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AugustaRichmondCountyCommissionconvenedat200pm July7 2009 theHon DekeCopenhaver Mayor presiding PRESENT Hons Holland Smith Mason Hatney Beard Johnson Jacksonand Brigham membersofAugustaRichmondCountyCommission Absent Hons BowlesandGrantham membersofAugustaRichmondCounty Commission TheinvocationwasgivenbytheReverendJackJagoditsch Pastor Lakemont PresbyterianChurch ThePledgeofAllegiancetotheFlagoftheUnitedStatesofAmericawasrecited Mr Mayor Reverend ifyoucouldcomeforwardIvegotalittlesomethingforyou AndIjustwanttosaythankyouforthatwonderfulandinspiringprayer Bythesepresentbeit knownthatReverendJackJagoditsch PastorLakemontPresbyterianChurchisChaplainofthe Dayforhiscivicandspiritualguidance Demonstratedthroughoutthecommunityandservesas anexampleforallofthefaithcommunity Givenundermyhandthis7th dayofJuly2009 Thankyousomuchagain APPLAUSE MadamClerk ontotheRecognitions TheClerk RECOGNITION S GeorgiaMunicipalAssociationAwards A Congratulations CommissionersCalvinHollandandJimmySmithforcompletingall courseworkrequiredforacertificateofrecognition whichwasreceivedduringthe2009 GeorgiaMunicipalAssociation sAnnualMeetingfromtheUniversityofGeorgiaCarl VinsonInstituteofGovernment TheClerk Congratulation CommissionersSmithandHolland APPLAUSE Mr Mayor Yallwanttosayanything Mr Holland Lotofwork Gotalotofmoreworktodo Thankyouverymuchthough Mr Mayor MadamClerk withnoPresentationsletsgetrightontotheconsentagenda TheClerk Yes sir Ourconsentagendaconsistsofitems130 items130 Forthe benefitofanyobjectorstoouralcoholpetitionsoncethepetitionsarereadifthereareany objectorswouldyoupleasesignifyyourobjectionsbyraisingyourhand
Item1 IsforarequestforaretailpackageBeer Winelicensetobeusedinconnectionwith TaraFoodMartlocatedat2040InwoodDr Item2 IsforaretailpackageBeer WinelicensetobeusedinconnectionwithSmartGrocery locatedat3221WrightsboroRoad Item3 IsforanonpremiseconsumptionBeer Winelicensetobeusedinconnectionwith SweetLouislocatedat129312BroadStreet Item4 IsforaretailpackageBeer WinelicensetobeusedinconnectionwithLuckyTrip ConvenienceStorelocatedat2260LumpkinRoad TheClerk Arethereanyobjectionstothosealcoholpetitions Mr Russell Nonenoted MadamClerk TheClerk Okay Mr Mayor membersoftheCommission ourconsentagendaconsists ofitems1 30 Mr Mayor Okay thankyou maam Andbeforewe goahead TheClerk Andfortherecordonourconsentagendaarefouritemsthatwereapproved bythePublicSafetyCommitteethatwouldhavebeenonourconsentagenda Howeverthey wereinadvertentlyleftoffsoweneedtoconsiderthose Anditem16thatIpassedouttoyou wastoapproveaColocationLeaseTerminationforaWirelessCommunicationsFacilitieson UtilitiesTobaccoRoadWaterStorageTank Mr Mayor Okay TheClerk ThatwasalsoapprovedinourPublicSafety EngineeringServices Committeeonthe29th Mr Mayor Okay sowedonotneedtoaddtheadditionstotheagenda Theywere simply actually TheClerk Atechnicality Weneedtoaddthem Soifwecouldaddthosetoour consentagenda Mr Mayor Okay socouldweaddtheitemsreferencedbyMadamClerktotheconsent agenda Mr Johnson Somoved Ms Beard Second Mr Mayor Wehaveamotionandasecond Allinfavorvotebytheusualsign TheClerk Mr Hatney
Mr Hatney Ivotedalready TheClerk Tryitagain Thankyou sir Motioncarries80 Mr Mayor Okay thankyouall That sbeentakencareof Dowehaveanyadditions totheconsentagenda CommissionerBrigham Mr Brigham Mr MayorIdliketoaddtheappointmenttotheHealthDepartmenttothe consentagendaifthatspossiblewiththerestofmyCommissioners APPOINTMENTS 34 ConsidertheappointmentofDr JillP HauensteintotheRichmondCountyBoardof Health RequestedbyCommissionerJerryBrigham Mr Mayor Item34 Okay Okay dowehaveanymoreitemstobeaddedtothe consentagenda APPOINTMENTS 28 MotiontoapprovetheappointmentofMr MichaelD StacytotheAugustaPorts AuthorityrepresentingDistrict6 TheClerk CommissionerJacksonwouldliketodeleteitem28ifthatcouldbe Mr Mayor Deleteitem28fromtheconsentagenda TheClerk Yes sir Mr Mayor Okay TheClerk Fromthe yes sir Mr Mayor Okay dowehaveanyfurtheradditionstotheconsentagenda Okay dowe haveanyitemstobepulledfordiscussion HearingnoneIwouldlookforamotiontoapprove theconsentagenda Mr Jackson Somoved Mr Holland Second CONSENTAGENDA PUBLICSERVICES 1 MotiontoapproveaNewOwnershipApplication AN 09 83 requestbyNiravK Shah foraretailpackageBeer WinelicensetobeusedinconnectionwithTaraFoodMart
locatedat2940InwoodDr District5 SuperDistrict9 ApprovedbyPublicServices CommitteeJune29 2009 2 MotiontoapproveaNewOwnershipApplication AN 0984 ArequestbyChaePak foraretailpackageBeer WinelicensetobeusedinconnectionwithSmartGrocery locatedat3221WrightsboroRd District3 SuperDistrict10 ApprovedbyPublic ServicesCommitteeJune29 2009 3 MotiontoapproveaNewApplication AN 0985 requestbyChristopherC Kingfor anonpremiseconsumptionBeer WinelicensetobeusedinconnectionwithSweetLows locatedat129312BroadSt District1 SuperDistrict9 ApprovedbyPublicServices CommitteeJune29 200 4 MotiontoapproveaNewOwnershipApplication 0986 ArequestbySikanderZ MemonforaretailpackageBeer WinelicensetobeusedinconnectionwithLuckyTrip ConvenienceStorelocatedat2260LumpkinRd District6 SuperDistrict10 Approved byPublicServicesCommitteeJune29 2009 5 MotiontoapproveanOrdinancetoamendtheAugusta Ga CodeTitleSixSections66 45and6 646relatingto LicensetoOperateArcades and AmusementGamePermit soastoestablishdistancerequirementsforcoinoperatedamusementmachines torepeal allcodesectionsandordinancesandpartsofcodesectionsandordinancesinconflict herewith toprovideaneffectivedateandofotherpurposes ApprovedbyPublicServices CommitteeJune29 2009 6 MotiontoapprovechangeordertocontractwithRWAllen LLC intheamountof 64797 foradditionalworkatthenewMainLibrary asrequestedbytheLibrary DirectorandArchitect ApprovedbyPublicServicesCommitteeJune29 2009 7 Motiontoapproveatwenty fourmonthleaseforgolfcartsforAugustaMunicipalGolf CoursewithEZGOTextron Inc ApprovedbyPublicServicesCommitteeJune29 2009 8 MotiontoapprovethecontractwithHallMarketingastheairportAdvertisingAgency ofchoice ApprovedbyPublicServicesCommitteeJune29 2009 ADMINISTRATIVESERVICES 9 MotiontoapprovethedesignationofOpportunityZonesinAugusta Approvedby AdministrativeServicesCommitteeJune29 2009 FINANCE 10 MotiontoratifytheapplicationbytheDistrictAttorney sOfficeVictimAssistance ProgramtotheCriminalJusticeCoordinatingCouncilfora2009Recover ActVictim ServicesGrantintheamountof 36330fortheperiod8109through93010 Approved byFinanceCommitteeJune29 2009 11 Motiontoapprovetheitemslistedontheattachedlistasexcessandavailableforsaleat apublicauction ApprovedbyFinanceCommitteeJune29 2009 12 MotiontoapprovearequestfromCharlotteandKenThorstadregardingarefundof taxesonpropertylocatedat3403KerryPlace ApprovedbyFinanceCommitteeJune29 2009 ENGINEERINGSERVICES 13 MotiontoapproveCapitalProjectBudget323 041110296823215ChangeNumber Sevenintheamountof 100000000fortheAlexanderDriveProjecttobefundedfrom
SPLOSTFundBalanceAccountandPhaseIIRecapturerespectivelyfortheEngineering Department ApprovedbyEngineeringServicesCommitteeJune29 2009 14 Motiontoapprovechangeorder 1totheexistingdesigncontractintheamountof 16382500toZELEngineersforadditionalworktocompleteaSupplemental EnvironmentalAssessmentandtopreparea Demolitioncontractfortheexisting wastewatertreatmentplantatFortGordon ApprovedbyEngineeringServices CommitteeJune29 2009 15 MotiontoapproveacontractwithQualityStormWaterSolutions Inc forservices associatedwithconstructionoftheGoshenIndustrialSanitaryLiftStationProjectinthe amountof 3966800 Biditem 09082A ApprovedbyEngineeringServicesCommittee June29 2009 16 MotiontoapproveResolutionadoptingtheAugustaRichmondCountyJointSolid WasteManagementPlan ApprovedbyEngineeringServicesCommitteeJune29 2009 17 MotiontoapproveChangeOrderfundingtoJohnson Laschober Associates and PC intheamountof 9760000forthefeeassociatedwithdesigningfortheFortGordon additional10MillionGallonElevatedStorageTank Demolitionofthe225million standpipeandinstallationofapproximately1250linearfeetofductileironpipe ApprovedbyEngineeringServicesCommitteeJune 29 2009 18 MotiontoapprovethesolicitationofbidsfortheProfessionalServicesAgreementfor theOperationsoftheWaterPollutionControlFacilitiestoincludeasubmittalfrom AugustaUtilitiesforaninhouseoperationaswellandhavetheinformationbackfor reviewassoonaspossible ApprovedbyEngineeringServicesCommitteeJune29 2009 19 MotiontoapproveandacceptaDeedofDedicationandMaintenanceAgreementfor ForestPlace Phases1A 1B ApprovedbyEngineeringServicesCommitteeJune29 2009 20 MotiontoapproveanincreaseinthePurchaseOrderwithGravesEngineeringfor constructiontestingontheJudicialCenterby 56000to 178000tocoverthecostof testingrelatedtounforeseenconditions ApprovedbyEngineeringServicesCommittee June29 2009 21 MotiontoapproveTheOffSystemSafetyProject GeorgiaDepartmentof TransportationProjectNumberCSSFT000800 876 PI 0008876 andexecuteThe GeorgiaDepartmentofTransportationContractfortheabovenamedprojectwherethe CityofAugustaagreestocomplywiththeProvisionsforStateRequirements Fundingis availableinTrafficEngineeringAccount272 0417105311630 ApprovedbyEngineering ServicesCommitteeJune29 2009 22 MotiontoapproveCapitalProjectBudgetChangeNumberEightandChange Order NumberSevenintheamountof 14500000ontheRae sCreekTrunkSewer Replacement PhaseIV CPB327 041110208812301 totheconstructioncontractwith WL Hailey Company Also approvethetransferof 14500000intotheConstruction budgetforcompletionoftheEngineeringDepartmentsportionofthisproject Approved byEngineeringServicesCommitteeJune29 2009 23 MotiontoawardbidtoQualityStormWaterSolutions lowbidder intheamountof 131565fortheremovalandreplacementof240LFoffailedCMPunderneaththe roadwayatMeadowbrookandIraDrive Approveunderemergencyconditionsasthe roadwaycouldpotentiallycollapse ApprovedbyEngineeringServicesCommitteeJune 29 2009
24 Motiontoapprovearesolutioncreatingstreetlightingdistricts Approvedby EngineeringServicesCommitteeJune29 2009 25 MotiontosupplementtheCityofAugustascontractwithRWAllenintheamountof 30866tocovertheadditionalcostsassociatedwithinstallingbasesandassociatedwiring tocompletethestreetlightupgradeofthe800blockofTelfairStreet Fundingisavailable intheStreetLightingaccount276 0416105414410asrequestedbytheEngineering Department ApprovedbyEngineeringServicesCommitteeJune29 2009 26 Motiontoapproverequesttoreplace320 x60 ofdeterioratedcorrugatedmetalpipe CMP pipeonWaldenDriveandawardcontracttoBlairConstruction lowbidder inthe amountof 55250 ApprovedbyEngineeringServicesCommitteeJune29 2009 PETITIONSANDCOMMUNICATIONS 27 MotiontoapprovetheminutesoftheregularmeetingoftheCommissionheldonJune 2 2009 APPOINTMENTS 29 MotiontoapprovetheappointmentofMr PerryW RobinsontotheAugustaPorts AuthorityrepresentingDistrict5 30 MotiontoapprovetheappointmentofMs JulieTillerytounexpiredtermofMs CrystalEskolaontheAugustaAnimalControlBoardrepresentingDistrict7 APPOINTMENTS 34 ConsidertheappointmentofDr JillP HauensteintotheRichmondCountyBoardof Health RequestedbyCommissionerJerryBrigham ADDENDUM 36 MotiontoapproveChangeOrderNumber5 intheamountof 12065230 tothe ConstructionContractfortheWebsterDetentionCenterExpansion ApprovedbyPublic SafetyCommitteeJune29 2009 37 MotiontoapproveChangeOrderNo 6toMcKnightConstruction scontracttoexpand WebsterDetentionCenter ApprovedbyPublicSafetyCommitteeJune29 2009 38 MotiontoapproveawardofBidItem 09 054 FirefightingProtectiveClothingforthe AugustaFireDepartmenttoNAFECOasBestBid ApprovedbyPublicSafetyCommittee June29 2009 39 MotiontoapproveCapacityAgreementforFY2010forstateinmatesbeinghousedin theRichmondCountyCorrectionalInstitution ApprovedbyPublicSafetyCommittee June9 2009 40 MotiontoapproveCoLocationLeaseTerminationforWirelessCommunications FacilitiesonUtilitiesTobaccoRoadWaterStorageTank ApprovedbyEngineering ServicesCommitteeJune29 2009 Mr Mayor Wehaveamotionandasecond Commissioners willnowvotebytheusual sign Mr Hatneyabstains Motioncarries71 Items14
Motioncarries80 Items527 29 30 34 Addendumitems1 5 TheClerk Itsunanimous Mr Mayor Magnanimous TheClerk Magnanimous Mr Mayor Okay MadamClerk ontotheregularagenda Mr Hatney MadamClerk TheClerk Item31 Mr Mayor MadamClerk CommissionerHatney Mr Hatney Abstainonliquor TheClerk Therecordwillreflect Mr Mayor Whataboutbeer TheClerk Mr Hatney TheClerk PLANNING 31 Z0924 ArequestforconcurrencewiththeAugustaRichmondCountyPlanning CommissiontodenyapetitionbyJimmyFordonbehalfofJC Callahan requestinga SpecialExceptiontoestablishachurchperSection261 a oftheComprehensiveZoning OrdinanceforAugustaRichmondCountyaffectingpropertycontaining 31acresandis knownas1133HopkinsStreet TaxMap046 4385000 DISTRICT1 Referredfromthe June16 2009CommissionMeeting Mr Mayor Mr Patty Mr Patty Mr ChairmanorMr Mayorrather Commissioners Thisapplicationwas submittedacoupleofmonthsago ItwassubmittedbyJimmyFordastheowner sdesignated representative Thatsreflectedonherapplicationforrezoning AndaweekagoMr Ford calledmeandtoldmethattheywouldnotpursuethisapplication BecauseofthatIdidnot bringazoningordinancewithmesoImgoingtoaskthatyoutablethisuntillaterinthe meeting Isthatpossible Ivegotithere Thisisnotthepertinentsection Mr Mayor Okay MadamAttorney doweneedamotiontotableituntil CommissionerHatneyisabstainingonthealcoholpetitions Thankyou
