ETAP Power Station

07/19/2008 12:59 PM

Hello everybody My question is for those who is familiar with ETAP Power Station (Ver. 4.0.0). I am trying to carry out the load flow calculation in ETAP Power Station 4.0.0. However this module fails to perform, permanently giving the following error messages: Error 2000: Number of energized buses is less than two. Error 2001: The system has no swing power grid or generators. Error 2002: The system has no energized branches. I tried even the simplest system (generator, cable, bus and load) but without any result. Is it software error or is there anything to be changed in configuration and/or in parameters ? Your help or suggestions will be highly appreciated. Paata Register to Reply
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#3 "Re: ETAP Power Station" by Anonymous Poster on 07/20/2008 2:02 PM (score 1)

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07/20/2008 3:54 AM

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Re: ETAP Power Station

You should first check if you really did it right (e.g. You have energized buses, swing power grid, etc). If nothing happens, contact the service/maintenance section of your ETAP supplier. They should be able to help. Gemini EE Register to Reply

ramvinod
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07/20/2008 6:40 AM

Re: ETAP Power Station

There is nothing wrong with the software.I am familiar with the usage. You have to properly configure and select the buses and source etc.
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Anonymous Poster
Re: ETAP Power Station
07/20/2008 2:02 PM

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No energized busses implies that you have not configured the source of power properly. You must have at least one power source configured as a swing bus (loadflow calcs always need a swing bus to 'take up the slack'). Secondly there must be more than 2 buses for the loadflow to execute so add more system elements. Register to ReplyScore 1 for Good Answer
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Paata
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07/21/2008 2:02 PM

Re: ETAP Power Station

Thanks for comments As per your recommendation I managed to decrease error messages to one: "Error 2002: [project1] The system has no energized branches" by applying swing mode for generators. Question: what parameter should I change in branches (e.g. cable) table to eliminate Error 2002 and carry out the load flow, since I tried to use more than two busses without any result. Thanks in advance Paata Register to Reply

ramvinod
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Re: ETAP Power Station

07/21/2008 10:27 PM

Have you closed the breakers/switches for the power to flow? __________________ Ramesh,Freelance Electrical/automation Consultant

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biswanath.das
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Re: ETAP Power Station

07/22/2008 8:31 AM

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Mr Ramvinod don't beat in the bush. I will suggest Mr Paata to first get familier with ETAP. Read manual, help files and sample models. Hope you will solve your problem. I have worked quite a no of projects on ETAP, the errors you are saying is nothing but your ignorance. __________________ BNDas Register to Reply

Paata
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07/22/2008 10:12 AM

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I would like to particularly thank you Mr. BNDas for your valuable help Now I will know that there is "Help" capabilities in the software and manual as well. Register to Reply

Paata
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Re: ETAP Power Station

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 20 07/22/2008 10:03 AM

Hi I don't have problem with load flow any more. What I did was to add fiew more elements to the system and result was satisfactory. I hope there shouldn't be any problems with more complex

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Anonymous Poster
02/03/2010 8:32 AM

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Re: ETAP Power Station

Try adding cable in-between DG & your MCC. Jassen. Register to Reply

Amrul
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03/15/2010 3:58 AM

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Hi Paata, Can you share with me what is the new elements havu you added in to solve this problem? I'm currently facing the same problem like you. Amrul Register to Reply

Anonymous Poster
03/29/2010 9:54 AM

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Re: ETAP Power Station

If you are using Etap version 4.0 these days, I'd say you were onto a pirate version. No wonder you didnt call the supplier! nmo Register to Reply

Anonymous Poster
Re: ETAP Power Station
03/29/2010 9:57 AM

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Amrul I suggest a transformer and a bus, with no load on it. nmo

Recently, I had the good fortune to attend a training program on ETAP, conducted by Mr. P Nandakumar, a reputed freelance consultant and trainer of ETAP. The software is a superb tool for analyzing power systems of any complexity, but often it throws some counter-intuitive errors, which is difficult to analyze for the novice. This post is a collection of such common errors and the easiest solutions to them. 1. 1. Error 2002 The system has no energized branches

This is a common error while using ETAP for the first time, blocking out all calculations. Even though you mightve added many elements to the layout, ETAP requires some elements, like a cable, line or transformer which has a non-zero impedance value. A circuit breaker helps to add more interconnected branches, but wont solve the issue. If a transformer cannot be included in your diagram, you have to add a new bus and connect it using a short cable (say, 25 sq.mm, 50 m length) as shown below. This may be labeled dummy, if you like, and wont affect the calculations in any way. This simple trick will save you from unnecessary hold up (about 1 hour, in my case!!)