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contents
4 Publisher’s Note
5 Editor’s Note
8 Letters
29 Conferences Coming Up
Book Reviews:
69 The Alien Files
70 The Cash-Landrum UFO Incident
71 Connecting the Dots
72 Sightings by Date
74 Classifieds
78 Sightings Map

columns 10 21st Century News


13 Vaenian Abductions
14 View From A Brit
18 Exopolitics
21 News Guy
24 On Assignment
27 Earley Indications
30 Coast to Coast AM
80 I Get the Last Word

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features
32 Building 265
This is the most amazing story you will read all year! Maybe ever!
by Joseph Richard Gutheinz, Jr.
38 Ranking Russians Deny UFO Incidents
Suddenly, it’s turned very very cold in Russia.
by Vicki Ecker

42 Through the Soviet Looking Glass


A little trip down memory lane, before everyone forgets.
by George Knapp

43 Second Annual Crash Retrieval Conference


The world’s most prestigious garbage pickers find
something to lecture about.
by Skylaire Alfvegren

48 Interview With Ryan Wood


A discussion about some of the earliest
disclosures and some old family ties.
by Paul Davids

54 Alien Autopsy: 10 Years After the Fact?


Part I of a series. Why did they do it? Who was behind it?
Are there tiny grains of truth?
by Don Ecker

61 National Security State Unveiled: Richard Dolan


Big Brother lives! And breathes down our neck.
by Sean Casteel and John Weigle

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From the Publisher

Jim Moseley, the publisher of that eminently scholarly publication Saucer Smear, on one of his rare occasions got
it right a year ago when he said that UFO Magazine “staggered” into print. That we did. With a redesigned look and a
new editorial focus we made it into print and spent 2004 taking risks on the kinds of stories we thought would excite
a larger audience of readers, UFO enthusiasts, and people who like to follow news of the paranormal. We were out to
please our existing audience, but also to make new friends. And in the process we made some friends, but, as we’ve
done many times before, also managed to offend some old friends.
Accordingly, I would like to issue a collective UFO Magazine apology to all those whom we offended for whatever
reason we offended them, reasons that are known to us and reasons that aren’t. Sorries to all the readers who didn’t
like our choice of paper stock. We couldn’t afford the shiny stuff. In fact, even if we could have afforded it, the big pa-
per mills began rationing the glossy stock to the catalog printers. Likely we couldn’t have obtained enough even if we
wanted to print on it. So, a big sorry to all of you who wrote us or called saying you didn’t like the change from 2003.
We had to change the way we managed subscriptions in 2004. Couldn’t afford the old subscription service. So, sorry
for the lost magazines and for all the subscribers who went missing between September 2003 and April 2004. And if
you’re still lost, you know the address (PO Box 11013, Marina del Rey, CA 90295).
There were some readers who complained about our stories, our columnists, and our covers. We decided to take risks,
so we have to take the knocks, too. If you didn’t like the orbs, the Jim Marrs photo (he loved it), or the photocopy of the
alien (he wasn’t real), sorry you were offended. If you didn’t like the book reviews because you like the book and the
reviewer didn’t, or vise versa, sorry about that. If you didn’t like what some of our columnists wrote because you felt it
was aimed at you, it wasn’t, but sorry about that anyway. Let’s start a new year.
This is a year in which we’re still going to offend many more people, so let me say sorry to all those who’re not yet
offended but most likely will be. UFO is looking forward to a big year as we hit volume two-oh, taking us to our twen-
tieth anniversary in 2006. Here’s some of what’s in store: we’re starting up a publishing partnership with our friends
in Brazil. That’s right, we’ll be working with A. J. Geveard and UFO Brazil in translating some of their exciting stories
into English and publishing them here. We’re even talking about publishing an electronic edition of UFO Brazil, and,
of course UFO Magazine USA. We hope to be able to reach out to our English cousins this year and re-establish the Gra-
ham Birdsall tradition of UFO Magazine U.K. Time will tell, but for all those readers on the other side of the Atlantic, a
mailing will be coming your way soon. And we hope that this will be a year of Disclosure, with a capital D that rhymes
with T, which stands for Truth, right here on these very pages.
UFO Magazine is the most interesting magazine in the world. We will prove it to you, again, in 2005.

William J. Birnes

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From the Editor

When you’ve been dabbling or drowning in the UFO game long enough, the proffered “play” frequently becomes
altogether tedious­—but never because of the phenomenon itself. In fact, UFOs remain a profoundly arousing enig-
ma that drives the gamer in the manner of Tom Petty’s lyrics in his rocking anthem, “Runnin’ Down A Dream”—

Workin’ on a mystery, Goin’ wherever it leads …

While the UFO phenomenon itself never ceases to attract and intrigue, beguile and baffle, the tedium in the game
itself arises when the mystery leads to a clash of cultures, as it were; divided geographies attempting to occupy
the same space at the same time. And while UFOs might easily do that, individual humans with widely diverse
agendas simply cause a ruckus in the mind of a neutral observer. (Or, one attempting to remain neutral!) Scam art-
ists and bonafide witnesses who both claim to have important UFO data will spread their wares before a credulous
public. Sit back and see what happens. Building 265 (current) and the alien autopsy footage (past) each press in
on their audience. But guess which one ends up dominating?
The challenge presented in this issue is to calculate the odds of what’s real and what’s not. Any reader of our
magazine knows that since the middle of last century, much has been lined up against the UFO phenomenon to
divert attention from historical fact and diminish the impact of what can only be determined as huge national
security breaches, at the very least.
Ever since then, courageous, determined souls have tried their mightiest to let everyone in on a special secret.
The tiniest and flimsiest of hoaxes or wild goose chases or silliness will capture the public imagination instead,
heedlessly overshadowing earnest truth tellers.
That’s the way of this world. Maybe it will always be this way. So, seeing no change after years and years, life
comes down to the comfort and warmth from those we love. We’ll still play the game, mind you, but at a more
relaxed pace and with far less expectation: the only way we can stay in the game.

Vicki Ecker

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UFO M A G A Z I N E
About the Cover
Joseph Gutheinz, a U.S. deputy marshal
attached to NASA and an investigator for the
Office of the Inspector General, lays out the
EDITORIAL
elements of a fraud investigation for his team.
PUBLISHER
William J. Birnes
Gutheinz tells the story of the mysterious
bill@ufomag.com Building 265 at the Johnson Space Center in
EDITOR-IN-CHIEF Houston, where, years ago, a strange elderly
Vicki Ecker
vecker1@comcast.net man wearing a long-expired NASA badge told
DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH
him how a live extraterrestrial was extricated
Don Ecker from the crash at Roswell and taken to a facil-
decker0726@yahoo.com
ity near White Sands.
DESIGN DIRECTOR
Nancy Birnes
It was there that scientists who conducted
esperita@earthlink.net an autopsy were literally disintegrated by
CONTRIBUTING EDITORS lethal levels of radiation that emanated from
Sean Casteel, George Earley, Jan Hester
the ET’s cadaver. Years later, he himself vis-
COLUMNISTS
Steve Bassett, Don Ecker, Zoh & Dr. Bob Hieronimus, Guy Malone, George Noory,
ited that camouflaged building at White Sands,
Nick Redfern, Peter Robbins, Jeremy Vaeni picked the lock to gain entrance, and, with
CONTRIBUTING WRITERS his own eyes, saw spread out on the floor, two
Skylaire Alfvegren, Sean Casteel, Paul Davids, Joseph Richard Gutheinz, Jr.,
Don Ecker, Vicki Ecker, Scott Holloway, Keisha Kanabo, George Knapp,
hazmat suits with the disintegrated remains of
Scott J. Santa, James Taylor, Pat Uskert, John Weigle those who wore them still inside.
DIRECTORS Is Joe Gutheinz yet another figure in the
William J. Birnes, Nancy Birnes ever-evolving story of Roswell? Read the story
Don Ecker, Vicki Ecker and see for yourself.

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Editor: shopping areas and people. I believe in 1) the existence
I see in your last issue (Vol. 19, No. 6), Don Ecker of UFOs, 2) the media cover-ups, and 3) the government
accuses me of keeping him from speaking at the recent “untruth” about any of this. Of the above three, I don’t
National UFO Conference. I had nothing to do with know which is more amazing.
lining up speakers or vendors. As far as I am concerned, E.A.M.
even a s***head like Ecker has a right to be heard! Westchester, NY
Continue to keep your eye on the sky! Editor:
Jim Moseley I received a UFO Encyclopedia and couldn’t believe
Key West, FL that Walter Webb, who investigated the Betty and Barney
Don Ecker responds: I didn’t directly state that Jim Hill case, was not included. He also wrote a UFO book
prevented me from speaking at NUFOC—only that and spent a long time on UFO matters. He still does the
our publisher was told (by a third party) that if I came, astronomy column in the MUFON Journal. I think he
Moseley might choose not to attend. Maybe Jim should deserves the recognition he has earned.
smoke less and read with his glasses on! Shirley Fox
Ft. Myers, FL
Editor: Editor:
Thank you for the wonderfully thought-provoking Thanks to all of you for making serious inquiry into
article by Michael Horn in your October/November the most fascinating issue of our age that is otherwise
issue. In regard to the Billy Meier case: Gary Kinder’s ignored, at least by the mainstream media. I don’t think
1987 book Light Years does not conclude that the Meier they will consider the possibility of extraterrestrial life
case is real­—or false. It just presents the facts of the seriously until they can poll them and sell them beer.
case and lets the readers make up their own minds as Billy Walsh
to its verity or falseness. Rockville, MD
Having spent over 30 years traversing the many
different spiritual paths available on Earth and finding Editor:
them all wanting, I have come to believe that real I am writing to thank you for your gift of the maga-
spirituality is exactly what the Pleiadians/Plejarens say zine you sent to our group. Some of those in our group
it is: All life is of an unimaginably great Oneness and are excited and are getting telescopes to search for
we are each part of that All-Oneness, and our spiritual UFOs. Some of them talked about being able to walk
evolution is totally our own individual responsibility. again if aliens can cure them of their injury. All of us
Semjase, the Pleiadian/Plejaren woman who met with are in wheelchairs from a spinal cord injury and it was
Billy Meier has said, “If Earth humans would only love nice of you to send your magazine. It really boosts up
one another, your planet would be a paradise.” the morale of those who have wild imaginations, and
Gene Andrade the conversations that came up were unreal, to say the
Carmel, CA least. Thank you again, and may God bless you!
Editor: Joseph Gianninom, president
Re: “Mysterious Sky Craft” article, pp. 52–55 (June/ The Spinal Cord Foundation
July, 2004). My brother saw this, also. It was about Editor:
300 yards south of the northern part of a golf course, Unless you will send the UFO Magazine in a plain
and was at the same time in 1985. He and dozens of brown wrapper, I will not get another subscription! I
others traveling south on the Parkway pulled over and live in a small retirement home and everybody in the
stopped to watch for a few minutes. It was described as place I live in is nosy. I don’t want any of them to know
a huge—much larger than a football field—triangular I get the magazine. You know: narrow-minded people!
craft with red lights, and flying only about 200 or 300 Name Withheld
feet up in a southeasterly direction. Warren, PA
Why is nothing ever reported here in Westchester? Editor’s note: It just so happens that our current en-
Others had to have seen it. Its flight path would have velopes, when we do use them, are plain, and brown.
had to have taken it over a very busy area of roads, Coincidence?

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Editor:
Regarding the articles by Ron Garner, George Knapp, Jarred Schenke, and Bill Birnes, Vol. 19, No. 4:
To George Knapp: What right do you have calling my son Danny “a phony-baloney goofball”? You wanted more
information at that time and Danny was not able to give it to you, so you called him “phony.” In 2002 I asked for
your help. You said you would call me back. Well, it is now 2004 and no call yet. You do not keep your word, so
you must be phony also. I do not lie about things; of our son Danny, I want the truth out one way or another.
Now about the lie you wrote in your article. You mentioned that I said I had never seen Danny being picked up.
I told you that Danny was picked up by men in suits and military right in front of our apartment. Danny would
wait for them in front, pacing back and forth. Pacing back and forth did not mean he walked down the street to
be picked up. Get your facts straight. Danny’s high school years: Danny lived with us. He attended school in Eng-
land to complete the rest of his high school. He was away at school for a while, just like any kid who goes away
to school. But he still lived with us. Danny’s PhD: He did earn a PhD. But as I’ve said, his wife Debra took it off
Danny’s bedroom wall, telling me she wanted to make a copy. But making a copy was not her intention. She stole
it and as of July 17, 2004, admits stealing it on audio and video on the Internet. I have the proof.
Cancer Research: First of all the ingredient Danny used was not Clorox, it was Purex. Danny used this ingredi-
ent with his own solutions he had put together. Danny did not call this so-called “news conference” at UNLV. His
professor did. One of his professors wanted the solution for himself to make big $$. He wanted Danny to falsify
his research numbers. Danny would not do that, and so his B.S. in biology was out the door. Danny refused to
falsify his work, so he changed his major to psychology. I ask you, George, what would you have done, falsify the
numbers to get your B.S. in biology?
To Ron Garner: Danny did get his high school diploma in England. UNLV did not want to accept it and told
Danny to take the general equivalency exam. Danny did just that. And as for his financial problems, Danny was
never much into taking care of his financial responsibilities. His wife, Debra, took over. Take this into account.
Danny’s work was usually paid in cash under the table. Debra had the financial responsibilities.
To Jarred Schenke: Now someone else is writing something false once again. Jarred states that Danny stopped
attending meetings at the Los Angeles Micro Society in 1977. That is not true. In 1977, 1978, 1979, we drove
Danny to his meeting in Los Angeles each month. In 1979 we moved to Las Vegas. We flew our son Danny from
Las Vegas to Los Angeles many times for his meetings. This continued even after he left in England in the ’80s.
To Bill Birnes: Danny’s middle name is just B, not Benjamin. I tell people this all the time. For once, get it
straight: B, not Benjamin. As for Marci McDowell, she met with Bill Hamilton before 2002. She first met him in
1999 at the Little Ale’Inn on a Memorial Day weekend. She may have set a meeting for Bill to meet in Danny in
2002, but it seems like it was before that.
Doreen Crain
Las Vegas, NV

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Focus Your Hidden Abilities! Be All That You Can Be!
by Dr. Bob and Zohara Hieronimus Apparently one of the biggest barriers to developing
Looking for a scientific framework in which to understand psychic abilities is not believing it to be possible. As
your psychic or paranormal experiences? A new book co- Krippner points out, “This goes for any talent. If
authored by “one of the grand somebody doesn’t believe that they can learn how
old men of parapsychology” to cook, learn how to play a musical instrument,
will help you. Becoming or learn how to have fun in sports, that puts up
Psychic: Spiritual Lessons a barrier that will inhibit them from using their
Focusing Your Hidden genetic and innate abilities. I think that like all
Abilities (New Page Books) talents, psychic development has a basic develop-
is a collaboration between mental background. Some people are gifted with
clinical psychologist Stephen more of it than others. But whatever amount of
Kierulff, PhD and researcher psychic capacity they have, they’re not going to be
Dr. Stanley Krippner, whom able to develop it if they think poorly of it, if they
we interviewed on 21st think poorly of themselves, if they lack the con-
Century Radio®. fidence to play around with it and expand their
This book will give horizons, expand their way of thinking. But like
you detailed instructions I say, the same thing goes for any talent, any gift,
for how to become more any human capacity that a person might want to
psychic in five important extend and make the best of.”
areas: mind reading, remote Having fun and enjoying yourself also appears
viewing, moving matter with to help the learning process, and this seems to be
mind, distant healing of especially true in the area of psy-
physical ills through mental chic development. As for a precise
intention, and seeing into definition of psychic development,
the future. And besides all that, Becoming it’s a term that covers many topics.
Psychic has a fantastic set of appendices! Intuition is the ability to glimpse
Listings of professional psychics, healers, into the possible future, the abil-
organizations, training schools, research ity to sense what is happening at a
centers, workshops and programs … it’s an distance. “Some of these abilities
absolute Virgo’s delight. we know a great deal about,” says
The book is set up as a kind of dialogue Krippner, but others are still “high-
between Drs. Kierulff and Krippner, as Dr. ly conjectural which only future re-
Kierulff recounts various personal psychic search will teach us about.”
experiences he has had and Dr. Krippner
provides the latest verifiable research for the Watch your ESPs
most up-to-date understanding of these skills. and Qs
Dr. Stanley Krippner is a professor of One of the ways Stanley Krippner
psychology at Saybrook Graduate School has become one of the grand old
in San Francisco and the co-author of men of parapsychology is the preci-
several books, including Dream Telepathy, sion and care with which he choos-
Extraordinary Dreams and How to Work es his words. There are many terms
With Them, and Varieties of Anomalous in this field of inquiry that make
Experience published by the American Psychological him uncomfortable, but he doesn’t care enough about it
Association. The winner of the Parapsychological to make it a big issue. Yet his points are of great semantic
Association’s Outstanding Career award, he also served interest and food for thought.
as Dr. Bob’s doctoral committee chairman and advisor at He avoids terms like extrasensory, for example, explain-
Saybrook Institute when he obtained his PhD. ing that he is “not ready to claim that it is extrasensory,

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beyond the senses. There’s so much about the senses on parapsychology, is that
that we don’t know. There’s so much about the range there does seem to be a con-
of sen­ses that we don’t know. The human organism nective link between people
might have senses that we haven’t discovered yet. that has been overlooked by
Who is to say that these capacities do not behave like mainstream science. This
the senses in some way or another?” link really should give some
Krippner also tends to avoid words like reality, comfort to people, because
truth, and materialism, saying that “all of these terms they are not alone—wheth-
have traps in them. They have hidden agendas in er they know it or not. They
them, and they’re a little too abstract for me. I like to are connected with other
get down and use terms that describe in a more con- people around the globe.
crete manner just what seems to be going on.” There does seem to be a
The special part of this book is that it follows the global consciousness that
journey of Dr. Kierulff, who used his psychic experi- transcends such artificial
ences to develop spiritually. As Dr. Krippner is clear dividing lines as race and
to point out, however, “There are many paths to spiri- ethnicity and nationality.
tual development, and somebody doesn’t have to be This should also be kept in
psychic to develop spiritually. By spiritually, I mean mind when people go to war
developing the capacity to love, to have compassion, against each other because of
to be sensitive to the needs of other people, to find some of these belief systems
a connection with transcendent sources in the universe. based on rather superficial understandings of the human
Many people get there through their appreciation of art. species. The deep connections do exist.”
Many people get there through serving their fellow human
beings. Many people get there through some type of social A Dark and Stormy Night
or political activism. There are many ways to grow spiritu- If you go to the kinds of movies we do, you have proba-
ally, and psychic development is just one of them.” bly noticed that Hollywood movies very often incorporate
Becoming Psychic is full of thoughtful reflections like well-researched and documented tidbits about psychic
“the spiritual lesson of telepathy,” which is learning phenomena, and then repeat them so often they become
that the sense of separation or aloneness is an illusion. clichéd. Take for example, the obvious one that haunted
“One of the spiritual lessons that comes out of the book,” houses get scarier during thunderstorms. Turns out that’s
says Krippner, “and out of the entire scientific literature true. As Krippner considers it, the demonstrated effects

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of sunspots, electri- the U.S. government’s exploration of this technique in an
cal storms, and geo- attempt to train spies to be psychic (Joseph McMoneagle’s
magnetic activity on works are particularly recommended). Although there is
psi is one of the most no real way of knowing what the government is currently
significant steps that using or studying, Krippner is skeptical of whether this is
researchers have the best use of research funding.
taken toward trying “A couple of million dollars was actually poured into
to understand these laboratories like the SRI, Science Research Institute Inter-
phenomena. national laboratory in California. But these were not really
He relates that formal experiments; this was applied technology. It did
years after the now- not really have the controls so that you could rule out
famous dream tel­ coincidence. Some very striking things happened in terms
epathy experiments of being able to identify what the military was doing.
at Maimonides “But then there are also some failures in terms of trying
Dream Laboratory to locate people who are kidnapped, in terms of trying to
at Maimonides Hos- identify troop movements. I would recommend articles in
pital in New York, the Journal for Scientific Exploration a few years ago. One
they reexamined the by Jessica Utts, a statistician who went through all of this
data and discovered declassified military data on remote viewing. She felt that
their best results had there was something to it, that more often than not the
been at times of low magnetic field activity. These dream remote viewers hit the mark. But then there’s a companion
telepathy experiments were designed with one person in piece by Ray Hyman, a psychologist from the University
the dream laboratory trying to dream about distant pic- of Oregon, who went through the same material. He said
tures that were being projected to them telepathically by it was not very impressive to him.
somebody in a distant room or a different building. “So you see, here we have two very talented, very
“This worked best when there were no major sunspots, intelligent individuals going through the same data and
no major electrical activity,” said Krippner. “The geomag- reaching very, very different conclusions. I haven’t seen
netic field had to be calm in order for the telepathy really the raw data—I have just read the articles describing
to be demonstrated. This reached the level of statistical it—but I sort of come down some place in the middle.
significance, and this is something that’s been applied to Yes, it’s interesting stuff, but for all the millions of dollars
other experiments.” This examination of the geomagnetic that were spent, I don’t know that the residue is there to
field has been applied to other experiments only in ret- keep employing psychics on the government payroll to do
rospect, he added, so one can’t claim that people were remote viewing. Maybe the government has some people
finding what they were expecting to find. “The examina- on the payroll now, and maybe they’re using them. If so,
tion of the sunspots and the electrical storms was done I don’t think they’re using them to very good advantage
years, if not decades, after the original experiments had given all the casualties that we’re seeing in Iraq. But who
been done. I think this is the beginning of a tantalizing am I to question what the government is doing secretly?”
explanation.” Well, we all want to question what the government is
On the other hand, Dr. William Roll and others who have doing secretly, but most important to remember is that
investigated the so-called the poltergeist phenomenon have when you do, they will usually not tell you the whole
found that electrical storms actually seem to increase or en- continued on page 77
hance what is called psychokinetic activity. These researchers
have determined that the poltergeist phenomenon is actually
a type of psychokinetic activity, or something that involves Hieronimus
mind over matter, and have found that electrical storms seem & Co.
to enhance this anomalous ability people have, usually un- Are on the
consciously, to move objects about without touching them. Radio!
Krippner wants to know if this enhancement can be
tapped for healing, which can also been considered a Future Talk with Zohara Hieronimus, nationwide Sat-
case of mind influencing matter. “Maybe healers should urdays 11 pm to 1 am EST, on the Business Talk Radio
Network. http://www.FutureTalk.org
do their work during storms,” he said. “We haven’t done
21st Century Radio in Baltimore, on WCBM 680 AM,
any research on that yet, but this would be a worthwhile Sundays from 8 pm to 10 pm EST
research direction.” http://www.21stCenturyRadio.com
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Lost in Translation
by Jeremy Vaeni
The weather is at war with us as we’re at war with each back to “the good old days” that weren’t good even then.
other because we’re at war with ourselves, within our­ So stagnation or regression are all any of us can envision
selves. There’s your tongue twister of the month. Mean­ anymore, because we are at a place where we can see that
while, what’s that sound going BOOM-BOOM-BOOM? the future was never real. The building-up of societies to­
What’s that flash of light? … a fiery object … something ward global harmony is a total and complete fabrication.
lands on our id-scorched earth: a craft. Its occupants have Harmony begins and ends with the individual. Running
been waiting for this time of reckoning. It’s not Judgment toward the ideal future is running away from this fact.
Day, it’s Consequence Day. We can only run from our true There is something huge coming down the pike, make
nature for so long. This is the moment when we choose: no mistake. All of the warning signs are there, be they of
Transcendence? Or translation? interior or exterior domains. We are about to get shrugged
Translation has served us well outwardly with our in­ off the face of the earth because we choose to remain clev­
ventions and our laws and—let’s face it—plumbing is er, irrelevant animals, and we know this. Do we care?
good. But it’s time to move on now, not get anchored in Will we claim responsibility or continue to smile and
the muck of the familiar, the past, the dead ideologies of call it God’s work? Will we claim responsibility or contin­
another age. Yeah, it’s time for transcendence, which is ue to bemoan a shadow government? Will we take respon­
the scariest thing of all because it means the death of self, continued on page 77
the death of the illusion of our control, and an end to the
lie that “To be or not to be?” is a valid question.
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that we know what humans are because we’re human. We
are confident that we know who and what we are because
we’re living it.
But we don’t. We’re broken at a stage, calling that the
pinnacle, and fighting to preserve the status quo of the
self. We’re fetuses clinging to the womb, pretending that
we’re already adults so … no need to be born, thank you
very much! Meantime, we’re not even babies yet. We do
scream like babies, though. We are narcissistic like babies
and we are clueless like babies. This is the dark horror of
translation.
It needn’t be this way, but it is. It is this way. And only
you can change this. Not because there are shady aliens
keeping vital information from you, but because it is only
something that you can tackle as an individual, within
yourself. Now is the time to do so, for we are running head­
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The UFO Encounter of Dame Rebecca West
by Nick Redfern the Admiralty sentenced to 18 years imprisonment, and
According to a batch of now-declassified files held at the Stephen Ward, a player in the Profumo case, a famous Brit-
National Archives, Kew, England, on January 7, 1966, the ish spy scandal of the 1960s.
well-known British writer Dame Rebecca West, MBE, was For its part, the files reveal, the Ministry of Defense was
inadvertently plunged into a truly bizarre puzzle. Incred- intent on playing down West’s UFO-style encounter and
ibly, she asserted, some sort of unusual aerial object had suggested that West had simply misidentified a helicop-
landed on the grounds of her home, Ibstone House. ter seen under poor conditions. Whatever the truth of the
Born in 1892, Rebecca West (the adopted name of Cec- matter, West’s odd experience became the subject of a
ily Isabel Fairfield) was the daughter of Charles Fairfield, fifteen-page file that attracted the attention of the MoD’s
renowned in London society for his spirited and witty de- Defense Intelligence Staff.
fense of “extreme individualism” in debates with the likes But how did Dame Rebecca West become embroiled in
of George Bernard Shaw. While West was still a child, the UFO controversy? As the now-aged documentation at
Fairfield relocated his family to Edinburgh where he died, the National Archives reveals, it was 2:45 p.m. on January
leaving his widow and four daughters in circumstances 7, 1966 and West was out walking on the grounds of her
bordering on poverty. home when …
West (who adopted the name Rebecca “As I was going
at the age of 19 after Ibsen’s heroine in down the steep hill
Rosmersholm) remained in Edinburgh to the farm buildings
and continued her education there, and I noticed a man walk-
trained briefly for the stage in London ing on my property at
before becoming a noted feminist and some distance to the
journalist. As her career blossomed, right of the path I was
West wrote for The Freewoman, The following,” she wrote
Clarion and The New Freewoman; and to the MoD. “Pres-
many of her writings from that time ently, he reached a
were collated and re-printed as The point when the wood
Young Rebecca in 1932. stopped and there is
Her first novel, The Return of the Sol- a hedge which runs
dier, was published in 1918 and was down to the valley
followed by The Judge, The Strange along a sharp ridge.
Necessity, Harriet June, The Thinking There is a gap in the
Reed; and after an extended period, The hedge and the man
Fountain Overflows and The Birds Fall stopped just past this
Down. In the meantime, in 1930 West and turned around,
married Henry Maxwell Andrews, a facing in the reverse
banker, who was to accompany her on direction, and stood
the journey that ultimately led to the still.”
1941 publication of her two-volume Expressing concern
study of the Yugoslav nation, Black about “what he was
Lamb and Grey Falcon. going to do,” West
West was also present at the Nurem- watched in amaze-
Dec. 8, 1947: Dame Rebecca, celebrated author
burg trials and her 1949 book, The Mean- ment as what she de-
ing of Treason, largely grew out of articles commissioned scribed as “an aerial construction” appeared out of no-
by the New Yorker. In 1965, only one year before her cu- where. “One moment it was not there, the next it was,”
rious UFO encounter occurred, The Meaning of Treason Rebecca West explained. “It seemed to come down quite
was updated with added accounts of what were then more rapidly, on the other side of the hedge from the man, but
recent scandals, including those of John Vassall, a spy in very close to it.”

