies"), heavy metal goons ( "Wine, Wenches, and Wheels"),
New Wave dance trendies ( SLY' s "Dance to the Music"), and the
rap phenomenon ( "Crapper' s Delight"). The latter three cuts
feature music related to their respective themes, w hereas the
first tw o have more of agaragey MEATMEN approach.
Entertaining as all get out! ( J B)
( Touch & Go)
A nifty new thrash band fromthe Midw est . Their most
noticeable characteristic is avocal style that sounds alternately
like the CIRCLE J ERKS ( "Figure it Out"), 7 SECONDS ( "Erase
the Thought"), or MINOR THREAT ( "Too Bad") . The music is
sloppy but exuberant, the production is suitably primitive, and
the themes sometimes make you stop and reflect ( especially in
the title cut and "Up and Over")
. Recommended . ( J B)
( $2 . 50to Shag Dog- - 1314 Ault V iew Ave. - - Cincinnati, OH
452 08)
SP IKE IN V AIN - Diseaseis Relative LP
These guys have an angular, experimental sound w ith
hardcore feeling
. The vocals are nasty and they' ve got afew
faster straightforw ard tunes ( like "Dear Departed"), but in
general they rely on too many time changes and aw kw ard
structural shifts for my gut- level taste. I listened to it at 3 :00
AM, so don' t take my w ord for it . Find out for yourself . ( J B)
( Trans Dada- - 3316 Elsmerse Rd
. - - Shaker Heights, OH 4412 0)
SONIC YOUTH - "Kill yr Idols" 12 " EP
We fucked up by not review ing their recent U
. S. release, so
here' s one of the European debut of this New York combo.
They' re sort of arefreshing throw back to the "No Wave" erain
N
. Y . C. , especially in the singing and guitar parts, but they' ve
infused it w ith certain English- or German- style post- punk
constructions
. It all adds up to "art w ith an edge. " Lyle H' s
fave. ( TY)
( Zensor- - Grossbeerenstrasse 88- - D- 1000Berlin 61- - W. GER)
V ARIOUS ARTISTS - "Birth Defect" cassette
An excellent compilation tape that takes ahot cut or so from
many bands w e' ve review ed separately in MRR
. Included are the
OUTP ATIENTS, N. O
. T. A . , P SYCHO, ZEDDEFER, C. O
. C. ,
the LEP ERS, NO LABELS, N . J . F
. , MOX NIX, the NILS,
S. U. M
. , V IOLATION, RIGHT GUARD, EAT THE RICH, the
MONEY DOGS, YOUTH KORP S, and the ACCELERATORS
. ( TY)
( $4 . 50to J . Hunting- - 5417 Morgan Ave
. So. - - Minneapolis, MN
55419
V ARIOUS ARTISTS - Something to Believe In LP
YOUTH BRIGADE pay some homage to their native land by
including many excellent Canadian bands ( the NILS, Y . Y . Y . ,
the UNWANTED, S. N . F. U. , P ERSONALITY CRISIS, the YOUNG
LIONS, ZEROP TION, the STRETCH MARKS, and D. O. A . ) on
this collection, as w ell as some L . A . new comers ( RIGOR
MORTIS, the TOURISTS) and veterans like the BIG BOYS, 7
SECONDS, KRAUT, CH3, and themselves . A good sampling.
( TY)
YOU SUCK - "You Suck Chant/Get . . . Off . . . Stage" EP
A bogus honky disco band w hose sole claimto fame is that
they are hated . That explains Mykel Board' s interest, although
after listening i can understand w hy no one liked them. For
novelty collectors . ( J B)
( Seidboard World Enterprises- - 7 5 Bleecker St . - - N. Y. , NY
10012 )
V ARIOUS ARTISTS - "Noise fromthe Garage" cassette
A compendiumof old and new Monterey- areabands . Different
styles of punk are represented here, but raw thrash and
garagey metal punk predominate
. The recording quality is
generally poor, making this more of an historical document than
alistening pleasure, w hich is perhaps to be expected . The
groups include FALSE ALARM, ( another) C
. I . A . , P UBLIC