Mr Patty UntilIcangetazoningordinance Mr Mayor Isthepetitionerhere Mr Patty Thepetitionerisnothere Theownerishere Ms Johnson Wastheownerfromheretospeaktothat Mr Hatney Thepetitionerforwhat Whatareweasking Whichpetitioner Mr Brigham Mr Mayor Illmakeamotion Mr Mayor CommissionerBrigham Mr Brigham I llmakeamotiontotablethisuntilwehavealltheinformation available Mr Mayor CanIgetasecond Mr Hatney Pointoforder please Mr Mayor CommissionerHatney Mr Hatney ThiswasonthelastagendaanditwasaskedbyourAttorneytoforwardit tothisagendasothatthosepersonscouldbehere Nowwhytheyaintherethatsjustoneof themthings ButIwouldliketoaskthisyoungmanaquestionifIcould Yousaidyouare yourpetitionisyourreadingisnottoacknowledgethe nottoacceptthechurchspetition Mr Patty No sir Becausethepetitioner thepetitionerinthiscasesir theowner s representativewhichwas whohassignedtheformthatappliedfortherezoningcalledmelast weekandtoldmetheywouldnotpursuethis Ididnotbringmyzoningordinanceandthereare proceduralreasonswhyyouneedtoconsiderdenialofthiscase AndIcantintelligentlyspeak tothosewithoutlookingatthezoningordinance Soifyoucouldjustputthisoffforafew minutesuntilIcangetacopyofthezoningordinance Mr Hatney Forafewminutes Okay Mr Patty Tableforafewminutes Mr Hatney Totableit Okay Mr Mayor Okay wehadamotiontotableandasecond Ifthereisnofurther discussionCommissionerswillnowvotebytheusualsignofvoting Motioncarries80
TheClerk Anothermagnanimous Mr Mayor Alrighty MadamClerk nextagendaitem TheClerk FormatterofrecordbothMr GranthamandMr Bowleswillbeoutforthe durationofthemeeting TheyreonvacationIbelieve Mr Mayor Ihopetheyrehavingagoodtime TheClerk ENGINEERINGSERVICES 32 AuthorizeOptionYear3ofAmendmentNo 7totheexistingProgramManagement ServicesContractwithCH2MHill Inc toprovideProgramManagementServicesforthe 2004SeriesBondCapitalImprovementsProgramapprovedbyCommission02012005 OptionYear3budgetis 1500000 NorecommendationfromEngineeringServices CommitteeJune29 2009 Mr Mayor CommissionerSmith Mr Smith Thankyou Mr Mayor Thiscontractifwedontapproveitanditwillbe changedtoanothercompanyinthemiddleofthestreamsotospeakImafraidwillcostour taxpayersalotmoremoneythanthisonthisagendaitem AndIstronglywouldaskmyfellow Commissionerstoconsiderthetaxpayersandthedollarsthatitsprobablygoingtocostabove whatthisfigureishereifwedontfinishtheMesserlyTreatmentPlant AndIthinkthatthat wouldbeinordertoaddthatparttowhatevermotionthatismadethattheyfinishtheMesserly Plant Mr Mayor CommissionerHatney thenCommissionerMason Mr Hatney Myconcernwiththisisthatafterlookingatgettingacopyoftheinitialor thecontractitselfcontractatleasttodiscoverthatoneofthestatementssaidthatthisgroupalong withtheothergroupwouldactuallytrainAugusta sUtilitiesDepartment Andtolearnlateron thattheywerepermittedbyourAdministrationtoinsteadoftrainingthesefolkstheyhiredthem forthemselves WhethertheytrainedthemornotIdontknowbuttheyhiredthem Andthats incontraryofwhytheywerebroughthere Theywerebroughtheretotrainandthey vegot somepartsofitinconstructionIdontunderstandthat Butwhenyou retalkingabouthow muchmoneyweregoingtosave wevealreadyspentover 70milliondollars Alreadydone that Itsnotlikethisissomethingthatsjustgotstartedyesterday Thisisnineortenyearsold almost Andthatwhichtheywereemployedtodoifithasbeendoneitsnotshowingup becauserecentlyinourCommitteemeetingtheUtilitiesDepartmentdidnotevenbelievethat theywerereadyatalltocarryonwiththemanagementpartoftheWasteWaterPlantandallthat kindofstuffwhichtheyweresupposedtohavealreadybeentrainedtodotodiscoverthat70 maybeifwewentonanddiditourselvesotherthantheconstruction Somebodysgottodothe construction SoIthinkthatshouldbebiddedout Butthemanagementpart theadministrative
parttomethatsaninsulttosayittomethatyoucansavemoneywhenyoudonespentover 70 millionandthemissionhasnotyetbeenaccomplished Theyhadthatlong Mr Mayor Okay Mr Hatney Letmefinish Theyhadthatlongbutyoucantconvincemethatyoucan dostuffinninemonthsyouhadntdoneintenyears Mr Mayor Okay CommissionerMason Mr Mason Thankyou Mr Mayor AlthoughIunderstandCommissionerSmiths statementIdontthinkthatthere sbeenanycredibleevidencethathasbeenbroughtforwardto legitimizethefactthatitwouldcostusanymoredollarsinthefuturethanwhatitcostusnow ThefactofthematteristheeconomybeinginthesituationthatitisIwouldthinkthatwewould wanttogoout ThiscontracthasbeenleftforovertenyearstoonecompanyandIthinkinthe interestoffairnesstheywouldhaveeveryopportunitytobidagainsonooneisshuttingthem out Andsotheywouldstillhaveanopportunitythenthecompetitionbecomesevengreaterand thecostmaybedrivendown SoalthoughIunderstandhisstatementIdontagreewithitfroma logicalstandpointandIdontagreewithitfromaneconomicstandpoint Solookingatitfrom thatavenueandthefactthatthetrainingobviouslyhasnottakenplaceoverthetenyearsaswas therequirement havenotseenanyvalidevidenceoranyevaluationsorassessmentsthathave beendoneovertheyearstodeterminewhereweare Inmyminditwouldbeadisserviceto continuewhenwedonthavetheevidencetoshowthatwereceivedwhatweweresuppose to receivefromthecontractualobligationthatwasdonesometenyearsago SoImin disagreementthereandIthinkcompetitionisgoodanditcertainlydoesnotforbidthemthe opportunitytocomebackandbidonthiscontractagainandperhapsevenwinit ButIthinkin theinterestoffairnesstowhatsbestforthisgovernmentweneedtoputitoutforbidagain give everybodyandopportunitytocomethroughandmaythebestpersonwin Butthecitywould standtowinoverallasawhole Mr Mayor CommissionerBrigham Mr Brigham Mr Mayor Idontthinkthatthere sanybodyupherethatdisagreesthat thiscontractneedstoberebid Ithinkwereallinagreementonthat ButIdothinkthatMr SmithiscorrectinthatweoughttocompletetheMesserlyPlantwiththeconstruction managementfirmthatwehavehiredandisworkingonthatplant Idontthinkitwouldbeto ouradvantagetohavetohavetwodifferentmanagementfirmstooverseeoneproject Inthe longrunwewillhavefingerpointingatoneortheotherifsomethinggoeswrong Ithinkit wouldbemoreappropriateandImtheonlyCommissionerthatsevervotedonthiscontractin theoriginalonethatssittingupherenow AndIdidntvoteforthisfirm Ivotedforanother firmbecausetheywerealocalfirm Butthisfirmhasdoneagoodjob ithasdonewhatitwas contractedtodo Wehaveoutsourcedthewastewatertreatmentplant Thosearenotour employees Thatwasthereasonwhywewentintothiscontractwastoturnoverthewastewater treatmentplanttoanoutsidevendorsothatwecouldoperateatamoreuniformlevel onethat wherewewouldnotbefinedbytheEPD Andthathasbeenthecase Thisisnotaboutthe operationthatthiscompanyhasperformed Thisisotherissuesandwearetryingtothrowin
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trainingasamiragebecausetherewasnotrainingtobeinvolvedwhenweoutsourcedthe people Nowthat IwashereIknowwhatwasinthatcontractandthatwaswhatwasvotedon IstillbelievethatthebestthingforthisCommissiontodoistohaveoneconstructionmanagerto foreseetheendofthecompletionoftheMesserlyPlantandtothatpointIthinkyouwillhave unanimousconsenttorebidthiscontract Mr Hatney Mr Mayor Mr Mayor Ms Beardwasfirst Ms Beard Ms Beard Mr Mayor IthoughtIheardhimsaythatnofundshadbeengiventoward trainingtheseindividuals Anditwasmyunderstandingthatwehavepaidthiscompanyovera milliondollarsthroughoutthiscontracttotraintheemployees Sotheyshouldbereadyatthis particulartime Mr Mayor Okay CommissionerHatney Mr Hatney Ididn t Idont Ididn tunderstandquitewhatmycolleaguemeantwhen hesaidthisain taboutbutitisaboutwhatI Ireadthiscontractmorethanonce Andthis contractitdefinitelystatesandIdontseenowayinherewhereitsaidweweredoingtoturnthis stuffovertooutsourceitforevertonobody Itsnotinhere Theyhavetwodatesinhere The firstdateanddidntrealizeuntilIlookedatthecontractthattheyhadtwoshortspacedwasto tenlongspacetotwenty Sotomeitsoundedliketheyhadnointentiontoeverleavehere anyway Sothat sjustnotthewayyoudobusiness Youknowifyoucomeinheretodo somethingdoitandtheniftheythinktheydon thavethecapacitytodothat theywantto reengageyouthroughabidprocessbecausetherestoomanythingsthatgoonfromupherethat shouldbebiddedonthatjustaintbiddedon AndIhavenoquarrelaboutsayingthatbutIdont thinktheresnobodyinherecapableofspeakingforme ImsayingwhatImsayingbecause Ivelookedatthecontractandthecontractitselfhasnotbeenadheredto Theworkhasnotbeen done Mr Mayor Mr MayorProTem Mr Mason Thankyou Mr Mayor AndIwouldagreewithDr Hatney Iwouldhope thataswehavethisdiscussionthatwewoulddoitinamannerwherewerenotmaking inferencestosomeoneelsesorwhattheymaybethinkingorwhatsgoingonintheirmindsand justleteachindividualspeakforthemselves CertainlyIrespectyourstatementMr Brigham butyoudonthavetheabilitytothinkorspeakforanyoneelseintermsofwhattheymaybe thinkingorwhatsreallygoingon Havingsaidthat though Iwouldliketohearfromour utilitiesdirectorDrewGoinsinterimtoseewhathistakeisonthisbeforeIgofurther Mr Mayor Mr Goins Mr Goins Goodafternoon Forthesakeofclarificationthatweretalkingabouttwo contractsandforsimplicityImgoingtocallonecontracttheOMIContract Thatcontractisfor thecontractoperationofthewastewatertreatmentplant ThereisanothercontractandIllcall
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thattheCH2MHillcontract Thatisforconstructionservicesforconstructionmanagement NowDr HatneyiscorrectinthatthecontractoperationsfortheMesserlyPlantdoeshave provisionsfortrainingthepersonnel Nowthepersonnelhavebeentrained theydohaveallof theircertificationsasrequiredbytheEPD Butthecontract excusemetodigressthe CommissionhasvotedonhasinstructedtheUtilitiesDepartmenttobidthecontractoperations oftheMesserlyPlantbackout WearealreadyworkingonpreparingRFQs Nowthecontract beforeyoutodayistheconstructionmanagementportion whichistheCH2MHillcontract Okay AsIrecallthediscussionsincommitteethevariousdiscussionswerethatthecertain membersoftheEngineeringServicesCommitteewantedtoapprovethiscontracttotheendof thisyear whichwastheoriginalcontractdate Theagendaitemassubmittedrequestedthatthe constructionmanagementportionoftheMesserlynotthecontractoperations Onlythe constructionmanagementbe extendedtotheendoftheconstructioncontract whichis anticipatedtobeSeptemberof2010 Thecommitteehadsuggestionsofextendingthecontract pertheagendaitem whichwouldbe 15milliondollars Therewereothersuggestionsto approvethecontractortheOptionYear3toendthework theconstructionmanagementworkat theendofthisyearandthenseekadditionalproposalsfromothervendorsincludingthecurrent vendorthatwehaveCH2MHillandlettheCommissionlookatthosecostsand evaluate accordingly SoitsmyunderstandingthatwhatwasavailablefortheCommission andIdont wanttospeakforthecommitteebutthiswasmyunderstandingwhat savailabletothe Commissionisoneoptionwouldbetoextendthecontractorexcuseme ortoapprovethe 09 budgettoallowresourcestotheendofthisyear Andthentheotheroneassuggestedby CommissionerSmithwouldbetoextendthatcontractuntilSeptemberof 010 Butthatisonly fortheconstructionmanagement Thecontractoperationswillbebidoutagain Mr Mayor Andjusttoclarifyforme Drew OptionOneiswhatiscurrentlyonthe agenda though correct Mr Goins Yes Whatsontheagendawastheengineering excuseme theconstruction servicesincludingtheMesserlyconstructionservicesthroughSeptemberof2010 Butthe unreadinessoftheEngineeringServicesCommitteewastohavethecontractendthisyearfor constructionservices NowtheOMIContract thecontractoperationsisacompletelydifferent contractandtheCommissionhasspokenandthatcontractwillberebid Mr Mayor CommissionerJohnson Mr Johnson Thankyou Mr Mayor Drew canwehaveyouuphereatthepodium I dohaveaquestion Whatistheoriginalexpiration dateforthatconstructionmanagement project Mr Goins December31 09 Mr Johnson Okayandwhathappenedtothepointthatithadexceed 09 Isitsome unforeseenissuethatcameaboutthatcausedthattohappen Mr Goins Thecontractwasoriginallysignedin2005andyouknowthingshappenover afive yearperiod Theconstructionschedules biddingschedulesthingslikethatslipinafive
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yearperiod Itwasoriginallyanticipatedbackin2005thattheMesserlycontractwouldbe completedbytheendofthisyear Duetoslippageandotherunforeseenconditionsthe constructionforMesserlyhasslippeduntilSeptemberof2010 Andthatsonly thatstheonly differenceofwhatweretalkingaboutistheslippageoftimeoverfiveyearsoftheconstruction portionoftheMesserlycontract Mr Johnson Andisitanyguaranteethatiswillonlytakeninemonthstocompletethat contractthroughout 010 Mr Goins Iwontbebackuphereagain Mr Johnson Okaythanks Thankyou Mr Mayor Mr Mayor Okay Okay wouldsomebodyliketomakeamotiononthis Mr Smith Imovethatweauthorizethiscontractagendaitem 32 Mr Mayor Dowehaveasecond Mr Jackson Second Mr Mayor Wehaveamotionandasecond Ifthere sno um CommissionerMason I believeIverecognizedyoutwice Mr Mason Pointofpersonalprivilege Mr Mayor Okay Mr Mason ImgoingtomakeasubstitutemotionthatwedenythisOptionYear3of thisamendment Mr Holland Second Mr Mayor Okay yourmotionistosimplydenyagendaitem 32 Mr Mason Absolutely IthinkweoughttomoveonwithDecember31st itends Mr Mayor Okaywehave CommissionerJackson Mr Jackson Mr Goins doyou haveanapproximatecostestimateofwhatbringinga newfirmin youknowifCHwentoutinDecember31andyouhadtohavesomebodyfornine months doyouhaveaballparkidea Mr Goins IcanonlyimagineitwouldbeintheneighborhoodofwhatCHhasestimated thattobeandthatwouldbeabout 500000 Ihavenotpursuedgettingcostsforthoseservices butwouldhavetodosoiftheintentionoftheCommissionwasnottoextendthecontractwith
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CH2MHillbeyondtheoriginalcontractdate AndthatwouldbesomethingthattheCommission throughtheiractionswould Iwouldbringthatbackupforafutureitem Mr Mayor OkayMr MayorPro wereyoufinished CommissionerJackson Ibelieve afterabriefconversationwiththeAdministratoryoudliketoamendyourmotion Mr Mason Hemadeagoodpoint Iwillamendmymotion Thatisstilltodenythe Option3ofthiscontractbuttoprovidethesufficientfundstocarryouttheexercisingoftheir dutiesofthiscontractthroughoutDecember31st ofthisyear 2009 Mr Holland Second Mr Mayor Okaywehavea CommissionerJohnson Mr Johnson Thankyou Mr Mayor IagreewithmycolleagueMr Mason Ithinkwe needtoaddtothatthoughmaybetoinstructourAdministratortomaybegooutandseeksome bidsonwhatitprobablywouldcostustocarryonwiththisprojectoutsideofDecember31st so wecanaddthattotheamendment Mr Mayor Okaywouldyouliketoaddthattoyour amendmenttoyoursubstitute motion Mr MayorProTem Mr Mason Yes ifwecouldhavetheClerkreaditbacksoIcanmakesureIunderstand whatIm Mr Mayor Whatyousaid Mr Mason Werestartingtoaddquiteabitnow Mr Mayor MadamClerk ifyoucouldreadthatback TheClerk ThesubstitutemotionwastodenytheauthorizationofYear3 OptionYear3 oftheAmendmentNo 7totheexistingProgramManagementServiceContractwithCH2MHill andtoprovideforsufficientfundstoexercisetherightofthecontractthroughDecember31 2009 Mr Mayor AndtodirecttheAdministratorto Mr Holland Seekbids Mr Mayor Areyougoodwiththat Mr Administrator Isthatclear Okay Mr Johnson IftheRFPsarerightonthat TheClerk RFP s
