Follow Firmansyah My compressor speed (NPT) is running higher than gas turbine speed (NGP).

Could anyone help me to find out what is the cause of this?. is it because less flow? or gas composition change? 1 day ago Like CommentFollow Flag More 7 comments

Follow Dusan Dusan Atlagic If compressor is connected with mechanical coupling to the gas turbine than rotational speed is the same. 22 hours ago Like Reply privately Flag as inappropriate

Follow Alasdair (Ally) Alasdair (Ally) McLean Sounds like thee unit is running at a very low load. Have any of the run parameters changed significantly (suction, discharge pressure, flow) from their typical readings. Is the speed value steady? 20 hours ago Like

Follow Firmansyah Firmansyah Firmansyah Dear Dusan, The gas turbine has split shaft, the Gas Producer Shaft and Power Turbine Shaft. Normally, the Power Turbine speed (compressor/driven) running lower than Gas Producer speed (gas turbine/driver). 9 hours ago Like

Follow Firmansyah Firmansyah Firmansyah Dear Ally, currently the suction pressure parameter is below the design point. This is due to operational parameter from well that we cannot control. We also running in a low flow regime. Is there any solution beside adding the load to compressor?

The Compressor speed is quite steady. 9 hours ago Like

Follow Neil Neil Walters Hello Fimansyah. It looks very much like a fouled compressor so the speed has to increase to maintain the head and flow to keep away from surge. As the compressor impellars foul or errode they do less work so absorb less HP thus will spin faster than the gas producer. Major reasons for fouling are bitumen and tar deposits on the impellars causing blockage. Or errosion of the impellars due to sand or course material within the gas. If errosion is the problem then the only fix is to rebuild the compressor. If fouled you can inject a solvent like condensate or similar into the suction line to try to disolve the tar. If that doesn't work then you have no option other than to rebuild the compressor......with luck you may only need to bead-blast the tar off so will be a cheap rebuild. 9 hours ago Like1

Follow Firmansyah Firmansyah Firmansyah Hello Neil, thanks for your comment. If it is because fouled or erroded impellers, the radial vibration should give high indication right? but the radial vibration indication is still normal. 2 months ago, we had a high radial vibration, and quiet same with your method, instead of inject, we soak the impeller with rochem (detergent use in engine cleaning) and the vibration problem solve without rebuild the compressor. But the Compressor speed is still running higher than the gas producer speed. 8 hours ago Like

Follow Neil Neil Walters Firmansyah, if the errosion or buildup does not cause imbalance then there will be no indication of change in radial vibration. From what you say, where you have previously had fouled compressor causing imbalance, I would say this is your problem. I have seen bitumen and tar buildup that is like cement and can only be removed by dissassembly and bead-blasting. What you will find is your compressor will eventually run at PT topping or 100%. As fouling continues the compressor cannot create more head so you will run closer to the surge line. When you get too close to surge the recycle valve will open and you will run in recycle. I hope I have helped you in some way.