P ROBLEM, DON' T NO, E
. O. T. W. , ( another) KENT STATE,
( another) DEP RESSION, and the ever- lovable BIOHAZARD
. ( J B)
( $3 to XXX- - 506 Forest Ave. - - P acific Grove, CA
93950)
Y DI - "A P lace in the Sun" EP
Y DI continue to display , areal intense thrash attack on
their first solo release
. Stylistically, they don' t break any new
ground, but they' ve got ashitload of raw pow er and
supercharged energy . Some of the songs are straightforw ard
and manic ( like the great "Friends"), some have an alternating
slow /fast structure ( like "Out for Blood"), and acouple are
slow er ( like "Another Day"). P retty impressive. ( J B)
(Blood Bubble--P .O . Box805--P hiladelphia, P A 19105)
U. K. U. K. U. K. U. K. U. K.
U. K.
BROKEN BONES - "Decapitated" EP
This scion fromthe DISCHARGE family tree performs highly
metallic, fast- tempo hardcore w ith considerable abandon, and
provides some moments of blistering intensity . Aside fromthe
tasty bass guitar licks on "P roblem," how ever, the three songs
on this EP ow e agreat deal more to strong production than
distinctive songw riting . BROKEN BONES fail to innovate w ith
this release. ( SS)
( Scarlet/Fallout)
COCK SP ARRER - Shock Troops LP
After hearing the first three cuts on Side A, w ith their
punchy mid- tempo attack, melodic high- pow ered guitars, and
uplifting choruses, I w as on the verge of raving about the
survival of COCK SP ARRER in top form
. But despite the
greatness of these songs ( one of w hich- - "Where are they
Now "- - is ablistering critique of the punks of ' 7 7 ), and one
interesting track w ith apronounced KINKSish feel ( "Out on an
Island"), the rest of the albumslides into more pedestrian rock
' n' roily material
. ( J B)
( Raz or)
CRASS - "You' re already Dead" EP
Although nobody could respect CRASS' political
efforts more,
I no longer have any desire to listen to their annoying music.
It' s not that I object to bands experimenting in principle, but
in practice I like to hear fast, raw stuff w ith aprimal beat,
and CRASS rarely provide it these days
. Despite some intense
moments and an out- of- character guitar solo ( !), this EP
doesn' t quite click . ( J B)
( Crass)
CROWBAR - "Hippie P unks/White Riot"
CROWBAR are an amaz ingly dumb new Oi band
. "Hippie
P unks" is areactionary diatribe against punks w ho are sensible
enough to oppose militarismand jingoism, and the CLASH cover
undoubtedly takes on aright- w ing coloration in this imbecilic
context
. So pathetic that it' s dow nright laughable
. ( J B)
( Skin Head)
DESTRUCTORS - "T
. V . Eye" EP
Yechh! I' ve already been put
off
by the many recent
releases of recycled DESTRUCTORS material
. But I can' t abide
this new line- up ( minus old singer Neil), w hich has regressed
to the point of playing thoroughly boring Rock
. If this is their
bid for commercial success, they deserve to fall flat on their
short- sighted faces
. Garbage. ( J B)
( Criminal Damage)
GENOCIDE ASSOCIATION - "Sonik Lobotomy" cassette
An amaz ing 105- track demo that sharply hauls forth w ild
typhoon madness in incredible bounds
. This w ould be agigantic
English thrash express, but w ith very close listenings, I
noticed that some of the music w asn' t even theirs! A lot of your
faves are here- - B
. G. K. , TERV EET KADET, CRUDE S. S. ,
GANG GREEN, and more- - overdubbed w ith GENOCIDE
ASSOCIATION' s exhilarating lyrics and vocal tracks
. It sounds
great, but I don' t think this is fair to the bands w ho made the
music, do you? ( P us)
( 13