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And what, precisely, was it that Dame Rebecca West Rebecca West signed off, “I feel most apologetic for bur-
saw? Her description was curious, to say the least. dening you with such an improbable story. But I did not
Stressing to the MoD that the object was “strangely like to report it to the local police, as I think you will agree
shaped,” she stated: “It consisted of something like a met- that an elderly woman who went to the local police with a
al band, gray-blue in color, flattened at one point so as to story of having seen the equivalent of a flying saucer would
seem almost leaf-like, crossed with a sort of herringbone be adding considerably to the difficulties of her life.”
system of metal strips.” She elaborated further: “There On arrival at the MoD, West’s letter was forwarded to a
was also somehow attached to these an odd object like a particular office known to have been involved in the col-
bag with an opening that had points, made of yellowish lection of UFO data in the 1960s and referred to as S4F
material. As I looked the whole thing collapsed toward (Air). As the records show, however, one L. W. Akhurst
the ground. of that office then dispatched all of the relevant data to a
“I saw it crumpling downwards, but crumpling is not Flight Lieutenant Mercer of the Defense Intelligence Staff.
quite the word. The metal band seemed to cut backwards For his part, Mercer was inclined to accept that “Dame
and disappear while the curious bag looked as if someone Rebecca West saw a helicopter, possibly of the Bell 47 or
were squeezing the air out of the lower portion of it, so similar type, which in conditions of poor visibility ap-
that all the points stood up, and then fell back. Compar- peared to have some unusual characteristics.” Despite
ing the height of the object with the height of the man, I this assertion, it is interesting to note that Mercer duly
should put it as something [between] fifteen and twenty.” stamped his evaluation “Restricted” and advised Akhurst
Also playing on West’s mind was the identity of the mys- to inform Rebecca West of his conclusions.
tery man. Stressing that his behavior was “very odd,” she Needless to say, she was far from convinced by the
continued that, “he seemed to be watching the thing come MoD’s explanation and fired a letter back to Akhurst. “To
down, and the minute it was down, he turned ’round and have appeared where I saw it a helicopter would have had
followed the hedge track down to the valley. Once or twice to fly twenty or thirty yards with its lower half deeply
he looked to his left as if he were scrutinizing the valley, embedded in the earth.”
and he did not seem to see me. But at the bottom of the She also maintained that, “There was at this time com-
track he stopped again and looked all ’round the slope on plete silence” and “that visibility seemed to me not poor
which I was standing, and this time he seemed to see me. at all, for I spotted several birds at a considerable distance.
We stood and looked at each other for quite a long time, I do not expect an answer to this letter.”
and I had an uncomfortable feeling and went home.” She concluded, “I reported the incident partly because
The key question centered on the identity of the strange I feared the object might be a parachute or some such
object. In her letter to the Ministry of Defense, West wrote construction which was being used to drop something or
that a farm laborer had informed her that he had seen a somebody for criminal purposes, and partly because the
helicopter flying in the vicinity earlier on that same day. construction I saw or thought I saw puzzled me, as I could
West, meanwhile, ventured the possibility that it was
“some gadget sent out by the Meteorological Office.” continued on page 76

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The UFO Forum
I Think Therefore I Visit
www.theufoforum.org
16 February • March 2005 UFO
Those Pesky Myths, Misperceptions, and
Misunderstandings
by Stephen Bassett when confronted with the idea of an extraterrestrial pres-
Hello, 2005. It’s the 58th year of the extraterrestrial-re- ence, hostile or otherwise, go to pieces. The panic that
lated, phenomena-truth embargo. I was born in Decem- ensued was unpleasant but hardly rose to the level of the
ber, 1946. By then, the cover-up, as some prefer to call it, Coconut Grove fire. That was panic. Given how little ex-
was already underway. While July, 1947 serves nicely as posure Americans had had to the extraterrestrial hypoth-
a formal beginning of this policy, there had been sightings esis by 1938, the reaction was not exceptional.
during and just after the war, Thus, the truth embargo But let’s assume for the sake of argument that people
completely encapsulates my life. got upset, and that was bad. Here is the inference that
What a long, strange trip. should have been drawn: When an institution of public
Fortunately, the frustration and anticipation which ac- trust such as a major radio network completely fabricates
companies this issue, like few others—somewhat in the a false and scary scenario, people get upset. The message
fashion of Lieutenant Dunbar’s approach to life in Catch of 1938 is not that people can’t handle the truth, but rather
22—makes the passage of time seem sooooooo much slow- that people can be misled into inappropriate response by
er. How long can this go on? Should I take out a 401(k)? elaborate lies. October 30, 1938 does not support a cover-
The prize—disclosure—hangs out there in the hazy fu- up; it supports disclosure.
ture, both inevitable and unreachable at the same time.
It would help to move things along if all of the myths, The Brookings Report
misperceptions, and misunderstandings could be cleared Ah, the “Proposed Studies of the Implications of Peace-
up. Let’s start off the New Year by taking a look at three ful Space Activities for Human Affairs,” the Brookings Re-
examples. port—what would a truth embargo have done without this
fine tome commissioned by NASA’s Committee on Long
The Great Halloween Fiasco of ’38 Range Studies from the Brookings Institution in 1960?
On the eve of Halloween, October 30, 1938, Orson Quite a few people in and out of government have used a
Welles and the Mercury Theater on the Air performed a few sections of this report to justify taking a passive ap-
radio play version of H. G. Wells’ War of the Worlds. It proach to the disclosure process. Such an interpretation
was postured as a real news broadcast and immediately is a profound misconception. Take a moment and read
entered the realm of myth and legend. While there were the report’s exact material that did not become generally
disclaimers provided, many of the listening public who known until the early 1990s.
were dial-hopping back and forth from another popular Summary: Introduction: Goals and Methods
show, The Chase and Sanborn Hour, thought the broad-
5. Certain potential products or consequences of space
cast was real and proceeded to panic in various and some-
activities imply such a high degree of change in world
times creative ways. conditions that it would be unprofitable within the
The Welles fiasco would have remained just an inter- purview of this report to propose research on them.
esting footnote in history if it hadn’t gotten caught up in Examples include a controlled thermonuclear fusion
exopolitical matters, namely the truth embargo. In time, rocket power source and face-to-face meetings with
the War of the Worlds panic became a touchstone for those extraterrestrials.
who wish to make the case that the human race “can’t
handle the truth.” If you are reading UFO Magazine, you Attitudes and Values
know the issues and have heard this non sequitur repeat- 4. Though intelligent or semi-intelligent life conceiv-
ed many times. In fact, just last issue (Vol. 19. No. 6) we ably exists elsewhere in our solar system, if intelligent
reported another facet of this interesting study in psycho- extraterrestrial life is discovered in the next twenty
logical manipulation. In short: It’s baloney. years, it will very probably be by radio telescope from
Here is the ironic but proper inference that should have other solar systems. Evidences of its existence might
been taken from the Panic of 1938: It is not that humans, also be found in artifacts left on the moon or other

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planets. The consequences for attitudes and values are would certainly be front-page news everywhere; the
unpredictable, but would vary profoundly in different degree of political or social repercussion would prob-
cultures and between groups within complex societies; ably depend on leadership’s interpretation of (1) its
a crucial factor would be the nature of the communi- own role, (2) threats to that role, and (3) national and
cation between us and the other beings. Whether or personal opportunities to take advantage of the disrup-
not earth would be inspired to an all-out space effort tion or reinforcement of the attitudes and values of
by such a discovery is others. Since leadership itself might have great need to
moot: societies sure of gauge the direction and intensity of public attitudes,
their own place in the to strengthen its own morale and for decision making
universe have disin- purposes, it would be most advantageous to have more
tegrated when con- to go on than personal opinions about the opinions of
fronted by a superior the public and other leadership groups.
society, and others have
survived even though The knowledge that life existed in other parts of the
changed. Clearly, the universe might lead to a greater unity of men on earth,
better we can come to based on the oneness of man or on the age-old assump-
understand the factors tion that any stranger is threatening. Much would
involved in responding depend on what, if anything, was communicated
to such crises the better between man and the other beings: since after the dis-
prepared we may be. covery there will be years of silence (because even the
closest stars are several light years away, an exchange
5. While the discovery of intelligent life in other parts of radio communication would take twice the number
of the universe is not likely in the immediate future, of light years separating our sun from theirs), the fact
it could nevertheless happen at any time. Whenever that such beings existed might become simply one of
it does occur its consequences for earth attitudes and the facts of life but probably not one calling for action.
values may be profound. Hence a long-term research Whether earthmen would be inspired to all-out space
effort, which would aid in preparing for this possibil- efforts by such a discovery is a moot question. An-
ity, could usefully begin with: thropological files contain many examples of societ-
A continuing determination of emotional and intel- ies, sure of their place in the universe, which have
lectual understanding and attitudes regarding the disintegrated when they have had to associate with
possibility and consequences of discovering intelligent previously unfamiliar societies espousing different
extraterrestrial life. ideas and different life ways; others that survived such
an experience usually did so by paying the price of
Section 9: Attitudes and Values: Possible changes in values and attitudes and behavior.
Implications for the General Public Since intelligent life might
Recent publicity given to efforts to detect extrater- be discovered at any time via
restrial messages via radio telescope has popular- the radio telescope research
ized—and legitimized—speculations about the impact presently under way, and since
of such a discovery on human values. It is conceivable the consequences of such a
that there is semi-intelligent life in some part of our discovery are presently unpre-
solar system or highly intelligent life which is not dictable because of our limited
technologically oriented, and many cosmologists and knowledge of behavior under
astronomers think it very likely that there is intelligent even an approximation of such
life in many other solar systems. While face-to-face dramatic circumstances, two
meetings with it will not occur within the next twenty research areas can be recom-
years (unless its technology is more advanced than mended:
ours, qualifying it to visit earth), artifacts left at some
point in time by these life forms might possibly be • Continuing studies to
discovered through our space activities on the Moon, determine emotional and intellectual understanding
Mars, or Venus. If there is any contact to be made dur- and attitudes—and successive alterations of them if
ing the next twenty years it would most likely be by any—regarding the possibility and consequences of
radio—which would indicate that these beings had at discovering intelligent extraterrestrial life.
least equaled our own technological level. • Historical and empirical studies of the behavior of
peoples and their leaders when confronted with dra-
An individual’s reactions to such a radio contact matic and unfamiliar events or social pressures. Such
would in part depend on his cultural, religious, and studies might help to provide programs for meeting
social background, as well as on the actions of those and adjusting to the implications of such a discovery.
he considered authorities and leaders and their be- Questions one might wish to answer by such studies
havior, in turn would in part depend on their cultural, would include: How might such information, under
social, and religious environment. The discovery what circumstances, be presented to or withheld from

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the public for what ends? What might be the role of The vast majority of evangelical, fundamentalist Chris-
the discovering scientists and other decision makers tians are as reasonable in their actions and as demure in
regarding release of the fact of discovery? their behavior as any run-of-the-mill secularist. The few
that are extreme are just that—a few. Nothing new here,
These are measured statements completely in accord and global policy can’t be held hostage to the discomfort
with an academic analysis. They clearly could be used of a few.
to support an intellectual argument in the privacy of gov- If there is a government policy basis for concern regard-
ernment meeting rooms as to why government person- ing evangelical Christians, it would more appropriately
nel should maintain strict secrecy controls regarding all be their end times, Rapture beliefs when in close prox-
things extraterrestrial and honor all appropriate non-dis- imity to the executive branch of government. This issue
closure/secrecy agreements until such time as the govern- has been raised by numerous journalists, including Bill
ment felt comfortable with a public disclosure. Perhaps Moyers. Why worry about the environment or a prophecy
they even tossed in 1938 for emphasis. fulfilling war in the Middle East when the Second Coming
But to use these dry, academic projections to assert the and the end is near?
Brookings Institution sagely made the case human beings Whatever the outcome of that debate, the obvious point
(particularly those in the United States and First World to make is that such an end-times belief structure would
nations) 10, 20, 40 years in the future would fall apart, only serve to insulate that worldview from a disclosure
society would collapse, and the sum of all benefits from event, not incite mayhem. There are other beings in the
global awareness of the truth would be drowned out by universe. So what? Just one more irrelevant piece of in-
some anthropological comparisons, is, well, thin. formation at the end of days. It is long past time to stop
Read it again. Does it strike fear in your heart? On a using fundamentalist Christians as scapegoats to justify
scale of one to ten, how does it measure up to the con- continuing the truth embargo.
stant drumbeat of government predictions of possible
dirty bomb, nuclear, biological, and chemical attacks by X-Conference 2005
persons unknown? As of this writing, the April 22–24, 2005 X-Conference
Said predictions are made in the open, not carefully has commitments from Paul Davids, Richard Dolan, John
couched in private reports. If the Brookings Report had Greenewald, Paola Harris, Michael Heiser Phd, Lynne D.
been made public in the early 1960s, it would have been Kitei MD, Jaime Maussan, Richard Sauder PhD, David
debated by intellectuals around the world until its more Sereda, and Alfred L. Webre JD. The balance of eight lec-
cautionary assertions were as inert as neon gas. turers and six additional panelists should be posted to the
conference website by the end of January. UFO
Attack of the 50-foot Insane Christian
Stephen Bassett is a political activist, founder of the
Fundamentalists Paradigm Research Group, executive director of the
Here is a misperception (misinformation?) I am quite Extraterrestrial Phenomena Political Action Commit-
tired of hearing. While most people will be able to handle tee (X-PPAC), author of the Paradigm Clock website,
and a political columnist and commentator. You can
a disclosure event, those crazy disciples of Jerry Falwell reach him at: ParadigmRG@aol.com
will become so upset they will literally bring down society
Brookings Report: www.anomalies.net/brookings/re-
all by themselves. They will commit terrible unspecified port.pdf
acts so heinous the disclosure event will be catastrophic. War of the Worlds Broadcast: http://history1900s.
Pleeeeeeese! about.com/od/1930s/a/warofworlds.htm

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UFO Secrets: India’s Military; Joint Russian/Iranian Study
by Guy Malone Indian Army,” but the Indian Army and Air Force block
Military involvement with UFOs continues to become the sensitive zones to curious Indians and Chinese.
higher profile worldwide, although the sources of some
stories remain questionable. India Daily (see additional Russia, Iran Join Forces
article below) published the story of a reporter’s chance At least two other nations have recently joined the group
nightclub encounter with an unnamed but “very senior of governments forced to address the UFO problem. Fol-
Indian military official ...” whom the reporter claims said: lowing a rash of sightings, World Net Daily reports that
“Extraterrestrials have been visiting India and the rest of “Russia and Iran have agreed to jointly study the UFO
the world for thousands of years. In recent days most of phenomenon” and to work together in space research and
the superpowers have been formally contacted.” in the construction of satellites. WND stated in April that
The article continued to tell of a retired Indian Air Force Iran had been struck with UFO fever after Reuters like-
flight commodore who spoke to schoolchildren about an wise reported that the state-run television “broadcast a
underground UFO landing base in Ladakh, located be- sparkling white disc flying over the capital of Tehran,”
tween India’s incomprehensible mountain ranges. Quot- and that people from eight towns ran outside to witness
ing Tsering Spalzang, another senior official, “All para- “bright extraterrestrial lights.”
normal activities are happening with the knowledge of the The Jerusalem Post more recently stated that “Flying ob-
ject fever has gripped Iran,” and reports that shoot-down
orders have been issued for any “unknown or mysterious
objects” in Iran’s airspace, since so many of the reported
hundreds (according to Whitley Strieber’s www.unknown
country.com) of UFO sightings are occurring over Iran’s
nuclear installations.
Related articles on the sightings and Iran’s aggressive
stance have appeared in www.mosnews.com (i.e., Mos-
cow News), Resalat, and from the Islamic Republic News
Agency, as well as the Associated Press. However, only
Unknown Country mentions that Iran’s fly-overs parallel
UFO flaps associated with American nuclear installations
in the 1940s, 1950s, and 1970s, making U.S. spy satel-
lites slightly less obvious suspects. Perhaps unaware of
Strieber or America’s past “nuclear UFO flaps,” the Per-
sian Journal and India Daily nonetheless argue that the
“United States has excellent satellite imagery and hence
does not need low-altitude spy planes to monitor the ac-
tivities” of Iran’s nuclear facilities.
Exploding Object Over China
Dozens of newspapers and online sources reported on
an exploding UFO seen over China by hundreds of peo-
ple, but it seems most likely that the word UFO was used
repeatedly only for the sake of grabbing eyeballs with sen-
sational headlines.
The UFO was described as a streaking fireball accom-
panied by one or more explosions and is believed to have
crashed in the suburbs of Lanzhou. Local authorities re-
ceived over 700 calls, and earthquake-like tremors were
reported 100 km from the apparent crash site. Most specu-

UFO February • March 2005 21


lation argued that it was really a meteor, although no frag- offers a photo from Chile with a bold UFO Confirmed head-
ments or evidence of any kind has been found to support line, while in the U.K., one area is seeing so much activity
either the meteor or the UFO hypothesis. that the BBC has actually set up a UFO webcam at a high-
way interchange on the Flintshire-Cheshire border. Web-
Ausie Sightings surfers are invited to freeze photos and mail them for fur-
Australian news sources were kept busy with UFO ac- ther investigation by local UFO researchers. Clicking any
tivity in December—first with a sighting in Darwin that saucer on the online map will take you to either photos or a
lasted close to 2 hours, consisting of flashing red, blue, recent report. Check out the cam at www.bbc.co.uk/wales/
and green lights which “neither the RAAF nor the airport” northeast/guides/weird/ufos/pages/dobshill_ufo.shtml
could account for. Several readers phoned the story in, ac-
Russian Biologist Hailed For UFO Sleuthing
cording to The Australian. And in Mildura, a barbequing
family reported a daylight sighting initially of a single, Back in the USSR, Vladivostok News spotlights Russian
“shiny white object” that eventually remained stationary biologist Valery Dvuzhilny, noted by the paper as one of
in the sky, only to be joined by two other similar objects in Russia’s “most notable specialists in the investigation of
a mid-air rendezvous. ABC Victoria’s site (www.abc.net. unidentified flying objects.” The story begins by recount-
au/victoria/) offers audio links to full interviews with the ing a 1980 expedition, where he and others witnessed a
family members. flying disc land. According to the article, Dvuzhilny runs a
lab in his apartment with over a thousand samples from ar-
Videocams On Alert eas where other UFOs are thought to have touched down.
Continuing around the globe, Alberta, Canada keeps He has been featured in American and Japanese UFO doc-
breaking its own records for UFO reports—one former umentaries and says that he dreams of opening Russia’s
UFO nonbeliever has even begun recording his sightings first UFO Museum.
on film and in a journal, claiming to see as many as four
U.S.-UFO Matters Marking More Media Time
objects in the sky at once. The website www.rense.com
While never free of them entirely, in America UFO sto-
ries seem to be graduating from news-of-the-weird-type
columns. Los Angeles-based talk show Let’s Talk Paranor-
mal featured Dr. Roger Leir, who discussed implants and
his ten surgeries related to removing them. Kudos to host
Tracie Austin-Peters for giving the topic airtime in such a
large market, and also to Las Vegas’ KLAS-TV for a two-
night investigative report on black triangles, the text of
which can still be read online at www.klas-tv.com. The
news station polled their southern Nevada websurfers,
and over 25 percent claim to have seen a black triangle.
Florida Today­—never shy about publishing UFO-relat-
ed stories—revisits an alleged U.S. military encounter, de-
scribed as a “UFO air battle that began in Florida, shifted
to the Eastern seaboard and ended in an Air Force white-
wash.” Frank Feshino, author of a new book on the sub-
ject (The Braxton County Monster, www.flatwoodsmon-
ster.com) claims that over a dozen USAF jet fighters were
destroyed in the 1952 incident.
Heading west, Deseret Morning News asks “Is Dugway
The New Area 51?” Many believe that Groom Lake’s most
sensitive projects have been moved, and the online article
details a remote region of Utah which the U.S. military
seeks to expand by as much as 145 square miles, due to
too much scrutiny by alien-hunters­—specifically www.
abovetopsecret.com and “Alien Dave,” who regularly
photographs the region and reports on what he sees.

Daytona Champ Reveals UFO Sighting


Georgia’s Augusta Chronicle included an interview with
two-time Daytona 500 winner Sterling Marlin­, who spoke
Original artwork: Shawn Kennedy. of his UFO sighting. And www.earthfiles.com features an
Contact: iromaker@msn.com article by Linda Moulton Howe and Grant Cameron ar-

22 February • March 2005 UFO


guing that former presidential candidate General Wesley
Clark was probably briefed on UFOs. When asked about
this directly by noted researcher David Rudiak, General Academy of Remote Viewing
Clark looked down, mentioned that he was visiting Ros­
well, and then finally answered, “There are things going Remote Influencing Thought and Reality
on. But we will have to work out our own mathematics.” • As seen on TV shows: Sightings and the real X-Files •
• Become the Ultimate Space/Time Travel Machine •
Eminem Honored by Raelians • Taught by Former Intelligence Operative •
On a weird note, rap star Eminem was named an honor-
ary priest by the Raelian religion, in honor of the antiwar Remote Viewing and Remote Influencing Teach
lyrics featured on his video Mosh. According to www.hi- YOU
phopdx.com, the singer has not yet responded to the Rae- to Powerfully:
lians for bestowing him the honorary title. In other music
news, hip-hop singer and “Pimp My Ride” host Xzibit • Influence the thoughts of others
• Create reality to your highest desire
somehow managed to get quoted in www.southflorida.
• Erase emotional scars and painful memories
com as saying that “only white people” see aliens or • Reprogram your subconscious
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UFO February • March 2005 23


Mission to Tokyo (or, Peter Has More Fun Than Anybody Else in Ufology)
by Peter Robbins Junichi—Jun to his friends—works for a respected ad-
Coming up through the ranks in American ufology, I vertising firm by day and lives with his wife Yuko and
never heard or learned much about the status or popu- children, Sumire and Ko, in a quiet district on the out-
larity of UFO studies among Japanese investigators, but skirts of Tokyo. OUR-J’s office is in an old section of To-
took it for granted that colleagues there were pursuing the kyo, and though small, is often bustling and packed with
subject as earnestly as we their counterparts were in the printed, recorded, and photographic information.
States. Jun’s interest in UFOs goes back to his childhood in Aki-
By the late 1980s, while researching England’s Rendle- ta Prefecture. It was there at the age of 5 that he and his
sham Forest UFO incident for Left At East Gate, I learned brother and some friends watched as a strange light came
that many in Japan took this incident most seriously, so in above the field where they were playing baseball.
much so that eyewitness Larry Warren, the case’s whis- “It was a large elliptical orange thing, kind of like a bike
tleblower (and my co-author) had been invited to speak wheel, although I’m not sure if it was rotating.” Unknown
about his experience in Tokyo in October, 1984. This past to Jun or the other children at the time, more than fifty
October, 20 years to the month later, I had the opportunity people at nearby Akita Airport also reported seeing the
to visit and learn about the current state of Japanese UFO phenomenon, which was also captured by a documentary
research for myself. film crew. I could relate to this event, since the effect of a
My first-hand experience has convinced me that ufol- similarly impacting childhood sighting ultimately led to
ogy is very much alive and well in the land of the rising my entering the field, as well.
sun, and nowhere more than at the office and meetings of Over the intervening years, Jun and OUR-J’s members
the Organization for UFO Research Japan, a national UFO have been responsible for numerous, uncontested, and
investigative group better known by its acronym OUR-J. anomalous photographs of aerial unknowns in the skies
This outstanding group and its dynamic Director Junichi above Japan, including a jolting selection of photos of ob-
Kato are at the forefront of mainstreaming the subject for jects captured directly above Tokyo.
an increasingly interested Japanese public. One of my concerns in developing a working relationship
Photo courtesy: Jun Kato

Peter Robbins with OUR-J members at informal gathering following national conference in Tokyo.

24 February • March 2005 UFO


with OUR-J was whether or quested lecture topics were the Bentwaters-Woodbridge
not the group was governed UFO incident, as well as the current state of UFO research
more by mystical attitudes in the U.S., the U.K., and Europe. Having never visited
or by scientific thinking. Japan, I was excited by the prospect and likewise flattered
Cult-like thinking perme- to be the first non-Japanese asked to lecture for this group.
ates numerous UFO groups Over the next months I prepared my papers and submit-
in the East just as it does in ted them for approval and translation. As I was to learn,
the West, keeping the sub- Japanese UFO conferences were considerably more for-
ject closeted in a manipula- mal than their American counterparts.
tive system of pseudo-facts I departed Newark International Airport on Wednes-
and beliefs. OUR-J’s man- day, October 20 and arrived at Narita Airport somewhat
date was anything but airy. bleary-eyed after the 13-hour flight. There I was met by
“In Japan, most UFO Toshie and Jun’s wife Yuko Kato. The two would remain
groups are cults or religious my primary companions, guides, and translators for the
groups. We’re not anything duration, and what great hosts they and Jun were! It was
like that,” noted Jun. “I make genuinely moving to see Mount Fuji for the first time from
it clear to members that they the train into the city, where we arrived around dusk. I
shouldn’t hide their inter- checked into my hotel, had a great dinner with my spon-
Photo courtesy: Yuko Kato

est from their families—this sors, then returned to my hotel where I slept like a log
isn’t something to hide.” until late Friday morning.
While lamenting the fact The next day, Yuko, Toshie, and I linked up with Jun
that Japanese investigators and had lunch at a very Japanese-style Chinese restaurant
have yet to undertake the in the Takashimaya Department Store, followed by coffee
Peter at Asakusa Kannon, the rigorous investigative work (yes, Starbucks) on the building’s roof garden. We spent
Sensoji Temple in Tokyo. that their American and that evening at Jun and Yuko’s home, where Toshie and I
British counterparts have, reviewed and timed our simultaneous English and Japa-
Jun Kato’s sighting reports, surveys, university lectures, nese versions of my talks. Later we ordered out for dinner:
television appearances, and regularly published commen- Italian food from Domino’s Pizza.
taries in leading newspapers and magazines have made Like us, the Japanese share a real fondness for both
him a uniquely important player in the field whose in- Chinese and Italian cuisine, and it was great fun to tear
telligence, passion and personality keep OUR-J members into the pizza, pasta, and garlic bread at the traditional
and a growing segment of the public focused on the more floor-height Japanese dining table. It was also that evening
scientific and pragmatic aspects of UFO research. that I met Jun and Yuko’s children, Sumire, eight, and Ko,
My relationship with the group began in 2000. While seven. We hit it off wonderfully, and the two of them re-
working as editor-in-chief of the website www.ufocity. mained my close companions for much of the remainder
com, I was contacted by Toshie Nakagawa, an OUR-J of- of my visit.
ficer and the organization’s
leading translator who is
fluent in English. She’d writ-
ten to tell me that interest in
England’s 1980 Bentwaters-
Woodbridge UFO incident
was still strong in Japan and
that OUR-J wanted to know
how Larry Warren and I
felt about allowing them to
translate and excerpt por-
tions of our book for their
quarterly, UFO Report Japan.
We obliged gladly.
Toshie and I met when she
Photo courtesy: Jun Kato

attended the 2002 national


MUFON conference, held
that year in Rochester, NY,
where I was a speaker. Then
in late 2003, I was invited
to speak at OUR-J’s annual Peter with three OUR-J members at banquet following national conference in
conference for 2004. The re- Tokyo. Note his flawless red tie and expert one-handed food maneuver.

