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Subject: meth recipe again From: "Kontac" <> Date: 1999/01/14 Newsgroups: alt.drugs.

hard From: (David Copeland) Subject: methamphetamine sythesis Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <> MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Organization: Pacifier Internet Server (360) 693-0325 Newsgroups: alt.drugs.chemistry

--okay; All you people who want an easy meth systhesis - They don't exist! You have to know some chemistry. Learn some (yes it takes some discipline) or be doomed to fail. So, again, this information is posted for information purposes only. I accept no responsibility for anyone actually using this. If you do you will be subject to state and federal laws and will be subject to fines and/or imprisonment. If you are stupid enough to actually manufacture meth you WILL probably go to prison. This is the 90's. So to make meth from ephedrine- Using l- or pseudo ephedrine place 1000 gms of ephedrine, 250gms of red phosphorus, and 1000ml of hydriotic acid in a suitable round bottom flask. Fit the flask with a reflux condenser and reflux the mixture for 48hrs at 120 degrees C. Add a 10% solution of sodium hydroxide until the Ph is 14. You should get an oil layer and a water layer. Separate the oil layer in a separatory funnel and put it a flask with 3 volumes of water. Rig the flask for distillation and distill the oil water mixture until the oil is mostly gone (except for highly colored globs of oil.) In the reciever flask there should be two layers, an upper oil layer and a lower water layer. Separate the oil layer and mix it with 10% hydrochloric acid until the Ph is 7.6. evaporate the water and it will crystallize into methamphetamine hcl. ------------------------------------------------------Pacifier Online Data Service Dialup SLIP/PPP User To register: (360) 693-0325 or telnet ------------------------------------------------------From: (Loonus) Subject: CLIC Homepage Methamphetamine Synthesis Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <> X-Admin: Organization: AOL Newsgroups: alt.drugs.chemistry "We have observed that mixtures containing red phosphorus, iodine and either concentrated HCl or glacial acetic acid do convert ephedrine to methamphetamine; however, when the phosphorus is omitted, methamphetamine is not formed. Ephedrine was reacted with red phosphorus and iodine in

experience with the typical E-RP-HA when the usually separate step of creating the hydriotic acid is omitted and the three chemicals are just reacted in refluxing water. Purifying pseudoephedrine: 1. Newsgroups: alt. 5 road flares. Bottle white distilled vinegar 6.L. It seems like that is what is being described (along with acid substitution). Pour 50ml of cold water through the X-XS4ALL-Date: Wed. 28 Jan 1998 03:42:03 CET Organization: Replay Associates.replay. H2SO4 5. and collect .com> X-001: Replay may or may not approve of the content of this posting X-002: Report misuse of this automated service to <abuse@replay.replay. 28 Jan 1998 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <6am5tp$mum@basement.drugs. Take the 5 decongestant capsules. Spray can of brake cleaner containing> X-URL: http://www.1. L. alcohol 47%.2 molar ratio phosphorus:iodine) methamphetamine is formed and the 8 hours.1 trichloroethane -----------Procedure: A. varying phosphorus and iodine are (ephedrine:red ephedrine is consumed in the ratios of red phosphorus and iodine.refluxing water.P. Bottle of drain cleaner containg conc. 3. when red in excess of ephedrine in a 1:3. 5 Sinustop Herbal Decongestant tablets containing 60mg crystaline pseudoephedrine HCl each mixed with some herbal ingrediants.chemistry Materials: 1.COM (Anonymous) Subject: Microscale Meth Synthesis Using Grocery Store Materials Date: Wed. sodium iodide 2. Or 300mg of ephedrine obtained thru some other method. 30ml bottle tincture iodine containing 2% iodine. oo 0' ' ' From: nobody@REPLAY.4%. Red devil Lye containing sodium hydroxide 7." Anyone have any thoughts. rest H20 2.1 trichloroethylene or 1.1. empty their contents into a small funnel with a coffee filter. 4.