Manesty

Crescent- - Clifton- - Nottingham

NG11
9DT- - ENGLAND)
INSANE /SKEP TIX - [split] EP
A good double- billed . 7 " . The INSANE offer amid- tempo
number w ith aw all of guitars and agreat singalong chorus
; the
SKEP TIX' cut alternates betw een slow - building parts and
thrash . Worthy material and hot production make this aw inner.
( J B)
( White Rose)
LOST CHERREES - "A Man' s Duty . . . . A Woman' s P lace" EP
This band is obviously w ell- meaning, and I share their
fundamental values, but their music doesn' t alw ays grab me. To
be honest, the entire CRASS- inspired quasi- experimental
approach to punk is starting to seemmore and more pretentious
and self- indulgent, especially in the hands of their many
imitators
. Both parts of "Sexisms Suck" have enough drive to
hold my interest, though . ( J B)
( Mortarhate- - P . O. Box 448- - Eltham- - London SE9- - ENGLAND)
MAU MAUS - Live at the Marples LP
Here' s abudget- priced live albumw ith at least sixteen
tracks and aw hole booklet w ith every fact you' d ever w ant to
know about the MAU MAUS
. The quality is definitely live,
w hich they apologiz e for on the sleeve, but it' s got the energy
that every live recording should have. This band is one of the
first English bands to be inspired by U
. S. thrash, and they' re
still good, though at this point somew hat ordinary . Regardless,
if you like pow erful punk, this is agood deal . ( RS)
( P ax- - P . O. Box 3- - Sheffield- - ENGLAND)
GUANA BATZ- "You' re So Fine" EP
Somew hat tame psychobilly, sort of apoor man' s METEORS.
Actually, it' s on the same label, w hich caters to offbeat 50' s-
and 60' s- sounding psych bands
. The GUANA BATZdo play
some tw angy surf guitar, though
. ( J B & TY)
( Big Beat- - 132 - 4 Grafton Rd
. - - London NW5- - ENGLAND)
MARCH V IOLETS - "Snake Dance/Slow Drip Liz ard"
A superior post- punk- - or is it "positive punk"- - record from
England' s MARCH V IOLETS. They' ve got an innovative guitar
style, and aknack for w riting rhythmic, uptempo songs w ith
interesting structures
. "Snake Dance" is an exceptional tune
not equalled by the flip . ( J B)
P OISON GIRLS - , Seven Year Scratch double LP
This tw o- albumset rates as agood value for those w ho
enjoy the socially conscious and unusual pop stylings of the
P OISON GIRLS
. Album1 combines unreleased and classic P
. G.
material, some of it out of print for years, w hile the other disc
contains live tracks fromanumber of vintage concerts
. As a
retrospective, Seven Year Scratch show s the P OISON GIRLS'
original music- making off superbly, and I' msure that fans of
both punk and pop w ill find much of value in this document.
( SS)
( Xntrix) SOLDIER DOLLS - "What do they Know ?" EP
Three songs w hose high points are the often dissonant,
fuz z y guitar leads
. The rest is nothing new , just fairly
fast- paced punk w ith good production
. Like I said, the guitar
w ork is the SOLDIER DOLLS' strength, and hopefully they' ll
accentuate it even more in future releases
. ( TY)
( Scream- - 2 Meredith Rd
. - - Tremorfa, Cardiff CF2 2 SX- - WALES)
P ROTEST - "V inyl Overload" EP
Skunking punk that chants, how ls, and w hines
. In
"Oppressed," ahaunting bass line echoes in the foreground as
aw hipping guitar cry plucks distorted noise in an early GANG
OF FOUR- meets- 0i fashion, avery sharp arrangement w ith
chomping drumspatters
. It' s been aw hile since P ROTEST have
had avinyl release, and w ith these singalongs and foot
stompers, they come out sounding like avery mature SHAM 69
or COCKNEY REJ ECTS
. An enjoyable dose of difference
. ( P us)
( X- centric- - 17

West

End

Rd. - - Cottingham- - North

Humberside- - HU16 5P L- - ENGLAND)
RIOT SQ UAD - "No Solution/Government Schemes"
This new RIOT SQ UAD record is in the predictable Britpunk
tradition, but the damn thing sounds real good anyw ay
. "No
Solution" hits the mark due to its simple but classy chorus,
w hile the flip relies more on speed
. Both are improved
drastically by aloud- as- fuck drummix . ( J B)
( Rot)
SCREAMING DEAD - "P aint it Black/Warriors"
A slightly disappointing follow - up to their great recent 12 ".
The A- side is apassable but unnecessary cover of the old
STONES classic
; the choice flip has fantastic back- up vocals
that remind me of the early SKIDS
. The band' s guitar w ork is
also as brilliant as ever, so axe aficionados should seek out this
45 . ( J B)
( No Future)
UP ROAR - "Nothing can Stop You" EP
The third 7 " fromUP ROAR isn' t bad, it just goes in one ear
and out the other
. It has great production, good lyrics, and I
really like the song Your Empire," but it sounds like amillion
other English punk records
. ( RS)
( V olume- - 30Ridley P l
. - - New castle upon Tyne- - ENGLAND)
V ARIOUS ARTISTS - "Reality P arade" cassette
This provocative tape contains material fromavariety of
political English punk bands
. Although the sound quality varies
the
( sometimes

fromcut to cut, the

by
th
( someti mes the INFECTED,

THE FITS provide

e
enough

the NFECTED, and esentAan

effective cross- sec
tion
enough moments of interest to p
of British underground music
. ( SS)Rd