UFO February • March 2005 25


OUR-J’s Fifth National Conference was held on Satur- anything but that in Tokyo. Shortly after I arrived, I was
day, October 23. The venue was a building in downtown sequestered in their green room with my translator, then
Tokyo designed specifically for conferences, receptions, brought out just before my first talk and seated at a small
and other events. Staff members were both professional dais, memorable for a particularly Japanese touch: a sin-
and courteous, and the great majority of attendees dressed gle, beautiful flower arrangement.
formally for the occasion. The group’s demographic inter- Toshie was seated at a table to my right. Those in atten-
ested me, as well. dance were seated in rows but at tables where they were
Unlike a similar event stateside—primarily male domi- free to take notes and keep a water glass at hand. I would
nated and middle-aged, OUR-J members and friends read several sentences from my paper, and then pause
seemed equally divided between men and women who while Toshie translated. Upon completion I received a
ranged in age from their teens to well into their seven- polite ovation to which I stood and bowed, and was then
ties. A good percentage were professionals, as well, with led from the hall.
doctors, lawyers, business executives, and distinguished After drawing a bit with the kids, I returned to the green
academics being more the norm than not. room until it was time to present my second paper. Both
The event’s proceedings were well designed and fea- PowerPoint presentations went off without a hitch and
tured a moving memorial tribute to Graham Birdsall, com- my efforts were again well received. After completing the
plete with photo. Graham had made a huge impression second talk, Jun made his closing remarks, and then many
on the OUR-J members who’d met him the previous year photos were taken of all in attendance. This was followed
at the Laughlin, NV conference, as had UFO Magazine. I by one more trip to the green room, this time for an inter-
was moved to see my friend remembered and honored so, view for a national magazine. Simultaneous to this, the
even though he had been gone for more than a year. Sadly, remaining fifty or sixty OUR-J members had regrouped on
both of my talks were dedicated to another friend and col- the building’s top floor to prepare for the banquet that was
league, Dr. John Mack, who had been killed by a drunken being held in my honor.
driver only a month earlier. And what a banquet it was—replete with all kinds of
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The Myth of Crashed Disk Retrievals
by George W. Earley ances had to be re-measured just days before the carriers
Airplanes fly, and occasionally one crashes, whereupon arrived to be sure they hadn’t changed. In some cases, usu-
the government investigates and in due time publicly re- ally as a result of road resurfacing, the clearances weren’t
ports results and conclusions. enough, and preplanned detours had to be used.
UFOs fly and, presumably, one will crash now and then, The end result of my research into CDR claims was a
whereupon the government whisks the crashed disk to a two-part Fate Magazine article, “Crashed Saucers and
secluded location, makes a thorough examination, clas- Pickled Aliens” (March and April, 1981) and “Saucer
sifies results and conclusions, and also denies that there Tales in Frontiers of Science” (January/February 1982).
ever was a crash in the first place. So say those who make Using data compiled by Len Stringfield, I identified sev-
up ufology’s “retrievalist” faction. But nowhere in retrie- enteen cases of alleged saucer crashes during the period
valist literature, or in skeptical writings, has the “how” of 1947 thru 1973. The data was sketchy at best. Disk di-
moving such large objects ever been examined. ameter in eight of the seventeen cases was listed as “un-
known.”
Of the nine remaining cases, one involved three 13 x 25-
foot ovals; one disk was 15–20 feet in diameter; another
was 25–30 feet in diameter, while the disks in the remain-
ing six cases were claimed to range from 30 feet up to 100
feet in diameter—one-third the length of a football field!
Picture that rolling down your town’s main street!
Which is where it would have had to go, since in those
days there was no interstate highway system with its wide
roads that went around—not through—every city, town,
and hamlet lying between various crash sites and the
guarded installations—Ohio’s Wright Patterson Air Force
Base; Area 51; Langley, Virginia; Muroc in California,
In March, 1980, I returned to the aerospace industry, etc.—to which the crashed disks were allegedly taken.
joining a team of engineers in creating the world’s most And, not so incidentally, construction of the interstate
powerful wind turbine. When erected near Medicine Bow, highway system did not even begin until after fourteen
Wyoming, this behemoth stood over 200 feet high and its crashes, involving more than fourteen disks, had hap-
4-megawatt generator was powered by a huge propeller pened. The remaining crashes allegedly took place while
over 250 feet in diameter. the system was being built, but was yet unfinished.
It was the problem of moving the turbine’s twin blades, What sort of a truck would you need for a disk “merely”
each 125 feet long and 14 feet at their widest, from Con- 30 feet in diameter, let alone one 100-feet across? Accord-
necticut to Wyoming that caused me to take a hard look at
crashed disk retrieval (CDR) claims.
The ease with which ufologists believed such huge fly-
ing saucers (disks reportedly up to 100 feet in diameter)
could be disguised and moved contrasted sharply with
the problems our team had to overcome to move our big
blades. Planning started a full year before the move. Once
a route was chosen, it was necessary to coordinate with
the state police and other agencies in each state through
which the blades would be trucked.
Every overpass, where local roads crossed over interstate
highways, had to be measured to ensure clearance was ad-
equate for the blades to pass underneath, then those clear-

UFO February • March 2005 27


ing to trucking industry representatives at the time I wrote 18 feet, 6 inches in diameter by 13 feet, 6 inches high,
my articles, there were no trucks in those CDR days capa- rode on a specially built 110-wheel flatbed truck trailer
ble of carrying loads “having diameters or widths beyond to its new home in Palo Alto, California. The trip took
12 feet or so.” Really big stuff in those days, and even 21 days at an average speed of 25 mph and required the
today, was built in reasonably transportable sections and “complete cooperation of officials from the states through
assembled on site. which the magnet passed.”
So, okay, no trucks. Let’s take a train. Sorry. Trains must Note that these were all one-of-a-kind events; that in ev-
bear even tighter restrictions on what they can carry. West ery case the transport vehicles came from the civilian sec-
of Kansas City, height limits on cargo (which have to in- tor, and that months of advance planning were required
clude the height of flatcars above the track) is 16 feet, 3 before each trip was made.
inches; east of Kansas City the height limit drops to 14 To me, one of the most interesting aspects of all this
feet, 3 inches. A man cannot stand atop a boxcar when is that when my articles appeared, both the CSICOPian
it goes through a tunnel, and the tunnels themselves are skeptics and the retrievalists flatly ignored them. While
rarely much wider than the rail cars. I think the skeptics preferred not to admit they had over-
So, let’s fly it. Nope. No cargo plane in those days could looked the transportation angle of CDR in their rush to
take even the smallest crashed saucer. Can’t we take it simply pooh-pooh the entire topic, I was surprised that
apart? Just send pieces of it by train, plane, or truck? Well, they failed to grasp the opportunity to needle the retrie-
if you believe (as do most retrievalists) the crashed saucer valists for also overlooking it. And I fear the retrievalists
tales spun by Frank Scully in Behind the Flying Saucers, were simply exercising the old “Don’t confuse me with
the saucer material was impenetrable. Hence, those 100- facts, my mind is made up” reflex. Hardly a scientific at-
foot diameter saucers Scully wrote about would have had titude by either group.
to be moved intact. I did draw the attention of Dr. Robert Wood (who, with
There have been a few notable exceptions to some of the his son Ryan, is among the leading “MJ-12 is real” propo-
above restrictions. In 1936, Corning Glass shipped “The nents) who spoke on Stringfield’s work in Las Vegas at the
200-Inch Telescope Disc from Corning, New York to Pasa- 2nd CDR conference last November. (See article, p. 43.)
dena, California. The almost 17-foot diameter disk rode up- Though he read my articles and spent some phone time
right, in a special flatcar whose floor had been cut to lower discussing them with me, his talk blithely kissed off the
the disc to just a few inches above the roadbed. The circu- topic, claiming that:
itous trip took two weeks, with several detours required • The military doesn’t need to get approval to move
when some clearances turned out to be less than believed. equipment.
In 1945, “Jumbo” was a huge, steel “bottle” intended • Plans for moving outsized equipment have been in
for use in the Trinity A-bomb test in New Mexico that place for years.
preceded the bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Jumbo • Army Corps of Engineers know how to do this.
was over 25 feet long, 12 feet, 8 inches in diameter and • Etc. Documentation? None.
weighed 114 tons. To carry it required the Army to bor- I’ll give the late Leonard Stringfield the final word. When
row a special one-of-a-kind, 12-axle railcar, owned by the he autographed my copy of his Status Report VI on Sep-
Carnegie-Illinois Steel Corporation, which had been built tember 15, 1991, he wrote: “Still looking for proof!” UFO
to transport “huge ladles of molten steel” in the factory.
It took several weeks in April, 1945 to move Jumbo from George W. Earley, aka The Opinionated Oregonian™,
Barberton, Ohio to Pope, New Mexico; the circuitous route lives in Mount Hood, Oregon where, when traveling
on interstate highways, he has yet to see an unconven-
sent Jumbo as far south as New Orleans. Off-loaded at tional outsized object.
Pope, Jumbo traveled the
remaining 30 miles on a
specially built 30-wheel
flatbed trailer pushed and
pulled (at three mph) by
four Caterpillar tractors.
(My thanks to Stanton
Friedman for tipping me
to this incident.)
Then, in 1979, The Ar-
gonne National Lab­oratory
in Chicago declared its su-
perconducting magnet sur-
plus. Promptly acquired by
the Stanford Linear Accel-
erator Center, the 107-ton
magnet, which measured

28 February • March 2005 UFO


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The Braxton County Monster

THE BOOK THAT REVEALS THE TRUTH BEHIND


THE MOST TERRIFYING
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“TRULY EXTRAORDINARY INVESTIGATIVE WORK BY FRANK.”
Stanton T. Friedman

The Cover-up of the Flatwoods Monster revealed by Frank Feschino, Jr.


On September 12, 1952, shocked Americans throughout the East Coast contacted the Pentagon and police
stations to report the sightings and landings of UFOs in astounding numbers. One of these UFOs landed in
Flatwoods, West Virginia, where a group of unsuspecting townspeople lived a night of terror when their paths
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UFO February • March 2005 29


If You Finally Get Some Hard Proof, Call Me!
by George Noory like a piece of lost property catalogued on a long-forgot-
One of the more exciting, but at the same time, frustrat- ten manifest, yellowed with age, and just barely legible
ing things about UFO studies is the uncertainty of the without electronic enhancement.
evidence. Even something that appears to be hard-rock Or maybe the proof still exists in flight records of those
solid as a piece of supporting evidence for the presence dauntless Air Force pilots who, following almost suicide
of extraterrestrials and their involvement with humans, orders, engaged vastly technologically superior UFOs
such as a piece of a crashed saucer or a section of an ET’s with their P51s or other World War II or Korean War vin-
cadaver, can turn out in the end to be only molten metal tage fighters, only to be shot out of the sky. Might there
from a very terrestrial and mundane source or the remains still turn up a witness to the mysterious crash of Captain
of an animal petrified over time. Mantell’s plane, which, in a scene possibly out of the
I’ve always believed that the evidence was out there, movie This Island Earth, was captured by a strange-col-
maybe still buried on the plains of San Agustin or, as re- ored beam when the pilot ventured too close to a UFO?
tired Special Agent Joe Gutheinz will tell you in this issue, Ask yourselves, what did Joe Gutheinz see on floor of
locked away at the Johnson Space Center in Houston or in that camouflaged building at Los Alamos? Were they luck-
a containment vault at Los Alamos. I’ve always wanted less scientific investigators who were dissolved in a mo-
to find the documentary smoking gun as well, a memo ment by the radiological and highly toxic emanations of
or letter which was never meant to find its way into the aliens being autopsied at one of our most secret research
public domain in which some unknown special advisor facilities in New Mexico? Not even Joe Gutheinz can tell
or science consultant engages in a slip of the tongue and us what those empty hazmat suits prove.
refers to a UFO crash. But it would have to be a document Were you one of those transfixed to your television set
that was irrefutable. 10 years ago when Star Trek’s Jonathan Frakes introduced
In the field of ufology, we’ve seen many documents in us to Ray Santilli’s alien autopsy footage? There were a
our time that purport to be the smok-
ing guns. There was the Twining
memo, there were the mysterious
MJ-12 documents that turned up in
Jaime Shandera’s mailbox, and there
were other discoveries of docu-
ments holding themselves out to be
protocols for interactions between
the military and ETs. At the crash
retrieval conference recently, mo-
tion picture producer Paul Davids
interviewed Bob and Ryan Wood,
pere et fils, about these papers and
their ongoing meticulous work in
looking for documentary proof that
our government has had continuing
interactions with ETs.
Photo courtesy Tim Cridland

I interviewed author Jim Marrs on


Coast, while he was at the crash re-
trieval conference, about the Texas
airship incident and about the mys-
terious tiny creature folks say was
buried in a lonely graveyard. Think
of the rocking proof that would be if Bags of potential evidence from the Crash Retrieval Conference (see page
the body turned up somewhere just 43) await investigation, analysis, and of course, debunking.

30 February • March 2005 UFO


goodly number of people, no doubt, who thought they the Army. And I’m simply awestruck at the way scientists
were looking at the real thing. That inner black eye lens like Bernard Haisch and Hal Puthoff, and Jim Deardorff and
that was peeled away from the alien’s eye certainly looked Bruce Maccabee, too, are able to put forth their theories
convincing as though, even if it were a fake, somebody on the possibilities of extraterrestrial life in an important
sure knew something. Yet, according to the show’s pro- science journal. The revelation that the Air Force spent a
ducer Bob Kiviat, interviewed by Don Ecker on his radio large chunk of dough on Eric Davis’s teleportation report
show and in this issue, it was a straight-out hoax and Kiv- is perhaps another example of the truth seeking its way to
iat even saw the proof of that. No more questions about the surface. These outcroppings of indicators of doors into
that one, as you’ll see. other realms and alternate realities, while not a huge moth-
Maybe the irrefutable evidence won’t even come from ership landing on the White House lawn (an event I hope
the United States at all. Maybe it will come from Europe, I never see) are even better. They are the leaks in whatever
in the form of a disclosure about flying triangles, or South- coverup still remains, the little knotholes in the old cen-
east Asia, where the Indian newspapers have been saying terfield fence through which you used to be able to watch
local governments are about to make some important an- Triple-A minor league ball back in the 1950s.
nouncement about UFOs, or from South America, where Somewhere on that field of dreams there is a stunning
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BUILDING 265 by Joseph Richard Gutheinz, Jr., J.D.

32 Editor’s note: A retired, highly decoratedFebruary


NASA investigator,
• Marchthe author of this astonishing tale is an irrefutably UFO
2005
impeccable source. But whether the following story is truthful or the bad dream of its author is for you, the reader, to
decide through your own investigations of the author’s allegations.
F rom Roswell to White Sands to Area 51, the secret
of UFOs and the extraterrestrials who crash land-
ed here has been tracked, documented, and—at least
There were no windows in the heavily concreted and
partially earth-covered building, which provided ex-
cellent soundproofing but denied the occupants an un-
until a few years ago—held behind massive safe doors derstanding of the outside conditions or an apprecia-
in an underground bunker complex known simply as tion for what time it was, except for a reliance on our
Building 265 at the Johnson Space Center. I was never government-issue clocks. NASA prohibited cameras in
a UFO enthusiast; in fact, I was more of a skeptic. But this building, and for some unknown reason our wrist-
all that changed 13 years ago when I stumbled across watches ran slower in this environment, making them
a secret no one outside of a select group was ever sup- unreliable.
posed to know. NASA is populated by engineers, administrative man-
Today I am a criminal defense attorney in Texas, but agers, mid-level bureaucrats, and bean counters. I was
back then, just 5 years ago, I was a criminal fraud in- different. I was a special agent, a “space cop,” if you
vestigator for the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) like. I had always been a maverick within NASA, re-
inside NASA. I was also a special deputy U.S. mar- lentlessly investigating fraud, waste, and abuse without
shal, a modern-day Wyatt Earp assigned to protect our concern about repercussions from the NASA managers.
nation’s space agency from those who would steal from Because I worked for the inspector general, I was in-
it, put our astronauts’ lives in danger, or try to rip off dependent, and one time the results of one of my in-
the hard-working American taxpayer. vestigations actually stopped NASA operations dead
I covered fraud investigations ranging from aerospace in their tracks. In 1991, I investigated defective temper-
contractors involved in bid-rigging and inflating cost ature transducers, a problem which led to the ground-
overruns, to an individual who impersonated an astro- ing of the entire space shuttle fleet. The following year
naut, to outright theft of public property. In 1992, I was I led a task force that ultimately would put seven com-
leading a nine-agency, 25-man (and woman) task-force panies out of business and result in the highest count
fraud investigation known as Operation Tall Timber. indictment and conviction in NASA history. The task
Predicated on security concerns and size constraints, force members dubbed this case Operation Tall Tim-
the task force was placed in half of Building 265 at ber, which was housed in Building 265.
Johnson Space Center. The portion of the complex I NASA was always curious about what I was doing
controlled was accessed through a safe door, but with- with my task force, but I shut off information going to
in the complex itself there were two other safe doors, them, and I routinely denied or limited the access of
each leading to the underground bunker for which we, NASA personnel to Building 265. On occasion NASA
the task force members, had not been granted access. would send security personnel to ring the doorbell of
One of these internal safe doors was at one end of a the complex late at night, to try to get a look-see. But as
large conference room whose other end opened into a a law enforcement officer I could—and almost always
hallway. During the daytime, with one million pieces did—deny them access.
of evidence contained therein, the task force side of
the building was always a hive of activity. However,
at night only I, as the task-force leader, remained. My
office was at the far end of a cold, desolate and uninvit-
ing hallway.

UFO February • March 2005 33


for which I had cogni-
zance. At first, it was but
a nuisance, and within
the usually soundless
void I worked, it was
also a curiosity. So, I
worked through it. As
I worked, the hum in-
creased to an intolerable
level, and, stumbling to
my feet with my hands
clasped over my ears,
I was finally forced to
lunge for the exit, bump-
ing into the walls as I
went down the hallway.
I reached the safe-door
exit, pressed the quick
release, and left the
building.
I was standing at the
back of the building
where our entrance was
located, looking out at
a dirt track as the hum
completely dissipated.
This track had only been
used sporadically since
the Apollo days when
our astronauts ran on
it. The area seemed de-
serted. Very few people
worked at NASA this
late at night, and for me
to see anyone but securi-
ty personnel at this time
was unusual.
But there in the dark I
Author and award winner: Joseph E. Gutheinz, with his shield and could see an old, white-
credentials. He is the recipient of the NASA exceptional service medal. bearded man with a
cane, standing no more
than a 100 feet in front
Compounding NASA’s suspicions about my work of me, stealthily casting sidelong glances at me. I sus-
during this time was the existence of a second ma- pected initially that it was some NASA bureaucrat told
jor operation taking place at Johnson Space Center. to watch the building, a thought that made me very
Known as Operation Lightning Strike, this project was angry. I walked across the thin strip of grass separating
led by the FBI and included a few NASA OIG Agents. the parking lot from the track and approached the old
Like Operation Tall Timber, Operation Lightning Strike man.
was a multi-agency task force investigation, but, un- I said, in a kind of a completely flat, but menacingly
like Operation Tall Timber, it was wholly undercover. polite, tone you’d expect from a highway patrol officer
The two task force investigations ran independently of sticking his head inside the driver’s side window after
each other, and for the most part had no overlapping catching someone on radar doing a hundred in a 55
personnel. mile-an-hour zone, “Sir, can I help you? My name is
One night, about midnight, an inexplicable hum rang Special Agent Gutheinz, and the building behind me is
out through my office and the whole complex of offices used by law enforcement, so we have to check out any-

34 February • March 2005 UFO


one we see who seems out of place. And at this hour, camouflaged earth-toned building. One of the creatures
that would be you.” had survived for a few hours and then died. Sometime
Actually, I found myself saying far more than I need- later, autopsies were performed on the aliens. The or-
ed to or usually would. gans were removed from each creature and placed in
The old man answered, “You only have access to part a preservative solution. The bodies were subsequently
of the building, not the bunker.” I was surprised by reassembled, absent the organs, and transported to
his knowledge and then noticed that the man was not Johnson Space Center, to your building behind you.”
wearing a NASA badge—but then again neither was I. The old man did not provide me any dates, other
I never did. When I asked him where his badge was, than 1947, but I have since surmised that the transport
he reached into his pocket and pulled out something of the bodies to Johnson Space Center must have oc-
that was not a NASA badge. It was a security badge all curred in the 1960s.
right, but a badge that identified him as retired from The old man continued. “The bodies were the first
the Department of Energy’s Los Alamos National Labo- to be shipped, with plans for the organs to follow, but
ratory. shortly after the bodies were sent off, a low-grade,
“This gets you to the gate,” I told him, “not inside. nuclear-biological release of some sort occurred at the
How did you get into Johnson Space Center?” White Sands facility which devoured the employees—
“First things first,” the old man replied. “Do you flesh and bone—in a matter of hours. The facility has
know what the hum is?” been locked down ever since.”
I was curious. “No,” I said. ““What is it?” The man then told me how to get to this top secret
“Have you ever heard of what happened in Roswell facility at White Sands, at which point the humming
in 1947?” increased ten-fold, and I could feel my legs give way
I laughed as I threw up my right hand as if to say beneath me as I collapsed into unconsciousness.
“halt,” and told him, “I don’t believe in little green Suddenly I was aware that I was on a gurney being
men.” At that point I could again hear the faint hum- taken into my building by several men and women in
ming sound coming from my building. surgical garb. Only the emergency lighting was on in
“Believe it or not, the story about a UFO crashing near the building and these apparent medical personnel
Roswell is true,” he said calmly. “Three alien creatures each appeared to have red pupils. I saw the great safe
were taken to a desert location only 5 miles from the door in my hallway being opened to the underground
present NASA office complex at White Sands, where bunker, which, though covered by dirt, was on the
they were initially examined and kept in a perfectly same level as my office complex. Moments later, I was

Official press release: Joe Gutheinz and the past members of one of his
task force investigations at the Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center.