Cool the reaction solution and add 1/2tsp of lye. This converts the sodium iodide to HI. You should immediately smell the odor of ephedrine. Add 50ml of vinegar and heat the resultant mixure over low heat in a frying pan with 1/2 inch of water. Congradulations! You have circumvented all of law enforcement and have greatly contributed to the end of the "drug war". Cousin Singe From: csc@pilot. Preparing the iodine/HI solution: 1. Take the solution and perform steps A3-A6. 4. Let stand so that the layers seperate. put in a small polyethylene jar. 6. iodine tincture. and add 0. since the brake cleaner vapors will produce toxic phosgene if there is contact with a flame. You now have a solution of iodine and HI. Let cool. D. B. Thus a water (Sean Casey) Subject: Re: Testing for bunk . and heat on a water bath for 24 hours. and auto store chemicals and coffee filters as will happen in the next year) Best regards.njin. Add the pseudoephedrine acetate to the solution of HI/I and phosphorus. Instead use a hot plate or electric stove at low heat only.the liquid in a small jar. You will end up with methamphetamine acetate that you can scrape from the bowl.1g per flare. The reaction: 1.1ml of the H2SO4 drain cleaner. 3. Put the resultant solution in another small jar. 5. Scrape the red phosphorus off of the caps of the 5 flares and store for later use. Heat the bowl in the water bath until no more liquid is left. 2. C. Do not use a gas stove. 2. and heat bottle in a water bath until the purple iodine color goes away. 2. Thats about 1/4inch of liquid in the end of an eye dropper. and add 50ml of brake cleaner. vignegar. Heat on the above type water bath until no more alcohol is left. Using a turkey baster. Add a 1/4tsp of lye to the collected liquid. Pour the entire bottle of the iodine tincture into a small ceramic bowl. You should get about 0. Add the red phosphorus. Preparing the red phosphorus: 1. E: Extraction: 1. drain cleaners. At the bottom will be a solid layer of a pseudoephedrine acetate. (or contributed to the outlaw of all flares. then close the lid and shake vigorously. suck up the bottom brake cleaner layer out of the jar and put it into a small bowl.

but something to be danced with. Vol 48. Add > 1000 grams of red phosphorus.000ml boiling flask with a condenser and mantle. are breakdowns in the face of the commitment to getting from here to there.01 (Win95..not something to be gotten rid of.att. "Methamphetamine Synthesis Via Hydriotic Acid/Red Phosphorous Reduction Of Ephedrine.Date: Fri. basified. Pour in one gallon of hydriodic acid. 123-134] [Provided for academic> To: guest@cyber-state. I) Guest wrote: > > I'm posting this 'cause I'm sick and tired of people asking and no real > answers. etc.drugs. and then precipitated with HCl gas to give methamphetmine> References: <3307B9DA.wolfe.calstate.14C5@postoffice.gina. waves. > > Crank up the mantle and let it boil for 13 hours.0 Newsgroups:> organization: Rutgers University newsgroups: alt. Harry F.att. Now think for a > minute: Take the output off the top of the condenser. 1990.worldnet. The HI salt is soluble in acetone. while ephedrine HCL is not. Etc..chemistry X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.] Sean -``Wind. Do not attempt. 29 Sep 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <44hgdc$> Subject: Re: methamphetamine synthesis Date: Sun. When completely dry.drugs.'' From: josh <mjiicma@postoffice. If methamphetamine looks waxy or oily. But heres the synh. it is probably contaminated with the HI salt of meth. But they are conditions for sailing -. pp. while the HCL salt is only very slightly soluble. an oily by-product of the red-phosphorous/HI reduction of ephedrine--the most prevalent method of clandestine manufacture. put a check valve > in line with a long piece of tygon tubing and bubble the output of the > tube through a bucket of water outside where you are> <43ct9h$oth@cello.CA7@cyber-state. The HI salt could be washed out. Add 5 pounds of > l-ephedrine hydrochloride. 16 Feb 1997 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <33080728. I want some things in return. This is > from Space Monkey the original biker cook! > > Get> references: <43aqhu$njr@news1. [Reference: Skinner." Forensic Science International.worldnet.chemistry FAQ fodder.njin. charset=us-ascii Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Mime-Version: 1. methamphetamine HCL is soluble in Content-Type: text/plain. That way . This would provide a convenient method of separation..