Dyson

Hill_- Hon
ley ,
( Retaliation- - 55

Thirstin
H
uddersfield- - Y
orkshire- - ENGLAND)
V ARUKERS - "Led to the Slaughter" EP
Flailing guitars, atight rhythmsection, and choruses that
stick in your head combine to make this new V ARUKERS EP a
stellar release. Every song hits you over the head, so snap
this sucker up . ( J B)
This 6- track EP by aveteran skunk outfit fails to
generate much in the w ay of interesting songw riting or
forcefulness
. While "The Revolution Will Come" rates moderately
w ell for some tasty riffing and snippets of melody, the rest of
the compositions here seemrather generic, and the lyrics are
especially unchallenging
. All in all, tiresome. ( SS)
( No Future)
WORLD WORLD .
WORLD WORLD WORLD WORLD
WORLD WORLD WORLD
AKUTT INNLEGGELSE - "S6ppel" cassette
This young Norw egian band originally intended to put out an
EP , but they w eren' t completely satisfied w ith it . Here, they
sound fine to me. The vocals and guitar kick, and the rhythm
ain' t bad either. AKUTT INNLEGGELSE w ill soon become one of
the many startlingly hot Scandinavian groups, in my opinion.
( TY)
( T. Seltz er- - Dalbovei 12 - - 1458 Fjellstrand- - NORWAY)
BOX OF FISH - "Sex Cat Killer/Erosion"
On this Australian post- punk release, anoisy fuz z guitar
overlays heavy bass and drumrhythms, thereby setting an
ominous tone
. While it may be abit repititious, there' s
definitely some original ideas here
. ( TY)
( Method, no address)
CITY- X - "Dansende Drenge" EP
Another diverse effort by CITY- X
. Their new EP contains a
pair of aw kw ard post- punk numbers ( the title song and
"Gnister") and acouple of punkier jams
. Even the latter are
much more unusual than the standard punk offering, so those
w ith broad taste may find favor w ith this Danish outfit
. ( J B)
( Irmgardz - - Helsingborgade 13- - DK 2 100Copenhagen- - DENMARK)
BLITZKRIEG - Complete Disarmament LP
This is aDutch anarchist band that' s been strongly
influenced by the approach of their cousins across the English
channel, but they' ve also added some American- type thrash in a
few songs
. Each track is in adifferent style, and some are
quite innovative, though most are derivative
. I personally enjoy
listening to this w ell- executed and w ell- meaning album
. Still, I
can only give it a"not bad" rating, so check it out for
yourself . ( RS)
( Manikaal, no address)
DESTRUCKTIONS - V ox P opuli LP
Like AP P ENDIX, the DESTRUCKTIONS combine diverse
influences and come up w ith avaried and distinctive hardcore
sound
. Fromfull- tilt thrash w ith hooks ( like "A Tale of the End
of the World") to fast melodic punk ( like "Suicide") to tense
metallic build- ups ( like
"
What Does it Matter?"
) to memorable
amalgams of all of the above ( like "Do Something
"
), this album
kicks ass
. Highly recommended for imaginative arrangements
and great drumming . ( J B)
( P ropaganda
; pressed by Rock- O- Rama)
DEP RESSION - "Money Chain" EP

J ERK WARD - "Inside my Mind" cassette

DEP RESSION' s virgin vinyl reveals ashift fromthe metallic
thrash of their demo cassette to aslow er, more grinding Metal
attack
. The tempos are mostly slow and steady, the guitar leads
are prominent, the lyrics are excellent, and the overall sound
is very English . "World Leaders" is the fastest, most appealing
cut . ( J B)
( Reactor- - P
. O.

Box

62 3- - Camberw ell,

V ictoria- - 312 4
AUSTRALIA)
A new release that exemplifies D. O. A . ' s movement tow ard
traditional rock music ( at least on record). The A- side is an
appeal to people to stand up for their rights and join in a
general strike, reflecting the mood in British Columbiain
November of ' 83 .