UFO February • March 2005 35


wheeled through another safe door which I had never safe door was just as I dreamed it!” Then also in the
seen before, and then down into a lower level of that late 1990s, I was assigned a case in White Sands, New
bunker. I heard someone talking about inserting a Mexico, correctly known as the NASA White Sands
transmitter/receiver, and again I passed out. (JSC) Test Facility. This is where NASA, often with the
The next morning, I woke up on the ground outside Department of Defense, tests flight components, rocket
my building with a couple of NASA employees attend- technology­—and yes—“hazardous materials.”
ing me. One told me that I had been unconscious and As a NASA OIG senior special agent I had the broad-
they offered to call an ambulance, but I refused help est possible access to NASA, its facilities and its con-
and drove myself to Saint John’s emergency room. I tractors. Upon finishing the case I was working on, I
have always been a rational person, so I assumed that decided to drive around the small complex, and came
I had suffered a concussion
and experienced a very vivid
dream. The doctor treated
me for a broken ankle, and I
waived getting a 72-hour “get
out of work” note. A few hours
later I was back at work, ankle
cast and all.
I recalled laughing to myself
and thinking, “it was so real.”
I had taken complaints from
people who believed the gov-
ernment had placed transmit-
ter/receivers in their brains be-
fore, and I had always assumed
they were schizophrenics.
Even today I know that many
people who believe this has
happened to them are probably Operation Lunar Eclipse: (l-r) Honduran ambassador to the U.S., Dan
are schizophrenics. But now I Goldin, NASA administrator, Joe Gutheinz, unidentified man.
know for certain that some of
them are telling the truth.
A few days later, people wearing bio-protective suits upon a blocked road reminiscent of what the old man
arrived and went through our building looking for as- had told me in my dream.
bestos, which they claimed they found in the bunker. I drove around the blockade with the intention of
For days, behind plastic sheets, men covered in protec- driving the 5 miles and disproving my dream once and
tive clothes totally cleaned out the bunker, and months for all. At about the 5-mile mark, I found myself with-
later we were told that the Russians had taken over that in a small depression, and I stopped my car and got
side of the building, using an entry door at the oppo- out. Nothing was there, and I caught myself laughing
site side from our entrance. Subsequently, others also at myself for my own foolishness. Then, like a mirage
began securing access to the bunker side, including appearing only few feet in front of me, I saw the most
students attending space camp. perfectly camouflaged building I had ever seen, even in
For years, I did not pay much attention to the goings- my days as an Army intelligence officer and aviator.
on in the bunker, although I remained curious, only I went up to the building and saw that a camouflaged
because it seemed like such an incredible waste of lock secured it. I had never seen such detail— even the
money to give the Russians, and then kids, access to lock was camouflaged! I turned around and ran back to
a maximum-security facility. Later, I realized that this my vehicle without the slightest hesitation. I excitedly
was done specifically to make the facilities’ prior use opened my trunk and removed a large wrench, then
seem harmless. ran back, breaking the lock and then prying open the
Then two things happened in the late 1990s. First door. Ten feet in front of me were two medical uni-
the OIG was given the other half of the building, and forms fully laid out on the ground, and just as the old
I was able to see the second internal safe door—the man had claimed, they were filled with dust as though
door I was taken through in my dreams—and although human beings had been devoured within them.
much of the rest of the structure had changed, the door At that point, an alarm rang out and I panicked and
was the same. “How bizarre,” I thought. “The internal ran from the building. I jumped in my car and started

36 February • March 2005 UFO


it up, immediately turning around to make a quick get- lower level. The last time I returned to the site, the Op-
away. Three camouflaged Humvees rose from over the eration Tall Timber part of Building 265 was still intact,
incline behind me. One of the three vehicles stopped at as was the upper level of what had been the bunker.
the building and the other two remained in hot pursuit As I walked to the south side of the building where
of me. All I could see of the vehicles’ occupants were the underground bunker had been located, I was star-
the nuclear/biological/chemical suits they were wear- ing at another bunker only 100 yards away—a bunker
that had always been there. I asked
myself if NASA had ever linked the
two bunkers through the underground
tunnel complex it operated at Johnson
Space Center. If so, were the alien ca-
davers still there?
I have waited 5 years to tell this sto-
ry after retiring from NASA. At night
when I try to sleep I can hear and feel
a low hum resonate in my brain, a re-
minder of what has been done to me.
Like that old man who opened my eyes
so many years ago, I have now passed
on this story of aliens and a govern-
ment cover-up to you, the reader. UFO

Joe Gutheinz is retired from NASA


Office of Inspector General (OIG), a
Senior Special Agent and a former
Special Deputy U.S. Marshal. He is
the most decorated special agent in
Aerial shot of the grounds: Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center. NASA OIG history, having earned the
NASA Exceptional Service Medal, the
President’s Council on Integrity and
Efficiency Career Achievement Award,
and numerous other awards.
ing. One of the Humvees tried to force me off the road, He teaches for both the University of Phoenix and
but my car was faster and I eagerly sped in front of Alvin Community College and holds six degrees and
him. Just then, a humming sound and vibration began eight teaching credentials. Joe is a certified fraud ex-
aminer and criminal defense attorney licensed by ten
buzzing between my ears, intensifying to the point that courts, including the federal circuits and the United
I lost consciousness. States Supreme Court. For more information, see:
When I awoke, I was back in my office in Johnson www.csmweb2.emcweb.com/2004/0617/p14s02-stss.
htm
Space Center. Two days had passed. On my desk, under
www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2004-03-01-moon-rock-
where my head had rested, were the completed reports returned_x.htm
from the investigation I had conducted at White Sands. www.space.com/missionlaunches/nasa_safety_030829.
But I had no recollection of writing those reports or of html
traveling the hundreds of miles back to Johnson Space www.texnews.com/1998/2003/texas/texas_NASA_
prop828.html
Center! As I tried to stand, my body went limp. The
www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/
muscles in my legs and hands had all but wasted away. archive/2004/06/23/national1710EDT0670.
As someone who investigates people who have bi- DTL&type=science
zarre delusions, I decided to keep to myself what had www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=2749
transpired. I assumed that the government had a worst- www.space.tbo.com/space/MGBBGZR8UVD.html
case solution, should I be perceived as a risk, an option www.news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3912829.
I probably would not like. I was set to retire in a few stm
months, and as it turned out I did not miss an oppor- www.cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Space/2004/05/21/
468174-ap.html
tunity during that interval to make fun of delusional
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7-1184490_2,00.html
complaints I received. I wanted the government, who-
www.geotimes.org/nov04/trends.html
ever was listening in, to know that I was going to play
www.collectspace.com/resources/flown_shuttletiles.
the game and remain silent. html
Shortly after I retired, NASA said that Building 265 www.collectspace.com/resources/moonrocks_moon-
had been contaminated by black mold, and they re- con.html
moved the earth covering from the building and the All photos, except page 37, courtesy Joseph Gutheinz

UFO February • March 2005 37


Ranking Russians
By Vicki Ecker rected a secret 10-year study of UFO incidents in the
Ranking officials from the Russian military and Acad- then-Soviet Union, beginning in 1980.
emy of Sciences are now contradicting statements they
formerly made on videotape regarding the astonishing George Knapp’s Journey
UFO incidents in the former Soviet Union, according The keeper of Colonel Sokolov’s original claims is
to NASA consultant and UFO debunker James Oberg award-winning broadcast journalist George Knapp of
in an article recently published at www.space.com. KLAS-TV, who in 1993 made a special trip to Russia
Oberg, considered an expert on the Russian space pro- where he spent long hours with Sokolov and other offi-
gram, is also known for his impressive efforts at belit- cials discussing their country’s UFO policies and inci-
tling other anomalous UFO occurences. dents. Colonel Sokolov and his comrades were video-
taped making statements that directly contradict what
Academy Sciences they’re allegedly saying now.
Oberg’s refutations of Colonel Sokolov’s testimony to
Knapp made a particularly big splash when he post-
ed an article on the Internet’s popular space.com site.
Broadly countering purported claims from Western me-
dia of “secret KGB files” and “captured aliens,” Oberg’s
article highlights a summary of the Soviet Union’s 13-
year study of UFO reports. The authors of the summary
are none other than Colonel Sokolov himself—and Yuli
Platov, often described as the Phil Klass of Russia. Phil
Klass, for those new to the UFO field, is the acknowl-
edged top UFO debunker in the U.S.
While this current report reasonably concludes that
In 1992, James Oberg and UFO Magazine’s Don Ecker “practically all the mass observations of UFOs were
squared off in visibly macho style on the sensitive mat- unambiguously identified as the effects accompanying
ter of UFOs in space. Their venue was none other than
CNN’s “Larry King Live,” where both men understand-
ably took advantage of some brief mass exposure on na-
tional TV to push their viewpoints on the controversial
matter of STS 48, the 1992 Space Shuttle mission that
inadvertently taped a UFO cruising over the horizon
when another unidentifiable object “shoots” at it, just
missing the first object as it made an abrupt 180-degree
turn and darted away. NASA coyly called the sequence
a “urine dump.” More discreetly, Oberg suggested to
the viewing audience that the shuttle’s camera prob-
ably recorded simple ice crystals, always visible when
sloughing off a spacecraft’s hull as it moves through
space.
Virtually anyone watching the shuttle footage has to
laugh at the above explanations. Oberg now seems to
have his sights set on some fractionally wider histori-
cal revisionism: the reversal of documented claims by
retired Colonel Boris Sokolov regarding an important
UFO incident in 1982. Colonel Sokolov is a highly George Knapp
regarded former Ministry of Defense official who di-

38 February • March 2005 UFO


Deny UFO Incidents
the launch of rockets or tests of aerospace equipment,” Knapp made two trips to Russia, in 1993 and 1996.
Knapp finds the distinguished Russians’ debunking of In his article for UFO Magazine in 1999 (see sidebar),
one major UFO incident in Russia particularly annoy- Knapp broke the UFO aspect of the silence once im-
ing, and a direct contradiction to their former claims. posed on citizens by the Soviet regime, publicizing
It concerns a 900-foot-wide object that hovered over a unprecedented information gleaned from Colonel
missile base near Khmelitskiy, Ukraine.
The “Ukrainian trigger” incident that occurred on
Oct. 5, 1982 was no mere sighting; during the UFO’s in-
trusion at the base, Soviet military personnel watched
in shock as their command consoles switched them-
selves to “prepare to launch” status for 15 seconds be-
fore returning to normal.
Witnesses in the area said their car engines suddenly
died and mysterious holes appeared in nearby build-
ing windows. The distinguished Russians now assert,
“that the fault of the operation of the command post
equipment had nothing to do with the observed phe-
nomena, it just completely accidentally coincided in
time.” The disturbing accident, they now say, was due
to a faulty indicator light, nothing more. And as to the
huge UFO, the Sokolov-Platov report just passes it over
Valery Burdakov
in favor of a far tamer explanation: The fifty eyewitness Sokolov, Colonel Valery Burdakov of the Moscow
reports gathered after the event amounted to mistaken Institute of Aviation, and General Igor Maltsev, once
observations of parachute flares or a balloon. Shades of chief of staff for Soviet Air Defenses. This apparent
Yankee UFO denials! rush of glasnost-inspired volubility was short-lived,
Official versions and the closing door began to shut off the information-
al flow even during Knapp’s 1996 visit.
According to Knapp, every single one of the fifty or “We noticed a disturbing difference in attitude among
more witnesses who filed reports with the Soviet Min- my UFO sources,” Knapp wrote of the latter trip. “We
istry of Defense were military personnel, and most of wanted to re-interview Colonel Sokolov, obviously, but
the key statements from officers. “The inference that he refused.”
not one of these officers could identify a flare or a bal- Even Knapp’s friendly liaison for the trip, Russian
loon is beyond belief,” Knapp states. physicist Nikolai Kapranov, declined to be inter-
“The written reports that I obtained, all stamped as viewed, although he first agreed to help the American
official documents, spell out in great detail the char- team. Kapranov was then working as an advisor to Bo-
acteristics of the UFOs, as seen over a 4-hour period. ris Yeltsin, who had brokered a deal with Mikhail Gor-
Some of the craft were huge. Some seemed to split bachev in 1991 to succeed the Communist leader as the
apart, some seem to merged together. Many of them days of Soviet control ended.
changed in color and intensity. Some were triangular,
some elliptical. They performed maneuvers that the
military men considered impossible for any known
Stereotyping Russians
aircraft. “What’s more,” Knapp adds, “the UFOs gener- For his part, Oberg in the early ’90s fought off the
ated demonstrable and distinct effects on machinery UFO admissions of glasnostic officials with what
and personnel. Military vehicles shook and engines Knapp suspected was a pre-emptive strike: “Oberg ar-
died as these craft zipped around in the skies over the gued that the Russians are an historically gullible and
base. The last time I checked, flares don’t do these sorts superstitious people whose ability to separate fact from
of things.” fiction could not be trusted.”

UFO February • March 2005 39


coordinate the subject. I became the head because of
vladivostok crew my military position … I could talk to anyone. No one
rejected the invitation.”
The unearthly capabilities of typical UFOs naturally
attracted Russian interest. “First, the unpredictability
of the movement of UFOs, the quick changes in course
angles,” Colonel Sokolov reported as motivating as-
pects. “Second, the velocity of the movements. Third,
we knew that UFOs observed visually could not be
seen on radar screens all the time, and those seen on
radar could not always be seen visually. … The mil-
itary thought that if the secrets of the UFO could be
discovered, we would be able to win the competition
between our prospective enemies in terms of velocity,
materials, and visibility. Stealth.”
“It is not surprising that most sightings are connected
In the recent article, he not only trusts the words of with technological activity,” Platov said. But in 1993
the two Russians who have changed their story, he he admitted that a certain number of sightings simply
frames them as tight associates who have worked to- couldn’t be explained, even stating, “The phenomena
gether on these matters for some time. Knapp says that are real. Some say jokes and hallucinations—these
when he interviewed them, “even Platov had never statements are wrong. The observers are mostly hon-
heard of Sokolov. More importantly, he had no idea of est, with few exceptions.”
what Sokolov’s 10-year program was doing.” Blithely underscoring Platov’s and Sokolov’s extreme
The colonel’s program was a special study he di- change of tune, the ironic end of Oberg’s article fails
rected in the wake of an incident near Petrozavodsk in to factor in their earlier claims: “… their evident lack
September, 1978, which Oberg said was identified as of any motivation aside from telling the truth as they
the missile launch of a spy satellite from a secret base found it, will make their report a significant contri-
nearby. Most accept that view. “But the reality within bution to our understanding of what really has been
the Russian MOD suggests something else,” Knapp happening regarding this mysterious and fascinating
says. “The top brass was only too happy to perpetu- subject.”
ate the missile-test explanation, but behind the scenes
they decided to figure out what really happened.” Russia under Putin
“(The UFO) was observed for 6 hours that night,” So- Why would these two men suddenly reverse course
kolov told Knapp. “Military men, police, emergency on what they obviously see as important—though once
crews, pilots, astronomers—all observed the phenom- secret—information? The political changes in Rus-
ena. A letter was prepared for the Military/Industrial
Commission. The contents were this—‘Surely we can’t
ignore what happened, but we can’t find the proof or
explanation, either. Joint efforts of all our scientists are
needed to solve this mystery.’ ” So, while the world was
told this incident was just a missile launch, the MOD
had actually gone into emergency mode, absolutely
unable to identify the object. “There may have been a
missile launch,” Knapp notes, “but that isn’t what the
witnesses saw. Most of the best accounts came from
military personnel who were stationed at the base and
knew very well what a missile test looked like.”

Technological Secrets
Once the special study was in place, “We were get-
ting more and more information on the subject of
anomalous phenomena,” said Colonel Sokolov in the
1993 interview. “When the attention of the military
was attracted by the problem, they came to the con- Boris Sokolov
clusion that a person from the military was needed to

40 February • March 2005 UFO


UFO files. “They forget that some KGB documents
have already been released. Sokolov’s study produced
thousands of pages of classified documents about UFO
incidents and we were successful in obtaining a sub-
stantial number of them, including those documents
that covered the most interesting cases. I’ve got them—
so do several other researchers,” Knapp said. Sokolov
further informed Knapp that every military unit in the
nation had a KGB attaché; that the more sensitive UFO
cases were taken over by the KGB, and that the files
never crossed his desk.

George Knapp
sia may explain their new attitude. Russian President
Vladimir Putin has shown what some political com-
mentators view as a harsh retreat from the democratic
reforms that rose after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Hints of Putin’s authoritarian policies solidified into
a clear pattern after the terrorist strike on a school in
the southern Russian town of Beslan, and now the for-
merly amicable relationship between himself and Pres-
ident Bush has become increasingly strained.
“I do not begrudge Colonel Sokolov for his change
of heart,” Knapp comments. “After I returned from
Russia in 1993 and publicized some of my findings,
Sokolov was attacked relentlessly by some far-right Rus-
sian newspapers. My associate, Dr. Nikolai Kapranov
… stated flatly that if Sokolov had spoken to us just
five years before, he would have been imprisoned. And
if it had happened ten years before, he would have
been shot.”
In a way, the specter of the KGB still looms over
the Russian landscape. Putin is a former agent of that
once-dreaded Soviet security force, which Sokolov
On his Russian trip, Knapp also gained access to
and Platov now flatly deny ever had any other secret
an even more impressive official, General Igor Malt-
sev, who spent 7 years as chief of staff for Soviet Air
Defenses. Maltsev confirmed for Knapp that their Air
Force had standing orders that UFOs were not to be
fired upon because “ ‘they may have tremendous ca-
pacities for retaliation,’ ” Knapp quotes. “He talked
about a mass sighting over Moscow in 1990 in which
more than a hundred sightings were reported in a
single night, confirmed on military radar, and that he
knew of no terrestrial technology that could do what
the UFOs did.”
Knapp has the final, logical word: “Oberg convenient-
ly omits this incident because he simply doesn’t have
a way to explain it away. The Russian military didn’t
igor maltsev issue this amazing order because it regarded UFOs as
hallucinations or misidentifications.” UFO

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Through the Soviet Looking Glass
MyattemptstoobtainUFOinformationfromtheRussians mostofhislifeworkingonclassifiedprojects,toldusthat
began in 1992.The sweeping and historic changes that UFOshavebeendetectedenteringthisplanet’satmosphere
weretransformingtheformerSovietUnionhadopened sincethelate’50s;theyareobjectswhosetechnicalchar-
what seemed to be a window of opportunity. American acteristicscannotbeduplicatedeventoday.Hesaidthat
journalists and social scientists had achieved success in sinceRussiansensorshaddocumentedsuchintrusions,
acquiring files on such previously inaccessible topics as thereisnoquestionthatU.S.sensorshaddonethesame.
theJFKassassinationandtheCubanmissilecrisis,sowhy Avramenkocontendedthatinformationfromtheongoing
not UFOs?The premise was to find persons who were in studyofUFOshadbeenincorporatedintohiscountry’sSDI
apositiontoknowaboutUFOs,butwhohadneverspoken program. He referred to one program as“the weapon of
publiclyonthesubject,letalonepeddledUFOtalestoWest- the aliens.”
ern journalists. Dr.ValeryBurdakov,oftheprestigiousMoscowInstitute
A chance meeting with a Russian physicist made it all ofAviation,birthplaceofSputnik,saidthatRussianinterest
possible. Dr. Nikolai Kapranov was in the U.S. as part of in UFOs dated back as far as Josef Stalin.
a congressionally sponsored lecture tour. While here, Burdakov’s mentor was Sergei Koroylov, father of the
Kapranovspoketonationallabs,thinktanksanduniversi- Russianspaceprogram.KorolyovtoldBurdakovthatStalin
ties about disarmament issues. In Russia, he had taught hadrequestedastudyoftheUFOevidenceingeneral,and
cosmonautshowtodetectAmericannuclearsubmarines theRoswellincidentinparticular.Korolyovandothersci-
fromspace,andhadservedasanationalsecurityadvisor entiststoldStalinthatUFOswerefrom“somewhereelse”
toboththeRussianparliamentandAcademyofSciences, andthathehadpersonalknowledgeofanongoingUFO
andheretainednumeroushigh-levelcontactswithinRus- study by the U.S. military but that information from the
sian military and intelligence circles. study remained secret. A ranking Russian Air Force offi-
Dr.Kapranovsaidhehadnopreviousexperience,oreven certoldustheForcecontinuestostudyUFOsinaclassified
anyinterest,inUFOinvestigations,butagreedtohelpfind programcode-named“Thread3.”Theofficer,whowasthe
thosewhomightknowmore.Hespenteightmonthstrack- coordinatorofthestudy,saidtheRussianmilitaryhadlong
ingdownthetypeofhighlyplacedpersonswehadasked agoconcludedthatUFOsrepresentedtechnologyfroman
for,checkinganddouble-checking,weedingouttheirrel- advanced civilization, possibly extraterrestrial.
evantorspecious.Thedeeperhedug,themoreamazedhe Anassortmentofleadingscientists,includingDr.YuliPla-
became.Inthespringof1993,mycolleaguesandItraveled tovoftheRussianAcademyofSciences,(aself-described
to Moscow to see what, if anything, we had, and we were “friendly skeptic”) have said that while the vast majority
not disappointed. Among those we interviewed: of UFO cases could be explained in prosaic terms, there
ColonelBorisSokolov,whotoldusthathehadbeenor- remainsacoreofmysteriousincidentswhichmightbeof
deredbytheMinistryofDefense(MoD)toheadupanun- extraterrestrial origin.
precedented,nationwidestudyofUFOs.Thestudylasteda Alongwiththeseinterviews,wesucceededinobtaining
full 10 years. Every unit in the vast Russian military had afewthousandpagesofUFOdocuments,includingsome
standingorderstofullyinvestigateandreportonanyUFO whicharestillclassified.Mostofthedocumentswerefrom
incidents. theMinistryofDefensestudyconductedunderCol.Soko-
Thousands of reports involving millions of witnesses lov; some were from the ongoing UFO study by Russia’s
werefunneledtoSokolov,including40ormoreincidents Academy of Sciences, and a few dozen were culled from
inwhichRussianwarplanesengagedUFOs.Threeofthose thestill-secret“Thread3”program.Everyexpertwhohas
planescrashedandtwopilotswerekilled.Inonedisturb- examined the documents has said they appeartobethe
ingcase,UFOsmaneuveredoveraRussiannuclearmissile genuinearticle.Tomeandtoothers,thiscollectionofau-
baseandsomehowmanipulatedlaunchcodes.Sokolovsaid thenticdocumentsandexperttestimonyrepresents“smok-
thepurposeoftheMODstudywastofigureouthowUFOs inggun”evidence.Theworld’sonlyothersuperpowercon-
performastheydo,sothatRussiacouldgainanadvantage cludedlongagothatUFOsarereal,arefrom“somewhere
in developing stealth technology. else,” and are worthy of study at the highest levels.
Dr. Rimili Avramenko, a senior engineer in the Russian George Knapp
SDI(StrategicDefenseInitiative)programwhohasspent

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SECOND ANNUAL UFO CRASH
RETRIEVAL CONFERENCE
by Skylaire Alfvegren
The best evidence for the UFO presence is hard evi- ing Memo in the National Archives, and along with a
dence: physical objects in the form of crashed extrater- number of other documents and their analysis, pub-
restrial vehicles and the government documents and lished “The MJ-12 Documents: An Analytical Report.”
cover-ups pertaining to them. The 2nd Annual UFO Tim Cooper received more anonymous documents in
Crash Retrieval Conference, recently held in Las Vegas, 1992, reportedly sent by an intelligence agent calling
Nevada, is the only event of its kind emphasizing both. himself Thomas Cantwheel. Like the first two transmis-
According to organizers Dr. Bob Wood and his son sions, a plain manila envelope with no return address
Ryan, the goal of the conference is to “clarify the UFO was received by Don Berliner in 1994. It contained a
phenomenon, its agenda and history, and to implement document entitled SOM 1-01, or the MJ-12 Operations
the most effective way to educate the public and world Manual and outlined procedures to secure and ship
governments to its reality and implications.” Their artifacts and EBEs (extraterrestrial biological entities)
website, www.majesticdocuments.com, emphasizes from recovered alien vehicles.
the importance of the famed Majestic-12 documents, In his 1996 book, Top Secret/MAJIC, Friedman said,
but the speakers assembled for this conference offered “There’s been a great deal of confusion within the ufo-
global evidence for the phenomenon and its cover-up. logical community with regard to the Operation Majes-
MJ-12, the cabal of American military personnel, sci- tic-12 documents. A major reason for this has been the
entists, and intelligence agents allegedly assembled by confused, unconventional, and often incomplete way
President Harry Truman to deal with the extraterres- in which information has been released.” Suffice it to
trial issue, is at the heart of the hard-evidence debate. say, as much time has been spent attempting to authen-
Possibly the most captivating and complex aspect of ticate details like date formats and paper stock to ward
American ufology, the group’s reality is supported by off skeptics as on a synthesis of the material itself.
three sets of anonymously released documents and the Just as MJ-12 is likely to first come to mind in terms
additional supporting evidence found by those like of a UFO paper trail, the history of crash retrievals in
uber-researcher Stanton Friedman. the U.S. is popularly tied to Roswell, New Mexico. At
MJ-12 first materialized in 1984, via the anonymous the Crash Retrieval conference, it was thoroughly dis-
arrival of documents that became known as the Eisen- sected by Paul Davids, producer of the Showtime TV
hower Briefing and the Truman Memorandum in the movie Roswell. Davids sponsored and headed the Ro-
mailbox of Jaime Shandera. He and UFO researcher swell Debris Press Conference during the 50th Roswell
William Moore uncovered the so-called Cutler-Twin- crash anniversary festivities in 1997.

Paul Kimball

UFO February • March 2005 43


in the deaths of over six hundred military personnel
National Security Policies and civilians in a 2-month period in 1947, Howe sug-
Long-time researcher Linda Moulton Howe also gested. Pulling together numerous sources, she went
devoted her time to New Mexico, using a number of on to explain that during the Truman administration,
events and locations there to illustrate the U.S. policy a protective trio of radar bases was built around Los
of denial in the interest of national security. Beginning Alamos and the Sandia base.
with the test of a V2 rocket that went fantastically awry Howe continued her New Mexico report by detailing
due to “peculiar phenomena” in May, 1947, she quoted a meeting with the ever-present specter of Air Force
former New Mexico representative Andrew Kissner’s Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI) agent Richard
investigation into the event. Doty, who showed her an alleged presidential briefing
“The ‘peculiar phenomenon’ [object] was defined paper in 1983. This episode 21 years ago is now widely
as hostile in that it appeared to have affected the V2’s known as a disinformation operation perpetrated on
trajectory ... it became an immediate priority … to the Howe by the AFOSI.
Joint Research and Development Board of the Joint “One of the pages contained a list of locations where
Chiefs of Staff chaired by Vannevar Bush. (Vannevar American military and intelligence units had retrieved
Bush is widely speculated to have headed MJ-12.) High aerial vehicles described as extraterrestrial, along with
priority was assigned to collecting a specimen of the humanoid bodies, both dead and alive,” she said. The
technology … retrieval units operated under Projects document also contained a crash-retrieval site list. “In
Moondust and Pounce. One of their classified missions addition to Roswell, other sites included Magdalena
was to aggressively bring down advanced disks for near the plains of San Agustin; Kingman, Arizona;
study.” Howe further relates that “at least two, possibly northern Mexico south of Laredo, Texas; and Aztec,
four extraterrestrial flying disks” were brought down New Mexico.”
by military fire on May 15, 1947. At the heart of Howe’s investigation is the worldwide
In an interview with Leonard Stringfield (now de- animal-mutilation phenomenon. One Kissner source,
ceased), Howe was told “We lost so many of our own purportedly a high-ranking officer at White Sands
planes that the [shoot down] order was rescinded in the Proving Grounds, told him that “government insiders
early 1950s.” Retaliation could be a contributing factor concluded at least one non-human agenda is to harvest
genetic material from animals and people.” Howe rhe-
torically asked: “Is this the horrible secret which has
provoked a policy of misinformation and denial since
at least 1947?”