It will be yellow. I would have gotten an oil. Yogi read it and agree! Now my questions that you who will use this owe me for having the balls to post it: 1) I tried this with iodine/red phosphorus/distilled water in proportions found on the lycaeum home page. What I got when I added the boiled product to the lye was a suspension of red phosphorus globules that did not float or sink. What happened? . but I know better. Pour the lye solution over the ice. When it starts to change. Discard the water. Discard the water layer. save the oil Put the oil in beaker so you know how much you have. Put the whole thing in an electric oven at the lowest setting and let sit till dry. Perfect pH is 7 Now you have a mixture of pure methamphetamine in water. this will get rid of the yellow. Keep testing with pH test papers. During this 13 hours of cooking.. Now start adding Hydrochloric acid to the oil. This is methamphetamine free-base. It will take lots at first. Put the sep funnel in a ring stand and let it sit for about 10 minutes till the crap falls out of the oil into the water.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no accumulation of hydrogen in the house to blow you to he-double toothpicks.. cause just a little too much will push the ph the wrong way. filtered till clear and let dry. but let the condenser run until the flask is cool enough to pick up. It smelled like meth. Now put it in a jar with acetone and shake it up. I also used pseudoephedrine extracted from white 60mg tabs. An oil layer will seperate on top. Now that the 13 hours are up. elusis. I extracted with distilled water. Now pour the contents of the boiling flask into the ice/lye filled carbouy and agitate. Now fill a big carboy with spigot about a third of the way with clear ice from the liquor store (it is made with distilled water [duh]). turn off the mantle. If it had worked. you have made a strong lye solution. Keep doing this until the oil clean. Now add equal parts of VERY hot water and oil in a seperatory funnel and shake for a couple of minutes. add the acid in little bits. Popeye. You will have 5 + pounds of absolutely pure meth.

com> <Joe. Therfore P4 acts as a catalyst.74g 138..44g . it isn't a "catalyst"..Student-0904971234580001@ecg150-b4.drugs. When it is used in this set of reactions.asu. but the tabs that were being used were 30mg thins very much like the 25mg ephedrine thins that everyone else in the us was using to make CAT. This is from memory.. (Information Technology) Subject: Re: mistake in iodine phos..Student-0704971333230001@ecg150-b2.80g 12..chemistry > >a little.I did the calculation for making 340mL > >HI first so to make 3.i have been told that the 4th ed of Secrets of Meth Manufacture has a way of removing the binder out of these tabs.I don't have my notes with me. synthesis? Date: Wed... but about the time that ephedrine became impossible to get the 30mg sudafed thins disappeared too.chemistry. producing phosphorus acid.inre.64g 1 I-sub "Ephedrine HCl" + H+ -----> 1 Methamphetamine HCL + 1/2 I2 231. I THINK this is from memory.drugs.wco. josh From: Joe. Then he > >calls for 40g of P4 added as a catalyst. There must be an "excess" amount of P4 to drive the> References: <01bc41ad$74e8e920$LocalHost@default> <335e22a6..13168110@news.asu. but i haven't bought it hoping that someone might post the route for this extraction method.and about 12g > >of P4 then brought to> <334bcd55..being replaced by 60mg thicks.8g 0. popeye where are you?" this is close to the synthesis ive seen used.rec. i will do the same for the group if i find it. when this stuff was boiled in HI acid it turned into a dark red sludge which kind of was thicker on the top just like what you are describing.these were loaded with gummy binder that is impossible to get rid of.5 molar soln it's around 150g of I2. if you run accross it or get told of it post it. 1 Ephedrine HCL + 1/2 I2 ----> 1 I.sustituted "Ephedrine" HCL + 1 OH150g 94. Post it Thanks. This is the same as having > > if I > >get it wrong I will post it later. giving a very good product.. 09 Apr 1997 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <Joe.6004785@news.12g 94...wco.Student@asu. and pseudoephedrine works real well.44g 231. > Not all P4 is used up. > it is used up.> > > > > > > > 2) Post this new epenephrine synth I hear people talking about 3) I hear that oxymethazoline HCL can be made into something like> Organization: Arizona State University Newsgroups: alt.