Its set to music that "sounds like

FOREIGNER," according to afamous friend of ours . The B- side

K . G. B. - "Treblinka/Luftw affe"
is that aw ful SINATRA song. Enough said
. ( TY)
( Sudden Death- - P . O. Box 65896, Station F- - V ancouver, B. C. - -
CANADA)
ELECTRIC DEADS - "Mind Bomb" EP
Another hot EP fromDenmark' s ELECTRIC DEADS
. Their
earlier speedballs have given w ay to even faster blasts, but
w ithout sacrificing their most unique characteristics- - a
screaming fuz z ed- out guitar, and highly- distinctive female vocal
styling
. I' mso impressed that the redone version of "Fish in a
P ool" w ill appear on MRR' s forthcoming
" 1984" compilation
. ( J B)
( Electro- Static, dist
. by No Aarhus)
ERIC HYSTERIC - "Fool Around/I WannaBe aKid Forever"
More garage grunge fromMr
. HYSTERIC. A couple of noisy,
almost poppy songs appear here, the best of w hich is "Wanna
Be aKid," w ith its cool background vocals, luz z y guitar,
uptempo approach, and lyrics that I can totally identify w ith.
For SHAGGS and old T. V . P ERSONALITIES fans
. ( J B)
( Wasted V inyl- - Obertorstrasse 6- - D- 62 93 Lohnberg- - W
. GER)
An old- style punk release fromHolland w ith achunky guitar
and agaragey feel . "Zw art Geld" has the slow est tempo of the
bunch, "Hollandse Signaal" sounds almost exactly like Texas
band AK- 47 ' s "The Badge Means you Suck," and "Wie speelt . . . "
is arelatively fast, driving number w ith some pow erful
double- guitar w ork . Good, but not exactly "glorious . "( J B)
( Holland' s Glorie- - P ostbus 84194- - Den Haag- - NETHERLANDS)
KIDNAP - "II faudrabien qu' un jour tout change" EP
The first solo release fromthis great French band is
somew hat uneven in quality . The title song is almost as
tremendous as "No S
. S. " fromthe Apocalypse compilation, and
"Sympales gros bras" approximates that extraordinarily high
standard for medium- tempo "
skunk," but the other tw o cuts are
less memorable
. Still, it' s another fine release fromChaos
P roductions_. ( J B)
( Chaos

P rod . - - 2 6

Faubourg

St .

V incent- - 45000
Orleans- - FRANCE)
KANSAN UUTISET - Beautiful Dreams LP
Finnish thrash in the RIISTETYT tradition
. More
specifically, KANSAN UUTISET produce the sort of incoherent
thrash w ith poorly synchroniz ed vocals that characteriz ed the
first RIISTETYT EP , w hich I found too tuneless and
similar- sounding
. There are some notew orthy blasts here ( like
"Army Cannot make the Man" and "Economic Appraisal"), and
the less compressed B- side has abetter sound quality, but on
the w hole this albumis overly derivative
. ( J B)
( P ropaganda
; pressed by Rock- O- Rama)
This very young punk band- - mostly 14- year olds- - thrash
and grow l their w ay out of the garage
. There' s aw hole slew of
songs here, pretty roughly produced, and they have their say
on aw hole range of subjects . The guitar w ork show s promise,
and there are some truly craz ed items throw n in . ( TY)
( $3 to V erbal Assault- - 82 4 Falkirk Ave. , RR#2 - - Sidney, B. C. - -
CANADA V 8L 351)
D. O. A . - "General Strike/That' s Life"
KANGRENA - "Terrorismo Sonoro" EP
KANGRENA have araw , primitive approach that goes over
reasonably w ell on faster cuts like "Agonia" and "Fum, Fum,
Fum," but only annoys on the slow er, tuneless numbers
. The
spirit is w illing, but the flesh needs to age abit
. ( J B)
( Anarchi,

dist .

by

P enetracion- - Apartado
17
. 140- - Madrid- - SP AIN)
Strong mid- tempo punk can be found on this single by
Spain' s K. G. B
. "Treblinka" is astraightforw ard blast w ith a
distinctive bass line and agreat guitar break punctuated by
screams
; "Luftw affe" alternates betw een slow portions and
accelerated parts w ith acatchy punk- pop chorus
. Good stuff.
( J B)
( Dro, dist
. by P enetracion)
ENOLA GAY - "317 Nitter" cassette
A 12 - song studio demo that' s w ell- produced
. It' s got that
chunky drumming that I don' t go for too much, but the guitar
sound and vocals are real good, and it' s real pow erful overall.
The main problemw ith ENOLA GAY is that they rely abit too
much on the basic repetitive thrash structure. More variation
w ould help . ( TY)
( Anderz