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Mr Mayor CommissionerBrigham Mr Brigham Iaskforarollcall Mr Mayor Okay rollcallvote TheClerk Yessir justaminute Mr Mayor Allrighty MadamClerk Letsmoveon TheClerk Letsmoveon Okay Ms Beard Ms Beard Deny TheClerk Mr Bowlesisout Mr Brigham Mr Brigham Themotionistodeny TheClerk TodenyOption3 Mr Brigham Imopposedtodenyingthemotion Mr Mayor Okayletsum TheClerk ThisisonthesubstitutemotionistodenyOption3Amendmentofthe AmendmentNo 7totheexistingprogramservicestoprovideforthesufficientfundstoexercise thecontracttoDecember31st 09 Mr Mayor OkayandsoMs Beardyourevotingnoonthemotion substitutemotion Ms Beard Yes Mr Mayor CommissionerBrigham Carryon MadamClerk TheClerk Mr Hatney Mr Hatney Whatareweasking Mr Mason Youreeitherforitoragainstit Letssayitlikethat Ms Beard MadamClerk Ineedtochangemyvote TheClerk Yes ma am Mr Mayor OkayIclearlystatedbutyoureeitheropposedtothemotionoryouarefor themotion Itsyeafornayagainst Okay Orabstain
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TheClerk Okay Illstarttherollcallover okay Mr Mayor Please thereseemstobesomeunreadiness Noweverybodysclear TheClerk Areweclearnowonthemotion Mr Hatney Wereclear Mr Mayor Okay TheClerk Ms Beard Ms Beard Yes todeny TheClerk Mr Brigham Mr Brigham No TheClerk Mr Hatney Mr Hatney Yes TheClerk Mr Holland Mr Holland Yes TheClerk Mr Jackson Mr Jackson No TheClerk Mr Johnson Mr Johnson Yes TheClerk Mr Mason Mr Mason Yes TheClerk Mr Smith Mr Smith No Mr Brigham Mr JacksonandMr SmithvoteNo Motionfails5 3
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Mr Mayor Andwehaveaprimarymotiononthefloor TheClerk IstoapprovetheauthorizationofOption3ofAmendment7totheexisting programmanagementservicecontractwithCH2MHill Mr Mason Rollcallvote Mr Mayor Mr Mayor Letsshoutthemoutagain MadamClerk TheClerk Allrightletsgo Ms Beard Ms Beard No TheClerk Mr Brigham Mr Brigham Yes TheClerk Mr Hatney Mr Hatney No TheClerk Mr Holland Mr Holland No TheClerk Mr Jackson Mr Jackson Yes TheClerk Mr Johnson Mr Johnson No TheClerk Mr Mason Mr Mason No TheClerk Mr Smith Mr Smith Yes Ms Beard Mr Hatney Mr Johnson Mr HollandandMr MasonvoteNo Motionfails5 3 Mr Mayor Noactiontaken Mr Administrator
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Mr Russell Mr Mayor wedohavesufficientfundstocontinuepaymentforabout another 30 daysorsobutIneedtomakesurethatyouarecognizantofthefactthatweare continuingtopaythebillsuntilthosefundsrunout Ijustwantedtomakeyouawareofthat Mr Hatney Wereawareofthat Mr Mayor Okay wevegot30daystogetsomethingdoneonit Mr Hatney Thecontractordontneedbut30daysnotice Mr Mayor Okay MadamClerk letsgoto33andhopefullyMr Pattywillbereadyto readdress31afterthat TheClerk PETITIONSANDCOMMUNICATIONS 33 ConsideranappealandreconsiderationofAlcoholLicenseDenialofarequestby HenryKimforaretailBeer WineLicensetobeusedinconnectionwiththeQuick EasyGrocerylocatedat2537WheelerRoad Augusta Georgia Mr Mayor Mr Sherman Mr Sherman MayorandCommissioners theappealisofadecisionthatyoumadeat theMay19th meetingtodenyanalcoholapplicationforaconveniencestoreonWheelerRoad TheLicenseandInspectionDepartmentrecommendedthatitbedeniedbecauseitdoesnotmeet thedistancerequirementaswellasbecauseoftheconcernwiththecongregationofkidsinthe neighborhoodbecauseofthechurches schools playgroundsinthearea Thewaythatwe interprettheordinanceandonalcohollicensesyouhavetomeetcertaindistancerequirements Inthiscaseretailsales its100yardstoachurchoralibrarybuilding Nowitsabuildingor its100yardstoapublicrecreationarea Itdoesntmentionabuildingbutjusttoanarea Okay thedistance ismeasuredoutsidethefrontdooroftheestablishmenttotherightofway Inthis caseacrossthestreetdowntherightofwaytotherecreationareawhichisSandHills CommunityCenter Measuringthedistancethewaytheordinanceprescribesitsroughly200 feet Therequirementisthatishastobe300or100yards Andsothereforethatwasthereason forthedenial IwasaskedalsotomentiontoyouthatanotherconsiderationtheCommissioncan haveindenyingitisthatyoucandenyanylicensewherethereisevidencethatthetypeand numberofschools churches libraries publicrecreationareasinthevicinityoftheplaceof businessofthelicenseecausesminorstofrequenttheimmediatearea Thereisanotherpark thatsroughly350 feetnorthofthisproperty Itdoesntcomeintoplayasfarasthedistance requirementgoes TheSandHillsCommunityCenter whichisroughly200 feettothearea is moreorlesssouthofthisproperty Andthentheresachurchdownthestreet Thosearethe reasonsforourdenial Mr Mayor Okay CommissionerHolland
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Mr Holland Thankyou Mr Mayor Mr Mayor Ithinkwehavesomeobjectorshere andifwedocanwehavethemtostandandgetacountonthoseobjectorsthatarehere Mr Mayor Okayandthiswouldnotbeobjectors Thiswouldbethosesupportingthe denialofthelicense Mr Holland Right AndIthinksomeoneisheretospeakinreferencetothat Mr Mayor Okay Mr Holland Fororagainst Mr Mayor Okay Iwillhearfromthe Ms Johnson Mr Mayor counselisalsohereforthepetitioner Mr Mayor Okay TheClerk Butweneedtheobjectors Pleasestandsowecan Mr Russell Seven TheClerk Seven Okay Mr Mayor OkayandIwillandsoyouarecounselforthepetitioner Mr Speaker Yes yourhonor ImJohnGarcia Mr Mayor Okay Wewillgiveyoufiveminutesandifyoucouldstateyournameand addressfortherecordandthenwewillgivefiveminutestoarepresentativeoftheneighborhood associationorthoseinopposition Mr Garcia Thankyou Mr Mayor Commissioners ImJohnGarcia 205BNorth BelairRoad IrepresentMr HenryKiminthisappealreconsiderationforaBeer Wine Licenseat hisstore AttheoutsetIdasktheCommissionerstonoteMr Kimlivesatthis particularconveniencestoreanddoessofortwoyears Hehasnodesiretodenigrateorharmor anywayimpactnegativelyonthecharacteristicsofthisneighborhoodbecauseit shis neighborhoodwhereheliveswithhiswife Iwouldalsopointoutthattherehasbeena conveniencestoreatthislocationsince1926 Heretoforetherehasnotbeenabeerandalcohol beerandwinelicenseexcusemebuttherehasbeenaconveniencestore Andofcoursehis requestisnotforaconsumptionlicensebutinfactonlytosellitmuchliketheothergoods cleaningmaterialsandstuffthathesellsinhisconveniencestore Iwouldalsoaskthe commissiontonotethatSection625oftheAugustaRichmondCountyCodespecifically allowsconsumptionofalcoholatSandHillsRecreationCenter Firstofallwesubmitthatthe interpretationisbeingputonthedistanceiserroneous Partofourapplicationthatisrequiredis asurveythatshowsthatfromthefrontdoorofMr Kim sstorethattothefrontdoorofthe
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communitycenterisroughly650 feet TheapplicablecodeSection6 264showsthatthe methodologyistogofromthefrontdoor godownthestreetorsidewalktothefrontdoorofthe buildingortothegroundswhicheverisapplicable Isubmittoyouthattheonlyrationaland nonarbitraryreadingofthisistosaywhereyouhaveaparkandthatthereisnostructureor courseyougotothegrounds Butwherethereisastructuresuchasinthissituationyougoto thestructuresfromthedoor Otherthanthatyouhaveanarbitrarydesignationwithinthe meaningofthelaw Apropertyownercannotknowwhetherhesincomplianceornot We haveattachedinadditiontotheexhibitinourpetitionthesurveybutwevealsoattachedtwelve photographstoshowasyougooutofmyclient sfrontdoortheentirecommunitycenteris encircledbyagate Thereareno excusemebyafence Therearenogatesorbreaksinthe fencethatallowpedestriantraffic Theentrancemayonlybehadatthefurthestendawayfrom myclient sstore whichisroughlythe650feet Infactifsomebodyobeystheparkingortraffic signals signstheyhavetogotothefarsidediagonallyopposedtowheremyclientsstoreis In additiontothisyouhaveascreenofdensefoliageinbothdeciduousandevergreentreesand bushesandaprivacyfence NotonlythatthisparticularsectionofWheelerRoadmakesan s orsnaketurnsoitisnotevenstayingattheedgeofthepropertyyouhavetolookatthisthatas toMr Kimmeetseveryotherqualification hesmorethan21yearsofageaUS citizen good moralcharacter Heandhiswifehavedirectbusinessinterests Nowithasbeenbroughtupthat theremaybelikelihood Wellfirstofallwesubmitthatsconjecture There sbeennostudiesor anythingtoindicatethatthatwouldbethecase Thelayofthelandistheparktothenorthis actuallydownasteephillandmysuggestionmostchildrenwouldnotwalkupthehilltofinda conveniencestore Hisstoreisaverysmallstore Ithasnomeetingplace Itsveryclosetothe street Itsnotasifminorsormanyotherpeoplecancongregate Thereareotherareasinthe areathattheymay Withinthedistancesrequiredbythestatutetherearenootherschools churchesorlibraries Thereisnohistoryofpreviousincidentsatthestore Wesubmitthatfirst ofallitgoestotheasIsaidtobeginwiththeonlynonarbitrarymannerinwhichtointerpretthe statuteisstructure thestructurenotstructuretogroundwhenthereisastructureinplace Further Mr Mayor Okay sir yourfiveminutesisup Yes sir IsaidIdgiveequaltimesoif theresarepresentativetospeakinoppositionorspeakinsupportofdenyingthelicenseandif youcouldstateyournameandaddressfortherecord Mr Gallop ButchGallop 2911PointWestDrive AndImherebecausewedonot wanttoseethislicensegiven NowIunderstoodexactlywhathesaidbutletmegiveyousome facts WevebeenworkingverycloselywithRichmondCountySheriff sDepartmentabout stampingdrugsout Youllonlyenhancethatifyouallowhimtohavethislicense Nowwhat hedidnotstatethereisachurchonceyouwalkrightoutsidehisdoortotherighthandside whichisonlyabout25feet Therearetwochurches AmInotcorrect Andthereisaschool TheresaschoolbusareathatstopsinfrontofitandthenontopofthatIpersonallyhavehadto callRichmondCountySheriffsDepartmentaboutpeopleloiteringatthatparticularlocation actuallysittingonthefrontporch Whereevertheydidgettheirbeerfromsittingtheredrinking itatalltimesofnight OurthingofitisthatImjustnotgoingtakeawholelotoftime We havedonealottoimproveonthatneighborhood Actuallyyou redoingsomedevelopmentin thatneighborhoodnow Weneedtokeepthatneighborhoodsafeforourkidsandforoursenior citizensthatwehavealotofinthatarea Iwishthatyoudconsiderleavethisalonevoteno
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Mr Mayor Okay thankyou sir CommissionerHolland Mr Holland Thankyou Mr Mayor Mr Mayor inviewofthefactthatisthesecond timethatwevehadourconstituentstocomedownandaskustodisapprovethisparticular license Andthenofcourseinviewofthefactthatthisisthethirdtime Imsorryandinviewof thefactthatwehaveourownMr RobShermanandhisdepartmentwhocomesbeforeusand withexplicitknowledgeinreferencetowhatishappeninginthatparticularneighborhoodand howthatstorewillbesetupinreferencetothatcommunity Sowhenwehaveourconstituents comebeforeuslikethisIthinkthatweasagovernmentandasacommissionweneedtoadhere towhattheyrethinkingandwhattheywillneed SoatthisparticulartimeI dliketomakea motiontodenythoselicenses Mr Beard Second Mr Mayor Wehaveamotionandasecond CommissionerBrigham Mr Brigham Mr Mayor IdlikeMs Johnsontoclarifytheordinance the interpretationoftheordinance DidIhearitwrong Ms Johnson ItwasnotbutMr BrayandMr Brownfromthelawdepartmenthave workedexclusivelyonthisprojectandtheycanmakethatdeterminationforyou Mr Brown MembersoftheCommission Mr Shermansinterpretationofthis ordinance whichwehavereviewedwithhim iscorrect OpposingcounselImsureheswell meaningbuthisinterpretationisfullywrong Hestatesthereisacontroversyorvaguenessasto howthisdistanceismeasured Itisnot Theordinanceprovidesthatifitisachurchbuildingor alibrarybuildingthemeasurementshouldbemadefromthedoorofthealcohol establishment outtothesidewalkdirectlytothechurchorlibrarybuildingandtothedoorofthechurchor librarybuilding Theothermeasurement whichreferstogoingtothegrounds refersonlyto recreationalareas Mr Shermanhasproperlyappliedtherulesfromthedooroftheproposed alcoholestablishmentouttothesidewalk downthesidewalktothegroundsoftherecreational area Thisiswhereopposingcounselsaysitisarbitrary ItisnotuptoMr Sherman Itisnot uptotheCommissionerstodecidewhichonetheywanttogoto Theordinancesaysfor recreationalareasitistothegrounds Therationalbehindthisisthatinrecreationalareasunlike librariesandchurcheschildrendonotgoandhangoutinthebuilding Theyareonthegrounds Thatswhyitgoestothegrounds Thesecondargumentisthatifyouhavethatgroundsthenit hastobetotheentranceandthisisfencedin Children itisnotjustwherechildrenwillleave therecreationareatogotothealcoholestablishmentbuttheyplayonthegrounds Fromthe groundstheycouldbeattractedtothisestablishmenteventhoughthegateisfurtherthan300 feet Thegroundsis210 Secondlytheresanotherbasisforestablishingadenialinthiscase andwhichmaybemoreimportantinthatourOrdinance6 664 f whichsaystheCommission hasinitsowndiscretioncandenyanyliquorlicenseevenifitsfartherthan300feetifitfinds thatthetypeandnumberofchurches schools librariesorrecreationalareaswouldcauseminors tobeattractednottotheestablishmentbuttobeattractedtowhatfrequentstheimmediatearea Andinthatareaevenwiththematerialsthattheopposingcounselsubmittedtoyouhavea
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church youhaveapublicrecreationarea youhavealibraryandyouhaveaschool Youhave everypossibleestablishmentthatcouldattractchildrentothisarea Andonthatbasisifyoure goingtodenythemotionIdothinkthemotionshouldberewordedtoshowthatfortherecordit isshownthecompletereasonsforthemotiontobedenied Mr Mayor Okay Mr Brigham youhad Mr Brigham Ihadanotherquestion Doesanywhereinourordinancesayanything aboutabuildingonaparksiteastodistancerequirement Mr Brown No Mr Brigham Isthatinourordinanceinanyplaceinthislicensingofalcohol Mr Brown Nobuildingisonlymentionedinconnectionwithalibraryorchurch building Itclearlysaysrecreationalarearepeatedlyandconsistently Mr Brigham ThatswhatIwantedtomakesureof Mr Mayor Okay wouldthemakerofthemotionliketoamendthemotiontoclearly statethereasonsfordenialasstatedbyMr Brown Mr Holland Yes sir Mymotionistodenywiththewordsthathavebeen mentionedbyourcounselortoaddtothemotion TheClerk Fortherecord inaudible Mr Mayor Fortherecordcanweread Ms Johnson Mr Brown canyoustatethosegroundsclearly Mr Holland Iheareverythingthathesaid Mr Brown Ourpropermotionwouldbetomovethatweupholdthedenialofthe requestforthealcohollicensebaseduponthefailureoftheapplicanttomeetthedistance requirementpursuanttoAugustaCode6 264 b 1 and d andbaseduponSection 6262f withthelikelihoodofminorsbeingcausedandattractedtofrequenttheimmediateareadueto thetypeandnumberofschools churches librariesandpublicrecreationareasinthevicinityof theapplicantsbusiness Mr Mayor And CommissionerHolland youreamendingyourmotiontoreflectthat Mr Holland Yes sir Mr Mayor Asreadintotherecord