International Perspectives
“If you wanted to know just how far governments
will go to keep UFOs under wraps, this is it,” said Peter
Robbins about England’s Rendlesham Forest incident.
Robbins, along with witness Larry Warren, wrote Left
at Eastgate (1997), an account of the December, 1980
siege at Suffolk’s Bentwaters-Woodbridge air bases and
the surrounding Wood.
At that time, the U.S. military maintained a nuclear
stockpile of 350,000 kilotons at the Twin Base complex,
in full violation of a then-existing treaty with the U.K.
An uprising that began in Gdansk, Poland, led by Lech
Walesa, the man who would become that country’s first
president, had Russia ready to roll with nukes on full
red alert; there was a chance Soviet paratroopers might
land that night in Suffolk to quash the Polish uprising.
Instead, the forest near the base was visited by a black
equilateral triangle. The next night, UFOs moving in
a grid pattern left triangular landing spots. The activ-
ity was capped on the fourth night, when “troops sur-
rounded a 40-foot round, self-illuminated ground fog,”
Robbins said. “Their flashlights wouldn’t even work.
Linda Moultin Howe A large machine materialized within the fog, and three

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stocky, translucent beings hovered off the ground.
There was a stand-off with the wing commander.”
Warren, stationed at the most remote post, listened
to other troops “describe the UFOs they were seeing
with nervous joking.” Witnesses were told, “We’ve
known about them before you were born,” and were
reminded, “bullets are cheap.” According to Warren,
they were chemically subdued and taken below Twin
Base for a day and a half, where memories were im-
planted through chemical means.
Warren said his ears popped going down, indicating
the great depth of the shady facility. To add further in-
trigue, a local Suffolk UFO investigator told Robbins
that the tunnels between RAF Woodbridge and Bentwa-
ters could accommodate five thousand people for up to
a year. Warren took an honorable discharge 4 months David Pace
later and wrote Left at Eastgate, which prompted the
U.K. government to release hundreds of pages of docu- interaction with non-crashed aerial objects, according
ments on the incident. to Redfern. He mentioned a 1965 document on a metal
Robbins recounted letters by people there that night, fragment recovered from an unidentified object found
including some still on active duty, corroborating the in the Congo.
events. “In the food court across from the Pentagon,” The first paragraph promises “revelations of extreme
he said, “I was told by Colonel Charles Halt, the deputy significance,” Redfern quoted, and noted that the rest of
base commander of Bentwaters at the time, that lights the report is classified. The document is from the CIA,
which adversely affected the nuclear ordnances pen- but was found in the archives of the National Security
etrated the bunkers.” Robbins also showed a video of Agency. Redfern says there is a direct link from UFO
Budd Hopkins regressing Warren, whom he said had landings and crashes to Moondust. “They claimed to
a history of abduction events. “If congressional com- be actively scanning the world’s papers, but it goes far
mittees convene again on the subject of UFOs,” Rob- beyond that,” he said.
bins said, “the Bentwaters case would be the one to
investigate.” Soviet Intel
Dr. David Pace, a Soviet-born scientist now based in
Declassified Documents Southern California, provided a dizzying and highly
Nick Redfern, author of three best-selling books on entertaining crash course in politics, rocketry history,
UFOs, presented a laundry list of documents and in- and UFO activity behind the Iron Curtain. Pace dis-
formation. “For the most part, documents are either cussed the Soviets’ history of tyranny, black ops, UFO
leaked by inside sources or by those with established studies, and experiments in reverse engineering and
links to retired military personnel,” he said. “There is remote viewing, commenting, “Parapsychology as an
an assumption that there is nothing in the public do- academic discipline was quite accepted in the former
main, but a number of intriguing documents have been Soviet Union, and in some places ufology was consid-
declassified, in North America, Russia, England, the ered a legitimate discipline, as well.”
Middle East, and Europe.” Describing Laurenti Beria, Stalin’s choice to oversee
Redfern spoke of the psychological aspects of UFO nuclear development as “J. Edgar Hoover meets Jeffrey
phenomena studied by the U.S. Air Force in the 1940s Dahmer,” Pace explained how, “in an act of interstel-
with Project Grudge and Project Moondust, the latter lar, interplanetary diplomacy,” Soviet cosmologist Ya-
an operation that was established to “locate, recover, kov Borisovich Zel’dovich “halted the Kremlin’s desire
and deliver descended foreign space vehicles.” Al- to detonate a nuclear warhead on the moon.”
though ostensibly created to study crashed Soviet sat- He described Kapustin Yar as the USSR’s Area 51
ellites, Moondust extended to UFO reports and was counterpart. It’s been used as a space center, testing
still receiving reports of crashed, non-Soviet objects in ground for Soviet missiles, and a radar tracking station
the mid-’60s. during the space race. Pace said, “Many, many crash-
The White Saucer, so named by the Air Force, was es happen here. It was an absolute thorn in Reagan’s
seen by a fighter squadron on October 18, 1960. It dis- side.” He briefly touched on actual UFO activity, in-
appeared in a downward arc, and the information on cluding the “Tsarist flap” of 1892, and a crashed craft
it was sent to Moondust personnel, which indicates discovered in Kiev during post-World War II recon-

UFO February • March 2005 45


struction. He summed up the results of one sighting take responsibility for any lack of action, or for any
by saying, “All witnesses were removed, sedated with official position they may take. There is nothing more
Haldol, and deemed ‘politically unreliable.’ ” Pace also to be done along these lines and effort in this direction
described the Soviet program analogous to MJ-12. is wasted.”
As intriguing as Smith’s story is, Cameron’s two-part
Canada’s Cases presentation focused mainly on the knowledge and in-
Making good use of multimedia, Grant Cameron volvement of U.S. presidents in the UFO issue. “The
spoke about Project Magnet, Canada’s official sau- President, as far as I’m concerned, is a key factor in
cer study headed from 1950–54 by Wilbert B. Smith. the UFO mystery. He’s the only one in the U.S. govern-
Smith made arrangements that his files would survive ment who is actually given the true information about
after his death—and they did, in startling contrast to what’s going on. He’s constitutionally responsible; he’s
the treatment of UFO documentation in the U.S. With the head of the military.”
the federal government’s approval, “Smith built a fly- The question of President Truman’s knowledge of
ing saucer observatory. They were trying to record a Roswell has always been debated and underscores the
flying saucer coming over,” said Cameron. importance of a paper trail. “If you go into the Truman
Cameron briefly mentioned Suffield in the province archive, you won’t find actual documentation,” Camer-
of Alberta, saying: “It’s basically our Area 51.” At the on stated. Cameron provided evidence that both Edwin
time, the government admitted it had this top-secret Easley, in charge of Roswell base security at the time,
base, and they actually opened it up for UFOs to land, and General Roger Ramey, responsible for the weather
he said. He also touched on the alleged craft debris that balloon cover story, briefed the President, even quot-
Smith was said to have studied during Project Magnet. ing Ramey’s wife that “they were quite friendly” with
But all good things must come to an end. “Basically Truman, although there are no documents available to
it got into the news, and they shut down the program,” support this.
Cameron said. Astoundingly, because Smith’s files are Robert B. Landry, air advisor to Truman, gave an in-
still available, Cameron has been able to document dication why this may have been so. “He briefed the
the Canadian government’s active cover-up of their president on UFOs every 3 months from February,
own UFO involvement. According to Smith: “The 1948 until the president left office in January, 1953.
only reason that those in authority have said nothing There were nineteen, twenty briefings, and they were
about [UFOs] is that they simply don’t know what to all done orally. There was no paper trail at all,” Cam-
do about it.” eron said.
Cameron mentioned a report on the Project Magnet He elaborates on his website, www.presidentialufos.
that sat on the Canadian prime minister’s desk for 3 com: “This one disclosure may explain why so little in
months. In exasperation, Smith wrote, “For your infor- the way of documentation is found in any of the presi-
mation, every nation of this planet has been officially dential libraries related to direct involvement by the
informed of the existence of the space craft and their various presidents who have been forced to deal with
occupants from elsewhere, and as nations, they must UFO phenomena. Nothing was ever written down. The
oral nature of the briefings in the early days indicates
that the authorities realized a high level of security was
necessary.”

Media Materials
Cameron offered audio and visual material on vari-
ous cases, including a sighting at the Capitol and the
Holloman Air Force Base. He provided a fascinating
and credible overview of UFO films contracted by the
government to acclimate the public, beginning with
Walt Disney in 1956, each of which was pulled before
release. Describing a project contracted under Presi-
dent Nixon which included the Holloman footage,
Cameron said, “After Blue Book shut down, there was
a definite program that started with Richard Nixon to
release materials, but surrounded by disinformation.
They put the material out, and then they pull back
Grant Cameron what you need to prove it.”
Cameron covered the Ford and Reagan eras, but be-

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lieves Jimmy Carter worked hard on the UFO situation,
saying that “the one thing they stalled him on was na-
tional security.” Many UFO documents were declas-
sified during his administration. The evidence that
Cameron presented, including an interview with the in-
triguing figure Daniel Sheehan, who worked for Carter
as an advisor on two UFO studies, leads one to believe
that Carter intended to be the disclosure president.
Cameron wrapped up with a mention of General Wes-
ley Clark, who, when asked if he’d ever been briefed on
UFOs, stated, “There are things going on, but we need
to work out our own mathematics.”

The Death Toll


The Wood themselves chose to examine individuals
within the crash-retrieval world. Dr. Bob Wood gave
a presentation on the late Leonard Stringfield, former Chuck Wade
Air Force intelligence officer and the grand poobah of
UFO crash information who coined the term UFO re- ly brought part of a crash retrieval with him. Chuck
trieval. Stringfield, who died in 1994, published two Wade, whose father owned a bar in Corona at the
books and seven Status Reports on his findings. time of the Roswell/Corona crash, said he was “on
Co-organizer Ryan Wood presented an almost surre- a quest to find out what his father didn’t see on the
ally scientific “death probability index” of deceased Foster ranch.”
UFO researchers, complete with an Excel spreadsheet A retired general contractor, Wade built A-frames for
and the assistance of remote viewer Joe McMoneagle. the test site at San Agustin. After reading The Day After
Former CIA director Bill Colby, said to be sympathetic Roswell by the late Colonel Philip J. Corso, he assembled
to UFO issues, was asked to resign, then disappeared a team and went to retrieve crash debris, finding alu-
while boating. His body was found a week later. minum-like samples which he had analyzed by a local
Wood sarcastically noted the official cause of death: university. After sharing the university’s findings with
“I think he got up in the middle of the night, went into the audience, Wade hosted the only show-and-tell por-
the canoe in his pajamas, had a heart attack, and fell in tion of the conference, having brought the samples
the water and drowned.” John Philip Murphy, the first with him in plastic baggies. As Stanton Friedman re-
reporter on the scene of the Keckburg, Pennsylvania marked: “You’ve got to dig; you just can’t research by
crash, “was supposedly crossing a four-lane highway proclamation.” UFO
in Ventura when he was hit by a Volkswagen bus going
55 miles an hour.” The 251-page 2nd Annual UFO Crash Retrieval Confer-
Wood’s use of McMoneagle resulted in some interest- ence Proceedings (2004) includes articles and presenta-
tion materials by Jim Marrs, Paul Davids, Don Ledger, Paul
ing insights. Researcher James McDonald, a friend of Dr. Kimball, Dr. Bob Wood, Ryan Wood, Linda Moulton Howe,
Wood’s, told him a week before his first suicide attempt: “I Nick Redfern, Ron Regehr, Grant Cameron, Peter Robbins,
found out what’s behind it.” He “succeeded” a few months and others. It can be ordered from www.majesticdocu-
ments.com for $35, plus shipping.
later. The remote-viewing interpretation? “He was pushed
Linda Moulton Howe’s complete presentation is available
methodically to the brink of self-obliteration by systemati- on her website www.earthfiles.com ($26 subscription).
cally manipulating his social infrastructure.” Dr. David Pace’s lecture is available at
Another interesting case Wood asked McMoneagle to www.lostartsmedia.com for $19.95.
investigate was that of U.K. defense contractor John Ferry, Grant Cameron’s website is www.presidentialufos.com
an Army brigadier general who managed to electrocute
himself. The remote viewer’s answer was that he was Crash Debris!
working on an “instantaneous, transverse-complex, cross-
universe communications transmission system.” For Joe
to come up with this answer is really weird, Wood said.
It’s fantastic; it’s never been in the literature.”
The odds on each of the eleven deaths he inves-
tigated, Wood said, “are greater than one in five
thousand.” Though everyone presented thorough
evidence of UFO crashes, only one speaker actual-

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INTERVIEW WITH RYAN WOOD, SPONSOR OF
by Paul Davids
Ryan Wood and his father, Dr. Robert Wood, are at the conferences and not seeing the types of things I wanted
forefront of research into the history of UFO crash re- to see. And so I figured I’m just going to go do this, and
trievals. As two of the most credible individuals in the I wanted to focus in on parts, and bodies, and military
UFO field, Ryan and Bob Wood offer a disciplined ap- involvement and witnesses—a more investigative jour-
proach to the effort of unearthing any and all available nalist approach to it with hard checkable facts and de-
evidence that sheds light on the question of whether tails, whereas other efforts in the UFO field are difficult
advanced alien technology has been secretly recovered to advance or investigate, and that’s why I really chose
and studied by the United States government. crash retrievals. There’s a tremendously large wealth of
Just how Ryan views the evidence—and how he sup- data to investigate.
ports those views—is a question of importance to the
Davids: What is it about your background that made
UFO field, given the effort at precision, discipline,
you interested in UFO parts and hardware?
and scientific procedure to which he and his father, a
Wood: My interest stems from growing up as the son
noted aerospace engineer and physicist, have commit-
of a physicist, so it was very much real-world based—
ted themselves.
how does the world work? I would
A popular website (www.majes-
rebuild car engines in high school,
ticdocuments.com) managed by the
I liked mechanical engineering;
Wood presents a massive number
my father was an aerospace engi-
of documents that have surfaced
neer [and there were] the rockets
in the last two decades which tell
and the space program, and the ex-
a story of secret programs, includ-
citement of his friends and where
ing MAJIC and MJ-12, which may
we lived. At the time I lived in
have been established to manage
Pacific Palisades, south of Malibu.
and advance top-secret UFO re-
Southern California is the center
search as well as public opinion
of aerospace research. Later on we
on the subject of alien life.
moved further south, to Newport
Some of these are original docu-
Beach.
ments that may date back many
decades. Since the documents sur- Davids: Your educational back-
faced without any obvious chain ground?
of title or provenance, the Wood Wood: I have a degree in mathe-
have devoted themselves to trying matics and computer science from
to answer the difficult questions Ryan Wood addresses Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. I gradu-
about which of the documents, the conference ... ated in 1978 and went into work-
and which of the reported UFO ing at Intel Corporation at the very
crash retrieval cases, may be authentic. young time when the 8080 microprocessor had just
Ryan had just completed sponsoring the Second An- started off and the 8086 microprocessor had just come
nual UFO Crash Retrieval Conference at the Sunset on. [It was] the early history, to be with Gordon Moore
Station Hotel in Henderson, Nevada, near Las Vegas. and Andy Grove and the very young embryonic world
At the close of the conference I sat down with him of Silicon Valley at that time and watch it grow. And
over breakfast before our departures, and he agreed to then I moved to Massachusetts and worked for Digital
answer questions about his background, motivations, Equipment Corporation in computer systems and did
and accomplishments in the UFO research field. My a lot of work there, and then back to California where
marching orders from UFO Magazine were to ask the I was a sales executive for digital equipment, and then
tough questions, and I tried my best to do so. I there- went to a couple of silicon valley startups. I worked in
fore present the unabridged interview in this article. supercomputers and document imaging before starting
my current career which is in commercial energy con-
servation equipment.
Davids: Of all the different types of conferences you
could have chosen to sponsor, why UFO crash retrievals? Davids: A lot of people would say it seems like a
Wood: The reason I chose the crash retrieval genre, so really improbable interest for an aerospace physicist
to speak, is that I was personally frustrated in going to and his son, a computer expert, to grasp onto UFOs, a

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THE UFO CRASH RETRIEVAL CONFERENCE
field that has been belittled and besmirched and ridi- film, postmarked Lacrosse, Wisconsin. And from that
culed by the scientific community since even before we began to blow it up and try to analyze and retype
the Condon Committee Report of the 1960s. Why? Why everything and begin to validate that manual.
risk it? And then about 4 years later, the Tim Cooper trove
Wood: At times I ask myself that same question: Why of documents came, beginning in 1998. The Majestic
risk it? And I really don’t have a firm answer except documents are a group of documents spread out over
that I’ve always been very self-confident, with an at- 20-plus years, from multiple different stories. And
titude of “I don’t care; I like the debate.” It’s something they’re of varying quality. Some are unexposed film.
that I grew up around and was comfortable with and Some are photocopies. Some are actually original on-
familiar with, with Stanton Friedman coming over for ionskin documents where you can test age and ink and
dinner when I was fifteen. And I’m now nearly fifty. watermark and other things. The original sources are
all obscured, but not completely.
Davids: So your dad and Stan Friedman have a long-
It’s really the content of the documents and the story
standing personal relationship, professional relationship?
they tell that excites me the most. But you have to look
Wood: It started as a professional relationship be-
at the original documents, and there are two strong
cause Stanton worked for my father for 3 or 4 months
ones. There’s the Bowen manuscript, which is an ency-
before the money that was set aside for his research
clopedia of flying saucers written by Vernon Bowen in
project was canceled, and he couldn’t do any more ad-
the 1955–1957 time frame, and there’s a whole chapter
vanced research in the area and Stan and most other
stamped TOP SECRET MAJIC that’s all about the Air
people were let go.
Force. They were embarrassed about what he was go-
Davids: Did Stanton Friedman play a role in getting ing to say, and so they classified that chapter, and ev-
your dad interested in UFOs, or was your dad inter- erything else is confidential. You can do paper and ink
ested before Stanton came along? testing and it all turns out to be authentic.
Wood: Oh, my dad was interested before Stanton came
along, and Stan was hired because he was ahead of the Davids: Is it fair to say that there would be nothing in
curve in looking at this and studying it from a physics his manuscript, though, that would be very far outside
point of view. The reports were “light in the sky disap- the public domain of what we know about flying sau-
pears over the horizon in 2 seconds, how many Gs is cers? As opposed to crash recovery?
that? What are the curves that describe what’s happen- Wood: That’s a fair statement. It’s an early history­—
ing? Polarizing lenses people are wearing … they see 1945 to 1955—of public reports, and some sleuthing
interference fringes in the lenses … how many gauss is around and connecting the dots. It’s not that embar-
the UFO emitting at what range to understand the mag- rassing today.
netic field dimensions of the craft? Very much like the
Davids: The Einstein-Oppenheimer document: Was
work Paul Hill did in his book, Unconventional Flying
Objects … technical work.

Davids: What is it that led you and your dad to first


have the concept that one or more extraterrestrial UFOs
may have crashed, and that the government might have
the debris and was refusing to tell us about it?
Wood: What really accelerated our working together
and interest was the Special Operations Manual that
came along in 1994.
Davids: It didn’t start with the original MJ-12 papers?
Wood: No, I did read them, and I read Stanton’s fi-
nal report on MJ-12 and I did have some interest there.
But it really got going when we got the undeveloped
film and we started to blow it up to look at the Spe-
cial Operations Manual in 1994. My father got it from
Conference attendees examine
Don Berliner who got it in the mail as undeveloped
crash debris ...

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that a photo negative or a Xerox? How did you receive said “This is rotten psychological warfare work. You
that? want to tell people the truth, and tell people the truth,
Wood: The Einstein-Oppenheimer document is just a and tell people the truth, and then slip in a lie. You
photocopy. But what’s interesting about it—it’s only a tell them the truth and shift the dynamic a little bit in
five-page document allegedly written by Einstein and a strategic and important way for your objective—psy-
Oppenheimer, but our study of it shows that it was re- chological warfare has to have a clear objective and
ally written by Einstein, because it used unique words you have to deliver it in a credible way.
like “supernational” that were used in the period by Right now most people discount the Einstein-Oppen-
Einstein in his own writings found at the Princeton ar- heimer document because it’s not very interesting—it
chives. And Latin and German words are in there, and doesn’t talk about much in the way of exotic technolo-
even his sort of laconic style of punctuation and phras- gy. It mentions an EBE in June of 1947. But most of the
es is a close fit to his original known authentic works. document is a lot of intellectual thinking about how
Now to really vet that document fully, we use some- does the world react to the presence of aliens, how
thing called forensic linguistics, and there are only a do world governments react, is it the right of aliens to
few experts on this. There’s only one journal in the come here and settle, what would we do if they did
world that deals with forensic linguistics, but you can choose to come and settle here? It’s a think-piece rath-
fingerprint this document er than a white hot report
very well, down to subtle- which is, “Yeah, we found
ties of word usage, comma the wreckage in Roswell,
usage, phrase usage, and we analyzed it, here’s the
style and compare that with engine, here’s the political
Einstein’s original writings. implications.” Much more
Davids: I want to ask you of a military style.
some hard questions. My Davids: There’s noth-
first book was called The ing in the Einstein-Op-
Fires of Pele: Mark Twain’s penheimer document that
Legendary Lost Journal. My talks about UFO crash
wife and I wrote it deliber- recovery, is there?
ately in Mark Twain’s style. Wood: Yes, there is, but
Our objective was to make it’s not in direct phrasing. It
it sound as though it was talks about extraterrestrial
written by Mark Twain. biological entities—EBEs;
When it was reviewed it’s the first known use of
by a Midwestern literary the term. This is June of
journal, the editor thought 1947, not July. So it implies
it actually was a lost work Army personnel meet with
Albert Einstein ... that there were crashes be-
by Mark Twain because fore Roswell.
we had copied his diction;
we had found his favorite phrases. It was a deliberate Davids: Was this before the Kenneth Arnold sight-
effort. What makes you confident that this Einstein ing, the date of that paper?
document isn’t a deliberate effort by someone else in Wood: It just says June. It doesn’t have a specific date.
the same manner as what we did in our Mark Twain I don’t know when Kenneth Arnold’s sighting was.
book?
Wood: Well, it could be. But I think it’s remote be- Davids: It was June 24th, 1947, and it’s unlikely Ein-
cause it has flaws in it. If you’re going to fake some- stein would have written this paper in one week.
thing, the faker wants to make it perfect and say, “I Wood: Yeah, exactly.
have a tremendous ego and I’m very skilled at this.” Davids: So why would someone have gone to Ein-
And then it goes into a grayer area of what is the mo- stein to do an analysis like this before we even had
tivation for faking some of the Majestic documents or the Kenneth Arnold sighting at that time of 1947?
confusing them? It could be simply to discredit them Wood: There must have been some activity before
after the fact. then that triggered this sort of analysis.
However, when I interviewed some of the experts in
psychological operations that work at the John F. Ken- Davids: Linda Moulton Howe has speculated what
nedy special warfare school in Fort Bragg in North that activity might have been, hasn’t she, in her pre-
Carolina, they looked at many of the documents and sentation at this conference? That it might have gone

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back to May of 1947 and the V2 rocket test which was and government, and to some extent technology. You’d
reported in the papers to have been brought down by have to be extremely talented at doing this. And how
some sort of anomalous phenomenon. are you going to recreate original documents? If these
Wood: I would go back even further. There are four or were faked, I think it would have to be the CIA or KGB.
five documents we have now that are all pre-Ros­well. I wouldn’t put it past them.
We have one that mentions the Cape Girardeau crash Davids: A faker would have had to have access to
event. We have mentions that at the time of the Los some of the original documents, such as the textbook
Angeles air raid of 1942, two craft came down, one in manuscript on UFOs you mentioned, right? And he
the San Bernardino mountains, and one that crashed in presumably would have put a TOP SECRET MAJIC
water that the Navy recovered. stamp on the actual original?
Davids: There may have been previous UFO activity Wood: Yes, as well as the original manuscript which
and even previous UFO crashes, but still it’s a coinci- is a sort of ten pages of directives from Alan Dulles to
dence that the Einstein-Oppenheimer paper is dated the other MJ-12 members as to how to deal with the
the same month as the Kenneth Arnold sighting, when MJ-12 program. The original manuscript was burned as
he couldn’t have possibly written it during that last though it had been pulled out of a fire. That’s the odd
week of June 1947, right? part. The source that leaked it to us wrote a cover letter
Wood: Well, who knows what Einstein’s schedule stating: “I snatched these out of a fire. I was responsible
was like around the time of the Kenneth Arnold sight- for clearing out the safe of James Jesus Angleton, and
ing, and whether or not there won’t be any more
he even paid attention to Paul Davids displays originals like this.” There
that sighting. My impres- Hollywood debris ... are burn holes in some of
sion is—and I haven’t the pages.
studied all his papers at Davids: But the lone
the Princeton Library— nut could have done
but the paper itself seems that as part of his sce-
to be broken up into five nario too.
parts, in which he’s an- Wood: Yeah, but when
swering specific ques- you see and study the
tions such as: What do we documents themselves
do if they come here and and start to check things
try to settle? How will the at the National Archives
international community … when you get an
react to their presence? original manuscript and
He goes through some of there’s a reference to
the issues of disclosure today, but back in 1947. someone named Tucker and it has his phone number
Davids: Let me ask you another hard question. and address and it’s in the right format—and you go
When the first MJ-12 document came out, critic/skep- to the aero-medical library and find the other papers
tic Philip Klass, when he saw the name of Donald he’s written and it’s in exactly the same format, exactly
Menzel on the list of MJ-12 members, said “This is ob- the same material. It’s different content but … the bar
viously an act of revenge by a ufologist who is trying is very high for a lone faker. I would say the chance is
to pay us back for dismissing ufology—he had the gall well under one percent.
to put the name of one of the major critics of UFOs on Davids: When you look at some of the other hoaxes of
a list of names of people who supposedly knew UFOs history and you say, okay, there were the Hitler diaries,
were real who were keeping the secret.” What’s to say, there was the biography of Howard Hughes. These fell
as we look for a motive, that all of these documents apart pretty quickly, didn’t they? The Hitler diaries
aren’t a sort of act of revenge by a well-educated fooled a major German magazine for a week or two
ufologist who is having his digs, as opposed to being and they put down a lot of money for them, but then it
psychological warfare work? Can you rule that out? all fell apart rather fast. Just like in the recent presi-
Wood: The idea that a lone, well-educated nut would dential election, the supposed National Guard papers
do this … it’s possible for one or two documents … relating to George Bush that gave Dan Rather egg on
but the breadth of the documents and the interweav- his face: It fell apart rather quickly. But your argument
ing nature of them, and the obscure checkable facts in is that you’ve been dealing with these UFO documents
many of them … you’d need to be a genius and have a long time, and they have not fallen apart. No one has
a credible breadth of knowledge in military history done a satisfactory job of tearing them apart, correct?

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Wood: We get anachronisms in some of the docu- Davids: But the new ones, these five thousand pages.
ments that are still unresolved. What we did is to cre- That’s a lot of pages.
ate a sort of authenticity meter for each document. Wood: That came from Tim Cooper. Now, Tim says
You ultimately can look at the authenticity issues of it was mailed from Fort Meade and he supplied the
every sentence from a content point of view. And just envelope that it came in with the postmark. And you
because you might have an anachronism such as “This say, “Why would Tim lie about it?” So let’s take it at
font isn’t correct at the time—” face value that it really did come from Fort Meade
in that particular envelope. In one particular mailing
Davids: Why isn’t that enough to discredit it? Or an
from a CIA post meter, it turned out that the meter had
anachronistic word that’s out of its time in history—
expired, but the post office people were able to trace
why isn’t that enough to discredit it?
it and establish that the meter was at the CIA and is
Wood: An anachronistic word may not be out of its
now no longer used. And it had just been turned off 3
time, and that’s what you have to check. You have to do
months before or something like that.
a reasonable job of exploring whether what you think
is an anachronistic word or term might have been used Davids: Tim Cooper said that his father had a back-
at that time in history. Most of the debunkers haven’t ground in UFO research for the government and that’s
really checked it thoroughly. After I’ve been to the Na- why he was selected to release these. Is that correct?
tional Archives several times and have looked up simi- Wood: His father, Harry B. Cooper, clearly worked in
lar documents and feel the National Photographic
comfortable that I’ve Wilbert Smith’s UFO observatory ... Interpretation Center and
looked hard and well in New Mexico in photo-
to try to find something graphic printing. He had
that could explain this to print these documents.
problem, and I can’t He traveled in a circle of
do it—but we’ve never friends where they were
had that yet. If that hap- also involved in this and
pened, I’d be the first involved socially. Tim was
person to say, “Yeah, I young at the time. People
can’t explain that.” in this group may have
There are still some remembered him or liked
anachronisms we’re him. And it may have been
trying to deal with. triggered by Tim writing
Stanton Friedman has FOIA requests in the right
brought up the theory types of areas. My personal
that some of the docu- opinion is that it was the
ments are emulations. retired declassifiers who
He’s talking about six or knew Harry Cooper who
seven one-page documents where it seems that there may have remembered Tim, who decided we should
could be problems with handwriting, perhaps lifted leak this and put it out, and they used Tim Cooper to
signatures from other sources. But you don’t really do it. That’s my belief.
know.
Davids: Of all the information that’s out there, what
Davids: What percentage of the Tim Cooper docu- do you think is the closest we have to a smoking gun
ments have these problems or may be tainted by of an ET saucer being in government hands?
emulation? Are we talking about 50 percent of the Wood: The only thing that approximates a smoking
documents or fewer? gun is the breadth, the complete details of all these var-
Wood: Oh no, much less. On a number of documents ious documents, and the stories and witnesses around
count, probably 2 percent. On a page count, .01 per- Roswell, the stories and witnesses I’ve researched
cent. We have about four to five thousand pages of doc- around Cape Girardeau, which is an obscure thing,
uments with varying classifications, from unclassified something you’ve got to dig to find. And the stories
to highly classified. around the Kecksburg and Bentwaters UFO landing
Davids: Did this all come from Tim Cooper? and the other major events. It’s the totality that con-
Wood: Oh, no. Not all of them. We have the Don vinces me. Now there are little points, things you can
Berliner material, the Special Operations Manual. We point to and try to say, “Oh, that’s it.” But you get into
have the Bill Moore/Jaime Shandera MJ-12 documents trouble if you try to latch onto one thing. It could be
that came as negative film. dashed, and then your paradigm fails.