If The calculatins are incorrect let me know mole amounts used: Ephedrine HCl = 201. HF "Methamphetamine Synthesis via Hydroidic Acid/ Red Phosphorus Reduction of Ephedrine". Instead of making the HI via red phosphorus and iodine. This solution is refluxed for 1 day. H2SO4. the reduction of PPA is continued according to Fester: 150g PPA HCl + 40g Red Phosphorus + 340ml HI (made from DMSO) are mixed together in a 1000ml flat bottom (round bottoms require oil baths for heat). it is rumored that the DMSO will aid in methylenating the PPA. This is a well known reaction and has appeared in print in: Skinner.chemistry Uncle Fester's Secrets of Methamphetamine Manufacture describes a procedure for producing methamphetamine via the reduction of pseudoephedrine or ephedrine with HI and red phosphorus. Fester's reduction uses red phosphorus and iodine to form the HI used in the reaction. As a side note.drugs.64g just trying to help tweaker From: egendorf@mail1. for this discussion.alt. Forensic Science International 48 (1990): 123-124 Ephedrine and Psuedoephedrine reduce to methamphetamine. 08 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <5se45g$36e$1@netnews. This is an extension of Vogel's Practical Organic Textbook's reaction for making HBr. DMT or HMPT can be used instead of DMSO. Accordingly: 334g KI or 300g NaI (2M amount) + 400ml distilled water are mixed and cooled in an ice bath.64g Methamphetamine HCL = 185. However. However. Make the solution basic via NaOH (lye) to bring out the free base. The same one appeared in Pugsley's Bromosafrole (Robert Egendorf) Subject: PPA to meth? Please Comment Date: Fri.drugs.upenn.upenn. In other words. DMSO is necessary. This will theoretically yield methamphetamine . Normally.The excess P4 reacts with the liberated I2 to make more HI acid. at> Organization: University of Pennsylvania Newsgroups: rec. and NaI or KI. PPA reduces to amphetamine. PPA reduced with HI will form amphetamine. let's consider forming it via DMSO. Extract out the freebase and convert to the hydrochloride. the PPA is reduced via the HI and as a side reaction is methylenated by the DMSO. 180ml H2SO4 (sulfuric acid) is added dropwise so that the temperature stays below 75C. Now that the HI is formed from DMSO.

Extract the crank oil with Toluene. I.For further information about DMSO.. let's talk about speed syntheses. and 25g of red phosphorus are refluxed for at least 32 hours. 68K) X-Originating-IP-Addr: chosen. The red phos is added SLOWLY and a lot of heat is given off. 09 Sep 1997 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <873861819.77 (TS5-13.drugs. Red phosphorus and HI. Remove the heating mantle and allow cool water to continue to flow through the condensor for about an hour. There may . -R. Dilute the solution with an equal volume of distilled water. 450ml of 57% HI.Steve Quest. I'm the one. A flat bottom flask is nestled in an ice bath with stirring and contains 400ml dH2O (Is this correct?) and 320g of Iodine.02 (Macintosh.91." Supposedly. Pour the red solution through a series of doubled up coffee filters to remove the red phos for later X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Sep 10 03:24:35 1997 GMT Newsgroups: alt. Zachary Egendorf "I was one born. but a lot of it reacts without the whole mass dissolving first. Attach a condensor and boil under reflux for about 36 hours. The red phos in this ratio is used to synthesize the HI." University of Pennsylvania . For example.chemistry This is posted for info only. DO NOT DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL. The crank oil should float on top of the DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS SYNTHESIS. From: iodosafrole@hotmail. consult Fieser and Fieser "Reagents in Organic Synthesis. JD Date: Tue. Remove the ice bath and place the flask on a heating mantle. Allow the solution to react for about 20 minutes.UPENN.upenn.chemistry. Prepare a dilute lye solution by dissolving lye pellets (RED DEVIL LYE) in dH2O. 320g Iodine:160g Ephedrine:80g red phos.. 1/2 part red phos. Liberate the freebase crank oil by adding the lye solution. long ago. Wash the crystals with acetone and spread out on a plate to Subject: Cranksters Please Read & Respond .drugs. Bubble HCl gas through to form the salt. which should be strongly basic.rec.200.Lenny Kravitz Class of 1997 . very little of the Iodine dissolves in the DMSO.EDU) Organization: Deja News Posting Service X-Authenticated-Sender: iodosafrole@hotmail. The Iodine is insitu or in dH2O. 160g of l-ephedrine or d-pseudoephedrine. Could the "extra" DMSO be used to methylenate the PPA? Is this a viable mmethod of producing methamphetamine from PPA? Any thoughts or ideas are greatly appreciated. 1 part> X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/2. With that in mind. Now this method may produce a somewhat crude product. 1. I am the egendorf@mail.Hopefully. The ratio for the HI and the ephedrine are: 2 parts Iodine.