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Mr Holland Yes sir Mr Mayor Okay wehaveamotionandasecond Ifthereisnofurtherdiscussion I feellikeIminacourt Commissionerswillnowvotebytheusualsignofvoting Motioncarries80 Mr Mayor Okay Mr Patty areyoureadyto TheClerk Weneedamotiontotakeitoffthetable Mr Mayor CanIgetamotiontoremoveagendaItem 31fromthetable Mr Brigham Somoved Mr Jackson Second Mr Mayor Wehaveamotionandasecond Commissioners willnowvotebytheusual sign TheClerk Mr Holland Mr Smith motiontoremoveItem 31offthetable Mr Smith Sorry TheClerk Thankyou Motioncarries80 Mr Mayor Okay Mr Patty Mr Patty Thisisanapplicationtobuildaortooperateastructurebuiltonproperty whereformerlyaveryhistoricchurchexistedtooperatethatstructureasachurch Itwasbuilt witharesidentialbuildingpermitafewyearsago Thatsnotanyreflectiononthecurrentowner orthecurrentapplicantbutthatsjustafact ThisapplicationcametothePlanningCommission Therewereobjectorsfromtheneighborhood Itwasdeniedforanumberofproceduraland subsidyreasons AndthereasonIaskedyoutotableissoIcouldreadthosetoyoufromthe ordinance Inordertoestablishachurchseveralconditionshavetobemet Oneattractforthe churchtoestablishyouhavetohavealeast100 feetoffrontageonacollectivestreetoran arterialstreet whichthispropertydoesnot Ithastobeatleastonehalfacreinarea whichthis propertyisnot Structuresneedtobesetbackatleast25feetfromanypropertylinesseparating thesubjectpropertyfromaresidentialzone whichthispropertyisnot Thisstructureisnotand alsoaplanillustratingcompliancewiththeaboverequirementsmustbesubmittedtothe PlanningCommissionbeforetheproposalisplacedontheagenda ThePlanningCommission shalldeterminethatalltheforegoingrequirementshavebeensatisfiedandfurtherthatthe benefitsexceedthedepreciatingeffectsofthechurchontheneighborhood Noplanwasever submitted Thosearethereasonsthatwerecommendthatyoudeny
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Mr Mayor Nobody shandsaregoingup Anybodywanttomakeamotion Ms Johnson Mr Mayor ifyoucould onelasttime though soundforMr JimmyFord andJC Callahantherequestorandthepetitioner Aretheypresent Mr Speaker Mr CallahanispresentbutMr JimmyFordwasillandheisnot Ms Johnson Wouldeitherofyouliketospeaktothisissue Thankyou Mr Mayor Mr Mayor Thankyou MadamAttorney Mr Speaker Mr MayorImReverendJackAnderson PastoroftheNewLife CommunityFellowshipBaptistChurch 2215BungalowRoad Istandasarequestforyouto considerourrequesttowiththeknowledgeofmakingtheadjustmentstotheestablished building Andwehavenotsubmittedtherequestbecausewewerependingyourapprovalforthe saidlocation Thebuildinghasbeenemptysince2005andtheareaisactuallysetforablighted areabecausetheestablishmentnexttoitisalsovacant Nowthecommunityhasvoicedtheir opinionandIbelievetheiropinionisbasedonahandfullofpeople Ifyouperusetheareasyou dofinddrugsandelicitsexinthearea ToleavethatplacevacantisadisgracetotheLaney WalkerDivision AndforthemnottoagreewithitIdon tknowtheirpersonalreasonsor whateveriscomingtotheareaIdonotinsideofthat Butforourgoalistomoveintotakeup residenceandtoservetheLordinthatbuilding Mr Mayor Thankyou sir CommissionerJohnson Mr Johnson Thankyou Mr Mayor Mr Patty couldyoucomeuptothepodium please Thankyou Basedonthequalificationsthatyoujustexplainedtheydonotmeetthose standards Isthereanyadjustmentsthatcanbemadeforthemtomeetthestandardstoputthe churchthereor Mr Patty Yes sir ThereisaBoardofZoningAppealsthattheyhavearighttoappeal andaskforvariancestotheconditionsofzoning Butasfarasmakingadjustmentstocomply theyyouknowthoseareclearlyminororlocalstreetsnotcollectiveorarterialstreets Itsnever goingtobeahalfacreinarea Andthebuildingsitsafewfeetfromthepropertyadjoininga residencesoitcantbeovercome SotheycouldapplytotheZoningBoardofAppealsfora seriesofvariances Asfarascomplyingwiththeseconditions no theycannotmeetthese conditions Mr Johnson Thankyou Mr Patty Mr Mayor CommissionerBrigham thenCommissionerHatney Mr Brigham Mr Mayor arethereanyobjectorshere Mr Mayor Dowehaveanyobjectors Okay CommissionerHatney
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Mr Patty Itis96feet Mr Hatney 96 feet Okay nowtheresbeenachurchinthatareaformorethan100 years Itsnolongertherebuthowdidtheyandthestuffthatyoujustreadifyouridearound Augusta80 ofthechurcheswontmeetit Mr Patty Thishasbeen Mr Hatney Imnotbeingfunny Seriously80 ofthechurcheswilljustnotmeetthat Mr Patty Thishasbeenanissue Mr Hatney Whatmostchurchesdois inaudible askforvariancesbecausenoneof themmeetit Thatdistanceyouretalkingaboutfromthestreetandallthatohno Yourchurch probablydontmeetiteither Mr Mayor Howdoyouknowhegoes Mr Hatney Hegoes Iwouldthinkthattheycouldaskforvariances Ifweapprovethis andthevariancegroupworkswiththembecausetheynormallydothatforchurchesnow They make Mr Patty IcantellyoutheresbeenalotofdebateonthePlanningCommissionforthe manyyearsIvebeenatitaboutthisissuewhetherconvertinghousesandhavingchurcheson everyresidentialstreetfrontisagoodthingorabadthing AndIdontthinktheresanyreal answertoit Icantellyoutherearealotofpeoplethatareopposedtohousesinconfined neighborhoodslikethisbeingconvertedtochurches Andthatsthereasonwehavetheruleswe have Mr Hatney Canthehousebemoved Mr Patty Yes Mr Hatney Oh itcanbemoved Youplanonmovingitbecauseifitcanbemovedit canbemovedover Areyouplanningonbuyingtherestoftheland Mr Patty inaudible Mr Hatney Itallcomestogetheriftheycanmovethebuilding Thatwouldsolvethat
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Mr Mayor OkayandifwegoaheadandacceptthePlanningCommission s their recommendationtodenytheyrestillfreetogobacktothroughtheappealprocessandtrytoget thevariances Correct Mr Patty MythoughtwouldbeandImnotyourlawyeristhatyoucantapproveit untiltheyvebeenthroughthevarianceprocedure Theseareobjectivecriteriathatyouhaveto meetinordertobeapproved Mr Mayor Okay Mr Patty Ithinktheproperprocedurewouldbetopostponeactingonthisuntiltheyve hadanopportunitytogobackthroughthevarianceprocedures Mr Hatney Okay Mr Johnson Imakeamotiontodothat Mr Mayor Mr Mayor Wevegotamotion Mr Holland Second Mr Mayor andasecond CommissionerBrigham
Mr Brigham IwanttohearfromourAttorney Idrather IdlikeMr PattybutId rathergetmylegaladvicefromtheAttorney Mr Mayor Amen Ms Johnson Iwouldconcurwiththat Fortherecord though Mr Pattythisisnota situationthatsanydifferentthananyotherpetitionerthatseeksavarianceorSpecialException Isthatcorrect Mr Patty Thatscorrect Mr Mayor Okay canwehaveamotionandasecond Mr Brigham Followingthanthatwoulditnotbemorelogicaltoallowthispersonto withdrawwithoutprejudicethantopostpone Mr Patty Probablysoduetothelengthoftimethatthishasbeenactive Thishasonly beenactivefortwomonthsIthinkanditwouldtakeatleastanother45daysprobablytwomore monthstogothroughthevarianceprocedures Sothatwouldprobablybethebestroute Mr Mayor MadamAttorney wouldyouconcur Ms Johnson Andthatneedstobethemotionthatsvotedon
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Mr Brigham I llmakeasubstitutemotiontoallowthisapplicanttovoteto withdrawwithoutprejudice Mr Mason Second Mr Mayor Okay wehaveamotionandasecond Iftheresnofurtherdiscussion Mr Hatney Ihaveaquestion Mr Mayor CommissionerHatney Mr Hatney Mr Patty sir exactlywhatdoesthatmean Doesthatmeanoncetheygo throughtheprocesstheycanbringthisback Andyoualsosaidthatiftheymovethehouseit canmeetthecriteriayouretalkingabout Mr Patty Well itcanmeetsomeofthemnow Mr Hatney Noneofitsgoingtomeetallofityouknow Mr Patty Thelots nevergoingtobeahalfacreandthatsnevergoingtobecomean arterialstreetsoyoucantmeetthemallbutitcanbesomeofthem Mr Hatney Itcanmeetenoughofthemthough Mr Patty Theycangrantvariancestoallofthem Mr Hatney Okay Thankyou Mr Mayor Okaywehaveasubstitutemotionandasecond Commissionerswillnow votebythesubstitutesignofvoting Motioncarries80 TheClerk ADMINISTRATOR 35 ReportfromtheAdministratorregardingon goingprojects Mr Mayor Mr Administrator Iwontaskyoutostateyournameandaddressforthe record Mr Russell Whatweredoingis theresseveralitemstodaythatIdliketotalkabout andIappreciatetheopportunitytobewithyoutodothat Wevebeentryingtodoamonthly reportonprogressondifferentandwedliketocontinuethataswecontinuetomoveforward withtheprojectsthatwevegotonthetable Youllnoticeintheagendaitemtodayyoupassed
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severalchangeordersinreferencetoboththeJudicialCenterandthejail eventhelibrary So movingontimeandonscheduleweactuallypouredtheparkinglotintheJudicialCenter yesterday Wedonthaveabuildingyetbutifyouneedsomeparkingthatsavailable Youcan getinthereandparkweshouldgetthatlineshortlyIhope Thelibraryitselfyoucangobuy wevegotbricksgoingupanditslookingwell Inadditiontothatthejailismovingalongfairly welltoo Aswithalltheseprojectswevehadsomealwayssurpriseswhenyoustartbuildingin anurbanareahere Wefoundsomebaddirtinacoupleinacoupleofoccasionsacouplepipers wewerentexpecting Butallinalltheseprojectsaredoingwellandtheyrewithinbudgetand ontimeaswespeak InadditiontothatwhenwelastmetwevebegunworkingonSPLOSTVI Thatpassedwitha70 approvalrate Thatputsusinapositionnowwhereweneedtobegin thinkingaboutwhatweregoingtodoasfarasbondingitemsthatneedtobebondedinSPLOST VI Weanticipatebringingthatlistbacktoyouwithourrecommendationtowardstheendof Julyaswemoveforwardwiththat Thatshopefullytohelpjumpstartsomeofthoseprojects nowthatwevegotafirmfundingmechanisminplacetodothat Sowellbetalkingaboutthat inthenearfuture Inadditiontothatasyouknowthe weneedtocontinueourmillagerate discussionaswemoveforwardwiththat YouadoptedamillagerateinNovember Webuilta budgetonthatanditsnowtimetomoveforwardwithadoptingtheformalmillageratetobuild forthisparticularyear Theressomechallengeswiththataswemoveforward Afairly complexissuethatwerelookingatandIwouldhopethatsomebodywouldbringmeanapkin beforeIelectrocutemyself Mr Mayor No wedontneedthat Mr Russell Itmightmakeitfun SomedaysuphereIfeltlikeIwasundergoingshock therapy ItssomewhatfunnythatweweretalkingaboutthemillageratewhenIdidthat Movinghereforwardaswegoon AndifyougivemeabouttwosecondsIllfigureoutwhat ImtalkingaboutagainasImtotallylost Wedoneedtogoaheadandsetthemillageratein theverynearfuture Wellprobablyrecommendbecauseofthecomplexityissuethatwere lookingatthatweholdaSpecialCalledMeetingsometimethisweektodothat Thechallenges thatarefacedwiththatorasyounoticedwedidnotsetanyincreaselastyearwhenwedidthe budget whichwasagoodthingforourcitizens Thedigesthasgonedownjustasmallamount asreportedbyourtaxassessor Sothatgivesusanopportunitytore lookatthatandwewillbe providingyousomehandoutinformationhopefullyattheendofthismeetingandthenhave somediscussionaboutthatsometimetowardstheendoftheweek We reonatime framethat weneedtodealwithtomakethisdecisionsometimeinthenextweektosetthetentativebudget asatwoweekadvertisingandpublichearingprocessweneedtogothroughandweneedtobe wrappedupsometimeinearlyAugustbasically Forthoseofyouwhoaresittingthereonthe edgeofyourseatstryingtodecidewhatImgoingtorecommendasfarasthatgoesthe recommendationswillbefairlyflatatthisparticularpointintime Wereverycognizantofthe factthatwearegoingtohavetodealwiththelossoftheHomesteadExemptionGrantthatwe had Inadditiontothatourtaxpayersaresufferinglikeanybodyelse Soletmeassureyouthat wereworkinghardtomakethoserecommendationsasreasonableaspossiblegiventhosefacts thatwehavetodealwith ButIamobligatedIbelievetosharewithyoutheimpactofthe decisionswemakeatthatparticularpointintimeandletyoumakethepolicydecisionbasedon thebestinformationthatwecangiveyou Andwewillbedoing that Thenextthingthat you veaskedmetodoseveralweekswereportedontheTradeandExhibitionCenterandthe