Nielsen- - Fosgarden

1th- - 2 62 0
Albertslund- - DENMARK )
Some of the most intense yet catchy thrash to come out of
Australiathus far . This w ell- produced tape bodes very w ell for
the scene "dow n under," even if it does have a
heavily- produced English accent
. ( TY)
( P aul- - 142 Mitford St
. - - Elw ood 3184- - AUSTRALIA)
END RESULT- "No Master' s V oice" cassette
MALINHEADS - "Hoax" EP
A lot of German thrash bands have atuneless quality that
makes it hard to distinguish individual songs, but the
MALINHEADS have more of acatchy, w ell- produced attack, like
many new Sw edish groups
. Highly recommended for that, and
the notew orthy bass playing . ( J B)
( V inyl

Boogie- - A.

Kelling

Schallplatten- - Gleditschstrasse
45- - 1000Berlin 30- - W
. GERMANY)
MAHO NEITSYT - "Tehdaskaupungin Lapset" EP
The second EP fromMAHO NEITSYT comes on strong w ith
gruff sandpaper vocals and an ultra- dense instrumental attack.
It' s loud, noisy, and much more Oi- influenced than their debut,
and I love every minute of it . ( J B)
( $3 to Maho Neitsyt- - P L 10- - 45141 Kouvola14- - FINLAND)
LARSEN - "No!" 12 " EP
A raw garage punk record, and the first funnypunk release
I' ve heard fromSpain
. LARSEN boast adistorted, trebly guitar
sound, aheavy rhythmsection, adistinctive vocalist w ith a
sarcastic "nyah, nyah" style, and real basic song structures.
The abrasive "V omitas Sangre" and the uptempo "Nacido de la
P otade un P unk" strike the most responsive chords
. ( J B)
( Spansuls, dist
. by P enetracion)
HOLLAND' S GLORIE - "Harde Feiten" EP
NEGATIV - "Glitter Hair Cream/Terrorist
"
' 7 7 - style punk fromSw itz erland
. The A- side has asatirical
anti- macho approach and anice chorus, but the flip, w ith its
loping bass line, primitive guitar lead, tightness, and
irresistable singalong character, is by far the better song.
Good fun . ( J B)
( Negativ- - c/o