This may be rectified by recrystalization. I believe that the theory behind this reaction is that red phosphorus reacts with Iodine to form PI3 . I would assume that the PPA would have to be dissolved in the DMSO before the HI is formed. This will separate the d-isomer of methamphetamine from any impurities. Do not do anything illegal. Any thoughts? This was posted out of academic interest only. sulfuric acid. How could these be used in the reduction and how would they affect the numbers? 2. How would the phosphoric acid react with the TripleSuperPhosphate? If this is a valid method of producing HI. Sources: Red phosphorus: Grind up some flare caps. Could phosphoric acid react with Iodine to form HI? Phosphoric acid contains water. The HI absorbs the hydrogen atom of the some unreacted iodoephedrine. this should be anhydrous HI. how would the ratio of 450ml HI + 160g Ephedrine + 25g red phos ratio be adjusted? There is also a rumor that because dimethyl sulfate is a methylating agent. In the Merck. Aluminum is said to react with a dilute acid to evolve into hydrogen. 180ml of sulfuric acid are added. Journal Article: Topics in Forensic Science International. Phosphoric acid. Could the hydrogen that is evolved from the Al react with Iodine? Not having tried this . . a 2M amount of NaI or KI is dissolved in 400ml anhydrous DMSO. it can be synthesized from DMSO.Phosphorus Triiodide. In theory. Phosphorus acid. filter and save the filter cake Iodine: Buy some bottles of Iodine at the drugstore. boil in dH2O. The red phosphorus (the 25g in this reaction) acts as a recycler for the HI. The PI3 and water form phosphorus acid and HI. It is dehydrating the benzyl alcohol. The Iodine is not in water. but could TripleSuperPhosphate be used in place of the red phos catalyst? There was mention of a recipe that used 150 parts Iodine:30 parts TripleSuperPhosphate:20g of Aluminum. Skinner wrote an article detailing this procedure. Either set up a double boiler with a metal plate on top to catch the vapors or dry it with a little sulfuric acid (drain cleaner) Lye: Red Devil Lye at the hardware store Toluene: Hardware Store Tartaric Acid: Cream of Tartar Questions: 1. PPA (Dexatrim) can be reduced to methamphetamine instead of benzedrine. and Hypophosphoric acid are available commercially. could AlI3 be used Aluminum Iodine? 3. In an ice bath with stirring. but in phosphoric acid. and either Sodium Iodine or Potassium Iodine. Now. Phosphoric acid is available in the building materials section of Home Depot.I am not sure about what is happening in the reaction. This is probably from a bullshit recipe. Dissolve the crystals in hot ethyl alcohol and tartaric acid. Instead of forming the HI from red phosphorus and would be illegal .

Prepare a dilute lye solution by dissolving The dilution step is unwise.Phosphorus . just relocate your lab to a friendly jurisdiction like the lost continent of Mu or somewhere. >Extract the crank oil with> iodosafrole@hotmail. requiring larget volumes of solvent.Posted from the city so nice they named it West Philadelphia. >I believe that the theory behind this reaction is that red >phosphorus reacts with Iodine to form PI3 . Red phosphorus and HI. which should be strongly basic.Steve Quest. No problemo. Bubble HCl gas through to >form the salt.drugs.:) >1. and 25g of red phosphorus are refluxed for >at least 32 hours. 450ml of 57% HI. Wash the crystals with acetone and spread out on >a plate to dry. It's also pretty to watch.chemistry In article <873861819. since it is recycled in the reaction unless the reduction of iodoamphetamine by HI is the rate-limiting step. Dilute the solution with an equal volume of >distilled water.dejanews. The crank oil should >float on top of the solution. >DO NOT DO ANYTHING> References: <873861819. 1 part Ephedrine. DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS Search. Recrystallization. and recrystallize the product from a mildly acidic aqueous (James Gerken) Subject: Re: Cranksters Please Read & Respond . The ratio for the HI and the ephedrine are: >2 parts Iodine. The Iodine is insitu It may be possible to get away with a small amount of iodine. JD Date:> Organization: UCSD . Liberate the freebase >crank oil by adding the lye solution.ucsd. Post to Usenet From: jagerken@checfs2. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------http://www. 160g of l-ephedrine >or d-pseudoephedrine. 12 Sep 1997 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <5vau8t$b2r$1@news1. The red >phos in this ratio is used to synthesize the HI. >the condensor for about an hour.ucsd.15900@dejanews. if done properly is a powerful purificatory tool and a technique that everyone should know. Pour the red solution through >a series of doubled up coffee filters to remove the red phos for >later writes: >This is posted for info only.Chemistry and Biochemistry Newsgroups: alt. Read. >lye pellets (RED DEVIL LYE) in dH2O. For example.rec. >320g Iodine:160g Ephedrine:80g red phos.drugs. 1/2 part red phos.chemistry. It only makes the extraction harder. Or extract with ether which is then rotovapped off for recovery.