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Laney WalkerBethlehemupdate Wevebeenworkingonthequestionsthatyouaskedforthe pasttwoweeksonthatandwouldliketogothroughsomeofthosequestionsandthenprovide someoftheanswersthatyou veaskedtothequestionsthatyouaskedandmoveforwardwith that Boththeseprojectsarechallenging Wearecognizantofthefactthattheyarevery complexissuesthatthey continuetoamazemeinthecomplexityaswecontinuetomove forward Butwehavehitseveralroadblocksinmymindthatwouldrequiresomeadditional thoughtanddirectiononyourparttohelpustocontinuetomoveforwardonsomeofthose processesthere WhatIwouldliketodoisgothroughaseriesofslides Thebookthatyouhave infrontofyouanswersthequestionsthatwereaskedinawholelotgreaterdetailthanwhatIam goingtobeabletotellyouverballyatthisparticularpointintime LetmesuggestthatwhatI sayverballyisbackedupbythedetailinthebookthatyouhaveinfrontofyouheretoday And wellgothroughthataswegoforward Thiswastheactionitemthatwepresentedinitially Youauthorizedmetoworkonseveralofthoseandwillcontinuetomoveforwardwithit Well weregoingtodoitthisway YouapprovedtheconceptplanfortheTEECenterandwehave authorizedthearchitecttomoveforwardwiththeschematicdesignofthat Weareinthe processoffinalizingthecontractwiththeConventionCenteroperatorandthatwillonceagain besubjecttoCommissionapproval Hesbeenoutoftownforthepastfewdayssowevebeen unabletogetthatconfirmed Butmostoftheitemsthatwereoutstandinghavebeentakencare ofandwellbeabletospeaktothatalittlebitlater Theacquisitionoftherealestate werein fairlygoodshapewiththat Afewotherissuesthatwevegottodealwith Thetimelinewell talkaboutthatinafewminutes Laney Walkerandthenwesuggestthattheauthorizationofa bondcounsel YourequestedthatwehavetheAttorneyreviewthatandlookatthatandshehas arecommendation Itsinthebackofyourbookthatwouldtakecareofsomeofthoseissuesas wemoveforward Tourismenhancement Asyouknowallofwhatweredoinghereisbased onourneedtogrowourtourismbase NotonlythroughtheTEECenterbuttheredevelopment ofthehistoricneighborhoodsthatwehave ThefirstoneswerestartingoutwithisLaney WalkerandBethlehem Werevitalizedthoseneighborhoodstotakeadvantageofthehistory thatsthere Itallbeganwiththetransportationfee Itinitiallyprovidesservicetohotelguests astheyvisitthesecentersbytheoperationfundsoftheTEECentertoprovidefundstoenhance thehistoricneighborhoodsastouristdestinationstoprovidefundsfortransportation Whenwe firsttalkedabouttheLaney WalkerBethlehemrevitalizationprojectaswegoforwardwiththat youllseeinyourbook wellletstalkabouttheflowchartstobeginwith Weadoptedthe transitionandtourismfeeonbothprojects revitalizationprojects whichdesignatedthepriority areas We vehadconsultantsonboardwithupfrontmoneythatwegotfromthroughthepay as yougo Wedesignatedtargetsareasbasedondollarsneededanddeterminedthefunding neededofeachphase Werecurrentlyatthepointnowwhereweneedtolookatthepayas yougoprojects theissuanceoftaxabletaxisandbonds theimplementationoftheprojectsand thatincludesthestabilizationofthetargetareas toswapproperty therehabanddevelopmentof theproperties providehousingassistance providedeveloperassistanceandtheendresultisa neighborhoodthatnotonlyreflectsthehistoryofbothLaneyWalkerandBethlehembut enhancesthehistoricbuildingsthatarethereanddevelopsthecommunityaroundthemthats rem Mr Mayor Reminiscent
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Mr Russell reminiscentofthosethatwerethereyearsago Andthatsourhistory andfoundationthatwedealwith Itwasourthoughttotakeisolatedhistoricbuildingsanddeal withthemwithoutworkingwiththeneighborhood providingafamilyfriendlyliving environment Wewerenotdoingourselvesorthecommunityanygreatfavor Sowetookthe highroadindoingbothaswemoveforwardwiththat Partoftheproblemwiththatwasthe allocationofthedollarsavailabletous the 750000for50yearswastheplanthatwasstruck whenweadoptedourinitialtenantsalmostayearandahalfago Thatgivesyouagrandtotalof 37million500hundreddollars Theproblemwiththosedollarsisthattheyovera50 year period AndIdon tthinkanybodywassatisfiedwiththeprogress thatneededtobemade immediatelyandthentryingtoextendthatoutovera50 yearperiod Whattherecommendation wouldbeatthatpointthenwouldbetousebonding thebondtheprincipalwithabouta 14 milliondollarbondedamountoveraperiodof15yearstodealwithbondincrease bondcost Obviouslythatmoneyisnotfree Youhavetopayinterestonthat Andthenuseabout 250000ofthatforthepayas yougoprojects whichwouldallowformoreflexibilitythenwith thebondingprocessthatwehavehere Thatgivesyouatotalof 375thatwelookedatinitially thatwehadasthedollarstoworkwith Becauseoftheneedtocontinuethatprocessandnotlet whatwevedonealreadytostopitwouldbemyrecommendationthatweborrowone millionin theformofeitherabridgeloan ataxparticipationnoteoraloanfromourselvesintheGeneral Fundtocontinuethatproject Wereatthepointnowwherewevegotplans wevegotplanner wevegot theplanisontheshelfitselfandweneedtomakesurewekeepthatplanmoving Theneighborhoodshavebeentotallyinvolvedinwhatsgoingon Wevegottheirexpectations upandtheexcitementIthinkintheneighborhoodishighandweneedtomakesurewedont havealullinprocessandprogressthatwouldimpactthatfeelingofseeingsomethingdone aroundtheminasituationthathasn tbeendoneforawhiletherebasically Oneofthethings thatyouaskedmetodoandthatsbehindTab3inyourbookisthetimelineandmatrix Itgoes intogreatdeal Chesterandtheconsultantshavelookedatasfarasawaytomoveforwardwith that Whatweanticipateisbondingthatover Initialbondingis 7milliondollarstobedoneas soonaswegetapprovalwiththat Theadditionalbondingwouldbedoneovera15 yearperiod inchunksthatwouldgetustothe 14millionthatwerelookingatthereandmoveforwardwith that That susingthefundingstreamofabout 500000outofthe 750000 Wethinkthats prudentnumbertouse Itgivesusanamountwecanworkwith Asyoucanseeinthechart thatswhattheconsultantsaregivenusanideatoactuallygetdonetherebasically Inaddition tothatthe 250000wouldgiveussomepay as yougomoney Andasyouallrecognizethe differenceinthebondinglevelsofthetaxablebondsarelessrestrictivethantheuntaxedbonds butmoreexpensive Thenontaxablebondsarecheaperobviouslybutmorerestrictiveinwhat youcandowiththoseitems Andthentheupfrontmoney the 250000wouldbemoneythat wouldbeatyourdirectionthatwecouldactuallycoulddealwithawholeloteasier Yes ma am Ms Beard Ms Beard Theyhavesometypeofgovernmentrecoverybondsnow Arewelookingat them Mr Russell WhatIwouldliketodoandImgoingtoaskattheendofthedaywhenwe getaroundtodealingwiththatistakingtheadviceofthebondattorneys Therearetwodifferent programsthatthey rebeginningtotalkabout OneofthemistheBuildAmericanProgramthat wouldgiveusabouta40 discountonthebonds Theotheristherecoverybonds Those
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programshavenotyetbeenfullyflushedoutyetbutwewouldwanttohavetheabilitytotake advantageofthatsowecancontinuetomultiplythosedollars Oncewegetthebondattorneys onboardandabletomovewiththatthatsawonderfulideatokeepusingourlimiteddollarsand multiplyingtheirimpact Ms Beard AndIhaveoneotherquestion Ms Russell Yes ma am Ms Beard Youtalkedabout 250000pay asyou go Mr Russell Yes ma am Ms Beard Isthatdefiniteorwillthatdependonwhatcomesin inreferencetothe taxes Mr Russell Itsallbasedonwhatcomesin Asyougetthe350upfront the750that goestotheLaneyWalkerBethlehemprojectandtheexcesswouldgotothetransportation projects Werecomfortablewiththatnumberatthispoint Obviouslyifthingschangesthere s abackoffonthat Iftheydontchangetheresacontinuationthatwegoforward Ms Beard Fred youunderstandyourerequestingmorefundsandmorehotelmoteltax Withallthatyourerequestingwemaynotgettheactual 250000 Mr Russell Ithinkinmyestimationtheexactoppositeisgoingtooccurbecauseaswe continuetoemphasizenotonlytheprogressattheTEECenter thenumbersthatcomeinthereas wecontinuetogrowourtaxbase Asyounoticedinjustthepastseveralweeksandmonths wevehadfourorfivedifferenthotelsopeninAugusta Werethinkingthatwerecontinuingto movethatwaybetter We vegotonetoorighttherebytheHolidayInn twoorthreethatare continuingtobebuiltatthemomentandwevegototherplansonthebooks Soweanticipate thatbeingevenabetterthing ThegrowthatFortGordon thegrowthatVogtle thegrowthat acrosstheriverhereatSavannahRiverwefeelverywellthat sgoingtocontinuetobea momentumthatwevegottherebecauseofthatatthisparticularpointintime Ms Beard Howmuchdidwereceivethisyear Mr Russell IdontthenumberbutIcanfindoutforyou Mr Beard Didwereceivethe 750000fortheyear Mr Russell ThisyearImnot obviouslytheyearsnotoverbutImnottoosure Ican getthatnumberforyouatsomepoint Mr Mayor Mr MayorProTem Mr Mason Um Illwait IneedFred sfullattention
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Mr Mayor Okay Mr Mason JusttomakesurethatImclear Yousaid 350upfront 350upfront youretalkingaboutisfortheoperationalcostsoftheTEECenter Mr Russell Right Mr Mason Okayandthenthe 500000ofthe 750000thatisleftisgoingtowardthe paymentofthebondingoftheupfrontmonies Mr Russell Yes sir Mr Mason Leavinghopefully potentially 250000leftaspay as yougoprojects Mr Russell Right Mr Mason Okay AllrightIjustwanttomakesureImat 350000 Imclear Mr Mayor Okay Fred Mr Holland Letmeaskthisquestion Mr Mayor CommissionerHolland Mr Holland Payas yougo Howlongwillwehavetopaythat Willwebepaying thatpayas yougo Isthereasettimetopaythat Mr Russell Yeahitwillbeforthefulllengthoftheproject thefull50yearssoabout 12milliondollarsasyougoforwardwiththat Mr Holland Fiftyyears Mr Mayor AndjustasFredhassaid Itjust settingasidethepayas yougomoney thatsnotrestrictedisbondfundingallowsyoualotgreaterplayabilityifyouneedtoteardown ahouseifyouneedtodosomethinglikethisyou renotrestrictedtobeheldwithinthebond fund Fred Mr Russell Someofyouhavenotedthatthebondfundsandotherareasarepretty restrictivewithwhatyoucandowiththis Whatweweretemptedtodowasbuildmoneythat youwouldactuallycontrolsoeveryyearthatamountofmoneywouldbethereifthereare projectsthatyouwanttogetdonetofittheparametersofthetaxableortheuntaxablebonds Youwouldbeabletocommissiondirectwithinthatneighborhoodthoseprojectstobedone So thatsthetheorybehindthataswecontinuetomoveforward Thetimelineandmatrix Partof thefunctionofthefundingoftheupfrontmoneyistwofold Wewanttomakesurewehave enoughtomakeanimpactonthecommunity Doingitonehouseatatimeordoingitthatsnot
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goingtobeinmymindnotgoingtocutit Youneedthosedollarsupfronttobeabletohave thatimpactandbeabletodealwiththat Whatyoudon twanttodoisgettofaraheadof yourselvesandgetmoneyinbankthatyou renotabletospendasrapidlyasyouneedtospend inthoseareas Inadditiontothatyouhavetolistentothebondattorneysontheir recommendationsonwhatyoucanactuallybondontherevenuestreamthatyouvegotcoming intoyou Andthatsourbestadviceatthispoint Weve thatmightgoupalittlebititmightgo downalittlebit Weanticipatethe 7millionasthebottomlineofthat Wehopethatthebond attorneysaregoingtohelpusgetabetterdealthanwhatweare roughnumbersthatwere dealingwithnow WehopeweregoingtobeabletotakeadvantageoftheBuildAmericaand therecoverybondstohelpbuysomeofthosedownwhichwouldmeanlessinteresttherefore moredollarstospendontheprojects Thosearethingsthatoncewegetthebondattorneyson boardandmovewithitwellbeabletodothat Ithinkifyoulookbehindpage Tab3 Mr Mayor HangofforasecondFred CommissionerHatney Goahead Mr Hatney Goaheadandfinishyourstatement Mr Russell IfyoulookbehindTab3thatexplainsthetimelineandmatrixthatwere lookingatinitially Chesterandtheconsultantshavedoneagoodjobinputtingthattogether Youknowwhatwerelookingataremultiplefunctionshelpingpeoplebuildhouses helping peoplemoveintohouses helpingpeoplefigureouthowtoaffordhousesandthosekindsof things Sowerelookingatrevitalizingtheneighborhoodandthats thewholepurposeofthe project Mr Mayor CommissionerHatney Mr Hatney Ivegottwomaybethreequestionsrightquick Onewhenyoulookbehind IthinkitsTab11 andittalksabouttheLaney WalkerBethlehemRevitalizationProject The corporatefundinvestmentyouvegotbondfunds 14millionpayas yougoastwelve andthe estimateofpublicfundsgoesto265andreallythatselevenmillionshortofwhatisalready beenagreedupon Mr Russell Right Mr Hatney AndtheotherquestionIwantedtoaskisthatwe youmentionedthatyou don twanttohavemoneyinthebankthatyoucantspend What sthedifferenceinhaving bondmoneyinthebankthatyoucantspendrapidlyandhavingSPLOSTmoneyinthebank thatyoucantspendrapidly Mr Russell IfIcananswerthoseinreverseorder Mr Hatney Okay Mr Russell thelastquestionwouldbethebondmoneywouldbethefactthatthere areproprietaryissuesthereatsomepoint Soyouvegottobeabletobetheoreticallycomplete theprojectreasonablywithinaboutthreeyearsortheressometaxingimplicationsthere The
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otherisifyouwanttomakesureyoubalanceitoutasequallyasyoucantomoveforwardand thatsjustourfeelingormyfeelingonhowtogetthatdone Themainfunctionofthe 7million dollarsisthefundingstreamtogetthereandthatsthemainlimitingfactorthatyouvegotthere Mr Hatney Butthereisnoothermoniesgettingustothe 375 ThatswhatIm inaudible Theresnoneofthathere AndtheconcernIvegotwiththatisthat thesame questionIaskedaboutthedifferenceinputtinghavingSPLOSTmoneyinthebankthatyou dontspendbecausethatswhatwevedonewiththeTEECentermoney Itsinthebankits accruedprettycloseto 10milliondollarssinceitsbeeninthebankanditsstillthere Sohow isitthatyoucandothatforoneprojectandyoucantdoforanotherandhelpmeunderstandthat becauseIdontunderstandthatatall Pluswhatsgoingtohappentootherelevenmillion Mr Russell Letmeanswerthatpartfirst Mr Hatney Okay Mr Russell Theelevenmillionisthecostofdoingthiswithinthenext15 yearsas opposedtodoingitovera50yearperiod Ifthe 375milliondollarsisat 37 650ayearfor50 years Okay Thatwouldgiveyou 750000ayearfor50years Whatyou redoinghereby spendingthatmoneyupfrontisgettingthisprojectdonetodaytomorrowandthenextdayas opposedtowaiting50 yearstoseethathappen That stheinterestcostofdoingbusinessup front ItsourfeelingthatitsworththatmoneytomoveitupfrontsothatpeoplelikeyouandI willbeabletoseetheendresultsofthisawholelotsoonerthanwaitingfor50yearstoseethe endofthisproject Mr Hatney ThatpartIunderstandbutmyquestionisandmyconcernisIdont understandhowwecanput 20milliondollarsfortheTEECenterinthebankanditsbeenin theregoingonfouryears gainnearly 10milliondollarsoverall Andyouresayingthat s moneyupfront Youknowitsbeenbondedalready itsinthebankbutnothinghashappened Nowyouresayingthatwecantdothe 375thatwaybecauseifyoudidthatthatwayIcansee theinterestyou retalkingabout Buttheresnointerestaccruedongetting 7millionayear maybenevernomore Therewontbeinterestaccruedonthat Mr Russell Letmetryitanotherway okay WiththeTEECentermoneywesaidthat weweregoingtoborrowthatupfronttojumpstarttheprojectsowecouldmoveaheadbecause its willtheoreticallyaddtoourtaxbase Mr Hatney Okaythatwasfouryearsago Mr Russell Right Mr Hatney Aintnothinghappenedyet Mr Russell Well yeah Iagreeandthatsbecausewevenotbeenabletodoanything yetokay forvariousassortedreasons Ittookusawhiletolocatethelocation itstakenusa greatwhiletocontinuetomoveforwardwiththeproject Butwhatyouhavewiththat 20