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Davids: You’ve had two UFO Crash Retrieval confer- ally in the crash sites, the hardware, the technology.
ences so far, and they’ve both had published proceed- The great crime of the government is that they think
ings. Do you feel that one of the best ways for some- that a hundred cloistered scientists, brilliant as they
one to get the breadth of the whole issue is to get hold may be, can adequately understand and advance this
of and read both of those proceedings papers, or are incredible enigma. That’s just scientific hubris.
there other things you’d suggest? They need to apply in a controlled manner the full
Wood: I would certainly read the two crash retrieval weight of a million to ten million scientists and engi-
proceedings already published, but there’s other books. neers around the world on the alien biology, the mate-
There’s the Majestic documents themselves, most of rials. Imagine how the world would be different if in
which are published at www.majesticdocuments.com. 1960 they had hauled out an alien cadaver and put it
The website has 95 percent of them. on a table and said, “This came from outer space.”
There’s a few I haven’t posted yet, usually ones that There would be hundreds or thousands of PhDs in
are less interesting, but we’re working on those. In some exobiology who could have potentially solved cancer
cases it’s as though someone cleaned out their file cabi- and developed and advanced vastly our understanding
net and gave you both very interesting stuff and some of our own biology and intelligent life in another way,
junky stuff, and some of given almost 50 years to
the more so-called junky have worked at it.
stuff hasn’t been posted That’s the crime. If
yet. That stuff is not nec- they expose the materi-
essarily directly on point. als—the proof—you can
I fully intend to do advance the world and
the third UFO Crash Re- make progress in society
trieval Conference in much faster.
Las Vegas this year with
Davids: What do you
more of a focus on hard-
think the chances are
ware points and looking
that they really don’t
at more crash retrievals,
have the proof of ETs
more understanding of
and never have had
the Majestic documents,
the proof, but that they
analysis of metal frag-
have created a grandiose
ments, which we also
myth that they do and
did in 2003.
have denied their own
I want to do a review of
myth just to arouse more
several alleged UFO met-
interest in the idea?
al fragments and have
Wood: The chances
the metallurgists give us
that this is all a hoax
a better understanding of
or manipulation or that
whether this constitutes
the government really
proof.
doesn’t have anything—I
Davids: If you were to can’t fathom it. It’s a very,
hazard a guess—you say very low probability.
you’re almost fifty—how Wilbert Smith makes a One chance in a mil-
old do you think you’ll calculated decision ... lion. UFO
be when the government
“comes clean?”
Paul Davids is the executive producer and co-writer
Wood: Well, I’ve asked that question before. Actually of the film Roswell, starring Kyle MacLachlan and
Joe McMoneagle, a psychic widely known for his work Martin Sheen. He has produced numerous UFO
in remote viewing, was asked that question and his an- documentaries and has written many articles for UFO
Magazine.
swer as to when they tell the truth is the year 2075. So
I’m personally pessimistic. In 2004, Paul Davids was a speaker at the MUFON
International UFO Symposium, the National UFO
Davids: We won’t be there. Conference, and the UFO Crash Retrieval Conference.
Wood: We won’t be there. My children might be there. His website is www.pauldavids.com
But that does not mean we can’t change the future and Photo page 51 courtesy Paul David; remaining photos
agitate towards that end. My passionate interest is re- courtesy Tim Cridland.

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“Alien Autopsy:
Fact or Fiction?”
10 Years After PART 1: Fox-TV’S FIRST TASTE OF REALITY
By Don Ecker
August 28, 1995. Fox Television airs a ratings-grab- me that Fox Television had expressed interest in this
bing phenomena special, and it can be argued that alleged military footage and that they might be working
with that program, the feisty network launched the on a special. I told this researcher that I had a working
new breed of reality TV. The premise? Back in 1947, a relationship with several producers at Fox and would
UFO crashed—probably near Roswell, New Mexico— check on this information. I called Robert Kiviat, with
and the military recovered and ultimately dissected an whom I had worked on several UFO episodes on Fox’s
alien body. And we have the film, ladies and gentle- program Encounters, and he said he would check on it.
men, as shot by a military cameraman! Kiviat talked with others, saw the value of the footage,
Now, after 10 years, Robert Kiviat, the producer who and the rest, as they say, is history. Initially Fox, through
brought “Alien Autopsy: Fact or Fiction?” to the Fox its “Alien Autopsy” host Jonathan Frakes, promised
Network, is releasing the whole story. What he learned that if any further information were to be found to ei-
answers the final question—is this story fact or fiction? ther prove or disprove the film, the network would air
At this moment in time, Kiviat argues, it is fiction … that information and keep the public informed. Fox
and he can prove it. stretched the alien
autopsy story into
Backstory three specials, each
Vicki Ecker and I were invited to speak at the First time doling out a
World UFO Congress in Vienna, Austria, in November little more footage
1993. While there, we met and became friends with and insisting that
John and Anne Spencer, Philip and Sue Mantle, and viewers make up
Jenny Randles. Near the end of the conference I was their own minds.
having coffee with Phil Mantle one morning when he Producer Bob
relayed to me a fantastic story concerning the Roswell Kiviat says that he
crash and a film of an actual autopsy of an alien being. can definitively an-
There were many rumors and famous names associ- swer the question
ated with this mysterious film, including director Ste- of whether the film
ven Spielberg. As the story was then circulating, Spiel- is fact or fiction,
berg was alleged to have some actual footage shot by a but Fox, through
military cameraman during the recovery and autopsy its special projects
of an alien being, and Spielberg would be including it executive Mike Dar-
in a new film called Project X. nell, has declined
Several weeks after returning from Europe, I received to discuss the pro-
a telephone call from a researcher in the U.K. who told gram. According to

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Kiviat, both CARAT Media Conglomerate and Darnell diaries hoax. The question evolved to: Where would I
have credited the “Alien Autopsy—Fact or Fiction” bring this story if it were a hoax? The most logical place
program as the starting gate for Fox’s reality-show pro- would have been the Murdoch News Group or the Fox
gramming. According to Kiviat, Darnell has stated that Network. Murdoch has a history of being involved in
the alien autopsy franchise was responsible for launch- these amazing stories. He helped to first bring those
ing his career. hoaxed documents to the public, and, after finding out
they were frauds, brought that to the public.
The Fox Brushoff Ecker: Whom did you take this to?
When I attempted to contact Darnell, my call was
Kiviat: My manager called Bob Bain [Head of Fox
passed to Scott Grogin, vice president of corporate
Special Projects] early in 1994 because we had tried
communications at Fox. Calls to Darnell, and later his
to get Fox interested in an idea I had for a show called
associate Tom Sheets, were repeatedly diverted to Gro-
Supernatural Eye. Bain asked me if I would be willing
gin, whose apparent irritation increased with each call.
When asked about the alien autopsy shows,
he said they were “reasonably successful,”
but that Fox had no plans “at this time” to
do another show.
I reminded Grogin that Fox promised they
would release any new information they
discovered. The three specials garnered
huge ratings. I further reminded Grogin that
the special was more than reasonably suc-
cessful, and he denied he ever said that they
were “reasonably successful.” Later, Darnell
green-lighted other Fox specials, including
“When Animals Attack,” and of course the
unforgettable special episode of “Guinness
World Records: Primetime” showing the re-
moval of a 300-pound tumor.
In sum, Grogin said that if UFO Magazine to join a series of specials they had called Encounters;
wanted a quote from the network, it was simply that he asked me if I could bring in all my information to
“Fox has no plans to air another show on the alien au- Fox for Encounters and make the show credible.
topsy.” He declined to discuss the matter further. The big premiere episode would be called “Alien Au-
In the following interview, producer Bob Kiviat gives topsy.” I told him the material in general would be just
us the inside look at this highly touted and controver- like the 60 Minutes of supernatural phenomena. If we
sial film and the TV programs it spawned. discovered fraud, we would skewer it and this would
Ecker: Bob, So here we are 10 years after the first be a ratings pleaser. Fox sent me to the company that
airing of “Alien Autopsy: Fact or Fiction.” What is was doing Encounters, where I became coordinating
your bottom line? producer.
Kiviat: If you speak to Mike Darnell during the course So, by Episode 12 or maybe 13, Fox is talking about
of this investigation, you have to ask him why, with canceling Encounters. About December of 1994 I kept
his crediting the “Alien Autopsy,” and CARAT Media, pushing my idea of the Supernatural Eye. This is the
both in many ways state that Fox reality [programming] same time that I heard the rumor that Steven Spiel-
owes its presence today to the airing of “Alien Autop- berg was working on a film called Project X, and that
sy.” Then the question becomes, “Why wouldn’t Fox he is supposed to have footage of aliens recovered at
want to bring this story to a conclusion?” If I’ve finally Roswell. I tried to find out if this was real, and called
solved the case, then why wouldn’t Fox want to bring everyone I knew but couldn’t verify it.
this to the country and the world? The alien autopsy is The only thing that looked like it might be tantalizing
in the category of the Hitler diaries, the Howard Hughes was the story I heard that Reg Presley, a former musi-
biography hoax, and the Piltdown Man hoax. cian with the British rock band The Troggs, who also
was a UFO researcher, had told some people that he
Ecker: What was the main reason you produced the saw this film that was rumored to be going into a Ste-
alien autopsy show? ven Spielberg production … and that it was real. I got
Kiviat: I realized that if this was a fraud, it was on a telephone call telling me that Reg Presley had gone
the level of the Hughes biography hoax or the Hitler

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on a morning television show in England and told the As to the cameraman, according to Santilli he was
stunned interviewers that “You’re going to be hearing an 80-year-old guy living in Florida. I asked why the
about a film and it’s going to show this [aliens]. Presley film wasn’t processed fully and he told me that some
also mentioned the name Ray Santilli in connection of the film was brittle, cracked, and so forth. I asked
with the film. Then I got a call from Omni telling me what could be seen and he described this dark scene
to check out their new issue— that Spielberg’s people [later identified as the “tent footage”] with a flickering
were denying this rumor completely, that there’s noth- lantern and someone who looks like he’s pulling some-
ing to the rumor. thing off a body. I asked him what else he “thought”
Now I know that there is a name connected with the was in the film—the film not yet processed. He said
alleged footage—Ray Santilli. Presley had also men- that the cameraman told us that [President Harry] Tru-
tioned that there were reels of film containing images man was walking around, clearly visible, and also the
of three alien creatures, along with footage showing a debris field of the metal from the crashed flying saucer.
crashed saucer plus a debris field. Presley also said the [This was approximately March, 1995.]
alien he saw “looked longer” than the aliens described
Ecker: Okay, so now that Santilli has whetted your
by Roswell witnesses.
appetite, what did you do?
I went and told Encounters Executive Producer Paul
Kiviat: I told him that I would set up meetings at
Hall what was going on, and he told me, “Bob, it’s all
all the networks, and asked, “When do you want to
yours! It sounds fascinating.” A number of articles
come?” Santilli had said he would have to accompany
[about the alien autopsy] began coming out of England.
the footage, since he would never send it alone. So we
It was implied that Fox had shown interest in this story,
settled on a date in April.
but neither Bob Bain nor I knew anything about this.
A few days before the meeting date with Fox, I find
No one at Fox in the U.S. knew anything about it.
out that Bob Bain has someone working with him,
I called up Ray Santilli and told him that Fox knew
maybe a junior executive under Bob. His name was
nothing about this material, and he agreed. Santilli
Mike Darnell. I had met Mike Darnell once very briefly
said he had no idea how the press got that wrong. I
during the host wrap party for Encounters. This was
said, “Ray, how did the press get it wrong about Steven
the only time I had met him. Darnell became my con-
Spielberg being involved?” Santilli shrugged it off. He
tact with Fox for the alien autopsy.
went on to say that he did not have all the reels of film
At the last minute, Santilli contacted me and canceled
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the meetings because “something came up.” According said that they were not sure they would have footage
to Santilli, there was a problem with the film process- with Truman. There were problems with the process-
ing. He then informed me that he was going to set a ma- ing. I asked if there was any other footage and he said
jor London screening in “a few weeks.” He went on to yes, the debris footage. Okay, lets see that.
say he was inviting all the press from around the world The first thing I see is a guy’s legs up to the waist;
for the screening at the Museum of London. I told him it looks like he is wearing military khakis. He is han-
that it sounded as if he were setting up an
auction, which he denied.
He promised me that I would have “ev-
ery opportunity” to make a deal with him
for North America. I asked if he planned on
making the footage available to more than
North America, and he said he had hired
a sales agent to handle all this. I told him
to have his agent call me so we could work
out arrangements. I got a call from this nice-
sounding guy who tells me I will get first
crack at securing rights for North America,
but that they already had a deal worked out
with TF-1 in France. I informed him I was
somewhat leery about this, considering no
one had yet seen the film, but he told me to
come to England on May 5 and all my ques-
tions would be answered!
May 5 comes and I go to a hotel in Lon-
don where I’m supposed to wait for Ray
Santilli. I go down to the bar and have a
drink, and Santilli and a couple of his as-
sociates come in. They start questioning me
about my background. They had seen some
of my work, knew that I wrote for Omni
Magazine, and that I knew people at NASA.
They knew I came to London on my own
nickel, that I paid my own way, and they
said they were impressed.
We go back to Ray’s office and I am ex-
pecting to see this dark scene, and lo and
behold, the alien autopsy we now all know
about starts running on the screen. This ran
for about 10 minutes, and Ray stopped it.
He asked if I wanted him to run it again and I said yes. dling what looks like fat, thick I-beams with some kind
He told me the cameraman claimed to have filmed this of hieroglyphics embossed on them. However, this did
in Fort Worth, Texas. not look anything like what Jesse Marcel, Jr. described
I asked about the other footage we had discussed be- [from the Roswell debris].
fore [the tent footage], and did he have it? He said yes The camera panned over to a table with metallic de-
and then ran it. After it was over, I told him it didn’t bris on it, including these weird metallic rectangles
look like it even came from the same time. It was dark, with six-finger hand impressions. I asked Ray what
in black and white, but like a muddy black and white. they were, and he said the cameraman said these were
Santilli said the cameraman told him that the dark some type of controls the creatures used on the ship. I
scene that we call the “tent footage” was shot inside a checked, and the body had six fingers. This thing had
tent erected at the crash scene with President Truman’s impressions for six fingers,
scientific team. Okay. So now what? Santilli told me I might never
I asked him where was the footage of Truman, and he meet the cameraman. As a condition for Santilli to get
told me, “Bob, we are having a problem with the Tru- the film, he says he had to promise that the man’s name
man footage.” I asked what kind of problem. He then would never be released. He was an old guy, over 80,

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and sold the film, according to Santilli, because he man with the same last name as Steven Spielberg and
needed the money because his daughter was getting the rumors of Project X.
married. He claimed, again according to Santilli, that
the government knew he had the film, but they never Ecker: Well, surely you must have suspected some
bothered to get it. media manipulation by Santilli now that you knew
So the next day, the screening, the room fills up, and about Volker Spielberg.
Ray introduces the film. There were probably a couple Kiviat: I asked Santilli if he had mounted any type
of hundred people there. He was peppered with ques- of a publicity campaign. I mean, first the rumors about
tions that he ignored and walked out with his entou- Steven Spielberg—untrue. Then the rumors that Fox
rage. I had noticed a man, fiftyish, dressed in a suit was interested, also untrue. Santilli claimed this was
standing about 10 yards behind Santilli. I asked Ray all just an innocent circumstance. As the first meetings
who he was, and he informed me that the man was his were set up here in the U.S., Ray sent one of his people
“German investor.” with all the footage on videocassette on PAL [British
Later, I was talking to Ray’s accountant outside a pub format], not even converted to NTSC [format] that we
by Ray’s office when I see the guy introduced as Ray’s watch in America.
German investor walking down the street with a girl I set up the meetings, and Fox was the second meet-
on his arm, now in very casual clothes with an open ing. I had a PAL VCR brought in and Ray’s guy brought
shirt. He walks up to me and says, “Bob Kiviat! Nice in the film. Bob Bain and Mike Darnell were there. I
to meet you. Volker Spielberg. How are you?” Now, I popped in the tape, and I can tell Mike Darnell is ex-
didn’t even know he spoke English. Then he asked me cited by it. Bob Bain said he would be in and out, but
“Bob, are you Jewish?” he informed me that if this project was bought, Mike
I was taken aback, and said, “Well, yes, and also part Darnell would be in charge since he, Bain, would be
Italian and Russian. Why do you ask?” He said, “Bob, leaving Fox. I was surprised, but here is the first thing
there are people who might think this film is fake. But Mike would do once he talked to the president, John
you know what might be more fake? The Holocaust Matioan.
might be more fake!” I didn’t know how to respond to John Matioan had just come over to Fox from CBS.
this. In the 30 seconds that I am speaking to him, he So I told them that if John Matioan wanted to see it,
asks me if I’m Jewish, tells me the Holocaust might be we could set up another meeting. All the networks that
fake, and etcetera. All from this German investor! saw this expressed interest. NBC was interested; CBS
On the plane ride home, I thought about how to expressed interest. It had some very compelling im-
broach the Spielberg connection. Here was this Ger- ages.

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the light of day. Everybody
said okay and the meeting
broke up.
The goal was to broadcast
this film around the world
toward the end of summer.
I told Darnell that time was
of the essence here. He said
he was still waiting for a
decision from John Matio-
an. He wanted to know if
there was any more word
on authentication. I said
that we knew that a Holly-
wood office of Kodak saw
Fox came back and said they were interested but had the film. Ray brought in
some concerns. Darnell said that John Matioan would reels of film, according to Kodak; they looked at the
have to see the footage so we would have to set another beginning of the reel and did see an edge code that was
meeting. Darnell said they would have to have insur- either 1927, 1947, or 1967. So, though we knew we
ance that they could check the material. I told him that couldn’t get the cameraman, couldn’t interview him,
Santilli told us we could not meet the cameraman. So if Kodak could verify that the reel they saw was manu-
that would be a deal-breaker, we will have to know now. factured in either 1927, ’47, or ’67.
He told me he didn’t think that would break the deal. I asked if this would be the first part for my idea
Then I hear that Kodak is testing the footage. Santilli for the Supernatural Eye series, and Darnell told me,
claimed that European Kodak technicians were testing “No, we need a really big special.” He told me he just
the film. They came up with three potential dates for needed a couple more days to get everyone on board.
the film: 1927, 1947, or 1967. So I mention this briefly So Mike Darnell and John Matioan and Bob Bain said
to Darnell, and we agree to set a date. that it is fine, even without the cameraman. We had
The date is set for John Matioan to see the footage, only a “maybe” from Kodak, but that was enough to
still in Bob Bain’s office, since he hadn’t left yet. He get me started. My lawyers had to work out a deal with
was sitting on Bob Bain’s
couch with me and ev-
erybody else was there.
Ray Santilli’s sales man-
ager flew in. We play the
film. As the dissection is
going on, there is John
Matioan hiding his face in
his hands, covering up his
eyes!
I nudged him and said
“John, what do you think
about this?” He said, “Bob,
I have never been one for
science class. I just can’t
watch this. Whether it’s
real or not.” Santilli’s sales
manager then explained
where the scenes were
supposedly shot, the time
frame and the fact that
they had another autopsy
segment but it was not part
of this deal, and as a mat-
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Santilli’s company that I think he called Roswell Foot- issues, hired a staff, and got a really good news guy I
age, Ltd. The agreement was to use the footage for a knew from New York. We hired a private investigator
documentary on Fox. to go to Florida to try to track down the cameraman, if
Both John Matioan and Mike Darnell liked the idea of he existed.
calling it “Alien Autopsy: Fact or Fiction?” The ques-
tion mark at the end of “Fact or Fiction” implied that Ecker: So, all in all, you seem to have had a promis-
we would tell the truth if it wasn’t real. I asked Mike, ing show.
“What happens in my investigation if I discover it’s Kiviat: I must tell your readers right now that we did
fake?” the best we could possibly do. We were asked by Mike
“Well, Bob,” he said, “we have to have a contingency Darnell himself to not include the tent footage or debris
plan.” If we discover it’s a fake, we release the story footage in the first show. They thought that the brighter
in a heartbeat, even if it’s the middle of the week here footage was compelling, and the debris and tent foot-
in LA on Channel 11. He said we could have anchors age more confusing.
John Beard and Christine Devine do a one-hour spe- So we ran the show on August 28, 1995, and the rest,
cial. This is just around the 4th of July, with an airdate as they say, is history. We got huge ratings, and the next
of around August 28 to match the airing in Europe. We day I thought it could still be a fraud, but right then
were going to produce it in the entertainment division nobody could say for sure … and the guy at the East-
as a documentary special. If we found out it was a fake man House at Kodak was enthralled with it! Then Fox
or even real, we would go national in a heartbeat. called me up and said they wanted to do an encore air-
I looked at the calendar; we only had 6 weeks to ing the following week and add some more footage to
make the show, and we started working on the show it. Not the tent footage, nor the debris stuff, but more of
July 11. My own company took on the pre-production the gory footage of the autopsy. UFO

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NATIONAL SECURITY STATE UNVEILED:
Q&A With Richard Dolan By Sean Casteel and John Weigle

UFO Magazine Contributing Editor Sean Casteel re- it fascist or is it something else? It’s hard for me to say.
cently sat down, accompanied by Ventura, California But I think that we’ve developed a new form of govern-
newspaper copy editor John Weigle, Casteel’s faith- ment over an extended period of time. America started
ful companion at many a UFO conference, to speak to out as this wonderful republic, and I think through
researcher and author Richard Dolan. Dolan is the au- a series of wars, most importantly World War II, that
thor of UFOs and the National Security State (2002), republic went through various transformations which
and though a relative newcomer to the UFO field, has involved the creation of an increasingly autonomous
made a significant mark by compiling a huge amount military complex—again, something that I like to call
of historical data on how the phenomenon has affected the national security state.
our culture. There’s a quote that I’m fond of by Machiavelli. Es-
The interview was conducted at the National UFO sentially, he says: If you want to have a revolution from
Conference, held at the Renaissance Hotel in Holly- above, then what you really need to do is make sure
wood, California. Dolan was one of the featured speak- you retain a semblance to the old forms of government,
ers. His book was the starting point for a wide-ranging because that’s all people notice. You can have tremen-
discussion of UFOs, politics, and conspiracy theory. dous changes going on underneath, but if you keep the
Along with his dark ruminations on the emergence outer clothing as it is, then you’ll be fine. I would add,
of a totalitarian form of government, born after World though, that at a certain point those changes become
War II and nursed along by nearly 60 years of UFO so profound that it’s probably impossible to hide the
secrecy, Dolan offers moments of hope, even humor, new form of government. It is my belief that, especially
with his stand in opposition to what he views as the since 9/11/2001, we’re witnessing the unveiling of this
withering of America’s freedoms on a vine of warfare new state.
and deception.
Casteel: So this national security state you’re talking
Casteel: Please explain the title of your book, UFOs
about—is it a response to UFOs, or is it evolving along
and the National Security State. Is it your intention to
with a response to UFOs?
say what our current form of government is evolving
Dolan: I think it evolves along with the UFO phenom-
into?
enon. I think it would be overstating the case that the
Dolan: I chose National Security State as the subtitle
reality of UFOs and of that secrecy is solely responsible
of my book because it’s my own opinion that the UFO
for creating a kind of runaway military government.
phenomenon has interacted with the American mili-
But I do think that it’s certainly contributed to it.
tary and intelligence community for a long time now.
Let’s say Roswell happened, as many think it did,
And the community has itself helped the government
which was the retrieval of a nonhuman type of technol-
to undergo a major change. I guess the best way to put it
ogy that was very advanced. So what would happen?
is that this interaction, over 50-plus years, has resulted
You would theoretically give it to a group of ultra-reli-
in so much secrecy and so much unaccounted-for activ-
able scientists with top-level security clearances and
ity that we have essentially a government that’s a state
you’d say, “Well, figure this out.” And after a certain
within a state. And I call it a national security state.
period of time, maybe some scientist came up with a
Casteel: Are you talking about something like bright idea and said, “Oh, here’s what we can invent
right-wing fascism? Is that one label you’d put on the on the basis of this.” And you have this culture, then,
national security state? of unaccountable secrecy that develops after years and
Dolan: I suppose. I look at our government as a form generations. The secrecy is so pronounced now that it
of authoritarianism. And how you can distinguish—is seems to be very hard to get away from that.

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I think the UFO phenomenon has contributed tremen- Weigle: Is it a conscious agenda for the president, or
dously to this, but it’s hard to know exactly, because in is it just the influence of these people because they’re
figuring this problem out, I feel like we’re this little kid the ones who see the president for various reasons?
pressing our nose against the darkened window with They have the money, so they have the access. Who-
the curtains almost totally drawn, and all you can see ever the president is at the time—does he consciously
is a little bit of activity going on and surmise what you know he’s working for this group?
can. So how big is the UFO phenomenon within the Dolan: I don’t know. I would think that a president
classified world? Well, I suspect it’s quite big. would be able figure it out. He would understand
that there are forces more powerful than himself who
Casteel: But it’s not the sole motivation?
are behind certain things. There’s been no president
Dolan: I don’t think it is, no.
who has written down in any memoirs, who has said,
Casteel: What other motivations are there? What “There’s this working group, see, and I have to answer
would lead our supposedly straight politicians to to them.” So all one can do is speculate.
begin this sort of downward spiral?
Casteel: Colin Bennett of England has a similar
Dolan: I think power and money. Power, power, power.
theory about how all this is starting to fuse together.
It’s no different from Rome. You have the development
He doesn’t call it the national security state; he calls
of an empire—and an inability for the traditional form
it the entertainment state, like being fascistically op-
of government to run that empire—because it’s not de-
pressed by the television, the music, the media.
signed to run an empire. And America has succeeded so
Dolan: I agree with that. The “entertainment state” is
greatly because of its wealth and power that now it’s at a
a phrase I kind of like. But of course they’re not unre-
point where, when you have to manage an international
lated concepts, clearly. You turn on your TV and that’s
empire, there is no way that you can maintain an adher-
the most mind-numbing, brain-sucking entity that’s
ence to your traditional republican heritage.
out there. I tell people: Don’t watch TV. Don’t watch
Casteel: So it’s a matter of expediency, to better TV news, especially. The TV shows are absolutely a
manage our empire? The more politically corrupt and cancer to your brain.
totalitarian we become?
Casteel: Do you think there are subliminal messages
Dolan: Yes, absolutely. If you want to manage an in-
being transmitted? Or even overt messages?
ternational empire, you can only do it by coercion.
Dolan: I think there’s a tremendous amount of propa-
And that’s a corrupting process. So, back to the UFO
ganda going through mainstream media. We know that
connection. I think that the UFO secrecy is a contribu-
there has historically been close collaboration between
tor to the political problems we have today. I wouldn’t
top-level media people and government people and fi-
say that it’s the only contributor, though.
nance people. They all live in the same world. And it’s
Casteel: What about the people who say that our a lot easier to control the media, by the way, if there
government and other world governments are conspir- are only five major media corporations as opposed to a
ing directly with the alien UFO occupants? hundred. And so the continued consolidation of media
Dolan: That’s hard for me to say. I always try to dis- ownership only helps those who rule and makes it a lot
tinguish between what I know and what I don’t know. easier to get your message out. So is there intent on the
I know that there is unexplained technology travers- part of the media to kind of dumb people down and
ing our skies and oceans—I know that. I know that ele- make them servants of the state? I think, at times, that
ments of our military are extremely interested in that. there is, yes.
I don’t know about the allegations of collusion on an
Casteel: Okay, suppose that nobody’s able to throw
international scale. I believe, though, that—let’s call it
any kind of monkey wrench into this at all. Suppose
at a transnational level—I think even beyond govern-
they succeed in their aims. What would that be like
ment, frankly, that there are very powerful individuals
for the average person out there?
or interest groups who probably coordinate this. Look,
Dolan: It’s a terrifying thought, because basically nor-
I don’t believe, and I don’t think most people believe,
mal citizens will be at the mercy of these elites. What
that the U.S. president is the actual person who makes
does the future have planned for us? Embedded mi-
all the decisions regarding American national security.
crochips in the population where you’re constantly
I think most people understand that any president or
tracked?
any high elected official works for others who are prob-
ably even more powerful and influential—the people Casteel: So you were about to elaborate more on the
who put him into power. So I think that happens inter- corrupt leadership.
nationally. Highly monied interests are most likely those Dolan: Some people are incredulous, thinking, why
people who have access to this knowledge, as well. would this elite want any more than what they have?