Beatw ire- - Hauptstrasse

2 7 - - CH
4445- - Hafelfingen- - SWITZERLAN
D )
NUKKETEATERI - "Toinennaytos/V astustanyt Kielt' ydy" 12 "
This release marks abig change of direction for Finland' s
NUKKETEATERI
. They' ve moved fromfast hook- filled punk to
irritating post- punk w ith ascratchy guitar, afluid bass, a
spry tempo, and an exceptionally annoying trumpet! I can' t
figure out w hich song is w hich, but I liked this band alot
better before. ( J B)
( unreadable address)
N . Y . X. NEGATIV - cassette
Rapid- fire spears of crunching velocity and severing vocals
of raucous scurry carry this Sw edish band into blasting raids
of accelerating eruptions
. Forged in raw , harsh pow er and
torpedoing speed, N. Y. X
. NEGATIV continue the grow ing
headlong attack of Sw edish thrash intensity . Buz z saw guitar
slices hack out chaotic rhythms w hich rip the flesh in bloody
convulsions . Full steamahead! ( P us)
( no address)
P ANDEMONIUM - "Who the Fuck are You?" EP
More careening thrash fromHolland
' s P ANDEMONIUM. All
three songs on this EP are manic as hell, although "No
Reaction" has aslow /fast structure
. The only problemhere lies
in the production- - it' s alot more trebly and echoey than their
cuts on the Als je Haar
. . . 2 compilation, w hich makes them
sound alittle tinny . Recommended anyw ay . ( J B)
( Limbabw e- - P ostbus 1680- - V enlo- - NETHERLANDS)
V ARIOUS ARTISTS - "Chaotische Ostern" cassette
A titanic spirit ooz es
fromthe reels of this live, exerting
collection of raging friction and grinding fury
. It features
bands fromAustriaand West Germany, and w as recorded in
V iennaat an anarchist house during a3- day punk fest.
Untamed ferocity devastates frantic spurts of driving disorder,
w hich continually unleash asonic flail attack
. Frenz ied, quick,
and intense, this thrash compilation digs dow n w ith invasions of
lightning squashers . Great stuff by INFERNO, K
. G. B. , the
NIKOTEENS, K- 7 0, and more fromGermany, plus EXTREM, der
BRUSTKREBS, and DEAD NITTLES fromAustria
. ( P us)
( $4 to Doff Hermannstadter jun
. - - Salz mannstrasse 53- - 8900
Augsburg- - W. GERMANY)
V ARIOUS ARTISTS - It Came fromInner Space LP
This new Canadian compilation is very much like the English
samplers w hich proliferated w ildly in the ' 7 8 epoch, in that it
features abunch of pop bands and one or tw o token punk
groups . Of the latter, S. N . F. U. produce tw o pow erful
mid- tempo gems w ith crunching guitars and singalong choruses
( including the classic "Real Men don' t Watch Q uincy"), w hile
DOWN SYNDROME offer acouple of raunchy garage punkers
. Of
the pop bands, the STANDARDS and the THIEV ES stand out
above the w impy pack by virtue of aheavier guitar sound and
an unobtrusive 60' s tinge. The overall effect is rather
refreshing in our current eraof musical segregation . ( J B)
( $8 to Rubber- - P . O. Box 4554- - Edmonton, Alberta- - CANADA)
V ARIOUS ARTISTS - "Last White Christmas, vols
. 1- 2 " cass
Tw o more high- quality cassettes fromB. C. T. w hich further
their effort to give more exposure to international bands . These
w ere recorded in P isa, Italy, just prior to 1984
. Tape #1 is a
C90w ith nine bands . Most of themthrash
aw ay in afrantic
rage, w ith those classic demented Italian w ails, but one band
( the USELESS BOYS) are in a60' s garage mold . Other groups
include BRONTOSAUR!, RAW P OWER, the WAR DOGS,
J UGGERNAUT, STATO DI P OLIZIA, P UTRID FEV ER, the
DEMENTS, and AUSCHLAG. Tape #2 , aC60, highlights the
CHEETAH CHROME MOTHERFUCKERS, I REFUSE IT, and
TRAUMATIC
. A must for the international collector . ( TY)
( B. C. P . - - P . O. Box 162 05- - San Diego, CA 92 116)
V ARIOUS ARTISTS - "The Red Dance P ackage" 12 " EP
Tw o Dutch bands join efforts on this 4- song maxi- EP .
ALERTA' s earlier material w as extremely dissonant, but here
they join the ranks of the SEX GANG CHILDREN/X- MAL
DEUTSCHLAND school of new Euro- hits
. On the other hand,
the EX are now more aggressive than they' ve been in aw hile,
even though they' ve alw ays produced interesting post- punk.
"Crap Rap" is afast, thickly- layered chant that sounds as if
CRASS merged w ith the FALL, and I think it' s really great
. An
interesting and w orthw hile offering
. ( RS)
( CNT

P rod. - - Flat

3 ;

Belle

V ue

Hse- - Belle

V ue
Rd
. Leeds ENGLAND)
This all- girl sextet fromHolland combines an abrasive,
post- punky quality w ith lyrics w hich address primarily personal
concerns fromaw oman' s view point . "Second P art" is abrisk,
spirited rocker, but the rest of this albumaccomodates offbeat
guitar figures w hich sacrifice agreat deal of accessibility.
Novel, though uninvolving . ( SS)
( T. A . 5 . - - c/o

Wandas- - P /A

Galgenstraat
4A Amsterdam NETHERLANDS)
WHITE NOISE - "V engence" cassette
Tight hard- edged punk ( and some thrash)
. WHITE NOISE
have that full- sounding rock ' n' roll attack alaD
. O
. A. or
CH3, to w hich they add extremely gruff lead vocals and strong
drumming
. Don' t overlook these guys
. ( TY)
( D
. Westlake- - 12 403 Lake Fraser Way S
. E
. - - Calgary, Alberta- -
CANADA T2 J 3T3)
ZERO P OINT/H! - [split] EP
A 7 " shared by tw o Danish bands w ith the same personnel.
ZERO P OINT performone melodic hardcore tune and one
guitar- oriented stop/start number w ith asynth accompaniment
and bright lyrics
. HS! have asomew hat slow er punk attack and
raspy vocals like J ake fromSTIFF LITTLE FINGERS, though
"Working Class Zero" is aspeedier blast w ith an epic chorus.
There' s some quality material here. ( J B)
( SpSn, dist
. by No Aarhus)
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