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milliondollarswasadesignatedrevenue sourceofrevenuethatweregoingtocollectthat moneywithin x numberofyears okay Samethingyou vegotwiththeothermoneybutthe numberofyearsis50insteadofthefiveforthepaybackintheSPLOSTmoney Sowhatthe problemthenatthatpointisasyougotothebankandsayIwanttoborrowthismoneytheylook atokaywiththeSPLOSTmoneyandfortheTEECentertheysaidokayyouregoingtobeable topaythatbackoveralittlebitmorelimitedamountoftimebecauseyou vegottodedicateit ratherthandosourcethroughSPLOSTtodothat Sotheysaidokaywellgiveyouthismoney andyoucandothat Withthismoneywevegotadedicatedrevenuesource okay Butthetime lineissomuchlongerthatitshardertofindinourestimationitsimpossibletofindalending institutionorbondinginstitutionthatwouldgiveusthetotalamountwithapaybackofover50 years Mr Hatney WhatsthemaximumtimeyoucangetforSPLOSTpayback Becausethe reasonIaskedthatisthegaragethatsbuiltdownonthecornerof9th andGreenewhichnever madeanymoneyitstillaintpaidoff Mr Russell The30 yearbonds Mr Hatney Idontknowwhatitisbutthirtyyearsisthirtyyears itwouldtakethirty yearson 38millionfigureoutawaytodo30yearsonthirty seven Mr Mayor CommissionerBrigham thenCommissionerMason Mr Brigham Mr Russell Mr Russell Yes sir Mr Brigham Imgoingtostartwith9th andGreeneStreet Idontbelievethatwasa SPLOSTproject Ibelieveitwasabondedprojectthatwasdonewithcitybondsbackinthe 1970s Mr Russell Isthattheparkingdeck Mr Brigham Theparkingdeckat9th andGreene ThatwasneveraSPLOSTprojectso letsdontmixapplesandoranges AsfortheSPLOSTprojectletstalkabouttheTEECentera minuteandthebondingoftheTEECenter Webondeditfouryearsagoandatwhatpointwillit startpayingoffthegarageonthatbecausewehaventspentthemoney Mr Russell We reobviouslyinacontinualreviewofthatthisparticularpointintime Theestimatedwas Mr Brigham Itscomingupveryclose though Ibelieve Thefactthatwehavent spentthemoneytobuildtheTEECenterIbelieveitsgoingtocostusbecausewedonthaveto payarbitressfeestotheFederalGovernmentfornotspendingthemoney Isthatcorrect Mr Russell Atsomepoint yes
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Mr Brigham AndIsuspectitsgoingtohappenprettysoonsinceitsbeenfouryears andwehadntmanagedtospendanymoneyorverylittlemoney lessthan 400000Ibelieveon theTEECentersofar IsthatabouttherightfigurefromwhatIrememberthefiguresbeing Mr Russell IdontknowspecificallybutIwouldestimatethatyourefairlyclose Mr Brigham OkayIbelievethenwearetryingtomixmoniesthatdontmix Ifyoure talkingaboutSPLOSTdollarsweonlyhavefiveyearstoraisethemoneysotheygottobepaid offinfiveyears Theothermoneyitsgoingtotakealongtimetoraiseitbecauseitsovera longperiodoftime Wevegottothinkintermsofwhatpocketweredealingwith Iamvery concernedthatwerenotmovingfastenoughandIcertainlydontwanttoseeuspayingarbitress feestotheFederalGovernmentfortheTEECenter Ithinkthatwouldbeatotalwasteof taxpayerdollars Andthatiswhatwearegettingclosetodoing Mr Mayor Okay CommissionerMason Mr Mason Thankyou Mr Mayor heactuallyhadalotofwhatIwasgoingtosay therebecauseIwascuriouswhenwouldwestartpayingoffthatfortheTEECenter Iknow wereobviouslygettingclosesomethingdefinitelyshouldhavebeendoneawhileback Ithink andunfortunatelyheleftbutIthinktheconfusioncomesin inthisparticularproposalherethat youhaveisthatbasicallywhatyouresayingitsalwaysbeenstatedthat 375milliondollarsis goingtobeputintothehistoricdistrictofLaney WalkerBethlehemandIthinkIveheardyou saythatwasbecauseofthe 750overthe50 yearsanditsnot nothingwasbonded Butnowit appearstomethatwerelosingelevenmillionofthatthirty sevenandahalfifwegowiththe proposalasitstatestodaybecauseofthefactthatitsgoingtocostusthatelevenmillionin interesttobondfourteenmillioniswhatyourebasicallywhatImlookingathere Isthatnot correct Itsgoingtocostaboutelevenmillion Sowhatyou rereallygoingtoendupwith perhapsintheLaney WalkerBethlehemareaattheendofthedaysome15yearsdowntheroad tobesomethingintheneighborhoodof 265milliondollarsorsoversusthethirtyseven Mr Russell Thatspublicinvestment right Mr Mason Sayagain Mr Russell Publicinvestment yes sir Mr Mason Whatdoyoumeanbythat Mr Russell Ifyouletmegojustalittlebitfurtherwecantalkaboutthepotentialfor leverageinthosedollars Mr Mason Okay IknowwhereyouregoingtherebutIjustwanttokindofclearthat upbecauseyouknowtherewasa somediscussionintermsofyouknow nowthere salossof elevenmillionnow Butyouvegotto Ijustwanttokindofclearuptheunderstandingofwhy itappearsthatwayorleastwhatyouresayinghereisbecauseone weverestructuredthedeal
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ortheagreementintermsofinsteadofoverthe50 yearsitwouldbefifteenandthenyou re jumpstartingversusdoingthe 750everyyear Mr Russell Thatsexactlyright Sothecostofdoingitsooneristheelevenmillion dollars Wecoulddoitoverthe50yearsat 750ayear losetheefficiencyofdoingitsooner andlosetheabilityforanyofustoeveryseethe wellsomeofustoeverseethisprojectended at50years Soourrecommendationtobewejumpstartit wetakethecostoutthatweregoing toloseandthenmoveforwardwiththatsothatwegetitdone Mr Mayor AndFredIjustwanttotakeyoubackonsomething YousaidIthinkthat youknowifprivateinvestmentislookingtocomein 750000ayearisnotahugecommitment Werenotcommittingtogoinginandmakingastrongimpactonthecommunity Andbasically privatedeveloperswanttohavetheirrisksminimizedandsotheywanttoseeIthinkitsbetterI meanIhatetospendelevenmilliondollarsininterestcosts ButIthinkyouregoingtoseethe leverageeffectandmoreprivateinvestmentinthoseareasifwereallydofocusmoreonthe upfrontcostsandgoinginandmakingastrongcommitmenttotransformthoseneighborhoods upfront Mr Mason Justtoaddtothat Idowanttosaythatifinfactthiswassomethingthat wasattheendoftheday whateverdaythatmaybechosen265comesintotheLaney WalkerBethlehemRevitalizationProjectbutmakenomistakeaboutitwe restillpaying We stillgottofindthatsourcetopaythatelevenmillionbecauseitsnotgoingover50 yearsits goingoverfifteen Sowestillhaveto Mr Russell Yourenotpayingthoseinthefifteenifyouusethemoneyupfront Paymentswillgooutfurtherthanthefifteenyears Mr Mason Andyoullwanttosaythatalittlebitlouder Mr Russell Yourenotfinishingthepaymentovertheperiodofthefifteenyearsyoure borrowingthemoneyupfront Itslikemortgagingahouse abighouse arealbighouse You knowyoudontpayforitallupfrontyoupayupfrontwhatyouvegotanditsovera30 year period Mr Mason ThatswhatIneedtohear Mr Russell Andthatsovertheperiodoftimethatyouvegotthere Soitsnotover with Mr Mason Idontwantanybodytothinkthisisoverinfifteenyears Mr Russell No nobutyougettoliveinthehouse Mr Mason Igetthat Ijustwantallthefactstocomeout
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Mr Russell Right Thatswhereyoureright Yougettoliveinthehouseorwegetthe benefitfromthehistoricneighborhoodsandthepeoplegettolivethereandbenefitfromthe improvedconditionsbuttheypayforit orwepayforitoveranextendedperiodoftime Mr Mayor Andjustabottomlinedeal IfyoutoldmeIllgiveyou 26milliondollars tospendin15yearsor 37andahalfmilliondollarstospendinfifty Idtakethe 26million dollars Fred Mr Russell AndthepointIwasgoingtothatyoumentionedisourconsultants APD havebeenworkingwithus Theyretheonesthatdidtheplan Theyretheonesthatdidthe timeline TheyretheonesthatdidtheneatpicturesthatIdidn tshowyouasecondago Itwas ontheboard Weaskedthemabouttheirhistoryinleveragingdollars okay Thatmeanshow muchdowegetoutofthepublicdollarthatweinvestbytheincreaseintheprivatedollarsthat arespentinthatcommunity Theygavemeanumberinitiallyofabout9101 Isaidthatsa littlehigh Imalittlebityouknowthat salittleoptimisticforme Theywentdownto52 okay Theirhistoryinthepasthasbeenbetterthanthat okay InMaconIthinkweweredoing about910 IthinkiswhatChesterhastoldme Butat52 leveragingthe52that265 commitmentfromthecity whichwasyouthirtysevenminustheinterestcostscomesoutto 16483000 16483000000istherealdollarsthatweanticipatebeingspentinthat community okaywiththeseedmoneythatwehavedevelopedthroughthe 26000million dollarsthatwevegot theinvestmentofpublicfunds Thatsprettyimpressiveaswegobackto lookatthat InthebookagainwhatwevegotiswhatIaskedthemtogiveyouisaninventory ofhistoricproperties ItsonthebackbehindTab4 Thisincludesmorepropertiesthatare actuallyinLaney Walker Mr Mayor Um wevelostourquorum Mr Mason Thatsunacceptable Yourekidding Mr Mayor No Excusemewevegottowaitasecond JoeJacksonisstretchinghis back AndCommissionerHollandwillberightbackaswell Theyneedtohavesomesortofa systemwherebeingateitherendtheyneedto wevegotaquorumback Fred goahead Mr Brigham Yourebackup Mr Russell Mr Russell Sowhatyouvegottotallyisabout 164milliondollarsthatwerelooking atinthatcommunitybasedonourwillingnesstoinvest 265milliondollarsandpay approximately 11milliondollarsininterest AstheMayorjustsaidafewminutesagoyou knowifyougivemetwentysixnowversusfiftyinfiftyyearsIlltakeitinaheartbeat Ifyou giveme 164nowversusfifty thirtysevenin50yearsIlltakeitawholefasterthanthat Iwas talkingaboutbehindTab4there sacopulationdonebytheDepartmentofHistoryinSouth CarolinainColumbiaofsomeofthehistoricsitesthathavebeeninAugusta Georgiainthe African Americancommunities Ifyoulookatthatitgoesfrompageandpageandpage Thats whatwe retryingtobuildonhere SomeoftheseareinLaney Walker someofthemarent ButasyouknowwellenoughknowwedecidedtostartinLaney WalkerandBethlehembecause yougottostartsomewhere Youtakethatmoneyandexpanditovertheentirecommunityonce
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againlessenstheimpact Onceweresuccessfulhere oncewecontinuetodrawpeopleoncewe continuetobuildthingswewillbeabletolookatothercommunitiesandmoveforward Ifyou taketherecoverybondsthatMs Beardtalkedaboutwemightbeabletousethoseinareasaswe goforwardthere SoIthinkthosethingsareimportant Ithinkthecrucialissueisthatwego I meanthatseemstobewherewereat atthispoint Ifyoulookatthenexttothelastcolumnof thisitsaysConditionofStructures Waytoomanyofthesedontexistanymore Waytoomany ofthesearenthere WaytoomanyareinbadshapeandIdontthinkwecanaffordtocontinue toletthathistoricaspectofourcommunitytocontinuetodeteriorate Weneedtoactandwe needtoactsoontogetthatdone Mr Johnson Mr Mayor Mr Mayor CommissionerJohnson Mr Johnson Thankyou Mr Mayor Fred Iunderstandexactlywhatyou resaying especiallywhenitcomestothemoniesthatsgoingtogointoLaney WalkerBethlehem AndI donthaveaproblemifwewasabletobondtheentire 265milliondollarsoverthatperiod Butweretalking 11milliondollarsininterestjustonusdoingitat 7millionin 7million dollarincrements Andtomethatshigh AndIthinkwhatneedstohappenfirstandforemost IdliketokindofgobackalittlebitifIwill ThisisacommunitythatsbeeninAugustaavery historiccommunityandIthinkitsimportanttoallofusjustasHarrisburgandotherareasthat weneedtofocusonrebuilding AndthatiswhatIcalltheleastofourcommunitiessoIdont wantittogetcaughtupbeingablackorwhitething AndIthinkthatitsacommunitything thatwewanttoinvestbackintoourcommunity ButalsoweneedtolookatotheravenuesandI thinkyoubroughtsomegoodpointsupwiththisandthatisdefinitelysomethingthathopefully wecanlookforwardto totakeplacethere ButIdontseehowwecan firstofallIthinkwe probablyneedtogetamoredefiniteanalogyfromourBondCounseloronthisbecauserightnow IthinkitsbeingguesstimatedonhowmuchmoneyweregoingtospendininterestonthisandI thinkthatsprobablygoingtobethenextsteptofindoutdefinitelyhowmuchitsgoingtotake andwhatkindofpercentagewewillhaveonbondingthesedollarstodoLaney Walkerand BethlehemaswellasevenwhatneedstobedonewiththeadditionaldollarsfortheTEECenter Mr Russell Imsorry Youreexactlyright ImeanuntilImgiventheauthoritytoput abondcounselonthistoissueafinitenumberitsflexible Imeanitsdifferenttodaythatitwas yesterdaybasedontheinterestrates basedonthosekindsofthings Sowhatatsomepointyou needtodoisgivemetheauthoritytobringbackthosebonddocumentstoyoutohireabond counsel bringthosedocumentsbacktoyouandcometoapointwhereweknowthaton Tuesday August2nd therateis x theproductisthisandwecaneithersignitornotsignitat thatpoint Butuntilthenyouknowyouregiven youknowwerecomfortablewiththe numbers wefeelgoodaboutitbutyoureexactlyright Untilwegetthatdoneitsstillanarea whereyouvegotmybestguessbutthatsallitis sir Mr Johnson Well isitpossiblethatyouandGeneralCounselcanputthattogetherto getwiththerecommendationthatshebringsbeforeyoutomaybelookatgettingtheBond Counselonboardtogiveussomedefinitefiguresonwhatwereanticipatingoverthisperiodof time
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Mr Russell Youllfindintheactionitemsattheendofthisarecommendationfromthe Counselthatwehirespecificbondcounseltodothat Andthatwouldbetherecommendation thatIwouldmaketomoveforward Andthatsatthebackofyourbookunderoneofthosetabs backthere Sowhatyou vegottherethenisatotalof 164milliondollarsthatweanticipate beingputintoLaney WalkerandBethlehem Thecirclethatthiscreatesisthefactthatwhatyou getthereisahistoricaldrawandthatbeginstodrawtouriststhatbeginstodrawother opportunities ThenumbersIlookedatlastweekwehadalmost2000 peoplehereatfamily reunionsstayingatvarioushotelsandcominginfortheweekend Aswerecreatethatkindof neighborhoodaswerecreatethosekindsofopportunitiesinLaney WalkerandBethlehemand thenintheotherhistoricneighborhoodsyoure goingtocontinuetoseethatmarketgrow Youregoingtocontinuetoseepeoplecometovisituswhichputspeopleinhotelroomswhich ensuresthatdollarfeewhichensuresthefundabilityofthatwhichalsoensuresmoneytopayfor theTEECenterwhichisthenextthingweneedtotalkabout theTEECenter Thesameflow thatwevegotherewevegottheconceptplan siteselectionwedid theconceptplan Weve gottheschematicdesignsongoing Landacquisitionisalmostfinalized Theoperatingcontract isalmostfinalized Fundingisthenextissueandthentheparkingissuethatweneedtotalk about Thatgetsusoncewesatisfythoseissuesweneedtoselectabuildingconstructionperson toutilizeadesign tobuildtheprojectandhavethegrandopening Wevedonethoseum Iwent inthebackofthisstuffasecondthere Ihaven tfinalizedanythingwaitingforyourapproval butImgettingveryclosetogivingyouthefinaldocumentsonallthreeifnottheschematic designs the landacquisitionandtheoperatingagreements Landacquisition thegreenpartis theparkfortheTEECenter TheareainblackisownedbytheRiverfrontDevelopment Corporationorsomesubsidythereis thereare Theywillbedonatingthatpropertytowardsthe completionoftheTEECenter TheothertwopiecesofpropertyinnegotiationaretheLock Shopandthewarehousebuildingonthecorner Ms Beard Imsorry Mr Mayor Ms Beard Ms Beard whataretheydonatingagain