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How could Bill Gates want more than he’s already got? of its own weight? Surely it’s not going to endure
Let me answer that first, because it’s important. How forever?
could someone be that greedy? That’s really the basic Dolan: No. Rather than ask what happens if they suc-
question. And I just keep thinking back. Pretend that ceed—I think that they have succeeded. And I think
you’re an Egyptian farmer from 5,000 years ago, and that their program has been very successful, and I think
you’ve got your nice little mud hut and you work the it’s an ongoing kind of thing. It’s an ongoing tweaking.
Nile and you’ve got a good family. And then there’s the Is it fascism if no one recognizes it as such? I was at
Pharaoh, who’s got this palace, and he’s got literally the park a couple of weeks ago with my kids, watching
rooms filled with gold, and all of these great things. them play, and everyone was having a great time. They
And why would Pharaoh want more? had no sense of oppression. There are adults like this,
Well, one reason Pharaoh might want more is because who have no sense of oppression. Does that mean that
Pharaoh entertains foreign dignitaries from Babylon we’re not in an authoritarian society? I think we are,
and other places, and he’s got to impress them with his and people aren’t necessarily going to have that fact
might. And I believe that the same principle applies announced to them.
to the elites of our society—that they want the money, Some of us, like Americans in this society right now,
they want the power. It’s an endless quest for power, are along for a pretty good ride even if we’re not in the
because power is the drug that they’re addicted to. And elite, just because we’re in a country where we have all
the money is the means to achieving that power, so it’s these things. What can bring it down? A lot of things.
an endless quest. At least, a lot of things can bring much of our infra-
No amount is too much for these people. And so structure down. I look at energy-supply interruptions
the continual plundering of people, the plundering as a real possibility; certainly war is a possibility.
of resources—I think that’s what these people are all Figuring all of this out and then working the UFO
about. part into the equation is very tricky for me. But here’s
what I can say: I believe that there are elites who have
Casteel: So George W. Bush is only in it for the
access to this very, very advanced technology. That
money?
doesn’t mean that they’re all flying off-planet in black
Dolan: Why do people run for the presidency? I don’t
triangles to the moon, but it might mean that when
know. It’s a big hassle of a job. Ego? I’m sure there’s
there is a secret breakthrough in understanding a new
always tremendous ego. But maybe it’s part of the fam-
aspect of that technology, those people are the ground-
ily business. You know, the Kennedys always have a
floor investors. That’s just a theory. I mean, there’s a lot
political branch in the government; the Bushes have
of incentive. If you’ve got this technology, what’s your
their political people in there.
motivation for sharing it with the rest of the world, as
Think of the world as a room of a hundred people.
long as you can parcel it out while making the maxi-
And if the total amount of money in that world is $100,
mum amount of money from it?
then if this were a perfect communist state, everyone
would have a dollar and we’d all be holding hands. But
of course in our world, one of those people probably Weigle: If we have that technology, why aren’t we
owns close to 40 of those dollars, and then the next 19 using it more obviously in wars, for instance?
wealthiest people own another 40, 45 of those dollars. Dolan: There are people who have argued that the
And then the remaining 80 people share $15. U.S. has used black-matte triangular aircraft in the
That’s our room, that’s our world today. And so that Gulf War—the TR3 Black Manta, which according to
room has a political system. It’s got a legal system; it’s rumor is a reconnaissance platform that accompanied
got all these things that make it go. Clearly, the guy the F-117 Nighthawk, the Stealth Fighter. This is the
with the $40, whom we can call the owner class of the argument.
society, is going to have people in the right positions I can’t confirm that, but I know this is what some
in society running things his way. And any society, any aerospace people believe. So in fact, maybe we have
system, whether it’s the United States today or the So- been using it. But when you think about the abysmal
viet Union of 30 years ago, or Nazi Germany, they all quality of reportage in the Gulf War and how these re-
exist as a stratified structure of power. And there are porters were herded like cattle by the military—there
always going to be people who seek to manipulate that was almost no independent reporting during that war.
structure. And what about now? What independent reporting in
the Iraq War are Americans getting? Basically none.
Casteel: Again hypothetically, assuming that they So it could well be that weapons are being used that
succeed in their aims and achieve exactly what they are much more sophisticated than we suspect. But we
want in terms of totalitarianism, what’s going to hap- just don’t know. We can’t assume that our news media
pen eventually to that system? Is it going to collapse is able or willing to give us accurate information on

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the status of our The book primarily seems to concentrate on UFOs and
military. If they their effect on the national security state. You seem to
do have these hy- have broadened out now into some other things.
per-advanced ob- Dolan: Well, you have to remember that I backed into
jects that can stop UFOs through the study of history and politics to begin
on a dime and with, and I have a lifelong interest in philosophy and
instantly acceler- literature. So I’ve always had very broad historical in-
ate, if they can terests. I feel that when I wrote my book I approached
duplicate UFO it in a fairly broad way, even then. I felt that there really
technology, there weren’t too many other UFO writers who were trying
doesn’t seem to to write about this as though it were part of mainstream
be evidence that history. So I felt that I had a very broad approach to
they’ve used it. begin with. In fact, that’s always an important aspect
That’s true. Why of my writing that I’ve tried to cultivate.
would they be But I would say that my attitudes have evolved a
holding it back? I little bit since I started that book. As depressing as the
don’t know. One theme was to write when I was working on volume
Richard Dolan argument that I’ve one, it’s worse now. Maybe the events of September 11,
been given by an 2001 are really the things that have catalyzed it, and
alleged insider is that they do use it, but they use it to then watching all the destructive changes going on in
go off-world, to bases somewhere else. American society.
I’m not presenting this as something that is factually Maybe that’s caused it, but a few people have re-
true. Part of the problem with this topic is you have a marked to me that they’re getting a little concerned
huge jigsaw puzzle with five thousand pieces. Some about the status of my emotional temperament. Some-
jerk has taken out three thousand of those pieces, and times I get a little too distraught or angry over things.
then they put some fake pieces in. You’re trying to put Bitter. I don’t really know if that’s true—I actually have
this together and meanwhile someone is screaming a nice, happy family life, and I have a lot of fun in my
over your shoulder, “You’re doing it all wrong!” That’s life. But when I look at the state of the world, yeah, I
the situation we’re in. So you have to put the puzzle to- just feel it’s crazier every year I look at it.
gether as best you can and ask, What does this picture
Casteel: You were talking about [Truman Defense
look like? And fill in the blanks where you have to.
Secretary] James V. Forrestal’s suicide during your
Casteel: So you were saying earlier that the machin- lecture. You wonder what he knew that drove him to
ery is already in place. It’s simply a matter of getting that, if he had some kind of vision of how the country
it more firmly entrenched. was going to change.
Dolan: Yes, absolutely. Huey Long, the governor of Dolan: I believe Forrestal was murdered, and I didn’t
Louisiana in the 1930s said, “If fascism ever comes really get into the details as to why in my lecture, but
here, it will be wrapped in an American flag.” Okay, so the book lays it out. There are a couple of things that
I think the machinery is in place. I think the machinery are very odd. First of all, Forrestal really lost his grip
is hard at work. We’re not at the end product, but we’re on reality throughout a lot of 1948. There are conven-
moving right along. If Patriot Act II gets passed, we’re tional reasons you can ascribe to that. He had a real
going to be moving very far along. problem administratively managing the Joint Chiefs of
Staff and trying to help Truman balance the budget,
Casteel: Do you have any ideas about a timetable for
which was an impossible task.
that?
So there was a lot of stress, unrelated to UFOs. On the
Dolan: Well, no. I don’t have that gift. I think that real-
other hand, the UFO problem was there. It was a big
ly bad things can happen certainly within 5 years. We’re
problem. Forrestal was involved in dealing with this
at a position now where most people in this country are
problem. He had to be, as Secretary of Defense. And
able, no matter how depressing things may seem, to go
the man was losing his grip. There are many multiple
through their ordinary lives and raise their kids and do
connections to him and the MJ-12 group with Van-
their thing. But I think it’s entirely possible that even in
nevar Bush and President Truman. I think that that’s
as little as 5 years, our social, political, and economic
probably true, that such a group existed and that he
situation could be totally different. I hope not.
was in it.
Weigle: I read the first edition of your book some So then you have to wonder. Truman fires him, re-
time ago; have your views progressed and changed? ally because of political disloyalty by Forrestal. And

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then what? What happens is that during his farewell tion of American rights. It has not been passed. It’s a
speech, in March of 1949, Stuart Symington [Secretary bill. And you can read the bill at a variety of websites,
of the Air Force from 1947 to 1950], his most vehement including the dreaded ACLU, which has the complete
political enemy, meets with him privately in the limo Patriot Act II bill on their website. One of the provi-
ride back to Forrestal’s office. When Forrestal emerged sions of Patriot Act II that has gotten a lot of people’s
from this limo, he was absolutely shaken, and was not attention is the provision stating that if you are deemed
seen until someone came into his office. He was sitting to be supporting a terrorist organization—and what is
at the desk in his office, ramrod straight, staring at a support and what is terrorist? But if you have been
blank wall, repeating one sentence: “You are a loyal deemed to support a terrorist organization, you are li-
fellow.” able to be stripped of your American citizenship, even
I mean, he had lost it. So then he was taken to Flor- if you’re a native-born American citizen.
ida. The national security crowd basically had him. And therefore, once you’re stripped of citizenship,
And then within days, they took him to Bethesda in anything can happen to you. You can be held in indefi-
Maryland, the naval hospital, which is where he died nite detention or deported. And, as others have pointed
six weeks later by falling out of a tall window. out, that could certainly include countries where they
I think he was murdered. The guard on shift when practice torture. So it’s a pretty bad thing. Patriot Act
Forrestal died was a new guy, a new guard that For- II is a step beyond even the draconian measures of Pa-
restal had never seen. Some coincidence. An hour and triot Act I, which allows the government to spy on you
a half into this guy’s shift, the first time, Forrestal goes without you knowing about it. They don’t need a court
out. We only have that guard’s testimony as to what warrant to tap your phone or to enter your house and
happened. The guard said, “At 1:30, I checked in on take things and to analyze things. They do not need
the Secretary and he was up writing something and he court orders for that.
didn’t want to take a sedative. … I left to go check with It’s very likely that they were doing this all along,
another doctor and when we returned, the Secretary but it was not technically legal. Now that it’s legal and
was gone.” Well, Forrestal was in his fifties. His health above board, you can expect that they’ll employ it even
wasn’t the greatest. He wasn’t a physically strong man. more than they used to. But Patriot Act II is a thing that
How’s he going to compete with a mid-20s Marine/ really scares a lot of people. It just seems to be so anti-
Navy corpsman? Clearly, it’s suspicious. And yet, this American that it would effectively be the end of the
is 14 years before the Kennedy assassination, and so no Bill of Rights as we know it.
one was going to question it.
Casteel: Where does the UFO community fit in that
Casteel: I always get the feeling that something ut- overall picture?
terly humiliating, something devastatingly humiliat- Dolan: Well, the UFO community has political beliefs
ing, was said to him in the limo ride that could have that span the entire conventional spectrum. There are UFO
been related to the way the aliens presented them- researchers who are very politically conservative, in the
selves to the government. There could be some kind of fact that they support the current policies, say, of George
knowledge there that simply drove some people over Bush. And you have UFO researchers who are very, very
the edge. left wing in their
Dolan: That could be. And perhaps Symington was outlook, who are
issuing some kind of not-so-veiled threat like, “You internationalists or
talk and you’re done for, so be a loyal fellow.” Some- even socialists and
thing like that. so on. And you get
a whole bunch of
Weigle: When do you think your second book will be
people in between.
ready?
I myself am really
Dolan: I am working on volume two. I’m spending all
neither.
the time that I’m able to spend working on it. Actually,
I increasingly
I’m at the point right now where I have more research
tell people I’m a
done for volume two than I did when I started writing
libertarian. I don’t
volume one. So I have a lot, but I’m not done. Volume
know if that’s ex-
two probably won’t be done for about a year and a half,
actly right either,
realistically.
but I’m not a so-
Casteel: You were about to talk about Patriot Act II cialist and I’m not
at some point. Give us your feelings on that. a conservative.
Dolan: Patriot Act II is nothing short of an abomina- What’s a conser- Sean Casteel

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vative? Bush is not a should be careful where I go here. But certainly I’m not
conservative. I grew the first to say it.
up with a conservative
Casteel: Is there any way that opposing believers,
father and household.
such as you, people who understand what’s going
The conservatism I
on and are willing to stand against it, can affect this
grew up with told me
thing? Or is it an inevitable tightening of the vise?
that you should not
Dolan: I have a faith in the value of truth. I really do.
trust big, centralized
I know that sounds idealistic and silly, but often it’s the
government. This is
only thing that I have to hold on to that keeps me going
a president who is in
and doing this. I believe in this thing called truth, and
love with the state. He
I believe that it has a value of its own, independent
is in love with a bloat-
of anything else. So it is worthy of my efforts, and it’s
John Weigle ed, obese state that gets
worthy of everyone’s efforts. We have to realize that
in your face that picks
no matter how bad things look, we can’t predict the
your pocket and gets in your bedroom. So that’s not
outcome of things.
conservatism. The UFO research community, in terms
of their politics, is all over the map. Casteel: You allow for the possibility of positive change?
Dolan: I do. I think that if you don’t work toward pos-
Casteel: Will the UFO community ever be judged, itive change, it will never happen. If you work toward
en masse, as a terrorist group? Are we a threat to this positive change, you have a shot. So people have to
emerging totalitarian system? become aware of the need to dedicate themselves to
Dolan: Well, the fact is we are a threat. Of course truth. You and I are sitting here in Hollywood, which
we’re a threat. We’re some of the only people who are is the entertainment capital, the fantasy capital, of the
really willing to peek under this rug and see all the world, but illusion is one thing and truth and reality
dirt and stuff that is there. UFO researchers are some are another. And people have to learn to distinguish
of the most astute political analysts that we have in them from each other.
this country. They actually understand the nature of
Casteel: But it’s possible that enough people could
the black world better than a number of Washington
see into the situation and react against it?
insiders do. So are we a threat in reality? The answer is
Dolan: It could happen. If you have a big sledgeham-
yes. So should UFO researchers fear the implications
mer and you keep hammering away, something can
of, say, Patriot Act II? Yeah.
happen, and there can always be a catalyst. When I was
Weigle: There’s no doubt that CSI [Civilian Saucer writing my book, I had this idealistic hope that maybe
Intelligence of Los Angeles] and APRO [The Aerial my book could be such a catalyst. I thought if I could
Phenomenon Research Organization] were being simply lay out the argument for the reality of UFOs and
watched carefully, and NICAP [National Investiga- the UFO cover-up, as clearly as I could, that that might
tions Committee on Aerial Phenomena] perhaps was be able to help crack this open.
infiltrated, although that’s disputed still. Well, my book has generated a lot of positive feed-
Dolan: Well, I think NICAP was infiltrated. Certainly back, but it certainly hasn’t had that kind of effect yet.
it’s indisputable that APRO and CSI—and this is back But you never know. You’ve got to keep trying. I’m do-
in the 1950s—were being monitored by government ing what I can do, and other people are doing what
agents. And this is clearly a direct result of the Robert- they can do. As long as we keep communicating with
son Panel guidelines and recommendations. The fact each other, and keep working at this the best we can,
is that NICAP, from its early inception, had high-level we have a shot.
members of the CIA’s psychological warfare staff on I think it’s important for the people reading this inter-
board from the get-go. view to come away from it with a renewed sense that
The fact is that Keyhoe was ousted by such mem- they need to be committed to learning everything that
bers, and after Keyhoe was ousted, they were run by they can about the state of this society that we’re in
one ex-CIA guy after another. If that’s not proof, then right now, because it’s necessary more now than ever
fine. Check your brain at the door and just say, “I don’t to defend the cause of freedom. If this is something that
know.” But I think it looks pretty clear that NICAP you actually believe in, rather than just a convenient
was absolutely managed by the CIA. And they’re not cliché to toss around every now and then, then it’s im-
the only organizations. There are all kinds of people perative to realize that you need to step outside what’s
who’ve said the same things about CUFOS [the J. Allen called the mainstream and recognize it for what it is,
Hynek Center For UFO Studies], MUFON [the Mutual which is an illusory structure of beliefs that are there
UFO Network] and the rest. Those are allegations. I to keep you in your place. UFO

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Mission to Tokyo • continued from page 26 photo lens, or both. And while snacks and cold bottles
and Italian dishes to round it out. It was toward the end of green tea were in abundance, OUR-J’s members and
of this sumptuous meal that the earthquake hit. I hadn’t friends carefully observed the skies above Tokyo with a
been drinking much but felt that maybe I had been when single-mindedness I was unused to.
I looked up to see the large chandelier overhead swaying. The gathering broke up late that afternoon. I should add
It was actually the building that was swaying, and the here that for those who may scoff at the idea of a sky-
chandelier was just going along for the ride. Being an Eastwatch being held in full daylight in the center of one of
Coaster, earthquakes and tremors are not a normal part the world’s largest cities, you should know that members
have regularly observed and photo-
graphed truly anomalous objects in
the skies above, a good proportion of
which have been disc-shaped. While
none were seen that afternoon, I was
impressed with both the group’s dis-
cipline and attitude.
That evening Jun, Yuko, Toshie,
Sumire, and Ko visited OUR-J’s of-
fice in the quiet Yushima District
of old Tokyo. Here we where joined
by Yasuo Kuwabara, who is perhaps
Japan’s leading scholar and transla-
tor of classic U.S. UFO documents.
Photo courtesy Kunihiko Osawa.

A tall, quiet and modest man, Mr.


Kuwabara is responsible for translat-
ing into Japanese much of the Con-
don Committee’s Scientific Study of
UFOs and the Ninetieth Congress’s
Symposium on UFO Hearings,
among other Project Bluebook-era
Junichi Kato, director of the Organization for UFO Research, and Peter
Robbins, author and lecturer. papers that are now available to the
Japanese public in published edi-
of my routine. With glasses and crockery now rattling tions. Yasuo Kuwabara’s efforts, like those of Jun Kato,
away on the tables, I steadied myself and looked around should serve to remind us that dedicated individuals can
to judge the ferocity of the quake by the expressions on indeed make a difference in our field.
my colleagues’ faces. My final day and a half in Tokyo was dedicated to
“No big deal” they seemed to say in unison. It was then unabashed tourism and spending as much time as pos-
that a new friend touched my right arm and said with a sible with my new friends. Highlights included a visit to
demure smile, and in perfect English, “Welcome to Ja- Asakusa Kannon, an absolutely beautiful Sensojj Temple
pan!” It was, however, a big deal at the epicenter 250 in the old part of Tokyo, and a final dinner with my trans-
miles away, where the quake registered 6.8 on the Richter lator and the Kato family. Jun and Toshie saw me back to
Scale, killing dozens and injuring thousands. The things Narita Airport the next afternoon and it was not easy to
we take for granted … say good bye to these esteemed colleagues. I look forward
Following the banquet, fifteen or twenty of us visit- to building on these friendships and to another visit to
ed a Japanese beer hall, an institution they’d borrowed this most fascinating country.
from the Germans—complete with pitchers and steins of For any of you interested in making contact with OUR-
beer, trays of sausages, and mounds of fresh sauerkraut. J, you can do so by writing to them at: The Organization
Really! There we talked and laughed into the night and of UFO Research Japan; #201, 2-7-10, Yusima, Bunkyo-
conducted a more informal question-and-answer session ku; Tokyo, 113-0034, Japan. Building links with our col-
than the conference’s formality had afforded. leagues in Japan as well as in other countries benefits us
The next day, Sunday, we visited the beautiful Meji all and our search for the truth. Sayonara until next time,
Jingu Shrine in Tokyo’s equivalent of Central Park, then readers. UFO
joined about thirty or so OUR-J members for an afternoon
skywatch held in a huge meadow nearby. Over the years, Interview excerpts are from the article, “Close En-
most of the skywatches I’d attended in the U.S. and the counters,” which appeared in the Japanese magazine
U.K. were held at night, and while focused on observing Metropolis, issue No. 501, October, 2004.
the sky, also served a social function.
Peter Robbins is the author of Left at East Gate, A
This one was pretty much all business. Every member First-Hand Account of the Bentwaters-Woodbridge
seemed to possess either binoculars or camera with a tele- UFO Incident, Its Cover-Up, and Investigation (1997).

UFO February • March 2005 67


Conferences Coming Up Connecting the Dots • continued from page 71
• continued from page 29 • scribe target sites and activities. One even claims having
viewed Mars, both in the past and in the future. The basis
eastern boundary of the base alongside Groom Lake Rd.
for these claims, apparently, is that the CIA funded it for a
and will be headed by Joerg Arnu, webmaster of Area
decade; therefore it must have some validity.
51—Dreamland Resort. More information can be found at
While there are paranormal aspects to UFOs, that
www.dreamlandresort.com.
doesn’t mean that all paranormal phenomena are within
the scope of a UFO book. It is tough enough to get main-
June 4-5 stream scientists to investigate UFO cases and to persuade
The Seattle Museum of The Mysteries presents the 2005 the government to disclose what they know without com-
UFO/Paranormal Conference/Sasquatch Symposium June 4– plicating the issue with unrelated claims. In the 1950s,
5, 2005. Seattle Center presents a symposium on Northwest certain groups called this ability astral projection. I guess
UFO History, Sasquatch evidence, and the paranormal. a name change and tying it to UFOs is a better market-
The focus of the event will be Northwest research and ing ploy! UFO Magazine’s examination of remote viewing
electronic technology. Speakers include Lloyd Pye, Bill claims in the Vol. 11, No. 3, 1996 article “Room With An
Beaty, Nick Begich, Budd Hopkins, Chris Murphy, and (Alien) View” came up with little merit. I’ve seen nothing
Matt Crowley. to support it since then.
Registration: $12.00 per speaker, $10 for members, $50 Unbiased investigators have looked at remote-viewing
a day, ($40 for members), $30 for the buffet. Pre-registra- tests and found no control groups, no double-blind stud-
tion highly recommended. Contact Seattle Museum of the ies, and ambiguous results. Still, remote viewers are push-
Mysteries (206) 328-6499, or visit our website at www. ing their courses, books, and websites. Don’t expect any
seattlechatclub.org negative results from them. The CIA only funded remote
viewing because the Soviet Union was doing paranormal
June 10-12 work, but eventually stopped, they claim, because the re-
Join us June 10, 11, 12, 2005 for the Dolphin and ET sults were unreliable. Ms. Harris states that she tried to
Civilizations Conference, a journey into higher conscious- publish remote-viewing articles in Italy but the publishers
ness and advanced Galactic wisdom on the Big Island of told her it wasn’t science. Including remote viewing in a
Hawaii. Cost: $295. UFO book does not help connect the dots or contribute to
This exciting Conference is a first! Be one of the pio- the disclosure process.
neers attending this special gathering of galactic voyagers While most reviews of Connecting The Dots have been
and visionaries. Speakers include: favorable, one complaint on the Internet is that the book
Stanton Friedman, M.S. • Nuclear Physicist/ET presents well-worn claims already known to UFO readers.
Researcher Actually, there’s quite a bit of new information in the book
Dr. Courtney Brown • ET Remote Viewer that I haven’t seen elsewhere. To my knowledge, the inter-
Dr. Richard Boylan • Star Kids Project view with Colonel Corso has not been in print or on the
Linda Moulton Howe, M.A. • Earth Mysteries Internet before. Also, low-profile astronaut Clark McClel-
Researcher land comes forward to talk about NASA UFO incidents.
Michael Horn • Pleiadian Spokesperson for Billy Meier Interviewed in 2003, crop-circle researcher Eltjo Hasel-
Dr. Richard Sauder • Underwater/Underground Bases hoff has a lot to add to recent dialogue about crop circles.
Researcher I haven’t seen either McClelland or Haselhoff in any of
Dr. Michael Salla • Exopolitics the UFO or crop-circle documentaries, so their revelations
Patricia Pereira • Arcturian Spokesperson were new to me.
Marcia Schafer, M.B.A.•Extraterrestrial Anthropologist To sum up—there is a lot to like about this book. Instead
Elaine Thompson, U.K. •–Sound Healer & ET Telepath; of in-depth interviews, it gives us a larger number of brief
Sirius, Andromeda interviews across a wide cross-section of UFO and para-
Jean-Luc Bozzoli • Visionary Artist normal investigators. I would have preferred that other
Sheldon Nidle, M.A. • Galactic Federation Spokesperson credible UFO investigators replace the remote-viewing
Douglas Webster, MFA • Dolphinville Radio Host interviews. Yet I will be returning to this book for second
Joan Ocean, M.S. • Dolphin/Whale/Extraterrestrial and third readings of selected interviews as well as rec-
Contact ommending it to friends. It has given me new books and
Jack Kewaunee Lapseritis, M.S. • Sasquatch Researcher websites to explore in my personal quest to connect the
Communicator dots. Any book that inspires further reading and research
Darryl Anka • with BASHAR, Extraterrestrial has done its job. UFO
Alfred Webre • Space Activist, Author, Lawyer
Robert Nichol • Star Dreams Filmmaker San Diego resident James Taylor has a BA in psychol-
Website: www.etfriends.com/conference or call ogy, manages investments, and reports that he wants
to stay alive long enough to witness official contact
808-323-8000. with our ET visitors.