how would the ratio of 450ml HI + 160g Ephedrine + 25g >red phos ratio be adjusted? There is also a rumor that because .>Triiodide. and Hypophosphoric acid >are available commercially. boil in dH2O. but could >TripleSuperPhosphate be used in place of the red phos catalyst? No. They are the end product of the red phosphorus reduction. >There was mention of a recipe that used 150 parts Iodine:30 >parts TripleSuperPhosphate:20g of Aluminum. Phosphoric acid is available in the >building materials section of Home Depot. If the phosphoric acid is left out. >Tartaric Acid: Cream of Tartar For stereospecific crystallization. iodine attacks aluminum metal to form the halide. Instead of forming the HI from red phosphorus and iodine. filter >and save the filter cake There is also a rather involved process by which bone meal can be heated with charcoal to produce white phosphorus vapor that can be condensed for conversion to red phosphorus. The >HI absorbs the hydrogen atom of the ephedrine. How could these be >used in the reduction and how would they affect the numbers? They could be used for polishing any metal piping used in your apparatus. Could the hydrogen that is evolved from the Al >If this is a valid method of producing HI. the ashes of the reaction. The PI3 and water form phosphorus acid and HI. AlI3 may seem like a dead end. Now. >1. but it must be remembered that aluminum halides vigorously hydrolize to form the hydrohalic acid and aluminum hudroxide/oxide/dissolved ion species. and probably not worth the trouble under normal circumstances. see above. Either set There is a camping water purification treatment that uses crystalline iodine that is much more practical in cases where bulk iodine is unavailable. it >can be synthesized from DMSO. Now. and either Sodium >Iodine or Potassium Iodine. Could phosphoric acid react {Deletia} >into hydrogen. As reducing agents. Worth looking into. you will need enantiomerically pure tartaric acid. It is That would be the oxygen atom. sulfuric acid. >Red phosphorus: Grind up some flare caps. could AlI3 be used This may not be entirely bogus. This is probably from a bullshit recipe. In an ice bath with stirring. Cream of tartar is not pure in this fashion. Phosphorus acid. On the other hand. but in phosphoric acid. a 2M {Deletia} >HI. they are utterly useless. >Iodine: Buy some bottles of Iodine at the drugstore. >2. Phosphoric acid. abnormal circumstances are the daily bread of the speedchef. >3. This is technically demanding however. The Iodine is not >in water.

Justified and$85747f00$cc974cd1@privat e%3e%231/7 .THat depends on the concentration of the HI in the DMSO. Also. This can be calculated from the amounts in your original post and has been left as an exercise. PPA (Dexatrim) can be >reduced to methamphetamine instead of benzedrine. there are less toxic and more readily available methods for methylating amines. I would >assume that the PPA would have to be dissolved in the DMSO >before the HI is formed.deja. Without careful control. dimethylamphetamine would be a serious problem as an undesired product. >dimethyl sulfate is a methylating agent. Given the ready avalability of pseudoephedrine. James -passion=life (end of original message) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------You can view this message and the related discussion by following this link: http://www. this step is not needed. Any thoughts? There is a sizable difference between DMSO and dimethyl sulphate.