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Mr Russell No thatbelongstoadifferentpartyandthat stheindividualthatwere negotiatingthesaleto thewarehouse ThatsnotownedbytheRiverfrontDevelopmentpeople Bothofthoseareownedbytwodifferent theLockShopandthatcornerpropertyareownedby twoprivatepeople Mr Holland Howmuchofthatpropertyisbeingdonatedthesizehowmuchisthat Mr Russell Idonthavethemeetsandboundsbutitsaboutprettymuchtoscale Mr Holland Yes Iseethat Howmuchisthat Mr Russell Icangetyouthedetailonthat Idonotknowthat Mr Mason Fred thispropertythatyouretalkingaboutthereintheblackthatsbeing donated Previouslywhenthiswasbroughttouswewerelookingatpurchasingthisproperty Is thatcorrect Sonowyouresaying Mr Russell We vebeenupintheairaboutthatallalong Illcontinuetohave discussionsaboutitbeingdonatedthey vecontinuedtohavediscussionsaboutwantingusto purchasethat Wehavewonoutinthosediscussionsatthispoint Mr Mason Soadonationiswhatwerelookingat Mr Beard Nowoneotherquestioninreferencetothat Mr Mayor Ms Beard Ms Beard Inonepartoftheinformationitsaidairrightswouldbedonated Mr Russell Idliketotalkaboutthatalittlebitlater Thatgetsintotheparkingissue andtheresacoupleitemswevegottherethatweneedtotalkaboutifyoudontmind Ms Beard Well whatabouttheTradeCenteritself Mr Russell Thatsthegreenproperty Ms Beard Imeantheairrights Mr Russell Webuildabuildingthere Theairrightswouldnotbesignificant Itwould bepartofthebuildingitself Ms Beard Idontknowwhypeoplesaytheyaresignificant Okay Mr Russell Buttheywouldbefor inthesecondpartofourconversationI we they wouldnotbeabletobuildanythingontopofit SoatthispointIdontknow
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Mr Mayor AndwetheCity ImeanwouldownoutrighttheTEECenter Correct Mr Russell Right Mr Mayor Yes Mr Russell Sotheirrightswouldbeours Itsamazinghowlongyoucanpreparefor differentseriesofquestionsandalwaysbeaskedthingsyouhavenoideawhattheansweris I apologize Thenextlinegivesusthelanddonationsthatyouweretalkingabout Imalittlebit aheadofmyselfthere Theassessedvalueofthatoneparcelis 87000 Theparkingdeckwell talkaboutthatalittlebitlater Butthepotentialvalueofthatis 377000thatwouldbedonated Mr Mayor Justforclarity Alltheblackoutlinedparcelsintheproposedparkingdeck areawouldbedonatedtoo Mr Russell inaudible somesubsidiaryorgreaterpurpose greatercompanythanthatat thispoint ThebudgetquestionthatyouaskedCommissionerMason MayorProTemin December2008ourinitialbudgetwas 40595 40million Mr Mason Illtakethat Illvoteonthatnow Mr Russell Metooinaheartbeat ButIdhavetomakeupthedifferenceprobablyand IdontthinkIcouldhandlethat 40millioninFebruary2009aswecontinuetonegotiatewith thearchitects Wevegotitdownto 386 TheAprilbudgetthearchitectsagreedtowas 38 milliondollarswhichisacurrentsavingsofabout 25millionovertheinitialbudgetthatwe hadthere Thatbudget thosebudgetsthatyouaskedforthedetailorbehindpageTab6inyour book eachofthosebudgetsisdetailedout Theworkingdocumentswevegottogettothose numbersincludingthetravelandpaintandallkindsinfairlygooddetailasyougoforwardwith thattherebasically Um whatIdlikeatsomepointinthenearfutureIhopeiswevedone severalofthese Weneedsomeideastocontinuetogoforward Thesearetheactionsitems from61thatwealreadytalkedabout AndthisisIthinkwhatweneedtocontinuetomove as weneedtomoveforwardwiththeseprojects Thatwouldbetoauthorizetheinitialbondingof atleast 7millionintaxableandtaxablefinancingfortheLaney WalkerBethlehem RevitalizationProject Whatthatwouldmeanisyouwouldauthorizeme tobondupto 7 milliondollarsorauthorizemebondatleast 7milliondollars Thatwouldbebasedonthe BondAttorney srecommendation themarketvaluesatthatparticularpointintime ButIcant doanythinguntilyouactuallygivemeatargetnumber Ourfeelingisthatanythingabovethat isnotreachableandanythingbelowthatwouldnotgiveustheimpactthatyouwant Soour recommendationwouldbeatleastsevenandletusandtheBondAttorneysgetyoutowhereyou needtobe asyouwouldapprovethefinaldocuments TheseconditemwouldbetheBond Counsel CommissionerJohnsonwasabsolutelyright Untilwegetthoseonboardandmove forwardwiththatyourestilllookingatmybestguessishereandnorealdocumentthatyouve gotavailablethatyoucanactuallyapprove Thethirditemwouldbethecontinuationof projects WespokealittlebitaboutthatbutIthinkthatsveryimportant Wewouldliketogo aheadandfundthemilliondollarsofthat Thatwouldberepaidbackthroughthefirstinitial
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bondthatyouvegot Wevegotprojectsworking Wevegotconsultantshere wevegot neighborhoodsthatareexcitedandIdontwanttolosethatmomentumthatwevegot We wouldpaythatbackinthefirst firstpartoftheissuetherebasicallyofthebond Twowaysto dothatonewouldbeataxanticipationnoteandsecondwouldbefromthegeneralfund What wewouldliketodoisgetBondCounseltogiveusarecommendationonthat onhowtodothat Thefourthitemwouldbeadoptatimelinethatspresentedforbothprojectdevelopmentfunding Thattimelineisinyourbookandthatsoverthefifteen yearperiodtogetustowhereweneedto be IthinkthatwasimportantaswecontinuetomoveforwardinthatthisCommission recognizesthatitisa15 yearprojectnota50yearproject OntheTEECentersimilarkindsof thingsthatwevegottocontinuethepaymentoftheTEECenteraswevetalkedaboutnumerous timesweneedtolookatthemotelhoteltaxagreementbetweentheColiseumandtheTEE Center Theypayofftheirbondsthebeginningofnextyear Wewouldliketotakeabouta millionofthatandpaytowardstheTEECenterdollars That sstillleavesthemtheoperational moneythattheyhavenowaswecontinuetomoveforward Andthatwouldauthorize 9million intaxesandbondsfortheTEECenterwithatotalcostofupto 38milliondollars Weve talkedseveraltimesbeforeaboutwhotheissuingauthoritywouldbe Imnotuncomfortableat thispointwiththeColiseumAuthority Ithinktheycoulddothatwithoutawholelotof problemsforusatthisparticularpointintime Weneedtogoaheadandcontinuewiththe IntergovernmentalAgreementfortheconstructionandfinancingoftheTEECenterandthat wouldbethebonddocumentitself whichyouwouldneedtoapprove Weneedtoalsore imposeacarrentaltaxandincreasethehotelmoteltax Thatcarrentaltaxwasusedtopayoff thecurrentparkingdeckstocontinuetomoveforwardwithusingitforthenewparkingarea Andwelltalkaboutthatinjustaminute Weneedtocontinuethatfeeotherwiseitgoesaway thebeginningoftheyear Increasethehotelmoteltaxwewouldwanttodo1 there Againit givesusanadditional 600000 DuetothechangeinthelaweffectiveJuly1thatneeds legislativeapprovalnowwhichmeanswerelookingforotheroptionsavailabletous Ive workedwiththeBondCounselIveworkedwiththelegislativetogetthatdone Sothatanitem weneedtocontinuetoworkonthere WewouldliketogoaheadanddoandRGQforaCMat RiskfortheTEECenter ThatworkedrealwellwhenwedidtheJudicialCentergettingboththe contractorandtheengineeronboardearly ItsavedusalotofmoneyIthinkintheJudicial CenterandwedliketocontinuetodothatformatfortheTEECenter Andonceagainas CommissionerJohnsonsaidthemostimportantthingIthinkforthenextactiontotakeistogo aheadandgetthosebondcounselsonboardsothatwecanactuallygetsomerealdocumentsto workfromasopposedtospeculationthatwereabletogiveyourightnow Theagreement werecloseandthatwouldneedyourfinalapprovalandImalmostreadytobringthatbackto you Theparkingissueisonethatwevetalkedaboutatsomelengthinthepast Theparking deckissomethingthatwetalkedaboutatsomepointwiththeDowntownDevelopment Authorityohaboutsix monthsorsoago Inadditiontothatwhatwevedoneislookatsomeof theneedsforthat TherewassomeunreadinessonbehalfoftheCommissiontocommittothat atthisparticularpointintime Theoperator TheRiverfrontDevelopmenthasagreedto temporaryparkingforasolutioninadditionaslongasthereissomeagreementthattheparking deckwouldeventuallybebuilt Canyougobacktothatslide thepictureoftheland What couldhappenistheresabout200spacesthatwerelosingduetoconstructionrightoffthebat Weneedtoreplacethose200 spacesassoonaswebeginconstructionbasicallytooperate concurrentlywiththat Andthatwaspartoftheoriginalagreement Inadditiontothatthereare goingtobesomeextraneedsfortheTEECenteritself Ibelievethatswhereatleastoneortwo
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ofyouhadconcernsabouthowmuchactuallyneedwouldtherebeaboveandbeyondthatforthe TEECenteritselfandIvebeenunabletogiveyouafirmnumberonthat Ifyoulookatthe orangecoloratthebottom thatistheproposedareafortheparkingdeck Allthatlandisowned byRiverfrontDevelopmentandorsomecombinationthereofthatputsitincontrolofthatgroup Theyarewillingtodonatethatlandatthisparticularpointintime Thatwouldprovidethe surfacelevelparkingasappropriate Inadditiontothattheairrightswouldbegiventoussothat wewouldbuildourparkingareaontopofthat Wererequiredtogivethembacktheir200 spacesbasically Theairrightsabovethatwouldgiveustheadditionalparkingwewouldneed Atemporaryfixupfrontwedbeabletoum theyellowycolorthatsactuallybehindthe closer tothebehindBeamiesbehindtheotherrestaurantupthereandalongtheRiverwalkthing That couldbeusedfortemporaryparking TheissuebecomesthereisthatsstillownedbyRiverfront Developmentsohewon tspendmoneyfixingtemporaryparkingthere curbandgutterstomake itappropriatelythatwouldfittheneedsthatwehaveorImeanthatwouldbeanadditionaldollar amountinvestmentthatwouldnotinmymindgiveyouanyreturnwhenyoustartlookingatthe parkingdeckitself Andthatsanoptionthatwevegot WhatIdliketodothenisaskthe architectthataredoingtheTEECenterthatweapprovedandaremovingforwardtheyhavethe capabilitytogiveusafirmnumberoftheparking Theyhavethecapabilitytogiveusascenario ofhowmuchitwouldcosttobuildtheparkingdeck howmuchitwouldcosttobuildthe parkingdeckinphases howmuchitwouldcosttodothetemporaryparkingandthendothe parkingdeck Ibelievethatwouldgiveyouthekindofinformationyouwouldneedatthatpoint tomakeaviabledecisionasopposedtoonceagainmybestguessatthisparticularpointintime WithyourpermissionatsomepointIdliketogoaheadandmoveforwardwiththattoaskthem todothatsoyoullhavesomemoretoolstoworkwithasyoumakethatdecisiontherebasically Theparkingdeckwouldbepaidforoutofthecontinuationofthecarrentaltax Theoperation feeisestimatedtobeabout 100000orsoandcomefromthat Soyou vegotthosenumbers thatwouldgobackintothat Onceagainnoneoftheseareincreasesintaxesinanywayunless yourerentingacarorlivinginhotelatthisparticularpointintime Mr Mayor CommissionerSmith Mr Smith Thankyou Mr Mayor Fred themoneythatthearenawouldbegivingup tobepaidoffinFebruary CantheCommissionmovethismoneyordoesithavetocomefrom theStateLegislature Mr Russell Itsmyunderstandingbasedonourinterpretationisweareobligatedtopay offtheirbondsatthisparticularpointintime Oncethosebondsarepaidforweareinthe positiontorenegotiatethatcontractwiththem Andwehavetheupperhandinthatnegotiation Itsmyunderstanding Iwould Imeanwecouldprobablytakeitalltodowhatweneedtoget donebutIwouldreallythinkthatwouldhandicapthearena Ithinkthey reontherighttrack now Theyseemtobedoingitwell Youknowatsomepointweneedtohavesomediscussion withthemabouthelpingtoimprovethatfacility Andiftheycanmaintainthedirectionthey re goingnowwiththemoneywereprovidingtothemIthinkthatsnotoutsidethe realmof possibilityeitherintheverynearfuture Lastmonththeyturnedaprofit themonthbeforethey turnedaprofit Notmuchbutitsbetterthatthedeficittheywereshowingbefore AndIthink that sonceagainpartofthewholeissuehereisaswedoeachoftheseprojects Bethlehem Laney WalkertheTEECenterandworkwiththeColiseumAuthoritytheyrebuildinguponeach
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other BecauseifyouputmorehousesinLaney WalkerBethlehemyouregoingtohavemore peoplethereavailabletotakeadvantageoftheeventsinboththings Sohopefullyagrowing snowballofthingsthataregoingtobegoodforAugustaaswecontinuetomoveforward Butto answeryourquestionitsmyunderstandingwecan Itsalsomyfeelingthatweshouldn t handicapthembytakingawaymorethanwhattheyneedtooperate Butwhatwewouldbe doingifweredirectsomeofthatisgivingthemawindfallofapproximatelyamilliondollarsthat theyrenotusingnow SoIthinkthatsafairdeal Yes ma am Mr Mayor CommissionerBeard Ms Beard IwantyoutoknowexactlywhyIhavebeenagainsttheTEECenteratthis particulartime AndIhavethisbrochurethatallofusreceived Anditstates notaxpayer bailoutforIndianapolisSportConventionSite Okay Andthisishappeningwithconvention centersalloverthecountry ItsaystheIndianaGeneralAssemblyadjournedwithoutbailingout thecashstrappedIndianapolisCapitalImprovementBoard whichmanagesthecityssportsand conventionfacilities AndthatslikeourColiseumAuthority Theysaidlastyeartheywerein thered 9milliondollars Thisyearthey relookingata 47milliondollarshortfall Okay AnditsayswhenitbecameapparenttheCIB scutswerenotenoughballotandgrandaskedstate lawmakersforthecitycounciltobegivenauthoritytoincreasetheinnkeeper shotelmoteltax ticketsandrentaltaxes Theyalsoaskedforaonecentincreaseinthestatesalcoholexcisetax andtheyrefusedtodoit Andtheyitwasbecauseoftherecession Sotheyreinbigtroubleand Imjustwonderingifwewanttogodownthesameroad Thisissomethingthatisanon essentialitemthatwouldbeverymuchliketheJamesBrownArena Andfor30yearsIvesaid itwasanalbatrossaroundourneck Well thistoowillbeone Mr Russell FortherecordIhaventsaidthatfor30years ButIthinkwhatyouvegot thereisafineexampleofthesituationwheretheydidn thavetheluxuryofthehardworkand dedicationofaCommissionlikethisthathaskeptustoeingthelineasfaraswhatwecandoand whatwecantdo Youvemanagedyourmoneywell youvebeenabletodothekindsofthings thatotherplaceshaventdone AndIthinkthatsjustanexampleofyourwillingnesstomove forwardbutalsoyourwillingnesstobevery veryconservativeinhowyoumove Youknow werenotgivingyousomethingasarecommendationthatwethinkwasgoingtofail Werenot givingyousomethingasarecommendationthatgoesoutside Imeanwehavebeenvery very conservative asyouhavetaughtmeoverthelasteightyearsthatweneedtobe Icantpredict thefuture IcantpromiseyouwhatsgoingtohappenbutIcansuggesttoyouthatyouve neverletmeruntoofarawayfromyouinthepast Idontexpectthatwouldeverhappeninthe future AndIthinktheprogramsyouvegotinfrontofyouareconservative Ithinktheyrewell thoughtout Ithinktheresopportunitiestogrowoureconomy andtakeofsomeoftheissues thatsomeplacesdonthave Itisagambleasiswalkingacrossthestreetthesedaysoranything elsethatyoudo ButIthinkitsagamblethataswebuildonthatisonethatIrecommendthat wetake AndthatsyouknowIthinkitssomethingthatwillcontinuetomovethiscommunity AndIthinknowsthetimetodothat Ithinkyoureabsolutelyright TheJamesBrownCenter iscomingaround Theyredoingwell Theyrebringingeventsherethathaveneverbeento Augustainmytenurehere Themanagementteamthereisdoinggoodstuffasrecognizedbythe amountofcarsthatareparkedthereontheweekends Ithinkthesamethinghappenswithour ConventionandVisitorsBureauastheybringinconferencesandtheybringinpeople Coachis