68 February • March 2005 UFO


The Alien Files
The Secrets of Extraterrestrial Encounters and Abductions
by Gregory Van Dyk
by Scott J. Santa Channeling represents a source of information and con-
There aren’t really any secrets divulged in this book tact with ETs not otherwise available to us. Ufologists
for veteran UFO/abduction readers, although The Alien who believe in scientifically determined physical reality
Files (Element Books, 1997) addresses the overall abduc- as the predominant reality, as opposed to any kind of
spirit-based reality, are concerned primarily with space-
tion experience very well, and with a touch of spirituality craft and metallic objects—chasing the getaway car, as
lacking in most books of its kind. The author’s main scope Budd Hopkins so aptly puts it. Channelers by contrast
seems to be an all-out disparagement of mainstream sci- provide a ready access to the occupants of the spacecraft
ence and its inability to define or even recognize anything insofar as they receive direct communications from ET
it can’t explain or control: sources—by spiritual mobile phone, as it were.
A scientific view of the world is bankrupt Really? Channeled information should
in appreciating or understanding the be taken with a huge dose of skeptical salt.
non-material, whether it is human emo- Can channeling or channeled information
tions or communications from distant
be proven or disproven? I’ll leave that to
extraterrestrial intelligences. Phenomena
which are beyond the purview of scien- the reader to figure out.
tists’ ability to explain are dumped into a The author relates various channeled
special category called paranormal. The information on the nature of UFOs and
very need to create such a category sug- alleged aliens such as the Lyrans and the
gests that science holds center stage in Vegans, and how humanity carries the ge-
determining what is normal and decid-
netic material of the original humanoid
ing what is abnormal. It is a form of in-
tellectual trickery that makes a mockery race. And they are here trying to get some
of almost everything that is human. The of it back! Then he adds a few chapters on
term paranormal also indicates the fail- spiritual dimensions and the nature of re-
ure of science by indicating that which it ality, which overall were related in simple
cannot explain. terms, with food for thought from the final
I found the book to be rather tired, in paragraph:
that the author covered the UFO/abduc-
Given our conventional view of the world
tion theme with old cases that are previously document- as a physical, tangible thing, many people are likely to
ed and fully reported in the literature. For example, he find the concept of ET entities as part spirit-beings, with
covers the well-worn Ros­well scenario, Lonnie Zamora’s different energy vibrations to ourselves, as difficult to ac-
Socorro report, Betty and Barney Hill, Betty Andreasson, cept. The problem, I suggest, lies not in the paradoxical
Travis Walton, and Billy Meier—all well-known subjects nature of these ET phenomena, but the obdurate nature
of the Western mind that only acknowledges one-dimen-
in the field—without really adding anything new or of ad-
sional reality.
ditional value.
Where the book really turns off the road is in the latter For a reader new to the subject, I would recommend
sections dealing with channeling. With respect to gather- the first half of this book as good historical introductory
ing information from ET intelligences, Van Dyk seems to material, but the second half can be bypassed. These lat-
take for granted that channeling is real without any of the ter chapters are easily recognizable to veteran and expe-
documentation that the science he disavows earlier in the rienced readers of the subject, but would, I feel, confuse
book seems to necessitate. and possibly lose any reader looking for solid and factual
Though I can agree with his attack on mainstream sci- information on either UFOs or abductions, or both.
ence’s inability and/or refusal to seriously consider the Van Dyk cannot convincingly persuade readers that he
UFO abduction experience, the context of his message has stumbled upon anything new or revelatory, unlocked
seems to imply implicit belief in channeled information any secrets, or added anything of real interest to the field
as a valid alternative: of either UFOs or abductions. UFO

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The Cash-Landrum UFO Incident
Three Texans Are Injured During an Encounter with a UFO and Military Helicopters
by John F. Schuessler
by Scott Holloway
Alien abduction has long been regarded as the most dis- which is excruciatingly precise. Physicians’ reports are
turbing aspect of UFO encounters. John Schuessler’s The quoted verbatim, repeatedly. As a result, the book drags a
Cash-Landrum UFO Incident challenges that assumption, bit before resuming its focus on the principal witnesses.
dramatically. In doing so, it throws light on a vital, but Schuessler was able to arrange a session with hypno-
tragically underexposed case. therapist Dr. Leo Sprinkle for Vickie and provides that tran-
Schuessler, a founding member of MUFON and a vet- script as well. There is also an intriguing account from UFO
eran engineer of NASA’s manned investigator Tom Adams’ publica-
space programs, relates the story tion, Stigmata, which quotes an
of Betty Cash, Vickie Landrum, alleged firsthand witness to the
and Colby Landrum, beginning incident, a helicopter pilot then
on the night of December 29, stationed at Ft. Hood, Texas.
1980, near Dayton, Texas. The author presses that theme
While driving home, the three with interviews of several ad-
were confronted by a massive, ditional witnesses to the flight
luminous, diamond-shaped craft, of the helicopters. He talks to
which hovered over the road, bat- military pilots familiar with
tering them with relentless waves twin-rotor helicopters and combs
of heat and noise. When the craft through military flight records in
finally departed, it was apparent- his attempt to verify the events of
ly trailed by at least 20 twin-ro- that day. Ultimately, though, the
tor helicopters. The three imme- book’s credibility rests on cor-
diately developed symptoms of roborative eyewitness accounts
radiation exposure, from which and the documented proof of the
only Colby, age 7 at the time, ever injuries of all three witnesses.
truly recovered. Schuessler is not There is no smoking gun. The
given to flowery prose. His narra- three lost their civil suit against
tive is sparse and efficient, as he the government when the presid-
conveys the terror of the initial ing judge refused to hear the ma-
encounter, as well as its horrific jority of the evidence, and they
consequences. There is no sense were stonewalled at every turn in
of wonder in the telling of The their quest for answers. In the end,
Cash-Landrum UFO Incident. Schuessler is left to lament the ab-
Schuessler concisely lays out sence of closure on the case and
the timeline, from Betty and Vickie’s attempts to ascer- the devastation of three innocent lives.
tain the origin of the object and the helicopters, to their Despite his frustration, it is hard to imagine a more
medical travails, to their eventual lawsuit against the gov- diligent effort, one aided by researcher Bob Pratt, among
ernment. He also details his own involvement with Betty, others. The Cash-Landrum UFO Incident may not provide
Vickie, and Colby and provides transcripts of his inter- all the answers, but it has opened the door. One can only
views with them, his consultations with their respective hope that further disclosures will keep that door from
physicians, and his efforts on the trio’s behalf to uncover closing again. UFO
a possible military connection to the helicopters.
Beginning with Chapter 16, however, the layman read- The Cash-Landrum UFO Incident is available from
er may get bogged down in all the medical terminology, the author at schuessler@mho.net

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Connecting the Dots
Making Sense of the UFO Phenomenon
by Paola Leopizzi Harris
by James Taylor
Connecting The Dots (Wild Flower Press, 2003) is a col- the Center For The Search For Extraterrestrial Intelligence
lection of 25 interviews, letters, or commentaries with (CSETI) to UFO hotspots in attempts to initiate contact
some well-known and some not-so-well-known figures with UFOs.
in the fields of UFO and paranormal phenomena. Paola He tells Harris of his involvement in preventing oil
Harris gives us a behind-the- companies and covert intelli-
scenes look at the world of gence groups from suppressing
UFO conferences and per- nascent zero-point-energy de-
sonalities, including J. Al- vices that might free us from oil
len Hynek, the late scientist dependence. As with the Howe
who coined the phase “close interview, he was interviewed
encounters of the third kind” in 1999 and so does not touch
during his years with Project on his current efforts. (Greer’s
Blue Book. Disclosure Project is covered in
Harris started with Ital- UFO Magazine, Vol. 16 No. 6
ian translations of Hynek’s and Vol. 17 No. 1)
sightings reports, became a An all-too-brief 1997 interview
member of Hynek’s Center with the late Colonel Phillip J.
For UFO Studies (CUFOS), Corso, who co-wrote The Day
and then went on to docu- After Roswell, touches on his
ment UFO-related events as a own encounter. Colonel Corso’s
photo journalist, rather than book documented his efforts as
as an investigator. head of the U.S. Army’s For-
Of special interest in Har- eign Technology Division in the
ris’ book is the interview with early 1960s to covertly transfer
Linda Moulton Howe. Except alien technology from the Ros­
for her few books, one seldom well crash to corporations. In
sees her in print. In the 1980s, this interview he discusses his
Howe made video documen- purported alien encounter near
taries investigating cattle mu- the New Mexico atomic bomb
tilations but since then has site, which was not in his book.
broadened the scope of her It had some paranormal aspects
investigations. Unfortunate- to it, so Harris said she waited to
ly, this interview was done in 1999 and doesn’t include reveal it, fearing it might have damaged Colonel Corso’s
comment on her more recent crop-circle investigations. credibility.
She does, however, delve into the high strangeness and In the book’s section titled “The Paranormal Factor,”
paranormal aspects of UFO investigation, as well as the Harris interviews at length a number of remote viewers.
prospects for disclosure. This is the second UFO book I’ve read that includes re-
Another interviewee, Dr. Steven Greer was instrumental mote viewing, the first being Jim Marrs’ Alien Agenda.
in the Disclosure Project in 2001 which brought a number For those who don’t listen to Art Bell or George Noory
of insider UFO and alien-contact witnesses to the Nation- on Coast to Coast AM or haven’t read previous issues of
al Press Club in Washington, D.C. The press conference this magazine, here’s the summary: Remote viewers claim
was transmitted on the Internet to a worldwide audience. they can “see” across vast distances and accurately de-
Prior to the Disclosure Project, Dr. Greer led groups from continued on page 68

UFO February • March 2004 71


December 2005•50 Sightings
Randomly selected from over 300 sightings

1) 12/1 5:00 A.M. Seattle, WA. 10 minutes. Strobing cyl- 13) 12/3 6:00 P.M. Sunol / Pleasanton, CA. 30 seconds.
inder heading north to south. The UFO disappeared Seven lights, big to small, moving to the center of
in clouds. a triangle, appearing out of nowhere as if uncloak-
2) 12/1 8:05 A.M. Pincher Creek, AB, Canada. 2 min- ing.
utes. The UFO was shaped like a teardrop on fire
and descended slowly until out of sight. 14) 12/3 7:45 P.M. Los Angeles, CA. 60 seconds. Huge
triangle with red lights.
3) 12/1 9:00 A.M. Dublin, OH. 1.5 hours. Egg-shaped
craft described as looking like something out of a 15) 12/3 9:00 P.M. Jamestown, NY. 1 hour. Horizontal
movie. Reportedly landed 500 yards off in a field. oval formation of white lights rippling through
clouds.
4) 12/1 11:00 P.M. Wylie, TX. 5 minutes. Pyramid-
shaped, triangular craft with pulsating light seen 16) 12/4 12:00 A.M. Leicester, UK. 25 seconds. Fiery light.
emitting red flare.
17) 12/4 8:30 P.M. South of Burlington, IN. 20 minutes.
5) 12/2 6:30 A.M. Pottsville, AR. 10 minutes. Triangular Orange flashes followed by appearance of objects.
craft with lights, quiet and slow, drifting. It was just One object that flew over witness appeared to be
hanging in the night sky,dull in color, as if it wasn’t triangular, with three red areas that looked like the
fully illuminated yet. About 1,500 feet up, it then tips of a triangle. The outer points were the bright-
slowly went north. It became fully illuminated then est, fading into black at the center. It resembled
it banked west. a piece of metal when a torch is held on one side
until it gets red hot, fading into the opposite, cooler
6) 12/2 4:30 P.M. Bowling Green, KY. 20 minutes. Dia- edge.
mond-shaped objects were quite distinct and quite
bright. The two diamond objects did not seem to be 18) 12/4 11:00 P.M. Geelong, Australia. 5 minutes. Three
moving at all, but the line object was moving very lights in triangular formation moving across the
slowly to the right. sky.

7) 12/2 5:30 P.M. West Greenwich, RI. 1 minute, 30 sec- 19) 12/4 11:00 P.M. Kansas City, MO. 3 minutes. Convoy
onds. Light started to descend, and took a triangle of objects crosses Kansas City sky.
shape. Witness counted about a dozen or more
red lights. Another witness said he also saw blue 20) 12/5 4:25 A.M. Terre Haute, IN. 5 seconds. Four
lights. lighted chevron- shaped objects silently glided
southward.
8) 12/2 7:00 P.M. Lindsborg, KS. 32 minutes. West of
Lindsborg is a military bombing range. These craft 21) 12/5 2:45 P.M. Tampa, FL. 15 minutes. Revolving
have been reported on many occasions, especially cylindrical object, with one end glowing.
when bombing practice is taking place.
22) 12/5 8:30 P.M. Orlando, FL. 7-8 seconds. A bright
9) 12/2 7:05 P.M. Memphis, TN. 30 seconds. Machine- green, fluorescent light that traveled at a very rapid
like triangle. Witness said if it were ours, it would speed leaving a trail. Changed direction rapidly
be on Memphis approach radar or be given clear- before disappearing
ance to enter.
10) 12/3 1:00 A.M. Norquay, SK, Canada. 20 minutes. 23) 12/5 9:35 P.M. Bainbridge, NY. 2 minutes. A UFO
Reported sphere. in the shape of a disk/saucer hovering above a
field, silver/gray with blinking orange/yellow lights
11) 12/3 3:00 P.M. Lexington, KY. 2 minutes. Twenty evenly spaced all the way around it. Estimated
spherical white objects spotted hovering over about eight stories above the ground.
University of Kentucky campus.
24) 12/5 10:00 P.M. Strathroy, ON, Canada. 10 minutes.
12) 12/3 5:50 P.M. Lakewood, OH. 2-3 seconds. Cigar- Slow moving diamond/triangle-shaped, low-flying,
shaped UFO along with heavy military air traffic in soundless craft with bright white lights on tips and
the area. scrolling blue and red lights.

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25) 12/5 10:20 P.M. Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan. 2 hours. A 38) 12/9 4:15 P.M. Yellowknife, NT, Canada. 8 minutes.
bright shining object that emitted multicolored Twilight sighting of bright, glowing, red, oval object
beams of light. moving in northern Canadian sky.
26) 12/6 4:00 A.M. Richmond, NSW, Australia. 10 min-
utes. Bright lights and shaking. 39) 12/9 7:45 P.M. Lindsborg to Lyons, KS. 1 hour, 15
minutes. Bright orbs appeared in the sky, bigger
27) 12/6 6:34 A.M. Harbor Beach, MI. 2 hours. Described than stars or plane lights and much brighter.
as large and blinking, having a fierce glow around it.
Something seemed to be dropping off of it. 40) 12/9 10:05 P.M. Lourinha, Portugal. 6 seconds. Tri-
angle-shaped lights disappeared in the sky.
28) 12/6 6:55 P.M. Brandford, FL. 5 minutes. Triangle with
three lights followed witnesses a quarter of a mile. 41) 12/9 10:10 P.M. Bristol, TN. Triangle. 25 seconds.
Triangular object photographed.
29) 12/7 5:45 A.M. Fort Worth, TX. 2 seconds. Gold,
cigar-shaped object seen moving away from Car- 42) 12/10 4:45 A.M. Los Angeles, CA. 5 seconds. Small
swell AFB. Object was moving very fast. light heading north got brighter then flashed and
headed south.
30) 12/7 5:18 P.M. Tucson, AZ. Cylinder. Few seconds.
Phasing cigar-shaped UFO. 43) 12/11 2:30 P.M. Monmouth Beach, NJ. 3 seconds.
12 brilliant silver orbs surge from the cloud cover.
31) 12/7 7:05 P.M. Myrtle Beach, SC. 10 seconds. White
lights, in unison, moving left to right. No change in 44) 12/11 9:50 P.M. Fort Worth, TX. 1 minute. Three
velocity, direction, or speed, much too large for a lights in form of a triangle in the sky west of Fort
normal aircraft. Worth. Two were brilliant white and one orange.
After a minute, they disappeared completely.
32) 12/7 7:55 P.M. Alexandria, LA. 10-15 seconds.
Random glowing lights appeared in the sky then 45) 12/11 9:55 P.M. Van Alstyne, TX. 15 seconds. Trian-
formed a straight line and disappeared. gular formation of lights briefly seen in the western
33) 12/8 12:00 A.M. Myrtle Beach, SC. 5 to 10 seconds. sky, then faded away.
Orange-reddish glow, chevron-shaped, moving in a
zigzag pattern. 46) 12/11 10:00 P.M. Greenville, TX. 10-20 seconds.
Triangle-shaped lights slowly faded out and disap-
34) 12/8 7:30 P.M. Surfside Beach, SC. 20 minutes. peared.
Three orange lights aligned horizontally with a
fourth light directly beneath the middle light. Lights 47) 12/12 2:00 A.M. Friendswood, TX. 45 minutes. Tri-
seemed spherical, and larger than Mars, which is angle-shaped craft.
visible. They appeared for 1-2 seconds, flashed two
or three more times. Haze seen around them. 48) 12/12 2:45 A.M. Puyallup, WA. 5 minutes. An object
seen to the south dropped several small objects
35) 12/8 11:00 P.M. Washington, DC. 4-5 seconds. Dark, that glowed and seemed to “go out” as they
hang-glider shaped object flying very low, 20 feet neared the ground., like burning embers.
above tree line. No sound at all. Moving from north
to south. 49) 12/12 10:00 A.M. Phoenix, AZ. 2 minutes. Glowing
36) 12/8 11:33 P.M. Henderson, NE. 6 seconds. Three gold sphere seen in northwest Phoenix. Object
very large, gold-colored connected lights moving hovered then moved from south to north across
east to west. west valley

37) 12/9 12:04 A.M. Chico, CA. 5 seconds. Flying 50) 12/12 10:15 P.M. College Station, TX. 5 minutes. 22
triangle with five orange lights observed as it flew orange-yellow UFOs, flying low, fast and silently
silently and slowly in an eastwardly direction over east to south over Texas A&M University. Four
city. moving randomly were followed by 18 in a line.

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View From A Brit • continued from page 15 Newsguy • continued from page 23
not conceive how it could be got into the air, could doing anything that may cause worldwide fear and
stay in the air, or be brought down out of the air.” panic. It is well accepted between the UFO and ex-
Akhurst’s response was short and to the point. “No traterrestrial experts that all the five nuclear powers
further evidence has become available concerning are in contact with the beings from other stars for
this particular sighting, so there is nothing further I quite some time.”
can add.” The case was closed. Complete stories are on the Internet at www.in-
The Ministry of Defense seemed satisfied with the diadaily.com/editorial/01-03d_1-05.asp and www.
explanation that the object was simply a helicop- indiadaily.com/editorial/01-06a-05.asp.
ter. However, West’s letters clearly demonstrate that
not only had she summarily dismissed the notion Ufologists Publish ET Ideas In Science Journal
that the object was a helicopter (“I have seen many For the first time in 25 years, a serious article on the
in my time, and I can’t imagine how I could have strong potential for ET/UFO visitation has made the
seen a helicopter from any angle which would have elite pages of a mainstream science journal. Break-
made it present such an appearance,” she stated), ing outmoded tradition, the Journal of the British
she had also given much consideration to the idea Interplanetary Society published “Inflation-Theory
that the object was some form of man-made gadget. Implications for Extraterrestrial Visitation” in their
Yet, she was equally well aware of the fact that her January issue, Vol. 58.
report seemed to fall squarely into the flying saucer Authors James Deardorff, Bernard Haisch, Bruce
category, too. And there was also the glaring obser- Maccabee, and Hal Puthoff synthesize some break-
vation on her part that the object had been flying in through theories in physics and astrophysics to ar-
total silence. gue that evidence of ETs and their probes just may
Dame Rebecca West continued to write with vigor al- be found in certain high-quality UFO reports.
most until the time of her death at the age of 90 in 1983, Of particular note is their re-examination of the
and her contribution to British literature is more than Fermi Paradox, which in general asks that if there
well recognized. It seems that nearly 40 years later, are feasibly many advanced civilizations in the uni-
however, this particularly curious aspect of her notable verse, where are they? The answer incorporates new
life will remain forever unresolved. UFO multidimensional approaches to reality and the gen-
erally held idea of an expanding universe. For more
National Archive files: AIR 2/17983. Public Record Of-
fice file: AIR 2/17984. Crown copyright exists. information on inflation theory, see www.biols.susx.
ac.uk/home/John_Gribbin/cosmo.htm
Nick Redfern lives in Dallas, TX. His most recent
book is Three Men Seeking Monsters (Paraview- Guy Malone lives in Roswell New Mexico.
Pocket, NY, March 2004). He can be contacted at www. Contact: editor@breakingufonews.com and
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21st Century News • continued from page 12 now. I don’t get into arguments with people who
truth. Joseph McMoneagle is not the only one who are very doubtful about the existence of telepathy
pointed out that only certain information at a certain and remote viewing and psychokinesis, because
level was divulged to Utts and Hyman. these phenomena cannot be easily replicated, and
And considering that Ray Hyman is a founding because we do not have a good explanation as to
member of the Committee for the Scientific Inves- how they work.
tigation for Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP), his “Now, if we could figure out a mechanism, then
skepticism is to be expected. we might be able to figure out how to improve the
Unfortunately, this brand of skepticism keeps replication of these phenomena, and then we’d have
research dollars from subsidizing parapsychological something more substantial.
research to further our knowledge. “In the 130 or “Many people who are in the parapsychological
so years of parapsychological research,” Krippner community think that I’m being too skeptical and
said, “we really have only a couple of hundred too conservative when I make statements like this
experiments that I think are substantial; ones that But I have to say I think people should be skeptical
were well done and have stood the test of time.” about everything. ... When it comes to science, I don’t
Yes, there have been successful experiments of have a 100 percent certainty about anything, and I
moving matter with the mind, “but have they been think that’s healthy. I think that skepticism keeps
replicated by skeptics? Very rarely. Have they been you open to weighing new evidence as it comes in,
replicated by other parapsychologists? Yes, but not and throwing out ideas that absolutely fail the test
in a continual sequence. of evidence completely.” UFO
“So I think that the jury is still out. From my point
of view, I think there is something there. And one nice For more information on Saybrook Graduate School:
thing about psychokinesis is we’re not dealing now 415-433-9200. www.saybrook.edu
with thoughts or feelings or emotions, the types of Becoming Psychic: Spiritual Lessons Focusing Your
things that we deal with in telepathy and clairvoyance Hidden Abilities can be ordered from New Page
experiments. We’re dealing with matter. Books: 1-800-227-3371
We’re dealing with living matter like bacteria, Mind Trek by Joseph McMoneagle (Hampton Roads,
plants, blood cells. All of these have been the subjects 1-800-766-8009).
of psychokinesis experiments. Or else we’re dealing
Penetration, by Ingo Swann: for more information, see
with moving matter, like dice that were thrown up http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com
into the air by a machine, and trying to affect their
outcome. Unleashed, by Dr. William Roll, is available from
Paraview Press.
“If we could figure out how these things work, then
they would no longer be as controversial as they are Article prepared by Laura Cortner

Vaenian Abductions • continued from page 13


As we go to press, we’ve just witnessed the worst
sibility or call it alien invasion? Will we take re- natural catastrophe in modern history, that of the
sponsibility or commit suicide because we’re so lost earthquake/tsunami demolishing the shorelines of
in translation that we mistake transcendence for South Asia—right around where much of this UFO/
apocalypse, trade inner death for outer war? mystery boom activity is located.
In essence, will we surrender to transformation or Is this a coincidence?
commit the ultimate act of substitute sacrifice? The One thing is not: as a result of the disasters, the
aliens are here, that much is a fact. By the sounds earth is now vibrating and its rate of rotation has
of things lately, they may be making little homes increased, perhaps permanently. Chaos theory won-
for themselves in mountaintops around the world, ders at the butterfly effect: that a butterfly flapping
preparing for the implications of either decision we its wings in Brazil could cause a tornado in Texas. If
make. Both involve them. there’s even a grain of truth to that kind of synergy,
Them. imagine what the newly speeding, humming earth
Us. will cause. UFO
There is no versus betwixt the two, for they are not
alien, we are not human, and they cannot meet us Jeremy Vaeni is a freelance writer/producer and the
as equals until we meet ourselves. If there’s time. Is author of I Know Why the Aliens Don’t Land! (Kyne-
gion House, 2003).
there time? That’s up to you … and you … and you
… and me, right now. Make contact: www.valiens.com

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To Not Go Where They’ve All Gone Before ...
by Don Ecker watching these shows in some way gives me hope for the
If you enjoy outer-space science fiction, then UFOs future.
would naturally be an item in your interest category. Vice- You know the old adage: “If we can think it, maybe we
versa if you like UFOs—science fiction should rate right can do it!” “Star Trek” has always taken a positive posi-
up there. The truth of the matter is somewhat different. tion on what humankind may some day accomplish.
Having a friend who has appeared in so many science fic- Travel to the stars, meeting and interacting with other
tion programs, Dwight Schultz, I discovered that it is not races in the cosmos, discovering age-old secrets of the
the case. universe. Answering similarly age-old questions like:
Schultz had a long ongoing part in the Star Trek fran- Who are we? Where did we come from? What does it all
chise, acted in Babylon 5, Stargate, the Outer Limits, etc. mean?
One could argue he is a science fiction Well, okay, it’s doubtful that
icon. And he has never made secret Star Trek can answer those ques-
that the UFO enigma is something that tions … but what if? What if we
has intrigued him for years. really do get out there some day?
Yet when I’ve asked him about oth- Just what might we discover
er actors, producers, executives, and when we do? Those are very
whether they have an interest in such worthwhile questions, and since
topics beyond their value as audience there is a program like Star Trek:
pleasers, Schultz surprised me with Enter­prise” that causes me to
his candid assessment of many in his think about such things—what
field. in hell do you mean to cancel it?
“Most of those people do not believe Are you nuts?
there is any-thing to the UFO subject,” Of course, I then think back to
he told me. And if the truth be told, my buddy Dwight Schultz, who
most (like people in every walk of life) told me a long time ago, when dis-
are glaringly unfamiliar with the hard cussing the entertainment media,
data associated with the UFO subject. it all comes down to the almighty
Having talked to lots of science fiction buck! Read: good old American
fans, I’m still very surprised that when dollar bills. If you think any pro-
UFOs are mentioned, they—at best— gram survives because it is good,
turn up their noses. Hmmm. thoughtful, filled with informa-
This topic is timely, since we at the tion, etc., the final arbitrator is
magazine recently received a plea from actually—does it sell?
a certain group fearful that the latest Star Trek incarna- ’Cause if it doesn’t, say goodbye to it. Enterprise? Who
tion, Enterprise, is on the skids and about to be canceled. knows, but as I said, I watch it. But then, my wife and I
Allow me to make an admission: I watch Enterprise faith- used to watch The Fearing Mind, a really enjoyable week-
fully. I’ve watched all the incarnations of Star Trek since ly cable series about a horror writer, and it only lasted 6
the mid ’70s, when the original Star Trek, with William weeks. We still have trouble understanding why the suits
Shatner and Leonard Nimoy, was being rerun. canceled such a unique, pleasantly highbrow, thoughtful
Back in the ’60s, when TOS (The Original Star Trek) show … hmmm?
was first aired, I never gave it a glance, and disdainfully But that’s ancient history! To save Enterprise, go to
sniffed at “any of that space-opera crap” after watching a www.saveenterprise.com
couple episodes of Lost In Space. At press time, UPN and Paramount Network Television
That was dreadful, but Trek was different. Even today, jointly announced that this will be the final season of Star
my wife kids me mercilessly when my several science fic- Trek: Enterprise on UPN. The series finale will air on Fri-
tion programs come on the tube. I tell her truthfully that day, May 13, 2005. UFO

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