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ontheirboardandheworksdiligentlytomakesuretheywegetthebestbangfortheirbuckfrom themandIthinkyoucanlookatthenumberofpeopletheybring Thenumberofconventions thenumberofopportunitiesthatthenumberoffamilyreunionseven Thatamountstoalotof moneyforourcommunityandCoachcantalkaboutthosekindsofthingsonandon Andthose thingsmakecontributionstoourcommunity YouknowIdontthinkthesearewildideas I thinktheseareideasthatarewellmeasuredandfundedthroughaconservativemechanismtoget usthere Andthatswhatwereaskingyoutodo Mr Mayor AndIdjustliketopiggybackonwhatFredsaidalittlebit Ithinkthatthe JamesBrownArenaisthegreatestexampleofonceapropermanagementstructurehasbeenput inplacetheynowhaveturnedaprofitfortwomonthsinarowinthemidstofaverydifficult economy AnditwasstatedattheintroductionoftheNewAugustaTomorrowMasterPlanfor downtownthatthesetimeseconomiesarecyclical Thisisreallythetimetoplanandthetimeto build Wesawtheestimatedcostoftheprojecthaddroppedfrom costsavingsof 25million dollars Fred BecausewebasedonmaterialcostsandeverythingandthiseconomysoIwould saythatnowisthetimetobuild ButalsoIjustwanttoapplaudourCVBtoo Whentheyshare withusthatitlookslikeitwouldhavean 11millionyearlyeconomicimpactIbelievethem Theyvedonetheresearchonthat JustlookingforwardtoSeptemberwehaveourfirstIron MancomingtoAugusta 3000participants Nowthatsnotwhoalltheyregoingtobringwith themthatisshowshowtheireffortsarepayingoff AndtwoweeksagoIbelieveitwasitwas announcedthattheInternationalMountainBikingAssociationnextyearisbringingtheirbi annualsummittoAugusta Thisisaninternationalconferencethatwewerecompetingagainst Madison WisconsinIbelieveFredtogetwhichisthehomeofTrekBicycles theheadquarters ofTrekBicycles InternationalMountainBikingAssociationsmajorsponsor Webeatout Madison Wisconsintobringthemhere SoIthinkobviouslyIwouldliketoseeusgetthe GMAAnnualConference IwouldliketoseeusgetACCGtoobecauseImgreedy Butwe justdownatGMA Wedont wecouldgetthembutwedonthavethespacetoputthemin Wedonthavethefacility So Ms Beard Ms Beard Savannahhasgottenthemeveryyearandtheyhavenotbrokenevenyet Mr Mayor But Ms Beard Neitherhaveanyoftheothersinthisarea Andinmostcitiestheyare sellingthistypethingoffatthisparticulartime NowIthinkitswonderfulifAugusta sdoing thatwellandweregoingtoknowwhenwestartworkingonthebudgetnextweek ButwhenI thinkofhowourstateisdoing howtheyhavecuthowtheyhaveactuallycutus Allofthe travelhasbeencutandIthinkitsreallytimeforconcernanditstimetoreallygivethought Andhowisgoingtohurt Wehave 20millionplusforthisontheshelf Whynotholdoffuntil thingsclearupabit Mr Mayor IthinktoosomethingthatCommissionerBrighammentioned Becausewe havenotbeguntospenddownthosemoniesweareinanarbitralsituationwherewegoingto havetostartpayingapenaltyforthosemoniesjustsittinginthebank
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Ms Beard WhenIlookacrossthebridgeandseethatmuchofamunicipalbuilding goingupfor 21millionandweresayingthatweneed 38foraconventioncenter Itjust doesn tmakeawholelotofsensetome AndunderstandthisImnotagainsttheconvention center Wehave 20millionpluswithinterest Butifwecannotdoitwiththatwereallyneed tothinkaboutwhatweredoing Mr Mayor AndMs BeardIjust Ido Ms Beard inaudible Mr Mayor Yes ma am andIrespectfullydisagreethatImnotaprofessionalinthe ConventionandVisitorsBureau Butifourprofessionalswhodealwiththeseeverydaysay thatthisis thatweunderfundedittobeginwiththatthisiswhatweneedtobuilditImgoingto taketheiradviceasopposedtomakingmyownassumptions CommissionerJohnson Mr Johnson Thankyou Mr Mayor IdounderstandtheconcernsthatMs Beardhasin regardstothis Anditisaconcernofmine IvespokentoFredaboutitafterreadingthe BookingsInstituteReportaboutconventioncenters Idothinkitsagoodtimetobuildbecause theeconomyisdownandpeopleareIguessscramblingforyouknowjobsandthingsofthat nature Andofcoursethematerialcostisgoingdownalittlebit ButIdothinkweoughtto lookalittlebitfurtherintowhereweregoinginAugustaandanoverallplan AndIthinkwe stilldonthaveaoverallentertainmentplan AndwhatImeanbythatisifweregoingtobring conventionstoAugustawevegottohavestuffforthemtodowhentheygethere Whenthe meetingsovertheclassisoverandthatsgoingtocreatemorerevenueinthecity Andright nowIthinkwerejustkindofminimizingourbasetojustthehotelandmayberentalcarsand werenotlookingatentertainmentandthingsofthatnature Soweneedtotakeastepfurtherto wherewewanttogowherewewanttobewithAugusta Andthatssomethingwehaventbeen doingbecausetheresplentyofotheropportunitiesforustomaximizehowmuchmoneywecan generatewhenpeoplecomeintoAugusta WhenyoulookattheMastersandothervenuesthere shouldbesomethingelsegoingonforpeopletotakepartintogeneratemorerevenueespecially duringourtaxdigest Sothesearethethingswereallyneedtostartputtingtogetherbecauseif notwereplanningtofail okay Andwedontwanttodothat SoIdothinkitisagoodtimeto build Hopefullybythetimeifthisgoesthroughbythetimeithappenstheeconomywillhave turnedaroundsomewhat Butwereallyneedtoparticularlylookintodoingsomethingthats goingtoopenthiscityup We vegottostopthinkingsmall Wegottostartthinkingbigand makesurethatwelookatplanningforthefutureofjusttheconventionandothervenues throughouttheCityofAugusta Mr Mayor Well CommissionerJohnson Iagreewithyou Wedoneedtolooktowards thefuture Andoneofthethingstocommittoourentertainmentvenuesandourqualityoflife initiativeIhadmadementionImoderatedapanelattheGeorgiaMunicipalAssociation Going GreenWhileStayingintheBlack MayorRonLittletonofChattanoogawasoneofmypanelists andhestressedthefactthatthewaythattheybroughtVolkswagentoChattanoogawastheir qualitytolife ButtheynowhaveandboyIwishwehadthishere 27countiesintwostates planninginacoordinatedfashion onhowtoaccommodatebringVolkswagenin Andthats whatweneedtobethinking Weneedtothinkbig CommissionerMason didyou
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Mr Mason Uh yes TwothingsoneIagreewithCommissionerJohnsontoacertain degreeintermsofyouknowthebuildingoftheTEECenter Ivemadeitveryclearallalong thatthepeoplevotedforthatin2005andIthinkitoughttobedone Itsjustamatterofhow weregoingtodoitandthefundingmechanism ButmoreimportantlyIthinkaswereplanning forthefutureweoughttolookatbringinginmorethanjusttheconvention ImeanandIspoke tothisbeforeinreferencetohighschooltournaments basketballgamesandthesetypesofthings thatdrawalltypesofincome taxgeneratedincomeintoourarea SoIwouldkindofhopethink outsidethebox TheonlyproblemIhaveonthisthatitjustreallydoesnotcurrentlyhaveany seatingcapacitysoitlimitsthetypesofeventsthatwecanactuallybringinandactuallymake moneyfrom Andthattomeisunfortunate Um atthispointthoughIpersonallyneedsome timetolookatthisbudgetthathepresentedhere thelineitemssoIcanhavesolevelofcomfort ability ButatthesametimeIthinkweoughttogive tasktheAdministratorwithacouple ofthingsatthispointthatmaybethatwecanagreeupon Onebeingtomoveforwardwith thegettingthebondcounsel Wetalkedaboutthat Wecantreallyhaveanyrealwarmand fuzzy asIliketosayitwithoutknowingtheactualnumbers Youknowyouredoingafantastic jobyouknowbutatthesametimeIdliketohearfromtheexpertsyouknowinthatparticular area Mr Mayor Amen Mr Mason asfarasbondcounselisconcerned Um andwereallyneedtogetdown tothebottomofthisparkingsituation Wevegottoknowwhatweretalkingaboutwhetherits feasible Becauserightnowtheresbeenalotofspeculationanduntilwecanfindoutwhether ornotorwhatthecostis thetypeofphasingin Youretalkingabouthowmanyparkingspaces youretalkingabout weneedtogetsomethingwiththataswellsowecantalk lookat somethingasfarasbondcounselandsomethingasfarasthatanalysisonthatparking Ithink those thatstwothingsthatIwouldofferupasamotiontobeableasanactionitemtodayand um thatwouldbemymotion Mr Mayor Mr Johnson Illsecondthat Mr Mayor CommissionerHolland Mr Holland Thankyou Mr Mayor Itssonicetohearsomebodyusemyphrase thinkingoutsideofthebox YouknowIliketohearthat Evenwhenweweretraveling aroundwehearthat MypointisthatthepresentationofMr Russellhasbeenwellreceived however Istillfeelthatweneedtodomoretweakinginreferencetowhatyoupresentedtous today Sobeforewecangoforwardwereallyneedtolookatthetotalprojectandthetotal programanddosomeevaluationsandsomeanalysisinreferencetowhatyoubroughttous today AndoneofthethingsIdliketomentionisthatfactthat andI Mr Mayor you mentionedyouweredownatGMAandyouwererightnexttotheclassthatIwasinandduring ourtravelingtothedifferentconferencesthatweattend Wealwayshaveanopportunityduring ourtravelingtobeeducatedandbetaughtinthosedifferentclassesaboutthethingsthatare happeningaroundthestateofGeorgia AndbelieveitornottherearethoseallaroundtheState ofGeorgiahavingsomeofthesameproblemsthatwehave Thereforewhenweareoutthere
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withthemnetworkingduringourtravelingandeducatingwiththosepersonswithinthose differentconferencesthatweattend ACCG GMA NAACOandallthosedifferentconferences wehaveanopportunitytonetworkandwecanbringthatinformationbacktoAugustaandwe sharethatinformationwithourcommittees withthecity Andsoyouunderstandandknowthat weretryingtodothebestwecanespeciallyduringourtravelswhenwereworkingongoing andattendingalloftheotherconferencesthatweattend Hopefullywellgetanopportunityto getthistweakedandwellbeabletomoveforwardwiththisproject Ms Beard Mr Mayor Mr Holland Thankyou Mr Mayor Mr Mayor CommissionerBeard Ms Beard Imgoingtorequest thattheyaddthe 1milliondollarssothatwecan continuetomoveforwardwiththeLaneyWalkerBethlehemproject AndImgoingtoremind everyoneherethatLymanDoverandeveryotherprojectwehavesupportedit100 Andwhat hasneverbeenstarted Whathasneverbeenstarted Jerry Mr Mayor IbelieveMs Beardthat Ms Beard Imgoingtomakethatrequestthatitbeadded Mr Mayor Okay wouldyouliketoputthatintheformofasubstitutemotion Ms Beard Yes Isomove Mr Mayor Okay wehaveasubstitutemotionto justbeclearonyoursubstitute motion Yoursubstitutemotionisto Ms Beard Istogooutfor TheClerk DoyouwanttoincorporatewhatMayorProTemandaddonthemillion dollars Isthatwhatyouwanted Ms Beard Yes forLaneyWalkertomoveforwardwiththeproject Mr Mayor Okay Mr Russell Formypresentationtobepaidbackuponthebondingofthe Ms Beard Yes Mr Mayor Okay Wehavea CommissionerJohnson
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Mr Johnson Well IjustwantedtoaskFred Wasit isitdoabletoaheadand incorporatethattodothatandmoveforwardwithwhatyoualreadyhaveintheworkswith LaneyWalker Mr Holland Yeah Mr Russell Yes itsdoableifyouchosetodothat yes sir Mr Mayor Well andletmejusttobecleartoo Don tletmeinterruptsorryaboutthat Mr Johnson No noIjustwantedtomakesureitwasclearonthattobeabletomove forwardonit Ifthatsthecasewecandefinitelymoveforward Mr Russell Itdoestieyouintothefactthatyouaregoingtohavetobondsomethingat somepointtopaythatback Sobydoingthatyouarecommittingtoatleastabondatsome pointwithinthenextperiodoftimetopaythatback Soyouregettingfurtherdowntheslope Mr Mayor Payingbackthat themoneyauthorizedinthatactionitemwouldbe contingentupontheapprovingbondfundingfortherestoftheLaneyWalker Okay Ms Beard We vebeenwaitingalongtime Mr Mayor Okay MadamClerk canyoureadbackthesubstitutemotion Maam Didyou Ms Beard yourmotionwasthereasecond Mr Holland Illsecondit Mr Mayor Okay Mr Brigham Askforarollcallvote TheClerk ThesubstitutemotionbyMs Beard secondedbyMr Holland wasto authorizetheAdministratortohireobtainandmoveforwardwithobtainingbondcounselandto bringbackspecificsontheparkingdeck ie cost sizeandotherrelevantinformationregarding Mr Mayor Parkinganalysis TheClerk Yeah parkinganalysisandtoreceivetherecommendationofthe Administratorforthe 1milliondollarsforthecontinuationoftheLaneyWalkerprojecttobe paidbackwiththebondproceeds Mr Mayor Okay Commissionerswillnowvote excuseme Calltheroll Madam Clerk TheClerk Okay Ms Beard
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Ms Beard Yes TheClerk Mr Brigham Mr Brigham No TheClerk Mr Hatneyisout Mr Holland Mr Holland Yes TheClerk Mr Jackson Mr Jackson No TheClerk Mr Johnson Mr Johnson Yes TheClerk Mr Mason Mr Mason Yes TheClerk Mr Smith Mr Smith No Mr Brigham Mr JacksonandMr SmithvoteNo Mr Hatneyout Motionfails4 3 Ms Beard Mr Mayor Mr Mayor Ms Beard Ms Beard Iamhopingthecitizensoverthiscitywillseeexactlyhowthishasgone downandwillactaccordingly Mr Mayor Okay wehaveaprimarymotiononthefloor MadamClerk just forclarity couldyoureadthatone TheClerk ThatmotionwastoauthorizetheAdministratorwiththehiringand obtainingandtomoveforwardwithbondcounselandtobringbackspecificsonthe parkingdeck ie cost sizeandtheparkinganalysis
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Mr Mayor Rollcallonthatoneaswell OkayCommissionerswillnowvotebyusual Ms Beard Sorry whatarewedoingagain Iwasn tlistening Mr Mayor VotingontheMayorProTemsinitialmotion Commissionerswillnow votebytheusualsignofvoting Ms Beardabstains Mr Hatneyout Motioncarries61 Mr Mayor Okay wedonothavealegalmeetingImtoldtoday CanIgetanamenfor that Withnofurtherbusinesstocomebeforethebodywestandadjourned MEETINGADJOURNED LenaBonner ClerkofCommission CERTIFICATION I LenaJ Bonner ClerkofCommission herebycertifythattheaboveisatrueandcorrectcopy oftheminutesoftheRegularMeetingoftheAugustaRichmondCountyCommissionheldon July7 2009
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